[nysbirds-l] Monday/ Tuesday: North and South Forks: King Eider, Great Comorants, ducks

[Robert Taylor]

Hi Everyone,

I took a trip out to Montauk and Orient Point before the snow started.  I
didn't let the snowstorm stop me - I managed 21 species Monday - nothing
unusual except a lot of robins - they were the most abundant songbird
during the 2 days. (~120)  Of course Tuesday was the better day - I focused
on the bays and ocean. Between both days had a total of 43 species -
highlights were:

King Eider female - west of the jetty at Shinnecock Inlet
Great Comorant: 2 on the jetty tower at Lake Montauk inlet, 3 on the tower
at Shinnecock Inlet
Bonaparte Gull - by the jetty at Lake Montauk inlet
Turkeys - 4 North side of Montauk Highway by Wainscott Stone Road
Red-Winged Blackbirds - West Lake Drive, Montauk
Snow Buntings and House Finches at Orient State Park near the parking lot

Red Tailed Hawks (5) and a Sharp Shinned Hawk were along Route 48 and Route
25  - I took a pic of another raptor but need time to ID it

Although all 3 scoters and Common Eider were present around most locations,
the largest numbers I saw were definitely by Shinnecock Inlet.

Common Loons seemed to be everywhere. I tried looking for alcids at Montauk
Point but struck out.  On an odd note, I only saw 4 House Sparrows and 2
Mallards the entire trip.

Good birding,
Rob in Massapequa

http://longislandbirding.blogspot.com/
( I plan to post pics to my blog over the next few days)

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[nysbirds-l] "On the road again"

[robert adamo]

This afternoon between Calverton & Riverhead I had (6) Red-tailed Hawks,
(1) male N. Harrier, aka The Gray Ghost, 21 Horned Larks, and a Vesper
Sparrow, on Doctor's Path, as it fed along the side of the road.

Cheers,
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[nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls in the Netherlands

[leormand .]

As has been previously reported through this listserv and a Canadian blog -
some snowy owls made it onto a freighter that left NY and hugged the coast
near Canada before heading to Europe.  At least two of these birds are in
the Netherlands and are being regularly photographed - here is a link to a
photographers blog about the birds for those interested:

http://www.hansoverduin.nl/birding-in-holland/snowy-owl-2x/

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[nysbirds-l] Manhattan to Jamaica Bay

[prosbird]

See the following link

http://tripplanner.mta.info/_widgetSelector.aspx

Peter
BBC


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Re: [nysbirds-l] OT: Manhattan to Jamaica Bay via A-train

[gochfeldlaw]

Where are you starting from in Manhattan? Manhattan is 12 miles long!
 

 

 

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Sent: Tue, Feb 4, 2014 4:02 pm
Subject: [nysbirds-l] OT: Manhattan to Jamaica Bay via A-train



Hello all,



How long does it take to take the A-train from Manhattan to Jamaica Bay?


Please respond off-list directly to email above.


thanks in advance,
Matt ​




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[nysbirds-l] OT: Manhattan to Jamaica Bay via A-train

[Matthew A. Young]

Hello all,

How long does it take to take the A-train from Manhattan to Jamaica Bay?

Please respond off-list directly to email above.

thanks in advance,
Matt ?


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[nysbirds-l] Rough-legged Hawk, Northern Shrike

[Seth Ausubel]

A few hours birding the Jones Beach strip today produced a dark-morph 
Rough-legged Hawk on the marsh viewed from Gilgo, Town of Babylon, and the 
Jones Beach Northern Shrike.  The shrike was in the dunes south of the ramp 
between the eastbound Bay Parkway and the eastbound Ocean Parkway, about 1/4 
mile east of the Nature Center at West End 1.  We also saw a Snowy Owl and a 
Nothern Harrier tussling over a Black Duck carcass in the marsh between Cedar 
Beach Marina and Gilgo.  The owl won the prize.

Observers:  Seth Ausubel, Mary Normandia.

Seth Ausubel
Forest Hills, NY




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RE: [ebirdsnyc] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Kumlien's/Thayer's Gull on CP Resevoir Sunday - NO Tuesday

[Anders Peltomaa]

Hi all,
I looked for Anya's Kumlien/Thayer's gull today around noon, but it was not
to be found. The snow we received yesterday has received the loafing area
for gulls and numbers were down. All the birds present on the reservoir
were hanging around a small patch of open water around the fountain.

