Re: [NTG-context] Math typesetting problems
Indeed it seems like the alignment is good with \dfrac, but this does not solve my problem, since I wish to also use fractions with script-size or scriptscript-size (\xfrac, \xxfrac). The specific formula I have is \startformula f_{B_t | B_s = S, B_u = U}(x) = \frac{e^{-\frac{(u-s)x^2 - 2x(S(u-t) + U(t-s)) + \frac{(S(u-t) + U(t-s))^2}{(u-s)}}{2(t-s)(u-t)}}}{\sqrt{2\pi\frac{(t-s)(u-t)}{u-s}}} \stopformula Thanks, Janne Roland wrote: With \dfrac it looks good. With \fraction the minus sign is on the top of the fraction. Best regards, Roland ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Finding documentation for ConTeXt
Hi Everybody, I am becoming more and more interested in ConTeXt. I am gradually grasping the potential of ConTeXt and its advantages over Lua(La)TeX. My problem is finding decent documentation for ConTeXt. Yes, there is ConTeXt Garden. But, let us be honest it is a big mess. It mixes the old, the bad and the good. I will admit the information there has improved greatly, and YET finding the good and recent is not that easy. Furthermore, since I am interested in what one can and can not do in ConTeXt, I do not know ahead of time exactly what I am looking for. Basically, I literally just stumble over what is good and interesting. That would not be that bad if following the different links would not get one lost and one can not your way back. What would be needed are some decent top level entry points! On Pragma there, also, are some very good documents, but if you do not know where to look or what to look for, good searching!! I know all you guys and gals working on ConTeXt are working hard, but I hate to bother you with questions I want to do this or that, how do I or where can I find a guide on manual for this and that. You have more important things to do. Wolfgang help me with finding a ConTeXt-Lua Programming guide by Hans. sure its new, BUT could we put such guides into the Standalone distribution! Even if they are incomplete! What I could use is, now, is a ConTeXt programming guide! Sorry, if I seem to harsh. I do understand how much work documentation is. regards Keith. Am 27.01.2013 um 21:40 schrieb Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl: On 1/27/2013 5:24 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: Dear list, \starttext text $\overrightarrow{OP}$ text \stoptext gives smaller letters since some time ago under the arrow. See the attached pdf files for the output of different versions of context (test.pdf is compiled with the latest beta). I think the look in test20121210.pdf is the right one. fixed. some more info about the updated mkiv arrow related mechanisms can be found in http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/about.pdf (btw, one needs the latest greatest lm/gyre math fonts) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Finding documentation for ConTeXt
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Keith J. Schultz keithjschu...@web.de wrote: Hi Everybody, I am becoming more and more interested in ConTeXt. I am gradually grasping the potential of ConTeXt and its advantages over Lua(La)TeX. My problem is finding decent documentation for ConTeXt. have you seen also http://www.h2o-boeken.nl/catalog/5 ? -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Finding documentation for ConTeXt
Hi Luigi, I have serval books and seen these, yet I am not sure, yet If I want to put my money down, yet! What is more I do not know if they are necessarily what I need. Then there is the question, if they are up to date enough with the fast advancing MKIV. regards Keith. Am 28.01.2013 um 10:42 schrieb luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Keith J. Schultz keithjschu...@web.de wrote: Hi Everybody, I am becoming more and more interested in ConTeXt. I am gradually grasping the potential of ConTeXt and its advantages over Lua(La)TeX. My problem is finding decent documentation for ConTeXt. have you seen also http://www.h2o-boeken.nl/catalog/5 ? ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Coming back to ConTeXt
