RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: market strikes back on shanghai noon

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik Sunowo Dwijanarko
Jacky Chen emang paling jago loncat yah...

What a happy day today untuk yang out last Fri


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[obrolan-bandar] Re: market strikes back on shanghai noon

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik dfaj21
ADA yang JAGO dengan INTERMARKET - ANALYSYS
GLOBAL market DOWN DJIA overcast bin mendung oleh GREENSPAN's R
word - bisa jadi ribbon

Phillipines niru Shanghai, KLSE 2 hari berturut UDAH turun 3%
INDONESIA perkasa karena si PITUNG gerilya

Bisakah si PITUNG jadi BUNGKARNOHATTA dan memerdekakan JKSE dari
rayuan-rayuan other regional bargain

ADA yang sudah BELAJAR INTERMARKET ANALYSYShh  atau perlu
TT?



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[obrolan-bandar] JCI naik dari 50% retracement level di 1710

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik Marjan Syah

Hari ini JCI turning dari lowest level dengan support kuat terlihat di 50%
retracement level di 1700. Sempat turun sekitar 5 % dan sekarang tinggal -
1.8%. Sudah naik sekitar 3 % dari lowest hari ini. Shanghai naik 3.94% pada
penutupan hari ini dan bursa asia lainnya menunjukkan trend yang meningkat
di akhir perdagangan hari ini. Bagaimana besok menurut perkiraan para suhu?


Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: market strikes back on shanghai noon

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik hst auto

Tsunami kedua sebelum rebound dimulai lagi...15:10


On 2/28/07, Sunowo Dwijanarko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Jacky Chen emang paling jago loncat yah...

What a happy day today untuk yang out last Fri

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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: market strikes back on shanghai noon

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik Sunowo Dwijanarko
Ini kayaknya mirip kejadian waktu SET thailand turun 7%-an tapi exposure-nya 
lebih gede karena much bigger cap


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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:07:37 -

ADA yang JAGO dengan INTERMARKET - ANALYSYS
GLOBAL market DOWN DJIA overcast bin mendung oleh GREENSPAN's R
word - bisa jadi ribbon

Phillipines niru Shanghai, KLSE 2 hari berturut UDAH turun 3%
INDONESIA perkasa karena si PITUNG gerilya

Bisakah si PITUNG jadi BUNGKARNOHATTA dan memerdekakan JKSE dari
rayuan-rayuan other regional bargain

ADA yang sudah BELAJAR INTERMARKET ANALYSYShh  atau perlu
TT?



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  What a happy day today untuk yang out last Fri
 
 
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  Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 07:17:35 -
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] JCI naik dari 50% retracement level di 1710

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik James Arifin

Kalau ingat bulan Mei 2005, bisa jadi bull trap

On 2/28/07, Marjan Syah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Hari ini JCI turning dari lowest level dengan support kuat terlihat di
50% retracement level di 1700. Sempat turun sekitar 5 % dan sekarang tinggal
-1.8%. Sudah naik sekitar 3 % dari lowest hari ini. Shanghai naik 3.94%pada 
penutupan hari ini dan bursa asia lainnya menunjukkan trend yang
meningkat di akhir perdagangan hari ini. Bagaimana besok menurut perkiraan
para suhu?




Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: market strikes back on shanghai noon

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik Odink
tunggu aja level 1724 seberapa kuat akan ditahan.. liat closing aja

On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:36:09 +0700, edy1276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bozz..
 Ini Healty/temporary correction or TRUE BEARISH signal?
 Mohon pencerahan atau bisik-bisik dari Tetangga...
 TRIMS BANGET


 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: market strikes back on shanghai noon

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik James Arifin

Mungkin bisa coba2 short setelah pullback sekarang karena market masih belum
cukup kuat

On 2/28/07, Odink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


tunggu aja level 1724 seberapa kuat akan ditahan.. liat closing aja

On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:36:09 +0700, edy1276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bozz..
 Ini Healty/temporary correction or TRUE BEARISH signal?
 Mohon pencerahan atau bisik-bisik dari Tetangga...
 TRIMS BANGET



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: market strikes back ???

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik hilman anugraha
Saya nggak jago cuman mau coba mananalisis kalo bole...
   
  Uang yang dipake untuk rebound hari ini di cina adalah uang smart yang 
dikelola oleh orang-org yang mempunyai akses informasi super hghway dan excess 
cash.
  Seperti yang mbah bilang, momen ini akan dipake untuk memutar-mutar 
portofolio untuk design kedepan, meng cut loss, dan membaca situasi masa depan 
dari sideways.
   
  Ada porsi besar dari uang yang dikelola dari information laggard yang baru 
tahu kalo market terkoreksi.  laggard ini ini bisa karena size atau system. 
Contohnya org yang punya fund milyaran di berbagai fund houses. Sulit untuk 
switch atau redeem.  Ibarat org kaget.. gemeterannya masih kerasa. Dan yang 
kaget itu hampir seluruh market.. including the mighty Uncle Sam.
   
  The laggard+org org yg gemertaran and the smart money (crafted future by 
bandar) akan baku hantam dalam beberapa hari ini.
   
