Re: [nysbirds-l] [GeneseeBirds-L] Limpkin - Niagara County

2022-11-18 Thread ArieGilbert
Larry et al,The fact that so many are willing to travel so far to share in this 
experience is a VERY strong argument for conservation, and should not be 
ignored.  Lehman and others have produced positive economic impact studies 
showing the benefit of a rarity showing up. While our carbon footprint is of 
concern, I wish you would refrain from urinating on our parade, some of us get 
a tremendous amount of joy experiencing nature, even if it means a epic journey 
by car.  So don't fly for a vacation, because air travel is far worse than car 
emissions and so on.  Or kill bird tourism too while you're at it.  I believe 
your heart is in the right place, but we must still weigh the positives vs the 
negatives. Apologies to any list members who found this message distasteful. 
Arie Gilbert North Babylon NYPowerbirder, or at least still trying to be. Sent 
from my T-Mobile 5G Device
 Original message From: Trachlar  Date: 
11/18/22  12:24 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Willie D'Anna  
Cc: geneseebirds , Geneseebirds 
, NYSBirds  
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] [GeneseeBirds-L] Limpkin - Niagara County Thank you 
for updates and your efforts in rescuing this bird. I know Limpkin is a rarity 
outside of FL but I still question the carbon footprint of driving 10 hours or 
so (RT) to see a single bird to add to a State list. (I did notice a few folks 
bussed up from NYC; very commendable.)  Now if you were vacationing in Buffalo 
in mid November that’s a different story (on many fronts).  BestL. Trachtenberg 
OssiningSent from my iPhoneOn Nov 18, 2022, at 12:15 PM, Willie D'Anna 
 wrote:I just wanted to give a heads up that there is a plan to capture the Limpkin 
as soon as possible, with people currently on site. I am sorry for people who 
might be on their way now but this turned out to be the best time for the 
rehabbers and, with the weather, probably for the bird as well. When I hear 
more, I will post what I know. Willie From: geneseebird...@geneseo.edu 
[mailto:geneseebird...@geneseo.edu] On Behalf Of Willie D'AnnaSent: Friday, 
November 18, 2022 9:58 AMTo: 'geneseebirds'; 'Geneseebirds'; 'NYSBirds'Subject: 
[GeneseeBirds-L] Limpkin - Niagara County The Limpkin in Lewiston, along the 
Niagara River, was seen throughout the day yesterday and was there again this 
morning. It is sticking to a very small area – a linear strip about 50 yards 
long. If you don’t see it, just carefully check the weeds at the base of the 
slope for any movement. It can really hide in there! If you have not seen the 
bird by now, unfortunately, your opportunity may soon be over. I know this will 
be disappointing/upsetting to those who have had no chance to chase it during 
the week and were waiting for the weekend. Although there may be disagreement 
on whether or not humans should intervene, there is strong consensus among 
people that I have talked with that the health of this bird should be the 
primary consideration. A rehabilitator has been alerted who is willing to 
transport the bird to Florida. Although the bird seems fine now, we know how 
quickly things can change. We are fairly certain from past experience (the 
Anhinga near Rochester), that this bird will not simply leave when things get 
really bad for it. Therefore, its capture may come sooner rather than later. 
Capturing a healthy bird often results in a better outcome than capturing one 
that is already unwell. Please don’t ask me exactly when this will occur 
because I don’t know. It could be today. We will continue to monitor the 
Limpkin and try to assess its condition, as well as watch what the weather is 
or will be doing. The snowstorm in Buffalo is horrendous right now and there is 
a driving ban in parts of Buffalo and the suburbs. Nobody should be driving 
into or close to the city to see this bird. If you are coming from the east, go 
through Rochester and come along Lake Ontario, then back south to Lewiston. The 
coordinates are 43.173805, -79.049374 Mapped pin: 
https://goo.gl/maps/CyuEbPmWpmwBt1DL8  This is below the cliff, down at river 
level. You must park above at street level and take the stairs down. For those 
who have difficulty walking, you can be driven down and let off at water level. 
Look for the blue-gray building that says “harbor master” over one of the 
doors. Next to it is a blue-gray shed. The weeds that it was hanging out in all 
afternoon on Tuesday are between those two buildings, which are only 15 feet 
apart. The bird sometimes moves behind one of the buildings but you can usually 
find it by moving around. It is close, only 30 feet or so away, though usually 
obscured or made invisible by weeds, and does not seem particularly concerned 
about people. However, please do not surround it, as it does sometimes like to 
come out into the open. I suggest that people stay off the grass in order to 
give it some space. You will still get great views. PLEASE NOTE: If anyone 
notices the bird showing concerning behavior, such as 

Re: [nysbirds-l] [GeneseeBirds-L] Limpkin - Niagara County

2022-11-18 Thread ArieGilbert
Larry et al,The fact that so many are willing to travel so far to share in this 
experience is a VERY strong argument for conservation, and should not be 
ignored.  Lehman and others have produced positive economic impact studies 
showing the benefit of a rarity showing up. While our carbon footprint is of 
concern, I wish you would refrain from urinating on our parade, some of us get 
a tremendous amount of joy experiencing nature, even if it means a epic journey 
by car.  So don't fly for a vacation, because air travel is far worse than car 
emissions and so on.  Or kill bird tourism too while you're at it.  I believe 
your heart is in the right place, but we must still weigh the positives vs the 
negatives. Apologies to any list members who found this message distasteful. 
Arie Gilbert North Babylon NYPowerbirder, or at least still trying to be. Sent 
from my T-Mobile 5G Device
 Original message From: Trachlar  Date: 
11/18/22  12:24 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Willie D'Anna  
Cc: geneseebirds , Geneseebirds 
, NYSBirds  
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] [GeneseeBirds-L] Limpkin - Niagara County Thank you 
for updates and your efforts in rescuing this bird. I know Limpkin is a rarity 
outside of FL but I still question the carbon footprint of driving 10 hours or 
so (RT) to see a single bird to add to a State list. (I did notice a few folks 
bussed up from NYC; very commendable.)  Now if you were vacationing in Buffalo 
in mid November that’s a different story (on many fronts).  BestL. Trachtenberg 
OssiningSent from my iPhoneOn Nov 18, 2022, at 12:15 PM, Willie D'Anna 
 wrote:I just wanted to give a heads up that there is a plan to capture the Limpkin 
as soon as possible, with people currently on site. I am sorry for people who 
might be on their way now but this turned out to be the best time for the 
rehabbers and, with the weather, probably for the bird as well. When I hear 
more, I will post what I know. Willie From: geneseebird...@geneseo.edu 
[mailto:geneseebird...@geneseo.edu] On Behalf Of Willie D'AnnaSent: Friday, 
November 18, 2022 9:58 AMTo: 'geneseebirds'; 'Geneseebirds'; 'NYSBirds'Subject: 
[GeneseeBirds-L] Limpkin - Niagara County The Limpkin in Lewiston, along the 
Niagara River, was seen throughout the day yesterday and was there again this 
morning. It is sticking to a very small area – a linear strip about 50 yards 
long. If you don’t see it, just carefully check the weeds at the base of the 
slope for any movement. It can really hide in there! If you have not seen the 
bird by now, unfortunately, your opportunity may soon be over. I know this will 
be disappointing/upsetting to those who have had no chance to chase it during 
the week and were waiting for the weekend. Although there may be disagreement 
on whether or not humans should intervene, there is strong consensus among 
people that I have talked with that the health of this bird should be the 
primary consideration. A rehabilitator has been alerted who is willing to 
transport the bird to Florida. Although the bird seems fine now, we know how 
quickly things can change. We are fairly certain from past experience (the 
Anhinga near Rochester), that this bird will not simply leave when things get 
really bad for it. Therefore, its capture may come sooner rather than later. 
Capturing a healthy bird often results in a better outcome than capturing one 
that is already unwell. Please don’t ask me exactly when this will occur 
because I don’t know. It could be today. We will continue to monitor the 
Limpkin and try to assess its condition, as well as watch what the weather is 
or will be doing. The snowstorm in Buffalo is horrendous right now and there is 
a driving ban in parts of Buffalo and the suburbs. Nobody should be driving 
into or close to the city to see this bird. If you are coming from the east, go 
through Rochester and come along Lake Ontario, then back south to Lewiston. The 
coordinates are 43.173805, -79.049374 Mapped pin: 
https://goo.gl/maps/CyuEbPmWpmwBt1DL8  This is below the cliff, down at river 
level. You must park above at street level and take the stairs down. For those 
who have difficulty walking, you can be driven down and let off at water level. 
Look for the blue-gray building that says “harbor master” over one of the 
doors. Next to it is a blue-gray shed. The weeds that it was hanging out in all 
afternoon on Tuesday are between those two buildings, which are only 15 feet 
apart. The bird sometimes moves behind one of the buildings but you can usually 
find it by moving around. It is close, only 30 feet or so away, though usually 
obscured or made invisible by weeds, and does not seem particularly concerned 
about people. However, please do not surround it, as it does sometimes like to 
come out into the open. I suggest that people stay off the grass in order to 
give it some space. You will still get great views. PLEASE NOTE: If anyone 
notices the bird showing concerning behavior, such as 

RE: [nysbirds-l] RWSW Not yet

2021-04-23 Thread ArieGilbert
I went in search of the VG er, Violet-green Swallow, and did not catch up 
with it - though I did catch up with Richard Guthrie.Most if not all of us like 
short cuts, which include banding codes. They may serve banders well who use 
them professionally and are intimately familiar with that group’s vernacular, 
but for others, it can ( and obviously does ) lead to discord. I admit that at 
times being stumped by a code whose meaning escapes me. While there may have 
been temporary frustration, speaking for myself it does not foment much ado. To 
me, its no different to throw a HERG into the text, as it is to throw in the 
terms remiges, or patagial bar. I can look it up, because I have an interest in 
birds and birding and it’s a learning experience. When I am unfamiliar with a 
term I used to look it up in the dictionary. Now, all I have to do is 
double-click to highlight the word, right-click on it, and select “ search 
google for (the word)”.  For band codes, I use the Sibley app when necessary. 
It allows one to search for a bird by band code. Mystery solved.   Yeah, 
spelling mistakes, grammatical errors, and incorrect band codes etc can 
interrupt the cognitive flow, but I suspect that some do not want to be 
‘inconvenienced’ by having to do such odious work as ‘looking it up’ or knowing 
that the author used the wrong choice between they’re, their, or there. Oh 
well. In lieu of band codes I have found simple abbreviations to work as well 
if not better in saving my lazy self from the tortuous chore of spelling out 
the complete name. W pel may be easier than AWPE, for example. At other times I 
have found that 3-3 is better than the standard 2-2 of band codes. BarSwa and 
BanSwa eliminates one of many collisions that are inevitable, and only requires 
2 more letters typed!  Even the spoken word has room for simplification; one 
might say “Rough-wing” instead of Northern Rough-winged Swallow or “Moe Doe” 
instead of Mourning Dove. I enjoy the portmanteau and find that Redhatch rolls 
off the tongue so much better than Red-breasted Nuthatch; as does Americrow, 
Rublet, and many others. So while an erroneous band code may be upsetting to 
some, trust me, its nowhere near as upsetting as attempting to relocate that 
swallow several hours distant and not succeeding. At least peak migration is 
just around the corner!Arie Gilbert North Babylon NY Sent from my T-Mobile 5G 
Device
 Original message From: Richard Guthrie 
 Date: 4/22/21  2:44 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: NYSBIRDS_L 
, Hmbirds  Subject: [nysbirds-l] 
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RE: [nysbirds-l] RWSW Not yet