The only surprise was a Great Blue Heron that visited for a few minutes.

good winter birding,

Anders Peltomaa
Manhattan

‘Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.'
– Martin Luther King, Jr.
On Feb 4, 2014 12:30 PM, "Steve Walter"  wrote:

> I just did a quick, but pertinent update to my current running feature on
> adult Iceland Gull variation, to add a link to a page I posted a year ago.
> The first three pictures on that page are of an unusually dark immature
> Iceland type gull at Jones Beach – possibly what the Central Park bird
> would look like with better photos.
>
>
>
> http://www.stevewalternature.com/ , link at bottom of Iceland Gull
> article.
>
>
>
>
>
> Steve Walter
>
>
>
> *From:* bounce-112410102-8873...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:
> bounce-112410102-8873...@list.cornell.edu] *On Behalf Of *Joe Hauser
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 04, 2014 8:57 AM
> *To:* NYSbirds-L@cornell.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [ebirdsnyc] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Kumlien's/Thayer's Gull on
> CP Resevoir Sunday
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
>   As there seems to be some questions on this birds id I posted it to
> a website I belong to called whatbird.com.  While I am not qualified to
> make any kind of call on this Gull the members there enjoy these kinds of
> discussions and maybe it will help with the id.  The discussion thread can
> be found at.
> http://www.whatbird.com/forum/index.php?/topic/113547-gull-id-from-ny-listserv/
> .
>
> Joe Hauser
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Andrew Baksh 
> wrote:
>
> One of the problems I have had with this bird is the uniform instead of
> two tone contrast look with the outer primaries expected on a Thayer's.  On
> the sleeping photo, although it looks like a bleached looking individual, I
> would have a hard time not calling this bird a Thayer's type
>
>
>
> In flight it gives a different perspective and the primaries seen in
> flight does not show as dark.  However, the photos are over exposed and
> could be causing some issues here with that so I am not sure.
>
>
>
> Kumlien's range makes this a tough one to call based on these photos alone
> even if the plumage and tail band seems odd.  In addition, the variation in
> plumage of Kumlien's makes this even more intriguing and I have seen some
> photos from birds upstate this year that look very much like this one.
>
>
>
> Photos can lie so more documentation is needed on this bird and definitely
> worth tracking down. I hope it is refound and better photos presented for
> discussion.  Good luck CP birders.  Report these birds!!!  Even if it is an
> Iceland Gull, it is post worthy.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 3, 2014, at 11:31 PM, Phil Jeffrey  wrote:
>
> Real shame that didn't get reported earlier, given the ambiguous photos,
> since if that is an Iceland Gull it would be one of the darker ones I've
> seen and at first blush it has some pro-Thayer's features.  Would be worth
> tracking that one down again.
>
>
>
> (To see what I mean: Hampton's Thayeri/Kumlieni/Glaucoides scale:
> http://www.tertial.us/gulls/tkg.htm )
>
>
>
> Phil
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Andrew Baksh 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> FYI...
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From:* AA Fawkes 
> *Date:* February 3, 2014 at 10:38:58 PM EST
> *To:* 
> *Subject:* *[nysbirds-l] Kumlien's/Thayer's Gull on CP Resevoir Sunday*
> *Reply-To:* AA Fawkes 
>
> Apologies for posting late. An immature white-winged gull, possibly a
> Thayer's, was on the reservoir Sunday, along with several hundred other
> gulls and a definite Kumlien's. There has been quite a bit of debate on
> various facebook groups, and I would welcome more opinions. I'm going to
> try to re-find the bird tomorrow to get better pictures, as the ones I've
> got are distant and overexposed.
>
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/elwingflight/sets/72157640157804394/
>
>
>
> Anya Auerbach
>
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[nysbirds-l] Connetquot River SPP Main Pond

[McIntyre, Annie (LI)]

Beautiful morning and nice birds on the Main Pond.

