Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Skenario Selasa 16 Mei 2006

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Karno Edy





Wa masih percaya sama skenario 2
Tutup bukan di low, minimal 10 s/d 20 point 
di atas low.

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  Halim 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Poster film horor IHSG tahun ini

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Sjaiful Bahri



Marvin Minsky profesor komputer dari MIT menyebutkan
ada positive expertise dan negative expertise. Makanya
harus berfikir positif dan juga berfikir negatif.
Karena akan selalu terjadi + atau -, cuma berapa kali
plus dan berapa kali minus...? jawabannya akan selalu
fuzzy. Kecuali bandar akan tahu pasti, lha karena dia
yg punya capital gede, yg repot kalau bandar saling
perang, akan fuzzy lagi jawabannya... :-)





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Balasan: [obrolan-bandar] Hot Money

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik indonesian trader



Rupiah  IHSG Turun
Dana Asing Masih Parkir di RI
Dadan Kuswaraharja - detikcom
 Jakarta - Turunnya nilai tukar rupiah dan Indeks
Harga Saham Gabungan (IHSG) saat ini, diyakini sebagai
koreksi normal biasa. Menteri Keuangan (Menkeu) Sri
Mulyani optimistis dana-dana asing yang parkir di
Indonesia belum keluar.

Dari sisi komposisi pemain menurut saya tidak ada
alasan untuk terjadinya reverse capital outlook, kalau
terjadi profit taking mungkin saja terjadi pada
sekelompok pembawa dana atau hedge fund, ujar Menkeu.

Hal itu disampaikan Menkeu, usai melantik pejabat
eselon II di lingkungan Bapepam dan DJLK, Ditjen
Piutang dan Lelang Negara, Sekretariat Jenderal, serta
Badan Pendidikan dan Pelatihan Keuangan Departemen
Keuangan (Depkeu), di Gedung Depkeu, Jalan Lapangan
Banteng, Jakarta, Selasa (16/5/2006).

Menkeu menjelaskan, dana asing yang masuk saat ini
masih tetap bertahan di Sertifikat Bank Indonesia
(SBI) dan Surat Utang Negara (SUN). Hal ini didasarkan
perilaku investasi dari investor SBI maupun SUN yang
bersifat jangka menengah (medium term).

Menkeu menegaskan, koreksi yang terjadi di pasar saham
dan rupiah saat ini, tidak serta merta membuat
pemerintah melakukan perubahan kebijakan.

Apalagi penurunan ini, lebih karena pengaruh pasar
global dan regional yang sulit dihindari. Sehingga
pemerintah menganggap tidak perlu melakukan perubahan
drastis.

Saya rasa nanti dalam beberapa hari mereka akan
melakukan rasionalisasi dari respons pasar ini, tukas
Menkeu.

Menurut Menkeu, pelaku pasar juga akan
mempertimbangkan kembali kondisi perekonomian
Indonesia bila dibandingkan negara lain.

Kemarin kita menikmati terlalu cepat kenaikan IHSG
maupun kurs, koreksi yang sekarang ini merupakan
koreksi normal dari perubahan yang sistemik,
tukasnya. (ir)

--- Hari Anggono [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis:

 Seperti tulisan saya terdahulu, hot money gak bakal
 lama ngendon di satu
 tempat.
 Biasanya para fund manager asing memarkir dana kira2
 1bln-1th lalu kemudian
 cabut.
 Intervensi pasar BI cuma angin sepoi2 di tengah
 padang pasir, gak bakal
 kerasa lama.
 
 Cuma saja saya tak mendoga index bakal jatuh bebas
 dari 1500-an ke 1300-an
 dalam 3 hari.
 Wedhus tenan  !!
 
 Salam,
 
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[obrolan-bandar] Free Fall

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Yunan Yusmanto



Bener2 bikin cool aja IHSG..Kenapa ya.. ngk sampe min 200 sekalian .. kan lebih cool lagi biar  lebih berdarah gitu  Market Always Rightkeep smileling ...it's the rigt time to 
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Skenario Selasa 16 Mei 2006

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Abah










Sy mah nungguin ketok palu
dulu alias hammer.











From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karno Edy
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 11:43
AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re:
Skenario Selasa 16 Mei 2006







Wa masih percaya sama skenario 2





Tutup bukan di low, minimal 10 s/d 20 point di atas
low.







- Original Message - 





From: Teddy Halim






To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 





Sent: Tuesday, May 16,
2006 12:38 PM





Subject: Re:
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[obrolan-bandar] Free Fall

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Yunan Yusmanto



Bener2 bikin cool aja IHSG..Kenapa ya.. ngk sampe min 200 sekalian .. kan lebih cool lagi biar  lebih berdarah gitu  Market Always Rightkeep smileling ...it's the rigt time to buy?when the blood running on the street
	
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Poster film horor IHSG tahun ini

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Rudi Har



Wah, pak Oentoeng berani sekali menebak sedetail ini. Tebakan yg
kemaren bahwa balok hari ini gak akan gede kayaknya meleset tuh
hehehe. Jangan pakai taruhan pak, taruhannya portofolio masing-masing
aja hehehe.

Sebenarnya arah bursa tidak bisa untuk ditebak. Tp saya akan coba.
Rasanya penurunan bursa sudah kejauhan, harusnya atau biasanya kalau
sudah begini maka saatnya untuk rebound. However saya merasa kali ini
ada sesuatu yg TIDAK BIASA ;-)

Maka tebakan yg saya pilih adalah bahwa nilai penurunan index belum
sampai the lowest. Masih anda titik lebih rendah lg. So buat sementara
portofolio saya 100% adalah cash !

Peace...


On 5/16/06, oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Berani TARUHAN ama saya???
 Besok masih ada BALOKama JUm'at...Kamis dikasih ANGIN SURGA
 Gimana ANDA?


 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rudi Har [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Serremmm...
  2 Balok gede jatuh dari langit. Jangan anggap enteng dgn ukuran
 balok hari ini.
  Balok yg kemarin selisih high low nya = 70, yg sekarang = 73.
 
  Ayo tebakan, berapa balok lagi yg akan jatuh dari langit??
 
  Peace...





  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Poster film horor IHSG tahun ini

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Rudi Har



IHSG sudah minus -90. Balok hari ini lebih gede!

On 5/16/06, Rudi Har [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Serremmm...
 2 Balok gede jatuh dari langit. Jangan anggap enteng dgn ukuran balok hari ini.
 Balok yg kemarin selisih high low nya = 70, yg sekarang = 73.

 Ayo tebakan, berapa balok lagi yg akan jatuh dari langit??

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: [junior_Trader] Re: Poster film horor IHSG tahun ini

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik wondo aja



Iya nih Rud...kalo kita ngebor minyak ini mah udah BLOW OUT...Rudi Har [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  IHSG sudah minus -90. Balok hari ini lebih gede!On 5/16/06, Rudi Har [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Serremmm... 2 Balok gede jatuh dari langit. Jangan anggap enteng dgn ukuran balok hari ini. Balok yg kemarin selisih high low nya = 70, yg sekarang = 73. Ayo tebakan, berapa balok lagi yg akan jatuh dari langit?? Peace...
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Re: Balasan: RE: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG vs TLKM

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Cubit Aja





Loh Bang Irwan Ariston Napitupulu bukan Embah kan, 
tapi founder/owner dari milis ini kan yg minggu lalu bilang index mau ke 1350 
dalam 60 hari, yg ini ilmunya mungkin lebih tinggi lagi nih. prediksinya udah 
nyampe nih.

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  From: 
  indonesian trader 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 12:32 
PM
  Subject: Balasan: RE: Balasan: Re: 
  [obrolan-bandar] IHSG vs TLKM
  ketahuan deh nama aslinya "Embah" 
  hehe..Rgds,--- A3K [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  menulis: Ik Nen cuman ngomong di milis nya Bang Irwan 
  Napit,  Jadi kalo mau consult, kirim message ke milis 
  saham  Kalo forum OB punya pak Irwan Tedja  
 Sama2 Irwan tapi bukan family 
 Rgds / A3K   
   _   From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Abah 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 9:34 AM To: 
  obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: Balasan: Re: 
  [obrolan-bandar] IHSG vs TLKM
  Dulu di s/w nya iknen ada simulasi untuk ngitung inex. 
 _   
  From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of indonesian 
  trader Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 9:15 AM To: 
  obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] 
  IHSG vs TLKMsaya sering perhatikan, 
  setiap penurunan/kenaikan saham tlkm 1 poin(50 perak), akan 
  menyebabkan indeks naik/turun 2 poin.Thanks  
  Rgds, --- Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: 
ngawur, makanya kalau ndak ngerti jangan asal 
  tulis.  artinya bandar masih  punya banyak barang di 
  TLKM. bagaimana mungkin index  mau dihancurkan 
  sampai  -300 lah -100 saja sudah banyak mayat yang  
  bergelimpangan.  regards  
  On 5/15/06, Eddy Purnomo  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote: Kalau TLKM di minuskan 9%, 
  Index hari ini bukan  -96 tapi jadi -300.   TLKM 
  itu Senjata Pamungkas Mas. Dipakai hanya jika  sedang 
  dibutuhkan. Hari   ini sedang enggak butuh tuh. Wong Enggak 
  pake TLKM  aja index sudah bisa   
  diminuskan 96. Hue..he..he..  
 *Andri Wijaya 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: 
  IHSG -96 (6,3%), TLKM -200 (3,3%)   sedangkan rata-rata saham 
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[obrolan-bandar] sedikit saran buat milis

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik yakob ananto



Kisah perjalanan index yg naik dan turun secara dramatis, cerita pecahnya rekor indek, cerita pecahnya rekor penurunan poin terbesar sepertinya membuat banyak yg bingungTermasuk yg saya baca dari tulisan2 teman2 disini.Kebingungan yg paling kentara ialah,  banyak teman yg mulai menulis dua arah, dan gak jelas. Sebentar ngomong Up krn begini begitu, sebentar ngomong Down krn alasan lain.jadi punya 2 klaim.Klo index naik.. I've told u so. Look at claim A written by me.  Klo index turun.I've told u so. Look at claim B written by me.Mabok!!! Klo pada cari pembenaran atas dirinya sendiri. (sorry mbah, tempo hari saat mbah ngajak teman2 short TLKM di 6000an krn antisipasi turun ke 5000an, lalu kemudian mengaku tidak ambil posisi short termasuk gak etis menurutku. SORRY BANGET mohon maaf klo
 salah.)RELAX MAN!!! Gak ada yg nyalahin atas kesalahan tulisan kamu. Tapi justru sangat memuji klo anda berjiwa besar mengaku... Ya saya salah. Toh yg akhirnya pantas dipuji adalah org yg berjiwa besar. So still keep on writing guys !!!just be responsible enough with ur writings.
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Poster film horor IHSG tahun ini

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q



Bukan masalah berani tidak berani pak...
Kan KALAH MENANG cuma pake SKOR..seperti biasanya..
Kalau toh SALAH...manusiawi...tetapi begitulah PLANNED AGENDA...
ANGKA PSIKOLOGIS 1530 - 1350 PERMAINAN ANGKA SAJA
Ya nggak?

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rudi Har [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Wah, pak Oentoeng berani sekali menebak sedetail ini. Tebakan yg
 kemaren bahwa balok hari ini gak akan gede kayaknya meleset tuh
 hehehe. Jangan pakai taruhan pak, taruhannya portofolio masing-
masing
 aja hehehe.
 
 Sebenarnya arah bursa tidak bisa untuk ditebak. Tp saya akan coba.
 Rasanya penurunan bursa sudah kejauhan, harusnya atau biasanya 
kalau
 sudah begini maka saatnya untuk rebound. However saya merasa kali 
ini
 ada sesuatu yg TIDAK BIASA ;-)
 
 Maka tebakan yg saya pilih adalah bahwa nilai penurunan index belum
 sampai the lowest. Masih anda titik lebih rendah lg. So buat 
sementara
 portofolio saya 100% adalah cash !
 
 Peace...
 
 
 On 5/16/06, oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Berani TARUHAN ama saya???
  Besok masih ada BALOKama JUm'at...Kamis dikasih ANGIN 
SURGA
  Gimana ANDA?
 
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rudi Har Rudi.Har@ 
wrote:
  
   Serremmm...
   2 Balok gede jatuh dari langit. Jangan anggap enteng dgn 
ukuran
  balok hari ini.
   Balok yg kemarin selisih high low nya = 70, yg sekarang = 73.
  
   Ayo tebakan, berapa balok lagi yg akan jatuh dari langit??
  
   Peace...








  




  
  
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Balasan: RE: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG vs TLKM

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q



Artinya Ilmu NGUPING-nya jauh lebih DEKAT dibandingkan KITA-KITA 
ini PASTINYA
Mana bisa KITA atau SAYA bicara banyak kalau tidak dekat BOZZ-BOZZ...
kalau KETAHUAN aja langsung PET..PET...PET TERUS.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Cubit Aja [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Loh Bang Irwan Ariston Napitupulu bukan Embah kan, tapi 
founder/owner dari milis ini kan yg minggu lalu bilang index mau ke 
1350 dalam 60 hari, yg ini ilmunya mungkin lebih tinggi lagi nih. 
prediksinya udah nyampe nih.
 - Original Message - 
 From: indonesian trader 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 12:32 PM
 Subject: Balasan: RE: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG vs TLKM
 
 
 ketahuan deh nama aslinya Embah hehe..
 
 Rgds,
 --- A3K [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis:
 
  Ik Nen cuman ngomong di milis nya Bang Irwan Napit,
  
  Jadi kalo mau consult, kirim message ke milis saham
  
  Kalo forum OB punya pak Irwan Tedja 
  
  
  
  Sama2 Irwan tapi bukan family
  
  
  
  Rgds / A3K
  
  
  
  _ 
  
  From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Abah
  Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 9:34 AM
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG vs
  TLKM
  
  
  
  Dulu di s/w nya iknen ada simulasi untuk ngitung
  inex.
  
  
  
  _ 
  
  From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of indonesian trader
  Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 9:15 AM
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG vs TLKM
  
  
  
  saya sering perhatikan, setiap penurunan/kenaikan
  saham tlkm 1 poin(50 perak), akan menyebabkan indeks
  naik/turun 2 poin.Thanks
  
  Rgds,
  --- Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis:
  
   ngawur, makanya kalau ndak ngerti jangan asal
  tulis.
   artinya bandar masih
   punya banyak barang di TLKM. bagaimana mungkin
  index
   mau dihancurkan sampai
   -300 lah -100 saja sudah banyak mayat yang
   bergelimpangan.
   regards
   
   
   On 5/15/06, Eddy Purnomo
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Kalau TLKM di minuskan 9%, Index hari ini bukan
   -96 tapi jadi -300.
TLKM itu Senjata Pamungkas Mas. Dipakai hanya
  jika
   sedang dibutuhkan. Hari
ini sedang enggak butuh tuh. Wong Enggak pake
  TLKM
   aja index sudah bisa
diminuskan 96.
   
Hue..he..he..
   
   
   
*Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
   
IHSG -96 (6,3%), TLKM -200 (3,3%)
sedangkan rata-rata saham blue chip yang lain
   turun 9 - 13 persen
PGAS (-9,3%)
BDMN dan ANTM (-10.7%)
BMRI (13%)
apakah artinya BANDAR masih banyak pegang TLKM
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis (why?)

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik lawlegalious



salam pak yakob...
ini bukan saran.. hehe.. TEGURAN =D
namanya juga MILIS BEBAS... 

Jam 14.50..

support CANTIK 1380
sekarang terserah PEMAIN di LAPANGAN ama YANG DIPINGGIR
hehehe...

toh ini pasar TAWAR - MENAWAR...
mau IKUT yang mana. 

bahkan dengan berdasar KEBEBASAN maka saya bisa aja BEGGING..
hehe please do me favour... haha...

Jangan Panik.. please...hehe... biar yang JENDERAL BEAR pikir ulang 
AGENDANya... BOS BESARE JUNI dah cukup lezat dan LEBIH LEZAT kan 
coba 50%... 

hehee
cheers
BoPs

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, yakob ananto [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 Kisah perjalanan index yg naik dan turun secara dramatis, cerita 
pecahnya rekor indek, cerita pecahnya rekor penurunan poin terbesar 
sepertinya membuat banyak yg bingung
 Termasuk yg saya baca dari tulisan2 teman2 disini.
 
 Kebingungan yg paling kentara ialah,
 banyak teman yg mulai menulis dua arah, dan gak jelas. 
 Sebentar ngomong Up krn begini begitu, sebentar ngomong Down krn 
alasan lain.
 jadi punya 2 klaim.
 
 Klo index naik.. 
 I've told u so. Look at claim A written by me.
 Klo index turun.
 I've told u so. Look at claim B written by me.
 
 Mabok!!! Klo pada cari pembenaran atas dirinya sendiri. 
 
 (sorry mbah, tempo hari saat mbah ngajak teman2 short TLKM di 
6000an krn antisipasi turun ke 5000an, lalu kemudian mengaku tidak 
ambil posisi short termasuk gak etis menurutku. SORRY BANGET mohon 
maaf klo salah.)
 
 RELAX MAN!!! Gak ada yg nyalahin atas kesalahan tulisan kamu. Tapi 
justru sangat memuji klo anda berjiwa besar mengaku... Ya saya salah. 
Toh yg akhirnya pantas dipuji adalah org yg berjiwa besar. 
 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q



Terimakasih sarannya pak...
yang jelas SEMUA BELON TAHU kan kalao akan ADA KENAIKAN sebesar 
PENURUNAN HARI ini dan KEMARIN?
Tunggu SAATnya...
BINGUNG-BINGUNG DAH yang CUT LOSS 2 hari ini.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, yakob ananto [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 Kisah perjalanan index yg naik dan turun secara dramatis, cerita 
pecahnya rekor indek, cerita pecahnya rekor penurunan poin terbesar 
sepertinya membuat banyak yg bingung
 Termasuk yg saya baca dari tulisan2 teman2 disini.
 
 Kebingungan yg paling kentara ialah,
 banyak teman yg mulai menulis dua arah, dan gak jelas. 
 Sebentar ngomong Up krn begini begitu, sebentar ngomong Down krn 
alasan lain.
 jadi punya 2 klaim.
 
 Klo index naik.. 
 I've told u so. Look at claim A written by me.
 Klo index turun.
 I've told u so. Look at claim B written by me.
 
 Mabok!!! Klo pada cari pembenaran atas dirinya sendiri. 
 
 (sorry mbah, tempo hari saat mbah ngajak teman2 short TLKM di 
6000an krn antisipasi turun ke 5000an, lalu kemudian mengaku tidak 
ambil posisi short termasuk gak etis menurutku. SORRY BANGET 
mohon maaf klo salah.)
 