2021-04-23 Thread ArieGilbert
I went in search of the VG er, Violet-green Swallow, and did not catch up 
with it - though I did catch up with Richard Guthrie.Most if not all of us like 
short cuts, which include banding codes. They may serve banders well who use 
them professionally and are intimately familiar with that group’s vernacular, 
but for others, it can ( and obviously does ) lead to discord. I admit that at 
times being stumped by a code whose meaning escapes me. While there may have 
been temporary frustration, speaking for myself it does not foment much ado. To 
me, its no different to throw a HERG into the text, as it is to throw in the 
terms remiges, or patagial bar. I can look it up, because I have an interest in 
birds and birding and it’s a learning experience. When I am unfamiliar with a 
term I used to look it up in the dictionary. Now, all I have to do is 
double-click to highlight the word, right-click on it, and select “ search 
google for (the word)”.  For band codes, I use the Sibley app when necessary. 
It allows one to search for a bird by band code. Mystery solved.   Yeah, 
spelling mistakes, grammatical errors, and incorrect band codes etc can 
interrupt the cognitive flow, but I suspect that some do not want to be 
‘inconvenienced’ by having to do such odious work as ‘looking it up’ or knowing 
that the author used the wrong choice between they’re, their, or there. Oh 
well. In lieu of band codes I have found simple abbreviations to work as well 
if not better in saving my lazy self from the tortuous chore of spelling out 
the complete name. W pel may be easier than AWPE, for example. At other times I 
have found that 3-3 is better than the standard 2-2 of band codes. BarSwa and 
BanSwa eliminates one of many collisions that are inevitable, and only requires 
2 more letters typed!  Even the spoken word has room for simplification; one 
might say “Rough-wing” instead of Northern Rough-winged Swallow or “Moe Doe” 
instead of Mourning Dove. I enjoy the portmanteau and find that Redhatch rolls 
off the tongue so much better than Red-breasted Nuthatch; as does Americrow, 
Rublet, and many others. So while an erroneous band code may be upsetting to 
some, trust me, its nowhere near as upsetting as attempting to relocate that 
swallow several hours distant and not succeeding. At least peak migration is 
just around the corner!Arie Gilbert North Babylon NY Sent from my T-Mobile 5G 
Device
 Original message From: Richard Guthrie 
 Date: 4/22/21  2:44 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: NYSBIRDS_L 
, Hmbirds  Subject: [nysbirds-l] 
RWSW Not yet Several birders here. No swallow Yet Rich Guthrie--NYSbirds-L List 
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Ferruginous Hawk sightings?

2021-01-21 Thread ArieGilbert
There is a report of its presence currently on celery. Sent from my T-Mobile 4G 
LTE Device
 Original message From: John Collins  
Date: 1/21/21  10:49 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu Subject: 
[nysbirds-l] Ferruginous Hawk sightings? Has anyone seen the Ferruginous Hawk 
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Ferruginous Hawk sightings?

2021-01-21 Thread ArieGilbert
There is a report of its presence currently on celery. Sent from my T-Mobile 4G 
LTE Device
 Original message From: John Collins  
Date: 1/21/21  10:49 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu Subject: 
[nysbirds-l] Ferruginous Hawk sightings? Has anyone seen the Ferruginous Hawk 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk Orange co.

2021-01-19 Thread ArieGilbert
It is good to know no one behaved badly. Very good. But it has happened in this 
region in the past. Egregiously. You were asked to leave because of *what 
-others- did in the past.*  I am not privy to the private or not status of this 
particular road,  but I know of similar conflicts elsewhere where the road is 
absolutely not private. This is what happens to the well behaved following 
those who do not and piss off the locals.  And so it goes.  Arie Gilbert Sent 
from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
 Original message From: Dawn Hannay  Date: 
1/19/21  1:46 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: ArieGilbert  Cc: 
Trachlar , Isaac Weiss , Adrian Burke 
, "Groups.io" 
, NYSBIRDS-L 
 Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk 
Orange co. According to GPS maps, the road everyone was on is Cedar Swamp Road. 
Nobody was running into farm fields, blocking farm vehicles or the like. 
Everyone was respectful and polite. The landowner in question indicated that 
the entire road is private and asked everyone to leave, which we did.  I think 
the question is whether Cedar Swamp Road itself is a public or private road. 
There is no signage indicating it is private, so if it is, birders need to 
know. Dawn HannaySent from my iPhoneOn Jan 19, 2021, at 1:36 PM, ArieGilbert 
 wrote:A problem not unique to this area is birders 
blocking or impeding traffic, trespassing onto property like a farm field, 
irrespective of signage ( if in doubt, *don't* ) blocking driveways,  and being 
less than nice to the residents when they inquire about your presence or 
intentions. If you interact with locals be polite and share your 
excitement.There are farmers who are working and blocking their way is 
understandably irritating to them.  If you see vehicles coming your way,  move 
*before* they have to slow down or wait. If a problem is avoided, future 
visitors will be welcome.OTOH, a jerk will ruin it for all who arrive later.  
And you will be told the roads are private or closed off. In the recent past 
people were running across farm fields to get photos.  If only telephoto lenses 
existed...In western states, trespassing would get you shot first.  An 
effective deterrent. So let's all enjoy the birds AND behave like civilized 
adults. Arie Gilbert. Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original 
message From: Trachlar  Date: 1/19/21  12:53 PM  
(GMT-05:00) To: Isaac Weiss  Cc: Adrian Burke 
, "Groups.io" 
, NYSBIRDS-L 
 Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk 
Orange co. I realize at least from what I have read (e.g. with a homeowner on 
the road w the “Camel Farm” (Rte 62) and Mission Land Road) that there have 
been issues between property owners in the black dirt region and birders. 
Obviously owners have a right in this Country to keep folks off their property 
(the means used is another issue). Cedar Swamp Road seems to run about 2.7 
miles, may I ask what makes the road itself a “private” road?  L. Trachtenberg 
Ossining“The white man made us many promises, more than I can remember, but 
they only kept but one, they promised to take our land, and they took it.”Red 
CloudOglala LakotaSent from my iPhoneOn Jan 19, 2021, at 11:59 AM, Isaac Weiss 
 wrote:Thank Adrian for the constant updates.I just met 
one of the owners of the properties around here and he asked not to drive on 
cedar swamp Rd. He said it is a private road.Celery is a public Rd.Thank you 
allAri On Tue, Jan 19, 2021, 11:49 AM Adrian Burke  
wrote:FEHA has flown to tree alongside Pulaski Hwy btwn Pumpkin Swamp and 
Maloney LnEl El mar, ene. 19, 2021 a la(s) 9:25 a. m., Adrian Burke 
 escribió:Not sure as the bird is distant (forgive me if 
it’s just a Red-tailed) but I have a seemingly good candidate for the 
Ferruginous Hawk sitting in a field here (41.3627576, -74.3899335) seen from 
here (41.3635432, -74.3887804). Face and base of tail seem rather pale,  
limited white on scapulars. Can’t see gape, tarsi, or belly. Have some terrible 
digiscope shots. Will keep updated. Adrian BurkeNYC



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Re: [nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk Orange co.

2021-01-19 Thread ArieGilbert
It is good to know no one behaved badly. Very good. But it has happened in this 
region in the past. Egregiously. You were asked to leave because of *what 
-others- did in the past.*  I am not privy to the private or not status of this 
particular road,  but I know of similar conflicts elsewhere where the road is 
absolutely not private. This is what happens to the well behaved following 
those who do not and piss off the locals.  And so it goes.  Arie Gilbert Sent 
from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
 Original message From: Dawn Hannay  Date: 
1/19/21  1:46 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: ArieGilbert  Cc: 
Trachlar , Isaac Weiss , Adrian Burke 
, "Groups.io" 
, NYSBIRDS-L 
 Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk 
Orange co. According to GPS maps, the road everyone was on is Cedar Swamp Road. 
Nobody was running into farm fields, blocking farm vehicles or the like. 
Everyone was respectful and polite. The landowner in question indicated that 
the entire road is private and asked everyone to leave, which we did.  I think 
the question is whether Cedar Swamp Road itself is a public or private road. 
There is no signage indicating it is private, so if it is, birders need to 
know. Dawn HannaySent from my iPhoneOn Jan 19, 2021, at 1:36 PM, ArieGilbert 
 wrote:A problem not unique to this area is birders 
blocking or impeding traffic, trespassing onto property like a farm field, 
irrespective of signage ( if in doubt, *don't* ) blocking driveways,  and being 
less than nice to the residents when they inquire about your presence or 
intentions. If you interact with locals be polite and share your 
excitement.There are farmers who are working and blocking their way is 
understandably irritating to them.  If you see vehicles coming your way,  move 
*before* they have to slow down or wait. If a problem is avoided, future 
visitors will be welcome.OTOH, a jerk will ruin it for all who arrive later.  
And you will be told the roads are private or closed off. In the recent past 
people were running across farm fields to get photos.  If only telephoto lenses 
existed...In western states, trespassing would get you shot first.  An 
effective deterrent. So let's all enjoy the birds AND behave like civilized 
adults. Arie Gilbert. Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original 
message From: Trachlar  Date: 1/19/21  12:53 PM  
(GMT-05:00) To: Isaac Weiss  Cc: Adrian Burke 
, "Groups.io" 
, NYSBIRDS-L 
 Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk 
Orange co. I realize at least from what I have read (e.g. with a homeowner on 
the road w the “Camel Farm” (Rte 62) and Mission Land Road) that there have 
been issues between property owners in the black dirt region and birders. 
Obviously owners have a right in this Country to keep folks off their property 
(the means used is another issue). Cedar Swamp Road seems to run about 2.7 
miles, may I ask what makes the road itself a “private” road?  L. Trachtenberg 
Ossining“The white man made us many promises, more than I can remember, but 
they only kept but one, they promised to take our land, and they took it.”Red 
CloudOglala LakotaSent from my iPhoneOn Jan 19, 2021, at 11:59 AM, Isaac Weiss 
 wrote:Thank Adrian for the constant updates.I just met 
one of the owners of the properties around here and he asked not to drive on 
cedar swamp Rd. He said it is a private road.Celery is a public Rd.Thank you 
allAri On Tue, Jan 19, 2021, 11:49 AM Adrian Burke  
wrote:FEHA has flown to tree alongside Pulaski Hwy btwn Pumpkin Swamp and 
Maloney LnEl El mar, ene. 19, 2021 a la(s) 9:25 a. m., Adrian Burke 
 escribió:Not sure as the bird is distant (forgive me if 
it’s just a Red-tailed) but I have a seemingly good candidate for the 
Ferruginous Hawk sitting in a field here (41.3627576, -74.3899335) seen from 
here (41.3635432, -74.3887804). Face and base of tail seem rather pale,  
limited white on scapulars. Can’t see gape, tarsi, or belly. Have some terrible 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk Orange co.