Hi ! Le 28/01/2013 00:39, Mojca Miklavec a écrit : On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Alain Delmotte wrote: Set the repository to http://tlcontrib.metatex.org/2012 and make sure that you don't have ConTeXt distribution in PATH*** when calling tlmgr. Ok I did and it seemed to work, at least some files were updated. But when I compiled I got the same versions' information in the log The same version of ConTeXt or the same version of LuaTeX? What do you get with luatex --version The same versions for both context and luatex: context 28782 20120630 luatex 26690 0.72.2-20120806 When I did update from TeX Live, 6 files were updated, but I did take note, unfortunately. By the way, I have two context.exe in TeX Live in: c:\texlive\2012\bin\win32 c:\texlive\2012\texmf-dist\scripts\context\stubs\mswin Testing form the command line, they are the same as noted above. The one in the standalone are: LuaTeX, Version beta-0.75.0-201301 (rev 4565) ConTeXt ver: 2013.01.24 16:47 MKIV fmt: 2013.1.25 int: english/english ? By the way, for the stand alone version under TeXworks, the bin folder information should go before those of TeX Live to avoid problems. In TeXworks one needs to be careful about paths in either case. (But then again, there's the same issue with basically any GUI program that runs TeX. PATH usually needs to be set up separately from the shell.) My paths are defined in Windows, but with TeXworks they also appear in the definition window for the program. I'll enquire to see if it is possible to suppress those. Alain Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Finding documentation for ConTeXt
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, Keith J. Schultz wrote: My problem is finding decent documentation for ConTeXt. Yes, there is ConTeXt Garden. But, let us be honest it is a big mess. It mixes the old, the bad and the good. I will admit the information there has improved greatly, and YET finding the good and recent is not that easy. Furthermore, since I am interested in what one can and can not do in ConTeXt, I do not know ahead of time exactly what I am looking for. Basically, I literally just stumble over what is good and interesting. That would not be that bad if following the different links would not get one lost and one can not your way back. See http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Template:Getting_started_navbox Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Finding documentation for ConTeXt
Hi Aditya, Thanx for the link. I have already can across several of the the links on this page/NAV-box(!!), and bookmark them. I had notice such boxes before, but considered them to contain database information and not further links! Learn new things everyday. One thing is for such I can not get to this page via the ConTeXt Main Page! At least I think not. (?) Would be nice if this page was link to from the main page. Again, many thanx. regards Keith. Am 28.01.2013 um 15:23 schrieb Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu: On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, Keith J. Schultz wrote: My problem is finding decent documentation for ConTeXt. Yes, there is ConTeXt Garden. But, let us be honest it is a big mess. It mixes the old, the bad and the good. I will admit the information there has improved greatly, and YET finding the good and recent is not that easy. Furthermore, since I am interested in what one can and can not do in ConTeXt, I do not know ahead of time exactly what I am looking for. Basically, I literally just stumble over what is good and interesting. That would not be that bad if following the different links would not get one lost and one can not your way back. See http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Template:Getting_started_navbox ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Math typesetting problems
Le 28 janv. 13 à 10:11, Janne Junnila a écrit : Indeed it seems like the alignment is good with \dfrac, but this does not solve my problem, since I wish to also use fractions with script-size or scriptscript-size (\xfrac, \xxfrac). The specific formula I have is \startformula f_{B_t | B_s = S, B_u = U}(x) = \frac{e^{-\frac{(u-s)x^2 - 2x(S(u-t) + U(t-s)) + \frac{(S(u-t) + U(t-s))^2}{(u-s)}}{2(t-s)(u-t)}}}{\sqrt{2\pi\frac{(t-s)(u-t)}{u-s}}} \stopformula Thanks, Janne OK ! So you need an expert, I'm just a newbie :) I would be interested to know how to do that. Best, Roland ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Finding documentation for ConTeXt
