[Nuke-users] Adobe anyone?

2015-04-26 Thread Ron Ganbar
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/privateequity/11562472/Adobe-eyes-200m-bid-for-British-visual-effects-firm-The-Foundry.html


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Re: [Nuke-users] Adobe anyone?

2015-04-26 Thread Howard Jones
Oh well and it all starts again. Better than being bought by Apple or Microsoft 
I guess. 

Howard

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Re: [Nuke-users] Adobe anyone?

2015-04-26 Thread Chris Noellert
My favorite snippet: 

The Foundry's visual effects software Nuke was used to make the 
computer-generated characters in Guardians of the Galaxy look completely real 

The company has recently launched a concept design software productcalled Modo, 
which means that prototype cars, phones and trainers can be drawn immediately 
into 3D rather than drawn first by hand in 2D and then physically built.



Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [Nuke-users] Adobe anyone?

2015-04-26 Thread J Bills
I'd love to see Adobe win the bid.  I think there's a lot of work to be
done leveraging all of that tech across the various apps, and a company
like Adobe could put enough resources to make it happen where I think the
Foundry has had enough to pull the raw ingredients together and pry these
apps out of the studios and out into the open - but to properly merge them
anytime soon, and mass market them correctly to maximize sales and cross
pollination, takes possibly more muscle than they have.  Not to say that
they couldn't get there but Adobe stepping in would kick everything into
overdrive.

Modo makes a TON of sense for them to finally enter the 3d market with,
since it's got it's hooks firmly planted in the design world.

Nuke (and Mari) would make a great base for a Photoshop rewrite.  A non
destructive, truly float capable Photoshop that still maintains
interactivity?  Wow.  We've all known dating back to Shake that this is a
much better way to work, but I imagine any attempt that Apple or anyone
else has ever made at a Photoshop killer was probably met with lots of
patent litigation.

Lots more could be done with Katana.  Anyone that worked at Sony knows it's
gold.  Would be cool to see it pushed up the priority list or further
integrated with Nuke.

I imagine the real prize for Adobe is Modo, but I'd hope nothing happens to
the purity of Nuke and that they wouldn't strip it for tech and then leave
it for dead, like Avid/Apple/etc.  I had thought the future of Nuke was
relatively safe but I suppose nothing is ever a sure thing.

Let's hope this isn't the kiss of death.  Fusion makes me cringe (but the
price is right!)


On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com wrote:

 That would actually be a welcome thing.
 An Adobe purchase might turn out to be a good thing in the end. It doesn't
 all need to end up like Apple buying Nothing Real. It can end up like
 Blackmagic buying Fusion. Who knows.
 R





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 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 9:11 PM, Gil Woodley gil.wood...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I see a subscription model in the future...

 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 8:02 PM, Elias Ericsson Rydberg 
 elias.ericsson.rydb...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would have loved to see Side FX aquire The Foundry.
 Den 26 apr 2015 19:59 skrev Jose Fernandez de Castro 
 pixelcowbo...@gmail.com:

 That would be really terrible news if they got acquired by Adobe...

 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was thinking of Freehand. I loved Freehand. Took me years to get
 used to illustrator.

 R
 On 26 Apr 2015 20:16, Randy Little randyslit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Macromedia did fine after purchase accept for freehand.
 On Apr 26, 2015 1:07 PM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah, the Telegraph are spot on.

 I agree with Diogo. Hope The Foundry won't end up like Macromedia...



 Ron Ganbar
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 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Chris Noellert cnoell...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 My favorite snippet:

 *The Foundry's visual effects software Nuke was used to make the
 computer-generated characters in Guardians of the Galaxy look 
 completely
 real *

 The company* has recently launched a concept design software
 product
 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/businessclub/technology/11206167/Harry-Potter-to-Guardians-of-the-Galaxy-the-British-firm-behind-the-Hollywood-blockbusters.html*called
 Modo, which means that prototype cars, phones and trainers can be drawn
 immediately into 3D rather than drawn first by hand in 2D and then
 physically built.


 Sent from my iPhone

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 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/privateequity/11562472/Adobe-eyes-200m-bid-for-British-visual-effects-firm-The-Foundry.html


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Re: [Nuke-users] Adobe anyone?

2015-04-26 Thread Randy Little
Yes but what happens to all the technology trade deals.  Katana and Nuke
trade,   Weta deals with Mari etc... What obstacles do those pose for
those apps? As quite as the Foundry has been recently accept for Modo seems
like something might already be in play.

