[NTG-context] non-splitting footnotes

[Brian Ballsun-Stanton]

Hi folks,

http://context.fedarch.org/Context/trapChapter16_petra.pdf page 7-8 there's
a very large space due to a footnote.

I've tried to induce footnote splitting (I just updated to mtx-context
| current version: 2016.03.04 10:39) but it doesn't seem to work.

All the discussion on this list is... 8 years old. What is a correct way of
solving the long footnote not splitting over pages problem (besides
shooting the author?)

Cheers,
-Brian
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[NTG-context] Bug in startitemize

[Otared Kavian]

Hi Hans,

It seems that with the new beta (ConTeXt  ver: 2016.03.04 10:39 MKIV beta  fmt: 
2016.3.7), there is a bug with random itemization.
I cannot tell exactly when this feature has been broken.
The problem is that for instance in the following example, sometimes the item C 
is repeated three times, sometimes A is repeated twice, etc.

\starttext

\startitemize[n,random]
\startitem A \stopitem
\startitem B \stopitem
\startitem C \stopitem
\stopitemize

\stoptext

Best regards: OK
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Re: [NTG-context] Bug in startitemize

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Otared Kavian 
7. März 2016 um 20:28
Hi Hans,

It seems that with the new beta (ConTeXt ver: 2016.03.04 10:39 MKIV 
beta fmt: 2016.3.7), there is a bug with random itemization.

I cannot tell exactly when this feature has been broken.
The problem is that for instance in the following example, sometimes 
the item C is repeated three times, sometimes A is repeated twice, etc.

strc-itm.mkvi:

\def\strc_itemgroups_collected_flush
  {\ifconditional\c_strc_itemgroups_randomize
 
\getrandomcount\c_strc_itemgroups_collected_current\plusone\c_strc_itemgroups_collected_stored

   \else
 \advance\c_strc_itemgroups_collected_current\plusone
   \fi
   
\ifcsname\??itemgroupstack\number\c_strc_itemgroups_collected_current\endcsname

 \edef\collecteditemgroupitem{\lastnamedcs}%
 \ifconditional\c_strc_itemgroups_horizontal
   \strc_itemgroups_collected_flush_horizontal
 \else
   \collecteditemgroupitem
+  
\letbeundefined{\??itemgroupstack\number\c_strc_itemgroups_collected_current}%

 \fi
 \advance\c_strc_itemgroups_collected_done\plusone
   \fi
   
\ifnum\c_strc_itemgroups_collected_done<\c_strc_itemgroups_collected_stored

 \expandafter\strc_itemgroups_collected_flush
   \fi}

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] How to avoid overriding a control sequence?

[luigi scarso]

On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 7:40 PM, Nicola  wrote:

> How do I check in ConTeXt whether a control sequence is already
> defined (to avoid redefining it by accident)?
>
>
kind of

\ifdefined\writebanner \else \unexpanded\def\writebanner{\writestring}
\fi
?



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Re: [NTG-context] How to avoid overriding a control sequence?

[Nicola]

On 2016-03-07 18:47:20 +, luigi scarso said:


On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 7:40 PM, Nicola  wrote:
How do I check in ConTeXt whether a control sequence is already
defined (to avoid redefining it by accident)?


kind of 

\ifdefined\writebanner \else \unexpanded\def\writebanner{\writestring}     \fi
?


That works, thanks!

Nicola


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[NTG-context] How to avoid overriding a control sequence?

[Nicola]

How do I check in ConTeXt whether a control sequence is already
defined (to avoid redefining it by accident)?

Marginally related to the above, I have tried to use \show, only to
discover, to my surprise, that it gives an error. For example:

\show\NL
\end

Does ConTeXt override some of TeX primitives?

Nicola


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Re: [NTG-context] in next beta

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Hans Hagen 
4. März 2016 um 12:01
\starttext

\setuplistalternative
  [c]
  [filler=symbol,
   symbol=\hbox to .25em{\periodcentered},
   symcolor=darkred,
   symstyle=\bf]

\startsubject[title=Contents]
\placelist[section][criterium=all,alternative=c]
\stopsubject

\startsection[title=D. Ward]
\input ward
\stopsection
\startsection[title=E.R. Tufte]
\input tufte
\stopsection

\stoptext
Is there a reason why you haven’t used the filler command from 
spac-flr.mkiv?


Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] weird behavior of brackets in block quotations

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Alan Bowen 
7. März 2016 um 21:52
We use “[...]” in quotations to indicate departures from the written text.

In the latest beta, “[...]” is a problem in block quotations and [] 
does not appear in the output.


\setupdelimitedtext
[blockquote]
[before={\blank[small,fixed]},
after={\blank[small,fixed]}]

\starttext
[t]he quotation goes as follows:
\startblockquote

\startblockquote\relax

[t]he science of astrology was developed in, most probably,
\stopblockquote
\input ward
\stoptext

“[...]” is OK in the body text and “[]” appears in the output.

But, in the block quotation, “[…]” gets the error message:

The \startblockquote command has a optional argument (which is passed to 
\startnarrower)

and you have to stop ConTeXt to use [t] as the argument for the command.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] How to avoid overriding a control sequence?

[Hans Hagen]

On 3/7/2016 7:40 PM, Nicola wrote:

How do I check in ConTeXt whether a control sequence is already
defined (to avoid redefining it by accident)?

Marginally related to the above, I have tried to use \show, only to
discover, to my surprise, that it gives an error. For example:

\show\NL
\end

Does ConTeXt override some of TeX primitives?


yes, like \month ... but in general if you use uppercase or camelcase 
you're quite safe (there are some math symbols with uppercase but if you 
define your own commands you will probably not use those) ... mechanisms 
like tables that use \NC and so define them local


Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] How to avoid overriding a control sequence?

