Re: [NTG-context] spanish symbols for interrogation and exclamation
I think using a definition like \question (or \pregunta if we use a spanish keyword) would be useful. ciroOn 12/26/05, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:>> >> How do I write the spanish interrogation symbol that is up-side>> down?>> >> also>> >> How do I write the spanish exclamation symbol that is also up- >> side down?>> >> thank you>>> Better in matters of logical markup would be a definition like> \quotation, say \exclamation or \question,> but I don't know if there are languages other than Spanish that need > additional signs/formatting for those...>interesting suggestion, we can use the delimited text mechanism for it(core-mis); what do the spanish users think of if?Hans___ ntg-context mailing listntg-context@ntg.nlhttp://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] spanish symbols for interrogation and exclamation
Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: >> How do I write the spanish interrogation symbol that is up-side down? >> also >> How do I write the spanish exclamation symbol that is also up- side down? >> thank you Better in matters of logical markup would be a definition like \quotation, say \exclamation or \question, but I don't know if there are languages other than Spanish that need additional signs/formatting for those... interesting suggestion, we can use the delimited text mechanism for it (core-mis); what do the spanish users think of if? Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] spanish symbols for interrogation and exclamation
On 12/24/05, Ciro Soto wrote: > I didn't understand Hans's instructions. What should I do? Try this: % this will be added into ConTeXt, so you can leave it out next time %%% \startlanguagespecifics[es] \definetextmodediscretionary ? {\prewordbreak\questiondown} \definetextmodediscretionary ! {\prewordbreak\exclamdown} \stoplanguagespecifics %%% % an example of the usage: \mainlanguage[es] \starttext |!|Feliz Navidad! \stoptext > On 12/23/05, Hans Hagen wrote: > > Mojca Miklavec wrote: > > >\enableregime[utf] % for utf-8, may be something else as well > > >(depending on editor) > > >\starttext > > >You can write \exclamdown\ or ¡ and \questiondown\ or ¿ > > >\stoptext > > > > > > > > that's not comfortable for spanish users, so ... let's hook it into > > specifics: I don't know the Spanish habits. I thought that they usually simply hit the proper symbol on their keyboards, but I agree that it's nice to have an "ascii" way to get them. > > \startlanguagespecifics[es] > > \definetextmodediscretionary ? > {\prewordbreak\questiondown} > > \definetextmodediscretionary ! > {\prewordbreak\exclamdown} > > \stoplanguagespecifics > > \mainlanguage[es] Hey Mojca, does this look better|?| |?|I didn't manage to catch the difference in line-breaking algorithm, but aren't those turned quotation marks at the beginning of the sentence? (like \exclamdown\prewordbreak, but as I said - I don't know if it makes any difference at all) > > i'll add this to the distribution So don't forget to mention it in the new manual as well ;) Mojca ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] spanish symbols for interrogation and exclamation
>> How do I write the spanish interrogation symbol that is up-side down? >> also >> How do I write the spanish exclamation symbol that is also up- side down? >> thank you Better in matters of logical markup would be a definition like \quotation, say \exclamation or \question, but I don't know if there are languages other than Spanish that need additional signs/formatting for those... Grüßlis vom Hraban! --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://contextgarden.net http://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] spanish symbols for interrogation and exclamation
I didn't understand Hans's instructions. What should I do? Mojka's solution worked fine. I used \def\qd{\questiondown} to shorten the keyword. c On 12/23/05, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mojca Miklavec wrote:>Ciro Soto wrote:Hi team: How do I write the spanish interrogation symbol that is up-side down?>> also>> How do I write the spanish exclamation symbol that is also up-side down? >> thank you>> ciro>>\enableregime[utf] % for utf-8, may be something else as well>(depending on editor)>\starttext>You can write \exclamdown\ or � and \questiondown\ or � >\stoptext>>that's not comfortable for spanish users, so ... let's hook it intospecifics:\starttext\startlanguagespecifics[fr]\definetextmodediscretionary :{\removeunwantedspaces\prewordbreak\kern\hspaceamount\empty{:}:} \definetextmodediscretionary ;{\removeunwantedspaces\prewordbreak\kern\hspaceamount\empty{;};}\definetextmodediscretionary ?{\removeunwantedspaces\prewordbreak\kern\hspaceamount\empty{?}?}\definetextmodediscretionary ! {\removeunwantedspaces\prewordbreak\kern\hspaceamount\empty{!}!}\stoplanguagespecifics% goes to enco-ffr\startlanguagespecifics[es]\definetextmodediscretionary ? {\prewordbreak\questiondown} \definetextmodediscretionary ! {\prewordbreak\exclamdown}\stoplanguagespecificsspanish|?| spanish|!|\hyphenatedword{\es spanish|?|\relax}\hyphenatedword{\es spanish|!|\relax}\hyphenatedword{spanish|?|\relax} \hyphenatedword{spanish|!|\relax}\hyphenatedword{\fr spanish|?|\relax}\hyphenatedword{\fr spanish|!|\relax}\stoptext\mainlanguage[es] Hey Mojca, does this look better|?|(the |??| is always available) i'll add this to the distributionHans___ntg-context mailing listntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] spanish symbols for interrogation and exclamation
Mojca Miklavec wrote: Ciro Soto wrote: Hi team: How do I write the spanish interrogation symbol that is up-side down? also How do I write the spanish exclamation symbol that is also up-side down? thank you ciro \enableregime[utf] % for utf-8, may be something else as well (depending on editor) \starttext You can write \exclamdown\ or � and \questiondown\ or � \stoptext that's not comfortable for spanish users, so ... let's hook it into specifics: \starttext \startlanguagespecifics[fr] \definetextmodediscretionary : {\removeunwantedspaces\prewordbreak\kern\hspaceamount\empty{:}:} \definetextmodediscretionary ; {\removeunwantedspaces\prewordbreak\kern\hspaceamount\empty{;};} \definetextmodediscretionary ? {\removeunwantedspaces\prewordbreak\kern\hspaceamount\empty{?}?} \definetextmodediscretionary ! {\removeunwantedspaces\prewordbreak\kern\hspaceamount\empty{!}!} \stoplanguagespecifics % goes to enco-ffr \startlanguagespecifics[es] \definetextmodediscretionary ? {\prewordbreak\questiondown} \definetextmodediscretionary ! {\prewordbreak\exclamdown} \stoplanguagespecifics spanish|?| spanish|!| \hyphenatedword{\es spanish|?|\relax} \hyphenatedword{\es spanish|!|\relax} \hyphenatedword{spanish|?|\relax} \hyphenatedword{spanish|!|\relax} \hyphenatedword{\fr spanish|?|\relax} \hyphenatedword{\fr spanish|!|\relax} \stoptext \mainlanguage[es] Hey Mojca, does this look better|?| (the |??| is always available) i'll add this to the distribution Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] spanish symbols for interrogation and exclamation
Ciro Soto wrote: > Hi team: > > How do I write the spanish interrogation symbol that is up-side down? > also > How do I write the spanish exclamation symbol that is also up-side down? > thank you > ciro \enableregime[utf] % for utf-8, may be something else as well (depending on editor) \starttext You can write \exclamdown\ or ¡ and \questiondown\ or ¿ \stoptext Mojca ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] spanish symbols for interrogation and exclamation
Hi team: How do I write the spanish interrogation symbol that is up-side down? also How do I write the spanish exclamation symbol that is also up-side down? thank you ciro ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context