[obrolan-bandar] Re: Fund Managers = Skenario data

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik ratmanard

A litle bit corection Pak Oen, maybe you would say overbought 
instead of ovesrold. Please correct me if I were wrong.
I'd love to join both of you to have a cup of coffee if you all 
allow me.
I like to learn from expert
Cheers





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 you are still sharp pak oen.
   hope some day we can have a cup of coffee and diiscuss funny 
things about jsx...
 
 oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   sby = mud by lapindo brantas...no no no i don't like it
 Just my excuses Mr. Frederick...but i know main index still 
flying 
 high besides TA say oversold.
 now i say this month will reach 1400 but not this week...
 soam I cenayang???
 index will fall because you (big player) take vacation..or by 
 planned agenda?
 hehehe.
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert 
 pemainbesar@ wrote:
 
  dear pak oentoeng...
  honestly(i suggest) not many people here like or love 
 SBY.hehehehe
  so, main index movement doesn't have any relations with HIM at 
 any cost.
  the main index rally mostly because of good charting and the 
 fact that inflation has fallen faster than expected, paving up a 
way 
 for an interest rate cut.. which is for some reasons is key for 
econ 
 recovery...
  malah...tanggal 15 or 16 aug and 22 aug...the main index will 
 fall
  
  oentoeng_q oentoeng_q@ wrote:
  
   Kalau minggu depan saya menantikan akhir Prediksi Suhu di satu 
 sisi 
   ada upaya BOZZ untuk memoles BEJ buat Pidato Kepresidenan. 
 Very 
   interesting….
   
  Indeks BEJ 1378,.., +7,..
  TA Trader say oversold...oh noreal bullish??
  Fundamental Trader say. big price cut??
  Just wanna say very very interesting..
  
  
  
  
  
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] BMRI

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik Rony Santoso





eyang/pak tasrul, 


apakah indicator yang 
dimaksud W%R Z 
Rules/ CMF Z 
rulespak tasrul ada pada 
metastock?
atau itu property of Limas 
group?

sptnya menarik untuk 
dipelajari. bagaimana cara mendapatkannya?

salam,
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Fund Managers = Skenario data

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q
hard thanx Eyang Ratmand atas koreksinya.
itu bukti bukan tulisan expert.
saya pemula yg setiap hari belajar dari bursa
jika bapak ingin join minum kopi bareng Pak Frederick, moga2 saja 
beliau yang nraktir. 
Soalnya Mbah ama teman2 yg lain pasti ingin ikutan dan Pak Frederick 
karena Pemain Besar pasti gelasnya juga besar.
Hi3x..

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ratmanard [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 A litle bit corection Pak Oen, maybe you would say overbought 
 instead of ovesrold. Please correct me if I were wrong.
 I'd love to join both of you to have a cup of coffee if you all 
 allow me.
 I like to learn from expert
 Cheers
 
 
 
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert 
 pemainbesar@ wrote:
 
  you are still sharp pak oen.
hope some day we can have a cup of coffee and diiscuss funny 
 things about jsx...
  
  oentoeng_q oentoeng_q@ wrote:
sby = mud by lapindo brantas...no no no i don't like it
  Just my excuses Mr. Frederick...but i know main index still 
 flying 
  high besides TA say oversold.
  now i say this month will reach 1400 but not this week...
  soam I cenayang???
  index will fall because you (big player) take vacation..or by 
  planned agenda?
  hehehe.
  
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert 
  pemainbesar@ wrote:
  
   dear pak oentoeng...
   honestly(i suggest) not many people here like or love 
  SBY.hehehehe
   so, main index movement doesn't have any relations with HIM at 
  any cost.
   the main index rally mostly because of good charting and the 
  fact that inflation has fallen faster than expected, paving up a 
 way 
  for an interest rate cut.. which is for some reasons is key for 
 econ 
  recovery...
   malah...tanggal 15 or 16 aug and 22 aug...the main index will 
  fall
   
   oentoeng_q oentoeng_q@ wrote:
   
Kalau minggu depan saya menantikan akhir Prediksi Suhu di 
satu 
  sisi 
ada upaya BOZZ untuk memoles BEJ buat Pidato Kepresidenan. 
  Very 
interesting….

   Indeks BEJ 1378,.., +7,..
   TA Trader say oversold...oh noreal bullish??
   Fundamental Trader say. big price cut??
   Just wanna say very very interesting..
   
   
   
   
   
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] BMRI

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik Tasrul





Indictor ini 
merupakan indicator yang dikembangkan dari yang ada di Metastock, jadi codingnya 
dibikin terlebih dahulu, untuk lebih jelas bisa dibaca pada buku :"Solusi 
Investasi di Bursa Saham Indonesia" karangan Bpk Hendra 
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From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
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BMRI

eyang/pak tasrul, 


apakah indicator yang 
dimaksud W%R Z 
Rules/ CMF Z 
rulespak tasrul ada pada 
metastock?
atau itu property of Limas 
group?

sptnya menarik untuk 
dipelajari. bagaimana cara mendapatkannya?

salam,
Rony 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Fund Managers = Skenario data

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik ratmanard
Sekali-kali ngumpul dg para bandar Pak Oen enak juga barangkali ya.
Pernah saya duduk didepan seorang bandar dengan enaknya dia 
mengguyur koleksi saya. Nasib kalau jadi pembeli eceran.





--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 hard thanx Eyang Ratmand atas koreksinya.
 itu bukti bukan tulisan expert.
 saya pemula yg setiap hari belajar dari bursa
 jika bapak ingin join minum kopi bareng Pak Frederick, moga2 saja 
 beliau yang nraktir. 
 Soalnya Mbah ama teman2 yg lain pasti ingin ikutan dan Pak 
Frederick 
 karena Pemain Besar pasti gelasnya juga besar.
 Hi3x..
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ratmanard ratman@ 
 wrote:
 
  
  A litle bit corection Pak Oen, maybe you would say overbought 
  instead of ovesrold. Please correct me if I were wrong.
  I'd love to join both of you to have a cup of coffee if you all 
  allow me.
  I like to learn from expert
  Cheers
  
  
  
  
  
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert 
  pemainbesar@ wrote:
  
   you are still sharp pak oen.
 hope some day we can have a cup of coffee and diiscuss funny 
  things about jsx...
   
   oentoeng_q oentoeng_q@ wrote:
 sby = mud by lapindo brantas...no no no i don't like 
it
   Just my excuses Mr. Frederick...but i know main index still 
  flying 
   high besides TA say oversold.
   now i say this month will reach 1400 but not this week...
   soam I cenayang???
   index will fall because you (big player) take vacation..or by 
   planned agenda?
   hehehe.
   
   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert 
   pemainbesar@ wrote:
   
dear pak oentoeng...
honestly(i suggest) not many people here like or love 
   SBY.hehehehe
so, main index movement doesn't have any relations with HIM 
at 
   any cost.
the main index rally mostly because of good charting and the 
   fact that inflation has fallen faster than expected, paving up 
a 
  way 
   for an interest rate cut.. which is for some reasons is key 
for 
  econ 
   recovery...
malah...tanggal 15 or 16 aug and 22 aug...the main index 
will 
   fall

oentoeng_q oentoeng_q@ wrote:

 Kalau minggu depan saya menantikan akhir Prediksi Suhu di 
 satu 
   sisi 
 ada upaya BOZZ untuk memoles BEJ buat Pidato 
Kepresidenan. 
   Very 
 interesting….
 
Indeks BEJ 1378,.., +7,..
TA Trader say oversold...oh noreal bullish??
Fundamental Trader say. big price cut??
Just wanna say very very interesting..





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RE: [obrolan-bandar] BMRI

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik Rony Santoso





boleh saya tahu apakah pak 
Tasrul coding lagi sendiri atau codingnya udah ada di buku 
tsb

karena urusan coding 
mengcoding di metastock saya masih awam.

thanks 

Rony


From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
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TasrulSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 1:28 PMTo: 
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BMRI



Indictor ini merupakan indicator yang 
dikembangkan dari yang ada di Metastock, jadi codingnya dibikin terlebih dahulu, 
untuk lebih jelas bisa dibaca pada buku :"Solusi Investasi di Bursa Saham 
Indonesia" karangan Bpk Hendra Syamsir



  
  

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From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:obrolan-[EMAIL PROTECTED]ps.com] On Behalf Of Rony 
SantosoSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 1:20 PMTo: 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comCc: 
junior_Trader@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] 
BMRI

eyang/pak tasrul, 


apakah indicator yang 
dimaksud W%R Z 
Rules/ CMF Z 
rulespak tasrul ada pada 
metastock?
atau itu property of Limas 
group?

sptnya menarik untuk 
dipelajari. bagaimana cara mendapatkannya?

salam,
Rony

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RE: [obrolan-bandar] BMRI

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik Tasrul





Ada di buku tersebut Pak..












  
  

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From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
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SantosoSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 1:57 PMTo: 
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BMRI

boleh saya tahu apakah pak 
Tasrul coding lagi sendiri atau codingnya udah ada di buku 
tsb

karena urusan coding 
mengcoding di metastock saya masih awam.

thanks 

Rony


From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
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TasrulSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 1:28 PMTo: 
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BMRI



Indictor ini merupakan indicator yang 
dikembangkan dari yang ada di Metastock, jadi codingnya dibikin terlebih dahulu, 
untuk lebih jelas bisa dibaca pada buku :"Solusi Investasi di Bursa Saham 
Indonesia" karangan Bpk Hendra Syamsir



  
  

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From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:obrolan-[EMAIL PROTECTED]ps.com] On Behalf Of Rony 
SantosoSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 1:20 PMTo: 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comCc: 
junior_Trader@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] 
BMRI

eyang/pak tasrul, 


apakah indicator yang 
dimaksud W%R Z 
Rules/ CMF Z 
rulespak tasrul ada pada 
metastock?
atau itu property of Limas 
group?

sptnya menarik untuk 
dipelajari. bagaimana cara mendapatkannya?

salam,
Rony
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM gimana ya hari ini

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik EKA SUWANDANA



ANTM laba bersih bakal bertambah between 30-40%. Let's see. JUST HOLDkoreksi tambah saja. Regional jelek.ALX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Lapkeu ANTM baru akan dirilis 31 Agt 06SalamOn 8/2/06, DAMERIAUS DAMERIAUS [EMAIL PROTECTED]com wrote:   Eyang, kayaknya laporan keuangannya gak dirilis hari ini ya .. saya cek di koran2 koq belum keluar yah ...Gimana nih prediksi eyang mengenai ANTM selanjutnya ?From: EKA SUWANDANA  [EMAIL PROTECTED]comReply-To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM gimana ya hari iniDate: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:02:57 -0700 (PDT)  ANTM bakal diangkat 2 AGUSTUS 2006 pas lap keu dirilis di koran2. Yg baru dirilis itu cuma kenaikan revenues yg naik lebih dari 90%. Target harga jangka pendek 6500, jangka menengah
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Liat bursa pake WAP

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik chakim
Tengkyu.  Wap.oa.yahoo.com bisa ngeliat jsx.  Cuma 4 kB. Jadinya Rp. 60,-
Jauh lebih murah daripada web apalagi sms. Sy pake Nokia 9300.

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On Behalf Of Odink
Sent: 02 Agustus 2006 11:00
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Liat bursa pake WAP

saya pake starone dan matrix.. gak ada masalah.. lancar jaya, mbah..

On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:46:18 +0700, jsx_consultant  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sambil nonton si BOZZ SWEATING fighting in her LONG DAY,
 embah mau share pengalaman embah liat bursa pake WAP:

 - Embah coba FREN (CDMA) dan MATRIX (GSM) untuk meliat
   WAP WEB pake PDA misalnya wap.etrading.co.id, wap.google.com,
   wap.oa.yahoo.com dll.
 - Untuk meliat WAP WEB yang local seperti RTI, ETRADING dll
   kedua duanya FREN dan MATRIX bisa jalan normal.
 - Tapi kalo untuk lihat bursa di yahoo wap.oa.yahoo.com, maka
   FREN macet macet sedang MATRIX jalan normal meskipun
   sampe BUKA 5 WINDOWS seklaigus.
 - Tarip FREN Rp 5/kb sedang MATRIX Rp 15/kb. MATRIX lebih
   mahal tapi BENER BENER OKE 

 Mohon informasinya dari yang pake FLEXI, STARONE, dll



 
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] BMRI

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik Rony Santoso





mantap... thanks pak



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Ada di buku tersebut Pak..