Randy S. Little
http://www.rslittle.com/
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2325729/



On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 6:19 PM, J Bills jbillsn...@flickfx.com wrote:

 I'd love to see Adobe win the bid.  I think there's a lot of work to be
 done leveraging all of that tech across the various apps, and a company
 like Adobe could put enough resources to make it happen where I think the
 Foundry has had enough to pull the raw ingredients together and pry these
 apps out of the studios and out into the open - but to properly merge them
 anytime soon, and mass market them correctly to maximize sales and cross
 pollination, takes possibly more muscle than they have.  Not to say that
 they couldn't get there but Adobe stepping in would kick everything into
 overdrive.

 Modo makes a TON of sense for them to finally enter the 3d market with,
 since it's got it's hooks firmly planted in the design world.

 Nuke (and Mari) would make a great base for a Photoshop rewrite.  A non
 destructive, truly float capable Photoshop that still maintains
 interactivity?  Wow.  We've all known dating back to Shake that this is a
 much better way to work, but I imagine any attempt that Apple or anyone
 else has ever made at a Photoshop killer was probably met with lots of
 patent litigation.

 Lots more could be done with Katana.  Anyone that worked at Sony knows
 it's gold.  Would be cool to see it pushed up the priority list or further
 integrated with Nuke.

 I imagine the real prize for Adobe is Modo, but I'd hope nothing happens
 to the purity of Nuke and that they wouldn't strip it for tech and then
 leave it for dead, like Avid/Apple/etc.  I had thought the future of Nuke
 was relatively safe but I suppose nothing is ever a sure thing.

 Let's hope this isn't the kiss of death.  Fusion makes me cringe (but the
 price is right!)


 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com wrote:

 That would actually be a welcome thing.
 An Adobe purchase might turn out to be a good thing in the end. It
 doesn't all need to end up like Apple buying Nothing Real. It can end up
 like Blackmagic buying Fusion. Who knows.
 R





 Ron Ganbar
 email: ron...@gmail.com
 tel: +44 (0)7968 007 309 [UK]
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 url: http://ronganbar.wordpress.com/

 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 9:11 PM, Gil Woodley gil.wood...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I see a subscription model in the future...

 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 8:02 PM, Elias Ericsson Rydberg 
 elias.ericsson.rydb...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would have loved to see Side FX aquire The Foundry.
 Den 26 apr 2015 19:59 skrev Jose Fernandez de Castro 
 pixelcowbo...@gmail.com:

 That would be really terrible news if they got acquired by Adobe...

 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was thinking of Freehand. I loved Freehand. Took me years to get
 used to illustrator.

 R
 On 26 Apr 2015 20:16, Randy Little randyslit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Macromedia did fine after purchase accept for freehand.
 On Apr 26, 2015 1:07 PM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah, the Telegraph are spot on.

 I agree with Diogo. Hope The Foundry won't end up like Macromedia...



 Ron Ganbar
 email: ron...@gmail.com
 tel: +44 (0)7968 007 309 [UK]
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 url: http://ronganbar.wordpress.com/

 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Chris Noellert 
 cnoell...@gmail.com wrote:

 My favorite snippet:

 *The Foundry's visual effects software Nuke was used to make the
 computer-generated characters in Guardians of the Galaxy look 
 completely
 real *

 The company* has recently launched a concept design software
 product
 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/businessclub/technology/11206167/Harry-Potter-to-Guardians-of-the-Galaxy-the-British-firm-behind-the-Hollywood-blockbusters.html*called
 Modo, which means that prototype cars, phones and trainers can be 
 drawn
 immediately into 3D rather than drawn first by hand in 2D and then
 physically built.


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 26, 2015, at 12:32 AM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com wrote:


 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/privateequity/11562472/Adobe-eyes-200m-bid-for-British-visual-effects-firm-The-Foundry.html


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Re: [Nuke-users] Adobe anyone?

2015-04-26 Thread Ron Ganbar
I was thinking of Freehand. I loved Freehand. Took me years to get used to
illustrator.

R
On 26 Apr 2015 20:16, Randy Little randyslit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Macromedia did fine after purchase accept for freehand.
 On Apr 26, 2015 1:07 PM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah, the Telegraph are spot on.

 I agree with Diogo. Hope The Foundry won't end up like Macromedia...