  Karena luasnya impact dan banyaknya org dari golongan yang pertama.. market 
akan kembali merah besok sebelum hijau pelan pelan dalam beberapa minggu.  
   
  Itu kalo benerrr.. kalo salah mohon diajari.
   
  

dfaj21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  ADA yang JAGO dengan INTERMARKET - ANALYSYS
GLOBAL market DOWN DJIA overcast bin mendung oleh GREENSPAN's R
word - bisa jadi ribbon

Phillipines niru Shanghai, KLSE 2 hari berturut UDAH turun 3%
INDONESIA perkasa karena si PITUNG gerilya

Bisakah si PITUNG jadi BUNGKARNOHATTA dan memerdekakan JKSE dari
rayuan-rayuan other regional bargain

ADA yang sudah BELAJAR INTERMARKET ANALYSYShh atau perlu
TT?

 Jacky Chen emang paling jago loncat yah...
 
 What a happy day today untuk yang out last Fri
 
 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: market strikes back on shanghai noon

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Dan yang paling penting INDEX US/EROPA nanti malam dan
index Asia besok pagi

Tapi udah TERLAMBAT BELI kalo regional naek...

Tapi kalo regional JEBLOK LAGI, enak yang engga punya
barang seperti tadi pagi...

So, please advice on: prediksi index REGIONAL ?


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Odink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 tunggu closing aja.. biar ketauan yg beli hari ini emang ada 
duitnya apa  
 gak, kl yg one day udah pasti mencret bentaran lagi..
 
 On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:30:06 +0700, James Arifin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:
 
  Mungkin bisa coba2 short setelah pullback sekarang karena market 
masih  
  belum
  cukup kuat





RE: [obrolan-bandar] JCI naik dari 50% retracement level di 1710

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik feter
Besok JSX minus 15 point Boss, tutup di 1705-1710.

 

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From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Marjan Syah
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 3:08 PM
To: obrolan-bandar
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] JCI naik dari 50% retracement level di 1710

 

Hari ini JCI turning dari lowest level dengan support kuat terlihat di 50%
retracement level di 1700. Sempat turun sekitar 5 % dan sekarang tinggal
-1.8%. Sudah naik sekitar 3 % dari lowest hari ini. Shanghai naik 3.94% pada
penutupan hari ini dan bursa asia lainnya menunjukkan trend yang meningkat
di akhir perdagangan hari ini. Bagaimana besok menurut perkiraan para suhu? 

 



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: mau isi gudang internet error , fren ku ngadat.......ya terpaksa deh...ngeliatin doang

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik Asep Buhori
tul mbah jrg skl ada ksmptn spt ini

--- jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Si BOZZ engga mungkin kasih untung PULUHAN JUTA
 dalam hitungan
 menit. Jadi ^%$$#$%**
 
 Jurus PANIC DISENGAJA TADI PAGI, bener bener
 SERANGAN KESELATAN
 dalam 5 menit dan BALIK NYERANG KEATAS SECEPAT KILAT
 !!!
 
 Disini yang diperlukan bukan TA, FA, atau ilmu
 lainnya,
 cukup INSTINCT/NALURI apa yang mau dilakukan
 siBOZZ...
 
 Dan tentunya INTERNET/KOMUNIKASI kebroker harus
 LANCAR... 
 
 Nah APA SELANJUTNYA
 
 Ada yang punya EXTENDED INSTINCT atau selanjutnya
 kita pake
 TA ?.
 
 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: IS IT TRUE?

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
IT IS NOT TRUE kata embah...

Cuman yang KOMUNIKASInya kebursa bagus bisa MAEN tadi pagi
dalam TIME WINDOWS yang begitu SINGKAT...

Sedang trader recehan cuman sedikit yang bisa maen dalam
SERANGAN KILAT BEGINI. Mostly mereka mulai maen didaerah 1700 keatas.

Jadi yang NGANCURIN die dan yang NAEKIN juga die

Yang penting WHAT IS NEXT ?

Gimana pak Oentoeng, embah nanya nih ama 'MURID' ?... hehehe...

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wrote:

 Sebenarnya bursa kita agak latah.
   Begitu Asing atau Broker lokal (anggap:PERUSUH) buang barang 
dalam jumlah besar.
   Semua pada panik. Ikut-ikutan buang. dengan harapan dapat beli 
lagi dibawah.

   Dan,yg tragisbuangnya lebih rendah dari harga yg 
dibuang si PERUSUH.
   Selalu dan selalu.

   Sampai pada titik tertentu, si Perusuh buyback, lagi-lagi kita 
terlambat selangkah.
   Membeli pada harga yg lebih tinggi dari si PERUSUH.

   Padahal saya ada sedikit pengertian simpel dengan asumsi tidak 
ada masalah 
   besar seperti perusahaan Bangkrut, Ada BOM atau lain-lain.

   PEMAIN BESAR PASTI KEMBALI BERMAIN.
   TIDAK MUNGKIN MEREKA JUALAN TANPA MEMBELI APAPUN KEMBALI

   KECUALI MEREKA UDAH GAK MAIN SAHAM ALIAS JUALAN BAJU

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: market strikes back on shanghai noon

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik Odink
telat dikit gpp, mbah.. asal emang keretanya sdh pasti berangkat
kl ternyata keretanya langsir doangan.. bisa berabe.. heheee

reboundnya shanghai hari ini gak ada 50% nya jatohnya kemaren..

