Re: [NTG-context] Small integral signes with Palatino

2012-05-29 Thread Steve Peter

On May 27, 2012, at 7:27 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

 BTW, what is the status of Pagella Math?

 Nearly complete from what I hear.

Steve
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] Small integral signes with Palatino

2012-05-29 Thread Herbert Voss

Steve Peter schrieb:

 On May 27, 2012, at 7:27 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

 BTW, what is the status of Pagella Math?

  Nearly complete from what I hear.

it is available from CTAN:
http://CTAN.ORG/tex-archive/fonts/tex-gyre-math

Herbert


___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] Small integral signes with Palatino

2012-05-29 Thread Tim Steenvoorden
The integral sign is now big enough, but spacing between the sign and
its bounds is too large... (In the px-font.)

Cheers,
Tim


2012/5/29 Herbert Voss herbert.v...@fu-berlin.de:

 Steve Peter schrieb:

 On May 27, 2012, at 7:27 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

 BTW, what is the status of Pagella Math?

  Nearly complete from what I hear.

 it is available from CTAN:
 http://CTAN.ORG/tex-archive/fonts/tex-gyre-math

 Herbert


 ___
 If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
 Wiki!

 maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
 webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
 archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
 wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
 ___
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___

Re: [NTG-context] Small integral signes with Palatino

2012-05-29 Thread Tim Steenvoorden
The same is true for other mathfonts discussed in the thread Math
fonts in TeXLive 2012.

Cheers,
Tim


2012/5/29 Tim Steenvoorden tim.steenvoor...@gmail.com:
 The integral sign is now big enough, but spacing between the sign and
 its bounds is too large... (In the px-font.)

 Cheers,
 Tim


 2012/5/29 Herbert Voss herbert.v...@fu-berlin.de:

 Steve Peter schrieb:

 On May 27, 2012, at 7:27 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

 BTW, what is the status of Pagella Math?

  Nearly complete from what I hear.

 it is available from CTAN:
 http://CTAN.ORG/tex-archive/fonts/tex-gyre-math

 Herbert


 ___
 If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to 
 the Wiki!

 maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / 
 http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
 webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
 archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
 wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
 ___
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___

Re: [NTG-context] Small integral signes with Palatino

2012-05-28 Thread Hans Hagen

On 28-5-2012 01:27, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

On Mon, 28 May 2012, luigi scarso wrote:


Different, but still wrong

\unprotect
\starttypescript [\s!math] [palatinomath]
\definefontsynonym [PalatinoMath]
[\s!file:texgyrepagella-math-regular.otf]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [\s!math] [palatinomath] [\s!name]
\definefontsynonym [MathRoman] [PalatinoMath]
[\s!features=\s!math\mathsizesuffix]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [PalatinoTest]
\definetypeface [\typescriptone] [\s!rm] [\s!serif] [palatino]
[\s!default]
\definetypeface [\typescriptone] [\s!mm] [\s!math] [palatinomath]
[\s!default]
\quittypescriptscanning
\stoptypescript
\protect

\usetypescript[PalatinoTest]
\setupbodyfont[PalatinoTest,12pt]
\starttext
\input knuth \par
\startformula
\int_0^\infty \frac{1}{x} {\rm d} x
\stopformula
\stoptext


In this case \int and \sum are of the same size, so it appears as a
design choice, and more importantly, we can patch the font to change
DisplayOperatorMinHeight.


It's really weird ... in the virtual font builder we have

DisplayOperatorMinHeight  = t . math_operator_size. text_style

and there has been a good reason for this otherwise it would not be 
there. For the normal (12pt) size this becomes 1040448 for px as well as 
tx. Both fonts (when looking at them with \showfont[pxex.tfm] etc have 
the same shapes.


Concerning the rest of the parameters, only for this case irrelevant 
differ a bit.