 RELAX MAN!!! Gak ada yg nyalahin atas kesalahan tulisan kamu. 
Tapi justru sangat memuji klo anda berjiwa besar mengaku... Ya saya 
salah. Toh yg akhirnya pantas dipuji adalah org yg berjiwa besar. 
 
 So still keep on writing guys !!!
 just be responsible enough with ur writings.
 
 
 
   
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Poster film horor IHSG tahun ini

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik lawlegalious



he is almost RIGHT dude
have u read WATCH THESE STOCKS.
now stop complaining..

just WATCHING...
they are fighting

I am waiting to reduce my LOSS...
gimme ur SIGNAL dude

cheers dan lam kenal
BoPs

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rudi Har [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Wah, pak Oentoeng berani sekali menebak sedetail ini. Tebakan yg
 kemaren bahwa balok hari ini gak akan gede kayaknya meleset tuh
 hehehe. Jangan pakai taruhan pak, taruhannya portofolio masing-
masing
 aja hehehe.
 
 Sebenarnya arah bursa tidak bisa untuk ditebak. Tp saya akan coba.
 Rasanya penurunan bursa sudah kejauhan, harusnya atau biasanya kalau
 sudah begini maka saatnya untuk rebound. However saya merasa kali 
ini
 ada sesuatu yg TIDAK BIASA ;-)
 
 Maka tebakan yg saya pilih adalah bahwa nilai penurunan index belum
 sampai the lowest. Masih anda titik lebih rendah lg. So buat 
sementara
 portofolio saya 100% adalah cash !
 
 Peace...
 
 
 On 5/16/06, oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Berani TARUHAN ama saya???
  Besok masih ada BALOKama JUm'at...Kamis dikasih ANGIN SURGA..
..
  Gimana ANDA?
 
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rudi Har Rudi.Har@ 
wrote:
  
   Serremmm...
   2 Balok gede jatuh dari langit. Jangan anggap enteng dgn ukuran
  balok hari ini.
   Balok yg kemarin selisih high low nya = 70, yg sekarang = 73.
  
   Ayo tebakan, berapa balok lagi yg akan jatuh dari langit??
  
   Peace...








  




  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q



Begitulah pak...
Tunggu ntar kalau ada waktu saya buat ulasannya
Di milis lain nggak akan uraian PLANNED AGENDA kayak di OB sini...
Kecuali di MILIS BOZZ tentunya sudah tahu belon?

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Arthoer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 ...code ???
 it's time to ??? 
 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:56 PM
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis
 
 
 Terimakasih sarannya pak...
 yang jelas SEMUA BELON TAHU kan kalao akan ADA KENAIKAN sebesar 
 PENURUNAN HARI ini dan KEMARIN?
 Tunggu SAATnya...
 BINGUNG-BINGUNG DAH yang CUT LOSS 2 hari ini.
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, yakob ananto nytrogell@ 
 wrote:
 
  
  Kisah perjalanan index yg naik dan turun secara dramatis, cerita 
 pecahnya rekor indek, cerita pecahnya rekor penurunan poin 
terbesar 
 sepertinya membuat banyak yg bingung
  Termasuk yg saya baca dari tulisan2 teman2 disini.
  
  Kebingungan yg paling kentara ialah,
  banyak teman yg mulai menulis dua arah, dan gak jelas. 
  Sebentar ngomong Up krn begini begitu, sebentar ngomong Down krn 
 alasan lain.
  jadi punya 2 klaim.
  
  Klo index naik.. 
  I've told u so. Look at claim A written by me.
  Klo index turun.
  I've told u so. Look at claim B written by me.
  
  Mabok!!! Klo pada cari pembenaran atas dirinya sendiri. 
  
  (sorry mbah, tempo hari saat mbah ngajak teman2 short TLKM di 
 6000an krn antisipasi turun ke 5000an, lalu kemudian mengaku tidak 
 ambil posisi short termasuk gak etis menurutku. SORRY BANGET 
 mohon maaf klo salah.)
  
  RELAX MAN!!! Gak ada yg nyalahin atas kesalahan tulisan kamu. 
 Tapi justru sangat memuji klo anda berjiwa besar mengaku... Ya 
saya 
 salah. Toh yg akhirnya pantas dipuji adalah org yg berjiwa besar. 
  
  So still keep on writing guys !!!
  just be responsible enough with ur writings.
  
  
  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] To Mr. OENTOENG - EMBAH - BOZZKU - ETC

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik lawlegalious



Sirs.. or Guys..
keep writing...

I keep ur FILEs
WATCH THESE
USD - INDEKS.. HIGHER and LOWER
INDEKS ENGINEERING... UR BANDARMOLOGICAL

we know INDEKS doing good stuff 15.04...

I still reduce my loss

Pak Vibby... what do U have know... if i could know... hehe...

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Skenario Selasa 16 Mei 2006

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Odink
On Tue, 16 May 2006 13:40:53 +0700, Abah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sy mah nungguin ketok palu dulu alias hammer.


hehee kl ane nungguin PTBA 3150 buat jemput.. kl gak dijemput ya liburan  
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[obrolan-bandar] AKROBAT JAKARTA....

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik ALX




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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik yakob ananto



KEEP ON WRITING MR.OENTOENG.oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Terimakasih sarannya pak...yang jelas SEMUA BELON TAHU kan kalao akan ADA KENAIKAN sebesar PENURUNAN HARI ini dan KEMARIN?Tunggu SAATnya...BINGUNG-BINGUNG DAH yang CUT LOSS 2 hari ini.--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, yakob ananto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Kisah perjalanan index yg naik dan turun secara dramatis, cerita pecahnya rekor indek, cerita pecahnya rekor penurunan poin terbesar sepertinya membuat banyak yg bingung Termasuk yg saya baca dari tulisan2 teman2 disini.  Kebingungan yg paling kentara ialah, banyak teman yg mulai menulis dua arah, dan gak jelas.  Sebentar ngomong Up krn begini begitu, sebentar ngomong Down
 krn alasan lain. jadi punya 2 klaim.  Klo index naik..  I've told u so. Look at claim A written by me. Klo index turun. I've told u so. Look at claim B written by me.  Mabok!!! Klo pada cari pembenaran atas dirinya sendiri.   (sorry mbah, tempo hari saat mbah ngajak teman2 short TLKM di 6000an krn antisipasi turun ke 5000an, lalu kemudian mengaku tidak ambil posisi short termasuk gak etis menurutku. SORRY BANGET mohon maaf klo salah.)  RELAX MAN!!! Gak ada yg nyalahin atas kesalahan tulisan kamu. Tapi justru sangat memuji klo anda berjiwa besar mengaku... Ya saya salah. Toh yg akhirnya pantas dipuji adalah org yg berjiwa besar.   So still keep on writing guys !!! just
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Triwira Juniarta






milis BOZZ alamatnya apa pak oentoeng?

oentoeng_q wrote:
Begitulah
pak...
Tunggu ntar kalau ada waktu saya buat ulasannya
Di milis lain nggak akan uraian PLANNED AGENDA kayak di OB sini...
Kecuali di MILIS BOZZ tentunya sudah tahu belon?
  
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Arthoer"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 ...code ???
 it's time to ??? 
 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: "oentoeng_q" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:56 PM
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis
 
 
 Terimakasih sarannya pak...
 yang jelas SEMUA BELON TAHU kan kalao akan ADA KENAIKAN sebesar 
 PENURUNAN HARI ini dan KEMARIN?
 Tunggu SAATnya...
 BINGUNG-BINGUNG DAH yang CUT LOSS 2 hari ini.
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, yakob ananto
nytrogell@ 
 wrote:
 
  
  Kisah perjalanan index yg naik dan turun secara dramatis,
cerita 
 pecahnya rekor indek, cerita pecahnya rekor penurunan poin 
terbesar 
 sepertinya membuat banyak yg bingung
  Termasuk yg saya baca dari tulisan2 teman2 disini.
  
  Kebingungan yg paling kentara ialah,
  banyak teman yg mulai menulis dua arah, dan gak jelas. 
  Sebentar ngomong Up krn begini begitu, sebentar ngomong Down
krn 
 alasan lain.
  jadi punya 2 klaim.
  
  Klo index naik.. 
  I've told u so. Look at claim A written by me.
  Klo index turun.
  I've told u so. Look at claim B written by me.
  
  Mabok!!! Klo pada cari pembenaran atas dirinya sendiri. 
  
  (sorry mbah, tempo hari saat mbah ngajak teman2 short TLKM
di 
 6000an krn antisipasi turun ke 5000an, lalu kemudian mengaku tidak
  
 ambil posisi short termasuk gak etis menurutku. SORRY BANGET 
 mohon maaf klo salah.)
  
  RELAX MAN!!! Gak ada yg nyalahin atas kesalahan tulisan
kamu. 
 Tapi justru sangat memuji klo anda berjiwa besar mengaku... Ya 
saya 
 salah. Toh yg akhirnya pantas dipuji adalah org yg berjiwa besar. 
  
  So still keep on writing guys !!!
  just be responsible enough with ur writings.
  
  
  
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik yakob ananto



KEEP ON WRITING MR.OENTOENG.oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Terimakasih sarannya pak...yang jelas SEMUA BELON TAHU kan kalao akan ADA KENAIKAN sebesar PENURUNAN HARI ini dan KEMARIN?Tunggu SAATnya...BINGUNG-BINGUNG DAH yang CUT LOSS 2 hari ini.--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, yakob ananto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Kisah perjalanan index yg naik dan turun secara dramatis, cerita pecahnya rekor indek, cerita pecahnya rekor penurunan poin terbesar sepertinya membuat banyak yg bingung Termasuk yg saya baca dari tulisan2 teman2 disini.  Kebingungan yg paling kentara ialah, banyak teman yg mulai menulis dua arah, dan gak jelas.  Sebentar ngomong Up krn begini begitu, sebentar ngomong Down
 krn alasan lain. jadi punya 2 klaim.  Klo index naik..  I've told u so. Look at claim A written by me. Klo index turun. I've told u so. Look at claim B written by me.  Mabok!!! Klo pada cari pembenaran atas dirinya sendiri.   (sorry mbah, tempo hari saat mbah ngajak teman2 short TLKM di 6000an krn antisipasi turun ke 5000an, lalu kemudian mengaku tidak ambil posisi short termasuk gak etis menurutku. SORRY BANGET mohon maaf klo salah.)  RELAX MAN!!! Gak ada yg nyalahin atas kesalahan tulisan kamu. Tapi justru sangat memuji klo anda berjiwa besar mengaku... Ya saya salah. Toh yg akhirnya pantas dipuji adalah org yg berjiwa besar.   So still keep on writing guys !!! just
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] AKROBAT JAKARTA....

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Triwira Juniarta






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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik yakob ananto



KEEP ON WRITING MR.OENTOENG.oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Terimakasih sarannya pak...yang jelas SEMUA BELON TAHU kan kalao akan ADA KENAIKAN sebesar PENURUNAN HARI ini dan KEMARIN?Tunggu SAATnya...BINGUNG-BINGUNG DAH yang CUT LOSS 2 hari ini.--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, yakob ananto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Kisah perjalanan index yg naik dan turun secara dramatis, cerita pecahnya rekor indek, cerita pecahnya rekor penurunan poin terbesar sepertinya membuat banyak yg bingung Termasuk yg saya baca dari tulisan2 teman2 disini.  Kebingungan yg paling kentara ialah, banyak teman yg mulai menulis dua arah, dan gak jelas.  Sebentar ngomong Up krn begini begitu, sebentar ngomong Down
 krn alasan lain. jadi punya 2 klaim.  Klo index naik..  I've told u so. Look at claim A written by me. Klo index turun. I've told u so. Look at claim B written by me.  Mabok!!! Klo pada cari pembenaran atas dirinya sendiri.   (sorry mbah, tempo hari saat mbah ngajak teman2 short TLKM di 6000an krn antisipasi turun ke 5000an, lalu kemudian mengaku tidak ambil posisi short termasuk gak etis menurutku. SORRY BANGET mohon maaf klo salah.)  RELAX MAN!!! Gak ada yg nyalahin atas kesalahan tulisan kamu. Tapi justru sangat memuji klo anda berjiwa besar mengaku... Ya saya salah. Toh yg akhirnya pantas dipuji adalah org yg berjiwa besar.   So still keep on writing guys !!! just
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Balasan: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Poster film horor IHSG tahun ini

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Tukang Sapu



Besok naik, Kamis naik, Jumaat turun. ini pake ilmu ngecap. kita lihat hasilnya jumaat sore.oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis:Berani TARUHAN ama saya???  Besok masih ada BALOKama JUm'at...Kamis dikasih ANGIN SURGA  Gimana ANDA?--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Rudi Har" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Serremmm...   2 Balok gede jatuh dari langit. Jangan anggap enteng dgn ukuran   balok hari ini.   Balok yg kemarin selisih high low nya = 70, yg sekarang = 73.  Ayo tebakan, berapa balok lagi yg akan jatuh dari langit??  Peace...  
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[obrolan-bandar] BUY TIME !

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Others





IHSG 
reach 61% retracement.
BUY 
TIME ! GOGOGO ! Ale ale ale...




  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] The Wit and Wisdom of Peter Lynch

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Cubit Aja





The Wit and Wisdom of Peter 
LynchJanuary-4-2006By Kaushal B. Majmudar, CFA We were 
fortunate to have an opportunity to hear Peter Lynch speak at an investment 
conference in New York about a year ago. Peter is, of course, the famed 
ex-manager of the Fidelity Magellan Fund. Under his stewardship, the Magellan 
Fund, which he ran from 1977 to 1990 grew from a small $20 million fund to $14 
billion in assets when he stepped down to focus on family and other interests. 
In 1983 (just 6 years after he took over), the fund had grown to $1 billion on 
the back of Peter's exceptional performance. More specifically, according to a 
secondary source quoting Valueline, Lynch achieved an average annual return of 
29% per year over his 13 years running the Magellan Fund.Besides his 
fame as an exceptional investor who helped thousands through the fund, Peter is 
also well know for writing two very good books on investing that became best 
sellers. Peter's fund continued to perform well even as the fund became the 
largest equity fund in the country. Peter Lynch was only 46 when he retired (no 
doubt to the consternation of his many investors) at the top of his game. 
According to Peter, the fund continued to outperform the market for the next 7 
years after he left! Also interesting to students of investing and value 
investors in particular is that Peter's approach featured wide diversification 
and opportunistic flexibility to buy any company for the Magellan Fund without 
arbitrary size or value versus growth limitations (in today's parlance the fund 
had a "core" approach).In sharing his comments, Peter was exceptionally 
funny and entertaining. Though he has probably delivered some version of this 
talk many times (indeed he had a handout with his main bullet points on it - 
summarized below), he also made some comments that were clearly off the cuff. 
For example, the host of the conference was an investment bank that was very 
proud of being the bank with the highest profits per employee and after Peter 
was introduced, he quipped that "It makes you wonder why they don't hire more 
people."In any event, the meat of Peter's comments were essentially 
straightforward and very common sense oriented. Peter shared his 
rules/observations on investing (8 of them) and proceeded to share some thoughts 
on each point and then talked about 10 wrong-headed and dangerous things that 
people say (often to themselves) about investing. It never hurts to review the 
fundamentals and glean insights from superstars like Peter so we took the time 
to share the essense of his message below. After each of Peter's 
fundamentals, we provide a brief synopsis of his key comments or message 
relating to that fundamental. The discussion below includes our own observations 
on the several parallels to Warren Buffett's wisdom on investing. At The 
Ridgewood Group, we find it encouraging that many long-term successful investors 
like Peter Lynch and Warren Buffett seem to share many of the same key 
fundamentals since it means that other investors also have a fighting chance to 
learn and learn to properly apply these same fundamentals in order to become 
better investors. Peter S. Lynch's Fundamental's of Investing 1.) 
Know What You Own - Most people don't really know the reasons why they own a 
stock - you should. Ed's Note: Similar to Ben Graham and Warren Buffet's 
Businesslike Investing in your Circle of Competence2.) It is Futile to 
Predict the Economy, Interest Rates and the Stock Market(So Don't Waste Time 
Trying) - "If You Spend 13 minutes per year trying to predict the economy, you 
have wasted 10 minutes" Focus on the "facts" now at hand rather than predictions 
about the future3.) You Have Plenty of Time - to identify and recognize 
exceptional companies. If you bought WalMart AFTER it rose 10x in its first 10 
years, you got another 60x return over the next 30 years. Bottom line: Don't be 
in a rush - look at plenty of stocks, but be patient. Note: Buffett's "Wait for 
the Perfect Pitch"4.) Avoid Long Shots - his record was ZERO out of 25 
investing in companies with no revenues but a "bright future" to sell. His 
advice if you run across a company that falls into this category but still 
excites you - do nothing and write down the name. Look at it again in 6 to 12 
months and see if you still think it is good. If it is one of the good ones and 
went from 5 to 15 while you waited, per point #3 above, you probably still have 
plenty of time. Note: Following this rule could keep you out of trouble. 
Benjamin Graham and Warren Buffett talked about avoiding Speculations and 
focusing on Investments instead5.) Good Management is Very Important and 
Buy Great Businesses - good management is very important - maybe even the most 
important consideration. It may also be the most difficult item on this list to 
get right. His advice: look for good companies because a good management in a 
bad business will probably fail. "Buy 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] AKROBAT JAKARTA....

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik ALX




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Hati - hati jebakan rebound...
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Sjaiful Bahri



setuju pak, hati2 kalau cut loss dah jadi budaya,
bakalan gulung tikar... he..he..he.

cheers
iful


--- oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Terimakasih sarannya pak...
 yang jelas SEMUA BELON TAHU kan kalao akan ADA
 KENAIKAN sebesar 
 PENURUNAN HARI ini dan KEMARIN?
 Tunggu SAATnya...
 BINGUNG-BINGUNG DAH yang CUT LOSS 2 hari ini.
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, yakob ananto
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  
  Kisah perjalanan index yg naik dan turun secara
 dramatis, cerita 
 pecahnya rekor indek, cerita pecahnya rekor
 penurunan poin terbesar 
 sepertinya membuat banyak yg bingung
  Termasuk yg saya baca dari tulisan2 teman2 disini.
  
  Kebingungan yg paling kentara ialah,
  banyak teman yg mulai menulis dua arah, dan gak
 jelas. 
  Sebentar ngomong Up krn begini begitu, sebentar
 ngomong Down krn 
 alasan lain.
  jadi punya 2 klaim.
  
  Klo index naik.. 
  I've told u so. Look at claim A written by me.
  Klo index turun.
  I've told u so. Look at claim B written by me.
  
  Mabok!!! Klo pada cari pembenaran atas dirinya
 sendiri. 
  
  (sorry mbah, tempo hari saat mbah ngajak teman2
 short TLKM di 
 6000an krn antisipasi turun ke 5000an, lalu kemudian
 mengaku tidak 
 ambil posisi short termasuk gak etis menurutku.
 SORRY BANGET 
 mohon maaf klo salah.)
  