  
  

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From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
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SantosoSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 1:57 PMTo: 
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BMRI

boleh saya tahu apakah pak 
Tasrul coding lagi sendiri atau codingnya udah ada di buku 
tsb

karena urusan coding 
mengcoding di metastock saya masih awam.

thanks 

Rony


From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
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TasrulSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 1:28 PMTo: 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] 
BMRI



Indictor ini merupakan indicator yang 
dikembangkan dari yang ada di Metastock, jadi codingnya dibikin terlebih dahulu, 
untuk lebih jelas bisa dibaca pada buku :"Solusi Investasi di Bursa Saham 
Indonesia" karangan Bpk Hendra Syamsir



  
  

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From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:obrolan-[EMAIL PROTECTED]ps.com] On Behalf Of Rony 
SantosoSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 1:20 PMTo: 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comCc: 
junior_Trader@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] 
BMRI

eyang/pak tasrul, 


apakah indicator yang 
dimaksud W%R Z 
Rules/ CMF Z 
rulespak tasrul ada pada 
metastock?
atau itu property of Limas 
group?

sptnya menarik untuk 
dipelajari. bagaimana cara mendapatkannya?

salam,
Rony


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RE: [obrolan-bandar] OOT Banget Deh! Jihad banget Deh!!

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik Abraham Sihombing





Benerrr banget Bung Surya...

GBU, 
too.

  -Original Message-From: 
  obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On 
  Behalf Of surya hutagaolSent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:25 
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  [obrolan-bandar] OOT Banget Deh! Jihad banget Deh!!
  Ya udah...
  Saling memaafkan 
aja.
  Kalo ga kita mulai dari diri 
  sendiri untuk memaafkan dan mendoakan...
  GBU.
  
  ::GaoL::
  
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Banget Deh! Jihad banget Deh!!



pengen masuk tipi kali ?
kalo mainnya lokal aja kan enggak masuk tipi.

kali kali aja pada masuk CNN...
Emak... kita nongol di CNN Mak...
On 8/2/06, oot_y_oon [EMAIL PROTECTED]com 
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  Kulo nuwun Mbah,ini Jahat e.. Jihad banget dehh, aku denger ada 
  menteri dan ormasnya mau perang ke negri orang. Belum pergi alasannya 
  nunggu restu Presiden!Aduhh, mbah e..Aduhh makkk, Jangan bawa-bawa 
  Presiden deh, itu namanya maen-maen politik. Cari pesta di A tapi 
  kadonya suruh B yang bayar. kalau mau pergi, pergi aja kaleee, daftar 
  visanya, alasannya mau perang, siapa tahu dikaseh..Tidak 
  mengurangi rasa hormat, aku pikir masih banyak yang perlu di_Jihadi_ 
  di negri ini. TKW KITA diperkosa, TKI KITA disiksa, upah ditilap, 
  sungai-sungai KITA mampet, sekolah KITA pada ambruk. Jangan suatu 
  perkara malah dilebarkan sana-sini. Urusan anak-anak, jadi urusan 
  keluarga. Urusan keluarga jadi urusan kampung atau suku. Bakar sana- 
  bakar sini. Perang suku-perang sini.Ini ahli agama, ngajarnya apa sehh 
  ke umatnya?Gotong-royong? Emang sehh, kalau modal rusuh mah gampang, 
  hampir tanpa modal! Tapi coba gotong-royong buat bersihin kampung. Ada 
  nggak yang seheboh mau tawuran? Punya energi mbok ya salurin buat 
  yang positif, sekale lagee, buat rusuh itu paling gampang, lempar 
  aja kaca tetangga, kirim isu, jadi dehh tawuran.This is a game, 
  a-gama bukan agama, ya nggak BoSS. Matur nuwun 
  Mbah.-- gerombolan siberat 176 - 167 
 
  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] intermarket analysist

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik pemainbesar
the dow was down, but the jsx showed its resilient...
SO.can we rely on the intermarket analysis?







 
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[obrolan-bandar] RANGE JUAL HARGA SAHAM APEX berapa yah? Cara menghitung?

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik EKA SUWANDANA



Saya baca di indiatimes / timesofindia.com emang bener penawaran antara USD400 JT - USD550 jt . Utk sudah dipastikan 52% saham APEX.  Tanpa Tender Offer dihitung utk USD 550 JT --- Rp3600/lembar  Tapi ada teman yg bilang hitungannya (apabila tender offer dihitung!):550 JT USD / ( 2631501000 lembar saham * 80%)= Rp2300-2400/lbr (1USD=Rp 9100)  Jadi ada range Rp 2300 - 3600/lbr.Bener nggak sih? Ayo donk dibahas. Nggak usah malu2 bahas rejeki depan mata.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM gimana ya hari ini

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik Investor Bonex



Pak EKA, Avrg P/E ANTM biasanya di sekitar berapa ya ?, jika net sekitar 30% dg P/E 12-an, maka TPnya bisa ke 7500.Anyway, untuk FENI III, kabar terbaru gimana ya?, kapan kira2 realisticly bisa operate?.Salam,EKA SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  ANTM laba bersih bakal bertambah between 30-40%. Let's see. JUST HOLDkoreksi tambah saja. Regional jelek.ALX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Lapkeu ANTM baru akan dirilis 31 Agt 06SalamOn 8/2/06, DAMERIAUS DAMERIAUS [EMAIL PROTECTED]com wrote:   Eyang, kayaknya laporan keuangannya gak dirilis hari ini ya .. saya cek di koran2 koq belum keluar yah ...Gimana nih prediksi eyang mengenai ANTM selanjutnya ?From: EKA SUWANDANA  [EMAIL PROTECTED]comReply-To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM gimana ya hari iniDate: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:02:57 -0700 (PDT)  ANTM bakal diangkat 2 AGUSTUS 2006 pas lap keu dirilis di koran2. Yg baru dirilis itu cuma kenaikan revenues yg naik lebih dari 90%. Target harga jangka pendek 6500, jangka menengah 8000. Danny Eugene danny.eugene@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Eyang  ANTM hari ini gimana ya  mohon petunjuk   __Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.com/  __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] OOT Banget Deh! Jihad banget Deh!!

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik feter












Teman2, embah, pakar, sesepu, suhu, mau tanya
nih

GJTL akan menjual sharenya di ADMG,

Kira2 ADMG akan terangkat sampai brp yah,
bgm juga dg GJTL?

Tentunya dia akan mendapat dana segar dr
hsl penjualan ini dan bisa bayar htnya yg dlm USD

TOLONG.

Betulkan prediksi saya minggu pertama Aug06
IHSG bisa sampai 1420





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Stock Exchange











From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Abraham Sihombing
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006
3:11 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] OOT
Banget Deh! Jihad banget Deh!!













Benerrr banget Bung Surya...











GBU, too.





-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:obrolan-[EMAIL PROTECTED]ps.com]On Behalf Of surya hutagaol
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006
2:25 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] OOT
Banget Deh! Jihad banget Deh!!



Ya udah...





Saling
memaafkan aja.





Kalo ga kita
mulai dari diri sendiri untuk memaafkan dan mendoakan...





GBU.











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Sent: August 02, 2006
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Subject: Re:
[obrolan-bandar] OOT Banget Deh! Jihad banget Deh!!













pengen masuk tipi kali ?





kalo mainnya lokal aja kan
enggak masuk tipi.











kali kali aja pada masuk CNN...





Emak... kita nongol di CNN Mak...







On 8/2/06, oot_y_oon
[EMAIL PROTECTED]com
wrote: 











Kulo nuwun Mbah,
ini Jahat e.. Jihad banget dehh, aku denger ada menteri dan ormasnya 
mau perang ke negri orang. Belum pergi alasannya nunggu restu 
Presiden!
Aduhh, mbah e..Aduhh makkk, Jangan bawa-bawa Presiden deh, itu 
namanya maen-maen politik. Cari pesta di A tapi kadonya suruh B yang 
bayar. kalau mau pergi, pergi aja kaleee, daftar visanya, alasannya 
mau perang, siapa tahu dikaseh..
Tidak mengurangi rasa hormat, aku pikir masih banyak yang perlu 
di_Jihadi_ di negri ini. TKW KITA diperkosa, TKI KITA disiksa, upah 
ditilap, sungai-sungai KITA mampet, sekolah KITA pada ambruk. Jangan 
suatu perkara malah dilebarkan sana-sini. Urusan anak-anak, jadi 
urusan keluarga. Urusan keluarga jadi urusan kampung atau suku. 
Bakar sana-
bakar sini. Perang suku-perang sini.
Ini ahli agama, ngajarnya apa sehh ke umatnya?
Gotong-royong? Emang sehh, kalau modal rusuh mah gampang, hampir 
tanpa modal! Tapi coba gotong-royong buat bersihin kampung. Ada 
nggak yang seheboh mau tawuran? Punya energi mbok ya salurin buat 
yang positif, sekale lagee, buat rusuh itu paling gampang, lempar 
aja kaca tetangga, kirim isu, jadi dehh tawuran.
This is a game, a-gama bukan agama, ya nggak BoSS. 
Matur nuwun Mbah.
















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[obrolan-bandar] TABRAK LAGI YUk

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik Santo Vibby





NABRAK LAGI Y ?? 
Yangkayanya empuk : UNTR, CTRS (avg), 
TLKM, ELTY, BMRI
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM gimana ya hari ini

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik up_trends
gimana yg beli 5250 P Eka? boleh di short dulu?

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Investor Bonex 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pak EKA, Avrg P/E ANTM biasanya di sekitar berapa ya ?, jika net 
sekitar 30% dg P/E 12-an, maka TPnya bisa ke 7500.

   Anyway, untuk FENI III, kabar terbaru gimana ya?, kapan kira2 
realisticly bisa operate?.

   Salam,
 
 EKA SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   ANTM laba bersih bakal bertambah between 30-40%. Let's see. JUST 
HOLDkoreksi tambah saja. Regional jelek.
 
 ALX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
   Lapkeu ANTM baru akan dirilis 31 Agt 06

   Salam
   
 
  
   On 8/2/06, DAMERIAUS DAMERIAUS [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:   Eyang, kayaknya laporan keuangannya gak dirilis 
hari ini ya .. saya cek 
 di koran2 koq belum keluar yah ...
 
 Gimana nih prediksi eyang mengenai ANTM selanjutnya ?
 
 From: EKA SUWANDANA  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM gimana ya hari ini
 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:02:57 -0700 (PDT)
 
   
 
 ANTM bakal diangkat 2 AGUSTUS 2006 pas lap keu dirilis di koran2. 
Yg baru 
 dirilis itu cuma kenaikan revenues yg naik lebih dari 90%. Target 
harga 
 jangka pendek 6500, jangka menengah 8000. 
 