I think that one of the problems is that ConTeXt can do almost anything, if you know how to ask it to do that. What I do is different what most people use it for, but it works (http://context.aanhet.net/svn/contextman/context-reference/en/co-pagedesign.pdf and http://www.lucet.fi/2013/01/metaposting/ and http://www.lucet.fi/2012/12/twpatterns/). There used to be a project to create a test suite with various types of files, but the links on the wiki refer to something from 2009 and that is, as you say, probably a be obsolete. I remember somebody talking about the test suite at one of the more recent ConTeXt meetings (2011/2012) - anyone with more info on that project? I think it'd help Keith (and many others, me included) to see what can be done. If you do not want to splurge in the books, the revised chapters on typography, fonts and pagedesign are recommended reading and pretty well up-to-date. They are linked to the main page of the garden, but these take you directly to the pdfs: http://context.aanhet.net/svn/contextman/context-reference/en/co-typography.pdf http://context.aanhet.net/svn/contextman/context-reference/en/co-fonts.pdf http://context.aanhet.net/svn/contextman/context-reference/en/co-pagedesign.pdf Other than that, it'd be helpful to know what you are looking for: are interested in typography, doing layouts for you and others? Is automated workflow what you are looking for? Dealing with maths? XML? What about dealing with colour? Interactivity? I guess I've resigned to the fact that ConTeXt is so huge that I'll never know more than a fraction of it - so I operate on a need-to-know basis. I learn something either because I'm certain it can be done or because I've seen it at a ConTeXt meeting or heard about it (a remark by Hans is to be blamed for my recent MetaPosting excursions). A slightly off-topic thought: there are hundreds of manuals on Microsoft Word. However, once you start going deeper into the program, it is not *that* easy to find a single good manual on the subject. With ConTeXt it is the other way round, finding 'for Dummies' information is hard, but once you want to dive deep, the developers are on this list to answer questions. Just my five cents on the subject, Mari (who still remembers what things were like before the wiki. this is much better.) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] arranging vs. \page[last]
latest beta of ConTeXt MkIv standalone If I use \page[last] with arranging, ConTeXt inserts additional pages and the page that’s meant to be last is not: \setuppapersize[A5][A4,landscape] \setuparranging[2UP] \starttext \chapter{One} \input tufte \chapter{Two} \input tufte \page[last] \chapter{Last} \input tufte \stoptext (Workaround: make a not-arranged PDF and arrange \copypages) Greetlings, Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Math typesetting problems
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, Roland Thiers wrote: Le 28 janv. 13 à 10:11, Janne Junnila a écrit : Indeed it seems like the alignment is good with \dfrac, but this does not solve my problem, since I wish to also use fractions with script-size or scriptscript-size (\xfrac, \xxfrac). The specific formula I have is \startformula f_{B_t | B_s = S, B_u = U}(x) = \frac{e^{-\frac{(u-s)x^2 - 2x(S(u-t) + U(t-s)) + \frac{(S(u-t) + U(t-s))^2}{(u-s)}}{2(t-s)(u-t)}}}{\sqrt{2\pi\frac{(t-s)(u-t)}{u-s}}} \stopformula Thanks, Janne OK ! So you need an expert, I'm just a newbie :) I would be interested to know how to do that. Best, Roland I'll look into fractions later this week. All the fraction macros of ConTeXt were based on \genfrac macro from AMSTeX so, in principle, they should behave in the same manner. Aditya___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] arranging vs. \page[last]
Am 28.01.2013 um 20:39 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm hra...@fiee.net: latest beta of ConTeXt MkIv standalone If I use \page[last] with arranging, ConTeXt inserts additional pages and the page that’s meant to be last is not: \setuppapersize[A5][A4,landscape] \setuparranging[2UP] \starttext \chapter{One} \input tufte \chapter{Two} \input tufte \page[last] \chapter{Last} \input tufte \stoptext With \page[last] can fill your document with empty pages to fill the missing pages which are needed for a certain imposition method but you have to use it at the *end* of the document in *not in* the document. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] arranging vs. \page[last]
