Re: [oauth] Is OAuth death?

2012-09-26 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Thanks for your input Nate. 

To the questions others had below earlier I was wondering whether it is known 
that the IETF tools page shows the current status of all documents. Here is the 
link: http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/oauth/

So, for draft-ietf-oauth-v2-31 it says that it is with the RFC Editor. 
The RFC Editor reads through the documents and corrects editorial bugs. 
 
On Sep 25, 2012, at 9:48 PM, Nate Ferrero wrote:

 Just a note from the perspective of someone who just created an OAuth 
 provider library for my company. OAuth 2 allows for relatively high security 
 (tokens expire every hour for us, and no client secret is passed to the front 
 end). I think people should just start implementing it in a limited way to 
 satisfy their needs.
 
 On Thursday, August 2, 2012 10:11:49 PM UTC-7, =nat wrote:
 There is one glitch to be sort out: the mime type for form encoding is not 
 IANA registered. It should be registered by W3C. 
 However, I expect it to be sort out pretty quickly. 
 
 Hannes, do you have any comment? 
 
 Nat
 
 On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Steven WIllmott ste...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Nat, 
 
 Yes, indeed - just saw that on twitter, after sending the below. That's good 
 news - do you know what the expectation is for finalization?
 
  thanks and all the best,
  steve.
 
 On Aug 1, 2012, at 11:42 PM, Nat Sakimura wrote:
 
 Hi Steve, 
 
 Actually, the OAuth 2.0 Core and Bearer specs were approved by IESG to be 
 sent to RFC Editor as of today. 
 That means, it is essentially done. 
 
 Nat
 
 On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Steven WIllmott ste...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Hannes,
 
 Thanks for your answer - I can definitely understand the sentiments and of 
 course as you mentioned before there is more than one side of the story and 
 this absolutely isn't one person's decision! Also maybe official statements 
 are not appropriate / possible but I would ask (and I think a lot of people 
 would):
 
  1. Will the IETF group complete the process and still finalize a full 
 specification as forseen? (and in the
  timeframe forseen - I think the charter runs to 2013 if I'm not wrong.
 
  2. Will there be any activity which takes on board / responds to some of 
 the points made by Eran? (Note
  I'm not saying there is an obligation - just that it feels like some 
 acknowledgement would make sense
  and a idea that the comments had been received and considered (or 
 not)).
 
 You stated that Eran would disagree - which may be true of course, but I 
 don't think this is a reason not to make statements.
 
 I guess what I'm trying to say above all is that people will be trying to 
 make decisions about adoption and it would be helpful to have a forward 
 looking statement from the IETF group as to where things are headed. Even if 
 this is not at all in doubt for the group, it might be when seen from the 
 outside.
 
 Don't know if that makes some kind of sense.
 
  steve.
 
 On Aug 1, 2012, at 2:42 PM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
 
  Hi Steven,
 
  I don't think there will be a formal response and here are the reasons:
 
  a) the press does not seem to be interested to spend time looking at 
  details since otherwise they would have at least gotten more input prior 
  to post their stories. They did, however, only copy text from Eran's blog 
  post.
 
  b) Eran is not likely to agree with us regardless of what we write. He did 
  not care about the views of others during the past few years either.
 
  c) Those who had worked on an implementation and deployed OAuth 2.0 do not 
  need any formal response from us. They have already experienced OAuth 2.0 
  and they, as many posts confirm, do not find it complicated to implement 
  nor to deploy.
 
  d) Those who are thinking about using OAuth 2.0 need to think what they 
  are trying to accomplish. Those trying to write their own OAuth 2.0 
  library will have to read through the specification. There is no way 
  around it. Application developers, who are just using OAuth, will have to 
  think about their use case. For example, if you want to write an 
  application that uses Facebook then you will have to look at their SDK. 
  For all the others who are creating their own application deployment (like 
  a site that offers access to a protected resource) I suggest to re-use one 
  of the existing libraries (instead of implementing OAuth from scratch).
  For this group I doubt they are interested in any standardization related 
  discussion.
 