% name px tx

% RadicalRuleThickness  46399   44040   2359
% FractionDenominatorDisplayStyleGapMin 139197  132120  7077
% OverbarVerticalGap139197  132120  7077
% RadicalDisplayStyleVerticalGap133103  130744  2359
% UnderbarVerticalGap   139197  132120  7077
% FractionNumeratorGapMin   46399   44040   2359
% OverbarRuleThickness  46399   44040   2359
% StackGapMin   139197  132120  7077
% RadicalVerticalGap57998.7555050   2948.75
% StackDisplayStyleGapMin   324793  308280  16513
% AccentBaseHeight  353107.968  353894.4-786.4320003
% FractionRuleThickness 46399   44040   2359
% FractionDenominatorGapMin 46399   44040   2359
% OverbarExtraAscender  46399   44040   2359
% SubSuperscriptGapMin  185596  176160  9436
% MinConnectorOverlap   11599.7511010   589.75
% FractionNumeratorDisplayStyleGapMin   139197  132120  7077
% UnderbarRuleThickness 46399   44040   2359
% RadicalExtraAscender  46399   44040   2359

So, there is no real reason for px to behave different than tx. However, 
when we nil DisplayOperatorMinHeight we get the scaled glyph. Okay, we 
could have threshold issue but even putting some real large math mess 
after itm it will not bump to the next size shape (there is only one 
larger size btw) .. puzzling



BTW, what is the status of Pagella Math? Should we default to that
instead of px-fonts?


not yet

Hans

-
  Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
  Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
 | www.pragma-pod.nl
-
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] Small integral signes with Palatino

2012-05-27 Thread Tim Steenvoorden
Still get a small integral sign in the latest beta (2012.05.26 16:40).
Times works perfectly. Am I doing something wrong here?

\definetypeface[palatino][rm][serif][palatino]
\definetypeface[palatino][mm][math][palatino]

\setupbodyfont[palatino]

\starttext

\startformula
\int_0^\infty \frac{1}{x} {\rm d} x
\stopformula

\stoptext

Cheers,
Tim


2012/5/25 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl:
 On 25-5-2012 00:43, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

 It's more complicated because tx-fonts behaves correctly.


 indeed, and I always thought that these fonts were similar in setup


 Hans

 -
                                          Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
              Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
    tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
                                             | www.pragma-pod.nl
 -
 ___
 If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to
 the Wiki!

 maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /
 http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
 webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
 archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
 wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
 ___
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___

Re: [NTG-context] Small integral signes with Palatino

2012-05-27 Thread luigi scarso
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Tim Steenvoorden
tim.steenvoor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Still get a small integral sign in the latest beta (2012.05.26 16:40).
 Times works perfectly. Am I doing something wrong here?

 \definetypeface[palatino][rm][serif][palatino]
 \definetypeface[palatino][mm][math][palatino]

 \setupbodyfont[palatino]

 \starttext

 \startformula
 \int_0^\infty \frac{1}{x} {\rm d} x
 \stopformula

 \stoptext
confirmed (again)
-- 
luigi
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] Small integral signes with Palatino

2012-05-27 Thread luigi scarso
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 5:31 PM, luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Tim Steenvoorden
 tim.steenvoor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Still get a small integral sign in the latest beta (2012.05.26 16:40).
 Times works perfectly. Am I doing something wrong here?

 \definetypeface[palatino][rm][serif][palatino]
 \definetypeface[palatino][mm][math][palatino]

 \setupbodyfont[palatino]

 \starttext

 \startformula
 \int_0^\infty \frac{1}{x} {\rm d} x
 \stopformula

 \stoptext
 confirmed (again)
Stupid question: why we are not using
texgyrepagella-math-regular.otf
?


-- 
luigi
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] Small integral signes with Palatino

2012-05-27 Thread luigi scarso
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 7:50 PM, luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 5:31 PM, luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Tim Steenvoorden
 tim.steenvoor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Still get a small integral sign in the latest beta (2012.05.26 16:40).
 Times works perfectly. Am I doing something wrong here?

 \definetypeface[palatino][rm][serif][palatino]
 \definetypeface[palatino][mm][math][palatino]

 \setupbodyfont[palatino]

 \starttext

 \startformula
 \int_0^\infty \frac{1}{x} {\rm d} x
 \stopformula

 \stoptext
 confirmed (again)
 Stupid question: why we are not using
 texgyrepagella-math-regular.otf
 ?