2021-01-19 Thread ArieGilbert
A problem not unique to this area is birders blocking or impeding traffic, 
trespassing onto property like a farm field, irrespective of signage ( if in 
doubt, *don't* ) blocking driveways,  and being less than nice to the residents 
when they inquire about your presence or intentions. If you interact with 
locals be polite and share your excitement.There are farmers who are working 
and blocking their way is understandably irritating to them.  If you see 
vehicles coming your way,  move *before* they have to slow down or wait. If a 
problem is avoided, future visitors will be welcome.OTOH, a jerk will ruin it 
for all who arrive later.  And you will be told the roads are private or closed 
off. In the recent past people were running across farm fields to get photos.  
If only telephoto lenses existed...In western states, trespassing would get you 
shot first.  An effective deterrent. So let's all enjoy the birds AND behave 
like civilized adults. Arie Gilbert. Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
 Original message From: Trachlar  Date: 
1/19/21  12:53 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Isaac Weiss  Cc: Adrian 
Burke , "Groups.io" 
, NYSBIRDS-L 
 Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk 
Orange co. I realize at least from what I have read (e.g. with a homeowner on 
the road w the “Camel Farm” (Rte 62) and Mission Land Road) that there have 
been issues between property owners in the black dirt region and birders. 
Obviously owners have a right in this Country to keep folks off their property 
(the means used is another issue). Cedar Swamp Road seems to run about 2.7 
miles, may I ask what makes the road itself a “private” road?  L. Trachtenberg 
Ossining“The white man made us many promises, more than I can remember, but 
they only kept but one, they promised to take our land, and they took it.”Red 
CloudOglala LakotaSent from my iPhoneOn Jan 19, 2021, at 11:59 AM, Isaac Weiss 
 wrote:Thank Adrian for the constant updates.I just met 
one of the owners of the properties around here and he asked not to drive on 
cedar swamp Rd. He said it is a private road.Celery is a public Rd.Thank you 
allAri On Tue, Jan 19, 2021, 11:49 AM Adrian Burke  
wrote:FEHA has flown to tree alongside Pulaski Hwy btwn Pumpkin Swamp and 
Maloney LnEl El mar, ene. 19, 2021 a la(s) 9:25 a. m., Adrian Burke 
 escribió:Not sure as the bird is distant (forgive me if 
it’s just a Red-tailed) but I have a seemingly good candidate for the 
Ferruginous Hawk sitting in a field here (41.3627576, -74.3899335) seen from 
here (41.3635432, -74.3887804). Face and base of tail seem rather pale,  
limited white on scapulars. Can’t see gape, tarsi, or belly. Have some terrible 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk Orange co.

2021-01-19 Thread ArieGilbert
A problem not unique to this area is birders blocking or impeding traffic, 
trespassing onto property like a farm field, irrespective of signage ( if in 
doubt, *don't* ) blocking driveways,  and being less than nice to the residents 
when they inquire about your presence or intentions. If you interact with 
locals be polite and share your excitement.There are farmers who are working 
and blocking their way is understandably irritating to them.  If you see 
vehicles coming your way,  move *before* they have to slow down or wait. If a 
problem is avoided, future visitors will be welcome.OTOH, a jerk will ruin it 
for all who arrive later.  And you will be told the roads are private or closed 
off. In the recent past people were running across farm fields to get photos.  
If only telephoto lenses existed...In western states, trespassing would get you 
shot first.  An effective deterrent. So let's all enjoy the birds AND behave 
like civilized adults. Arie Gilbert. Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
 Original message From: Trachlar  Date: 
1/19/21  12:53 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Isaac Weiss  Cc: Adrian 
Burke , "Groups.io" 
, NYSBIRDS-L 
 Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Possible Ferruginous Hawk 
Orange co. I realize at least from what I have read (e.g. with a homeowner on 
the road w the “Camel Farm” (Rte 62) and Mission Land Road) that there have 
been issues between property owners in the black dirt region and birders. 
Obviously owners have a right in this Country to keep folks off their property 
(the means used is another issue). Cedar Swamp Road seems to run about 2.7 
miles, may I ask what makes the road itself a “private” road?  L. Trachtenberg 
Ossining“The white man made us many promises, more than I can remember, but 
they only kept but one, they promised to take our land, and they took it.”Red 
CloudOglala LakotaSent from my iPhoneOn Jan 19, 2021, at 11:59 AM, Isaac Weiss 
 wrote:Thank Adrian for the constant updates.I just met 
one of the owners of the properties around here and he asked not to drive on 
cedar swamp Rd. He said it is a private road.Celery is a public Rd.Thank you 
allAri On Tue, Jan 19, 2021, 11:49 AM Adrian Burke  
wrote:FEHA has flown to tree alongside Pulaski Hwy btwn Pumpkin Swamp and 
Maloney LnEl El mar, ene. 19, 2021 a la(s) 9:25 a. m., Adrian Burke 
 escribió:Not sure as the bird is distant (forgive me if 
it’s just a Red-tailed) but I have a seemingly good candidate for the 
Ferruginous Hawk sitting in a field here (41.3627576, -74.3899335) seen from 
here (41.3635432, -74.3887804). Face and base of tail seem rather pale,  
limited white on scapulars. Can’t see gape, tarsi, or belly. Have some terrible 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] N.Y. County (NYC), 1/10 & prior days: L. B.-b. Gull, 2 W. Tanagers, E. Phoebe, etc.

2021-01-11 Thread ArieGilbert
Liam et alInnocuous  reminders of ethics by Tom is not the issue. The vitriol 
against those who post photos of owls, or pass along their location as a 
consequence is the problem. Time and again I have witnessed amateur 
photographers ( despite possessing rather expensive equipment) crowd and or 
chase owls, and some nitwits cut branches to get better shots. There are bad 
actors who result in limited publicity of these birds and Gus may frustrate 
them. And they may take this frustration out on him. It has been laughable to 
me to see people railing against others getting too close to an owl in central 
park, while non birders were walking much closer, talking loudly, and had dogs 
in tow. ...perspective...FWIW birding Bob in my estimation overuses tape. But 
it annoys birders FAR more than any perceived  injury to the birds. I wish 
people behaved better, but they don't. It would be great if we didn't have to 
worry about the ill informed doing harm, but thats the reality. I myself was 
berated by an random adjacent birder who chastised me for using a laser to 
point out a bird. The beam was nowhere near the bird, but he felt strongly that 
i was going to blind it. No. Not at all. People need to chill.  I hope that 
Gus's fears and issues are unfounded, but nowadays,  probably not.  Gus: sorry 
to hear it. Tom is really not the issue though IMHO. Arie Gilbert Sent from my 
T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
 Original message From: Liam Brock  Date: 
1/11/21  10:13 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: Gus Keri  Cc: Thomas Fiore 
, NYS Birds  Subject: Re: 
[nysbirds-l] N.Y. County (NYC), 1/10 & prior days: L. B.-b. Gull, 2 W. 
Tanagers, E. Phoebe, etc. Just so I understand the position you're taking here, 
Gus—you truly believe that someone posting innocuous ethics reminders at the 
end of listserv emails is radicalizing people and putting you in danger?On Mon, 
Jan 11, 2021, 9:59 AM Gus Keri  wrote:I think the moderators 
of this list should learn from what happened in Washington DC on Wednesday and 
block Mr. Thomas Fiore from posting on this list ever again. (or at least ask 
him to change his style)

Here is why.

After I joined this list, I became fond of his emails because of the valuable 
info he provides about the birds of Manhattan. I also noted that at the end of 
every email he thanks the birders who follow birding ethics focusing on few 
issues: minimizing disturbance to birds, not playing recorder and not 
disclosing roost location. 

At the beginning it didn’t bother me and I reached a point when I stopped 
reading that paragraph. 
But lately, it started to bother me because I found out that when you repeat 
certain “propaganda” over and over and over again, it will lead to 
radicalization of people. 

Ask President Trump about that. 

I remember when Mr. Robert DeCandido wrote an email telling people that he was 
assaulted by one birder because he was playing birds songs in Central park. 
This is one form of radicalization. Birders think they are entitled to do 
anything to protect birds, even violence against another human being.

I am also a victim of this radicalization. 

Because I post photos of owls on twitter, I was subjected to what I call a 
“cancel culture.” Some birders started boycotting me and started to spread 
false rumors about me that I am a danger to birds. They even apply their 
“cancel culture” on any person who is perceived as a friend of mine, to the 
point that some people who have nothing to do with it started to avoid me.

What happened to Mr DeCandido and what I am hearing being said about me behind 
my back made me worried about my own safety. I became very cautious when I go 
birding especially that I do all my birding alone. I became afraid of birders. 
It is unbelievable, I know you would say that. But this is the truth.

I became very withdrawn and started avoiding all birders, except those who I 
know they are friendly to me.

I think you got my point on why Mr. Fiore should be blocked. His persistence in 
writing these things help radicalizing birders. But you might say promoting 
good birding ethics is a good thing. The problem is that there are significant 
number of birders who don’t agree with these ethics and some of them are very 
big in bird watching and birding research.