On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:47:37 +0700, jsx_consultant  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dan yang paling penting INDEX US/EROPA nanti malam dan
 index Asia besok pagi

 Tapi udah TERLAMBAT BELI kalo regional naek...

 Tapi kalo regional JEBLOK LAGI, enak yang engga punya
 barang seperti tadi pagi...

 So, please advice on: prediksi index REGIONAL ?


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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Dow Finishes Down 416 at 12,216, Nasdaq Finishes Down 97 at 2,408 on Global Market Plunge

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik Frederick Schubert
HURRRAAAH..

Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:JSX index to fall to 
1688...? and shortly recovered and closed above 1700..? 
  

Soeratman Doerachman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Dow Drops 416 on Global Market Plunge
Tuesday February 27, 4:51 pm ET 
By Madlen Read, AP Business Writer 
   
  Dow Finishes Down 416 at 12,216, Nasdaq Finishes Down 97 at 2,408 on Global 
Market Plunge 
  NEW YORK (AP) -- Stocks had their worst day of trading since the Sept. 11, 
2001, terrorist attacks Tuesday, briefly hurtling the Dow Jones industrials 
down more than 500 points on a worldwide tide of concern that the U.S. and 
Chinese economies are stumbling and that share prices have become overinflated.
  The steepness of the market's drop, as well as its global breadth, signaled a 
possible correction after a long period of stable and steadily rising stock 
markets, which had not been shaken by such a volatile day of trading in several 
years. 
  A 9 percent slide in Chinese stocks, which came a day after investors sent 
Shanghai's benchmark index to a record high close, set the tone for U.S. 
trading. The Dow began the day falling sharply, and the decline accelerated 
throughout the course of the session before stocks took a huge plunge in late 
afternoon as computer-driven sell programs kicked in. 
  The Dow fell 546.02, or 4.3 percent, to 12,086.06 before recovering some 
ground in the last hour of trading to close down 416.02, or 3.29 percent, at 
12,216.24, according to preliminary calculations. Because the worst of the 
plunge took place after 2:30 p.m., the New York Stock Exchange's trading 
limits, designed to halt such precipitous moves, were not activated. 
  The decline was the Dow's worst since Sept. 17, 2001, the first trading day 
after the terror attacks, when the blue chips closed down 684.81, or 7.13 
percent. 
  The drop hit every sector of stocks across the market. Riskier issues such as 
small-cap and technology stocks suffered the biggest declines. 
  But analysts who have been expecting a pullback after a huge rally that began 
last October and sent the Dow to a series of record highs, were unfazed by 
Tuesday's drop. 
  This corrective consolidation phase isn't just going to be one day, but we 
don't believe this is going to be a bear market, said Bob Doll, BlackRock's 
global chief investment officer of equities. 
  Some investors also tried to put Tuesday's slide into a longer-term 
perspective. 
  All who invest should feel grateful that we've had a great run for the last 
12 to 18 months, said Joel Kleinman, a Washington, D.C. attorney, adding that 
he has learned to not read too much into any short-term ups and downs. This is 
another day in the market. 
  Still, traders' dwindling confidence was knocked down further by data showing 
that the economy may be decelerating more than anticipated. A Commerce 
Department report that orders for durable goods in January dropped by the 
largest amount in three months exacerbated jitters about the direction of the 
U.S. economy, just a day after former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan 
said the United States may be headed for a recession. 
  It looks more and more like the economy is a slow growth economy, said 
Michael Strauss, chief economist at Commonfund. Moderate economic growth is 
good -- an abrupt stop in economic growth scares people. 
  The market had been expecting the government on Wednesday to revise its 
estimate of fourth-quarter GDP growth down to an annual rate of about 2.3 
percent from an initial forecast of 3.5 percent, and grew increasingly nervous 
on Tuesday that the figure could come in even lower. 
  The housing market, which the Street had been hoping had bottomed out, also 
looked far from recovery after a Standard  Poor's index indicated that 
single-family home prices across the nation were flat in December. A later 
report from the National Association of Realtors said existing home sales 
climbed in January by the largest amount in two years, but the data didn't 
erase housing-related concerns, as median home prices fell for a sixth straight 
month. 
  But a growing feeling that Wall Street, which has had a big run-up since 
October, was due for a correction also played into Tuesday's decline. 
  I think that the market was prepared to pull back. The constellation of 
issues that were worrying the market came to a head, said Quincy Krosby, chief 
investment strategist at The Hartford. 
  Just a week ago, the Dow had reached new closing and trading highs, rising as 
high as 12,795.92. 
  The broader Standard  Poor's 500 index was down 50.33, or 3.47 percent, at 
1,399.04, and the tech-dominated Nasdaq composite index was off 96.65, or 3.86 
percent, at 2,407.87. 
  A suicide bomber attack on the main U.S. military base in Afghanistan where 
Vice President Dick Cheney was visiting also rattled the market. 
  China's stock market 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Dow Finishes Down 416 at 12,216, Nasdaq Finishes Down 97 at 2,408 on Global Market Plunge

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik Jimmy Gunawan
What's next Mr. ?