 Ron Ganbar
 email: ron...@gmail.com
 tel: +44 (0)7968 007 309 [UK]
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 url: http://ronganbar.wordpress.com/

 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Chris Noellert cnoell...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 My favorite snippet:

 *The Foundry's visual effects software Nuke was used to make the
 computer-generated characters in Guardians of the Galaxy look completely
 real *

 The company* has recently launched a concept design software product
 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/businessclub/technology/11206167/Harry-Potter-to-Guardians-of-the-Galaxy-the-British-firm-behind-the-Hollywood-blockbusters.html*called
 Modo, which means that prototype cars, phones and trainers can be drawn
 immediately into 3D rather than drawn first by hand in 2D and then
 physically built.


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 26, 2015, at 12:32 AM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com wrote:


 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/privateequity/11562472/Adobe-eyes-200m-bid-for-British-visual-effects-firm-The-Foundry.html


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Re: [Nuke-users] Adobe anyone?

2015-04-26 Thread Ron Ganbar
Yeah, the Telegraph are spot on.

I agree with Diogo. Hope The Foundry won't end up like Macromedia...



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On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Chris Noellert cnoell...@gmail.com wrote:

 My favorite snippet:

 *The Foundry's visual effects software Nuke was used to make the
 computer-generated characters in Guardians of the Galaxy look completely
 real *

 The company* has recently launched a concept design software product
 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/businessclub/technology/11206167/Harry-Potter-to-Guardians-of-the-Galaxy-the-British-firm-behind-the-Hollywood-blockbusters.html*called
 Modo, which means that prototype cars, phones and trainers can be drawn
 immediately into 3D rather than drawn first by hand in 2D and then
 physically built.


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 26, 2015, at 12:32 AM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com wrote:


 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/privateequity/11562472/Adobe-eyes-200m-bid-for-British-visual-effects-firm-The-Foundry.html


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Re: [Nuke-users] Adobe anyone?

2015-04-26 Thread Randy Little
Macromedia did fine after purchase accept for freehand.
On Apr 26, 2015 1:07 PM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah, the Telegraph are spot on.

 I agree with Diogo. Hope The Foundry won't end up like Macromedia...



 Ron Ganbar
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 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Chris Noellert cnoell...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 My favorite snippet:

 *The Foundry's visual effects software Nuke was used to make the
 computer-generated characters in Guardians of the Galaxy look completely
 real *

 The company* has recently launched a concept design software product
 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/businessclub/technology/11206167/Harry-Potter-to-Guardians-of-the-Galaxy-the-British-firm-behind-the-Hollywood-blockbusters.html*called
 Modo, which means that prototype cars, phones and trainers can be drawn
 immediately into 3D rather than drawn first by hand in 2D and then
 physically built.


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 26, 2015, at 12:32 AM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com wrote:


 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/privateequity/11562472/Adobe-eyes-200m-bid-for-British-visual-effects-firm-The-Foundry.html


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Re: [Nuke-users] Adobe anyone?

2015-04-26 Thread michael vorberg
It's owned by a private equity investor,  the Carlyle group. The bought
them some years ago, for estimated 75mio USD, and now it's time to make
some profit
Am 26.04.2015 19:10 schrieb Elias Ericsson Rydberg 
elias.ericsson.rydb...@gmail.com:

 Why is The Foundry for sale? Can anyone give the short version?
 Den 26 apr 2015 19:07 skrev Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com:

 Yeah, the Telegraph are spot on.

 I agree with Diogo. Hope The Foundry won't end up like Macromedia...



 Ron Ganbar
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 tel: +44 (0)7968 007 309 [UK]
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 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Chris Noellert cnoell...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 My favorite snippet:

 *The Foundry's visual effects software Nuke was used to make the
 computer-generated characters in Guardians of the Galaxy look completely
 real *

 The company* has recently launched a concept design software product
 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/businessclub/technology/11206167/Harry-Potter-to-Guardians-of-the-Galaxy-the-British-firm-behind-the-Hollywood-blockbusters.html*called
 Modo, which means that prototype cars, phones and trainers can be drawn
 immediately into 3D rather than drawn first by hand in 2D and then
 physically built.


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 26, 2015, at 12:32 AM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com wrote:


 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/privateequity/11562472/Adobe-eyes-200m-bid-for-British-visual-effects-firm-The-Foundry.html


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Re: [Nuke-users] Adobe anyone?