 --
 luigi

Different, but still wrong

\unprotect
\starttypescript [\s!math] [palatinomath]
 \definefontsynonym [PalatinoMath] [\s!file:texgyrepagella-math-regular.otf]
\stoptypescript
 \starttypescript [\s!math] [palatinomath] [\s!name]
 \definefontsynonym [MathRoman] [PalatinoMath]
[\s!features=\s!math\mathsizesuffix]
 \stoptypescript
 \starttypescript [PalatinoTest]
 \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [\s!rm] [\s!serif] [palatino] [\s!default]
 \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [\s!mm] [\s!math]  [palatinomath]
[\s!default]
 \quittypescriptscanning
 \stoptypescript
\protect

\usetypescript[PalatinoTest]
\setupbodyfont[PalatinoTest,12pt]
\starttext
\input knuth \par
\startformula
\int_0^\infty \frac{1}{x} {\rm d} x
\stopformula
\stoptext


-- 
luigi
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] Small integral signes with Palatino

2012-05-27 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Mon, 28 May 2012, luigi scarso wrote:


Different, but still wrong

\unprotect
\starttypescript [\s!math] [palatinomath]
\definefontsynonym [PalatinoMath] [\s!file:texgyrepagella-math-regular.otf]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [\s!math] [palatinomath] [\s!name]
\definefontsynonym [MathRoman] [PalatinoMath]
[\s!features=\s!math\mathsizesuffix]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [PalatinoTest]
\definetypeface [\typescriptone] [\s!rm] [\s!serif] [palatino] [\s!default]
\definetypeface [\typescriptone] [\s!mm] [\s!math]  [palatinomath]
[\s!default]
\quittypescriptscanning
\stoptypescript
\protect

\usetypescript[PalatinoTest]
\setupbodyfont[PalatinoTest,12pt]
\starttext
\input knuth \par
\startformula
\int_0^\infty \frac{1}{x} {\rm d} x
\stopformula
\stoptext


In this case \int and \sum are of the same size, so it appears as a design 
choice, and more importantly, we can patch the font to change 
DisplayOperatorMinHeight.


BTW, what is the status of Pagella Math? Should we default to that instead 
of px-fonts?


Aditya
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] Small integral signes with Palatino

2012-05-27 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 1:27 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

 BTW, what is the status of Pagella Math? Should we default to that instead
 of px-fonts?

Pagella didn't get much testing so far, it has not even been imported
into TeX Live yet and it didn't get on CTAN yet. There are some known
issues (Hans wrote some workarounds, but from what Khaled wrote
LuaLaTeX still bails out.)

I would prefer to have support for px fixed (which probably has to be
done anyway) and switch to pagella soon after TL freeze, rather then
get completely unexpected surprizes.

Mojca
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] Small integral signes with Palatino

2012-05-25 Thread Hans Hagen

On 25-5-2012 00:40, Aditya Mahajan wrote:


I tested with asana, hoping that opentype fonts will behave better, but
asana is hopelessly broken in the other direction: too big integrals and
sums. To fix asana, change

DisplayOperatorMinHeight = more,

to

DisplayOperatorMinHeight = 0,


fixed


{ name = texgyrepagella-bold.otf, vector = tex-bf, skewchar=0x7F } ,

(but even after that change $\hat {\bi A}$ is set incorrectly).


fixed

-
  Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
  Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
 | www.pragma-pod.nl
-
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] Small integral signes with Palatino

2012-05-25 Thread Hans Hagen

On 25-5-2012 00:43, Aditya Mahajan wrote:


It's more complicated because tx-fonts behaves correctly.


indeed, and I always thought that these fonts were similar in setup

Hans

-
  Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
  Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
 | www.pragma-pod.nl
-
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] Small integral signes with Palatino

2012-05-24 Thread Tim Steenvoorden
Hi all,

I'm still struggling with the same issue in 2012.05.24. Anyone?

Cheers,
Tim


2012/5/20 Tim Steenvoorden tim.steenvoor...@gmail.com:
 Dear list,

 Have some problems with the latest beta. I get small integral signs
 when using Palatino math (see minimal example in attachment). Any
 clou?

 ConTeXt version: 2012.05.18 23:50, Mac OS X 10.6.8

 Regards,
 Tim
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] Small integral signes with Palatino

2012-05-24 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Tim Steenvoorden
tim.steenvoor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 I'm still struggling with the same issue in 2012.05.24. Anyone?

 Cheers,
 Tim
Yes ---  sorry, I can only confirm your issue.
-- 
luigi
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] Small integral signes with Palatino

2012-05-24 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Thu, 24 May 2012, luigi scarso wrote:


On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Tim Steenvoorden
tim.steenvoor...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,

I'm still struggling with the same issue in 2012.05.24. Anyone?

Cheers,
Tim

Yes ---  sorry, I can only confirm your issue.