  I hope that this makes sense to you. If you have any recommendations of 
  what guidance developers would like to see I am sure we can put some 
  information together.
 
  Ciao
  Hannes
 
  On Jul 29, 2012, at 4:31 PM, Steven WIllmott wrote:
 
  Hi Hannes,
 
  Do you think there will some sort of (semi?)formal response from the IETF 
  group? I can understand that they might not want to, but some of the 
  points made seem salient, the problem is/will become what recommendations 
  go out to 

Re: [oauth] Is OAuth death?

2012-08-02 Thread Nat Sakimura
Hi Steve,

Actually, the OAuth 2.0 Core and Bearer specs were approved by IESG to be
sent to RFC Editor as of today.
That means, it is essentially done.

Nat

On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Steven WIllmott stev...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Hannes,

 Thanks for your answer - I can definitely understand the sentiments and of
 course as you mentioned before there is more than one side of the story and
 this absolutely isn't one person's decision! Also maybe official statements
 are not appropriate / possible but I would ask (and I think a lot of people
 would):

  1. Will the IETF group complete the process and still finalize a full
 specification as forseen? (and in the
  timeframe forseen - I think the charter runs to 2013 if I'm not wrong.

  2. Will there be any activity which takes on board / responds to some of
 the points made by Eran? (Note
  I'm not saying there is an obligation - just that it feels like some
 acknowledgement would make sense
  and a idea that the comments had been received and considered (or
 not)).

 You stated that Eran would disagree - which may be true of course, but I
 don't think this is a reason not to make statements.

 I guess what I'm trying to say above all is that people will be trying to
 make decisions about adoption and it would be helpful to have a forward
 looking statement from the IETF group as to where things are headed. Even
 if this is not at all in doubt for the group, it might be when seen from
 the outside.

 Don't know if that makes some kind of sense.

  steve.

 On Aug 1, 2012, at 2:42 PM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:

  Hi Steven,
 
  I don't think there will be a formal response and here are the reasons:
 
  a) the press does not seem to be interested to spend time looking at
 details since otherwise they would have at least gotten more input prior to
 post their stories. They did, however, only copy text from Eran's blog post.
 
  b) Eran is not likely to agree with us regardless of what we write. He
 did not care about the views of others during the past few years either.
 
  c) Those who had worked on an implementation and deployed OAuth 2.0 do
 not need any formal response from us. They have already experienced OAuth
 2.0 and they, as many posts confirm, do not find it complicated to
 implement nor to deploy.
 
  d) Those who are thinking about using OAuth 2.0 need to think what they
 are trying to accomplish. Those trying to write their own OAuth 2.0 library
 will have to read through the specification. There is no way around it.
 Application developers, who are just using OAuth, will have to think about
 their use case. For example, if you want to write an application that uses
 Facebook then you will have to look at their SDK. For all the others who
 are creating their own application deployment (like a site that offers
 access to a protected resource) I suggest to re-use one of the existing
 libraries (instead of implementing OAuth from scratch).
  For this group I doubt they are interested in any standardization
 related discussion.
 
  I hope that this makes sense to you. If you have any recommendations of
 what guidance developers would like to see I am sure we can put some
 information together.
 
  Ciao
  Hannes
 
  On Jul 29, 2012, at 4:31 PM, Steven WIllmott wrote:
 
  Hi Hannes,
 
  Do you think there will some sort of (semi?)formal response from the
 IETF group? I can understand that they might not want to, but some of the
 points made seem salient, the problem is/will become what recommendations
 go out to people what to implement.
 
  We get that question very regularly from users, so we have our thinking
 caps on at the moment.
 
  steve.
 
  On Jul 29, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
  Thanks for sharing your views, Steve.
 