 
 Danny Eugene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Eyang  ANTM hari ini gimana ya  mohon petunjuk 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM gimana ya hari ini

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik EKA SUWANDANA



Betul pak harga bakal maen diatas 7500. PER ANTM kalo lihat historynya naik turun. Pernah selama setahun PER dibawah 9x. Tapi tahun 2002 maen di 10x-15x.  Feni III sepertinya bakal operasi bulan OKT, mudah2an soalnya Sulawesi cukup kering.Dimana yah bisa lihat wheather news indonesia seperti CNN?Investor Bonex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Pak EKA, Avrg P/E ANTM biasanya di sekitar berapa ya ?, jika net sekitar 30% dg P/E 12-an, maka TPnya bisa ke 7500.   
 Anyway, untuk FENI III, kabar terbaru gimana ya?, kapan kira2 realisticly bisa operate?.Salam,EKA SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED]com wrote:  ANTM laba bersih bakal bertambah between 30-40%. Let's see. JUST HOLDkoreksi tambah saja. Regional jelek.ALX alexmuhairuddin@gmail.com wrote:   Lapkeu ANTM baru akan dirilis 31 Agt 06SalamOn 8/2/06, DAMERIAUS DAMERIAUS [EMAIL PROTECTED]com wrote:   Eyang, kayaknya laporan keuangannya gak dirilis hari ini ya .. saya cek di koran2 koq belum keluar yah ...Gimana nih prediksi eyang mengenai ANTM selanjutnya ?From: EKA SUWANDANA  [EMAIL PROTECTED]comReply-To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM gimana ya hari iniDate: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:02:57 -0700 (PDT)  ANTM bakal diangkat 2 AGUSTUS 2006 pas lap keu dirilis di koran2. Yg baru dirilis itu cuma kenaikan revenues yg naik lebih dari 90%. Target harga jangka pendek 6500, jangka menengah 8000.
 Danny Eugene danny.eugene@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Eyang  ANTM hari ini gimana ya  mohon petunjuk   __Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.com/  __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
 
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FW: [obrolan-bandar] COMPOSITE : Let's re-WELCOME The BULL

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik Aria Bela Nusa
Kalo dipelototin2, yg namanya gambar, ya mirip2 ‘aja - hanya bedanya di
garis  warna…

Btw sedikit lg mau break, nih sementara ini dari formation yg ada –
tinggal 1 (satu) tonggak lg (bukan tonggak2 daging, loh), tuh …

:) That factors (or variables) behind, drive market always change  vary –
that’s why market dynamic, moving-over so powerful then…There is no fixed
formulas !





 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM gimana ya hari ini

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik EKA SUWANDANA



Tahan aja. Jangan di short. Saya juga masih punya 10 lot di 5500. 20 Lot di 4500, 17 lot di 1330 he ...he( yg 1330 juga dulu beli di gebuk2 dulu sampe 900, sampe mau nangis).up_trends [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  gimana yg beli 5250 P Eka? boleh di short dulu?--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Investor Bonex investorbonex@... wrote: Pak EKA, Avrg P/E ANTM biasanya di sekitar berapa ya ?, jika net sekitar 30% dg
 P/E 12-an, maka TPnya bisa ke 7500.  Anyway, untuk FENI III, kabar terbaru gimana ya?, kapan kira2 realisticly bisa operate?.  Salam,  EKA SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED].. wrote: ANTM laba bersih bakal bertambah between 30-40%. Let's see. JUST HOLDkoreksi tambah saja. Regional jelek.  ALX alexmuhairuddin@... wrote:  Lapkeu ANTM baru akan dirilis 31 Agt 06  SalamOn 8/2/06, DAMERIAUS DAMERIAUS [EMAIL PROTECTED].. wrote: Eyang, kayaknya laporan keuangannya gak dirilis hari ini ya .. saya cek  di koran2 koq belum keluar yah ...  Gimana nih prediksi eyang mengenai ANTM selanjutnya ?  From: EKA SUWANDANA  [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Reply-To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM gimana ya hari ini Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:02:57 -0700 (PDT)ANTM bakal diangkat 2 AGUSTUS 2006 pas lap keu dirilis di koran2. Yg baru  dirilis itu cuma kenaikan revenues yg naik lebih dari 90%. Target harga  jangka pendek 6500, jangka menengah 8000.Danny Eugene danny.eugene@... wrote:  Eyang  ANTM hari ini gimana ya  mohon petunjuk__ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search!  http://search.msn.com/   
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] SPEEDY PAYAH! LELET kayak KEONG! TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik Hari Anggono



Di Malaysia, 24 jam 1 Mbps (max, tapi average paling di angka 200kbps), cuman RM 99 (250rb)/bulan
Udah gitu, daptar telpon, 24 jam kring - 2 hari sesudahnya internet dah connect.

Di Indonesia, kalo bisa dibikin susah n mahal, kenapa dibikin mudah dan murah? :)Mangkanya Telkom untung gede tapi gak invest di luar, mending di dalem negri aja.
Cinta Indonesia ajah katanya ...


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Tolong yah Telkom. Speedy di Bandung jam 1100 pagi-1200 siang, kecepatanya cuma 20 kbps. Trus sesudah jam 1530 juga cuma 11kbps.
Saya nggak butuh 380kbps..kalo bisa real sigitu bagus sih, tapi 90-100kbps saja seperti di Australia sudah cukup, di sana broadband operasi jam sibuk minimal 90kbps .
Mana bukti iklannya? Sudah mahal Payh!
 

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM gimana ya hari ini

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik up_trends
thx P, rada khawatir aja, keliatannya ada broker lokal yg punya 5-
7ribuan lot di cost 4500an, tp dia belon keluar.
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, EKA SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Tahan aja. Jangan di short. Saya juga masih punya 10 lot di 5500. 
20 Lot di 4500, 17 lot di 1330 he ...he( yg 1330 juga dulu beli 
di gebuk2 dulu sampe 900, sampe mau nangis).
 
 up_trends [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  gimana yg beli 5250 P 
Eka? boleh di short dulu?
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Investor Bonex 
 investorbonex@ wrote:
 
  Pak EKA, Avrg P/E ANTM biasanya di sekitar berapa ya ?, jika net 
 sekitar 30% dg P/E 12-an, maka TPnya bisa ke 7500.
  
  Anyway, untuk FENI III, kabar terbaru gimana ya?, kapan kira2 
 realisticly bisa operate?.
  
  Salam,
  
  EKA SUWANDANA esuwandan@ wrote:
  ANTM laba bersih bakal bertambah between 30-40%. Let's see. JUST 
 HOLDkoreksi tambah saja. Regional jelek.
  
  ALX alexmuhairuddin@ wrote: 
  Lapkeu ANTM baru akan dirilis 31 Agt 06
  
  Salam
  
  
  
  On 8/2/06, DAMERIAUS DAMERIAUS dameriaus@ 
 wrote: Eyang, kayaknya laporan keuangannya gak dirilis 
 hari ini ya .. saya cek 
  di koran2 koq belum keluar yah ...
  
  Gimana nih prediksi eyang mengenai ANTM selanjutnya ?
  
  From: EKA SUWANDANA  esuwandan@
  Reply-To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM gimana ya hari ini
  Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:02:57 -0700 (PDT)
  
  
  
  ANTM bakal diangkat 2 AGUSTUS 2006 pas lap keu dirilis di 
koran2. 
 Yg baru 
  dirilis itu cuma kenaikan revenues yg naik lebih dari 90%. 
Target 
 harga 
  jangka pendek 6500, jangka menengah 8000. 
  
  
  Danny Eugene danny.eugene@ wrote:
   Eyang  ANTM hari ini gimana ya  mohon petunjuk 
  
  
  
  
  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTM = sentimennya

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q
Sedikit info ANTM yang saya miliki buat yang lain:
1. Lap Keu 1H06 yang BAIK yang akan di release bulan ini.
kalau tidak salah rencananya tgl 30, tgl 31 juga akan ada investor 
forum dg ANTM.
2. Sebenarnya beberapa teman ngasih tahu kalau Holding pertambangan 
dengan ANTM dengan BUMN (pertambangan) lain sudah ditandatangani.
masalahnya sampai sekarang belum direlease.
Sebenarnya dua info itu saja sudah membuat saya OPTIMIS bahwa akhir 
bulan kemarin ANTM mampu kembali ke level 5000.
Apalagi kalau sudah direlease
TLKM saja ngamuknya bukan main.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, EKA SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Tahan aja. Jangan di short. Saya juga masih punya 10 lot di 5500. 
20 Lot di 4500, 17 lot di 1330 he ...he( yg 1330 juga dulu beli 
di gebuk2 dulu sampe 900, sampe mau nangis).
 
 up_trends [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  gimana yg beli 5250 P 
Eka? boleh di short dulu?
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Investor Bonex 
 investorbonex@ wrote:
 
  Pak EKA, Avrg P/E ANTM biasanya di sekitar berapa ya ?, jika net 
 sekitar 30% dg P/E 12-an, maka TPnya bisa ke 7500.
  
  Anyway, untuk FENI III, kabar terbaru gimana ya?, kapan kira2 
 realisticly bisa operate?.
  
  Salam,
  
  EKA SUWANDANA esuwandan@ wrote:
  ANTM laba bersih bakal bertambah between 30-40%. Let's see. JUST 
 HOLDkoreksi tambah saja. Regional jelek.
  
  ALX alexmuhairuddin@ wrote: 
  Lapkeu ANTM baru akan dirilis 31 Agt 06
  
  Salam
  
  
  
  On 8/2/06, DAMERIAUS DAMERIAUS dameriaus@ 
 wrote: Eyang, kayaknya laporan keuangannya gak dirilis 
 hari ini ya .. saya cek 
  di koran2 koq belum keluar yah ...
  
  Gimana nih prediksi eyang mengenai ANTM selanjutnya ?
  
  From: EKA SUWANDANA  esuwandan@
  Reply-To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM gimana ya hari ini
  Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:02:57 -0700 (PDT)
  
  
  
  ANTM bakal diangkat 2 AGUSTUS 2006 pas lap keu dirilis di 
koran2. 
 Yg baru 
  dirilis itu cuma kenaikan revenues yg naik lebih dari 90%. 
Target 
 harga 
  jangka pendek 6500, jangka menengah 8000. 
  
  
  Danny Eugene danny.eugene@ wrote:
   Eyang  ANTM hari ini gimana ya  mohon petunjuk 
  
  
  
  
  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] FULL HOUSE

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q
Mungkin ini salah satu kesempatan saya dalam menganalisa 
saham/indeks melalui ANALISA PERILAKU.

Kalau mau memperhatikan; dengan meminjam istilah Embah ketika Bozz 
melakukan Simulasi Bullish sering melakukan HATTRICK or TRIPLE.
Seiring juga dengan TREND es lilinnya (candlestick) Pak Vibby dalam 
kondisi bullish/bearish dikenal dengan THREE white soldiers/ black 
crows.

Di sisi lain kalau Bozz MENURUNKAN saham/ indeks sering saya lihat 
menggunakan DOUBLE. Contoh yang masih bisa diingat Double Pentung –
90 (walaupun hari kedua rebound).
Tapi di saham2 mainannya juga sering dilakukan.

Maksud saya walaupun secara TA (indicator) banyak yg menunjukkan 
overbought tapi saya prediksi besok terjadi THREE white soldiers. 
Mungkin terlalu mudah bagi penggemar es lilin, tidak apa2 yang jelas 
ini moment yang saya harapkan yaitu ADULT BULL yang sudah tumbuh 
dari little (+2)..teenage (+24)…jadi ADULT ..+60 dalam 3 hari.

Jadi Kartu di tangan Bozz saat ini adalah FULL HOUSE.
Ok Bozz…..tomorrow show your CARDS!?

Note : Bagaimanapun saya tetap mengakui masih harus banyak belajar 
membuat PREDIKSI kepada Mbah bahkan Suhu yang memprediksi indeks BEJ 
mampu menyentuh 1400 sekitar 48 hari yang lalu.

Come'on guys make your own prediction…
Always….Be OURSELF……. don't ever think be a SLAVE.







 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG Tampil Beda ditengah regional yang merah

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik Surata nyoman
chart is made based on  historical data...there has
never been any chart that will exactly  show where
things will go to...

Well said.

Tetapi  mengapa setelah membaca berbagai milis
ternyata banyak investor BEJ  berbangga hati wasting
ratusan USD untuk membeli charting software yang
dipromosikan dapat memprediksi pergerakan index
ataupun saham hingga akurasi 3 digit belakang koma ?

--- Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 tomorrow will be another story chart is made
 based on historical data...there has never been any
 chart that will exactly show where things will go
 to... 
   anyway, if one theory is broken, it will never
 become a valid one anymore... even if it is for one
 day...
   the moral of the event is...we can't just rely
 everything solely on one theory... 
   no hard feeling...
   cheers
   
 
 ratmanard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Will see tomorrow
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick
 Schubert 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  iya
  cuma buat matahin teori kalau ihsg ngekor dow
 jones...hehehehe
  
  Rony Santoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Asia/PacificLast TradeChangeRelated Info^AORDAll 
 OrdinariesAustralia4,953.900 2:17PM SGT 3.200
 (0.06%)Components, 
 More^SSECShanghai CompositeChina1,598.381 2:31PM SGT
 14.352 (0.89%)
 Components, More^HSIHang SengHong Kong16,946.32
 2:02PM SGT 25.02 
 (0.15%)Components, More^BSESNBSE 30India10,680.30
 3:02PM SGT 63.58 
 (0.59%) More^JKSEJakarta
 CompositeIndonesia1,362.1591 3:01PM SGT 
 10.51 (0.78%)Components, More^KLSEKLSE
 CompositeMalaysia936.35 
 3:02PM SGT 0.50 (0.05%)Components, More^N225Nikkei
 225Japan15,440.91 
 2:00PM SGT 15.90 (0.10%) More^NZ50NZX 50New
 Zealand3,578.129 1:32PM 
 SGT 2.436 (0.07%)Components, More^STIStraits
 TimesSingapore2,443.68 
 3:01PM SGT 1.75 (0.07%)Components, More^KS11Seoul
 CompositeSouth 
 Korea1,287.36 2:02PM SGT 10.46 (0.81%)Components,
 More^TWIITaiwan 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG Tampil Beda ditengah regional yang merah

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik ratmanard
TA/FA and Money and Risk Management only represent 30% of the tools  
that assist traders  in making their decision. The rest which 70% 
are all psychological dealing with fear and greed, 
patient,impatient, emotion and discipline as well. Some of trader 
make right decision less than 50%. Can you imagine if trader solely 
make their decision only base on TA/FA and Money and Risk 
Management? Maybe be most of them go bancrupt.
What does it mean? Giving judgment only from one point of view is 
not a wise behaviour. It would be very wise if we look at things 
from every angel in order to have more clear picture.

Let back to what Elder said: Use your Method,Money which represent 
30% only and YOUR MIND. You cannot leave one of all those three. You 
have to use it all in harmony.

For me? All important including Bandarmologi.





--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Surata nyoman 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 chart is made based on  historical data...there has
 never been any chart that will exactly  show where
 things will go to...
 
 Well said.
 
 Tetapi  mengapa setelah membaca berbagai milis
 ternyata banyak investor BEJ  berbangga hati wasting
 ratusan USD untuk membeli charting software yang
 dipromosikan dapat memprediksi pergerakan index
 ataupun saham hingga akurasi 3 digit belakang koma ?
 
 --- Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  tomorrow will be another story chart is made
  based on historical data...there has never been any
  chart that will exactly show where things will go
  to... 
anyway, if one theory is broken, it will never
  become a valid one anymore... even if it is for one
  day...
the moral of the event is...we can't just rely
  everything solely on one theory... 
no hard feeling...
cheers

  
  ratmanard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Will see tomorrow
  
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick
  Schubert 
  pemainbesar@ wrote:
  
   iya
   cuma buat matahin teori kalau ihsg ngekor dow
  jones...hehehehe
   
   Rony Santoso rony_xg@ wrote:
   Asia/PacificLast TradeChangeRelated Info^AORDAll 
  OrdinariesAustralia4,953.900 2:17PM SGT 3.200
  (0.06%)Components, 
  More^SSECShanghai CompositeChina1,598.381 2:31PM SGT
  14.352 (0.89%)
  Components, More^HSIHang SengHong Kong16,946.32
  2:02PM SGT 25.02 
  (0.15%)Components, More^BSESNBSE 30India10,680.30
  3:02PM SGT 63.58 
  (0.59%) More^JKSEJakarta
  CompositeIndonesia1,362.1591 3:01PM SGT 
  10.51 (0.78%)Components, More^KLSEKLSE
  CompositeMalaysia936.35 
  3:02PM SGT 0.50 (0.05%)Components, More^N225Nikkei
  225Japan15,440.91 
  2:00PM SGT 15.90 (0.10%) More^NZ50NZX 50New
  Zealand3,578.129 1:32PM 
  SGT 2.436 (0.07%)Components, More^STIStraits
  TimesSingapore2,443.68 
  3:01PM SGT 1.75 (0.07%)Components, More^KS11Seoul
  CompositeSouth 
  Korea1,287.36 2:02PM SGT 10.46 (0.81%)Components,
  More^TWIITaiwan 
  WeightedTaiwan6,441.46 1:46PM SGT 13.12
  (0.20%)Components, More 
   
   
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[obrolan-bandar] SPEEDY PAYAH! LELET kayak KEONG! TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik EKA SUWANDANA



Tolong yah Telkom. Speedy di Bandung jam 1100 pagi-1200 siang, kecepatanya cuma 20 kbps. Trus sesudah jam 1530 juga cuma 11kbps.  Saya nggak butuh 380kbps..kalo bisa real sigitu bagus sih, tapi 90-100kbps saja seperti di Australia sudah cukup, di sana broadband operasi jam sibuk minimal 90kbps .  Mana bukti iklannya? Sudah mahal Payh!
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[obrolan-bandar] A P O L ...

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik Aria Bela Nusa










Kelihatannya, APOL memang OK...



Untuk sementara ini, memang azas cabotage dalam jangka pendek mengakibatkan
persaingan yg ketat dalam jangka
pendek  tetapi berikutnya akan kembali normal  tetap menguntungkan bagi yg mempunyai muatan
kontrak  pelanggan utk mengangkut hasil mining (Batubara)



Dikutip dari Koran Investor hari ini :



Saham Arpeni Berpotensi ke Rp 1,800



Saham PT.Arpeni Pratama Ocean Line Tbk
(APOL) berpotensi menuju level Rp 1,800 dalam jangka pendek dan menengah. Hal ini dipicu rencana perseroan untuk
melakukan aksi korporasi pemecahan nilai nominal saham (stock split). Selain itu, perseroan mempunyai prospek
cukup bagus  sebab saat ini masih memiliki kontak dengan perusahaan-perusahaan
besar seperti PT.Adaro Indonesia, PT.Kideco Jaya dan PT.Tambang Batubara Bukit
Asam Tbk (PTBA)...




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Re: [obrolan-bandar] intermarket analysist

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik Alexander Ujung



Pak Frederick, as far as I know, even with Intermarket Analysis therebound to be some deviations, but *usually* not for long beforeit gets back to its track... We shall see what happens next.Alex.  pemainbesar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  the dow was down, but the jsx showed its resilient...SO.can we rely on the intermarket analysis? __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Liat bursa pake WAP

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik Odink
wap.rti.co.id
tapi sdh gak ada yg maintain lagi.. penjaga gawangnya sdh pindah kerja..  
hehee

On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 19:11:07 +0700, A3K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Tolong dong kasih alamat wap nya utk RTI ?
 Bisa tanpa subscribe gak ??
 Thanks



 
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[obrolan-bandar] BLTA Re: IHSG Tampil Beda ditengah regional yang merah

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik asokha99
Bukannya BLTA sekarang ada program Buyback lagi s/d 2750 dalam
setahun? Dalam tiga hari saja II sudah buyback 15 juta lembar.

Report dari ZP yang keluar kemarin, tanggal 31 Juli 2006, targetnya
sama tingginya, 2.750!!! Yang nulis Head researchnya lagi.

Ck..ck...ck



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 Setuju sekali dengan pendapat om ratman...
 
 TA/FA ngak boleh dianggap betul... Bisa berabe tuh...
 
 Masih ingat waktu main dengan TA di BLTA... dihajar habis sama
teknik buy back saham dia...
 
 yang namanya cup with handle bisa dihajar begitu saja... reverse hns
juga Penggunaan TA bisa dipakai kalau anda cuman seorang yang lihat TA
 





 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] BLTA Re: IHSG Tampil Beda ditengah regional yang merah

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik Bettina Tan



minta dong risetnya
On 8/2/06, asokha99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






Bukannya BLTA sekarang ada program Buyback lagi s/d 2750 dalamsetahun? Dalam tiga hari saja II sudah buyback 15 juta lembar.Report dari ZP yang keluar kemarin, tanggal 31 Juli 2006, targetnyasama tingginya, 
2.750!!! Yang nulis Head researchnya lagi.Ck..ck...ck--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Setuju sekali dengan pendapat om ratman...  TA/FA ngak boleh dianggap betul... Bisa berabe tuh...  Masih ingat waktu main dengan TA di BLTA... dihajar habis sama
teknik buy back saham dia...  yang namanya cup with handle bisa dihajar begitu saja... reverse hnsjuga Penggunaan TA bisa dipakai kalau anda cuman seorang yang lihat TA 
 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] SPEEDY PAYAH! LELET kayak KEONG! TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik Cubit Aja





Hehe di singapura yang 4 mbps cuma S$ 59 (Rp 
330.000) /bln. kecepatan tertinggi saat ini 30 mbps $ 122harganya 
miripindosat M2 yg 'katanya' 512 kbps Rp 550.000.


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Hari Anggono 
  
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 5:17 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] SPEEDY 
  PAYAH! LELET kayak KEONG! TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN
  
  
  
  Di Malaysia, 24 jam 1 Mbps (max, tapi average paling di angka 200kbps), 
  cuman RM 99 (250rb)/bulan
  Udah gitu, daptar telpon, 24 jam kring - 2 hari sesudahnya internet dah 
  connect.
  
  Di Indonesia, kalo bisa dibikin susah n mahal, kenapa dibikin mudah dan 
  murah? :)Mangkanya Telkom untung gede tapi gak invest di luar, mending di 
  dalem negri aja.
  Cinta Indonesia ajah katanya ...
  
  
  On 8/2/06, EKA 
  SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED]com 
  wrote: 
  






Tolong yah Telkom. Speedy di Bandung jam 1100 pagi-1200 siang, 
kecepatanya cuma 20 kbps. Trus sesudah jam 1530 juga cuma 11kbps.
Saya nggak butuh 380kbps..kalo bisa real sigitu bagus 
sih, tapi 90-100kbps saja seperti di Australia sudah cukup, di sana 
broadband operasi jam sibuk minimal 90kbps .
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG Tampil Beda ditengah regional yang merah

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik Frederick Schubert



why should we..then?  yang lebih penting adalah how would we get good information on what is going on and will happen in an individual company...  chart is a kind of important stuff and complimentary, but it couldnt be treated as god  cheers  Surata nyoman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  chart is made based on historical data...there hasnever been any chart that will exactly show wherethings will go to...Well said.Tetapi mengapa setelah
 membaca berbagai milisternyata banyak investor BEJ berbangga hati wastingratusan USD untuk membeli charting software yangdipromosikan dapat memprediksi pergerakan indexataupun saham hingga akurasi 3 digit belakang koma ?--- Frederick Schubert pemainbesar@yahoo.com wrote: tomorrow will be another story chart is made based on historical data...there has never been any chart that will exactly show where things will go to...  anyway, if one theory is broken, it will never become a valid one anymore... even if it is for one day... the moral of the event is...we can't just rely everything solely on one theory...  no hard feeling... cheers   ratmanard [EMAIL PROTECTED]id wrote: Will see tomorrow  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert  pemainbesar@... wrote:   iya  cuma buat matahin teori kalau ihsg ngekor dow jones...heheheheRony Santoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Asia/PacificLast TradeChangeRelated Info^AORDAll  OrdinariesAustralia4,953.900 2:17PM SGT 3.200 (0.06%)Components,  More^SSECShanghai CompositeChina1,598.381 2:31PM SGT 14.352 (0.89%) Components, More^HSIHang SengHong Kong16,946.32 2:02PM SGT 25.02  (0.15%)Components, More^BSESNBSE 30India10,680.30 3:02PM SGT 63.58  (0.59%) More^JKSEJakarta CompositeIndonesia1,362.1591 3:01PM SGT  10.51 (0.78%)Components, More^KLSEKLSE CompositeMalaysia936.35  3:02PM SGT 0.50 (0.05%)Components,
 More^N225Nikkei 225Japan15,440.91  2:00PM SGT 15.90 (0.10%) More^NZ50NZX 50New Zealand3,578.129 1:32PM  SGT 2.436 (0.07%)Components, More^STIStraits TimesSingapore2,443.68  3:01PM SGT 1.75 (0.07%)Components, More^KS11Seoul CompositeSouth  Korea1,287.36 2:02PM SGT 10.46 (0.81%)Components, More^TWIITaiwan  WeightedTaiwan6,441.46 1:46PM SGT 13.12 (0.20%)Components, More   Apa ini tanda2 alam?  -  Do you Yahoo!?  Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta.- Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG Tampil Beda ditengah regional yang merah

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik Soeratman Doerachman












Chart only picture which says thousands
words.