  RELAX MAN!!! Gak ada yg nyalahin atas kesalahan
 tulisan kamu. 
 Tapi justru sangat memuji klo anda berjiwa besar
 mengaku... Ya saya 
 salah. Toh yg akhirnya pantas dipuji adalah org yg
 berjiwa besar. 
  
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  just be responsible enough with ur writings.
  
  
  

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Ini hebatnya bandar ato intervensi

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Glenardo Jopie





Sekali lagi.. ampun mbah..Ciamik tenan maenan 
bandar hari ini..Ini bisa kempes gt gman nambalnya yah??Bsok bakal ditiup lagi 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] AKROBAT JAKARTA....

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik SETAN BEJ



BEJ = Bandar-E JudiSemua akan balik ke harga sebelum ditarik, mungkin plus sedikit karena bandar / boss / apalah yang memainkan peranan..  Kenaikan index akan tertahan oleh trader / retailer yang buru-buru cut loss disaat ada rebound sedikit  Kita lihat contohnya hari ini... seperti ada 2 magnet saling tarik menarik di kutub bid dan offer... buyer oleh 1 sekuritas, seller oleh beberapa sekuritas apakah ada yang memborong lagi ALX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hayo bisa positif gak ni hari
	
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Ini hebatnya bandar ato intervensi

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Oskar Syahbana



Hari ini ditutup cuma minus 1,73 kan? Ya mari sama - sama berharap besok bakalan rebound :-)Salut nih hari ini buat PTBA!On 5/16/06, Glenardo Jopie
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Oskar Syahbana



Saya sih duduk dipinggiran saja sambil ngebalut luka - luka make perban hehehe.On 5/16/06, Sjaiful Bahri [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:setuju pak, hati2 kalau cut loss dah jadi budaya,bakalan gulung tikar... he..he..he.
cheersiful--- oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terimakasih sarannya pak... yang jelas SEMUA BELON TAHU kan kalao akan ADA
 KENAIKAN sebesar PENURUNAN HARI ini dan KEMARIN? Tunggu SAATnya... BINGUNG-BINGUNG DAH yang CUT LOSS 2 hari ini. --- In 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, yakob ananto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Kisah perjalanan index yg naik dan turun secara dramatis, cerita pecahnya rekor indek, cerita pecahnya rekor
 penurunan poin terbesar sepertinya membuat banyak yg bingung  Termasuk yg saya baca dari tulisan2 teman2 disini.   Kebingungan yg paling kentara ialah,  banyak teman yg mulai menulis dua arah, dan gak
 jelas.  Sebentar ngomong Up krn begini begitu, sebentar ngomong Down krn alasan lain.  jadi punya 2 klaim.   Klo index naik..  I've told u so. Look at claim A written by me.
  Klo index turun.  I've told u so. Look at claim B written by me.   Mabok!!! Klo pada cari pembenaran atas dirinya sendiri.   (sorry mbah, tempo hari saat mbah ngajak teman2
 short TLKM di 6000an krn antisipasi turun ke 5000an, lalu kemudian mengaku tidak ambil posisi short termasuk gak etis menurutku. SORRY BANGET mohon maaf klo salah.)
   RELAX MAN!!! Gak ada yg nyalahin atas kesalahan tulisan kamu. Tapi justru sangat memuji klo anda berjiwa besar mengaku... Ya saya salah. Toh yg akhirnya pantas dipuji adalah org yg
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] elliot deui

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Abah










Kayaknya palu keluar tuh. Balik stelah
lewat 1350. berapa sih nilai transaksi sekarang ?













From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Abah
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To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] elliot
deui





Kurang 15 lagi untuk mencapai 1350. 

Dari elliotwave nya mbah maka wave yg
dipake adalah yg merah. Dan wave koreksi a, b, c sdh terjadi. ( yg mana
ya ?). Sekarang adalah wave 1, yang lagi meluncur dan blon ketemu
terminalnya. Mungkin terminalnya di 1350. wave 2, naik 23.6% atau
38.2% atau 1400  1430. lalu wave 3 turun lagi jadi 1150 (1430
(1.382 * 200). Wave 4 naik jadi 1200 an. Wave 5 turun 200, eh
ketemu deh di 1000 an. Lalu sy liat elliot wavenya mbah. He he ketemu di
garis 161.8%. cocok. Gambaran di kepala abah dgn chartnya mbah.
Kalo scenario ini maka yg dipake adalah elliotwave mbah yg biru.

Oh ya kalo kate orang yg ndaki gunung,
kalo naik pelan2 tapi turun gunungnya cepet. Tapi kalo turun gunung
  kan ada batasnya yaitu kaki gunung he he.











From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Teddy Halim
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Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re:
Skenario Selasa 16 Mei 2006





JCI
1,365.935 4 - 63.607 - 4.440
% 
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] elliot deui

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik sony rachmadi



index = doji star  sector = doji ama martil  stock = banyak juganeh yg martilbesok pelem IHSG tambah seru euyAbah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Kayaknya palu keluar tuh. Balik stelah lewat 1350. berapa sih nilai transaksi sekarang ?  From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of AbahSent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 12:25 PMTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSubject: [obrolan-bandar] elliot deuiKurang 15 lagi untuk mencapai 1350.   Dari elliotwave nya mbah maka wave yg dipake adalah yg merah. Dan wave koreksi a, b, c sdh terjadi. ( yg mana ya ?). Sekarang adalah wave 1, yang lagi meluncur dan blon ketemu terminalnya. Mungkin terminalnya di 1350. wave 2, naik 23.6% atau 38.2% atau 1400 – 1430. lalu wave 3 turun lagi jadi 1150 (1430 –(1.382 * 200). Wave 4 naik jadi 1200 an. Wave 5 turun 200, eh ketemu deh di 1000 an. Lalu sy liat elliot wavenya mbah. He he ketemu di garis 161.8%. cocok. Gambaran di kepala abah dgn chartnya mbah. Kalo scenario ini maka yg dipake adalah elliotwave mbah yg biru.  Oh ya kalo kate orang yg ndaki gunung, kalo naik pelan2 tapi turun gunungnya cepet. Tapi kalo
 turun gunung kan ada batasnya yaitu kaki gunung he he.From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Teddy HalimSent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 11:39 AMTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Skenario Selasa 16 Mei 2006JCI 1,365.935 4 - 63.607 - 4.440 % vol:1,942.187 B  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] The Wit and Wisdom of Peter Lynch

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Sjaiful Bahri



short term dan gak pernah melakukan cut loss dan masuk
dengan prosentase sedikit demi sedikit juga
diversifikasi maksimum 12 saham itu juga alternatif yg
menguntungkan... 

cheers
iful


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 Peter S. Lynch's Fundamental's of Investing 
 1.) Know What You Own - Most people don't really
 know the reasons why they own a stock - you should.
 Ed's Note: Similar to Ben Graham and Warren Buffet's
 Businesslike Investing in your Circle of Competence
 
 2.) It is Futile to Predict the Economy, Interest
 Rates and the Stock Market(So Don't Waste Time
 Trying) - If You Spend 13 minutes per year trying
 to predict the economy, you have wasted 10 minutes
 Focus on the facts now at hand rather than
 predictions about the future
 
 3.) You Have Plenty of Time - to identify and
 recognize exceptional companies. If you bought
 WalMart AFTER it rose 10x in its first 10 years, you
 got another 60x return over the next 30 years.
 Bottom line: Don't be in a rush - look at plenty of
 stocks, but be patient. Note: Buffett's Wait for
 the Perfect Pitch
 
 4.) Avoid Long Shots - his record was ZERO out of 25
 investing in companies with no revenues but a
 bright future to sell. His advice if you run
 across a company that falls into this category but
 still excites you - do nothing and write down the
 name. Look at it again in 6 to 12 months and see if
 you still think it is good. If it is one of the good
 ones and went from 5 to 15 while you waited, per
 point #3 above, you probably still have plenty of
 time. Note: Following this rule could keep you out
 of trouble. Benjamin Graham and Warren Buffett
 talked about avoiding Speculations and focusing on
 Investments instead
 
 5.) Good Management is Very Important and Buy Great
 Businesses - good management is very important -
 maybe even the most important consideration. It may
 also be the most difficult item on this list to get
 right. His advice: look for good companies because a
 good management in a bad business will probably
 fail. Buy a business any fool can manage because
 eventually one will Buffett has also observed that
 when a good management meets a bad business, it is
 the reputation of the business that generally
 prevails.
 
 6.) Be Flexible - lots of unexpected things happen,
 some good and some bad. Many of his best nvestments
 happened for the wrong reasons, i.e. his original
 thesis was off, but the investment still worked out.
 Sometimes he was absolutely right about the growth
 but the investment was still lousy and he did not
 make any money. So be flexible and humble
 
 7.) Knowing When to Sell is Hard - before you make a
 purchase, you should be able to explain why you are
 buying/own it in terms that an 11 year old could
 understand - three sentences at most. Remember this
 reason and sell the holding when the reason no
 longer continues to hold. Investing well does not
 take a genius - only need 5th grade math - so math
 has nothing to do with being a great investor
 
 8.) There is Always Something to Worry About - and
 this makes things interesting. The 1950s were one of
 the best decades to own stocks, but from a
 geopolitical basis everyone was scared of nuclear
 war. In the early 1990s, everyone was scared about
 the Japanese taking over the world and beating
 America. Not coincidentally, more all-time worst
 market days occur on Mondays because people have the
 whole weekend to WORRY. His advice is to forget
 about all the global bad stuff because the key to
 good investing is not the brain/intellect, its
 having the stomach.
 
 In addition to the above points, Peter also shared
 his Ten Most Dangerous Things People Say About Stock
 Prices reproduced below. Even more than the points
 above, Peter's good sense of humor came through when
 he discussed these old saws:
 
 1.) If it's gone down this much already, how much
 lower can it go? (answer: Zero) 
 
 2.) If it's gone this high already, how can it
 possibly go higher? (some of the best companies
 grow for decades)
 
 3.) Eventually they always come back. (no they
 don't - there are lots of counterexamples)
 
 4.) It's only $3 a share, what can I lose? ($3 for
 every share you buy)
 
 5.) It's always darkest before the dawn. (Its also
 always darkest before it goes absolutely pitch
 black. Don't buy a business just because price
 dropped and it is cheaper now)
 
 6.) When it rebounds to my cost, I'll sell. (The
 stock does not know you own it! Don't take it so
 personally Note: this comment is explained by the
 well documented psychological tendencies called loss
 aversion and anchoring bias which are talked about
 in Behavioral Finance. If you liked it at ten, you
 should love it at 6 so either buy more or sell)
 
 7.) What me worry? Conservative stocks don't
 fluctuate much. (There is no such thing as a
 conservative stock - the average stock fluctuates
 between 50% to 70% from its high to its low price
 every year. There is a graveyard where all the
 

[obrolan-bandar] Embah's TRUE story

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant



Embah's TRUE story


Hari ini embah HAMPIR engga liat milis karena lagi
ADU MENTAL berJUDI ama bandar BEJ. Cerita ini bukan untuk DICONTO 
tapi untuk TAU AJA apa itu ADU KUAT MENTAL...

Ketika IHSG mencapai retracement 32%, embah MULAI BELI karena
KATANYA menurut Elliot Wave, wave 4 biasanya STOP di 32%.

Tapi nyatanya IHSG turun lagi, embah pikir AH BIASA si BOZZ lagi
NAKUTIN, embah NAMBAH LAGI...

IHSG turun lagi ke retracement 50%, NAH si BOZZ kasih murah,
embah beli lagi buat NUTUP yang rugi TADI kalo naek...

IHSG turun LAGI, embah udah KECUT, RUGI udah puluhan JUTA,
tapi embah pikir NEKAD DEH HOLD nanti beli di RETRACEMENT FINAL 
yaitu 61,8%. Si BOZZ tambah NEKAD, IHSG bener bener diturunin
ke retracemebt 61,8%. Embah DOUBLE BELI LAGI, NEKAD DAH 

Eh TAUNYA si BOZZ ngejebolin level 61,8%, embah pikir si BOZZ
UDAH GILA mau ngelawan ELLIOT+FIBONACI. Embah udah kehabisan
TEORI. Rugi dari PULULAH JUTA udah DOUBLE atau TRIPLE dah, 
NGITUNGnya aja udah MALES, karena kalo ngeliat JUMLAH RUGI 
yg GEDE, embah bisa engga CONCENTRASI.

Embah UDAH EMOSI, muka embah bukannya PUTIH PUCAT tapi 
MERAH MARAH ama si BOZZ.. MAU ADU MENTAL, hayo EMBAH JUGA 
ngumpulin TENAGA DALAM buat PERANG MENTAL. 

Embah BERTEKAD NO CUT LOSS, BERAPA JUGA BOZZ JUAL EMBAH 
BELI  SETIAP HARGA TURUN DIBAWAH RETRACEMENT 61,8% embah 
BELI ampe DUIT MENTOK POKOKNYA tekad embah

MUKA EMBAH tambah MERAH, DIAM MEMBISU MELOTOTIN LAYAR.
HAYO ADU KUAT ABIS ABISAN 

Ternyata dilevel 1339, si BOZZ engga TAHAN ADU MENTAL ama 
embah, dilevel ini IHSG membal kelevel 1427 atau REBOUND 88 point
pada PENUTUPAN. Dari RUGI SEABREK ABREK dan EMOSI BISU ampe
bisa KETAWA LAGI sore ini  hehehe

CERITA ini bukan CONTOH BAIK, tapi sekedar sharing pengalaman
embah hari ini. Embah seharusnya TIDAK BOLEH EMOSI, sesuatu
yang seharusnya TIDAK DILAKUKAN seorang trader profesional...

Kalo ada yang mau CERITA pengalaman hari ini BOLEH dishare
dimilis, BUAT PEMBELAJARAN buat yang yunior...

Note:
- Embah cerita ini SAMBIL MALU ama pak Budi dll, embah 
 BERBUAT sesuatu yang seharusnya TIDAK DILAKUKAN !!!

INGAT INI ADALAH CONTOH JELEK, JANGAN DICONTOH !!!

...

embah












































  
  
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Embah's TRUE story

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Aria Bela Nusa










 Selamat, Embah ( slamet)  tidak sembarang orang bisa nyelem
ke dasar lautan...he...he...





-Original Message-
From:
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant
Sent: Tuesday, May
 16, 2006 4:38 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Embah's
TRUE story



Embah's
TRUE story


Hari ini embah HAMPIR engga liat milis karena lagi
ADU MENTAL berJUDI ama bandar BEJ. Cerita ini bukan untuk DICONTO 
tapi untuk TAU AJA apa itu ADU KUAT MENTAL...

Ketika IHSG mencapai retracement 32%, embah MULAI BELI karena
KATANYA menurut Elliot Wave, wave 4 biasanya STOP di 32%.

Tapi nyatanya IHSG turun lagi, embah pikir AH BIASA si BOZZ lagi
NAKUTIN, embah NAMBAH LAGI...

IHSG turun lagi ke retracement 50%, NAH si BOZZ kasih murah,
embah beli lagi buat NUTUP yang rugi TADI kalo naek...

IHSG turun LAGI, embah udah KECUT, RUGI udah puluhan JUTA,
tapi embah pikir NEKAD DEH HOLD nanti beli di RETRACEMENT FINAL 
yaitu 61,8%. Si BOZZ tambah NEKAD, IHSG bener bener diturunin
ke retracemebt 61,8%. Embah DOUBLE BELI LAGI, NEKAD DAH 

Eh TAUNYA si BOZZ ngejebolin level 61,8%, embah pikir si BOZZ
UDAH GILA mau ngelawan ELLIOT+FIBONACI. Embah udah kehabisan
TEORI. Rugi dari PULULAH JUTA udah DOUBLE atau TRIPLE dah, 
NGITUNGnya aja udah MALES, karena kalo ngeliat JUMLAH RUGI 
yg GEDE, embah bisa engga CONCENTRASI.

Embah UDAH EMOSI, muka embah bukannya PUTIH PUCAT tapi 
MERAH MARAH ama si BOZZ.. MAU ADU MENTAL, hayo EMBAH JUGA 
ngumpulin TENAGA DALAM buat PERANG MENTAL. 

Embah BERTEKAD NO CUT LOSS, BERAPA JUGA BOZZ JUAL EMBAH 
BELI  SETIAP HARGA TURUN DIBAWAH RETRACEMENT 61,8% embah 
BELI ampe DUIT MENTOK POKOKNYA tekad embah

MUKA EMBAH tambah MERAH, DIAM MEMBISU MELOTOTIN LAYAR.
HAYO ADU KUAT ABIS ABISAN 

Ternyata dilevel 1339, si BOZZ engga TAHAN ADU MENTAL ama 
embah, dilevel ini IHSG membal kelevel 1427 atau REBOUND 88 point
pada PENUTUPAN. Dari RUGI SEABREK ABREK dan EMOSI BISU ampe
bisa KETAWA LAGI sore ini  hehehe

CERITA ini bukan CONTOH BAIK, tapi sekedar sharing pengalaman
embah hari ini. Embah seharusnya TIDAK BOLEH EMOSI, sesuatu
yang seharusnya TIDAK DILAKUKAN seorang trader profesional...

Kalo ada yang mau CERITA pengalaman hari ini BOLEH dishare
dimilis, BUAT PEMBELAJARAN buat yang yunior...

Note:
- Embah cerita ini SAMBIL MALU ama pak Budi dll, embah 
 BERBUAT sesuatu yang seharusnya TIDAK DILAKUKAN !!!

INGAT INI ADALAH CONTOH JELEK, JANGAN DICONTOH !!!