  I agree with your statements below and it would indeed be strange if
 Eran gets to decide that a technology dies (that is already widely
 implemented and deployed).
 
  I would have liked to get the specification finished earlier myself
 and, funny enough, Eran is also responsible for the delay (although not the
 only person).
 
 
  On Jul 29, 2012, at 2:38 PM, Steven WIllmott wrote:
 
 
  I certainly don't think it's dead - Eran makes some important points
 and the current 2.0 spec has certainly dragged a long time to get final.
 The biggest concern is fragmentation between implementations - the
 suggestion of using a concrete instantiation (e.g. Facebook) only take you
 so far.
 
  The IETF group is still a legitimate body, with a legitimate process
 - however given the nature of the criticisms and who they come from, I'd
 hope someone from that group steps forward and outlines a response and --
 for the legitimate comments perhaps an evolutionary path.
 
  There are also some other potential efforts to monkey patch oAuth
 1.0a - eg. see: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4294959, but who
 knows where these will go.
 
  I wouldn't call oAuth dead - it's the best pattern we have for this
 

Re: [oauth] Is OAuth death?

2012-08-02 Thread Steven WIllmott
Hi Nat, 

Yes, indeed - just saw that on twitter, after sending the below. That's good 
news - do you know what the expectation is for finalization?

 thanks and all the best,
 steve.

On Aug 1, 2012, at 11:42 PM, Nat Sakimura wrote:

 Hi Steve, 
 
 Actually, the OAuth 2.0 Core and Bearer specs were approved by IESG to be 
 sent to RFC Editor as of today. 
 That means, it is essentially done. 
 
 Nat
 
 On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Steven WIllmott stev...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Hannes,
 
 Thanks for your answer - I can definitely understand the sentiments and of 
 course as you mentioned before there is more than one side of the story and 
 this absolutely isn't one person's decision! Also maybe official statements 
 are not appropriate / possible but I would ask (and I think a lot of people 
 would):
 
  1. Will the IETF group complete the process and still finalize a full 
 specification as forseen? (and in the
  timeframe forseen - I think the charter runs to 2013 if I'm not wrong.
 
  2. Will there be any activity which takes on board / responds to some of the 
 points made by Eran? (Note
  I'm not saying there is an obligation - just that it feels like some 
 acknowledgement would make sense
  and a idea that the comments had been received and considered (or 
 not)).
 
 You stated that Eran would disagree - which may be true of course, but I 
 don't think this is a reason not to make statements.
 
 I guess what I'm trying to say above all is that people will be trying to 
 make decisions about adoption and it would be helpful to have a forward 
 looking statement from the IETF group as to where things are headed. Even if 
 this is not at all in doubt for the group, it might be when seen from the 
 outside.
 
 Don't know if that makes some kind of sense.
 
  steve.
 
 On Aug 1, 2012, at 2:42 PM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
 
  Hi Steven,
 
  I don't think there will be a formal response and here are the reasons:
 
  a) the press does not seem to be interested to spend time looking at 
  details since otherwise they would have at least gotten more input prior to 
  post their stories. They did, however, only copy text from Eran's blog post.
 
  b) Eran is not likely to agree with us regardless of what we write. He did 
  not care about the views of others during the past few years either.
 
  c) Those who had worked on an implementation and deployed OAuth 2.0 do not 
  need any formal response from us. They have already experienced OAuth 2.0 
  and they, as many posts confirm, do not find it complicated to implement 
  nor to deploy.
 
  d) Those who are thinking about using OAuth 2.0 need to think what they are 
  trying to accomplish. Those trying to write their own OAuth 2.0 library 
  will have to read through the specification. There is no way around it. 
  Application developers, who are just using OAuth, will have to think about 
  their use case. For example, if you want to write an application that uses 
  Facebook then you will have to look at their SDK. For all the others who 
  are creating their own application deployment (like a site that offers 
  access to a protected resource) I suggest to re-use one of the existing 
  libraries (instead of implementing OAuth from scratch).
  For this group I doubt they are interested in any standardization related 
  discussion.
 