It doesn’t matter what side you are on. The attack on the Capitol on Wednesday 
was committed by the radicalized right. But the radicalized left is also 
capable of similar acts if they have a chance. It is the radicalization that is 
the problem. And there is so much radicalization in the birding community, I am 
afraid. 

Some people might consider me radical when it comes to posting photos of owls 
or consider Mr DeCandido as radical in using songs playing but at least I don’t 
resort to violence or cancel culture or spreading false rumors and to the best 
of my knowledge Mr. DeCandido doesn’t do either.

So, please, Stop the radicalization and block Mr. Fiore.  

Thank you
Gus Keri




 

Re: [nysbirds-l] N.Y. County (NYC), 1/10 & prior days: L. B.-b. Gull, 2 W. Tanagers, E. Phoebe, etc.

2021-01-11 Thread ArieGilbert
Liam et alInnocuous  reminders of ethics by Tom is not the issue. The vitriol 
against those who post photos of owls, or pass along their location as a 
consequence is the problem. Time and again I have witnessed amateur 
photographers ( despite possessing rather expensive equipment) crowd and or 
chase owls, and some nitwits cut branches to get better shots. There are bad 
actors who result in limited publicity of these birds and Gus may frustrate 
them. And they may take this frustration out on him. It has been laughable to 
me to see people railing against others getting too close to an owl in central 
park, while non birders were walking much closer, talking loudly, and had dogs 
in tow. ...perspective...FWIW birding Bob in my estimation overuses tape. But 
it annoys birders FAR more than any perceived  injury to the birds. I wish 
people behaved better, but they don't. It would be great if we didn't have to 
worry about the ill informed doing harm, but thats the reality. I myself was 
berated by an random adjacent birder who chastised me for using a laser to 
point out a bird. The beam was nowhere near the bird, but he felt strongly that 
i was going to blind it. No. Not at all. People need to chill.  I hope that 
Gus's fears and issues are unfounded, but nowadays,  probably not.  Gus: sorry 
to hear it. Tom is really not the issue though IMHO. Arie Gilbert Sent from my 
T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
 Original message From: Liam Brock  Date: 
1/11/21  10:13 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: Gus Keri  Cc: Thomas Fiore 
, NYS Birds  Subject: Re: 
[nysbirds-l] N.Y. County (NYC), 1/10 & prior days: L. B.-b. Gull, 2 W. 
Tanagers, E. Phoebe, etc. Just so I understand the position you're taking here, 
Gus—you truly believe that someone posting innocuous ethics reminders at the 
end of listserv emails is radicalizing people and putting you in danger?On Mon, 
Jan 11, 2021, 9:59 AM Gus Keri  wrote:I think the moderators 
of this list should learn from what happened in Washington DC on Wednesday and 
block Mr. Thomas Fiore from posting on this list ever again. (or at least ask 
him to change his style)

Here is why.

After I joined this list, I became fond of his emails because of the valuable 
info he provides about the birds of Manhattan. I also noted that at the end of 
every email he thanks the birders who follow birding ethics focusing on few 
issues: minimizing disturbance to birds, not playing recorder and not 
disclosing roost location. 

At the beginning it didn’t bother me and I reached a point when I stopped 
reading that paragraph. 
But lately, it started to bother me because I found out that when you repeat 
certain “propaganda” over and over and over again, it will lead to 
radicalization of people. 

Ask President Trump about that. 

I remember when Mr. Robert DeCandido wrote an email telling people that he was 
assaulted by one birder because he was playing birds songs in Central park. 
This is one form of radicalization. Birders think they are entitled to do 
anything to protect birds, even violence against another human being.

I am also a victim of this radicalization. 

Because I post photos of owls on twitter, I was subjected to what I call a 
“cancel culture.” Some birders started boycotting me and started to spread 
false rumors about me that I am a danger to birds. They even apply their 
“cancel culture” on any person who is perceived as a friend of mine, to the 
point that some people who have nothing to do with it started to avoid me.

What happened to Mr DeCandido and what I am hearing being said about me behind 
my back made me worried about my own safety. I became very cautious when I go 
birding especially that I do all my birding alone. I became afraid of birders. 
It is unbelievable, I know you would say that. But this is the truth.

I became very withdrawn and started avoiding all birders, except those who I 
know they are friendly to me.

I think you got my point on why Mr. Fiore should be blocked. His persistence in 
writing these things help radicalizing birders. But you might say promoting 
good birding ethics is a good thing. The problem is that there are significant 
number of birders who don’t agree with these ethics and some of them are very 
big in bird watching and birding research.

It doesn’t matter what side you are on. The attack on the Capitol on Wednesday 
was committed by the radicalized right. But the radicalized left is also 
capable of similar acts if they have a chance. It is the radicalization that is 
the problem. And there is so much radicalization in the birding community, I am 
afraid. 

Some people might consider me radical when it comes to posting photos of owls 
or consider Mr DeCandido as radical in using songs playing but at least I don’t 
resort to violence or cancel culture or spreading false rumors and to the best 
of my knowledge Mr. DeCandido doesn’t do either.

So, please, Stop the radicalization and block Mr. Fiore.  

Thank you
Gus Keri




 

RE: [nysbirds-l] extralimital mega rarity

2020-11-01 Thread ArieGilbert

Bird being 
seen!!!https://www.google.com/maps?ll=41.8422669,-71.5457688=41.8422669,-71.5457688=18.512:55pmArie
 Gilbert N. Babylon Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
 Original message From: Robert Lewis  Date: 
11/1/20  12:08 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: NYSBIRDS  Subject: 
[nysbirds-l] extralimital mega rarity Common Cuckoo in Rhode Island.  Check 
ebird.  Seen this morning. Near Providence.Bob LewisNYSbirds-L List 
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RE: [nysbirds-l] extralimital mega rarity

2020-11-01 Thread ArieGilbert

Bird being 
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 Gilbert N. Babylon Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
 Original message From: Robert Lewis  Date: 
11/1/20  12:08 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: NYSBIRDS  Subject: 
[nysbirds-l] extralimital mega rarity Common Cuckoo in Rhode Island.  Check 
ebird.  Seen this morning. Near Providence.Bob LewisNYSbirds-L List 
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[nysbirds-l] Tropical kingbird YES

2020-10-28 Thread ArieGilbert
Bird continues by tennis courtsViewed from this location at 11.28 on 
10-28-20https://www.google.com/maps?ll=41.0247816,-73.8756207=41.0247816,-73.8756207=18.541.0247816,-73.8756207Arie
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[nysbirds-l] Tropical kingbird YES

2020-10-28 Thread ArieGilbert
Bird continues by tennis courtsViewed from this location at 11.28 on 
10-28-20https://www.google.com/maps?ll=41.0247816,-73.8756207=41.0247816,-73.8756207=18.541.0247816,-73.8756207Arie
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Purple gallinule

2020-06-28 Thread ArieGilbert
Purple gallinule is in Twin Lakes Preserve in Wantagh. See googlePosition in 
pond most favored is approx across from ryder. Park on old mill roadEnter ca. 
300' north of park ave then walk south to a small board walk across from 
ryderFound by Robert Proniewych  a few days agoReleased by rehabber Bobby 
Horvath who determined bird was fine after an overnight. Arie Gilbert N. 
Babylon Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
 Original message From: Larry Trachtenberg 
 Date: 6/28/20  8:34 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: Robert Lewis 
 Cc: NYSBirds  Subject: Re: 
[nysbirds-l] Purple gallinule Mr. Lewis this is a statewide list can you let 
folks know what “Ryder” is and where it is. BestL. Trachtenberg OssiningSent 
from my iPhone> On Jun 28, 2020, at 7:57 AM, Robert Lewis  
wrote:> > -CAUTION: EXTERNAL EMAIL> > > > Hugging west shore near entrance at 
Ryder   First seen around 7:00.  Five people following its slow progress> > > 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Purple gallinule

2020-06-28 Thread ArieGilbert
Purple gallinule is in Twin Lakes Preserve in Wantagh. See googlePosition in 
pond most favored is approx across from ryder. Park on old mill roadEnter ca. 
300' north of park ave then walk south to a small board walk across from 
ryderFound by Robert Proniewych  a few days agoReleased by rehabber Bobby 
Horvath who determined bird was fine after an overnight. Arie Gilbert N. 
Babylon Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
 Original message From: Larry Trachtenberg 
 Date: 6/28/20  8:34 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: Robert Lewis 
 Cc: NYSBirds  Subject: Re: 
[nysbirds-l] Purple gallinule Mr. Lewis this is a statewide list can you let 
folks know what “Ryder” is and where it is. BestL. Trachtenberg OssiningSent 
from my iPhone> On Jun 28, 2020, at 7:57 AM, Robert Lewis  
wrote:> > -CAUTION: EXTERNAL EMAIL> > > > Hugging west shore near entrance at 
Ryder   First seen around 7:00.  Five people following its slow progress> > > 
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[nysbirds-l] FW: [eBird Alert] Needs Alert for New York