JG

  - Original Message - 
  From: Frederick Schubert 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 4:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Dow Finishes Down 416 at 12,216, Nasdaq 
Finishes Down 97 at 2,408 on Global Market Plunge


  HURRRAAAH..

  Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
JSX index to fall to 1688...? and shortly recovered and closed above 
1700..? 


Soeratman Doerachman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Dow Drops 416 on Global Market Plunge
  Tuesday February 27, 4:51 pm ET 
  By Madlen Read, AP Business Writer 
   

  Dow Finishes Down 416 at 12,216, Nasdaq Finishes Down 97 at 2,408 on 
Global Market Plunge 
  NEW YORK (AP) -- Stocks had their worst day of trading since the Sept. 
11, 2001, terrorist attacks Tuesday, briefly hurtling the Dow Jones industrials 
down more than 500 points on a worldwide tide of concern that the U.S. and 
Chinese economies are stumbling and that share prices have become overinflated.
  The steepness of the market's drop, as well as its global breadth, 
signaled a possible correction after a long period of stable and steadily 
rising stock markets, which had not been shaken by such a volatile day of 
trading in several years. 
  A 9 percent slide in Chinese stocks, which came a day after investors 
sent Shanghai's benchmark index to a record high close, set the tone for U.S. 
trading. The Dow began the day falling sharply, and the decline accelerated 
throughout the course of the session before stocks took a huge plunge in late 
afternoon as computer-driven sell programs kicked in. 
  The Dow fell 546.02, or 4.3 percent, to 12,086.06 before recovering some 
ground in the last hour of trading to close down 416.02, or 3.29 percent, at 
12,216.24, according to preliminary calculations. Because the worst of the 
plunge took place after 2:30 p.m., the New York Stock Exchange's trading 
limits, designed to halt such precipitous moves, were not activated. 
  The decline was the Dow's worst since Sept. 17, 2001, the first trading 
day after the terror attacks, when the blue chips closed down 684.81, or 7.13 
percent. 
  The drop hit every sector of stocks across the market. Riskier issues 
such as small-cap and technology stocks suffered the biggest declines. 
  But analysts who have been expecting a pullback after a huge rally that 
began last October and sent the Dow to a series of record highs, were unfazed 
by Tuesday's drop. 
  This corrective consolidation phase isn't just going to be one day, but 
we don't believe this is going to be a bear market, said Bob Doll, BlackRock's 
global chief investment officer of equities. 
  Some investors also tried to put Tuesday's slide into a longer-term 
perspective. 
  All who invest should feel grateful that we've had a great run for the 
last 12 to 18 months, said Joel Kleinman, a Washington, D.C. attorney, adding 
that he has learned to not read too much into any short-term ups and downs. 
This is another day in the market. 
  Still, traders' dwindling confidence was knocked down further by data 
showing that the economy may be decelerating more than anticipated. A Commerce 
Department report that orders for durable goods in January dropped by the 
largest amount in three months exacerbated jitters about the direction of the 
U.S. economy, just a day after former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan 
said the United States may be headed for a recession. 
  It looks more and more like the economy is a slow growth economy, said 
Michael Strauss, chief economist at Commonfund. Moderate economic growth is 
good -- an abrupt stop in economic growth scares people. 
  The market had been expecting the government on Wednesday to revise its 
estimate of fourth-quarter GDP growth down to an annual rate of about 2.3 
percent from an initial forecast of 3.5 percent, and grew increasingly nervous 
on Tuesday that the figure could come in even lower. 
  The housing market, which the Street had been hoping had bottomed out, 
also looked far from recovery after a Standard  Poor's index indicated that 
single-family home prices across the nation were flat in December. A later 
report from the National Association of Realtors said existing home sales 
climbed in January by the largest amount in two years, but the data didn't 
erase housing-related concerns, as median home prices fell for a sixth straight 
month. 
  But a growing feeling that Wall Street, which has had a big run-up since 
October, was due for a correction also played into Tuesday's decline. 
  I think that the market was prepared to pull back. The constellation of 
issues that were worrying the market came to a head, said Quincy Krosby, chief 
investment strategist at The Hartford. 
  Just a week ago, the Dow had reached new closing and trading highs, 
rising 

[obrolan-bandar] Re: market strikes back on shanghai noon

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Dalam keadaan HECTIC begini, anda masih tetap RASIONIL dan
COOL 

VETERAN never dies in the market unless dipangil yg 
diatas... hehehe

Semoga panjang umur dan hokienya berlimpah ditahun BABI yang
banyak guyuran air hujan (katanya banyak rezekinya). Jadi meskipun
DIGEBUK ama BOZZ pagi ini, malah untung

Mudah mudahan GUYURAN siBOZZ pagi ini (TANPA BARANG !!!) 
adalah angpao dari siBOZZ sebagai 'TANDA' awal dari BABI BASAH
yang penuh dengan keberuntungan semoga


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Odink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 telat dikit gpp, mbah.. asal emang keretanya sdh pasti berangkat
 kl ternyata keretanya langsir doangan.. bisa berabe.. heheee
 
 reboundnya shanghai hari ini gak ada 50% nya jatohnya kemaren..
 