2015-04-26 Thread Elias Ericsson Rydberg
I would have loved to see Side FX aquire The Foundry.
Den 26 apr 2015 19:59 skrev Jose Fernandez de Castro 
pixelcowbo...@gmail.com:

 That would be really terrible news if they got acquired by Adobe...

 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was thinking of Freehand. I loved Freehand. Took me years to get used
 to illustrator.

 R
 On 26 Apr 2015 20:16, Randy Little randyslit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Macromedia did fine after purchase accept for freehand.
 On Apr 26, 2015 1:07 PM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah, the Telegraph are spot on.

 I agree with Diogo. Hope The Foundry won't end up like Macromedia...



 Ron Ganbar
 email: ron...@gmail.com
 tel: +44 (0)7968 007 309 [UK]
  +972 (0)54 255 9765 [Israel]
 url: http://ronganbar.wordpress.com/

 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Chris Noellert cnoell...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 My favorite snippet:

 *The Foundry's visual effects software Nuke was used to make the
 computer-generated characters in Guardians of the Galaxy look completely
 real *

 The company* has recently launched a concept design software product
 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/businessclub/technology/11206167/Harry-Potter-to-Guardians-of-the-Galaxy-the-British-firm-behind-the-Hollywood-blockbusters.html*called
 Modo, which means that prototype cars, phones and trainers can be drawn
 immediately into 3D rather than drawn first by hand in 2D and then
 physically built.


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 26, 2015, at 12:32 AM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com wrote:


 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/privateequity/11562472/Adobe-eyes-200m-bid-for-British-visual-effects-firm-The-Foundry.html


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Re: [Nuke-users] Adobe anyone?

2015-04-26 Thread Gil Woodley
I see a subscription model in the future...

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 8:02 PM, Elias Ericsson Rydberg 
elias.ericsson.rydb...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would have loved to see Side FX aquire The Foundry.
 Den 26 apr 2015 19:59 skrev Jose Fernandez de Castro 
 pixelcowbo...@gmail.com:

 That would be really terrible news if they got acquired by Adobe...

 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was thinking of Freehand. I loved Freehand. Took me years to get used
 to illustrator.

 R
 On 26 Apr 2015 20:16, Randy Little randyslit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Macromedia did fine after purchase accept for freehand.
 On Apr 26, 2015 1:07 PM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah, the Telegraph are spot on.

 I agree with Diogo. Hope The Foundry won't end up like Macromedia...



 Ron Ganbar
 email: ron...@gmail.com
 tel: +44 (0)7968 007 309 [UK]
  +972 (0)54 255 9765 [Israel]
 url: http://ronganbar.wordpress.com/

 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Chris Noellert cnoell...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 My favorite snippet:

 *The Foundry's visual effects software Nuke was used to make the
 computer-generated characters in Guardians of the Galaxy look completely
 real *

 The company* has recently launched a concept design software product
 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/businessclub/technology/11206167/Harry-Potter-to-Guardians-of-the-Galaxy-the-British-firm-behind-the-Hollywood-blockbusters.html*called
 Modo, which means that prototype cars, phones and trainers can be drawn
 immediately into 3D rather than drawn first by hand in 2D and then
 physically built.


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 26, 2015, at 12:32 AM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com wrote:


 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/privateequity/11562472/Adobe-eyes-200m-bid-for-British-visual-effects-firm-The-Foundry.html


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Re: [Nuke-users] Adobe anyone?

2015-04-26 Thread Gustaf Nilsson
everything is for sale

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Elias Ericsson Rydberg 
elias.ericsson.rydb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Why is The Foundry for sale? Can anyone give the short version?
 Den 26 apr 2015 19:07 skrev Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com:

 Yeah, the Telegraph are spot on.

 I agree with Diogo. Hope The Foundry won't end up like Macromedia...



 Ron Ganbar
 email: ron...@gmail.com
 tel: +44 (0)7968 007 309 [UK]
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 url: http://ronganbar.wordpress.com/

 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Chris Noellert cnoell...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 My favorite snippet:

 *The Foundry's visual effects software Nuke was used to make the
 computer-generated characters in Guardians of the Galaxy look completely
 real *

 The company* has recently launched a concept design software product
 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/businessclub/technology/11206167/Harry-Potter-to-Guardians-of-the-Galaxy-the-British-firm-behind-the-Hollywood-blockbusters.html*called
 Modo, which means that prototype cars, phones and trainers can be drawn
 immediately into 3D rather than drawn first by hand in 2D and then
 physically built.