We do not have to write down dozens sentences
to tell somebody.

Draw him a chart and he will understand
what we want to tell











From: Frederick
Schubert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006
8:23 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re:
IHSG Tampil Beda ditengah regional yang merah













why should we..then?





yang lebih penting adalah how would we get good information on what is
going on and will happen in an individual company...





chart is a kind of important stuff and complimentary, but it couldnt be
treated as god





cheers







Surata nyoman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]com wrote:









chart is made based
on historical data...there has
never been any chart that will exactly show where
things will go to...

Well said.

Tetapi mengapa setelah membaca berbagai milis
ternyata banyak investor BEJ berbangga hati wasting
ratusan USD untuk membeli charting software yang
dipromosikan dapat memprediksi pergerakan index
ataupun saham hingga akurasi 3 digit belakang koma ?

--- Frederick Schubert pemainbesar@yahoo.com
wrote:

 tomorrow will be another story chart is made
 based on historical data...there has never been any
 chart that will exactly show where things will go
 to... 
 anyway, if one theory is broken, it will never
 become a valid one anymore... even if it is for one
 day...
 the moral of the event is...we can't just rely
 everything solely on one theory... 
 no hard feeling...
 cheers
 
 
 ratmanard [EMAIL PROTECTED]id
wrote:
 Will see tomorrow
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
  Frederick
 Schubert 
 pemainbesar@... wrote:
 
  iya
  cuma buat matahin teori kalau ihsg ngekor dow
 jones...hehehehe
  
  Rony Santoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Asia/PacificLast TradeChangeRelated Info^AORDAll 
 OrdinariesAustralia4,953.900 2:17PM SGT 3.200
 (0.06%)Components, 
 More^SSECShanghai CompositeChina1,598.381 2:31PM SGT
 14.352 (0.89%)
 Components, More^HSIHang SengHong Kong16,946.32
 2:02PM SGT 25.02 
 (0.15%)Components, More^BSESNBSE 30India10,680.30
 3:02PM SGT 63.58 
 (0.59%) More^JKSEJakarta
 CompositeIndonesia1,362.1591 3:01PM SGT 
 10.51 (0.78%)Components, More^KLSEKLSE
 CompositeMalaysia936.35 
 3:02PM SGT 0.50 (0.05%)Components, More^N225Nikkei
 225Japan15,440.91 
 2:00PM SGT 15.90 (0.10%) More^NZ50NZX 50New
 Zealand3,578.129 1:32PM 
 SGT 2.436 (0.07%)Components, More^STIStraits
 TimesSingapore2,443.68 
 3:01PM SGT 1.75 (0.07%)Components, More^KS11Seoul
 CompositeSouth 
 Korea1,287.36 2:02PM SGT 10.46 (0.81%)Components,
 More^TWIITaiwan 
 WeightedTaiwan6,441.46 1:46PM SGT 13.12
 (0.20%)Components, More 
  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] HATI HATI TLKM!

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik W. Ary Soemeri


menjelang pertemuan para pemegang saham nanti, coba di perhatikan lebih cermat keadaan fixed line business mereka, keadaan telkomflexi, keadaan bisnis data/internet, dan keadaan capital expenditure mereka  ekspektasi saya sinergi yang seharusnya ada di antara fixed line, telkomflexi, dan telkomsel akan terlihat rentan .. saham ini is priced for perfection, dan hampir semua players are on one side of the trade .. the long side ... and no one is expecting bad to happen to its fundamental .. hati hati ...

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[obrolan-bandar] Relevansi analisa Fundamental... IHSG Tampil Beda ditengah regional yang merah

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik jsx-consultant


Mr Schubert,
Tiap hari, tiap menit harga saham TURUN dan NAIK sedangkan informasi
tentang company RELATIF TIDAK BERUBAH..
Prospek Bank Danamon JANGKA PANJANG yang anda sebut bagus,
seharusnya HARI INI BAGUS, KEMARIN BAGUS dan BESOK BAGUS,
BAGUSnya bank Danamon adalah CONSTANT/TETAP dalam jangka
pendek kecuali ada berita BARU. Meskipun Fundamental bank Danamon
TIDAK BERUBAH harga saham BDMN akan berubah PAGI ini jika bursa
dibuka, bisa NAIK bisa TURUN.
- Jika pagi ini BDMN naik lagi, para analis FUNDUMBentalis akan bilang
 prospek jangka panjang BDMN memang bagus.
- Jika pagi ini BDMN turun, maka para DUMBER tsb akan bilang,
 laba BDMN turun 50% maka harganya turun.
- Jika TLKM pagi ini naik, para DUMBER tsb akan bilang laba TLKM
 naik 50%.
- Jika TLKM pagi ini turun, alasan Fundamental SELALU BISA DIBIKIN
 oleh para DUMBER CELEBRITIS:
 - contoh PERFORMANCE Quarter 2 2006 TLKM turun banyak
dibanding
 performance Q1 2006. Jadi penurunan ini wajar wajar
aja
Jadi RELEVANSI ANALISA FUNDAMENTAL seharusnya untuk JANGKA
PANJANG kecuali ada BERITA BARU. Tapi harus juga DIINGAT bahwa
BERITA LAMA bisa dijadikan BERITA BARU denga ditulis ulang dikoran
atau di milis. KENAPA BISA ?. Coba anda perhatikan IKLAN di TV yang
diulang ulang BERUNTUN untuk mempengaruhi para DUMBER CONSUMEN.
Begitu juga otak para TRADER/INVESTOR bisa di PROGRAM ULANG apalagi
kalo baca REKOMENDASI dari orang sekaliber Mr Schubert ,
pak Oentoeng, pak Eka dll SENIOR dimlis ini
Sedangkan untuk pergerakan harga saham harian orang berusaha
mencari JALAN LAIN, setiap orang punya Caranya masing masing
seperti INTERMARKET ANALYSIS, TA dan embah pake
Bandarmologi TENTUNYA ... hehehe.

Frederick Schubert wrote:
why should we..then?yang lebih penting
adalah how would we get good information on what is going on and will happen
in an individual company...chart is a kind of important stuff and complimentary,
but it couldnt be treated as godcheers
Surata nyoman [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>chart is made based on historical data...there has
never been any chart that >will exactly show where
things will go to...
Well said.
Tetapi mengapa setelah membaca berbagai milis
ternyata banyak investor BEJ berbangga hati wasting
ratusan USD untuk membeli charting software yang
dipromosikan dapat memprediksi pergerakan index
ataupun saham hingga akurasi 3 digit belakang koma ?
--- Frederick Schubert pemainbesar@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> tomorrow will be another story chart is made
> based on historical data...there has never been any
> chart that will exactly show where things will go
> to...
> anyway, if one theory is broken, it will never
> become a valid one anymore... even if it is for one
> day...
> the moral of the event is...we can't just rely
> everything solely on one theory...
> no hard feeling...
> cheers
>
>
> ratmanard [EMAIL PROTECTED]id>
wrote:
> Will see tomorrow
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
Frederick
> Schubert
> pemainbesar@...> wrote:
> >
> > iya
> > cuma buat matahin teori kalau ihsg ngekor dow
> jones...hehehehe
> >
> > Rony Santoso [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Asia/PacificLast TradeChangeRelated Info^AORDAll
> OrdinariesAustralia4,953.900 2:17PM SGT 3.200
> (0.06%)Components,
> More^SSECShanghai CompositeChina1,598.381 2:31PM SGT
> 14.352 (0.89%)
> Components, More^HSIHang SengHong Kong16,946.32
> 2:02PM SGT 25.02
> (0.15%)Components, More^BSESNBSE 30India10,680.30
> 3:02PM SGT 63.58
> (0.59%) More^JKSEJakarta
> CompositeIndonesia1,362.1591 3:01PM SGT
> 10.51 (0.78%)Components, More^KLSEKLSE
> CompositeMalaysia936.35
> 3:02PM SGT 0.50 (0.05%)Components, More^N225Nikkei
> 225Japan15,440.91
> 2:00PM SGT 15.90 (0.10%) More^NZ50NZX 50New
> Zealand3,578.129 1:32PM
> SGT 2.436 (0.07%)Components, More^STIStraits
> TimesSingapore2,443.68
> 3:01PM SGT 1.75 (0.07%)Components, More^KS11Seoul
> CompositeSouth
> Korea1,287.36 2:02PM SGT 10.46 (0.81%)Components,
> More^TWIITaiwan
> WeightedTaiwan6,441.46 1:46PM SGT 13.12
> (0.20%)Components, More
> >
> >
> > Apa ini tanda2 alam?
> >
> >
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> >
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] SPEEDY PAYAH! LELET kayak KEONG! TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik Anthony Christiaan





Rasanya bisnis Telkom itu terkait sama banyak pihak 
deh, Pak,
banyak oknum yang terkait sedemikian sehingga sulit 
dikembangkan,
harus ada gebrakan dari atas dahulu...


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Hari Anggono 
  
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 5:17 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] SPEEDY 
  PAYAH! LELET kayak KEONG! TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN
  
  
  
  Di Malaysia, 24 jam 1 Mbps (max, tapi average paling di angka 200kbps), 
  cuman RM 99 (250rb)/bulan
  Udah gitu, daptar telpon, 24 jam kring - 2 hari sesudahnya internet dah 
  connect.
  
  Di Indonesia, kalo bisa dibikin susah n mahal, kenapa dibikin mudah dan 
  murah? :)Mangkanya Telkom untung gede tapi gak invest di luar, mending di 
  dalem negri aja.
  Cinta Indonesia ajah katanya ...
  
  
  On 8/2/06, EKA 
  SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED]com 
  wrote: 
  






Tolong yah Telkom. Speedy di Bandung jam 1100 pagi-1200 siang, 
kecepatanya cuma 20 kbps. Trus sesudah jam 1530 juga cuma 11kbps.
Saya nggak butuh 380kbps..kalo bisa real sigitu bagus 
sih, tapi 90-100kbps saja seperti di Australia sudah cukup, di sana 
broadband operasi jam sibuk minimal 90kbps .
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Fund Managers = Skenario data

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik A3K














Makanya jangan terlalu sering nongkrong di
gallery,

Temanku pernah sehari bisa beli sampe 500
juta, dan besok nya Cuma kalah 2 point,

Tapi dalam artian rupiah ruginya udah 75
jutaan.  



Kalo di gallery itu emosi gak terkontrol ..
dan bisa2 pulang marah2

Mobil malah nyerempet kopaja.