 On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:47:37 +0700, jsx_consultant  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Dan yang paling penting INDEX US/EROPA nanti malam dan
  index Asia besok pagi
 
  Tapi udah TERLAMBAT BELI kalo regional naek...
 
  Tapi kalo regional JEBLOK LAGI, enak yang engga punya
  barang seperti tadi pagi...
 
  So, please advice on: prediksi index REGIONAL ?





[obrolan-bandar] Re: IS IT TRUE?

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik www.titan
Tanda2nya regional mau ke Selatan neh mbah
Gimana neh menurut pak Oentoeng...




--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 IT IS NOT TRUE kata embah...
 
 Cuman yang KOMUNIKASInya kebursa bagus bisa MAEN tadi pagi
 dalam TIME WINDOWS yang begitu SINGKAT...
 
 Sedang trader recehan cuman sedikit yang bisa maen dalam
 SERANGAN KILAT BEGINI. Mostly mereka mulai maen didaerah 1700 keatas.
 
 Jadi yang NGANCURIN die dan yang NAEKIN juga die
 
 Yang penting WHAT IS NEXT ?
 
 Gimana pak Oentoeng, embah nanya nih ama 'MURID' ?... hehehe...
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jack Cowok jackcowok2@ 
 wrote:
 
  Sebenarnya bursa kita agak latah.
Begitu Asing atau Broker lokal (anggap:PERUSUH) buang barang 
 dalam jumlah besar.
Semua pada panik. Ikut-ikutan buang. dengan harapan dapat beli 
 lagi dibawah.
 
Dan,yg tragisbuangnya lebih rendah dari harga yg 
 dibuang si PERUSUH.
Selalu dan selalu.
 
Sampai pada titik tertentu, si Perusuh buyback, lagi-lagi kita 
 terlambat selangkah.
Membeli pada harga yg lebih tinggi dari si PERUSUH.
 
Padahal saya ada sedikit pengertian simpel dengan asumsi tidak 
 ada masalah 
besar seperti perusahaan Bangkrut, Ada BOM atau lain-lain.
 
PEMAIN BESAR PASTI KEMBALI BERMAIN.
TIDAK MUNGKIN MEREKA JUALAN TANPA MEMBELI APAPUN KEMBALI
 
KECUALI MEREKA UDAH GAK MAIN SAHAM ALIAS JUALAN BAJU
 
Ya ini sekedar pemikiran dari saya.
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Dow Finishes Down 416 at 12,216, Nasdaq Finishes Down 97 at 2,408 on Global Market Plunge

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik Investor Bonex
Emang Mr FS Oce, prediksinya manjuuur...
   
  So, what the next path, going SOUTH or NORTH ?

Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  HURRRAAAH..

Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JSX index to fall to 
1688...? and shortly recovered and closed above 1700..? 
  

Soeratman Doerachman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Dow Drops 416 on Global Market Plunge
Tuesday February 27, 4:51 pm ET 
By Madlen Read, AP Business Writer 
   