[Nicola]

On 2016-03-07 20:16:45 +, Hans Hagen said:


On 3/7/2016 7:40 PM, Nicola wrote:

How do I check in ConTeXt whether a control sequence is already
defined (to avoid redefining it by accident)?

Marginally related to the above, I have tried to use \show, only to
discover, to my surprise, that it gives an error. For example:

\show\NL
\end

Does ConTeXt override some of TeX primitives?


yes, like \month ... but in general if you use uppercase or camelcase
you're quite safe (there are some math symbols with uppercase but if you
define your own commands you will probably not use those) ... mechanisms
like tables that use \NC and so define them local


I see. Local commands are a good idea. I usually use camelcase, but
since I wanted to define some two-letter sequences, I thought I'd
better be cautious.

Nicola


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Re: [NTG-context] Bug in startitemize

[Otared Kavian]

Thanks Wolfgang,

Your patch does indeed solve the problem, after rebuilding with

context --make —all

Best regards: OK

> On 07 Mar 2016, at 20:46, Wolfgang Schuster  
> wrote:
> 
>> Otared Kavian 7. März 2016 um 20:28
>> Hi Hans,
>> 
>> It seems that with the new beta (ConTeXt ver: 2016.03.04 10:39 MKIV beta 
>> fmt: 2016.3.7), there is a bug with random itemization.
>> I cannot tell exactly when this feature has been broken.
>> The problem is that for instance in the following example, sometimes the 
>> item C is repeated three times, sometimes A is repeated twice, etc.
> strc-itm.mkvi:
> 
> \def\strc_itemgroups_collected_flush
>   {\ifconditional\c_strc_itemgroups_randomize
>  
> \getrandomcount\c_strc_itemgroups_collected_current\plusone\c_strc_itemgroups_collected_stored
>\else
>  \advance\c_strc_itemgroups_collected_current\plusone
>\fi
>
> \ifcsname\??itemgroupstack\number\c_strc_itemgroups_collected_current\endcsname
>  \edef\collecteditemgroupitem{\lastnamedcs}%
>  \ifconditional\c_strc_itemgroups_horizontal
>\strc_itemgroups_collected_flush_horizontal
>  \else
>\collecteditemgroupitem
> +  
> \letbeundefined{\??itemgroupstack\number\c_strc_itemgroups_collected_current}%
>  \fi
>  \advance\c_strc_itemgroups_collected_done\plusone
>\fi
>\ifnum\c_strc_itemgroups_collected_done<\c_strc_itemgroups_collected_stored
>  \expandafter\strc_itemgroups_collected_flush
>\fi}
> 
> Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] weird behavior of brackets in block quotations

[Alan Bowen]

We use “[...]” in quotations to indicate departures from the written text.

In the latest beta, “[...]” is a problem in block quotations and [] does
not appear in the output.

\setupdelimitedtext
[blockquote]
[before={\blank[small,fixed]},
  after={\blank[small,fixed]}]

\starttext
[t]he quotation goes as follows:
\startblockquote
[t]he science of astrology was developed in, most probably,
\stopblockquote
\input ward
\stoptext

“[...]” is OK in the body text and “[]” appears in the output.

But, in the block quotation, “[…]” gets the error message:


tex error   > tex error on line 14 in file
/Users/bowen1/Desktop/TestTeX/test.tex: ! Missing number, treated as zero


tex error   > tex error on line 9 in file
/Users/bowen1/Desktop/TestTeX/test.tex: ! Missing number, treated as zero




t

\spac_narrower_method_analyze ...c_narrower_mid #1

  \relax \fi

\syst_helpers_repeat_with_command ..._again [#1]#5

  \else
\syst_helpers_repeat...

\17>>1 ..._process_comma_list_with_parameters {#1}


\syst_helpers_do_process_c...

\syst_helpers_do_process_comma_list ...rgument #1,

  ]\relax \global \advance
\...

\spac_narrower_start_apply ...narrower_initialize

  \advance \leftskip
\dimexp...

...

l.9 [t]

 he science of astrology was developed in, most probably,


 1 \setupdelimitedtext

 2 [blockquote]

 3 [before={\blank[small,fixed]},

 4   after={\blank[small,fixed]}]

 5

 6 \starttext

 7 [t]he quotation goes as follows:

 8 \startblockquote

 9 >>  [t]he science of astrology was developed in, most probably,

10 \stopblockquote

11 \input ward

12 \stoptext


Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] weird behavior of brackets in block quotations

[Alan Bowen]

Thanks, Wolfgang! That is very helpful.

Alan

On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 3:56 PM, Wolfgang Schuster <
schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Alan Bowen 
> 7. März 2016 um 21:52
> We use “[...]” in quotations to indicate departures from the written text.
>
> In the latest beta, “[...]” is a problem in block quotations and [] does
> not appear in the output.
>
> \setupdelimitedtext
> [blockquote]
> [before={\blank[small,fixed]},
>   after={\blank[small,fixed]}]
>
> \starttext
> [t]he quotation goes as follows:
> \startblockquote
>
> \startblockquote\relax
>
> [t]he science of astrology was developed in, most probably,
> \stopblockquote
> \input ward
> \stoptext
>
> “[...]” is OK in the body text and “[]” appears in the output.
>
> But, in the block quotation, “[…]” gets the error message:
>
> The \startblockquote command has a optional argument (which is passed to
> \startnarrower)
> and you have to stop ConTeXt to use [t] as the argument for the command.
>
> Wolfgang
>
>
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