Canada geese 25+
Mute swan 6
Ring-necked duck 25+
Gadwall  50+
Great Blue Heron  1
Black duck  17
Mallard7
American Wigeon   3
Bufflehead   2
Northern Pintail   1
Hooded Merganser 24
Common Merganser  50+
Canvasback  6
Red-necked Grebe 1 !  (don't often get them here)

Enjoy!
Annie



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[nysbirds-l] Greater white-fronted - Sunken Meadow SP, L.I.

[David La Magna]

This morning a single Greater white-fronted goose was on the mud flats west of 
the road bridge as you enter the park.  The only other thing of note is a 
single male common merganser, a species that used to be more common there.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: [ebirdsnyc] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Kumlien's/Thayer's Gull on CP Resevoir Sunday

[Steve Walter]

I just did a quick, but pertinent update to my current running feature on
adult Iceland Gull variation, to add a link to a page I posted a year ago.
The first three pictures on that page are of an unusually dark immature
Iceland type gull at Jones Beach - possibly what the Central Park bird would
look like with better photos.   

 

http://www.stevewalternature.com/ , link at bottom of Iceland Gull article.

 

 

Steve Walter

 

From: bounce-112410102-8873...@list.cornell.edu
[mailto:bounce-112410102-8873...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Joe Hauser
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 8:57 AM
To: NYSbirds-L@cornell.edu
Subject: Re: [ebirdsnyc] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Kumlien's/Thayer's Gull on CP
Resevoir Sunday

 

Hello,

  As there seems to be some questions on this birds id I posted it to a
website I belong to called whatbird.com.  While I am not qualified to make
any kind of call on this Gull the members there enjoy these kinds of
discussions and maybe it will help with the id.  The discussion thread can
be found at.
http://www.whatbird.com/forum/index.php?/topic/113547-gull-id-from-ny-listse
rv/.

Joe Hauser

 

On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:

One of the problems I have had with this bird is the uniform instead of two
tone contrast look with the outer primaries expected on a Thayer's.  On the
sleeping photo, although it looks like a bleached looking individual, I
would have a hard time not calling this bird a Thayer's type

 

In flight it gives a different perspective and the primaries seen in flight
does not show as dark.  However, the photos are over exposed and could be
causing some issues here with that so I am not sure.

 

Kumlien's range makes this a tough one to call based on these photos alone
even if the plumage and tail band seems odd.  In addition, the variation in
plumage of Kumlien's makes this even more intriguing and I have seen some
photos from birds upstate this year that look very much like this one.

 

Photos can lie so more documentation is needed on this bird and definitely
worth tracking down. I hope it is refound and better photos presented for
discussion.  Good luck CP birders.  Report these birds!!!  Even if it is an
Iceland Gull, it is post worthy.

Cheers!

 

 


On Feb 3, 2014, at 11:31 PM, Phil Jeffrey  wrote:

Real shame that didn't get reported earlier, given the ambiguous photos,
since if that is an Iceland Gull it would be one of the darker ones I've
seen and at first blush it has some pro-Thayer's features.  Would be worth
tracking that one down again.

 

(To see what I mean: Hampton's Thayeri/Kumlieni/Glaucoides scale:
http://www.tertial.us/gulls/tkg.htm )

 

Phil

 

 

On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:

  

FYI...


Begin forwarded message:

From: AA Fawkes 
Date: February 3, 2014 at 10:38:58 PM EST
To: 
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Kumlien's/Thayer's Gull on CP Resevoir Sunday
Reply-To: AA Fawkes 

Apologies for posting late. An immature white-winged gull, possibly a
Thayer's, was on the reservoir Sunday, along with several hundred other
gulls and a definite Kumlien's. There has been quite a bit of debate on
various facebook groups, and I would welcome more opinions. I'm going to try
to re-find the bird tomorrow to get better pictures, as the ones I've got
are distant and overexposed.

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/elwingflight/sets/72157640157804394/

 

Anya Auerbach

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[nysbirds-l] Greater White-fronted - Sunken Meadow, L.I.

[David La Magna]

There is a single Greater white-fronted goose on the mud flats west of the road 
bridge as you enter the park.  The only other thing of note is a single male 
common merganser, a species that used to be more common there.