  Dow Finishes Down 416 at 12,216, Nasdaq Finishes Down 97 at 2,408 on Global 
Market Plunge 
  NEW YORK (AP) -- Stocks had their worst day of trading since the Sept. 11, 
2001, terrorist attacks Tuesday, briefly hurtling the Dow Jones industrials 
down more than 500 points on a worldwide tide of concern that the U.S. and 
Chinese economies are stumbling and that share prices have become overinflated.
  The steepness of the market's drop, as well as its global breadth, signaled a 
possible correction after a long period of stable and steadily rising stock 
markets, which had not been shaken by such a volatile day of trading in several 
years. 
  A 9 percent slide in Chinese stocks, which came a day after investors sent 
Shanghai's benchmark index to a record high close, set the tone for U.S. 
trading. The Dow began the day falling sharply, and the decline accelerated 
throughout the course of the session before stocks took a huge plunge in late 
afternoon as computer-driven sell programs kicked in. 
  The Dow fell 546.02, or 4.3 percent, to 12,086.06 before recovering some 
ground in the last hour of trading to close down 416.02, or 3.29 percent, at 
12,216.24, according to preliminary calculations. Because the worst of the 
plunge took place after 2:30 p.m., the New York Stock Exchange's trading 
limits, designed to halt such precipitous moves, were not activated. 
  The decline was the Dow's worst since Sept. 17, 2001, the first trading day 
after the terror attacks, when the blue chips closed down 684.81, or 7.13 
percent. 
  The drop hit every sector of stocks across the market. Riskier issues such as 
small-cap and technology stocks suffered the biggest declines. 
  But analysts who have been expecting a pullback after a huge rally that began 
last October and sent the Dow to a series of record highs, were unfazed by 
Tuesday's drop. 
  This corrective consolidation phase isn't just going to be one day, but we 
don't believe this is going to be a bear market, said Bob Doll, BlackRock's 
global chief investment officer of equities. 
  Some investors also tried to put Tuesday's slide into a longer-term 
perspective. 
  All who invest should feel grateful that we've had a great run for the last 
12 to 18 months, said Joel Kleinman, a Washington, D.C. attorney, adding that 
he has learned to not read too much into any short-term ups and downs. This is 
another day in the market. 
  Still, traders' dwindling confidence was knocked down further by data showing 
that the economy may be decelerating more than anticipated. A Commerce 
Department report that orders for durable goods in January dropped by the 
largest amount in three months exacerbated jitters about the direction of the 
U.S. economy, just a day after former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan 
said the United States may be headed for a recession. 
  It looks more and more like the economy is a slow growth economy, said 
Michael Strauss, chief economist at Commonfund. Moderate economic growth is 
good -- an abrupt stop in economic growth scares people. 
  The market had been expecting the government on Wednesday to revise its 
estimate of fourth-quarter GDP growth down to an annual rate of about 2.3 
percent from an initial forecast of 3.5 percent, and grew increasingly nervous 
on Tuesday that the figure could come in even lower. 
  The housing market, which the Street had been hoping had bottomed out, also 
looked far from recovery after a Standard  Poor's index indicated that 
single-family home prices across the nation were flat in December. A later 
report from the National Association of Realtors said existing home sales 
climbed in January by the largest amount in two years, but the data didn't 
erase housing-related concerns, as median home prices fell for a sixth straight 
month. 
  But a growing feeling that Wall Street, which has had a big run-up since 
October, was due for a correction also played into Tuesday's decline. 
  I think that the market was prepared to pull back. The constellation of 
issues that were worrying the market came to a head, said Quincy Krosby, chief 
investment strategist at The Hartford. 
  Just a week ago, the Dow had reached new closing and trading highs, rising as 
high as 12,795.92. 
  The broader Standard  Poor's 500 index was down 50.33, or 3.47 percent, at 
1,399.04, and the tech-dominated Nasdaq composite index was off 96.65, or 3.86 
percent, at 2,407.87. 
  A suicide bomber 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] No Way Out

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik Ricky Dahlan
Saya cuma menghitung saja kalau DJIA dan STI turun 3%
dalam sehari, HSI-X dan NI-225 turun hampir 3% ...
biasanya masih akan ada ledakan kecil-kecil lagi
sebelum market stable dan pelan-pelan naik
merangkak...jadi kalau hari ini JSX turun cuma 1.3%
masih bakal bisa turun lagi beberapa hari ke
depan...hari ini bisa rebound bukan karena market
sudah pulih dari 1600-an tapi karena banyak yang cover
short position, apalagi trader besar yang sekali
ngeshort beberapa ribu lot...tunggu di 1650an baru
masuk lagi untuk hold tiga bulan...ini kebiasaan saya
dan hasilnya lumayan...

--- Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 yakin? kalau view untuk hari ini atau minggu ini dan
 yang margin it's ok no
 way out. kalau ndak ada posisi kayak anda ini
 mungkin mau tadah di bawah
 yach jadi suruh orang jualan supaya jatuh dalam jadi
 enak donk belinya.
 regards
 
 On 2/28/07, Ricky Dahlan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
Gue rasa tidak ada solusi untuk kondisi seperti
 ini, jual saja yang ada
  posisi berapapun masuknya. . .
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Dow Finishes Down 416 at 12,216, Nasdaq Finishes Down 97 at 2,408 on Global Market Plunge

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik Frederick Schubert
ugh
  we still have another day of selling tomorrow...

Investor Bonex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Emang Mr FS Oce, prediksinya manjuuur...
   
  So, what the next path, going SOUTH or NORTH ?

Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  HURRRAAAH..

Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JSX index to fall to 
1688...? and shortly recovered and closed above 1700..? 
  

Soeratman Doerachman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Dow Drops 416 on Global Market Plunge
Tuesday February 27, 4:51 pm ET 
By Madlen Read, AP Business Writer 
   