Mending dirumah, dgn penuh perhitungan dan
kehati-hatian



A3k













From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ratmanard
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006
1:46 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Fund
Managers = Skenario data











Sekali-kali ngumpul dg para bandar Pak Oen enak juga
barangkali ya.
Pernah saya duduk didepan seorang bandar dengan enaknya dia 
mengguyur koleksi saya. Nasib kalau jadi pembeli eceran.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
oentoeng_q oentoeng_q@... 
wrote:

 hard thanx Eyang Ratmand atas koreksinya.
 itu bukti bukan tulisan expert.
 saya pemula yg setiap hari belajar dari bursa
 jika bapak ingin join minum kopi bareng Pak Frederick, moga2 saja 
 beliau yang nraktir. 
 Soalnya Mbah ama teman2 yg lain pasti ingin ikutan dan Pak 
Frederick 
 karena Pemain Besar pasti gelasnya juga besar.
 Hi3x..
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
ratmanard ratman@ 
 wrote:
 
  
  A litle bit corection Pak Oen, maybe you would say overbought 
  instead of ovesrold. Please correct me if I were wrong.
  I'd love to join both of you to have a cup of coffee if you all 
  allow me.
  I like to learn from expert
  Cheers
  
  
  
  
  
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
Frederick Schubert 
  pemainbesar@ wrote:
  
   you are still sharp pak oen.
   hope some day we can have a cup of coffee and diiscuss funny 
  things about jsx...
   
   oentoeng_q oentoeng_q@ wrote:
   sby = mud by lapindo brantas...no no no i don't like 
it
   Just my excuses Mr. Frederick...but i know main
index still 
  flying 
   high besides TA say oversold.
   now i say this month will reach 1400 but not this week...
   soam I cenayang???
   index will fall because you (big player) take vacation..or by 
   planned agenda?
   hehehe.
   
   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
Frederick Schubert 
   pemainbesar@ wrote:
   
dear pak oentoeng...
honestly(i suggest) not many people here like or
love 
   SBY.hehehehe
so, main index movement doesn't have any relations with HIM

at 
   any cost.
the main index rally mostly because of good charting and
the 
   fact that inflation has fallen faster than expected, paving up 
a 
  way 
   for an interest rate cut.. which is for some reasons is key 
for 
  econ 
   recovery...
malah...tanggal 15 or 16 aug and 22 aug...the main index 
will 
   fall

oentoeng_q oentoeng_q@ wrote:

 Kalau minggu depan saya menantikan akhir Prediksi Suhu
di 
 satu 
   sisi 
 ada upaya BOZZ untuk memoles BEJ buat
Pidato 
Kepresidenan. 
   Very 
 interesting.
 
Indeks BEJ 1378,.., +7,..
TA Trader say oversold...oh noreal bullish??
Fundamental Trader say. big price cut??
Just wanna say very very interesting..





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[obrolan-bandar] IHSG Mau tampil beda lagi???

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik Rony Santoso





Regional Ijo apakah 
IHSG mau tampil merah sendiri??? hehehe
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG Mau tampil beda lagi???

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik Frederick Schubert



could be...why notwe have been rising the main index by more than 7% from the previous seven sessionsprofit taking isn't a sin rite..?  heheheRony Santoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Regional Ijo apakah IHSG mau tampil merah sendiri??? hehehe   
	
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG Mau tampil beda lagi???

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik Frederick Schubert



could be...why notwe have been rising the main index by more than 7% from the previous seven sessionsprofit taking isn't a sin rite..?  heheheRony Santoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Regional Ijo apakah IHSG mau tampil merah sendiri??? hehehe   
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] SPEEDY PAYAH! LELET kayak KEONG! TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik A3K
















Wah aku baru pasang wireless di daerah
kebayoran,

Speed nya bisa ke 100 Mbps 
syuuurrr 



Utk Mbah, kemarin coba matrix dan fren, .
Utk matrix nya pake handset merk dan type apa ??

Boleh share dong  



A3K











From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of EKA SUWANDANA
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006
5:06 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com;
saham@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] SPEEDY
PAYAH! LELET kayak KEONG! TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN













Tolong yah Telkom. Speedy di Bandung jam 1100 pagi-1200 siang,
kecepatanya cuma 20 kbps. Trus sesudah jam 1530 juga cuma 11kbps.





Saya nggak butuh 380kbps..kalo bisa real
sigitu bagus sih, tapi 90-100kbps saja seperti di Australia sudah cukup, di sana
broadband operasi jam sibuk minimal 90kbps .





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[obrolan-bandar] RE: [jsx-pro] Apakah Investor Asing Sudah Mulai Masuk ke Bursa?

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik A3K














Dgn segala rasa hormat saya forward email
dari ahli TA sdr. Ik Nen Tjong, 

Sbg. Bahan pertimbangan para Bandar di
forum ini.

Semoga bermanfaat



A3K













From:
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Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006
7:31 PM
To: Milis JSX Pro; Milis Metastock
Subject: [jsx-pro] Apakah Investor
Asing Sudah Mulai Masuk ke Bursa?













Untuk pertama kalinya (sejak kejatuhan bursa pada bulan Mei lalu) pada
minggu lalu indeks Foreign Net ValueRatio (Moving Average 21 hari,
simple) telah menembus angka 0 dan berada padateritori positif.











Dengan menggandeng indikator Foreign Net ValueRatiodenganindikator
Foreign Net Value Cumulative, bolehlah kita berkesimpulan kalau investor asing
memang sudahkembali kebursa.











Ada
fenomena yang menarik selama tiga hari berturut-turut minggu ini, yaitu
investor asing membukukan net buy lebih kurang 710 milyar! Sebuah angka yang
luar biasa!











Dengan menganalisis keluar masuknya investor asing kita bisa membaca
arah bursa ke depan. Dan pengalaman saya, data tersebut sangat valid sebagai
dasar analisis. Begitu pun sangatlah penting untuk mengetahui keluar masuknya
investor asing untuk saham-saham tertentu. Selama tiga hari berturut-turut
minggu ini investor asing ternyata cukup selektif dalam membeli saham. Paling
besar masuk di TLKM, ASII, BMRI dan juga beberapa saham bank lainnya. Kenapa
TLKM, dan BMRI muncul sebagai top perform untuk 3 hari belakangan ini?











Berikut saya attach-kangrafik Foregin Net ValueCumuluative
dan Foregin Net Value Ratio sebagai bahanreferensi.











Salam,











Ik Nen


















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Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG Mau tampil beda lagi???

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik sutikno hartosuwito
urun rembug , apakah besok akan tampil beda lagi?
terus teman2 apa ada berita tentang KLBF? trim

--- Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 could be...why notwe have been rising the main
 index by more than 7% from the previous seven
 sessionsprofit taking isn't a sin rite..?
   hehehe 
 
 Rony Santoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Regional Ijo apakah IHSG mau tampil
 merah sendiri??? hehehe
   
 
  
 
 
   
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG Mau tampil beda lagi???

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik feter












Kayaknya sih pak, Indonesia perlu
tampil beda khan















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Regional Ijo apakah IHSG mau tampil merah sendiri??? hehehe








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RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG Mau tampil beda lagi???

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik Rony Santoso





betul2 beda 
hahaha


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Kayaknya sih pak, 
Indonesia perlu tampil beda khan






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beda lagi???





Regional Ijo apakah IHSG mau tampil 
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[obrolan-bandar] BOZZ, pls Be A man....

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik Investor Bonex



Almost always in critical session, the link to JSX become slow and sometimes hang-up. How could we fight in a fair game ???BOZZ, pls Be A man 
	
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[obrolan-bandar] [SoftCopy Buku] Murphy John J - Technical Analysis Of The Financial Markets

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik masih_belajar saham



Murphy John J - Technical Analysis Of The Financial Markets  Publisher: Prentice Hall Press; 2Rev Ed edition (January 4, 1999)  Language: English  ISBN: 0735200661This is an invaluable tool for traders/investors at all experience  levels. In John Murphy's latest book, Technical Analysis of the  Financial Markets, he takes the principles from his 1986 best-selling  book and expands it to cover all the financial markets. If you invest  in the stock market, this is an investment you cannot overlook.Learn the fundamentals of technical analysis and chart construction  Guides you from the basics of charting through the latest computer  technology Shows you 400 real-life charts that clarify every key point  Teaches you how to pull it all together and make it work for youCited in research studies by the Federal Reserve, John Murphy's  Technical Analysis of the Futures Markets, a comprehensive guide to the  concepts of technical
 analysis and their applications to the futures  markets, is widely considered the "bible" in its field. Now, in  response to widespread demand, John Murphy has completely updated and  revised this landmark volume, broadened its scope, and expanded it to  cover all financial markets.While it retains the clarity, simplicity, and logical structure that  made the earlier book so popular, Technical Analysis of the Financial  Markets thoroughly covers all the new techniques in charts and charting  and the many recent developments in this fast-changing area. Every  chapter has been updated. There is new emphasis on the stock market,  hundreds of up-to-date illustrations, and three completely new chapters  featuring extensive information on:Stock Market Indicators - advancing versus declining issues, hew highs  versus new lows, up volume versus down volume, and other tools to gauge  market breadth and provide early warning of potential trend changes. 
 Candlestick Charting - how to best use these fascinating, visually  appealing charts that deliver data with such impact it seems to  literally jump off the page or computer screen. Intermarket Analysis -  a much needed clear explanation of the vital interrelationships between  the various financial markets. In addition, the book provides extensive  new sections covering systems development, advanced technical  indicators, and such newer forms of charting as market profile.An invaluable tool for traders of all experience, Technical Analysis of  the Financial Markets guides you from the first application of Dow  Theory and the basics of charting through the latest computer  technology and most advanced analysis systems.Packed with some 400 real-life charts that clarify every key point, this authoritative, yet easy-to-follow guide covers:The fundamentals of technical analysis and chart construction What you  must know about trends and the
 building blocks of chart analysis  Various types of charting: point and figure, candlesticks, and more  Price patterns, including major reversal and continuation patterns  Long-term charts and the valuable perspective they provide Methods of  analysis - moving averages, oscillators, ontrary opinion, and others  Elliott Wave Theory and the anticipation of market turns Time cycles  Market interrelationships Money management and trading tactics Stock  market indicators How to pull it all together and make it work for you  Ralph Acampora, Managing Director, Prudential Securities, says: "One  way to get started in technical analysis is read a good book on the  subject. One of my favorites is Technical Analysis of the Financial  Markets by John Murphy. It's an easy read."Gail M. Dudack, Chief Investment Strategist, Warburg Dillon Read, says:  "No one in this generation had contributed more to technical analysis  than John Murphy. Through his series of books, he has
 opened the door  to many and raised the standard for all who use technical analysis. His  books should be required reading for everyone in the securities  business and are never more than a step away from my desk."Alan Shaw, Managing Director, Salomon Smith Barney, says: "John Murphy  appears to have done it again. . .only this time in a more contemporary  fashion. Technical Analysis of the Financial Markets is a must read for  the novice and professional and most important the Chartered Market  Technician (CMT) candidate. As a long-time point-and-figure devotee, I  was enthused to see the book's point-and-figure chapter not only cover  some of the more popular methods such as Chartcraft and Dorsey Wright,  but also explore the usefulness of the original point-and-figure  methodology which we practice here at Salomon Smith Barney."9 partshttp://rapidshare.de/files/27655495/Murphy_TA.zip 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: [Milis-AATI] Fwd: Liat bursa pake WAP

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik jsx-consultant
Embah juga pake FREN buat Etrading
FREN ini embah jadiin BACKUP kalo SPEEDY nya lagi NGADAT...

Cuman AKHIR AKHIR ini, FREN kalo buat liat bursa dari PDA untuk
liat WAP.OA.YAHOO.COM sering DIAM MELONGO, padahal
kalo liat WAP.ETRADING.CO.ID atau WAP.GOOGLE.COM normal.