2020-02-02 Thread ArieGilbert
Wow.  Lets all go to Ithaca. Eburd. For syentifik purpisses only. 
 Original message From: ebird-al...@cornell.edu Date: 2/2/20  
4:56 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: ariegilb...@optonline.net Subject: [eBird Alert] Needs 
Alert for New York  *** Species Summary:Greater Coucal (1 
Tompkins)Asian Palm-Swift (1 Tompkins)White-breasted Waterhen (1 
Tompkins)Little Ringed Plover (1 Tompkins)Common Sandpiper (1 
Tompkins)Brown-headed Gull (1 Tompkins)Gray Heron (1 Tompkins)Indian Pond-Heron 
(1 Tompkins)Common Kingfisher (1 Tompkins)White-throated Kingfisher (1 
Tompkins)Green Bee-eater (1 Tompkins)Coppersmith Barbet (1 Tompkins)Rose-ringed 
Parakeet (1 Tompkins)Indian Golden Oriole (1 Tompkins)White-browed Fantail (1 
Tompkins)Black Drongo (1 Tompkins)Long-tailed Shrike (1 Tompkins)Ashy Prinia (1 
Tompkins)Red-vented Bulbul (1 Tompkins)White-eared Bulbul (1 Tompkins)Asian 
Pied Starling (1 Tompkins)Chestnut-tailed Starling (1 Tompkins)Oriental 
Magpie-Robin (1 Tompkins)Purple-rumped Sunbird (1 Tompkins)Western Yellow 
Wagtail (1 Tompkins)-Thank you for 
subscribing to the  Needs Alert for New York.The report below shows 
observations of species you have not seen in New York, based on your eBird 
observations.  View or unsubscribe to this alert at 
https://ebird.org/alert/summary?sid=SN10378NOTE: all sightings are UNCONFIRMED 
unless indicatedGreater Coucal (Centropus sinensis) (1)- Reported Feb 02, 2020 
07:03 by Deep Pradhan- 40 Stewart Park, Ithaca, New York, US (42.46, -76.504), 
Tompkins, New York- Map: 
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=42.46,-76.504=42.46,-76.504- 
Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S64036158- Comments: "Present"Asian 
Palm-Swift (Cypsiurus balasiensis) (30)- Reported Feb 02, 2020 07:03 by Deep 
Pradhan- 40 Stewart Park, Ithaca, New York, US (42.46, -76.504), Tompkins, New 
York- Map: 
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=42.46,-76.504=42.46,-76.504- 
Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S64036158- Comments: 
"Present"White-breasted Waterhen (Amaurornis phoenicurus) (3)- Reported Feb 02, 
2020 07:03 by Deep Pradhan- 40 Stewart Park, Ithaca, New York, US (42.46, 
-76.504), Tompkins, New York- Map: 
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=42.46,-76.504=42.46,-76.504- 
Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S64036158- Comments: 
"Present"Little Ringed Plover (Charadrius dubius) (5)- Reported Feb 02, 2020 
07:03 by Deep Pradhan- 40 Stewart Park, Ithaca, New York, US (42.46, -76.504), 
Tompkins, New York- Map: 
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=42.46,-76.504=42.46,-76.504- 
Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S64036158- Comments: 
"Present"Common Sandpiper (Actitis hypoleucos) (30)- Reported Feb 02, 2020 
07:03 by Deep Pradhan- 40 Stewart Park, Ithaca, New York, US (42.46, -76.504), 
Tompkins, New York- Map: 
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=42.46,-76.504=42.46,-76.504- 
Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S64036158- Comments: 
"Present"Brown-headed Gull (Chroicocephalus brunnicephalus) (25)- Reported Feb 
02, 2020 07:03 by Deep Pradhan- 40 Stewart Park, Ithaca, New York, US (42.46, 
-76.504), Tompkins, New York- Map: 
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=42.46,-76.504=42.46,-76.504- 
Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S64036158- Comments: "Present"Gray 
Heron (Ardea cinerea) (1)- Reported Feb 02, 2020 07:03 by Deep Pradhan- 40 
Stewart Park, Ithaca, New York, US (42.46, -76.504), Tompkins, New York- Map: 
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=42.46,-76.504=42.46,-76.504- 
Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S64036158- Comments: 
"Present"Indian Pond-Heron (Ardeola grayii) (10)- Reported Feb 02, 2020 07:03 
by Deep Pradhan- 40 Stewart Park, Ithaca, New York, US (42.46, -76.504), 
Tompkins, New York- Map: 
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=42.46,-76.504=42.46,-76.504- 
Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S64036158- Comments: 
"Present"Common Kingfisher (Alcedo atthis) (1)- Reported Feb 02, 2020 07:03 by 
Deep Pradhan- 40 Stewart Park, Ithaca, New York, US (42.46, -76.504), Tompkins, 
New York- Map: 
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=42.46,-76.504=42.46,-76.504- 
Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S64036158- Comments: 
"Present"White-throated Kingfisher (Halcyon smyrnensis) (2)- Reported Feb 02, 
2020 07:03 by Deep Pradhan- 40 Stewart Park, Ithaca, New York, US (42.46, 
-76.504), Tompkins, New York- Map: 
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=42.46,-76.504=42.46,-76.504- 
Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S64036158- Comments: "Present"Green 
Bee-eater (Merops orientalis) (3)- Reported Feb 02, 2020 07:03 by Deep Pradhan- 
40 Stewart Park, Ithaca, New York, US (42.46, -76.504), Tompkins, New York- 
Map: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=42.46,-76.504=42.46,-76.504- 
Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S64036158- Comments: 
"Present"Coppersmith Barbet (Psilopogon haemacephalus) (2)- Reported Feb 02, 
2020 07:03 by Deep Pradhan- 40 Stewart Park, 

[nysbirds-l] FW: [eBird Alert] Needs Alert for New York

2020-02-02 Thread ArieGilbert
Wow.  Lets all go to Ithaca. Eburd. For syentifik purpisses only. 
 Original message From: ebird-al...@cornell.edu Date: 2/2/20  
4:56 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: ariegilb...@optonline.net Subject: [eBird Alert] Needs 
Alert for New York  *** Species Summary:Greater Coucal (1 
Tompkins)Asian Palm-Swift (1 Tompkins)White-breasted Waterhen (1 
Tompkins)Little Ringed Plover (1 Tompkins)Common Sandpiper (1 
Tompkins)Brown-headed Gull (1 Tompkins)Gray Heron (1 Tompkins)Indian Pond-Heron 
(1 Tompkins)Common Kingfisher (1 Tompkins)White-throated Kingfisher (1 
Tompkins)Green Bee-eater (1 Tompkins)Coppersmith Barbet (1 Tompkins)Rose-ringed 
Parakeet (1 Tompkins)Indian Golden Oriole (1 Tompkins)White-browed Fantail (1 
Tompkins)Black Drongo (1 Tompkins)Long-tailed Shrike (1 Tompkins)Ashy Prinia (1 
Tompkins)Red-vented Bulbul (1 Tompkins)White-eared Bulbul (1 Tompkins)Asian 
Pied Starling (1 Tompkins)Chestnut-tailed Starling (1 Tompkins)Oriental 
Magpie-Robin (1 Tompkins)Purple-rumped Sunbird (1 Tompkins)Western Yellow 
Wagtail (1 Tompkins)-Thank you for 
subscribing to the  Needs Alert for New York.The report below shows 
observations of species you have not seen in New York, based on your eBird 
observations.  View or unsubscribe to this alert at 
https://ebird.org/alert/summary?sid=SN10378NOTE: all sightings are UNCONFIRMED 
unless indicatedGreater Coucal (Centropus sinensis) (1)- Reported Feb 02, 2020 
07:03 by Deep Pradhan- 40 Stewart Park, Ithaca, New York, US (42.46, -76.504), 
Tompkins, New York- Map: 
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=42.46,-76.504=42.46,-76.504- 
Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S64036158- Comments: "Present"Asian 
Palm-Swift (Cypsiurus balasiensis) (30)- Reported Feb 02, 2020 07:03 by Deep 
Pradhan- 40 Stewart Park, Ithaca, New York, US (42.46, -76.504), Tompkins, New 
York- Map: 
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=42.46,-76.504=42.46,-76.504- 
Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S64036158- Comments: 
"Present"White-breasted Waterhen (Amaurornis phoenicurus) (3)- Reported Feb 02, 
2020 07:03 by Deep Pradhan- 40 Stewart Park, Ithaca, New York, US (42.46, 
-76.504), Tompkins, New York- Map: 
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=42.46,-76.504=42.46,-76.504- 
Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S64036158- Comments: 
"Present"Little Ringed Plover (Charadrius dubius) (5)- Reported Feb 02, 2020 
07:03 by Deep Pradhan- 40 Stewart Park, Ithaca, New York, US (42.46, -76.504), 
Tompkins, New York- Map: 
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=42.46,-76.504=42.46,-76.504- 
Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S64036158- Comments: 
"Present"Common Sandpiper (Actitis hypoleucos) (30)- Reported Feb 02, 2020 
07:03 by Deep Pradhan- 40 Stewart Park, Ithaca, New York, US (42.46, -76.504), 
Tompkins, New York- Map: 
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=42.46,-76.504=42.46,-76.504- 
Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S64036158- Comments: 
"Present"Brown-headed Gull (Chroicocephalus brunnicephalus) (25)- Reported Feb 
02, 2020 07:03 by Deep Pradhan- 40 Stewart Park, Ithaca, New York, US (42.46, 
-76.504), Tompkins, New York- Map: 
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=42.46,-76.504=42.46,-76.504- 
Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S64036158- Comments: "Present"Gray 
Heron (Ardea cinerea) (1)- Reported Feb 02, 2020 07:03 by Deep Pradhan- 40 
Stewart Park, Ithaca, New York, US (42.46, -76.504), Tompkins, New York- Map: 
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=42.46,-76.504=42.46,-76.504- 
Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S64036158- Comments: 
"Present"Indian Pond-Heron (Ardeola grayii) (10)- Reported Feb 02, 2020 07:03 
by Deep Pradhan- 40 Stewart Park, Ithaca, New York, US (42.46, -76.504), 
Tompkins, New York- Map: 
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=42.46,-76.504=42.46,-76.504- 
Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S64036158- Comments: 
"Present"Common Kingfisher (Alcedo atthis) (1)- Reported Feb 02, 2020 07:03 by 
Deep Pradhan- 40 Stewart Park, Ithaca, New York, US (42.46, -76.504), Tompkins, 
New York- Map: 
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=42.46,-76.504=42.46,-76.504- 
Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S64036158- Comments: 
"Present"White-throated Kingfisher (Halcyon smyrnensis) (2)- Reported Feb 02, 
2020 07:03 by Deep Pradhan- 40 Stewart Park, Ithaca, New York, US (42.46, 
-76.504), Tompkins, New York- Map: 
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=42.46,-76.504=42.46,-76.504- 
Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S64036158- Comments: "Present"Green 
Bee-eater (Merops orientalis) (3)- Reported Feb 02, 2020 07:03 by Deep Pradhan- 
40 Stewart Park, Ithaca, New York, US (42.46, -76.504), Tompkins, New York- 
Map: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=42.46,-76.504=42.46,-76.504- 
Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S64036158- Comments: 
"Present"Coppersmith Barbet (Psilopogon haemacephalus) (2)- Reported Feb 02, 
2020 07:03 by Deep Pradhan- 40 Stewart Park, 

[nysbirds-l] Varied thrush kings co YES

2020-01-01 Thread ArieGilbert
In ravine by 3 arches. 
1.22pmHTTP://MAPS.GOOGLE.COM/maps?q=40.66343422,-73.9692067440.66343422,-73.96920674Arie
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[nysbirds-l] Varied thrush kings co YES

2020-01-01 Thread ArieGilbert
In ravine by 3 arches. 
1.22pmHTTP://MAPS.GOOGLE.COM/maps?q=40.66343422,-73.9692067440.66343422,-73.96920674Arie
 GilbertNo. Babylon NYwww.PowerBirder.Blogspot.comwww.QCBirdClub.orgSent from 
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[nysbirds-l] Townsends Warbler Nassau co. YES

2019-12-29 Thread ArieGilbert
In pines along entrance. Parking lot open. viewed from this location at 07.19 
HTTP://MAPS.GOOGLE.COM/maps?q=40.65233856,-73.4849930840.65233856,-73.48499308Arie
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[nysbirds-l] Townsends Warbler Nassau co. YES

2019-12-29 Thread ArieGilbert
In pines along entrance. Parking lot open. viewed from this location at 07.19 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Ash-throated Flycatcher- Suffolk County Farms, 12:40 PM

2019-11-15 Thread ArieGilbert
Bird still present at 
2:25HereHTTP://MAPS.GOOGLE.COM/maps?q=40.82402252,-72.9250478Arie GilbertN. 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Ash-throated Flycatcher- Suffolk County Farms, 12:40 PM

2019-11-15 Thread ArieGilbert
Bird still present at 
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 Original message From: Glenn Quinn  Date: 
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[nysbirds-l] Imm Purple Gallinule NYC YES

2019-11-02 Thread ArieGilbert
viewed from this location at 16.54 on 
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[nysbirds-l] Imm Purple Gallinule NYC YES

2019-11-02 Thread ArieGilbert
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[nysbirds-l] Varied Thrush Queens co..