...

embah










  




  
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Embah's TRUE story

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik SETAN BEJ



Oh, jadi magnet-nya embah ternyata.jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Embah's TRUE storyHari ini embah HAMPIR engga liat milis karena lagiADU MENTAL berJUDI ama bandar BEJ. Cerita ini bukan untuk DICONTO tapi untuk TAU AJA apa itu ADU KUAT MENTAL...Ketika IHSG mencapai retracement 32%, embah MULAI BELI karenaKATANYA menurut Elliot Wave, wave 4 biasanya STOP di 32%.Tapi nyatanya IHSG turun lagi, embah pikir AH BIASA si BOZZ lagiNAKUTIN, embah NAMBAH LAGI...IHSG turun lagi ke retracement 50%, NAH si BOZZ kasih murah,embah beli lagi buat NUTUP yang rugi TADI kalo naek...IHSG turun LAGI, embah udah KECUT, RUGI udah puluhan JUTA,tapi embah pikir NEKAD DEH HOLD nanti beli di RETRACEMENT FINAL yaitu 61,8%. Si BOZZ tambah NEKAD, IHSG bener bener dituruninke
 retracemebt 61,8%. Embah DOUBLE BELI LAGI, NEKAD DAH Eh TAUNYA si BOZZ ngejebolin level 61,8%, embah pikir si BOZZUDAH GILA mau ngelawan ELLIOT+FIBONACI. Embah udah kehabisanTEORI. Rugi dari PULULAH JUTA udah DOUBLE atau TRIPLE dah, NGITUNGnya aja udah MALES, karena kalo ngeliat JUMLAH RUGI yg GEDE, embah bisa engga CONCENTRASI.Embah UDAH EMOSI, muka embah bukannya PUTIH PUCAT tapi MERAH MARAH ama si BOZZ.. MAU ADU MENTAL, hayo EMBAH JUGA ngumpulin TENAGA DALAM buat PERANG MENTAL. Embah BERTEKAD NO CUT LOSS, BERAPA JUGA BOZZ JUAL EMBAH BELI  SETIAP HARGA TURUN DIBAWAH RETRACEMENT 61,8% embah BELI ampe DUIT MENTOK POKOKNYA tekad embahMUKA EMBAH tambah MERAH, DIAM MEMBISU MELOTOTIN LAYAR.HAYO ADU KUAT ABIS ABISAN Ternyata dilevel 1339, si BOZZ engga TAHAN ADU MENTAL ama embah, dilevel ini IHSG membal kelevel 1427 atau REBOUND 88 pointpada PENUTUPAN. Dari RUGI SEABREK ABREK dan
 EMOSI BISU ampebisa KETAWA LAGI sore ini  heheheCERITA ini bukan CONTOH BAIK, tapi sekedar sharing pengalamanembah hari ini. Embah seharusnya TIDAK BOLEH EMOSI, sesuatuyang seharusnya TIDAK DILAKUKAN seorang trader profesional...Kalo ada yang mau CERITA pengalaman hari ini BOLEH disharedimilis, BUAT PEMBELAJARAN buat yang yunior...Note:- Embah cerita ini SAMBIL MALU ama pak Budi dll, embah  BERBUAT sesuatu yang seharusnya TIDAK DILAKUKAN !!!INGAT INI ADALAH CONTOH JELEK, JANGAN DICONTOH !!!...embah
	
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Embah's TRUE story

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Glenardo Jopie



Mbah..ini gunnay mili ini ,saling share..Apalg buat trader muda kaya g ini.
menatl ga bisa di beli yang penting pengalaman.mao sakit jantung ato mandul
pun, asala pengalamn ttep hold and profit. Yang muda ,sehat jadi gini
deh..ga kukuh...Amin
- Original Message -
From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 4:38 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Embah's TRUE story


 Embah's TRUE story


 Hari ini embah HAMPIR engga liat milis karena lagi
 ADU MENTAL berJUDI ama bandar BEJ. Cerita ini bukan untuk DICONTO
 tapi untuk TAU AJA apa itu ADU KUAT MENTAL...

 Ketika IHSG mencapai retracement 32%, embah MULAI BELI karena
 KATANYA menurut Elliot Wave, wave 4 biasanya STOP di 32%.

 Tapi nyatanya IHSG turun lagi, embah pikir AH BIASA si BOZZ lagi
 NAKUTIN, embah NAMBAH LAGI...

 IHSG turun lagi ke retracement 50%, NAH si BOZZ kasih murah,
 embah beli lagi buat NUTUP yang rugi TADI kalo naek...

 IHSG turun LAGI, embah udah KECUT, RUGI udah puluhan JUTA,
 tapi embah pikir NEKAD DEH HOLD nanti beli di RETRACEMENT FINAL
 yaitu 61,8%. Si BOZZ tambah NEKAD, IHSG bener bener diturunin
 ke retracemebt 61,8%. Embah DOUBLE BELI LAGI, NEKAD DAH 

 Eh TAUNYA si BOZZ ngejebolin level 61,8%, embah pikir si BOZZ
 UDAH GILA mau ngelawan ELLIOT+FIBONACI. Embah udah kehabisan
 TEORI. Rugi dari PULULAH JUTA udah DOUBLE atau TRIPLE dah,
 NGITUNGnya aja udah MALES, karena kalo ngeliat JUMLAH RUGI
 yg GEDE, embah bisa engga CONCENTRASI.

 Embah UDAH EMOSI, muka embah bukannya PUTIH PUCAT tapi
 MERAH MARAH ama si BOZZ.. MAU ADU MENTAL, hayo EMBAH JUGA
 ngumpulin TENAGA DALAM buat PERANG MENTAL.

 Embah BERTEKAD NO CUT LOSS, BERAPA JUGA BOZZ JUAL EMBAH
 BELI  SETIAP HARGA TURUN DIBAWAH RETRACEMENT 61,8% embah
 BELI ampe DUIT MENTOK POKOKNYA tekad embah

 MUKA EMBAH tambah MERAH, DIAM MEMBISU MELOTOTIN LAYAR.
 HAYO ADU KUAT ABIS ABISAN 

 Ternyata dilevel 1339, si BOZZ engga TAHAN ADU MENTAL ama
 embah, dilevel ini IHSG membal kelevel 1427 atau REBOUND 88 point
 pada PENUTUPAN. Dari RUGI SEABREK ABREK dan EMOSI BISU ampe
 bisa KETAWA LAGI sore ini  hehehe

 CERITA ini bukan CONTOH BAIK, tapi sekedar sharing pengalaman
 embah hari ini. Embah seharusnya TIDAK BOLEH EMOSI, sesuatu
 yang seharusnya TIDAK DILAKUKAN seorang trader profesional...

 Kalo ada yang mau CERITA pengalaman hari ini BOLEH dishare
 dimilis, BUAT PEMBELAJARAN buat yang yunior...

 Note:
 - Embah cerita ini SAMBIL MALU ama pak Budi dll, embah
 BERBUAT sesuatu yang seharusnya TIDAK DILAKUKAN !!!

 INGAT INI ADALAH CONTOH JELEK, JANGAN DICONTOH !!!

 ...

 embah








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[obrolan-bandar] DYNAMIC MARKET…..

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q



OENTOENG True Story too….

Mungkin True Story saya TIDAK SEHEBOH Mbah karena di tingkat saya 
lebih banyak PERANG URAT SYARAF masalah INFO….itupun 
harus DIRAMESI  secara TA dan KONEKSI. 
Tapi menurut saya masih PANTAS untuk diceritakan.

1.Mungkin kemarin saya bilang IDR-USD akan bergerak ke 10.000,- 
kalau bisa secepatnya. Dasarnya saya tahu persis BOZZ beli harga 
8700. Ternyata hari ini BERUBAH ARAH. Karena ada perkembangan baru; 
bahwa ada DANA ASING MAU MASUK sekitar jutaan USD. Jadi pada saat 
PEAK IDR di 9400; BOZZ BERBALIK ARAH NGESOT, sekalian dengan ISU 
INTERVENSI dari BI. Jadilah penutupan SESI 9200. Besok menurut 
perkembangan IDR akan menuju 9000, mungkin kembali ke 8700 BAHKAN 
8500!? Perkembangan terjadi sangat cepat…Buat teman2 mungkin saya 
bisa dibilang PLIN PLAN….tapi begitulah kalau BERMAIN di 
KAHYANGAN..yg sering terjadi entah TIPU-TIPU atau BENERAN yg jelas 
bagi saya; selalu sama arahnya ANGIN SURGA atau ANGIN NERAKA?

2.Sebenarnya saya pernah dikasih tahu masalah JEBAKAN 1450 – 1540; 
RANGE itu adalah BULL TRAP ala BOZZ. Makanya waktu di 1490 sering 
saya GEDOR permainan BOZZ. Di satu sisi saya tahu ada SUHU nebak 
1350.
Setelah tahu bahwa Psychological Stop adalah 1530; akhirnya saya 
TERINPIRASI…pasti INDEKS akan ke 1350. dengan BERMAIN ANGKA 1530 –
1350. Saya pikir untuk menuju ke sana membutuhkan 2 hari. Hari ini 
dan besok. Ternyata 1350 tadi sudah TERCAPAI…..KAMI SEMUA LANGSUNG 
BELANJA SEBANYAK2nya……Asal tahu saja…ada yang puluhan milyar bahkan 
ratusan milyar,….pokoknya kayak SALE DISCOUNT ALA LEBARAN dan TAHUN 
BARU!? Karena apa??? Karena prinsip saya ini adalah HARGA INVESTOR, 
TRADER, GAMBLER (Margin Call) di HARGA SEKARANG. Karena INVESTOR di 
BEJ kalau TIDAK DIGOYANG MAUT kayak 2 hari ini; TIDAK AKAN 
DILEPASKAN portfolionya. Jadi sebagian besar portfolio saat ini 
adalah harga di LOW, LOWEST persahaman di BEJ HARI INI.
Misalnya HARGA SPORT JANTUNG TINS…2000; PNBN 435, BLTA 1800 dll.

3. Masalah PENURUNAN yang cukup dalam kemarin membuat saya berpikir 
bahwa BOZZ mengambil POSISI KOSONG bahkan NGESOT! Jadi… sedalam 
berapapun BOZZ sebenarnya TIDAK PEDULI. Tapi siapa sih mau dikasih 
KIAMAT terus? Makanya ketika 1350 , waktu kami belanja..ternyata 
masih turun ke 1339 (IHSG –90 ) saya sempat KETAR-KETIR ..gimana 
kalau sampai minus 100 lebih??? Tapi saya berpikir POSIITF kan ini 
SUDAH HARGA RENDAH…bagaimanapun saat itu KAMI semua BERKERINGAT dan 
BERDOA…..Ya TUHAN turunkanlah MUKJIZAT-MU…eh..TAHU-TAHU IDR 
MENGUAT….Langsung dah MARGIN DISIKAT HABIS!? Kelihatan BOZZ 
juga PONTANG PANTING…CLOSE ALL POSITION SHORT and TAKE a LONG 
POSITION. 
4. Bagaimanapun KITA semua patut BERSYUKUR bahwa sekali lagi BOZZ 
masih BERMURAH HATI memberikan HINTS utk PTBA, BLTA, BBCA, BBRI dan 
BMRI layak untuk di-BUY BACK….lihat GRAFIK DAILY hari ini….HAMPIR 
SAMA SEMUANYA… tapi saya cuman ikut BLTA ama PTBA.

Intinya dari cerita di atas adalah MARKET sekarang BERKEMBANG lebih 
DINAMIS. Banyak BIG PLAYER bermain,….kalau saya lebih suka ikut 
JENDRAL KANCIL karena KELAKUANNYA MEMANG KAYAK KANCIL!? 
Bagaimanapun entah bener atau tidak INFO yg saya terima; yang 
penting BELI HARGA RENDAH JUAL HARGA LEBIH TINGGI; GITU AJA KOK 
REPOT….ya nggak???












  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q



http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/bluechips_trader/

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Triwira Juniarta 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 milis BOZZ alamatnya apa pak oentoeng?
 
 oentoeng_q wrote:
 
  Begitulah pak...
  Tunggu ntar kalau ada waktu saya buat ulasannya
  Di milis lain nggak akan uraian PLANNED AGENDA kayak di OB 
sini...
  Kecuali di MILIS BOZZ tentunya sudah tahu belon?
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Arthoer king.arthoer@
  wrote:
  
   ...code ???
   it's time to ???
  
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: oentoeng_q oentoeng_q@
   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:56 PM
   Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis
  
  
   Terimakasih sarannya pak...
   yang jelas SEMUA BELON TAHU kan kalao akan ADA KENAIKAN sebesar
   PENURUNAN HARI ini dan KEMARIN?
   Tunggu SAATnya...
   BINGUNG-BINGUNG DAH yang CUT LOSS 2 hari ini.
  
   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, yakob ananto 
nytrogell@
   wrote:
   
   
Kisah perjalanan index yg naik dan turun secara dramatis, 
cerita
   pecahnya rekor indek, cerita pecahnya rekor penurunan poin
  terbesar
   sepertinya membuat banyak yg bingung
Termasuk yg saya baca dari tulisan2 teman2 disini.

Kebingungan yg paling kentara ialah,
banyak teman yg mulai menulis dua arah, dan gak jelas.
Sebentar ngomong Up krn begini begitu, sebentar ngomong Down 
krn
   alasan lain.
jadi punya 2 klaim.

Klo index naik..
I've told u so. Look at claim A written by me.
Klo index turun.
I've told u so. Look at claim B written by me.

Mabok!!! Klo pada cari pembenaran atas dirinya sendiri.

(sorry mbah, tempo hari saat mbah ngajak teman2 short TLKM 
di
   6000an krn antisipasi turun ke 5000an, lalu kemudian mengaku 
tidak
   ambil posisi short termasuk gak etis menurutku. SORRY 
BANGET
   mohon maaf klo salah.)

RELAX MAN!!! Gak ada yg nyalahin atas kesalahan tulisan 
kamu.
   Tapi justru sangat memuji klo anda berjiwa besar mengaku... Ya
  saya
   salah. Toh yg akhirnya pantas dipuji adalah org yg berjiwa 
besar.

So still keep on writing guys !!!
just be responsible enough with ur writings.
   
   
   
   
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[obrolan-bandar] Doubling the money on the internet!

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik paul browne



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[obrolan-bandar] PETA PARA KOMANDAN (ini rahasia loh)

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik jhon veter












Salam perjuangan J,



Setelah pertempuran berdarah dengan
merapatkan seluruh barisan, terutama uang. Akhirnya pasukan
besar dapat mengendalikan kembali pasukan beruang yang marah gara-gara diganggu
tidurnya di gua 1500 an. Pasukan besar bahkan membuat takura yang fungsinya
untuk mengukur kedalaman (sama orang Jepang), atau Hammer kata orang bule. 



Pasukan telah siap dengan bantuan
uang dari asing dan para pensiunan. Bahkan saat ini
uang kagak ada artinya,. 4 trilyun
mah kecil kata para pensiunan. Ok itu dulu dan selamat berjuang para satria.



May the force with you.





Salam 



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[obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik bozz_ku



Thank for Mr Oentoeng..

Jujur saja kami pernah buat undangan lewat OB, tapi
di edit oleh MR Moderator...
Mungkin kita yang salahtidak permisi sebelumnya...
BTW... mungkinkan OENTOENG = MBAH JSX = JSX TRADER ???
Hanya tebak2an saja...
Jawabannya anggota OB sdh tahu koq...
Abizz isinya para bandar..para bosss
Hehehe...
BTW
Mr Ariston said Index already touched 1333 = target tercapai

But We say ::
 Can we see the highest level again?

setidaknya dari PTBA,BLTA, sudah dapet ferrari
APalagi hari ini
Mungkinkah besok 


Atau sebaliknya
Pls Watch our recomm stocks..
Gunung merapi meletus...
IDR turun
Fed akan naik...
SBI akan naik lagi...??//??//
Inflasi gonjang ganjing

Sekali lagi...
Can we see the highest index again this month...

Tanya Kenapa?



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/bluechips_trader/
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Triwira Juniarta 
 speedline7@ wrote:
 
  milis BOZZ alamatnya apa pak oentoeng?
  
  oentoeng_q wrote:
  
   Begitulah pak...
   Tunggu ntar kalau ada waktu saya buat ulasannya
   Di milis lain nggak akan uraian PLANNED AGENDA kayak di OB 
 sini...
   Kecuali di MILIS BOZZ tentunya sudah tahu belon?
  
   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Arthoer king.arthoer@
   wrote:
   
...code ???
it's time to ???
   
   
   
- Original Message -
From: oentoeng_q oentoeng_q@
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:56 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis
   
   
Terimakasih sarannya pak...
yang jelas SEMUA BELON TAHU kan kalao akan ADA KENAIKAN 
sebesar
PENURUNAN HARI ini dan KEMARIN?
Tunggu SAATnya...
BINGUNG-BINGUNG DAH yang CUT LOSS 2 hari ini.
   
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, yakob ananto 
 nytrogell@
wrote:


 Kisah perjalanan index yg naik dan turun secara dramatis, 
 cerita
pecahnya rekor indek, cerita pecahnya rekor penurunan poin
   terbesar
sepertinya membuat banyak yg bingung
 Termasuk yg saya baca dari tulisan2 teman2 disini.
 
 Kebingungan yg paling kentara ialah,
 banyak teman yg mulai menulis dua arah, dan gak jelas.
 Sebentar ngomong Up krn begini begitu, sebentar ngomong Down 
 krn
alasan lain.
 jadi punya 2 klaim.
 
 Klo index naik..
 I've told u so. Look at claim A written by me.
 Klo index turun.
 I've told u so. Look at claim B written by me.
 
 Mabok!!! Klo pada cari pembenaran atas dirinya sendiri.
 
 (sorry mbah, tempo hari saat mbah ngajak teman2 short TLKM 
 di
6000an krn antisipasi turun ke 5000an, lalu kemudian mengaku 
 tidak
ambil posisi short termasuk gak etis menurutku. SORRY 
 BANGET
mohon maaf klo salah.)
 
 RELAX MAN!!! Gak ada yg nyalahin atas kesalahan tulisan 
 kamu.
Tapi justru sangat memuji klo anda berjiwa besar mengaku... Ya
   saya
salah. Toh yg akhirnya pantas dipuji adalah org yg berjiwa 
 besar.
 
 So still keep on writing guys !!!
 just be responsible enough with ur writings.




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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Embah's TRUE story

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Budi



 CERITA ini bukan CONTOH BAIK, tapi sekedar sharing 
pengalaman
 embah hari ini. Embah seharusnya TIDAK BOLEH EMOSI, 
sesuatu
 yang seharusnya TIDAK DILAKUKAN seorang trader 
profesional...
 Kalo ada yang mau CERITA pengalaman hari ini BOLEH 
dishare
 dimilis, BUAT PEMBELAJARAN buat yang yunior...
 
 Note:
 - Embah cerita ini SAMBIL MALU ama pak Budi dll, embah 
 BERBUAT sesuatu yang seharusnya TIDAK DILAKUKAN !!!
 
 INGAT INI ADALAH CONTOH JELEK, JANGAN DICONTOH !!!