Am 2013-01-28 um 21:01 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: With \page[last] can fill your document with empty pages to fill the missing pages which are needed for a certain imposition method but you have to use it at the *end* of the document in *not in* the document. I understood it as forward to last page and need it to place some information on the back page of the booklet. That works as long as I don’t impose (arrange). What would you suggest to put something onto the last (i.e. back) page? Greetlings, Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] arranging vs. \page[last]
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm hra...@fiee.net wrote: What would you suggest to put something onto the last (i.e. back) page? The wiki has a trick, but I think it stopped working at some stage - maybe somebody can fix it (if it is broken): http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Imposition#Getting_the_last_page_of_a_Booklet (Obviously we aren't the only ones with this problem...) Mari ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Math typesetting problems
Am 28.01.2013 um 20:41 schrieb Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu: On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, Roland Thiers wrote: Le 28 janv. 13 à 10:11, Janne Junnila a écrit : Indeed it seems like the alignment is good with \dfrac, but this does not solve my problem, since I wish to also use fractions with script-size or scriptscript-size (\xfrac, \xxfrac). The specific formula I have is \startformula f_{B_t | B_s = S, B_u = U}(x) = \frac{e^{-\frac{(u-s)x^2 - 2x(S(u-t) + U(t-s)) + \frac{(S(u-t) + U(t-s))^2}{(u-s)}}{2(t-s)(u-t)}}}{\sqrt{2\pi\frac{(t-s)(u-t)}{u-s}}} \stopformula Thanks, Janne OK ! So you need an expert, I'm just a newbie :) I would be interested to know how to do that. Best, Roland I'll look into fractions later this week. All the fraction macros of ConTeXt were based on \genfrac macro from AMSTeX so, in principle, they should behave in the same manner. The \frac command uses \vcenter for the content while \dfrac and \tfrac only set the mathstyle before placing the content with the \over primitive. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Finding documentation for ConTeXt
Hi Mari, I thank you for you post. Basically, what I want to do is not in ConTeXt. So will have to develop it myself. One such need I have is the use of Nassi-Schneidermann Diagrams. I also, what to develop something along the line of literate programming. For that I will create Data structures on the Lua side and then visualize with ConTeXt in the form of UML, flowcharts, program specifications and documentation and the output of the actual programming code. Also, there are the things that ConTeXt and Lua(La)TeX do not offer or are not the way I like it. From your Link to the co-font.links.pdf I was able to look at the directory it was in. Interesting, is that its coresponding tex file is a half an year younger! What I do not understand why these documents are not in the standalone distribution. Sure I can search the web, but that has been cumbersome and very time consuming. The last point you mentioned that for the deep down things there is this list. You are right. But, comprehensive manuals are for me. And I want them on my computer. Furthermore I need to understand the ConTeXt (mkiv) programming language so I understand the *mkiv files. Programming is not new to me. regards Keith. Am 28.01.2013 um 18:38 schrieb Mari Voipio mari.voi...