2019-10-18 Thread ArieGilbert
Eric Miller just called to report a Varied Thrush in  APEC. Google: Alley Pond 
Environmental center. He is trying to relocate currently. Arie GilbertNo. 
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[nysbirds-l] Varied Thrush Queens co..

2019-10-18 Thread ArieGilbert
Eric Miller just called to report a Varied Thrush in  APEC. Google: Alley Pond 
Environmental center. He is trying to relocate currently. Arie GilbertNo. 
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[nysbirds-l] Caspian tern mecox.

2019-09-28 Thread ArieGilbert
viewed from this location at 15.48 on 9-28-19

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[nysbirds-l] Caspian tern mecox.

2019-09-28 Thread ArieGilbert
viewed from this location at 15.48 on 9-28-19

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Birding the Black Dirt Region, Orange County

2019-09-23 Thread ArieGilbert
Trespassing is *against the law*. Adults should know this. Birders or 
photographers are *not* exempt. 
See the following document on proper behavior. Sheesh, does it really need to 
be posted? Apparently and sadly yes. Yes it does. 
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v=sites=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnxxY2JpcmRjbHVifGd4OjcyZDE1Nzk1MDNjZWM3Yzc
It will not take a lot for the selfish and inconsiderate to ruin it for the 
rest of us. Dont be one of them!
Arie GilbertNorth Babylon Queens County Bird Club inc. 


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 3:22 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Felipe Pimentel  Cc: Robert 
Lewis , nys birds  Subject: Re: 
[nysbirds-l] Birding the Black Dirt Region, Orange County 
One should never enter the fields on Indiana Road. The last time I was there 
there were birders from a number of states trampling all of the fields, much to 
the dismay (right fully so) of the local farmers. So much so that there was 
talk of putting up a locked entrance gate. 
Peter Post

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On Sep 23, 2019, at 2:18 PM, Felipe Pimentel  wrote:






There a several private roads but you can enter through Skinner’s lane and 
drive in the direction of Route 12 and look around for migrating shorebirds 
(now in early fall). You will pass several sad farms and now there a few 
“protected” medical cannabis farms
 too, and  the area is under surveillance. 



https://ebird.org/hotspots?hs=L1276465=all=


The other road that is private but birders use is Indiana rd that is good for 
migrating hawks in Fall.



https://ebird.org/hotspot/L1041928



Avoid to enter the crop fields when you see workers and stay on the main dirt 
roads.



The other place to go is Pine Island Turf Nursery. I suggest NOT to visit that 
farm during the week since they are working and preparing the fields for 
winter. I generally go there ONLY during the weekends, when the place is more 
quiet.



https://ebird.org/hotspot/L1041928



Good luck!



Felipe









On Sep 23, 2019, at 2:07 PM, Robert Lewis  wrote:









A few weeks ago I asked here for directions about where to actually go in the 
Black Dirt region.  One can find many references to birding there online, and 
there are some ebird spots, but there are many dirt or gravel roads and many 
seem to be
 on private property, and many are obviously not driveable once you see them.  
So what is an out-of-the-area birder supposed to do? 






I thank Felipe Pimentel who provided directions to the Pine Island Turf farm.



Yesterday I went exploring.  The attached map is the result.  Enter the area at 
Skinner Lane,
41.320541, -74.435339.  My route is the narrow black line.  I went up Skinner 
Lane to the northwest until it meets Iris Road, which is called Celery Avenue 
on my Iphone map app.  Then I turned left and follow Iris a long time.  It is 
all an excellent
 gravel road.  I was surprised to see a bridge over the Wallkill River at 
41.325083, -74.466914.  It is certainly driveable.  The maps are wrong in that 
there is no connection between Iris and
Transport at 41.300798, -74.472080.



As for birds, there were very few.  But in a few months -- let's hope.














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Re: [nysbirds-l] Birding the Black Dirt Region, Orange County

2019-09-23 Thread ArieGilbert
Trespassing is *against the law*. Adults should know this. Birders or 
photographers are *not* exempt. 
See the following document on proper behavior. Sheesh, does it really need to 
be posted? Apparently and sadly yes. Yes it does. 
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v=sites=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnxxY2JpcmRjbHVifGd4OjcyZDE1Nzk1MDNjZWM3Yzc
It will not take a lot for the selfish and inconsiderate to ruin it for the 
rest of us. Dont be one of them!
Arie GilbertNorth Babylon Queens County Bird Club inc. 


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 Original message From: Peter  Date: 9/23/19 
 3:22 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Felipe Pimentel  Cc: Robert 
Lewis , nys birds  Subject: Re: 
[nysbirds-l] Birding the Black Dirt Region, Orange County 
One should never enter the fields on Indiana Road. The last time I was there 
there were birders from a number of states trampling all of the fields, much to 
the dismay (right fully so) of the local farmers. So much so that there was 
talk of putting up a locked entrance gate. 
Peter Post

Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 23, 2019, at 2:18 PM, Felipe Pimentel  wrote:






There a several private roads but you can enter through Skinner’s lane and 
drive in the direction of Route 12 and look around for migrating shorebirds 
(now in early fall). You will pass several sad farms and now there a few 
“protected” medical cannabis farms
 too, and  the area is under surveillance. 



https://ebird.org/hotspots?hs=L1276465=all=


The other road that is private but birders use is Indiana rd that is good for 
migrating hawks in Fall.



https://ebird.org/hotspot/L1041928



Avoid to enter the crop fields when you see workers and stay on the main dirt 
roads.



The other place to go is Pine Island Turf Nursery. I suggest NOT to visit that 
farm during the week since they are working and preparing the fields for 
winter. I generally go there ONLY during the weekends, when the place is more 
quiet.



https://ebird.org/hotspot/L1041928



Good luck!



Felipe









On Sep 23, 2019, at 2:07 PM, Robert Lewis  wrote:









A few weeks ago I asked here for directions about where to actually go in the 
Black Dirt region.  One can find many references to birding there online, and 
there are some ebird spots, but there are many dirt or gravel roads and many 
seem to be
 on private property, and many are obviously not driveable once you see them.  
So what is an out-of-the-area birder supposed to do? 






I thank Felipe Pimentel who provided directions to the Pine Island Turf farm.



Yesterday I went exploring.  The attached map is the result.  Enter the area at 
Skinner Lane,
41.320541, -74.435339.  My route is the narrow black line.  I went up Skinner 
Lane to the northwest until it meets Iris Road, which is called Celery Avenue 
on my Iphone map app.  Then I turned left and follow Iris a long time.  It is 
all an excellent
 gravel road.  I was surprised to see a bridge over the Wallkill River at 
41.325083, -74.466914.  It is certainly driveable.  The maps are wrong in that 
there is no connection between Iris and
Transport at 41.300798, -74.472080.



As for birds, there were very few.  But in a few months -- let's hope.














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Sleepy Hollow NY



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Re: [nysbirds-l] 2 sand wich and 1 caspian Sagg Beach

2019-09-13 Thread ArieGilbert
Update. 3 Sandwich. 2 Caspian. 


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[nysbirds-l] 2 sand wich and 1 caspian Sagg Beach 
viewed from this location at 16.47 on 9-13-19

Other terns too...

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Re: [nysbirds-l] 2 sand wich and 1 caspian Sagg Beach

2019-09-13 Thread ArieGilbert
Update. 3 Sandwich. 2 Caspian. 


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Date: 9/13/19  4:49 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: nysbirds-L@cornell.edu Subject: 
[nysbirds-l] 2 sand wich and 1 caspian Sagg Beach 
viewed from this location at 16.47 on 9-13-19

Other terns too...

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[nysbirds-l] 2 sand wich and 1 caspian Sagg Beach

2019-09-13 Thread ArieGilbert
viewed from this location at 16.47 on 9-13-19

Other terns too...

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40.90810524,-72.28797691

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[nysbirds-l] 2 sand wich and 1 caspian Sagg Beach

2019-09-13 Thread ArieGilbert
viewed from this location at 16.47 on 9-13-19

Other terns too...

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[nysbirds-l] Buff Breasted sandpiper Heckscher field 8

2019-09-08 Thread ArieGilbert
viewed from this location at 14.31 on 9-8-19
On beach 

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[nysbirds-l] Buff Breasted sandpiper Heckscher field 8

2019-09-08 Thread ArieGilbert
viewed from this location at 14.31 on 9-8-19
On beach 

HTTP://MAPS.GOOGLE.COM/maps?q=40.69882287,-73.15685338

40.69882287,-73.15685338

Arie Gilbert
No. Babylon NY
www.PowerBirder.Blogspot.com
www.QCBirdClub.org



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NYSbirds-L List Info:
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

ARCHIVES:
1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01

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[nysbirds-l] Imm white Ibis Knox Marsellus YES

2019-08-31 Thread ArieGilbert
viewed from this location at 17.48 on 8-31-19

From viewing lot, check small pond on left side which is separated from main 
pool by rushes. Favors this area. 