  I hope that this makes sense to you. If you have any recommendations of 
  what guidance developers would like to see I am sure we can put some 
  information together.
 
  Ciao
  Hannes
 
  On Jul 29, 2012, at 4:31 PM, Steven WIllmott wrote:
 
  Hi Hannes,
 
  Do you think there will some sort of (semi?)formal response from the IETF 
  group? I can understand that they might not want to, but some of the 
  points made seem salient, the problem is/will become what recommendations 
  go out to people what to implement.
 
  We get that question very regularly from users, so we have our thinking 
  caps on at the moment.
 
  steve.
 
  On Jul 29, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
  Thanks for sharing your views, Steve.
 
  I agree with your statements below and it would indeed be strange if Eran 
  gets to decide that a technology dies (that is already widely implemented 
  and deployed).
 
  I would have liked to get the specification finished earlier myself and, 
  funny enough, Eran is also responsible for the delay (although not the 
  only person).
 
 
  On Jul 29, 2012, at 2:38 PM, Steven WIllmott wrote:
 
 
  I certainly don't think it's dead - Eran makes some important points and 
  the current 2.0 spec has certainly dragged a long time to get final. The 
  biggest concern is fragmentation between implementations - the 
  suggestion of using a concrete instantiation (e.g. Facebook) only take 
  you so far.
 
  The IETF group is still a legitimate body, with a legitimate process - 
  however given the nature of the criticisms and who they come from, I'd 
  hope someone from that group steps forward 

Re: [oauth] Is OAuth death?

2012-08-02 Thread Nat Sakimura
There is one glitch to be sort out: the mime type for form encoding is not
IANA registered. It should be registered by W3C.
However, I expect it to be sort out pretty quickly.

Hannes, do you have any comment?

Nat

On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Steven WIllmott stev...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Nat,

 Yes, indeed - just saw that on twitter, after sending the below. That's
 good news - do you know what the expectation is for finalization?

  thanks and all the best,
  steve.

 On Aug 1, 2012, at 11:42 PM, Nat Sakimura wrote:

 Hi Steve,

 Actually, the OAuth 2.0 Core and Bearer specs were approved by IESG to be
 sent to RFC Editor as of today.
 That means, it is essentially done.

 Nat

 On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Steven WIllmott stev...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Hannes,

 Thanks for your answer - I can definitely understand the sentiments and
 of course as you mentioned before there is more than one side of the story
 and this absolutely isn't one person's decision! Also maybe official
 statements are not appropriate / possible but I would ask (and I think a
 lot of people would):

  1. Will the IETF group complete the process and still finalize a full
 specification as forseen? (and in the
  timeframe forseen - I think the charter runs to 2013 if I'm not
 wrong.

  2. Will there be any activity which takes on board / responds to some of
 the points made by Eran? (Note
  I'm not saying there is an obligation - just that it feels like some
 acknowledgement would make sense
  and a idea that the comments had been received and considered (or
 not)).

 You stated that Eran would disagree - which may be true of course, but I
 don't think this is a reason not to make statements.

 I guess what I'm trying to say above all is that people will be trying to
 make decisions about adoption and it would be helpful to have a forward
 looking statement from the IETF group as to where things are headed. Even
 if this is not at all in doubt for the group, it might be when seen from
 the outside.

 Don't know if that makes some kind of sense.

  steve.