Gak apa2 mbah,saya saja malah beli BLTA 200 lot,tadinya 
malah mau pilih PTBA 100 lot lagi,tapi karena sudah punya 
banyak,jadi saya pilih BLTA saja yang cuma punya 100 lot 
:-)

Ikuti Lomba Puisi Online Jawa Timur, dapatkan hadiah menarik setiap bulannya 
dan hadiah total senilai 60 juta rupiah
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Embah's TRUE story

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Eddy Purnomo



Ada juga toh PRO yang AVERAGE DOWN  ???Hue..he...he... Bercanda Mbah... Ini kan SPECIAL CASEjsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Embah's TRUE storyIHSG turun lagi ke retracement 50%, NAH si BOZZ kasih murah,embah beli lagi buat NUTUP yang rugi TADI kalo naek...IHSG turun LAGI, embah udah KECUT, RUGI udah puluhan JUTA,tapi embah pikir NEKAD DEH HOLD nanti beli di RETRACEMENT FINAL yaitu 61,8%. Si BOZZ tambah NEKAD, IHSG bener bener dituruninke retracemebt 61,8%. Embah DOUBLE BELI LAGI, NEKAD DAH mbah BERTEKAD NO CUT LOSS, BERAPA JUGA BOZZ JUAL EMBAH BELI  SETIAP HARGA TURUN DIBAWAH RETRACEMENT 61,8% embah BELI ampe DUIT MENTOK POKOKNYA tekad embahCERITA ini bukan CONTOH BAIK, tapi
 sekedar sharing pengalamanembah hari ini. Embah seharusnya TIDAK BOLEH EMOSI, sesuatuyang seharusnya TIDAK DILAKUKAN seorang trader profesional...INGAT INI ADALAH CONTOH JELEK, JANGAN DICONTOH !!!...embah
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG vs TLKM

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Eddy Purnomo



Sudah lihat hari ini seperti apa jadinya kalo TLKM dipake. Tolong saya dikasih pengertian Pak. Terima kasih.Dalam Perbandaran tidak ada masalah walau punya banyak barang tapi Index harus diminuskan. Kalo baru begitu aja jadi masalah ya namanya bukan Bandar. Sudah mengerti ??Hue..he..he...Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:ngawur, makanya kalau ndak ngerti jangan asal tulis. artinya bandar masih punya banyak barang di TLKM. bagaimana mungkin index mau dihancurkan sampai -300 lah -100 saja sudah banyak mayat yang bergelimpangan.  regards  On 5/15/06, Eddy Purnomo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalau TLKM di minuskan 9%, Index hari inibukan -96 tapi jadi -300. TLKMitu Senjata Pamungkas Mas. Dipakai hanyajika sedang dibutuhkan. Hari inisedang enggak butuh tuh. Wong Enggak pake TLKM aja index sudah bisa diminuskan 96. Hue..he..he..  Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:IHSG -96 (6,3%), TLKM -200 (3,3%)  sedangkan rata-rata saham blue chip yang lain
 turun 9 - 13 persen  PGAS (-9,3%)  BDMN dan ANTM (-10.7%)  BMRI (13%)  apakah artinya BANDAR masih banyak pegang TLKM atau TRADER barangnya sedikit di TLKM  regardsGet amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on Yahoo! FareChase   SPONSORED LINKS Business finance course   Business to business finance   Small business finance Business finance consultant   Business finance magazine   Business finance schools 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Highest Index

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Mario



pull = tarik, push bisa menekan bisa juga mendorong, tergantung 
kalimatnya

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Setahu saya :
 
 
 
 * Push = menekan (ke bawah)
 
 * Pull = mendorong.
 
 
 
 So.
 
 
 
 :) Setuju juga - oentoeng saya 'tak ambil untung dulu sebelonnya - 
shg
 untung2 ('pelatih tidak panggil ke luar lap')...
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Triwira 
Juniarta
 Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:02 AM
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Highest Index
 
 
 
 Trims pak Andri, untung juga saya ga kebagian cuci piring yang 
kotor
 banget nih...
 
 Andri Wijaya wrote: 
 
 HATI-HATI untuk trader pemula dan amatir, banyak BANDAR yang suka 
ajak
 nyangkut, kayak kemaren-kemaren ada yang ngajak inaf, pnbn dan 
tins dan
 prediksi senin positif, sekarang khan sudah beda lagi ngomongnya 
(sudah
 cuci tangan!) 
 
 YANG PENTING TRADER harus bisa analisis sendiri, kayak kemaren 
EMBAH dan
 PAK SANTO kirim chart lebih berguna daripada yang ngomongnya ngawur
 melulu, lama-lama PUSING juga bacanya jadi langsung DELETE saja, 
banyak
 jebakan. 
 
 regards
 
 
 
 On 5/15/06, bozz_ku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 WATCH THESE .
 PTBA,
 BUMI,
 BBCA,
 BBRI,
 BMRI,
 BLTA,
 
 Shall we buy again?
 Is it time to buy again 
 Yammy...
 Pul again...
 
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[obrolan-bandar] RE: [saham] Fwd: Embah's TRUE story

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Abah










Itu namanya nasib baik ada di embah. Tapikalo
untuk investor bukan trader, start buying emang ada di level level yg disebut
mbah tedja. Dan hari ini untuk investor bukan sesuatu yg penting untuk
melototi monitor. Ngelirik lirik boleh lah. Jika sayang sama broker, ya boleh
lah trading dikit dikit. Biar sama 2 senang.











From: saham@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Android Angel
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 4:52
PM
To: saham@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [saham] Fwd: Embah's
TRUE story







Wah, embah nekat bener, salut mbah, ediannn.











Kalo ga kuat mental mah udah cut loss, mentok2 di 50% ya mbah, huaduh,
sekarang senyumnya lebar banget dong :)











Musti belajar biar bisa seyakin embah neehhh.













On 5/16/06, jsx_consultant
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
jsx_consultant jsx- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Embah's TRUE story


Hari ini embah HAMPIR engga liat milis karena lagi
ADU MENTAL berJUDI ama bandar BEJ. Cerita ini bukan untuk DICONTO
tapi untuk TAU AJA apa itu ADU KUAT MENTAL... 

Ketika IHSG mencapai retracement 32%, embah MULAI BELI karena
KATANYA menurut Elliot Wave, wave 4 biasanya STOP di 32%.

Tapi nyatanya IHSG turun lagi, embah pikir AH BIASA si BOZZ lagi
NAKUTIN, embah NAMBAH LAGI... 

IHSG turun lagi ke retracement 50%, NAH si BOZZ kasih murah,
embah beli lagi buat NUTUP yang rugi TADI kalo naek...

IHSG turun LAGI, embah udah KECUT, RUGI udah puluhan JUTA,
tapi embah pikir NEKAD DEH HOLD nanti beli di RETRACEMENT FINAL 
yaitu 61,8%. Si BOZZ tambah NEKAD, IHSG bener bener diturunin
ke retracemebt 61,8%. Embah DOUBLE BELI LAGI, NEKAD DAH 

Eh TAUNYA si BOZZ ngejebolin level 61,8%, embah pikir si BOZZ
UDAH GILA mau ngelawan ELLIOT+FIBONACI. Embah udah kehabisan 
TEORI. Rugi dari PULULAH JUTA udah DOUBLE atau TRIPLE dah,
NGITUNGnya aja udah MALES, karena kalo ngeliat JUMLAH RUGI
yg GEDE, embah bisa engga CONCENTRASI.

Embah UDAH EMOSI, muka embah bukannya PUTIH PUCAT tapi 
MERAH MARAH ama si BOZZ.. MAU ADU MENTAL, hayo EMBAH JUGA
ngumpulin TENAGA DALAM buat PERANG MENTAL.

Embah BERTEKAD NO CUT LOSS, BERAPA JUGA BOZZ JUAL EMBAH
BELI  SETIAP HARGA TURUN DIBAWAH RETRACEMENT 61,8% embah 
BELI ampe DUIT MENTOK POKOKNYA tekad embah

MUKA EMBAH tambah MERAH, DIAM MEMBISU MELOTOTIN LAYAR.
HAYO ADU KUAT ABIS ABISAN 

Ternyata dilevel 1339, si BOZZ engga TAHAN ADU MENTAL ama
embah, dilevel ini IHSG membal kelevel 1427 atau REBOUND 88 point 
pada PENUTUPAN. Dari RUGI SEABREK ABREK dan EMOSI BISU ampe
bisa KETAWA LAGI sore ini  hehehe

CERITA ini bukan CONTOH BAIK, tapi sekedar sharing pengalaman
embah hari ini. Embah seharusnya TIDAK BOLEH EMOSI, sesuatu 
yang seharusnya TIDAK DILAKUKAN seorang trader profesional...

Kalo ada yang mau CERITA pengalaman hari ini BOLEH dishare
dimilis, BUAT PEMBELAJARAN buat yang yunior...

Note:
- Embah cerita ini SAMBIL MALU ama pak Budi dll, embah 
BERBUAT sesuatu yang seharusnya TIDAK DILAKUKAN !!!

INGAT INI ADALAH CONTOH JELEK, JANGAN DICONTOH !!!

...

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[obrolan-bandar] Jumlah Dana yang Anda mainkan

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Michael Slamet



Dear rekan-rekan semua, maaf cross posting,

Hanya penasaran, berapa ya jumlah dana yang Anda mainkan di bursa
saham? (dalam rupiah, bukan dalam %). Hanya pengen tahu, sepertinya
belum ada yang tanya ini di milis :-D

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Fwd: Embah's TRUE story

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik dhan4trade



Mbah, dalam kondisi kaya gini kalo model COP dan CLOP yang embah
pergunakan bisa ok gak hasilnya?
mana saja nih yg menurut model itu bisa diperhitungkan?
thx


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Abah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Itu namanya nasib baik ada di embah. Tapikalo untuk investor bukan
trader,
 start buying emang ada di level level yg disebut mbah tedja. Dan
hari ini
 untuk investor bukan sesuatu yg penting untuk melototi monitor. 
Ngelirik
 lirik boleh lah. Jika sayang sama broker, ya boleh lah trading
dikit dikit.
 Biar sama 2 senang.
 
 
 
 _ 
 
 From: saham@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Android Angel
 Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 4:52 PM
 To: saham@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [saham] Fwd: Embah's TRUE story
 
 
 
 Wah, embah nekat bener, salut mbah, ediannn.
 
 
 
 Kalo ga kuat mental mah udah cut loss, mentok2 di 50% ya mbah, huaduh,
 sekarang senyumnya lebar banget dong :)
 
 
 
 Musti belajar biar bisa seyakin embah neehhh.
 
 
 
 
 
 On 5/16/06, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- 
 consultant@ wrote:
 
 Embah's TRUE story
 
 
 Hari ini embah HAMPIR engga liat milis karena lagi
 ADU MENTAL berJUDI ama bandar BEJ. Cerita ini bukan untuk DICONTO
 tapi untuk TAU AJA apa itu ADU KUAT MENTAL... 
 
 Ketika IHSG mencapai retracement 32%, embah MULAI BELI karena
 KATANYA menurut Elliot Wave, wave 4 biasanya STOP di 32%.
 
 Tapi nyatanya IHSG turun lagi, embah pikir AH BIASA si BOZZ lagi
 NAKUTIN, embah NAMBAH LAGI... 
 
 IHSG turun lagi ke retracement 50%, NAH si BOZZ kasih murah,
 embah beli lagi buat NUTUP yang rugi TADI kalo naek...
 
 IHSG turun LAGI, embah udah KECUT, RUGI udah puluhan JUTA,
 tapi embah pikir NEKAD DEH HOLD nanti beli di RETRACEMENT FINAL 
 yaitu 61,8%. Si BOZZ tambah NEKAD, IHSG bener bener diturunin
 ke retracemebt 61,8%. Embah DOUBLE BELI LAGI, NEKAD DAH 
 
 Eh TAUNYA si BOZZ ngejebolin level 61,8%, embah pikir si BOZZ
 UDAH GILA mau ngelawan ELLIOT+FIBONACI. Embah udah kehabisan 
 TEORI. Rugi dari PULULAH JUTA udah DOUBLE atau TRIPLE dah,
 NGITUNGnya aja udah MALES, karena kalo ngeliat JUMLAH RUGI
 yg GEDE, embah bisa engga CONCENTRASI.
 
 Embah UDAH EMOSI, muka embah bukannya PUTIH PUCAT tapi 
 MERAH MARAH ama si BOZZ.. MAU ADU MENTAL, hayo EMBAH JUGA
 ngumpulin TENAGA DALAM buat PERANG MENTAL.
 
 Embah BERTEKAD NO CUT LOSS, BERAPA JUGA BOZZ JUAL EMBAH
 BELI  SETIAP HARGA TURUN DIBAWAH RETRACEMENT 61,8% embah 
 BELI ampe DUIT MENTOK POKOKNYA tekad embah
 
 MUKA EMBAH tambah MERAH, DIAM MEMBISU MELOTOTIN LAYAR.
 HAYO ADU KUAT ABIS ABISAN 
 
 Ternyata dilevel 1339, si BOZZ engga TAHAN ADU MENTAL ama
 embah, dilevel ini IHSG membal kelevel 1427 atau REBOUND 88 point 
 pada PENUTUPAN. Dari RUGI SEABREK ABREK dan EMOSI BISU ampe
 bisa KETAWA LAGI sore ini  hehehe
 
 CERITA ini bukan CONTOH BAIK, tapi sekedar sharing pengalaman
 embah hari ini. Embah seharusnya TIDAK BOLEH EMOSI, sesuatu 
 yang seharusnya TIDAK DILAKUKAN seorang trader profesional...
 
 Kalo ada yang mau CERITA pengalaman hari ini BOLEH dishare
 dimilis, BUAT PEMBELAJARAN buat yang yunior...
 
 Note:
 - Embah cerita ini SAMBIL MALU ama pak Budi dll, embah 
 BERBUAT sesuatu yang seharusnya TIDAK DILAKUKAN !!!
 
 INGAT INI ADALAH CONTOH JELEK, JANGAN DICONTOH !!!
 
 ...
 
 embah
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] RE: [saham] Fwd: Embah's TRUE story

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Odink
Hehee embah lg praktekin nangkep pisau jatuh.. tapi pake ilmu..
Tapi emang contoh gak baik tuh.. ngajarin average down, jadi kayak gambler  
yg penasaran ama taruhan

On Wed, 17 May 2006 05:23:17 +0700, Abah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Itu namanya nasib baik ada di embah.  Tapikalo untuk investor bukan  
 trader,
 start buying emang ada di level level yg disebut mbah tedja.   Dan hari  
 ini
 untuk investor bukan sesuatu yg penting untuk melototi monitor.  Ngelirik
 lirik boleh lah.  Jika sayang sama broker, ya boleh lah trading dikit  
 dikit.
 Biar sama 2 senang.


   _

 From: saham@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Android Angel
 Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 4:52 PM
 To: saham@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [saham] Fwd: Embah's TRUE story


 Wah, embah nekat bener, salut mbah, ediannn.


 Kalo ga kuat mental mah udah cut loss, mentok2 di 50% ya mbah, huaduh,
 sekarang senyumnya lebar banget dong :)


 Musti belajar biar bisa seyakin embah neehhh.




 On 5/16/06, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Embah's TRUE story


 Hari ini embah HAMPIR engga liat milis karena lagi
 ADU MENTAL berJUDI ama bandar BEJ. Cerita ini bukan untuk DICONTO
 tapi untuk TAU AJA apa itu ADU KUAT MENTAL...

 Ketika IHSG mencapai retracement 32%, embah MULAI BELI karena
 KATANYA menurut Elliot Wave, wave 4 biasanya STOP di 32%.

 Tapi nyatanya IHSG turun lagi, embah pikir AH BIASA si BOZZ lagi
 NAKUTIN, embah NAMBAH LAGI...

 IHSG turun lagi ke retracement 50%, NAH si BOZZ kasih murah,
 embah beli lagi buat NUTUP yang rugi TADI kalo naek...

 IHSG turun LAGI, embah udah KECUT, RUGI udah puluhan JUTA,
 tapi embah pikir NEKAD DEH HOLD nanti beli di RETRACEMENT FINAL
 yaitu 61,8%. Si BOZZ tambah NEKAD, IHSG bener bener diturunin
 ke retracemebt 61,8%. Embah DOUBLE BELI LAGI, NEKAD DAH 

 Eh TAUNYA si BOZZ ngejebolin level 61,8%, embah pikir si BOZZ
 UDAH GILA mau ngelawan ELLIOT+FIBONACI. Embah udah kehabisan
 TEORI. Rugi dari PULULAH JUTA udah DOUBLE atau TRIPLE dah,
 NGITUNGnya aja udah MALES, karena kalo ngeliat JUMLAH RUGI
 yg GEDE, embah bisa engga CONCENTRASI.

 Embah UDAH EMOSI, muka embah bukannya PUTIH PUCAT tapi
 MERAH MARAH ama si BOZZ.. MAU ADU MENTAL, hayo EMBAH JUGA
 ngumpulin TENAGA DALAM buat PERANG MENTAL.

 Embah BERTEKAD NO CUT LOSS, BERAPA JUGA BOZZ JUAL EMBAH
 BELI  SETIAP HARGA TURUN DIBAWAH RETRACEMENT 61,8% embah
 BELI ampe DUIT MENTOK POKOKNYA tekad embah

 MUKA EMBAH tambah MERAH, DIAM MEMBISU MELOTOTIN LAYAR.
 HAYO ADU KUAT ABIS ABISAN 

 Ternyata dilevel 1339, si BOZZ engga TAHAN ADU MENTAL ama
 embah, dilevel ini IHSG membal kelevel 1427 atau REBOUND 88 point
 pada PENUTUPAN. Dari RUGI SEABREK ABREK dan EMOSI BISU ampe
 bisa KETAWA LAGI sore ini  hehehe

 CERITA ini bukan CONTOH BAIK, tapi sekedar sharing pengalaman
 embah hari ini. Embah seharusnya TIDAK BOLEH EMOSI, sesuatu
 yang seharusnya TIDAK DILAKUKAN seorang trader profesional...

 Kalo ada yang mau CERITA pengalaman hari ini BOLEH dishare
 dimilis, BUAT PEMBELAJARAN buat yang yunior...

 Note:
 - Embah cerita ini SAMBIL MALU ama pak Budi dll, embah
 BERBUAT sesuatu yang seharusnya TIDAK DILAKUKAN !!!

 INGAT INI ADALAH CONTOH JELEK, JANGAN DICONTOH !!!

 ...

 embah



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Jumlah Dana yang Anda mainkan

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik James Arifin



Relatif terhadap kekayaan masing-masing pak ... nggak ada angka fix seperti harapan Pak Slamet .. ada yang mainnya puluhan milyar ... ada yang ratusan juta ... puluhan juta ataupun jutaan saja. kalau punya modal cuma 10 juta yah jangan lah main 1 milyar itu bisa stress dan putus asa saat indeks di-dep seperti kemarin

On 5/17/06, Michael Slamet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Dear rekan-rekan semua, maaf cross posting,Hanya penasaran, berapa ya jumlah dana yang Anda mainkan di bursa saham? (dalam rupiah, bukan dalam %). Hanya pengen tahu, sepertinya belum ada yang tanya ini di milis :-D
MS.