HTTP://MAPS.GOOGLE.COM/maps?q=43.01153582,-76.75870754

43.01153582,-76.75870754

Arie Gilbert
No. Babylon NY
www.PowerBirder.Blogspot.com
www.QCBirdClub.org



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NYSbirds-L List Info:
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

ARCHIVES:
1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01

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[nysbirds-l] Imm white Ibis Knox Marsellus YES

2019-08-31 Thread ArieGilbert
viewed from this location at 17.48 on 8-31-19

From viewing lot, check small pond on left side which is separated from main 
pool by rushes. Favors this area. 

HTTP://MAPS.GOOGLE.COM/maps?q=43.01153582,-76.75870754

43.01153582,-76.75870754

Arie Gilbert
No. Babylon NY
www.PowerBirder.Blogspot.com
www.QCBirdClub.org



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NYSbirds-L List Info:
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

ARCHIVES:
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2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01

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[nysbirds-l] Lark Sparrow Robert Moses STPK F2

2019-08-27 Thread ArieGilbert
viewed from this location at 10.11 on 8-27-19
Working north edge of lot from ca. Half way. 

HTTP://MAPS.GOOGLE.COM/maps?q=40.62347437,-73.27702399

40.62347437,-73.27702399

Arie Gilbert
No. Babylon NY
www.PowerBirder.Blogspot.com
www.QCBirdClub.org



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http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

ARCHIVES:
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2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01

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[nysbirds-l] Lark Sparrow Robert Moses STPK F2

2019-08-27 Thread ArieGilbert
viewed from this location at 10.11 on 8-27-19
Working north edge of lot from ca. Half way. 

HTTP://MAPS.GOOGLE.COM/maps?q=40.62347437,-73.27702399

40.62347437,-73.27702399

Arie Gilbert
No. Babylon NY
www.PowerBirder.Blogspot.com
www.QCBirdClub.org



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NYSbirds-L List Info:
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

ARCHIVES:
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2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01

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[nysbirds-l] Avocet at Mecox YES

2019-08-22 Thread ArieGilbert
viewed from this location at 07.11 on 8-22-19
Parking before 9am or after 6pm. 

HTTP://MAPS.GOOGLE.COM/maps?q=40.89177929,-72.32836073

40.89177929,-72.32836073

Arie Gilbert
No. Babylon NY
www.PowerBirder.Blogspot.com
www.QCBirdClub.org



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http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

ARCHIVES:
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2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01

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[nysbirds-l] Avocet at Mecox YES

2019-08-22 Thread ArieGilbert
viewed from this location at 07.11 on 8-22-19
Parking before 9am or after 6pm. 

HTTP://MAPS.GOOGLE.COM/maps?q=40.89177929,-72.32836073

40.89177929,-72.32836073

Arie Gilbert
No. Babylon NY
www.PowerBirder.Blogspot.com
www.QCBirdClub.org



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--

NYSbirds-L List Info:
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

ARCHIVES:
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2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01

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[nysbirds-l] Brown Pelican Jones beach w end

2019-08-08 Thread ArieGilbert
viewed from this location at 10.57 on 8-8-19.
 Sand bar in front of bridge

HTTP://MAPS.GOOGLE.COM/maps?q=40.59059891,-73.56035968

40.59059891,-73.56035968

Arie Gilbert
No. Babylon NY
www.PowerBirder.Blogspot.com
www.QCBirdClub.org



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--

NYSbirds-L List Info:
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

ARCHIVES:
1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01

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[nysbirds-l] Brown Pelican Jones beach w end

2019-08-08 Thread ArieGilbert
viewed from this location at 10.57 on 8-8-19.
 Sand bar in front of bridge

HTTP://MAPS.GOOGLE.COM/maps?q=40.59059891,-73.56035968

40.59059891,-73.56035968

Arie Gilbert
No. Babylon NY
www.PowerBirder.Blogspot.com
www.QCBirdClub.org



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--

NYSbirds-L List Info:
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

ARCHIVES:
1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01

Please submit your observations to eBird:
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[nysbirds-l] Bridled Tern. Great Gull Island. continues

2019-07-25 Thread ArieGilbert
Still present on its favorite spot on the north east end of the island.  
07/25/19

Arie Gilbert
No. Babylon NY
www.PowerBirder.Blogspot.com
www.QCBirdClub.org



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--

NYSbirds-L List Info:
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

ARCHIVES:
1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01

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[nysbirds-l] Bridled Tern. Great Gull Island. continues

2019-07-25 Thread ArieGilbert
Still present on its favorite spot on the north east end of the island.  
07/25/19

Arie Gilbert
No. Babylon NY
www.PowerBirder.Blogspot.com
www.QCBirdClub.org



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NYSbirds-L List Info:
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

ARCHIVES:
1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01

Please submit your observations to eBird:
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Purposeful Birdwatching

2019-06-26 Thread ArieGilbert
Re doldrums:  one cannot appreciate a great day of birding without bad days. 
Yin/Yang
Also  its important to have LOOB
( life outside of birding )
Arie Gilbert
No. Babylon NY
www.PowerBirder.Blogspot.com
www.QCBirdClub.org
Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
 Original message From: Shaibal Mitra 
 Date: 6/26/19  11:11 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: "NYSBIRDS 
(NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu)"  Subject: [nysbirds-l] 
Purposeful Birdwatching 
Judging from many, many recent conversations with fellow birders, it seems that 
people are having a tough time of it during these June doldrums. From 
independent sources over the past week, I've heard: "crushing disappointment;" 
"why is it so bad?;" "is it going to get better?" "something could show up, 
right?;" "didn't birding used to be good?;" "this place used to be good, I 
think" and more. And this has mostly been in the context of ordinary, local 
birding, not directly related to the more ominous big-picture concerns 
expressed by Chris recently.

My usual response, admittedly slightly sadistic, is that birding excitement has 
always been relative. We modern observers can't begin to imagine how bad it was 
before the legal protection of birds was implemented a century ago, and yet the 
observers of that time still found birdwatching exciting--and were motivated 
enough to achieve protective legislation in the face of forces as ruthless and 
malevolent as those confronting us now. Imagine the excitement experienced by 
Harry Hathaway, the father of Rhode Island ornithology, when in 1894 he saw his 
first Great Blue Heron, after ten years of field work! It was Hathaway's 
ongoing work that eventually revealed that a unique, seemingly outlying, 19th 
Century winter record of White-throated Sparrow in RI was not an accident. He 
documented two more winter records and lived long enough to see RI's plundered 
and deforested landscape recover sufficiently to harbor the lisping flocks of 
White-throats we now take for granted on the CBCs.

On Long Island, Ludlow Griscom scolded over-exuberant birders who tossed off 
sight records of Ring-billed Gulls in winter and summer, citing a countable 
number of such specimens as the gold standard of documentation for that species 
in that context. Chafing at this discipline, Cruickshank and Peterson figured 
out how to find and identify Ring-billed Gulls better then their 
predecessors--proving again the eternal pleasure of purposeful birdwatching.

Yesterday I saw my first adult Ring-billed Gulls of the season at Robert Moses 
SP, Suffolk County. I'm not sure of the date for my last spring adult, but I 
did manage to record that none were present by 17 April:

https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S55097294

And I am able to pull up the date of the late-June return of adults in at least 
one other year:

https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S17210602

[note to eBird: please enable sorting of checklists by Julian date!]

A little sleuthing subsequently revealed that two of my colleagues beat me to 
it this year, documenting an adult Ring-bill at Cupsogue two days before my 
exciting find (though it required some follow-up work to obtain their photos 
and a definitive age):

https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S57623401

Hypothesis: Ring-billed Gulls whose breeding efforts fail after early June 
abandon the colonies and disperse, some reaching the coast.

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore
--

NYSbirds-L List Info:
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

ARCHIVES:
1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01

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http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

ARCHIVES:
1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01

Please submit your observations to eBird:
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Purposeful Birdwatching

2019-06-26 Thread ArieGilbert
Re doldrums:  one cannot appreciate a great day of birding without bad days. 
Yin/Yang
Also  its important to have LOOB
( life outside of birding )
Arie Gilbert
No. Babylon NY
www.PowerBirder.Blogspot.com
www.QCBirdClub.org
Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
 Original message From: Shaibal Mitra 
 Date: 6/26/19  11:11 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: "NYSBIRDS 
(NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu)"  Subject: [nysbirds-l] 
Purposeful Birdwatching 
Judging from many, many recent conversations with fellow birders, it seems that 
people are having a tough time of it during these June doldrums. From 
independent sources over the past week, I've heard: "crushing disappointment;" 
"why is it so bad?;" "is it going to get better?" "something could show up, 
right?;" "didn't birding used to be good?;" "this place used to be good, I 
think" and more. And this has mostly been in the context of ordinary, local 
birding, not directly related to the more ominous big-picture concerns 
expressed by Chris recently.

My usual response, admittedly slightly sadistic, is that birding excitement has 
always been relative. We modern observers can't begin to imagine how bad it was 
before the legal protection of birds was implemented a century ago, and yet the 
observers of that time still found birdwatching exciting--and were motivated 
enough to achieve protective legislation in the face of forces as ruthless and 
malevolent as those confronting us now. Imagine the excitement experienced by 
Harry Hathaway, the father of Rhode Island ornithology, when in 1894 he saw his 
first Great Blue Heron, after ten years of field work! It was Hathaway's 
ongoing work that eventually revealed that a unique, seemingly outlying, 19th 
Century winter record of White-throated Sparrow in RI was not an accident. He 
documented two more winter records and lived long enough to see RI's plundered 
and deforested landscape recover sufficiently to harbor the lisping flocks of 
White-throats we now take for granted on the CBCs.

On Long Island, Ludlow Griscom scolded over-exuberant birders who tossed off 
sight records of Ring-billed Gulls in winter and summer, citing a countable 
number of such specimens as the gold standard of documentation for that species 
in that context. Chafing at this discipline, Cruickshank and Peterson figured 
out how to find and identify Ring-billed Gulls better then their 
predecessors--proving again the eternal pleasure of purposeful birdwatching.

Yesterday I saw my first adult Ring-billed Gulls of the season at Robert Moses 
SP, Suffolk County. I'm not sure of the date for my last spring adult, but I 
did manage to record that none were present by 17 April:

https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S55097294

And I am able to pull up the date of the late-June return of adults in at least 
one other year:

https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S17210602

[note to eBird: please enable sorting of checklists by Julian date!]