Any idea when this was introduced (or if this bug was always present)? I 
think that adding a patch to px-math.cfg to scale DisplayOperatorMinHeight 
should fix it; but I don't have the time to look into this right now.


Aditya
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] Small integral signes with Palatino

2012-05-24 Thread Tim Steenvoorden
Sorry, can't help with that. The first ConTeXt beta I tested for
TeXLive 2012 is 2012.05.14. Before that I used 2011.05.18 from TeXLive
2011.

Tim


2012/5/24 Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu:
 On Thu, 24 May 2012, luigi scarso wrote:

 On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Tim Steenvoorden
 tim.steenvoor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 I'm still struggling with the same issue in 2012.05.24. Anyone?

 Cheers,
 Tim

 Yes ---  sorry, I can only confirm your issue.


 Any idea when this was introduced (or if this bug was always present)? I
 think that adding a patch to px-math.cfg to scale DisplayOperatorMinHeight
 should fix it; but I don't have the time to look into this right now.

 Aditya

 ___
 If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to
 the Wiki!

 maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /
 http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
 webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
 archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
 wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
 ___
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___

Re: [NTG-context] Small integral signes with Palatino

2012-05-24 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

 Any idea when this was introduced (or if this bug was always present)?

beta 2011.07.14 16:09

(https://github.com/mojca/context/commit/58e91401c966ea58ff13645addf05f8f1c506c0e
or
http://gitorious.org/context/context/commit/06c7a7fdaac34512cdc3ff250dec5b1a7ab3052a/diffs/a8d0a863d99794b231e58c0e8945448c19bd6215
that's not able to display any given diff of ConTeXt releases)

Go figure. There's nothing obviously math-related in there at all.

Mojca
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] Small integral signes with Palatino

2012-05-24 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
 On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

 Any idea when this was introduced (or if this bug was always present)?

 beta 2011.07.14 16:09

Oh, I'm sorry, nonsense. That was the last working one. The one
introducing the bug was
2011.07.19 10:35

https://github.com/mojca/context/commit/a3f9fa299ecc3c9d8c3989c6e219dd9a1bcefaa1

In that version the functionality was completely broken (overlapping
limits), then it improved with time a bit, but never recovered
properly back.

Mojca
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] Small integral signes with Palatino

2012-05-24 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Fri, 25 May 2012, Mojca Miklavec wrote:


On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:


Any idea when this was introduced (or if this bug was always present)?


beta 2011.07.14 16:09


Oh, I'm sorry, nonsense. That was the last working one. The one
introducing the bug was
   2011.07.19 10:35

https://github.com/mojca/context/commit/a3f9fa299ecc3c9d8c3989c6e219dd9a1bcefaa1

In that version the functionality was completely broken (overlapping
limits), then it improved with time a bit, but never recovered
properly back.


I tested with asana, hoping that opentype fonts will behave better, but 
asana is hopelessly broken in the other direction: too big integrals and 
sums. To fix asana, change


DisplayOperatorMinHeight = more,

to

DisplayOperatorMinHeight = 0,

(or just comment it) in asana-math.lfg. After that, you can at least use 
asana math as a work around.


Euler and Stix fonts work OK, and surprisingly so is txfonts! I thought 
that px- and tx-fonts were handled identically. Why does the bug only 
appear with px-fonts?


Comparing the two files, I noticed that skewchar is not set in px fonts.
Line 22 of px-math.lfg should be:

{ name = texgyrepagella-bold.otf, vector = tex-bf, 
skewchar=0x7F } ,

(but even after that change $\hat {\bi A}$ is set incorrectly).

Aditya
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] Small integral signes with Palatino

2012-05-24 Thread Hans Hagen

On 25-5-2012 00:13, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:


Any idea when this was introduced (or if this bug was always present)?


beta 2011.07.14 16:09


Oh, I'm sorry, nonsense. That was the last working one. The one
introducing the bug was
 2011.07.19 10:35

https://github.com/mojca/context/commit/a3f9fa299ecc3c9d8c3989c6e219dd9a1bcefaa1

In that version the functionality was completely broken (overlapping
limits), then it improved with time a bit, but never recovered
properly back.


something math_operator_size and/or DisplayOPeratorMinHEight

(btw, did you stop pushing betas in that hub?)