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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Jumlah Dana yang Anda mainkan

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Teddy Halim



Biasanya sih kita kita ga pernah ngomongin jumlah yg diinvestasikan. Bahkan jumlah lot yg dibeli / jual jarang sekali diomongin. Dan itu ga penting menurut saya krn sangat relatif. Cukup cerita gw masuk di harga beli sekian, dan jual di harga beli sekian. Dan biasanya cerita kalau cuan, kalau nyangkut jarang juga yg cerita.
Analogi lain: Kalau kata bozz saya dulu, itu sama spt nanya berapa gaji anda. Dan hasilnya kalau dikasih tahu ama bozz ada 2:1. Kalau gaji sendiri lebih kecil Anda jadi kecil hati, iri, minder.2. Kalau gaji lebih gede, kita jadi gede kepala, sombong, super PD...
So please sebaiknya jangan tanya tanya soal berapa krn rangenya gede banget.. spt nanya berapa gaji Bill Gates dan gaji mbah Marijan...Salam dan selamat belajar sebagai pemula spt saya juga.th
On 5/17/06, 
Michael Slamet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Dear rekan-rekan semua, maaf cross posting,Hanya penasaran, berapa ya jumlah dana yang Anda mainkan di bursa saham? (dalam rupiah, bukan dalam %). Hanya pengen tahu, sepertinya belum ada yang tanya ini di milis :-D
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik bozz_ku



BUMI Gonjang-ganjing...GO GO GO 
Salah satu teman kami bilang gitu...

Special watch BUMI..
 
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Embah's TRUE story

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik A3K














Urat beli nya kuwat juga,

Kalo gak salah siapa dulu yg bilang : dont
average down !

Kalo gak salah pak Busur .. tapi
kita percaya mbah knows what he is doing



Kalo nggak nanti siapa yg menuntun kita di
OB sini ?? 



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From:
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Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 4:36
PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Embah's
TRUE story





Embah's TRUE story


Hari ini embah HAMPIR engga liat milis karena lagi
ADU MENTAL berJUDI ama bandar BEJ. Cerita ini bukan untuk DICONTO 
tapi untuk TAU AJA apa itu ADU KUAT MENTAL...

Ketika IHSG mencapai retracement 32%, embah MULAI BELI karena
KATANYA menurut Elliot Wave, wave 4 biasanya STOP di 32%.

Tapi nyatanya IHSG turun lagi, embah pikir AH BIASA si BOZZ lagi
NAKUTIN, embah NAMBAH LAGI...

IHSG turun lagi ke retracement 50%, NAH si BOZZ kasih murah,
embah beli lagi buat NUTUP yang rugi TADI kalo naek...

IHSG turun LAGI, embah udah KECUT, RUGI udah puluhan JUTA,
tapi embah pikir NEKAD DEH HOLD nanti beli di RETRACEMENT FINAL 
yaitu 61,8%. Si BOZZ tambah NEKAD, IHSG bener bener diturunin
ke retracemebt 61,8%. Embah DOUBLE BELI LAGI, NEKAD DAH 

Eh TAUNYA si BOZZ ngejebolin level 61,8%, embah pikir si BOZZ
UDAH GILA mau ngelawan ELLIOT+FIBONACI. Embah udah kehabisan
TEORI. Rugi dari PULULAH JUTA udah DOUBLE atau TRIPLE dah, 
NGITUNGnya aja udah MALES, karena kalo ngeliat JUMLAH RUGI 
yg GEDE, embah bisa engga CONCENTRASI.

Embah UDAH EMOSI, muka embah bukannya PUTIH PUCAT tapi 
MERAH MARAH ama si BOZZ.. MAU ADU MENTAL, hayo EMBAH JUGA 
ngumpulin TENAGA DALAM buat PERANG MENTAL. 

Embah BERTEKAD NO CUT LOSS, BERAPA JUGA BOZZ JUAL EMBAH 
BELI  SETIAP HARGA TURUN DIBAWAH RETRACEMENT 61,8% embah 
BELI ampe DUIT MENTOK POKOKNYA tekad embah

MUKA EMBAH tambah MERAH, DIAM MEMBISU MELOTOTIN LAYAR.
HAYO ADU KUAT ABIS ABISAN 

Ternyata dilevel 1339, si BOZZ engga TAHAN ADU MENTAL ama 
embah, dilevel ini IHSG membal kelevel 1427 atau REBOUND 88 point
pada PENUTUPAN. Dari RUGI SEABREK ABREK dan EMOSI BISU ampe
bisa KETAWA LAGI sore ini  hehehe

CERITA ini bukan CONTOH BAIK, tapi sekedar sharing pengalaman
embah hari ini. Embah seharusnya TIDAK BOLEH EMOSI, sesuatu
yang seharusnya TIDAK DILAKUKAN seorang trader profesional...

Kalo ada yang mau CERITA pengalaman hari ini BOLEH dishare
dimilis, BUAT PEMBELAJARAN buat yang yunior...

Note:
- Embah cerita ini SAMBIL MALU ama pak Budi dll, embah 
 BERBUAT sesuatu yang seharusnya TIDAK DILAKUKAN !!!

INGAT INI ADALAH CONTOH JELEK, JANGAN DICONTOH !!!

...

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Jumlah Dana yang Anda mainkan

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik investor_ngesot





bukannya relatif terhadap NYALI masing2..? heheheh

kalau saya sih cuma 30% sebelum saya nangis.. 


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 Relatif terhadap kekayaan masing-masing pak ... nggak ada angka fix 
seperti
 harapan Pak Slamet .. ada yang mainnya puluhan milyar ... ada yang 
ratusan
 juta ... puluhan juta ataupun jutaan saja. kalau punya modal cuma 
10 juta
 yah jangan lah main 1 milyar itu bisa stress dan putus asa saat 
indeks
 di-dep seperti kemarin
 
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  Dear rekan-rekan semua, maaf cross posting,
 
  Hanya penasaran, berapa ya jumlah dana yang Anda mainkan di bursa 
saham?
  (dalam rupiah, bukan dalam %). Hanya pengen tahu, sepertinya 
belum ada yang
  tanya ini di milis :-D
 
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[obrolan-bandar] Hasil analisa regional VS DJ pagi subuh tadi

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik A3K










Hasil analisa regional VS
DJ pagi subuh tadi, 

Ini yang membuat lingkungan BEJ disebut
eksotis sama pemodal luar,

Gampang masuk and gampang kabur









  




  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, bozz_ku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 BUMI Gonjang-ganjing...GO GO GO 
 Salah satu teman kami bilang gitu...
 
 Special watch BUMI..

MELEDAKnya bisa RUARRR BIASAA bisa ngalahin MERAPI katanye!?
 
 gimana PNBN, INAF ??? 
 How high can you GO??

PNBN teman2 OB bisa BELAJAR dari pengalaman CTRAntar saya buat 
ANALISA-nya
INAFsudah cukup BARANG-nya ya BOZZ ?
It's TIME TO GO

Edan..edanan dah kalau BOZZ sendiri yg NGOMONG





  




  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Jumlah Dana yang Anda mainkan

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q



Sebenarnya BISA ratusan ribu, puluhan juta atau ratusan bahkan 
milyaran...Yang penting UANG DINGIN pak!
Anda BERMAIN dengan uang MILYARAN dengan teknik SOK JAGO...terus 
BOENTOENG; gimana?
Mending yang jutaan aja..KALEM... tapi OENTOENG TERUS..
Sekali lagi yang penting KONDISI MENTAL/PSIKOLOGIS anda TERJAGA 
dengan JUMLAH UANG yang anda MAINKAN...
SIMPLE-nya ALWAYS NOTHING TO LOOSE...

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 Dear rekan-rekan semua, maaf cross posting,
 
 Hanya penasaran, berapa ya jumlah dana yang Anda mainkan di bursa 
saham?
 (dalam rupiah, bukan dalam %). Hanya pengen tahu, sepertinya belum 
ada yang
 tanya ini di milis :-D
 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Embah's TRUE story

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik investor_ngesot




istilahnya, embah khan si RAINMAKER..

nggak ada hujan.. banyak orang yg periuknya akan kering kerontang..

makanya perlu ada pawang hujan yg joget-joget sampai hujan turun,

kalau hujan tak turun dan kaki lecet itu sudah risiko pekerjaan.. 
hehehe

salam 
investor ngesot selalu 


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 Urat beli nya kuwat juga,
 
 Kalo gak salah siapa dulu yg bilang : don't average down !
 
 Kalo gak salah pak Busur ... tapi kita percaya mbah knows what he 
is doing
 
 
 
 Kalo nggak nanti siapa yg menuntun kita di OB sini ?? 
 
 
 
 A3K
 
 
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis to p oentoeng

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik gitto kurniasanto



wah pak oentoeng tapi kapan berangkatnya! apakah anda
yakin tau persis ttg inaf, pnbn? thx
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  BUMI Gonjang-ganjing...GO GO GO
  Salah satu teman kami bilang gitu...
 
  Special watch BUMI..
 MELEDAKnya bisa RUARRR BIASAA bisa ngalahin MERAPI
katanye!?
 
  gimana PNBN, INAF ???
  How high can you GO??
 PNBN teman2 OB bisa BELAJAR dari pengalaman
CTRAntar saya buat
 ANALISA-nya
 INAFsudah cukup BARANG-nya ya BOZZ ?
 It's TIME TO GO
 Edan..edanan dah kalau BOZZ sendiri yg NGOMONG
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis to p oentoeng

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik gitto kurniasanto



wah pak oentoeng tapi kapan berangkatnya! apakah anda
yakin tau persis ttg inaf, pnbn? thx
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  BUMI Gonjang-ganjing...GO GO GO
  Salah satu teman kami bilang gitu...
 
  Special watch BUMI..
 MELEDAKnya bisa RUARRR BIASAA bisa ngalahin MERAPI
katanye!?
 
  gimana PNBN, INAF ???
  How high can you GO??
 PNBN teman2 OB bisa BELAJAR dari pengalaman
CTRAntar saya buat
 ANALISA-nya
 INAFsudah cukup BARANG-nya ya BOZZ ?
 It's TIME TO GO
 Edan..edanan dah kalau BOZZ sendiri yg NGOMONG
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[obrolan-bandar] TWO WAY

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Andri Wijaya



ada 2 cara yang bisa bikin TRADER untung gede :
1. beli di support seperti yang dilakukan oleh EMBAH, kalau yang kemaren belanja ketika index 1340 dan sekarang index sudah 1420an.
2. beli di BREAK OUT ALA P Budi. Saya kagum sama Pak Budi yang berani menulis di millis saham-saham yang break out padahal dengan demikian BANDAR tahu posisi Pak Budi. TWO THUMBS FOR YOU. 
saya termasuk yang dapat untung dengan mengikuti cara Pak Budi ketika break out average up.
tapi 2 cara di atas musti punya mental gede dan disiplin cut loss kalau nggak yach saham yang dipegang bisa berULANG TAHUN.
KOMBINASIkan 2 cara di atas dan lihat HASILNYA. WOOW dahsyat.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] RE: [saham] Fwd: Embah's TRUE story

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik ptba.jk
trader = average up?
investor = average down?


- Original Message - 
From: Odink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] RE: [saham] Fwd: Embah's TRUE story


 Hehee embah lg praktekin nangkep pisau jatuh.. tapi pake ilmu..
 Tapi emang contoh gak baik tuh.. ngajarin average down, jadi kayak gambler
 yg penasaran ama taruhan

 On Wed, 17 May 2006 05:23:17 +0700, Abah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Itu namanya nasib baik ada di embah.  Tapikalo untuk investor bukan
  trader,
  start buying emang ada di level level yg disebut mbah tedja.   Dan hari
  ini
  untuk investor bukan sesuatu yg penting untuk melototi monitor.
Ngelirik
  lirik boleh lah.  Jika sayang sama broker, ya boleh lah trading dikit
  dikit.
  Biar sama 2 senang.
 
 
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  From: saham@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
  Android Angel
  Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 4:52 PM
  To: saham@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [saham] Fwd: Embah's TRUE story
 
 
  Wah, embah nekat bener, salut mbah, ediannn.
 
 
  Kalo ga kuat mental mah udah cut loss, mentok2 di 50% ya mbah, huaduh,
  sekarang senyumnya lebar banget dong :)
 
 
  Musti belajar biar bisa seyakin embah neehhh.
 
 
 
 
  On 5/16/06, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
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  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Embah's TRUE story
 
 
  Hari ini embah HAMPIR engga liat milis karena lagi
  ADU MENTAL berJUDI ama bandar BEJ. Cerita ini bukan untuk DICONTO
  tapi untuk TAU AJA apa itu ADU KUAT MENTAL...
 
  Ketika IHSG mencapai retracement 32%, embah MULAI BELI karena
  KATANYA menurut Elliot Wave, wave 4 biasanya STOP di 32%.
 
  Tapi nyatanya IHSG turun lagi, embah pikir AH BIASA si BOZZ lagi
  NAKUTIN, embah NAMBAH LAGI...
 
  IHSG turun lagi ke retracement 50%, NAH si BOZZ kasih murah,
  embah beli lagi buat NUTUP yang rugi TADI kalo naek...
 
  IHSG turun LAGI, embah udah KECUT, RUGI udah puluhan JUTA,
  tapi embah pikir NEKAD DEH HOLD nanti beli di RETRACEMENT FINAL
  yaitu 61,8%. Si BOZZ tambah NEKAD, IHSG bener bener diturunin
  ke retracemebt 61,8%. Embah DOUBLE BELI LAGI, NEKAD DAH 
 
  Eh TAUNYA si BOZZ ngejebolin level 61,8%, embah pikir si BOZZ
  UDAH GILA mau ngelawan ELLIOT+FIBONACI. Embah udah kehabisan
  TEORI. Rugi dari PULULAH JUTA udah DOUBLE atau TRIPLE dah,
  NGITUNGnya aja udah MALES, karena kalo ngeliat JUMLAH RUGI
  yg GEDE, embah bisa engga CONCENTRASI.
 
  Embah UDAH EMOSI, muka embah bukannya PUTIH PUCAT tapi
  MERAH MARAH ama si BOZZ.. MAU ADU MENTAL, hayo EMBAH JUGA
  ngumpulin TENAGA DALAM buat PERANG MENTAL.
 
  Embah BERTEKAD NO CUT LOSS, BERAPA JUGA BOZZ JUAL EMBAH
  BELI  SETIAP HARGA TURUN DIBAWAH RETRACEMENT 61,8% embah
  BELI ampe DUIT MENTOK POKOKNYA tekad embah
 
  MUKA EMBAH tambah MERAH, DIAM MEMBISU MELOTOTIN LAYAR.
  HAYO ADU KUAT ABIS ABISAN 
 
  Ternyata dilevel 1339, si BOZZ engga TAHAN ADU MENTAL ama
  embah, dilevel ini IHSG membal kelevel 1427 atau REBOUND 88 point
  pada PENUTUPAN. Dari RUGI SEABREK ABREK dan EMOSI BISU ampe
  bisa KETAWA LAGI sore ini  hehehe
 
  CERITA ini bukan CONTOH BAIK, tapi sekedar sharing pengalaman
  embah hari ini. Embah seharusnya TIDAK BOLEH EMOSI, sesuatu
  yang seharusnya TIDAK DILAKUKAN seorang trader profesional...
 
  Kalo ada yang mau CERITA pengalaman hari ini BOLEH dishare
  dimilis, BUAT PEMBELAJARAN buat yang yunior...
 
  Note:
  - Embah cerita ini SAMBIL MALU ama pak Budi dll, embah
  BERBUAT sesuatu yang seharusnya TIDAK DILAKUKAN !!!
 
  INGAT INI ADALAH CONTOH JELEK, JANGAN DICONTOH !!!
 
  ...
 
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Watch MEDC

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Lusiana Permata (Smg)







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  MEDC
  
  MEDC membentuk base kecil di 4850 an,oppurtunity buy jika 
  break out, buy MEDC di level 4900 .good luck
  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik amgsby-qmr



Berapapun index turun saya tidak akan CUT LOSS, saya akan
beli - berapapun dilevel terendah.
Ingat RUGI bila cut loss.


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setuju pak, hati2 kalau cut loss dah jadi budaya,
bakalan gulung tikar... he..he..he.

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RE: [obrolan-bandar] PETA PARA KOMANDAN (ini rahasia loh)

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik A3K












Pak john, setuju may the force be with us 


Keep fighting in the war zone 












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PARA KOMANDAN (ini rahasia loh)







Salam perjuangan J,



Setelah pertempuran berdarah dengan merapatkan seluruh
barisan, terutama uang. Akhirnya pasukan besar dapat mengendalikan kembali
pasukan beruang yang marah gara-gara diganggu tidurnya di gua 1500 an. Pasukan
besar bahkan membuat takura yang fungsinya untuk mengukur kedalaman (sama orang
Jepang), atau Hammer kata orang bule. 



Pasukan telah siap dengan bantuan uang dari asing dan para
pensiunan. Bahkan saat ini uang kagak ada artinya,. 4 trilyun mah kecil kata
para pensiunan. Ok itu dulu dan selamat berjuang para satria.



May the force with you.





Salam 



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[obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Fwd: Embah's TRUE story

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik oot_y_oon




Kulo nuwun Mbah,

Katanya Mbah naik gunung untuk berdoa bagi keselamatan bersama, TTDJ 
ya Mbah.

Maaf-maaf ni semuanya, Aku Koq ya nggak percaya sama After Market 
Stories. Kata Panbers (atau Koes Bersaudara seh??) Hanya 
mimpi...Hanya MimmpiiBung Veter malah ngaku suka berkhayal.

What have been done is done. Kecuali ada yang ngirimin Full 
Transaction Report :)). Tentu gedhe ya filenya lh wong 4T.

Ini usulan buat yang mau ngirimin file gedhe (utamanya format .pdf). 
Itu format setara dengan format gambar, KALAU satu dokumen, di scan 
trus di ubah jadi .pdf (convert) -- ini yang sering dilakukan BEJ 
jika kasih pengumuman di web --. Pasti gedhe filenya. Jadi membludak 
deh itu storage, nggak apa-apa sih, itung-itung amal buat penjual 
storage.

SALAH SATU cara yang baik adalah dokumen diketik pakai wordprocessing 
trus di-convert ke .pdf. Dijamin 80% lebih kecil. Aku pernah terima 
report tahunan yang ratusan lembar hanya 200-anKb. KUNCINYA: dokumen 
disusutkan. Jadi ketika dibaca harus menggunakan zoom. Semoga 
membantu.
Khusus:
BEJ punya sistem pelaporan online, harusnya dimanfaatkan buat 
komunikasi dengan emiten, apalagi rata-rata sudah punya website, masa 
gaptek sehh. Masalah verifikasi (tandatanganpejabat), lha Konfirmasi 
trading aja computer generated koq. atau untuk keabsahan paling bikin 
sitem digital barcode atau numerical id. Beres deh!! 
Matur Nuwun Mbah.

Kembali ke gunung tadi, ehh ya.. ehhh ya benr gunung, jadi binun. 
Indeks. Kalau semua bilang long, doji, hammer, cup  handle apa akan 
terjadi? Katanya market always step ahead, kecuali kalau yang ngomong 
BOSS. Bener nih BOSS, bukannya when i shorted, aku squaring di bawah, 
trus sisa margin aku beli beberapa, the next day i hit the ceiling, 
when follower come aku jebol tuh langit-langit, jatuh deh ke lantai. 
Sakit! Mimpi kali yee... Untung cuma mimpi, Berani 
mencoba...BOSS?..:)).