Sent from my iPhone
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[nysbirds-l] Snowy Owls

[Hugh McGuinness]

Dear NY Birders,

I thought some people might enjoy Bryan Pfeiffer's essay on the
significance of this winter's Snowy Owl irruption:
http://aeon.co/magazine/nature-and-cosmos/the-snowy-owl-is-a-messenger-from-the-arctic/

Hugh

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Washington, D.C.

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Re: [ebirdsnyc] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Kumlien's/Thayer's Gull on CP Resevoir Sunday

[Joe Hauser]

Hello,
  As there seems to be some questions on this birds id I posted it to a
website I belong to called whatbird.com.  While I am not qualified to make
any kind of call on this Gull the members there enjoy these kinds of
discussions and maybe it will help with the id.  The discussion thread can
be found at.
http://www.whatbird.com/forum/index.php?/topic/113547-gull-id-from-ny-listserv/
.

Joe Hauser


On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:

> One of the problems I have had with this bird is the uniform instead of
> two tone contrast look with the outer primaries expected on a Thayer's.  On
> the sleeping photo, although it looks like a bleached looking individual, I
> would have a hard time not calling this bird a Thayer's type
>
> In flight it gives a different perspective and the primaries seen in
> flight does not show as dark.  However, the photos are over exposed and
> could be causing some issues here with that so I am not sure.
>
> Kumlien's range makes this a tough one to call based on these photos alone
> even if the plumage and tail band seems odd.  In addition, the variation in
> plumage of Kumlien's makes this even more intriguing and I have seen some
> photos from birds upstate this year that look very much like this one.
>
> Photos can lie so more documentation is needed on this bird and definitely
> worth tracking down. I hope it is refound and better photos presented for
> discussion.  Good luck CP birders.  Report these birds!!!  Even if it is an
> Iceland Gull, it is post worthy.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
>
> On Feb 3, 2014, at 11:31 PM, Phil Jeffrey  wrote:
>
> Real shame that didn't get reported earlier, given the ambiguous photos,
> since if that is an Iceland Gull it would be one of the darker ones I've
> seen and at first blush it has some pro-Thayer's features.  Would be worth
> tracking that one down again.
>
> (To see what I mean: Hampton's Thayeri/Kumlieni/Glaucoides scale:
> http://www.tertial.us/gulls/tkg.htm )
>
> Phil
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Andrew Baksh wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> FYI...
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> *From:* AA Fawkes 
>> *Date:* February 3, 2014 at 10:38:58 PM EST
>> *To:* 
>> *Subject:* *[nysbirds-l] Kumlien's/Thayer's Gull on CP Resevoir Sunday*
>> *Reply-To:* AA Fawkes 
>>
>> Apologies for posting late. An immature white-winged gull, possibly a
>> Thayer's, was on the reservoir Sunday, along with several hundred other
>> gulls and a definite Kumlien's. There has been quite a bit of debate on
>> various facebook groups, and I would welcome more opinions. I'm going to
>> try to re-find the bird tomorrow to get better pictures, as the ones I've
>> got are distant and overexposed.
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/elwingflight/sets/72157640157804394/
>>
>> Anya Auerbach
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Re: [ebirdsnyc] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Kumlien's/Thayer's Gull on CP Resevoir Sunday

[Andrew Baksh]

One of the problems I have had with this bird is the uniform instead of two 
tone contrast look with the outer primaries expected on a Thayer's.  On the 
sleeping photo, although it looks like a bleached looking individual, I would 
have a hard time not calling this bird a Thayer's type

In flight it gives a different perspective and the primaries seen in flight 
does not show as dark.  However, the photos are over exposed and could be 
causing some issues here with that so I am not sure.

Kumlien's range makes this a tough one to call based on these photos alone even 
if the plumage and tail band seems odd.  In addition, the variation in plumage 
of Kumlien's makes this even more intriguing and I have seen some photos from 
birds upstate this year that look very much like this one.

Photos can lie so more documentation is needed on this bird and definitely 
worth tracking down. I hope it is refound and better photos presented for 
discussion.  Good luck CP birders.  Report these birds!!!  Even if it is an 
Iceland Gull, it is post worthy.

Cheers!