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 26, 2015, at 12:32 AM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com wrote:


 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/privateequity/11562472/Adobe-eyes-200m-bid-for-British-visual-effects-firm-The-Foundry.html


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Re: [Nuke-users] Adobe anyone?

2015-04-26 Thread Jose Fernandez de Castro
That would be really terrible news if they got acquired by Adobe...

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was thinking of Freehand. I loved Freehand. Took me years to get used to
 illustrator.

 R
 On 26 Apr 2015 20:16, Randy Little randyslit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Macromedia did fine after purchase accept for freehand.
 On Apr 26, 2015 1:07 PM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah, the Telegraph are spot on.

 I agree with Diogo. Hope The Foundry won't end up like Macromedia...



 Ron Ganbar
 email: ron...@gmail.com
 tel: +44 (0)7968 007 309 [UK]
  +972 (0)54 255 9765 [Israel]
 url: http://ronganbar.wordpress.com/

 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Chris Noellert cnoell...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 My favorite snippet:

 *The Foundry's visual effects software Nuke was used to make the
 computer-generated characters in Guardians of the Galaxy look completely
 real *

 The company* has recently launched a concept design software product
 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/businessclub/technology/11206167/Harry-Potter-to-Guardians-of-the-Galaxy-the-British-firm-behind-the-Hollywood-blockbusters.html*called
 Modo, which means that prototype cars, phones and trainers can be drawn
 immediately into 3D rather than drawn first by hand in 2D and then
 physically built.


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 26, 2015, at 12:32 AM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com wrote:


 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/privateequity/11562472/Adobe-eyes-200m-bid-for-British-visual-effects-firm-The-Foundry.html


 Ron Ganbar
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Re: [Nuke-users] Adobe anyone?

2015-04-26 Thread Ron Ganbar
That would actually be a welcome thing.
An Adobe purchase might turn out to be a good thing in the end. It doesn't
all need to end up like Apple buying Nothing Real. It can end up like
Blackmagic buying Fusion. Who knows.
R





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On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 9:11 PM, Gil Woodley gil.wood...@gmail.com wrote:

 I see a subscription model in the future...

 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 8:02 PM, Elias Ericsson Rydberg 
 elias.ericsson.rydb...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would have loved to see Side FX aquire The Foundry.
 Den 26 apr 2015 19:59 skrev Jose Fernandez de Castro 
 pixelcowbo...@gmail.com:

 That would be really terrible news if they got acquired by Adobe...

 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was thinking of Freehand. I loved Freehand. Took me years to get used
 to illustrator.

 R
 On 26 Apr 2015 20:16, Randy Little randyslit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Macromedia did fine after purchase accept for freehand.
 On Apr 26, 2015 1:07 PM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah, the Telegraph are spot on.

 I agree with Diogo. Hope The Foundry won't end up like Macromedia...



 Ron Ganbar
 email: ron...@gmail.com
 tel: +44 (0)7968 007 309 [UK]
  +972 (0)54 255 9765 [Israel]
 url: http://ronganbar.wordpress.com/

 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Chris Noellert cnoell...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 My favorite snippet:

 *The Foundry's visual effects software Nuke was used to make the
 computer-generated characters in Guardians of the Galaxy look completely
 real *

 The company* has recently launched a concept design software
 product
 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/businessclub/technology/11206167/Harry-Potter-to-Guardians-of-the-Galaxy-the-British-firm-behind-the-Hollywood-blockbusters.html*called
 Modo, which means that prototype cars, phones and trainers can be drawn
 immediately into 3D rather than drawn first by hand in 2D and then
 physically built.


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 26, 2015, at 12:32 AM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com wrote:


 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/privateequity/11562472/Adobe-eyes-200m-bid-for-British-visual-effects-firm-The-Foundry.html


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Re: [Nuke-users] Adobe anyone?

2015-04-26 Thread Elias Ericsson Rydberg
Why is The Foundry for sale? Can anyone give the short version?
Den 26 apr 2015 19:07 skrev Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com:

 Yeah, the Telegraph are spot on.

 I agree with Diogo. Hope The Foundry won't end up like Macromedia...