Tapi kalo diganti ama MATRIX, buka WAP.OA.YAHOO.COM ampe
5 grafik saham INTRADAY (BEJ+WOLD) sekaligus NORMAL

Buat yang trader yg MOBILE, site WAP.OA.YAHOO.COM is
a GREAT SITE, pemakaian KILOBITE nya sangat IRIT 
Jadi mantau bursa di mobil, di tempat tidur atau sambil duduk
di toilet ASIIKKkkk bangethehehe


daniccf wrote:

 kebetulan saya pake Fren Pak..sejauh ini lumayan koneksi cepat dan
 stabil memakai data modem card...
 fyi aja untuk tariffing Fren mengeluarkan paket pascabayar yang
 jatuhnya bisa lebih murah...
 contohnya:
 paket yang kebetulan saya pakai kuota 200 mega price 150ribu rupiah.
 Dengan demikian 1 kb dihargai Rp. 0.75,-
 untuk kuota 500 mega ke atas malah tarif 1 kb dihargai kurang lebih
 Rp. 0.5,-
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of jsx_consultant
 Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 10:54 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Milis-AATI] Fwd: Liat bursa pake WAP
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sambil nonton si BOZZ SWEATING fighting in her LONG DAY,
 embah mau share pengalaman embah liat bursa pake WAP:

 - Embah coba FREN (CDMA) dan MATRIX (GSM) untuk meliat
 WAP WEB pake PDA misalnya wap.etrading.co.id, wap.google.com,
 wap.oa.yahoo.com dll.
 - Untuk meliat WAP WEB yang local seperti RTI, ETRADING dll
 kedua duanya FREN dan MATRIX bisa jalan normal.
 - Tapi kalo untuk lihat bursa di yahoo wap.oa.yahoo.com, maka
 FREN macet macet sedang MATRIX jalan normal meskipun
 sampe BUKA 5 WINDOWS seklaigus.
 - Tarip FREN Rp 5/kb sedang MATRIX Rp 15/kb. MATRIX lebih
 mahal tapi BENER BENER OKE 

 Mohon informasinya dari yang pake FLEXI, STARONE, dll

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Relevansi analisa Fundamental... IHSG Tampil Beda ditengah regional yang merah

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik EKA SUWANDANA



BEJ 300-an emiten, investor lokal 150.000 orang. Sisanya institusi seperti reksadana, dana pension, asuransi (asuransi dan dana pensiun juga cuma rata2 30% dari uang mereka yg di saham), dan asing , (mutual fund, dan hedge fund).  So yg gede2 ini yg gambar grafik. Tentang analis pasar modal, saya punya cerita. Saya kenal seorang analis, pernah satu sekolah di Australia, dia ambil MBAcuma udah di DO di Aussie, karena kaya, dia sogok assoc.dean-nya 5 AUD (percaya nggak percaya di tempat saya sekolah dulu ada dean yg begini, tapi dean ini sudah dipecat tahun 2000).   Temen2 satu sekolah maaf nih, bukannya ngejelek2kin almamater.   Saya nggak sebut nama2nya, tapi setahu saya walaupun sudah D.O , dia bisa kerja di sekuritas lokal besar, dgn ijazah aspal (lulusan 98 di ijasahnya sih), academic transcript aspal, dsb. Saya lihat kerjaannya cuma nyontek analis lain.dan dia pernah goreng saham
 MDLN , tapi akhirinya nyangkut banyak..loss big then get fired. Bayangkan kalo ada 5 orang saja analis macam gini yg dipercaya? huh apa jadinya.TTG analis asing, Saya pernah baca buku ...lupa judulnyattg expatriate yg kerja di jakarta. Ini cerita sebelum krisis. Ada seorang Dirut sekuritas lokal besar milik konglomerat kita, Si dirut orang jawa, yg coba merekrut analis bule orang amrik, fresh graduate. Si dirut ini juga lulusan luar, cuma karena si konglomerat suka sama overseas graduates/foreigner, di kantornyapegawai asing slalu mendominasi, so si big bozz slalu menekan ke si dirut tolong cariin orang asing. So dia cari fresh graduate asing sedapatnya. Menurut komentar si Dirut yg orangjawa ini, kebanyakan analis asing di Indonesia adalah Fresh graduate yg mencoba cari gaji lebih besardaripada kerjadi negri asalnya, dan kebanyakan otaknya pas2an, lulusan dariuniversity biasa2 saja,but work in
 Jakarta can catapult their career.Disini bisa jadi luar biasa soalnya yg mempekerjakan nggak ngerti apa2. Lucunya pada awalnya si analis asing, selama 3 bulan masih di ajarin sama direktur2 lokal, tapi si dirut berkeyakinan "saya harus bisa ngelatih si bule ini ngitung fair value emiten lokal, soalnya gw mau bikin seneng bos". Tapi sesudah 98, si konglomerat rugi besar, dia mulai pecat bule2nya, sampai sekarang dia nggak mau percaya sama analis bule.jadi memang sesudah 98, yg maen di Jakarta kebanyakan bermental bandar. Sediakan/sisakan selalu cash utk portofolio karena setiap tahun pasti ada koreksi besar2an tanpa ada berita negatif. Kalo sudah ada turungede2an baru tanem semua duit kita.Ntar saya kasih tahu bukunya apa itu buku milik bokapttg kelakuan expatriate di negaraasia ( manila, bangkok, tokyo, dan jakarta). Cuma ada sekelumit cerita ttg analis
 BEJ.Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Mr. Embah (hehehe)  thanks much...  the moral of the story is that i only warned of my friends here not to solelydepend on the intermarket analysissumtime, jex is very veryweird..it can go up whenever all regional markets fall, or on the other way around...  bandarmologihehefine with that although i don't like bookiesi always attack them withmy own ways  great
 one...  thanks...  jsx-consultant jsx-consultant@centrin.net.id wrote:  Mr Schubert,Tiap hari, tiap menit harga saham TURUN dan NAIK sedangkan informasitentang company RELATIF TIDAK BERUBAH..Prospek Bank Danamon JANGKA PANJANG yang anda sebut bagus,seharusnya HARI INI BAGUS, KEMARIN BAGUS dan BESOK BAGUS,BAGUSnya bank Danamon adalah CONSTANT/TETAP dalam jangkapendek kecuali ada berita BARU. Meskipun Fundamental bank DanamonTIDAK BERUBAH harga saham BDMN akan berubah PAGI ini jika bursadibuka, bisa NAIK bisa TURUN.- Jika pagi ini BDMN naik lagi, para analis FUNDUMBentalis akan bilangprospek jangka panjang BDMN memang bagus.- Jika pagi ini BDMN turun, maka para DUMBER tsb akan bilang,laba BDMN turun 50% maka harganya turun.- Jika TLKM pagi ini naik, para DUMBER tsb
 akan bilang laba TLKMnaik 50%.- Jika TLKM pagi ini turun, alasan Fundamental SELALU BISA DIBIKINoleh para DUMBER CELEBRITIS:- contoh PERFORMANCE Quarter 2 2006 TLKM turun banyak dibandingperformance Q1 2006. Jadi penurunan ini wajar wajar ajaJadi RELEVANSI ANALISA FUNDAMENTAL seharusnya untuk JANGKAPANJANG kecuali ada BERITA BARU. Tapi harus juga DIINGAT bahwaBERITA LAMA bisa dijadikan BERITA BARU denga ditulis ulang dikoranatau di milis. KENAPA BISA ?. Coba anda perhatikan IKLAN di TV yangdiulang ulang BERUNTUN untuk mempengaruhi para DUMBER CONSUMEN.Begitu juga otak para TRADER/INVESTOR bisa di PROGRAM ULANG apalagikalo baca REKOMENDASI dari orang sekaliber Mr Schubert ,pak Oentoeng, pak Eka dll SENIOR dimlis iniSedangkan untuk pergerakan harga saham harian orang berusahamencari JALAN LAIN, setiap orang punya Caranya masing masingseperti INTERMARKET ANALYSIS, TA dan embah pakeBandarmologi
 TENTUNYA ... hehehe.Frederick Schubert wrote: why should we..then?yang lebih penting adalah how would we get good information on what is going 

[obrolan-bandar] Re: [jsx-pro] Apakah Investor Asing Sudah Mulai Masuk ke Bursa?

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik Siswa Rizali
jadi bingung.
krn ada juga yg bilang: asing nggak pernah keluar.

yg terjadi, trader mau bagi2 rezeki.
krn udah nyentuh titk rendah (bdmn 3900, asii 9100, bmri 1600-an) 
skrg ya tinggal biarkan trader naikin ke top-nya.

asing mah tambah posisi waktu titik rendah tercapai.

terimakasih buat trader yg baik hati.


salam,
rz


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 Dgn segala rasa hormat saya forward email dari ahli TA sdr. Ik Nen 
Tjong, 
 
 Sbg. Bahan pertimbangan para Bandar di forum ini.
 
 Semoga bermanfaat
 
  
 
 A3K
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 From: jsx-pro@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of
 Ik Nen
 Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 7:31 PM
 To: Milis JSX Pro; Milis Metastock
 Subject: [jsx-pro] Apakah Investor Asing Sudah Mulai Masuk ke Bursa?
 
  
 
 Untuk pertama kalinya (sejak kejatuhan bursa pada bulan Mei lalu) 
pada
 minggu lalu indeks Foreign Net Value Ratio (Moving Average 21 hari, 
simple)
 telah menembus angka 0 dan berada pada teritori positif.
 
 Dengan menggandeng indikator Foreign Net Value Ratio dengan  
indikator
 Foreign Net Value Cumulative, bolehlah kita berkesimpulan kalau 
investor
 asing memang sudah kembali ke bursa.
 
  
 
 Ada fenomena yang menarik selama tiga hari berturut-turut minggu 
ini, yaitu
 investor asing membukukan net buy lebih kurang 710 milyar! Sebuah 
angka yang
 luar biasa!
 
  
 
 Dengan menganalisis keluar masuknya investor asing kita bisa 
membaca arah
 bursa ke depan. Dan pengalaman saya, data tersebut sangat valid 
sebagai
 dasar analisis. Begitu pun sangatlah penting untuk mengetahui keluar
 masuknya investor asing untuk saham-saham tertentu. Selama tiga hari
 berturut-turut minggu ini investor asing ternyata cukup selektif 
dalam
 membeli saham. Paling besar masuk di TLKM, ASII, BMRI dan juga 
beberapa
 saham bank lainnya. Kenapa TLKM, dan BMRI muncul sebagai top 
perform untuk 3
 hari belakangan ini?
 
  
 
 Berikut saya attach-kan grafik Foregin Net Value Cumuluative dan 
Foregin Net
 Value Ratio sebagai bahan referensi.
 
  
 
 Salam,
 
  
 
 Ik Nen







 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] SPEEDY PAYAH! LELET kayak KEONG! TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik EKA SUWANDANA



Saya juga di Ruko doank pasang Telkom fixed dan Speedy. Di rumah di KOTA BARU PARAHYANGAN, Padalarang, saya nggak pasang sambungan Telkom fixed, saya pake Esia Pasca bayar saja, dan beli alat dari quatsar utk bisa terima fax.  Soalnya sewaktu dipasang line sering rusak sampai berminggu2. Sampe kesel.Di rumah orang tua , kalo ada petir/hujan, kabel harus dicabut dari fax machine, soalnya, sudah sering kejadian fax rusak kena petir. Kata orang TLKMnya sendiri ground di daerah Cibogo - Terusan Pasteur, jelek.Anthony Christiaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Rasanya bisnis Telkom itu terkait sama banyak pihak deh, Pak,  banyak oknum yang terkait sedemikian sehingga sulit dikembangkan,  harus ada gebrakan dari atas dahulu...  - Original Message -   From: Hari Anggono   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com   Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 5:17 PM  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] SPEEDY PAYAH! LELET kayak KEONG! TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERNDi Malaysia, 24 jam 1 Mbps (max, tapi average paling di angka 200kbps), cuman RM 99 (250rb)/bulan  Udah gitu, daptar telpon, 24 jam kring - 2 hari sesudahnya internet dah connect.Di Indonesia, kalo bisa dibikin susah n mahal, kenapa dibikin mudah dan murah? :)Mangkanya Telkom untung gede tapi gak invest di luar, mending di dalem negri aja.  Cinta Indonesia ajah katanya ...  On 8/2/06, EKA SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED]com wrote: Tolong yah Telkom. Speedy di
 Bandung jam 1100 pagi-1200 siang, kecepatanya cuma 20 kbps. Trus sesudah jam 1530 juga cuma 11kbps.  Saya nggak butuh 380kbps..kalo bisa real sigitu bagus sih, tapi 90-100kbps saja seperti di Australia sudah cukup, di sana broadband operasi jam sibuk minimal 90kbps .  Mana bukti iklannya? Sudah mahal Payh!
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] A P O L ...