Hans



-
  Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
  Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
 | www.pragma-pod.nl
-
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] Small integral signes with Palatino

2012-05-24 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Fri, 25 May 2012, Hans Hagen wrote:


On 25-5-2012 00:13, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:


Any idea when this was introduced (or if this bug was always present)?


beta 2011.07.14 16:09


Oh, I'm sorry, nonsense. That was the last working one. The one
introducing the bug was
 2011.07.19 10:35

https://github.com/mojca/context/commit/a3f9fa299ecc3c9d8c3989c6e219dd9a1bcefaa1

In that version the functionality was completely broken (overlapping
limits), then it improved with time a bit, but never recovered
properly back.


something math_operator_size and/or DisplayOPeratorMinHEight


It's more complicated because tx-fonts behaves correctly.

Aditya
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] Small integral signes with Palatino

2012-05-24 Thread Hans Hagen

Hi Khaled,

just checking ... did the code related to display operator heights 
change as part of the math cleanup?


Hans




On 25-5-2012 00:40, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2012, Mojca Miklavec wrote:


On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:


Any idea when this was introduced (or if this bug was always present)?


beta 2011.07.14 16:09


Oh, I'm sorry, nonsense. That was the last working one. The one
introducing the bug was
2011.07.19 10:35

https://github.com/mojca/context/commit/a3f9fa299ecc3c9d8c3989c6e219dd9a1bcefaa1


In that version the functionality was completely broken (overlapping
limits), then it improved with time a bit, but never recovered
properly back.


I tested with asana, hoping that opentype fonts will behave better, but
asana is hopelessly broken in the other direction: too big integrals and
sums. To fix asana, change

DisplayOperatorMinHeight = more,

to

DisplayOperatorMinHeight = 0,

(or just comment it) in asana-math.lfg. After that, you can at least use
asana math as a work around.

Euler and Stix fonts work OK, and surprisingly so is txfonts! I thought
that px- and tx-fonts were handled identically. Why does the bug only
appear with px-fonts?

Comparing the two files, I noticed that skewchar is not set in px fonts.
Line 22 of px-math.lfg should be:

{ name = texgyrepagella-bold.otf, vector = tex-bf, skewchar=0x7F } ,

(but even after that change $\hat {\bi A}$ is set incorrectly).

Aditya
___

If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry
to the Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /
http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___




--

-
  Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
  Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
 | www.pragma-pod.nl
-
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___


Re: [NTG-context] Small integral signes with Palatino

2012-05-24 Thread Khaled Hosny
AFAIK, no.

The code that handles extensible delimiters changed, but IIUC
we are not talking about extensible symbol here.

Regards,
 Khaled

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 01:13:10AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
 Hi Khaled,
 
 just checking ... did the code related to display operator heights
 change as part of the math cleanup?
 
 Hans
 
 
 
 
 On 25-5-2012 00:40, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 On Fri, 25 May 2012, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
 
 On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
 On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 
 Any idea when this was introduced (or if this bug was always present)?
 
 beta 2011.07.14 16:09
 
 Oh, I'm sorry, nonsense. That was the last working one. The one
 introducing the bug was
 2011.07.19 10:35
 
 https://github.com/mojca/context/commit/a3f9fa299ecc3c9d8c3989c6e219dd9a1bcefaa1
 
 
 In that version the functionality was completely broken (overlapping
 limits), then it improved with time a bit, but never recovered
 properly back.
 
 I tested with asana, hoping that opentype fonts will behave better, but
 asana is hopelessly broken in the other direction: too big integrals and
 sums. To fix asana, change
 
 DisplayOperatorMinHeight = more,
 
 to
 
 DisplayOperatorMinHeight = 0,
 
 (or just comment it) in asana-math.lfg. After that, you can at least use
 asana math as a work around.
 
 Euler and Stix fonts work OK, and surprisingly so is txfonts! I thought
 that px- and tx-fonts were handled identically. Why does the bug only
 appear with px-fonts?
 
 Comparing the two files, I noticed that skewchar is not set in px fonts.
 Line 22 of px-math.lfg should be:
 
 { name = texgyrepagella-bold.otf, vector = tex-bf, skewchar=0x7F } ,
 
 (but even after that change $\hat {\bi A}$ is set incorrectly).
 
 Aditya
 ___
 
 If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry
 to the Wiki!
 
 maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /
 http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
 webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
 archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
 wiki : http://contextgarden.net
 ___
 
 
 
 -- 
 
 -
   Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
   Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
 tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
  | www.pragma-pod.nl
 -
___
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the 
Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___