 On Aug 1, 2012, at 2:42 PM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:

  Hi Steven,
 
  I don't think there will be a formal response and here are the reasons:
 
  a) the press does not seem to be interested to spend time looking at
 details since otherwise they would have at least gotten more input prior to
 post their stories. They did, however, only copy text from Eran's blog post.
 
  b) Eran is not likely to agree with us regardless of what we write. He
 did not care about the views of others during the past few years either.
 
  c) Those who had worked on an implementation and deployed OAuth 2.0 do
 not need any formal response from us. They have already experienced OAuth
 2.0 and they, as many posts confirm, do not find it complicated to
 implement nor to deploy.
 
  d) Those who are thinking about using OAuth 2.0 need to think what they
 are trying to accomplish. Those trying to write their own OAuth 2.0 library
 will have to read through the specification. There is no way around it.
 Application developers, who are just using OAuth, will have to think about
 their use case. For example, if you want to write an application that uses
 Facebook then you will have to look at their SDK. For all the others who
 are creating their own application deployment (like a site that offers
 access to a protected resource) I suggest to re-use one of the existing
 libraries (instead of implementing OAuth from scratch).
  For this group I doubt they are interested in any standardization
 related discussion.
 
  I hope that this makes sense to you. If you have any recommendations of
 what guidance developers would like to see I am sure we can put some
 information together.
 
  Ciao
  Hannes
 
  On Jul 29, 2012, at 4:31 PM, Steven WIllmott wrote:
 
  Hi Hannes,
 
  Do you think there will some sort of (semi?)formal response from the
 IETF group? I can understand that they might not want to, but some of the
 points made seem salient, the problem is/will become what recommendations
 go out to people what to implement.
 
  We get that question very regularly from users, so we have our
 thinking caps on at the moment.
 
  steve.
 
  On Jul 29, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
  Thanks for sharing your views, Steve.
 
  I agree with your statements below and it would indeed be strange if
 Eran gets to decide that a technology dies (that is already widely
 implemented and deployed).
 
  I would have liked to get the specification finished earlier myself
 and, funny enough, Eran is also responsible for the delay (although not the
 only person).
 
 
  On Jul 29, 2012, at 2:38 PM, Steven WIllmott wrote:
 
 
  I certainly don't think it's dead - Eran makes some important points
 and the current 2.0 spec has certainly dragged a long time to get final.
 The biggest concern is fragmentation between implementations - the
 suggestion of using a concrete instantiation (e.g. Facebook) only take 

Re: [oauth] Is OAuth death?

2012-07-29 Thread André Fiedler
OAuth 2.0 and the Road to Hell:
http://hueniverse.com/2012/07/oauth-2-0-and-the-road-to-hell/


2012/4/15 Hannes Tschofenig hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net

 You can subscribe to the IETF OAuth mailing list here:
 http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/oauth/charter/

 (On the left side you can find the links to the subscribe page as well as
 to the archive. If you look at the archive at
 http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/oauth/current/maillist.html you will
 notice that there are a few mails since May 2009...)

 On Mar 21, 2012, at 11:06 AM, André Fiedler wrote:

  Ok, many thanks for your answers. So I will build upon OAuth (OAuth
 Provider) and hope this is the right step.
 
  2012/3/21 Nat Sakimura sakim...@gmail.com
  So it has moved on to IETF from oauth.org.
 
  Google, Facebook among others have been implementing OAuth 2.0 various
 revisions to this date.
  OAuth 2.0 in IETF is near its completion.
 
  Best,
 
  Nat
 
 
  On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 4:16 AM, SunboX fiedler.an...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
  Last Blog-Post on oauth.net is from may 2009. All php libraries are
  sleeping since one year (http://code.google.com/p/oauth-php/source/
  list).
  Who did see OAuth 2.0 somewhere?
 
  Is OAuth death?
 
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Re: [oauth] Is OAuth death?

2012-07-29 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Thanks for sharing your views, Steve. 

I agree with your statements below and it would indeed be strange if Eran gets 
to decide that a technology dies (that is already widely implemented and 
deployed).

I would have liked to get the specification finished earlier myself and, funny 
enough, Eran is also responsible for the delay (although not the only person). 


On Jul 29, 2012, at 2:38 PM, Steven WIllmott wrote:

 
 I certainly don't think it's dead - Eran makes some important points and the 
 current 2.0 spec has certainly dragged a long time to get final. The biggest 
 concern is fragmentation between implementations - the suggestion of using a 
 concrete instantiation (e.g. Facebook) only take you so far. 
 