  Dow Finishes Down 416 at 12,216, Nasdaq Finishes Down 97 at 2,408 on Global 
Market Plunge 
  NEW YORK (AP) -- Stocks had their worst day of trading since the Sept. 11, 
2001, terrorist attacks Tuesday, briefly hurtling the Dow Jones industrials 
down more than 500 points on a worldwide tide of concern that the U.S. and 
Chinese economies are stumbling and that share prices have become overinflated.
  The steepness of the market's drop, as well as its global breadth, signaled a 
possible correction after a long period of stable and steadily rising stock 
markets, which had not been shaken by such a volatile day of trading in several 
years. 
  A 9 percent slide in Chinese stocks, which came a day after investors sent 
Shanghai's benchmark index to a record high close, set the tone for U.S. 
trading. The Dow began the day falling sharply, and the decline accelerated 
throughout the course of the session before stocks took a huge plunge in late 
afternoon as computer-driven sell programs kicked in. 
  The Dow fell 546.02, or 4.3 percent, to 12,086.06 before recovering some 
ground in the last hour of trading to close down 416.02, or 3.29 percent, at 
12,216.24, according to preliminary calculations. Because the worst of the 
plunge took place after 2:30 p.m., the New York Stock Exchange's trading 
limits, designed to halt such precipitous moves, were not activated. 
  The decline was the Dow's worst since Sept. 17, 2001, the first trading day 
after the terror attacks, when the blue chips closed down 684.81, or 7.13 
percent. 
  The drop hit every sector of stocks across the market. Riskier issues such as 
small-cap and technology stocks suffered the biggest declines. 
  But analysts who have been expecting a pullback after a huge rally that began 
last October and sent the Dow to a series of record highs, were unfazed by 
Tuesday's drop. 
  This corrective consolidation phase isn't just going to be one day, but we 
don't believe this is going to be a bear market, said Bob Doll, BlackRock's 
global chief investment officer of equities. 
  Some investors also tried to put Tuesday's slide into a longer-term 
perspective. 
  All who invest should feel grateful that we've had a great run for the last 
12 to 18 months, said Joel Kleinman, a Washington, D.C. attorney, adding that 
he has learned to not read too much into any short-term ups and downs. This is 
another day in the market. 
  Still, traders' dwindling confidence was knocked down further by data showing 
that the economy may be decelerating more than anticipated. A Commerce 
Department report that orders for durable goods in January dropped by the 
largest amount in three months exacerbated jitters about the direction of the 
U.S. economy, just a day after former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan 
said the United States may be headed for a recession. 
  It looks more and more like the economy is a slow growth economy, said 
Michael Strauss, chief economist at Commonfund. Moderate economic growth is 
good -- an abrupt stop in economic growth scares people. 
  The market had been expecting the government on Wednesday to revise its 
estimate of fourth-quarter GDP growth down to an annual rate of about 2.3 
percent from an initial forecast of 3.5 percent, and grew increasingly nervous 
on Tuesday that the figure could come in even lower. 
  The housing market, which the Street had been hoping had bottomed out, also 
looked far from recovery after a Standard  Poor's index indicated that 
single-family home prices across the nation were flat in December. A later 
report from the National Association of Realtors said existing home sales 
climbed in January by the largest amount in two years, but the data didn't 
erase housing-related concerns, as median home prices fell for a sixth straight 
month. 
  But a growing feeling that Wall Street, which has had a big run-up since 
October, was due for a correction also played into Tuesday's decline. 
  I think that the market was prepared to pull back. The constellation of 
issues that were worrying the market came to a head, said Quincy Krosby, chief 
investment strategist at The Hartford. 
  Just a week ago, the Dow had reached new closing and trading highs, rising as 
high as 12,795.92. 
  The broader Standard  Poor's 500 index was down 50.33, or 3.47 percent, at 
1,399.04, and 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Dow Finishes Down 416 at 12,216, Nasdaq Finishes Down 97 at 2,408 on Global Market Plunge

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik hst auto

trying to figure out what you will up to ...
little bear will continue to follow..

if JCI down again tomorrow , it will be great to be collected by trader...
hahaha :)

On 2/28/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  ugh
we still have another day of selling tomorrow...

*Investor Bonex [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

 Emang Mr FS Oce, prediksinya manjuuur...

So, what the next path, going SOUTH or NORTH ?

*Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

 HURRRAAAH..

*Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

 JSX index to fall to 1688...? and shortly recovered and closed above
1700..?


*Soeratman Doerachman [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

  *Dow Drops 416 on Global Market Plunge*
Tuesday February 27, 4:51 pm ET
By Madlen Read, AP Business Writer

*Dow Finishes Down 416 at 12,216, Nasdaq Finishes Down 97 at 2,408 on
Global Market Plunge*
NEW YORK (AP) -- Stocks had their worst day of trading since the Sept. 11,
2001, terrorist attacks Tuesday, briefly hurtling the Dow Jones industrials
down more than 500 points on a worldwide tide of concern that the U.S. and
Chinese economies are stumbling and that share prices have become
overinflated.
The steepness of the market's drop, as well as its global breadth,
signaled a possible correction after a long period of stable and steadily
rising stock markets, which had not been shaken by such a volatile day of
trading in several years.
A 9 percent slide in Chinese stocks, which came a day after investors sent
Shanghai's benchmark index to a record high close, set the tone for U.S.
trading. The Dow began the day falling sharply, and the decline accelerated
throughout the course of the session before stocks took a huge plunge in
late afternoon as computer-driven sell programs kicked in.
The Dow fell 546.02, or 4.3 percent, to 12,086.06 before recovering some
ground in the last hour of trading to close down 416.02, or 3.29 percent,
at 12,216.24, according to preliminary calculations. Because the worst of
the plunge took place after 2:30 p.m., the New York Stock Exchange's
trading limits, designed to halt such precipitous moves, were not activated.