Yang pakai sistem sebelah badan, ayo liat seberapa gesit sistem 
sampeyan bisa ngikutin JATS BEJ, bisa-bisa hang tuh server!!


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[obrolan-bandar] OOT banget deh! BI banget dehh!!

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik oon



Kulo nuwun Mbah,
Untuk BI harap menarik peredaran pecahan logam Rp50
dan Rp25. Serta melarang penggunaannya di Bank, pasar
modern dan pasar Tradisional, Harus ada ketegasan
pembulatan (ke bawah dong:})
Pecahan itu Nggak laku, bahkan di bank BUMN sendiri,
kasihan saya, ibu-ibu harus bersitegang hanya urusan
go-ji. Di bayar lebih jigo katanya nggak laku, minta
dibulatin ke bawah katanya bank nggak bisa nombok,
kalau satu teller nangangin 100 nasabah per hari
lumayan sehari bisa buat kasih uang rokok parkir.
Bagi-bagi rezeki!!! Katannya. Ehh udah pagi.. Mimpi
lagi.. ah!

Matur Nuwun Mbah,


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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Dhany S



Kalo cut loss di 3%, habis itu ambil dibawah...
bukannya itu sama saja ngeshort, tapi lebih enggak deg-degan? :)

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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis


Berapapun index turun saya tidak akan CUT LOSS, saya akan
beli - berapapun dilevel terendah.
Ingat RUGI bila cut loss.


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setuju pak, hati2 kalau cut loss dah jadi budaya,
bakalan gulung tikar... he..he..he.

cheers
iful






 
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[obrolan-bandar] IHSG +45 dilvel 61,8% dari LOW

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant



09:57

IHSG +45 dilevel 61,8% dari LOW...

Angka FIBONACCI, memang SAKTI makanya embah lagi MEMBUDAYAKAN angka
FIBONACCI ini...













  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Angka FIBONACCI, memang SAKTI

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant



09:57

IHSG +45 dilevel 61,8% dari LOW...

Angka FIBONACCI, memang SAKTI makanya embah lagi MEMBUDAYAKAN angka 2
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik amgsby-qmr





Pengalaman, saya pernah beli ISAT 5300 (terlalu tinggi) di bln Jan'06
lalu turun teruss, 4500-4600, saya uji kesabaran saya, e, ternyata
April'06 kembali, malah untung ...

Krn, menurut TEORI CUT LOSS, hanya boleh dilakukan bila kondisi sbb:
1) Kondisi Politik di suatu negara sedang BERGEJOLAK/ tidak menentu
 misal: Terjadi perebutan KEKUASAAN
2) Kondisi Ekonomi TIDAK Stabil (banyak perubahan akibat No.1)
 misalnya:
 - Perubahan Drastis terhadap SUKU BUNGA
 - EMBARGO Ekonomi oleh suatu negara.
 - Cadangan Devisa Negara TIPIS
 - Ketidak pastian pembayaran UTANG Negara (Negara Tidak Mampu Bayar
Utang)
3) Aksi TERORISME  Pengeboman
4) Masyarakat Tidak Percaya lagi terhadap MATA UANG sendiri.

Bila tidak ada tanda2 seperti diatas sebaiknya TIDAK perlu cut Loss.
Harga yakin akan kembali NORMAL, asal beli saham2 Fundamentalnya BAGUS.

Jadi saya tidak pernah CUT LOSS, berapapun, harga jatuh.
Mungkin teman lain ada yang punya pengalaman lain.



--
Kalo cut loss di 3%, habis itu ambil dibawah...
bukannya itu sama saja ngeshort, tapi lebih enggak deg-degan? :)

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Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:12 AM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis


Berapapun index turun saya tidak akan CUT LOSS, saya akan
beli - berapapun dilevel terendah.
Ingat RUGI bila cut loss.
--
setuju pak, hati2 kalau cut loss dah jadi budaya,
bakalan gulung tikar... he..he..he.

cheers
iful



  




  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Angka FIBONACCI, memang SAKTI

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q



BOZZ juga suka BERMAIN ANGKA mbah...
Kita lihat aja permainan minggu ini...
Saya IKUT BERDUKA yg CUT LOSS kemarin2


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 09:57
 
 IHSG +45 dilevel 61,8% dari LOW...
 
 Angka FIBONACCI, memang SAKTI makanya embah lagi MEMBUDAYAKAN angka 2
 FIBONACCI ini...











  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] buang blta

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik oho milyuners



sekuritas saya mengatakan bahwa blta akan diguyur ntar
siang.
--- obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Pengalaman, saya pernah beli ISAT 5300 (terlalu
tinggi) di bln Jan'06
 lalu turun teruss, 4500-4600, saya uji kesabaran
saya, e, ternyata
 April'06 kembali, malah untung ...
 
 Krn, menurut TEORI CUT LOSS, hanya boleh dilakukan
bila kondisi sbb:
 1) Kondisi Politik di suatu negara sedang
BERGEJOLAK/ tidak menentu
 misal: Terjadi perebutan KEKUASAAN
 2) Kondisi Ekonomi TIDAK Stabil (banyak perubahan
akibat No.1)
 misalnya:
 - Perubahan Drastis terhadap SUKU BUNGA
 - EMBARGO Ekonomi oleh suatu negara.
 - Cadangan Devisa Negara TIPIS
 - Ketidak pastian pembayaran UTANG Negara (Negara
Tidak Mampu Bayar
 Utang)
 3) Aksi TERORISME  Pengeboman
 4) Masyarakat Tidak Percaya lagi terhadap MATA UANG
sendiri.
 
 Bila tidak ada tanda2 seperti diatas sebaiknya TIDAK
perlu cut Loss.
 Harga yakin akan kembali NORMAL, asal beli saham2
Fundamentalnya BAGUS.
 
 Jadi saya tidak pernah CUT LOSS, berapapun, harga
jatuh.
 Mungkin teman lain ada yang punya pengalaman lain.
 
 
 
 --
 Kalo cut loss di 3%, habis itu ambil dibawah...
 bukannya itu sama saja ngeshort, tapi lebih enggak
deg-degan? :)
 
 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:12 AM
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat
milis
 
 
 Berapapun index turun saya tidak akan CUT LOSS, saya
akan
 beli - berapapun dilevel terendah.
 Ingat RUGI bila cut loss.
 --
 setuju pak, hati2 kalau cut loss dah jadi budaya,
 bakalan gulung tikar... he..he..he.
 
 cheers
 iful
 


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[obrolan-bandar] IHSG+RP: Carry Trade Speculan + Dump LOSS to the LOWER....Re: sedikit saran buat

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant



Pagi ini embah UDAH agak lega lagi buat NULIS

Tadi pagi embah baca tulisan Ferry Latuhihin, ekonom yang kumisnya
nya model kumis Fu Man Chu. Dia bilang GONJANG GANJING ini sih
kerjaan Carry Trade Speculant jadi jangan BAWA BAWA soal suku
bunga. 

IHSG dan Rupiah bergerak BERLAWANAN drastis dengan prediski 
Kaum Hiperbolis (?) yang bilang IHSG dan Rupiah akan tancap gas ke 
1700 dan 8300. Kenapa bisa TERJADI ?. Ini penjelasan si FL:
- Para Speculan asing ngeshort YEN, EOURO dan lain lain
 Hard Currency (HC) terhadap USD. 
- Tapi kenyataannya USD katanya TERPELANTING terhadap HC. Akibatnya
 mereka harus COVER segera. Untuk menutup itu dia menjual SOFT
 CURRENCY IDR, Bath dll (SC).
- Akibatnya SC drop terhadap USD dan IDR paling GEDE impasnya 
 karena HOT MONEY yang masuk Indonesia yang paling GEDE.

Itu kurang lebih cerita FL di Kompas pagi ini, kalo embah salah
interpretasinya mohon dikoreksi.

Embah mau coba hubungkan teori FL dengan teori Bandarmologi
untuk menjelaskan KEJATUHAN BURSA yaitu teori:

- DUMP THE LOSS to THE LOWER LEVEL

Yang terjemahannya 'BEBAS'nya adalah: 
- Dimarket berlaku HUKUM RIMBA, yang GEDE mukul yang KECIL dan
 yang KECIL mukul yang LEBIH KECIL LAGI...

Ketika Carry Trade Speculant diatas BERGERAK DENGAN CEPAT menghabisi
Rupiah maka para Bozz LOKAL otomatis KENA GEBUK alias RUGI...

Dari research embah selama bertahun tahun, embah menemukan POLA
yang sama jika para BOZZ kena GEBUK. Yaitu mereka akan MENGGEBUK
yang LEBIH KECIL LAGI. Pola ini terjadi saat GONJANG GANJING
BESAR seperti kerusuhan, bom , dan peristiwa politik yang NEGATIF.

Jadi jika anda melihat IHSG digebuk ampe 200 point dalam 2 hari,
itu adalah GEBUKAN untuk memindahkan THE LOSS kelevel yang lebih
bawah. Kalo engga percaya tanya BERAPA BANYAK YG RUGI CUT LOSS
kemarin ?.



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 Pengalaman, saya pernah beli ISAT 5300 (terlalu tinggi) di bln 
Jan'06
 lalu turun teruss, 4500-4600, saya uji kesabaran saya, e, ternyata
 April'06 kembali, malah untung ...
 
 Krn, menurut TEORI CUT LOSS, hanya boleh dilakukan bila kondisi sbb:
 1) Kondisi Politik di suatu negara sedang BERGEJOLAK/ tidak menentu
 misal: Terjadi perebutan KEKUASAAN
 2) Kondisi Ekonomi TIDAK Stabil (banyak perubahan akibat No.1)
 misalnya:
 - Perubahan Drastis terhadap SUKU BUNGA
 - EMBARGO Ekonomi oleh suatu negara.
 - Cadangan Devisa Negara TIPIS
 - Ketidak pastian pembayaran UTANG Negara (Negara Tidak Mampu 
Bayar
 Utang)
 3) Aksi TERORISME  Pengeboman
 4) Masyarakat Tidak Percaya lagi terhadap MATA UANG sendiri.
 
 Bila tidak ada tanda2 seperti diatas sebaiknya TIDAK perlu cut Loss.
 Harga yakin akan kembali NORMAL, asal beli saham2 Fundamentalnya 
BAGUS.
 
 Jadi saya tidak pernah CUT LOSS, berapapun, harga jatuh.
 Mungkin teman lain ada yang punya pengalaman lain.
 
 
 
 --
 Kalo cut loss di 3%, habis itu ambil dibawah...
 bukannya itu sama saja ngeshort, tapi lebih enggak deg-degan? :)
 
 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:12 AM
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis
 
 
 Berapapun index turun saya tidak akan CUT LOSS, saya akan
 beli - berapapun dilevel terendah.
 Ingat RUGI bila cut loss.
 --
 setuju pak, hati2 kalau cut loss dah jadi budaya,
 bakalan gulung tikar... he..he..he.
 
 cheers
 iful










  
  
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Angka FIBONACCI, memang SAKTI

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Alfred Surya
Title: Message





10:38
IHSG 
+52

time 
to buy? mbah mohon petunjuk
thanks

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
  Behalf Of oentoeng_qSent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:28 
  AMTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSubject: 
  [obrolan-bandar] Re: Angka FIBONACCI, memang SAKTIBOZZ 
  juga suka BERMAIN ANGKA mbah...Kita lihat aja permainan minggu 
  ini...Saya IKUT BERDUKA yg CUT LOSS kemarin2--- In 
  obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant" 
  jsx-[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 09:57  
  IHSG +45 dilevel 61,8% dari LOW...  Angka FIBONACCI, memang 
  SAKTI makanya embah lagi MEMBUDAYAKAN angka 2 FIBONACCI 
  ini...




  
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Angka FIBONACCI, memang SAKTI

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Iffan Suryanto
Title: Message





Sekuritas saya juga bilang akan dibantai lagi sesi 
ke dua nanti..
ini hanya jebakan bull...

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Alfred Surya 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:42 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Angka 
  FIBONACCI, memang SAKTI
  
  10:38
  IHSG 
  +52
  
  time 
  to buy? mbah mohon petunjuk
  thanks
  

-Original Message-From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
oentoeng_qSent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:28 
AMTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSubject: 
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Angka FIBONACCI, memang SAKTIBOZZ 
juga suka BERMAIN ANGKA mbah...Kita lihat aja permainan minggu 
ini...Saya IKUT BERDUKA yg CUT LOSS kemarin2--- In 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant" 
jsx-[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 09:57  
IHSG +45 dilevel 61,8% dari LOW...  Angka FIBONACCI, memang 
SAKTI makanya embah lagi MEMBUDAYAKAN angka 2 FIBONACCI 
ini...




  
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Angka FIBONACCI, memang SAKTI

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Dhany S
Title: Message





mestinya kalo percaya fundamental, gak akan cut 
loss...
kecuali yg based on rumor

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Alfred Surya 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:42 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Angka 
  FIBONACCI, memang SAKTI
  
  10:38
  IHSG 
  +52
  
  time 
  to buy? mbah mohon petunjuk
  thanks
  

-Original Message-From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
oentoeng_qSent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:28 
AMTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSubject: 
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Angka FIBONACCI, memang SAKTIBOZZ 
juga suka BERMAIN ANGKA mbah...Kita lihat aja permainan minggu 
ini...Saya IKUT BERDUKA yg CUT LOSS kemarin2--- In 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant" 
jsx-[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 09:57  
IHSG +45 dilevel 61,8% dari LOW...  Angka FIBONACCI, memang 
SAKTI makanya embah lagi MEMBUDAYAKAN angka 2 FIBONACCI 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis to p oentoeng

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Karno Edy



Yg tadi guyur bumi 880  890
Ini Bakrie sendiri, BOS bego, orang panik, atau orang mau gertak ?


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From: gitto kurniasanto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis to p oentoeng


 wah pak oentoeng tapi kapan berangkatnya! apakah anda
 yakin tau persis ttg inaf, pnbn? thx
 --- obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
 quot;bozz_kuquot; [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  BUMI Gonjang-ganjing...GO GO GO
  Salah satu teman kami bilang gitu...
 
  Special watch BUMI..
 MELEDAKnya bisa RUARRR BIASAA bisa ngalahin MERAPI
 katanye!?
 
  gimana PNBN, INAF ???
  How high can you GO??
 PNBN teman2 OB bisa BELAJAR dari pengalaman
 CTRAntar saya buat
 ANALISA-nya
 INAFsudah cukup BARANG-nya ya BOZZ ?
 It's TIME TO GO
 Edan..edanan dah kalau BOZZ sendiri yg NGOMONG
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] buang blta

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Santo Vibby





BLTA dari tadi udah dibuang koq di angka 2030 ampe 
ke 1990, tapi saya menilai itu merupakan koreksi wajar yg terjadi hampir di 
seluruh stock yg naik pagi ini pak...

Bahkan, jika tak salah saya melihat Buangan BLTA 
dimakan mentah2 ama FX dan tidak terjadi penjebolan supportnya.. So mendingan 
anda cross cek sendiri dgn analisa anda, drpd menelan mentah2 infodr 
sekuritas anda..

Jika ... hanya jika lho.. tidak terjadi apa2 
di JSX, maka itungan saya BLTA kemungkinan tutup di sekitar 2050 
keatas



regards

Vibby



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Giselle 
  Wang 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 11:25 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] buang 
  blta
  saya juga dengar rumor yg sama. any 
  comment...?oho milyuners [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

  sekuritas 
saya mengatakan bahwa blta akan diguyur ntarsiang.--- obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:   Pengalaman, saya pernah beli ISAT 5300 
(terlalutinggi) di bln Jan'06 lalu turun teruss, 4500-4600, saya 
uji kesabaransaya, e, ternyata April'06 kembali, malah untung 
...  Krn, menurut TEORI CUT LOSS, hanya boleh 
dilakukanbila kondisi sbb: 1) Kondisi Politik di suatu negara 
sedangBERGEJOLAK/ tidak menentu misal: Terjadi perebutan 
KEKUASAAN 2) Kondisi Ekonomi TIDAK Stabil (banyak 
perubahanakibat No.1) misalnya: - Perubahan 
Drastis terhadap SUKU BUNGA - EMBARGO Ekonomi oleh suatu 
negara. - Cadangan Devisa Negara TIPIS - Ketidak 
pastian pembayaran UTANG Negara (NegaraTidak Mampu Bayar 
Utang) 3) Aksi TERORISME  Pengeboman 4) Masyarakat 
Tidak Percaya lagi terhadap MATA UANGsendiri.  Bila 
tidak ada tanda2 seperti diatas sebaiknya TIDAKperlu cut Loss. 
Harga yakin akan kembali NORMAL, asal beli saham2Fundamentalnya 
BAGUS.  Jadi saya tidak pernah CUT LOSS, berapapun, 
hargajatuh. Mungkin teman lain ada yang punya pengalaman 
lain.
-- Kalo cut loss di 3%, 
habis itu ambil dibawah... bukannya itu sama saja ngeshort, tapi 
lebih enggakdeg-degan? :)  - Original Message 
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 
9:12 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran 
buatmilis   Berapapun index turun saya tidak 
akan CUT LOSS, sayaakan beli - berapapun dilevel 
terendah. Ingat RUGI bila cut loss. 
-- setuju pak, hati2 kalau cut loss 
dah jadi budaya, bakalan gulung tikar... he..he..he. 
 cheers iful 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis to p oentoeng

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Teddy Halim



Biasa pak KE, Bakri grup kayanya emang jagonya di soal gini gini.. itu mesti angkat topi deh soal Financial Engineering market manipulationnya.. Soal fundamental perusahaan mah egp kali ya..Buat investor mah keep away from these group, ga ada istilah creating share holder values..
On 5/17/06, Karno Edy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yg tadi guyur bumi 880  890Ini Bakrie sendiri, BOS bego, orang panik, atau orang mau gertak ?- Original Message -From: gitto kurniasanto 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:44 AMSubject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis to p oentoeng
 wah pak oentoeng tapi kapan berangkatnya! apakah anda yakin tau persis ttg inaf, pnbn? thx --- obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, quot;bozz_kuquot; [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   BUMI Gonjang-ganjing...GO GO GO  Salah satu teman kami bilang gitu...   Special watch BUMI.. MELEDAKnya bisa RUARRR BIASAA bisa ngalahin MERAPI
 katanye!?   gimana PNBN, INAF ???  How high can you GO?? PNBN teman2 OB bisa BELAJAR dari pengalaman CTRAntar saya buat ANALISA-nya
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Arthoer




PENARI ULAR ALA BUMI 


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[obrolan-bandar] Re: buang blta

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik tuangede



tergantung anda sbg investor atau trader. banyak sekali gosip 
beredar sekarang ini. Saya setuju dgn mas vibby...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Santo Vibby [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 BLTA dari tadi udah dibuang koq di angka 2030 ampe ke 1990, tapi 
saya menilai itu merupakan koreksi wajar yg terjadi hampir di 
seluruh stock yg naik pagi ini pak...
 