 The IETF group is still a legitimate body, with a legitimate process - 
 however given the nature of the criticisms and who they come from, I'd hope 
 someone from that group steps forward and outlines a response and -- for the 
 legitimate comments perhaps an evolutionary path. 
 
 There are also some other potential efforts to monkey patch oAuth 1.0a - eg. 
 see: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4294959, but who knows where these 
 will go.
 
 I wouldn't call oAuth dead - it's the best pattern we have for this kind of 
 thing, but there's certainly a danger of fragmentation right now.
 
  steve.
 
 
 On Jul 29, 2012, at 6:24 AM, André Fiedler wrote:
 
 OAuth 2.0 and the Road to Hell:
 http://hueniverse.com/2012/07/oauth-2-0-and-the-road-to-hell/
 
 
 2012/4/15 Hannes Tschofenig hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net
 You can subscribe to the IETF OAuth mailing list here:
 http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/oauth/charter/
 
 (On the left side you can find the links to the subscribe page as well as to 
 the archive. If you look at the archive at 
 http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/oauth/current/maillist.html you will 
 notice that there are a few mails since May 2009...)
 
 On Mar 21, 2012, at 11:06 AM, André Fiedler wrote:
 
  Ok, many thanks for your answers. So I will build upon OAuth (OAuth 
  Provider) and hope this is the right step.
 
  2012/3/21 Nat Sakimura sakim...@gmail.com
  So it has moved on to IETF from oauth.org.
 
  Google, Facebook among others have been implementing OAuth 2.0 various 
  revisions to this date.
  OAuth 2.0 in IETF is near its completion.
 
  Best,
 
  Nat
 
 
  On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 4:16 AM, SunboX fiedler.an...@googlemail.com 
  wrote:
  Last Blog-Post on oauth.net is from may 2009. All php libraries are
  sleeping since one year (http://code.google.com/p/oauth-php/source/
  list).
  Who did see OAuth 2.0 somewhere?
 
  Is OAuth death?
 
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Re: [oauth] Is OAuth death?

2012-04-15 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
You can subscribe to the IETF OAuth mailing list here: 
http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/oauth/charter/

(On the left side you can find the links to the subscribe page as well as to 
the archive. If you look at the archive at 
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/oauth/current/maillist.html you will 
notice that there are a few mails since May 2009...)

On Mar 21, 2012, at 11:06 AM, André Fiedler wrote:

 Ok, many thanks for your answers. So I will build upon OAuth (OAuth Provider) 
 and hope this is the right step.
 
 2012/3/21 Nat Sakimura sakim...@gmail.com
 So it has moved on to IETF from oauth.org. 
 
 Google, Facebook among others have been implementing OAuth 2.0 various 
 revisions to this date. 
 OAuth 2.0 in IETF is near its completion. 
 
 Best, 
 
 Nat
 
 
 On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 4:16 AM, SunboX fiedler.an...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Last Blog-Post on oauth.net is from may 2009. All php libraries are
 sleeping since one year (http://code.google.com/p/oauth-php/source/
 list).
 Who did see OAuth 2.0 somewhere?
 
 Is OAuth death?
 
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Re: [oauth] Is OAuth death?

2012-03-20 Thread Nat Sakimura
So it has moved on to IETF from oauth.org.

Google, Facebook among others have been implementing OAuth 2.0 various
revisions to this date.
OAuth 2.0 in IETF is near its completion.

Best,

Nat

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 4:16 AM, SunboX fiedler.an...@googlemail.comwrote:

 Last Blog-Post on oauth.net is from may 2009. All php libraries are
 sleeping since one year (http://code.google.com/p/oauth-php/source/
 list).
 Who did see OAuth 2.0 somewhere?

 Is OAuth death?

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