> On Feb 3, 2014, at 11:31 PM, Phil Jeffrey  wrote:
> 
> Real shame that didn't get reported earlier, given the ambiguous photos, 
> since if that is an Iceland Gull it would be one of the darker ones I've seen 
> and at first blush it has some pro-Thayer's features.  Would be worth 
> tracking that one down again.
> 
> (To see what I mean: Hampton's Thayeri/Kumlieni/Glaucoides scale: 
> http://www.tertial.us/gulls/tkg.htm )
> 
> Phil
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:
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>> FYI...
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>>> From: AA Fawkes 
>>> Date: February 3, 2014 at 10:38:58 PM EST
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Kumlien's/Thayer's Gull on CP Resevoir Sunday
>>> Reply-To: AA Fawkes 
>>> 
>>> Apologies for posting late. An immature white-winged gull, possibly a 
>>> Thayer's, was on the reservoir Sunday, along with several hundred other 
>>> gulls and a definite Kumlien's. There has been quite a bit of debate on 
>>> various facebook groups, and I would welcome more opinions. I'm going to 
>>> try to re-find the bird tomorrow to get better pictures, as the ones I've 
>>> got are distant and overexposed.
>>> 
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/elwingflight/sets/72157640157804394/
>>> 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Kumlien's/Thayer's Gull on CP Resevoir Sunday

[Hugh McGuinness]

Anya,

I agree that this is a good candidate for Thayer's b/c of the strong
crescents on the primary tips, the strong tail band and the overall color.
I would love to be able to see the bill, head shape and size in comparison
to Herring Gull to be sure.

Hugh


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> Apologies for posting late. An immature white-winged gull, possibly a
> Thayer's, was on the reservoir Sunday, along with several hundred other
> gulls and a definite Kumlien's. There has been quite a bit of debate on
> various facebook groups, and I would welcome more opinions. I'm going to
> try to re-find the bird tomorrow to get better pictures, as the ones I've
> got are distant and overexposed.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/elwingflight/sets/72157640157804394/
>
> Anya Auerbach
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Re: [ebirdsnyc] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Kumlien's/Thayer's Gull on CP Resevoir Sunday

[Andrew Baksh]

One of the problems I have had with this bird is the uniform instead of two 
tone contrast look with the outer primaries expected on a Thayer's.  On the 
sleeping photo, although it looks like a bleached looking individual, I would 
have a hard time not calling this bird a Thayer's type

In flight it gives a different perspective and the primaries seen in flight 
does not show as dark.  However, the photos are over exposed and could be 
causing some issues here with that so I am not sure.

Kumlien's range makes this a tough one to call based on these photos alone even 
if the plumage and tail band seems odd.  In addition, the variation in plumage 
of Kumlien's makes this even more intriguing and I have seen some photos from 
birds upstate this year that look very much like this one.

Photos can lie so more documentation is needed on this bird and definitely 
worth tracking down. I hope it is refound and better photos presented for 
discussion.  Good luck CP birders.  Report these birds!!!  Even if it is an 
Iceland Gull, it is post worthy.

Cheers!



 On Feb 3, 2014, at 11:31 PM, Phil Jeffrey phil.jeff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Real shame that didn't get reported earlier, given the ambiguous photos, 
 since if that is an Iceland Gull it would be one of the darker ones I've seen 
 and at first blush it has some pro-Thayer's features.  Would be worth 
 tracking that one down again.
 
 (To see what I mean: Hampton's Thayeri/Kumlieni/Glaucoides scale: 
 http://www.tertial.us/gulls/tkg.htm )
 
 Phil
 
 
 
 On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Andrew Baksh birdingd...@gmail.com wrote:
  
 FYI...
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: AA Fawkes aafaw...@gmail.com
 Date: February 3, 2014 at 10:38:58 PM EST
 To: NYSbirds-L@cornell.edu
 Subject: [nysbirds-l] Kumlien's/Thayer's Gull on CP Resevoir Sunday
 Reply-To: AA Fawkes aafaw...@gmail.com
 
 Apologies for posting late. An immature white-winged gull, possibly a 
 Thayer's, was on the reservoir Sunday, along with several hundred other 
 gulls and a definite Kumlien's. There has been quite a bit of debate on 
 various facebook groups, and I would welcome more opinions. I'm going to 
 try to re-find the bird tomorrow to get better pictures, as the ones I've 
 got are distant and overexposed.
 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/elwingflight/sets/72157640157804394/
 
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