 Bahkan, jika tak salah saya melihat Buangan BLTA dimakan mentah2 
ama FX dan tidak terjadi penjebolan supportnya.. So mendingan anda 
cross cek sendiri dgn analisa anda, drpd menelan mentah2 info dr 
sekuritas anda..
 
 Jika ... hanya jika lho.. tidak terjadi apa2 di JSX, maka itungan 
saya BLTA kemungkinan tutup di sekitar 2050 keatas
 
 
 
 regards
 
 Vibby
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Giselle Wang 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 11:25 AM
 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] buang blta
 
 
 saya juga dengar rumor yg sama. any comment...?
 
 oho milyuners [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 sekuritas saya mengatakan bahwa blta akan diguyur ntar
 siang.
 --- obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  Pengalaman, saya pernah beli ISAT 5300 (terlalu
 tinggi) di bln Jan'06
  lalu turun teruss, 4500-4600, saya uji kesabaran
 saya, e, ternyata
  April'06 kembali, malah untung ...
  
  Krn, menurut TEORI CUT LOSS, hanya boleh dilakukan
 bila kondisi sbb:
  1) Kondisi Politik di suatu negara sedang
 BERGEJOLAK/ tidak menentu
  misal: Terjadi perebutan KEKUASAAN
  2) Kondisi Ekonomi TIDAK Stabil (banyak perubahan
 akibat No.1)
  misalnya:
  - Perubahan Drastis terhadap SUKU BUNGA
  - EMBARGO Ekonomi oleh suatu negara.
  - Cadangan Devisa Negara TIPIS
  - Ketidak pastian pembayaran UTANG Negara (Negara
 Tidak Mampu Bayar
  Utang)
  3) Aksi TERORISME  Pengeboman
  4) Masyarakat Tidak Percaya lagi terhadap MATA UANG
 sendiri.
  
  Bila tidak ada tanda2 seperti diatas sebaiknya TIDAK
 perlu cut Loss.
  Harga yakin akan kembali NORMAL, asal beli saham2
 Fundamentalnya BAGUS.
  
  Jadi saya tidak pernah CUT LOSS, berapapun, harga
 jatuh.
  Mungkin teman lain ada yang punya pengalaman lain.
  
  
  
  --
  Kalo cut loss di 3%, habis itu ambil dibawah...
  bukannya itu sama saja ngeshort, tapi lebih enggak
 deg-degan? :)
  
  - Original Message -
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:12 AM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat
 milis
  
  
  Berapapun index turun saya tidak akan CUT LOSS, saya
 akan
  beli - berapapun dilevel terendah.
  Ingat RUGI bila cut loss.
  --
  setuju pak, hati2 kalau cut loss dah jadi budaya,
  bakalan gulung tikar... he..he..he.
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] buang blta

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Teddy Halim



buy / sell on rumour? Katanya kudu sell on news buy on rumour...BLTA perusahaan ok 





  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis to p oentoeng

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik tuangede



Kayanya meledak ke bawah nih...inpo-nya div/sh cuman 10 perak. 
kalau bener gile bener...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Karno Edy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 Yg tadi guyur bumi 880  890
 Ini Bakrie sendiri, BOS bego, orang panik, atau orang mau gertak ?
 
 
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 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:44 AM
 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran buat milis to p 
oentoeng
 
 
  wah pak oentoeng tapi kapan berangkatnya! apakah anda
  yakin tau persis ttg inaf, pnbn? thx
  --- obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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   Salah satu teman kami bilang gitu...
  
   Special watch BUMI..
  MELEDAKnya bisa RUARRR BIASAA bisa ngalahin MERAPI
  katanye!?
  
   gimana PNBN, INAF ???
   How high can you GO??
  PNBN teman2 OB bisa BELAJAR dari pengalaman
  CTRAntar saya buat
  ANALISA-nya
  INAFsudah cukup BARANG-nya ya BOZZ ?
  It's TIME TO GO
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] buang blta

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Dhany S





fundamentalnya minimal di 3000 bukan 
pak?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Santo Vibby 

  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 11:33 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] buang 
  blta
  
  BLTA dari tadi udah dibuang koq di angka 2030 
  ampe ke 1990, tapi saya menilai itu merupakan koreksi wajar yg terjadi hampir 
  di seluruh stock yg naik pagi ini pak...
  
  Bahkan, jika tak salah saya melihat Buangan BLTA 
  dimakan mentah2 ama FX dan tidak terjadi penjebolan supportnya.. So mendingan 
  anda cross cek sendiri dgn analisa anda, drpd menelan mentah2 infodr 
  sekuritas anda..
  
  Jika ... hanya jika lho.. tidak terjadi 
  apa2 di JSX, maka itungan saya BLTA kemungkinan tutup di sekitar 2050 
  keatas
  
  
  
  regards
  
  Vibby
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Giselle 
Wang 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 11:25 
AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] buang 
blta
saya juga dengar rumor yg sama. any 
comment...?oho milyuners [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: 
sekuritas 
  saya mengatakan bahwa blta akan diguyur ntarsiang.--- obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:   Pengalaman, saya pernah beli ISAT 5300 
  (terlalutinggi) di bln Jan'06 lalu turun teruss, 4500-4600, 
  saya uji kesabaransaya, e, ternyata April'06 kembali, malah 
  untung ...  Krn, menurut TEORI CUT LOSS, hanya boleh 
  dilakukanbila kondisi sbb: 1) Kondisi Politik di suatu negara 
  sedangBERGEJOLAK/ tidak menentu misal: Terjadi perebutan 
  KEKUASAAN 2) Kondisi Ekonomi TIDAK Stabil (banyak 
  perubahanakibat No.1) misalnya: - 
  Perubahan Drastis terhadap SUKU BUNGA - EMBARGO Ekonomi oleh 
  suatu negara. - Cadangan Devisa Negara TIPIS - 
  Ketidak pastian pembayaran UTANG Negara (NegaraTidak Mampu 
  Bayar Utang) 3) Aksi TERORISME  Pengeboman 4) 
  Masyarakat Tidak Percaya lagi terhadap MATA UANGsendiri. 
   Bila tidak ada tanda2 seperti diatas sebaiknya TIDAKperlu cut 
  Loss. Harga yakin akan kembali NORMAL, asal beli 
  saham2Fundamentalnya BAGUS.  Jadi saya tidak pernah 
  CUT LOSS, berapapun, hargajatuh. Mungkin teman lain ada yang 
  punya pengalaman lain.
  -- Kalo cut loss di 3%, 
  habis itu ambil dibawah... bukannya itu sama saja ngeshort, tapi 
  lebih enggakdeg-degan? :)  - Original Message 
  - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
  obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 
  2006 9:12 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran 
  buatmilis   Berapapun index turun saya tidak 
  akan CUT LOSS, sayaakan beli - berapapun dilevel 
  terendah. Ingat RUGI bila cut loss. 
  -- setuju pak, hati2 kalau cut 
  loss dah jadi budaya, bakalan gulung tikar... he..he..he. 
   cheers iful 
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[obrolan-bandar] Harapan

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Others





Hm...kalo menurut saya, ada baiknya IHSG mengalami
major 
koreksi dulu. Hitungannya mungkin kearah 1200an.
Dengan 
demikian, harga saham2 lebih 'masuk akal' daripada
sekarang yang cenderung berdasarkan sentimen. 
hehehe...

Ayo..Bozz..masa ga bisa menghantam IHSG ke 
1200an?

  




  
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] buang blta

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Oskar Syahbana



Ya ke 3000 sih kayaknya nyampe. Tapi kapannya itu loh pak masalahnya. Dan sepanjang jalan menuju 3000 kan bisa naik turun harga sahamnya. Belinya nanti pas turun lagi :-DOn 5/17/06, 
Dhany S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:









fundamentalnya minimal di 3000 bukan 
pak?

  - Original Message - 
  
From: 
  Santo Vibby 

  To: 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 11:33 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] buang 
  blta
  
  BLTA dari tadi udah dibuang koq di angka 2030 
  ampe ke 1990, tapi saya menilai itu merupakan koreksi wajar yg terjadi hampir 
  di seluruh stock yg naik pagi ini pak...
  
  Bahkan, jika tak salah saya melihat Buangan BLTA 
  dimakan mentah2 ama FX dan tidak terjadi penjebolan supportnya.. So mendingan 
  anda cross cek sendiri dgn analisa anda, drpd menelan mentah2 infodr 
  sekuritas anda..
  
  Jika ... hanya jika lho.. tidak terjadi 
  apa2 di JSX, maka itungan saya BLTA kemungkinan tutup di sekitar 2050 
  keatas
  
  
  
  regards
  
  Vibby
  
  
  
- Original Message - 

From: 
Giselle 
Wang 
To: 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 11:25 
AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] buang 
blta
saya juga dengar rumor yg sama. any 
comment...?oho milyuners [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: 
sekuritas 
  saya mengatakan bahwa blta akan diguyur ntarsiang.--- obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:   Pengalaman, saya pernah beli ISAT 5300 
  (terlalutinggi) di bln Jan'06 lalu turun teruss, 4500-4600, 
  saya uji kesabaransaya, e, ternyata April'06 kembali, malah 
  untung ...  Krn, menurut TEORI CUT LOSS, hanya boleh 
  dilakukanbila kondisi sbb: 1) Kondisi Politik di suatu negara 
  sedangBERGEJOLAK/ tidak menentu misal: Terjadi perebutan 
  KEKUASAAN 2) Kondisi Ekonomi TIDAK Stabil (banyak 
  perubahanakibat No.1) misalnya: - 
  Perubahan Drastis terhadap SUKU BUNGA - EMBARGO Ekonomi oleh 
  suatu negara. - Cadangan Devisa Negara TIPIS - 
  Ketidak pastian pembayaran UTANG Negara (NegaraTidak Mampu 
  Bayar Utang) 3) Aksi TERORISME  Pengeboman 4) 
  Masyarakat Tidak Percaya lagi terhadap MATA UANGsendiri. 
   Bila tidak ada tanda2 seperti diatas sebaiknya TIDAKperlu cut 
  Loss. Harga yakin akan kembali NORMAL, asal beli 
  saham2Fundamentalnya BAGUS.  Jadi saya tidak pernah 
  CUT LOSS, berapapun, hargajatuh. Mungkin teman lain ada yang 
  punya pengalaman lain.
  -- Kalo cut loss di 3%, 
  habis itu ambil dibawah... bukannya itu sama saja ngeshort, tapi 
  lebih enggakdeg-degan? :)  - Original Message 
  - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
  obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 
  2006 9:12 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: sedikit saran 
  buatmilis   Berapapun index turun saya tidak 
  akan CUT LOSS, sayaakan beli - berapapun dilevel 
  terendah. Ingat RUGI bila cut loss. 
  -- setuju pak, hati2 kalau cut 
  loss dah jadi budaya, bakalan gulung tikar... he..he..he. 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] buang blta

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Dhany S





kalo emang gitu, kenapa harus takut kena guyur? 
cuek aja deh kalo mo jadi investor...

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Oskar 
  Syahbana 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 11:52 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] buang 
  blta
  Ya ke 3000 sih kayaknya nyampe. Tapi kapannya itu loh pak 
  masalahnya. Dan sepanjang jalan menuju 3000 kan bisa naik turun harga 
  sahamnya. Belinya nanti pas turun lagi :-D
  On 5/17/06, Dhany S 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  


fundamentalnya minimal di 3000 bukan 
pak?


- 
Original Message - 
From: 
Santo Vibby 
To: 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: 
Wednesday, May 17, 2006 11:33 AM
Subject: 
Re: [obrolan-bandar] buang blta

BLTA dari tadi udah dibuang koq di angka 2030 
ampe ke 1990, tapi saya menilai itu merupakan koreksi wajar yg terjadi 
hampir di seluruh stock yg naik pagi ini pak...

Bahkan, jika tak salah saya melihat Buangan 
BLTA dimakan mentah2 ama FX dan tidak terjadi penjebolan supportnya.. So 
mendingan anda cross cek sendiri dgn analisa anda, drpd menelan mentah2 
infodr sekuritas anda..

Jika ... hanya jika lho.. tidak terjadi 
apa2 di JSX, maka itungan saya BLTA kemungkinan tutup di sekitar 2050 
keatas



regards

Vibby



  - 
  Original Message - 
  From: 
  Giselle Wang 
  To: 
  obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: 
  Wednesday, May 17, 2006 11:25 AM
  Subject: 
  Re: [obrolan-bandar] buang blta
  saya juga dengar rumor yg sama. any 
  comment...?oho milyuners [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  sekuritas 
saya mengatakan bahwa blta akan diguyur ntarsiang.--- obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
 Pengalaman, saya pernah beli ISAT 5300 (terlalutinggi) di 
bln Jan'06 lalu turun teruss, 4500-4600, saya uji 
kesabaransaya, e, ternyata April'06 kembali, malah untung 
...  Krn, menurut TEORI CUT LOSS, hanya boleh 
dilakukanbila kondisi sbb: 1) Kondisi Politik di suatu 
negara sedangBERGEJOLAK/ tidak menentu misal: Terjadi 
perebutan KEKUASAAN 2) Kondisi Ekonomi TIDAK Stabil (banyak 
perubahanakibat No.1) misalnya: - 
Perubahan Drastis terhadap SUKU BUNGA - EMBARGO Ekonomi 
oleh suatu negara. - Cadangan Devisa Negara 
TIPIS - Ketidak pastian pembayaran UTANG Negara 
(NegaraTidak Mampu Bayar Utang) 3) Aksi TERORISME 
 Pengeboman 4) Masyarakat Tidak Percaya lagi terhadap MATA 
UANGsendiri.  Bila tidak ada tanda2 seperti diatas 
sebaiknya TIDAKperlu cut Loss. Harga yakin akan kembali 
NORMAL, asal beli saham2Fundamentalnya BAGUS.  Jadi 
saya tidak pernah CUT LOSS, berapapun, hargajatuh. Mungkin 
teman lain ada yang punya pengalaman lain.   
 -- Kalo cut 
loss di 3%, habis itu ambil dibawah... bukannya itu sama saja 
ngeshort, tapi lebih enggakdeg-degan? :)  - 
Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: 
Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:12 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: 
sedikit saran buatmilis   Berapapun index 
turun saya tidak akan CUT LOSS, sayaakan beli - berapapun 
dilevel terendah. Ingat RUGI bila cut loss. 
-- setuju pak, hati2 kalau cut 
loss dah jadi budaya, bakalan gulung tikar... 
he..he..he.  cheers iful 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] buang blta

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik Oskar Syahbana



Kalo bisa buy low, kenapa harus buy high, tul ga :-DYa kalo kita buy high, harus sell higher. Nah kalo kondisi JSX kayak begini kan kita juga maish gamang, kapan kondisi highernya bakalan kesampean
On 5/17/06, Dhany S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:









kalo emang gitu, kenapa harus takut kena guyur? 
cuek aja deh kalo mo jadi investor...

  - Original Message - 
  
From: 
  Oskar 
  Syahbana 
  To: 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 11:52 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] buang 
  blta
  Ya ke 3000 sih kayaknya nyampe. Tapi kapannya itu loh pak 
  masalahnya. Dan sepanjang jalan menuju 3000 kan bisa naik turun harga 
  sahamnya. Belinya nanti pas turun lagi :-D
  On 5/17/06, Dhany S 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  


fundamentalnya minimal di 3000 bukan 
pak?


- 
Original Message - 

From: 
Santo Vibby 
To: 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: 
Wednesday, May 17, 2006 11:33 AM
Subject: 
Re: [obrolan-bandar] buang blta

BLTA dari tadi udah dibuang koq di angka 2030 
ampe ke 1990, tapi saya menilai itu merupakan koreksi wajar yg terjadi 
hampir di seluruh stock yg naik pagi ini pak...

Bahkan, jika tak salah saya melihat Buangan 
BLTA dimakan mentah2 ama FX dan tidak terjadi penjebolan supportnya.. So 
mendingan anda cross cek sendiri dgn analisa anda, drpd menelan mentah2 
infodr sekuritas anda..

Jika ... hanya jika lho.. tidak terjadi 
apa2 di JSX, maka itungan saya BLTA kemungkinan tutup di sekitar 2050 
keatas



regards

Vibby



  - 
  Original Message - 
  
From: 
  Giselle Wang 
  To: 
  obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: 
  Wednesday, May 17, 2006 11:25 AM
  Subject: 
  Re: [obrolan-bandar] buang blta
  saya juga dengar rumor yg sama. any 
  comment...?oho milyuners [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  sekuritas 
saya mengatakan bahwa blta akan diguyur ntarsiang.--- obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
 Pengalaman, saya pernah beli ISAT 5300 (terlalutinggi) di 
bln Jan'06 lalu turun teruss, 4500-4600, saya uji 
kesabaransaya, e, ternyata April'06 kembali, malah untung 
...  Krn, menurut TEORI CUT LOSS, hanya boleh 
dilakukanbila kondisi sbb: 1) Kondisi Politik di suatu 
negara sedangBERGEJOLAK/ tidak menentu misal: Terjadi 
perebutan KEKUASAAN 2) Kondisi Ekonomi TIDAK Stabil (banyak 
perubahanakibat No.1) misalnya: - 
Perubahan Drastis terhadap SUKU BUNGA - EMBARGO Ekonomi 
oleh suatu negara. - Cadangan Devisa Negara 
TIPIS - Ketidak pastian pembayaran UTANG Negara 
(NegaraTidak Mampu Bayar Utang) 3) Aksi TERORISME 
 Pengeboman 4) Masyarakat Tidak Percaya lagi terhadap MATA 
UANGsendiri.  Bila tidak ada tanda2 seperti diatas 
sebaiknya TIDAKperlu cut Loss. Harga yakin akan kembali 
NORMAL, asal beli saham2Fundamentalnya BAGUS.  Jadi 
saya tidak pernah CUT LOSS, berapapun, hargajatuh. Mungkin 
teman lain ada yang punya pengalaman lain.   
 -- Kalo cut 
loss di 3%, habis itu ambil dibawah... bukannya itu sama saja 
ngeshort, tapi lebih enggakdeg-degan? :)  - 
Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: 
Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:12 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: 
sedikit saran buatmilis   Berapapun index 
turun saya tidak akan CUT LOSS, sayaakan beli - berapapun 
dilevel terendah. Ingat RUGI bila cut loss. 
-- setuju pak, hati2 kalau cut 
loss dah jadi budaya, bakalan gulung tikar... 
he..he..he.  cheers iful 
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