@iki.fi: I think that one of the problems is that ConTeXt can do almost anything, if you know how to ask it to do that. What I do is different what most people use it for, but it works (http://context.aanhet.net/svn/contextman/context-reference/en/co-pagedesign.pdf and http://www.lucet.fi/2013/01/metaposting/ and http://www.lucet.fi/2012/12/twpatterns/). There used to be a project to create a test suite with various types of files, but the links on the wiki refer to something from 2009 and that is, as you say, probably a be obsolete. I remember somebody talking about the test suite at one of the more recent ConTeXt meetings (2011/2012) - anyone with more info on that project? I think it'd help Keith (and many others, me included) to see what can be done. If you do not want to splurge in the books, the revised chapters on typography, fonts and pagedesign are recommended reading and pretty well up-to-date. They are linked to the main page of the garden, but these take you directly to the pdfs: http://context.aanhet.net/svn/contextman/context-reference/en/co-typography.pdf http://context.aanhet.net/svn/contextman/context-reference/en/co-fonts.pdf http://context.aanhet.net/svn/contextman/context-reference/en/co-pagedesign.pdf Other than that, it'd be helpful to know what you are looking for: are interested in typography, doing layouts for you and others? Is automated workflow what you are looking for? Dealing with maths? XML? What about dealing with colour? Interactivity? I guess I've resigned to the fact that ConTeXt is so huge that I'll never know more than a fraction of it - so I operate on a need-to-know basis. I learn something either because I'm certain it can be done or because I've seen it at a ConTeXt meeting or heard about it (a remark by Hans is to be blamed for my recent MetaPosting excursions). A slightly off-topic thought: there are hundreds of manuals on Microsoft Word. However, once you start going deeper into the program, it is not *that* easy to find a single good manual on the subject. With ConTeXt it is the other way round, finding 'for Dummies' information is hard, but once you want to dive deep, the developers are on this list to answer questions. Just my five cents on the subject, Mari (who still remembers what things were like before the wiki. this is much better.) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Math typesetting problems
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: I'll look into fractions later this week. All the fraction macros of ConTeXt were based on \genfrac macro from AMSTeX so, in principle, they should behave in the same manner. The \frac command uses \vcenter for the content while \dfrac and \tfrac only set the mathstyle before placing the content with the \over primitive. Then something has been lost in the MkII - MkIV transition. I am pretty sure (cannot check right now), that the code in MkII used \genfrac (which is a fancy wrapper around \over \ovewithdelim etc) Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Math typesetting problems
Hi Janne, Personnally I prefer to use the Plain TeX alternative \over (which works fine in ConTeXt), that is ${a \over b}$ instead of $\frac{a}{b}$ Compare the following two outputs in the example you want to typeset: I think the second is more or less what you want \starttext Using \type{\frac} gives: \startformula f_{B_t | B_s = S, B_u = U}(x) = \frac{e^{-\frac{(u-s)x^2 - 2x(S(u-t) + U(t-s)) + \frac{(S(u-t) + U(t-s))^2}{(u-s)}}{2(t-s)(u-t)}}}{\sqrt{2\pi\frac{(t-s)(u-t)}{u-s}}} \stopformula \blank Using \type{\over} gives: \startformula f_{B_t | B_s = S, B_u = U}(x) = { e^{-{(u-s)x^2 - 2x(S(u-t) + U(t-s)) + {(S(u-t) + U(t-s))^2 \over (u-s)} \over 2(t-s)(u-t)}} \over \sqrt{2\pi {(t-s)(u-t) \over u-s}}} \stopformula \stoptext Best regards: OK On 28 janv. 2013, at 10:11, Janne Junnila janne.junn...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed it seems like the alignment is good with \dfrac, but this does not solve my problem, since I wish to also use fractions with script-size or scriptscript-size (\xfrac, \xxfrac). The specific formula I have is \startformula f_{B_t | B_s = S, B_u = U}(x) = \frac{e^{-\frac{(u-s)x^2 - 2x(S(u-t) + U(t-s)) + \frac{(S(u-t) + U(t-s))^2}{(u-s)}}{2(t-s)(u-t)}}}{\sqrt{2\pi\frac{(t-s)(u-t)}{u-s}}} \stopformula Thanks, Janne Roland wrote: With \dfrac it looks good. With \fraction the minus sign is on the top of the fraction. Best regards, Roland ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Math typesetting problems