 Ron Ganbar
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 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Chris Noellert cnoell...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 My favorite snippet:

 *The Foundry's visual effects software Nuke was used to make the
 computer-generated characters in Guardians of the Galaxy look completely
 real *

 The company* has recently launched a concept design software product
 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/businessclub/technology/11206167/Harry-Potter-to-Guardians-of-the-Galaxy-the-British-firm-behind-the-Hollywood-blockbusters.html*called
 Modo, which means that prototype cars, phones and trainers can be drawn
 immediately into 3D rather than drawn first by hand in 2D and then
 physically built.


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 26, 2015, at 12:32 AM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com wrote:


 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/privateequity/11562472/Adobe-eyes-200m-bid-for-British-visual-effects-firm-The-Foundry.html


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Re: [Nuke-users] Adobe anyone?

2015-04-26 Thread Marten Blumen
IMO Adobe brings nothing to the table, except cash, in this transaction.

On 27 April 2015 at 12:08, Randy Little randyslit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes but what happens to all the technology trade deals.  Katana and Nuke
 trade,   Weta deals with Mari etc... What obstacles do those pose for
 those apps? As quite as the Foundry has been recently accept for Modo seems
 like something might already be in play.

 Randy S. Little
 http://www.rslittle.com/
 http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2325729/



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 I'd love to see Adobe win the bid.  I think there's a lot of work to be
 done leveraging all of that tech across the various apps, and a company
 like Adobe could put enough resources to make it happen where I think the
 Foundry has had enough to pull the raw ingredients together and pry these
 apps out of the studios and out into the open - but to properly merge them
 anytime soon, and mass market them correctly to maximize sales and cross
 pollination, takes possibly more muscle than they have.  Not to say that
 they couldn't get there but Adobe stepping in would kick everything into
 overdrive.

 Modo makes a TON of sense for them to finally enter the 3d market with,
 since it's got it's hooks firmly planted in the design world.

 Nuke (and Mari) would make a great base for a Photoshop rewrite.  A non
 destructive, truly float capable Photoshop that still maintains
 interactivity?  Wow.  We've all known dating back to Shake that this is a
 much better way to work, but I imagine any attempt that Apple or anyone
 else has ever made at a Photoshop killer was probably met with lots of
 patent litigation.

 Lots more could be done with Katana.  Anyone that worked at Sony knows
 it's gold.  Would be cool to see it pushed up the priority list or further
 integrated with Nuke.

 I imagine the real prize for Adobe is Modo, but I'd hope nothing happens
 to the purity of Nuke and that they wouldn't strip it for tech and then
 leave it for dead, like Avid/Apple/etc.  I had thought the future of Nuke
 was relatively safe but I suppose nothing is ever a sure thing.

 Let's hope this isn't the kiss of death.  Fusion makes me cringe (but the
 price is right!)


 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com wrote:

 That would actually be a welcome thing.
 An Adobe purchase might turn out to be a good thing in the end. It
 doesn't all need to end up like Apple buying Nothing Real. It can end up
 like Blackmagic buying Fusion. Who knows.
 R





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 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 9:11 PM, Gil Woodley gil.wood...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I see a subscription model in the future...

 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 8:02 PM, Elias Ericsson Rydberg 
 elias.ericsson.rydb...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would have loved to see Side FX aquire The Foundry.
 Den 26 apr 2015 19:59 skrev Jose Fernandez de Castro 
 pixelcowbo...@gmail.com:

 That would be really terrible news if they got acquired by Adobe...

 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I was thinking of Freehand. I loved Freehand. Took me years to get
 used to illustrator.

 R
 On 26 Apr 2015 20:16, Randy Little randyslit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Macromedia did fine after purchase accept for freehand.
 On Apr 26, 2015 1:07 PM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah, the Telegraph are spot on.

 I agree with Diogo. Hope The Foundry won't end up like
 Macromedia...



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 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Chris Noellert 
 cnoell...@gmail.com wrote:

 My favorite snippet:

 *The Foundry's visual effects software Nuke was used to make the
 computer-generated characters in Guardians of the Galaxy look 
 completely
 real *

 The company* has recently launched a concept design software
 product
 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/businessclub/technology/11206167/Harry-Potter-to-Guardians-of-the-Galaxy-the-British-firm-behind-the-Hollywood-blockbusters.html*called
 Modo, which means that prototype cars, phones and trainers can be 
 drawn
 immediately into 3D rather than drawn first by hand in 2D and then
 physically built.