A little sleuthing subsequently revealed that two of my colleagues beat me to 
it this year, documenting an adult Ring-bill at Cupsogue two days before my 
exciting find (though it required some follow-up work to obtain their photos 
and a definitive age):

https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S57623401

Hypothesis: Ring-billed Gulls whose breeding efforts fail after early June 
abandon the colonies and disperse, some reaching the coast.

Shai Mitra
Bay Shore
--

NYSbirds-L List Info:
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

ARCHIVES:
1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01

Please submit your observations to eBird:
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NYSbirds-L List Info:
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

ARCHIVES:
1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01

Please submit your observations to eBird:
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[nysbirds-l] Sandhill crane Napeague YES

2019-05-28 Thread ArieGilbert
viewed from this location at 06.15 on 5-28-19
SOUTH SIDE OF ROAD

HTTP://MAPS.GOOGLE.COM/maps?q=40.99521302,-72.0823544

40.99521302,-72.0823544

Arie Gilbert
No. Babylon NY
www.PowerBirder.Blogspot.com
www.QCBirdClub.org



Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
--

NYSbirds-L List Info:
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

ARCHIVES:
1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01

Please submit your observations to eBird:
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[nysbirds-l] Sandhill crane Napeague YES

2019-05-28 Thread ArieGilbert
viewed from this location at 06.15 on 5-28-19
SOUTH SIDE OF ROAD

HTTP://MAPS.GOOGLE.COM/maps?q=40.99521302,-72.0823544

40.99521302,-72.0823544

Arie Gilbert
No. Babylon NY
www.PowerBirder.Blogspot.com
www.QCBirdClub.org



Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
--

NYSbirds-L List Info:
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

ARCHIVES:
1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01

Please submit your observations to eBird:
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[nysbirds-l] Swainsons warbler relocated just now

2019-05-16 Thread ArieGilbert
Eastcside of lake from bow bridge to gill
viewed from this location at 15.07 on 5-16-19

HTTP://MAPS.GOOGLE.COM/maps?q=40.77682193,-73.97167434

40.77682193,-73.97167434

Arie Gilbert
No. Babylon NY
www.PowerBirder.Blogspot.com
www.QCBirdClub.org



Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
--

NYSbirds-L List Info:
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

ARCHIVES:
1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01

Please submit your observations to eBird:
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[nysbirds-l] Swainsons warbler relocated just now

2019-05-16 Thread ArieGilbert
Eastcside of lake from bow bridge to gill
viewed from this location at 15.07 on 5-16-19

HTTP://MAPS.GOOGLE.COM/maps?q=40.77682193,-73.97167434

40.77682193,-73.97167434

Arie Gilbert
No. Babylon NY
www.PowerBirder.Blogspot.com
www.QCBirdClub.org



Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
--

NYSbirds-L List Info:
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

ARCHIVES:
1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01

Please submit your observations to eBird:
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[nysbirds-l] Wilsons plover YES.

2019-05-16 Thread ArieGilbert
viewed from this location at 08.18 on 5-16-19

HTTP://MAPS.GOOGLE.COM/maps?q=40.76773428,-72.74240814

40.76773428,-72.74240814

Arie Gilbert
No. Babylon NY
www.PowerBirder.Blogspot.com
www.QCBirdClub.org



Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
--

NYSbirds-L List Info:
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm
http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

ARCHIVES:
1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01

Please submit your observations to eBird:
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[nysbirds-l] Wilsons plover YES.

2019-05-16 Thread ArieGilbert
viewed from this location at 08.18 on 5-16-19

HTTP://MAPS.GOOGLE.COM/maps?q=40.76773428,-72.74240814

40.76773428,-72.74240814

Arie Gilbert
No. Babylon NY
www.PowerBirder.Blogspot.com
www.QCBirdClub.org



Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
--

NYSbirds-L List Info:
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Co. Greenshank Suffolk Co

2019-05-05 Thread ArieGilbert

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Greenshank!!!   Precise directions please!
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Co. Greenshank Suffolk Co

2019-05-05 Thread ArieGilbert

HTTP://MAPS.GOOGLE.COM/maps?q=40.71806915,-73.14653809

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 Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Co. Greenshank Suffolk Co 

Greenshank!!!   Precise directions please!
Bob LewisSleepy Hollow  NY









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[nysbirds-l] Imm white faced ibis. Suffolk co

2019-04-30 Thread ArieGilbert

Field 6 Heckscher stpk
viewed from this location at 18.12 on 4-30-19

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[nysbirds-l] Imm white faced ibis. Suffolk co

2019-04-30 Thread ArieGilbert

Field 6 Heckscher stpk
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Re:[nysbirds-l] Black necked stilt Nickerson Beach Nassau co.

2019-04-21 Thread ArieGilbert
Black neck stilt continues at nickerson4:30pm



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Re:[nysbirds-l] Black necked stilt Nickerson Beach Nassau co.

2019-04-21 Thread ArieGilbert
Black neck stilt continues at nickerson4:30pm



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[nysbirds-l] Black necked stilt Nickerson Beach Nassau co.

2019-04-21 Thread ArieGilbert
Posting for Steve Walter who reports a black necked stilt along with am golden 
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[nysbirds-l] Black necked stilt Nickerson Beach Nassau co.

2019-04-21 Thread ArieGilbert
Posting for Steve Walter who reports a black necked stilt along with am golden 
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[nysbirds-l] Prothonotary warbler Kings co.

2019-04-19 Thread ArieGilbert
On peninsula opposite terrace bridge

viewed from this location at 12.41 on 4-19-19

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[nysbirds-l] Prothonotary warbler Kings co.

2019-04-19 Thread ArieGilbert
On peninsula opposite terrace bridge

viewed from this location at 12.41 on 4-19-19

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[nysbirds-l] Calverton Red Crossbill info

2019-03-30 Thread ArieGilbert
To get to the trailhead copy and paste the address below into googull maps. 
There is LIMITED  pull-outs along this road and it is a "quiet" area so 
*please* be respectful of the local residents. 
137 Schultz Rd, Manorville, NY 11949
Once you have courteously parked. You will see a trail on the west side of the 
road. Close inspection will reveal it says paumonok on the blue blaze. 
Continue on to the area on the following map link. 
HTTP://MAPS.GOOGLE.COM/maps?q=40.88511162,-72.83104252
There were numerous birds in this area of multiple species. Siskin goldfinch 
both nuthatches junco sparrows. Wpeckers etc. 

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[nysbirds-l] Calverton Red Crossbill info

2019-03-30 Thread ArieGilbert
To get to the trailhead copy and paste the address below into googull maps. 
There is LIMITED  pull-outs along this road and it is a "quiet" area so 
*please* be respectful of the local residents. 
137 Schultz Rd, Manorville, NY 11949
Once you have courteously parked. You will see a trail on the west side of the 
road. Close inspection will reveal it says paumonok on the blue blaze. 
Continue on to the area on the following map link. 
HTTP://MAPS.GOOGLE.COM/maps?q=40.88511162,-72.83104252
There were numerous birds in this area of multiple species. Siskin goldfinch 
both nuthatches junco sparrows. Wpeckers etc. 

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Black headed Gull CORRECTED. NOT >fort pond Montauk Lake

2019-02-05 Thread ArieGilbert
CORRECTION 
The location as indicated in the map is Lake Montauk at South Lake Drive

The was also an Iceland Gull at the West jetty. 


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Re: [nysbirds-l] Black headed Gull CORRECTED. NOT >fort pond Montauk Lake

2019-02-05 Thread ArieGilbert
CORRECTION 
The location as indicated in the map is Lake Montauk at South Lake Drive

The was also an Iceland Gull at the West jetty. 


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[nysbirds-l] Black headed Gull fort pond

2019-02-05 Thread ArieGilbert

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[nysbirds-l] Black headed Gull fort pond

2019-02-05 Thread ArieGilbert

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[nysbirds-l] Buff breasted Sandpiper Hecksher stpk field 7

2018-08-30 Thread ArieGilbert
viewed from this location at 18.07 on 8-30-18. In grass near entrance to the 
lot 

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[nysbirds-l] Buff breasted Sandpiper Hecksher stpk field 7

2018-08-30 Thread ArieGilbert
viewed from this location at 18.07 on 8-30-18. In grass near entrance to the 
lot 

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40.69996542,-73.16236487

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[nysbirds-l] Roseate Spoonbill in NY YES. 6pm Aug 2.

2018-08-02 Thread ArieGilbert
Bob Proniewich and I went to Wallkill nwr today in the morning and observed the 
spoonbill in its usual spot on the west trail in the cut south of the water 
control and water depth meter. 
Much as we hoped, when it flew a few times it never ventured anywhere near to 
the NY border. 
We left to get food after a while and then went on a fruitless search for the 
previously reported anhinga. No luck. 
We returned to wallkill after we concluded the anhinga was not gettable and 
after the rain stopped we went back to get another look. 
We were joined by Bill Weissman and we brought him to the area and located the 
bird for him. 
By around 6pm we decided to depart, and unbeknownst to us it took off north 
some time after we did. Bill called me but I was out of cell phone range. 
When we emerged from tree covered section of the trail near the berm, I spotted 
a large bird flying south from near oil city road. It was a spoonbill, and my 
immediate thought was that it was a second bird!! 
We watched it fly south and we made haste to go back to where we had it before 
and determine if it was the bird or another. 
 Bill confirmed it had flown north, and while it was not a second bird Bob and 
I were elated at our good fortune. 
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[nysbirds-l] Roseate Spoonbill in NY YES. 6pm Aug 2.

2018-08-02 Thread ArieGilbert
Bob Proniewich and I went to Wallkill nwr today in the morning and observed the 
spoonbill in its usual spot on the west trail in the cut south of the water 
control and water depth meter. 
Much as we hoped, when it flew a few times it never ventured anywhere near to 
the NY border. 
We left to get food after a while and then went on a fruitless search for the 
previously reported anhinga. No luck. 
We returned to wallkill after we concluded the anhinga was not gettable and 
after the rain stopped we went back to get another look. 
We were joined by Bill Weissman and we brought him to the area and located the 
bird for him. 
By around 6pm we decided to depart, and unbeknownst to us it took off north 
some time after we did. Bill called me but I was out of cell phone range. 
When we emerged from tree covered section of the trail near the berm, I spotted 
a large bird flying south from near oil city road. It was a spoonbill, and my 
immediate thought was that it was a second bird!! 
We watched it fly south and we made haste to go back to where we had it before 
and determine if it was the bird or another. 
 Bill confirmed it had flown north, and while it was not a second bird Bob and 
I were elated at our good fortune. 
Arie GilbertNorth Babylon NY 
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