Re: [NTG-context] nbsp U+00A0 don’t work
>> arthur has defined some rules (he showed me at bachotek) but afaik he >> would check it with the french users (assuming that you would say yes -) >> and afterthat i'd look into it > > Of course, it's Yes :) > The wiki seems to be a good place to put this rules, since I could ask > some true typograph to have a look at them. > > Thank's, > Olivier. Since I check them again yesterday, here is the rules for french punctuation : http://wiki.contextgarden.net/frenchpunctuation Olivier. -- [Message tapé sur un clavier Bépo : http://www.clavier-dvorak.org ] Olivier [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nemolivier.blogspot.com ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] nbsp U+00A0 don’t work
Peter Münster wrote: > On Tue, Jun 17 2008, Hans Hagen wrote: > >> can you make a test file showing the problem (not sure what it is)? > > Here a test file: > > % engine=luatex > \starttext > \hsize1pt > Hello world! > \stoptext > > Between the "Hello" and the "world" is a U+00A0. ok, i'll adapt the definitions - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] nbsp U+00A0 don’t work
On Tue, Jun 17 2008, Hans Hagen wrote: > can you make a test file showing the problem (not sure what it is)? Here a test file: % engine=luatex \starttext \hsize1pt Hello world! \stoptext Between the "Hello" and the "world" is a U+00A0. Cheers, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] nbsp U+00A0 don’t work
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Olivier Guéry wrote: > >> Speaking about french punctuation, I remember that Arthur Reutenauer >> speaks about rules he wrote for frenchpunctuation, can we make a wiki >> page with all that rules ? I'd like to ask french typograph to look at >> them. > > arthur has defined some rules (he showed me at bachotek) but afaik he > would check it with the french users (assuming that you would say yes -) > and afterthat i'd look into it Of course, it's Yes :) The wiki seems to be a good place to put this rules, since I could ask some true typograph to have a look at them. Thank's, Olivier. -- [Message tapé sur un clavier Bépo : http://www.clavier-dvorak.org ] Olivier [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nemolivier.blogspot.com ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] nbsp U+00A0 don’t work
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:04 AM, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter Münster wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 16 2008, Olivier Guéry wrote: >> >>> Context deal with the nbsp when it's the « ~ », but with the U+00A0, >>> not. >> >> This is a new bug in MKIV, I'm sure that it used to work at least >> 1 or 2 months ago. > > maybe because now it's an active character > > can you make a test file showing the problem (not sure what it is)? Here is the minimal code : \setuppapersize[A4][A4] \mainlanguage [fr] \language[fr] \setcharacterspacing [frenchpunctuation] \starttext The « ; » signs shouldn't be at the beginning of a line : \crlf toto titi toto titi toto titi toto titi toto titi toto titi toto titi toto titi toto titiii Test ; test : test ? test ! « test » with nbsp before punctuation \crlf toto titi toto titi toto titi toto titi toto titi toto titi toto titi toto titi toto titiii Test~; test~: test~? test~! «~test~» with \~\ before punctuation \crlf \stoptext I attached the source code because some mail programs (and firefox2) remove the nbsp. And a .pdf if you need it. Olivier. -- [Message tapé sur un clavier Bépo : http://www.clavier-dvorak.org ] Olivier [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nemolivier.blogspot.com test-french-punctuation.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document test-french-punctuation.tex Description: TeX document ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] nbsp U+00A0 don’t work
Peter Münster wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16 2008, Olivier Guéry wrote: > >> Context deal with the nbsp when it's the « ~ », but with the U+00A0, >> not. > > This is a new bug in MKIV, I'm sure that it used to work at least > 1 or 2 months ago. maybe because now it's an active character can you make a test file showing the problem (not sure what it is)? Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] nbsp U+00A0 don’t work
On Mon, Jun 16 2008, Olivier Guéry wrote: > Context deal with the nbsp when it's the « ~ », but with the U+00A0, > not. This is a new bug in MKIV, I'm sure that it used to work at least 1 or 2 months ago. In MKII it works as expected. Cheers, Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] nbsp U+00A0 don’t work
Olivier Guéry wrote: > Speaking about french punctuation, I remember that Arthur Reutenauer > speaks about rules he wrote for frenchpunctuation, can we make a wiki > page with all that rules ? I'd like to ask french typograph to look at > them. arthur has defined some rules (he showed me at bachotek) but afaik he would check it with the french users (assuming that you would say yes -) and afterthat i'd look into it Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] nbsp U+00A0 don’t work
Hello, As you can see in my signature, I had remap my french keyboard layout according to dvorak rules. I have the nbsp (U+00A0) on Shift+Space because we use it a lot in french (all the symbols who needs it are on Shift too). I discover today that context don't seem to recognise it : I found a « ; » alone at the beginning of a line. Context deal with the nbsp when it's the « ~ », but with the U+00A0, not. The symbol is here, my vim highlight it. I tried with and without \setcharacterspacing [frenchpunctuation] with no effect. I use context --version : MtxRun | main context file: /usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/context.tex MtxRun | current version: 2008.06.11 22:25 Speaking about french punctuation, I remember that Arthur Reutenauer speaks about rules he wrote for frenchpunctuation, can we make a wiki page with all that rules ? I'd like to ask french typograph to look at them. Cheers, Olivier. PS : hard to do a minimal exemple, but I can try if you need it. -- [Message tapé sur un clavier Bépo : http://www.clavier-dvorak.org ] Olivier [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nemolivier.blogspot.com ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___