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik EKA SUWANDANA



Arpeni mah tahun depan bakal diatas 2000, coba saja lihat.Aria Bela Nusa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Kelihatannya, APOL memang OK...Untuk sementara ini, memang azas cabotage dalam jangka pendek mengakibatkan persaingan yg ketat dalam jangka pendek – tetapi berikutnya akan kembali normal  tetap menguntungkan bagi yg mempunyai muatan kontrak  pelanggan utk mengangkut hasil mining (Batubara)…Dikutip dari Koran Investor hari ini : 
   Saham Arpeni Berpotensi ke Rp 1,800Saham PT.Arpeni Pratama Ocean Line Tbk (APOL) berpotensi menuju level Rp 1,800 dalam jangka pendek dan menengah. Hal ini dipicu rencana perseroan untuk melakukan aksi korporasi pemecahan nilai nominal saham (stock split). Selain itu, perseroan mempunyai
 prospek cukup bagus – sebab saat ini masih memiliki kontak dengan perusahaan-perusahaan besar seperti PT.Adaro Indonesia, PT.Kideco Jaya dan PT.Tambang Batubara Bukit Asam Tbk (PTBA)...  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG Mau tampil beda lagi???

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik Cubit Aja





Sesi 1, jawabannya "KENAPA TIDAK?"
hehehe


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  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG Mau tampil 
  beda lagi???
  
  
  
  Regional Ijo 
  apakah IHSG mau tampil merah sendiri??? hehehe
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG Mau tampil beda lagi???

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik Tekaer



Sesi 2 : Akan sama, semoga, Kenapa Tidak?
On 8/3/06, Cubit Aja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Sesi 1, jawabannya KENAPA TIDAK?
hehehe



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Regional Ijo apakah IHSG mau tampil merah sendiri??? hehehe




 


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RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG Mau tampil beda lagi???

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik Soeratman Doerachman












Follow the trend? It is valid only for
investor. For trader its time to sell (SOS). Be contrarian (yg pake
perhitungan). Still rally afterwards? Buy again also is not a sin.

Sayang aku agak ejakulasi dini kemarin
(sorry utk istilahnya). No problem hanya genius pro yg bisa jual di
market top atau beli di market bottom why I am stilla beginner
Rookie













From: Frederick
Schubert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006
9:44 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG
Mau tampil beda lagi???













could be...why notwe have been rising the main index by more than
7% from the previous seven sessionsprofit taking isn't a sin rite..?





hehehe

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Regional Ijo apakah IHSG mau tampil merah sendiri??? hehehe













 







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Re: [obrolan-bandar] A P O L ...

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik Frederick Schubert



that was "news" or "story" based on order...berita pesanan bou...  pada debt to equity ratio of more than 2 timesagak sulit buat apol untuk grow and stand behind its peers...  just sharing...  EKA SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Arpeni mah tahun depan bakal diatas 2000, coba saja lihat.Aria Bela Nusa aria.belanusa@bni.co.id wrote: 
  Kelihatannya, APOL memang OK...Untuk sementara ini, memang azas cabotage dalam jangka pendek mengakibatkan persaingan yg ketat dalam jangka pendek – tetapi berikutnya akan kembali normal  tetap menguntungkan bagi yg mempunyai muatan kontrak  pelanggan utk mengangkut hasil mining (Batubara)…Dikutip dari Koran Investor hari ini :Saham Arpeni Berpotensi ke Rp 1,800Saham PT.Arpeni Pratama Ocean Line Tbk (APOL) berpotensi menuju level Rp 1,800 dalam jangka pendek dan menengah. Hal ini dipicu rencana perseroan untuk melakukan aksi korporasi pemecahan nilai nominal saham (stock split). Selain itu, perseroan mempunyai prospek cukup bagus – sebab saat ini masih memiliki kontak dengan perusahaan-perusahaan besar seperti PT.Adaro Indonesia, PT.Kideco Jaya dan PT.Tambang Batubara Bukit Asam Tbk (PTBA)... 
	
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] A P O L ...

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik Didi Agus Santoso


Salam pak,
Ada yang bilang kalo mau menang disuruh duduk ngopi dengan Mr. Frederick, 
hari ini yang baik apa pak?

- Original Message From: Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSent: Thursday, August 3, 2006 11:28:14 AMSubject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] A P O L ...


that was "news" or "story" based on order...berita pesanan bou...
pada debt to equity ratio of more than 2 timesagak sulit buat apol untuk grow and stand behind its peers...
just sharing...
EKA SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:


Arpeni mah tahun depan bakal diatas 2000, coba saja lihat.Aria Bela Nusa aria.belanusa@ bni.co.id wrote: 




Kelihatannya, APOL memang OK...

Untuk sementara ini, memang azas cabotage dalam jangka pendek mengakibatkan persaingan yg ketat dalam jangka pendek tetapi berikutnya akan kembali normal  tetap menguntungkan bagi yg mempunyai muatan kontrak  pelanggan utk mengangkut hasil mining (Batubara)…

Dikutip dari Koran Investor hari ini :

Saham Arpeni Berpotensi ke Rp 1,800

Saham PT.Arpeni Pratama Ocean Line Tbk (APOL) berpotensi menuju level Rp 1,800 dalam jangka pendek dan menengah. Hal ini dipicu rencana perseroan untuk melakukan aksi korporasi pemecahan nilai nominal saham (stock split). Selain itu, perseroan mempunyai prospek cukup bagus sebab saat ini masih memiliki kontak dengan perusahaan-perusaha an besar seperti PT.Adaro Indonesia, PT.Kideco Jaya dan PT.Tambang Batubara Bukit Asam Tbk (PTBA)...




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Re: [obrolan-bandar] SPEEDY PAYAH! LELET kayak KEONG! TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik Anthony Christiaan





Itu maksudnya :ke ISP nya pakai wireless point 
to point 128kbps,
ke Client nya pakai Ethernet Cable RJ-45 bisa 
100mbps,
munculnya di komputer client, speed 
100mbps,
padahal cuman 128kbps, itu aja dishare oleh ISP nya 
bisa 1:8 atau 1:4
dan di share lagi di kantornya buat berapa 
usernya.

Cheers



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Cubit 
  Aja 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 10:59 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] SPEEDY 
  PAYAH! LELET kayak KEONG! TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN
  
  
  
  Wah wirelessnya bisa sampe 100 mbps? gak salah 
  tuh? wi fi tercepat saat ini hanya sampai 54 mbps. ispnya yg mana 
  pak?
  
  
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From: A3K 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
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Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 8:40 
AM
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] SPEEDY 
PAYAH! LELET kayak KEONG! TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN






Wah aku baru pasang 
wireless di daerah kebayoran,
Speed nya bisa ke 
100 Mbps …… syuuurrr 

Utk Mbah, kemarin 
coba matrix dan fren, …. Utk matrix nya pake handset merk dan type apa 
??
Boleh share dong …… 


A3K





From: 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of EKA SUWANDANASent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 5:06 
PMTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]comSubject: [obrolan-bandar] SPEEDY PAYAH! 
LELET kayak KEONG! TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN





Tolong yah Telkom. Speedy di Bandung jam 1100 
pagi-1200 siang, kecepatanya cuma 20 kbps. Trus sesudah jam 1530 juga cuma 
11kbps.

Saya nggak butuh 380kbps..kalo bisa real 
sigitu bagus sih, tapi 90-100kbps saja seperti di Australia sudah cukup, di 
sana broadband operasi jam sibuk minimal 90kbps 
.

Mana bukti iklannya? Sudah mahal 
Payh!

  
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] A P O L ...

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik feter












Yg bener pak.?









From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of EKA SUWANDANA
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006
11:02 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] A P
O L ...











Arpeni
mah tahun depan bakal diatas 2000, coba saja lihat.

Aria Bela Nusa
aria.belanusa@bni.co.id wrote: 











Kelihatannya, APOL memang OK...





Untuk sementara ini, memang azas cabotage dalam
jangka pendek mengakibatkan persaingan yg ketat dalam
jangka pendek  tetapi berikutnya akan kembali no rmal  tetap menguntungkan bagi yg mempunyai
muatan kontrak  pelanggan utk mengangkut
hasil mining
(Batubara)





Dikutip dari Koran Investor hari ini :



Saham Arpeni
Berpotensi ke Rp 1,800



Saham PT.Arpeni Pratama Ocean Line Tbk (APOL)
berpotensi menuju level Rp 1,800 dalam jangka pendek dan menengah. Hal
ini dipicu rencana perseroan untuk melakukan aksi korporasi pemecahan nilai
nominal saham (stock split).
Selain i tu, perseroan mempunyai prospek cukup bagus  sebab saat ini
masih memiliki kontak dengan perusahaan-perusahaan besar seperti PT.Adaro
Indonesia, PT.Kideco Jaya dan PT.Tambang Batubara Bukit Asam Tbk (PTBA)...




















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Re: [obrolan-bandar] A P O L ...

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik Frederick Schubert



hmmm...flaterredbut poisoning...  ada dua saham smal cap yang lucu and have potential to play in mid (3-6months) to long (12 months) terms... ane bicarayang small dulu yaaa  1.SPMA: because revenue, gross profit, and assets have increased steadily since 2002... outlook is sound... target price or fair value at IDR400. now trading at only 0.4 times prospective 2006 pbv...2. TBLA. It looks better in the management side and NOW has a vision to grow due its indigenous plantation and agri business. In YEARS to come, TBLA may become as heavy as LSIP or AALImid term target at IDR240disclaimer yaDidi Agus Santoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Salam pak,  Ada yang bilang kalo mau menang disuruh duduk ngopi dengan Mr. Frederick,   hari ini yang baik apa pak?- Original Message From: Frederick Schubert pemainbesar@yahoo.comTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSent: Thursday, August 3, 2006 11:28:14 AMSubject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] A P O L ...  that was "news" or "story" based on order...berita pesanan bou...  pada debt to equity ratio of more than 2 timesagak sulit buat apol untuk grow and stand behind its peers...  just sharing...  EKA SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:  Arpeni mah tahun depan bakal diatas 2000, coba saja lihat.Aria Bela Nusa aria.belanusa@ bni.co.id wrote:   Kelihatannya, APOL memang OK...Untuk sementara ini, memang azas cabotage dalam jangka pendek mengakibatkan persaingan yg ketat dalam jangka pendek tetapi berikutnya akan kembali normal  tetap menguntungkan bagi yg mempunyai muatan kontrak  pelanggan utk mengangkut hasil mining (Batubara)…Dikutip dari Koran Investor hari ini :Saham Arpeni Berpotensi ke Rp 1,800Saham PT.Arpeni Pratama Ocean Line Tbk (APOL) berpotensi menuju level Rp
 1,800 dalam jangka pendek dan menengah. Hal ini dipicu rencana perseroan untuk melakukan aksi korporasi pemecahan nilai nominal saham (stock split). Selain itu, perseroan mempunyai prospek cukup bagus sebab saat ini masih memiliki kontak dengan perusahaan-perusaha an besar seperti PT.Adaro Indonesia, PT.Kideco Jaya dan PT.Tambang Batubara Bukit Asam Tbk (PTBA)...  See the all-new, redesigned Yahoo.com. Check it out.
	
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] SPEEDY PAYAH! LELET kayak KEONG! TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN

2006-08-02 Terurut Topik Hari Anggono




Untuk komunikasi, sebagai pengguna nih ... bukan pemegang saham, Fren is the best!!
Tarif telp ke sesama Fren cuman Rp 14/menit, jangkauan seluruh Jawa sangat2 bagus.
**bandingkan dengan Mentari/XL yg gopek semenit, apalagi dgn Telkomsel yg msh di atas seceng**
Saya jalan2 pake kreta maupun mobil dariBanyuwangi sampe Bdg, di semua kota kecil sinyal ok.

Internet lancar dan cukup murah, walopun gak gede2 amat tapi lumayan stabil.
Administrasi waktu pendaptaran n pemutusan ok punya ..
**bandingkan dengan Indosat yg masih sering nagih walo dah diputus**

Salam,

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