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 26, 2015, at 12:32 AM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/privateequity/11562472/Adobe-eyes-200m-bid-for-British-visual-effects-firm-The-Foundry.html


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Re: [Nuke-users] Adobe anyone?

2015-04-26 Thread adam jones

they had the carlyle for that, at the very least if adobe offer nothing they 
are sympathetic and understand the industry. 

On Apr 27, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Marten Blumen mar...@gmail.com wrote:

IMO Adobe brings nothing to the table, except cash, in this transaction.

On 27 April 2015 at 12:08, Randy Little randyslit...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes but what happens to all the technology trade deals.  Katana and Nuke trade, 
  Weta deals with Mari etc...     What obstacles do those pose for those apps? 
As quite as the Foundry has been recently accept for Modo seems like something 
might already be in play.   

Randy S. Little
http://www.rslittle.com/ 
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2325729/ 




On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 6:19 PM, J Bills jbillsn...@flickfx.com wrote:
I'd love to see Adobe win the bid.  I think there's a lot of work to be done 
leveraging all of that tech across the various apps, and a company like Adobe 
could put enough resources to make it happen where I think the Foundry has had 
enough to pull the raw ingredients together and pry these apps out of the 
studios and out into the open - but to properly merge them anytime soon, and 
mass market them correctly to maximize sales and cross pollination, takes 
possibly more muscle than they have.  Not to say that they couldn't get there 
but Adobe stepping in would kick everything into overdrive.

Modo makes a TON of sense for them to finally enter the 3d market with, since 
it's got it's hooks firmly planted in the design world.

Nuke (and Mari) would make a great base for a Photoshop rewrite.  A non 
destructive, truly float capable Photoshop that still maintains interactivity?  
Wow.  We've all known dating back to Shake that this is a much better way to 
work, but I imagine any attempt that Apple or anyone else has ever made at a 
Photoshop killer was probably met with lots of patent litigation.

Lots more could be done with Katana.  Anyone that worked at Sony knows it's 
gold.  Would be cool to see it pushed up the priority list or further 
integrated with Nuke.

I imagine the real prize for Adobe is Modo, but I'd hope nothing happens to the purity of Nuke and that they wouldn't strip it for tech and then leave it for dead, like Avid/Apple/etc.  I had thought the future of Nuke was relatively safe but I suppose nothing is ever a sure thing.  


Let's hope this isn't the kiss of death.  Fusion makes me cringe (but the price 
is right!)


On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com wrote:
That would actually be a welcome thing.
An Adobe purchase might turn out to be a good thing in the end. It doesn't all 
need to end up like Apple buying Nothing Real. It can end up like Blackmagic 
buying Fusion. Who knows.
R





Ron Ganbar
email: ron...@gmail.com 
tel: +44 (0)7968 007 309 [UK]

     +972 (0)54 255 9765 [Israel]
url: http://ronganbar.wordpress.com/

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 9:11 PM, Gil Woodley gil.wood...@gmail.com wrote:
I see a subscription model in the future...

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 8:02 PM, Elias Ericsson Rydberg 
elias.ericsson.rydb...@gmail.com wrote:
I would have loved to see Side FX aquire The Foundry.
Den 26 apr 2015 19:59 skrev Jose Fernandez de Castro 
pixelcowbo...@gmail.com:
That would be really terrible news if they got acquired by Adobe...

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com wrote:
I was thinking of Freehand. I loved Freehand. Took me years to get used to 
illustrator.
R
On 26 Apr 2015 20:16, Randy Little randyslit...@gmail.com wrote:
Macromedia did fine after purchase accept for freehand. 
On Apr 26, 2015 1:07 PM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah, the Telegraph are spot on.

I agree with Diogo. Hope The Foundry won't end up like Macromedia...



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On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Chris Noellert cnoell...@gmail.com wrote:
My favorite snippet: 

The Foundry's visual effects software Nuke was used to make the 
computer-generated characters in Guardians of the Galaxy look completely real 

The company has recently launched a concept design software product called 
Modo, which means that prototype cars, phones and trainers can be drawn 
immediately into 3D rather than drawn first by hand in 2D and then physically 
built.



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On Apr 26, 2015, at 12:32 AM, Ron Ganbar ron...@gmail.com wrote:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/privateequity/11562472/Adobe-eyes-200m-bid-for-British-visual-effects-firm-The-Foundry.html 



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