Am 28.01.2013 um 21:48 schrieb Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu: On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: I'll look into fractions later this week. All the fraction macros of ConTeXt were based on \genfrac macro from AMSTeX so, in principle, they should behave in the same manner. The \frac command uses \vcenter for the content while \dfrac and \tfrac only set the mathstyle before placing the content with the \over primitive. Then something has been lost in the MkII - MkIV transition. I am pretty sure (cannot check right now), that the code in MkII used \genfrac (which is a fancy wrapper around \over \ovewithdelim etc) Yes, MkII uses \genfrac but in MkIV the command is no longer available and all fraction commands have been rewritten. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Math typesetting problems
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, Otared Kavian wrote: Hi Janne, Personnally I prefer to use the Plain TeX alternative \over (which works fine in ConTeXt), that is ${a \over b}$ instead of $\frac{a}{b}$ Compare the following two outputs in the example you want to typeset: I think the second is more or less what you want \starttext Using \type{\frac} gives: \startformula f_{B_t | B_s = S, B_u = U}(x) = \frac{e^{-\frac{(u-s)x^2 - 2x(S(u-t) + U(t-s)) + \frac{(S(u-t) + U(t-s))^2}{(u-s)}}{2(t-s)(u-t)}}}{\sqrt{2\pi\frac{(t-s)(u-t)}{u-s}}} \stopformula Formatting and temporary macros (I usually use \1 \2 etc) make a huge difference in readability: \startformula \def\1 {\frac{ (u-s)x^2 - 2x(S(u-t) + U(t-s)) + \frac{(S(u-t) + U(t-s))^2} {(u-s)} }{ 2(t-s)(u-t)} } % f_{B_t | B_s = S, B_u = U}(x) = \frac { e^{\1} } { \sqrt{2\pi\frac{(t-s)(u-t)}{u-s}} } \stopformula \blank Using \type{\over} gives: \startformula f_{B_t | B_s = S, B_u = U}(x) = { e^{-{(u-s)x^2 - 2x(S(u-t) + U(t-s)) + {(S(u-t) + U(t-s))^2 \over (u-s)} \over 2(t-s)(u-t)}} \over \sqrt{2\pi {(t-s)(u-t) \over u-s}}} \stopformula \stoptext At some stage, we also need to look at nath's automatic conversion of display fractions to inline fractions (e.g., in the numberator \frac{ (S(u-t) + U(t-s))^2 } { (u-s) } should be typeset as (S(u-t) + U(t-s))^2/(u-s) because it is being typeset in \scriptstyle. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Math typesetting problems
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 09:33:52PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: The \frac command uses \vcenter for the content while \dfrac and \tfrac only set the mathstyle before placing the content with the \over primitive. The use of \vcenter seems odd here as it means the fraction rule will no longer guranteed to be centered around the math axis: \starttext \math{-\frac{a^{2^{2^2}}}{a} {a^{2^{2^2}}\over a}} \stoptext Also, why \frac is forcing text style fractions even in display mode? \starttext \startformula -\frac{a^{2^{2^2}}}{a} {a^{2^{2^2}}\over a} \stopformula \stoptext Both behaviours are different from MkII. Regards, Khaled ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] arranging vs. \page[last]
Mari Voipio mari.voi...@iki.fi writes: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm hra...@fiee.net wrote: What would you suggest to put something onto the last (i.e. back) page? The wiki has a trick, but I think it stopped working at some stage - maybe somebody can fix it (if it is broken): http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Imposition#Getting_the_last_page_of_a_Booklet (Obviously we aren't the only ones with this problem...) I use the following code (luatex only). \startusercode function fillsignature(pages) -- skip the cover pages = pages - 2 local originalpages = pages --set needed pages to 0 local neededpages = 0 local modulo = pages % 4 if modulo ~= 0 then neededpages = 4 - modulo end if neededpages ~= 0 then global.texio.write_nl('term and log', Here I added .. neededpages .. pages) tex.print(\\dorecurse{ .. neededpages .. }{\\page[empty]}) else global.texio.write_nl('No page needed!') end end \stopusercode \define[1]\fillthesignature{ \usercode{fillsignature(#1)}} \define\bookletclosing{ \fillthesignature{\the\realpageno} \page[empty]} \setuppapersize[A5][A4,landscape] \setuparranging[2UP] \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided] \starttext \dorecurse{10}{ \input knuth \page[yes] \input knuth } \bookletclosing This is the last page \stoptext Best wishes -- Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___