The decline was the Dow's worst since Sept. 17, 2001, the first trading
day after the terror attacks, when the blue chips closed down 684.81, or
7.13 percent.
The drop hit every sector of stocks across the market. Riskier issues such
as small-cap and technology stocks suffered the biggest declines.
But analysts who have been expecting a pullback after a huge rally that
began last October and sent the Dow to a series of record highs, were
unfazed by Tuesday's drop.
This corrective consolidation phase isn't just going to be one day, but
we don't believe this is going to be a bear market, said Bob Doll,
BlackRock's global chief investment officer of equities.
Some investors also tried to put Tuesday's slide into a longer-term
perspective.
All who invest should feel grateful that we've had a great run for the
last 12 to 18 months, said Joel Kleinman, a Washington, D.C. attorney,
adding that he has learned to not read too much into any short-term ups and
downs. This is another day in the market.
Still, traders' dwindling confidence was knocked down further by data
showing that the economy may be decelerating more than anticipated. A
Commerce Department report that orders for durable goods in January dropped
by the largest amount in three months exacerbated jitters about the
direction of the U.S. economy, just a day after former Federal Reserve
Chairman Alan Greenspan said the United States may be headed for a
recession.
It looks more and more like the economy is a slow growth economy, said
Michael Strauss, chief economist at Commonfund. Moderate economic growth is
good -- an abrupt stop in economic growth scares people.
The market had been expecting the government on Wednesday to revise its
estimate of fourth-quarter GDP growth down to an annual rate of about 
2.3percent from an initial forecast of
3.5 percent, and grew increasingly nervous on Tuesday that the figure
could come in even lower.
The housing market, which the Street had been hoping had bottomed out,
also looked far from recovery after a Standard  Poor's index indicated that
single-family home prices across the nation were flat in December. A later
report from the National Association of Realtors said existing home sales
climbed in January by the largest amount in two years, but the data didn't
erase housing-related concerns, as median home prices fell for a sixth
straight month.
But a growing feeling that Wall Street, which has had a big run-up since
October, was due for a correction also played into Tuesday's decline.
I think that the market was prepared to pull back. The constellation of
issues that were worrying the market came to a head, said Quincy Krosby,
chief investment strategist at The Hartford.
Just a week ago, the Dow had reached new closing and trading highs, rising
as high as 12,795.92.

[obrolan-bandar] Warning buat besok... Re: IS IT TRUE?

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Serangan JAUH KEBAWAH dilanjutkan dengan serangan TIBA TIBA
KEATAS punya 2 implikasi:

1. Implikasi BAIK:
   Sesudah GOJLOKAN ini selesai maka, AVERAGE COST rata rata
   trader menjadi lebih RENDAH, jadi kedepan INDEX menjadi
   lebih mudah naik, karena LEMAK LEMAK trader kejedut menjadi
   hilang kena Margin Call.
2. Implikasi BRUK:
   Trader melihat index yang rebound MEYAKINKAN hari ini menjadi 
   OPTIMIS dan YAKIN: Jika REGIONAL jatoh lagi entar malam
   maka mereka AKAN BUY dengan harapan KEJADIAN ini akan berulang.

Tapi embah INGATKAN, kejadian INI tidak AKAN TERJADI LAGI BESOK
meskipun REGIONAL minus lagi nanti malam. Si BOZZ tidak akan
mengulang TAKTIK yang SAMA INI besok, karena dia BUKAN orang
bego... s

Note:
- Hari ini meskipun volumenya BESAR, sebenarnya ini BOONGAN karena
kalo BENERAN BARANG DIBAGI, engga mungkin INDEX bisa rebound
dengan meyakinkan, INI CUMAN ILUSI bagi yang percaya ama volume.

Jadi kita doain aja REGIONAL membaik agar implikasi no 2 TIDAK
TERJADI karena jika implikasi no 2 terjafi maka AKAN TERJADI
SERANGAN KESELATAN SECARA LAMBAT TAPI MASIVE DAN MENYAKITKAN
karena trader akan mengakumulasi guyuran siBOZZ...

Tapi jika REGIONAL membaik, maka IMPLIKASI 1 akan bekerja,
INDEX akan naik kencang lagi karena IHSG udah seperti ibu
ibu yang SINGSET+ LANGSING DIGOJLOK HABIS hari ini semoga


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Aria Bela Nusa 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kalo harga turun2 begini - memang relatif susah utk jualan2 - krn 
harga
 cepet banget meluncur ke bawah + ada gapping down (harga2 loncat ke
 bawah).Demikian pula sebaliknya, kalo pas harga naek2 (drastis) 
memang
 relatif susah waktu 'nguber2 belinya -- apalagi kalo ditambahi dg 
emosi
 lg - tapi, ya itu kita memang harus melakukan sesuatu (namanya juga
 'usaha').
  
 :) Kalo lihat hasil akhirnya market (- 20-an, 4 T) - kayaknya 
business
 as usual saja, ya (spt profit bookings biasa saja) - dampaknya 
ternyata
 tidak spt yg orang kebanyakan bayangkan2/kuatirkan2 semula setelah
 berjalannya waktu
  
 Regards,
  
 Aria
  
 -Original Message-
 From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Cowok
 Sent: 28 Februari 2007 15:45
 To: saham@yahoogroups.com
 Cc: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] IS IT TRUE?
  
 Sebenarnya bursa kita agak latah.
 Begitu Asing atau Broker lokal (anggap:PERUSUH) buang barang dalam
 jumlah besar.
 Semua pada panik. Ikut-ikutan buang. dengan harapan dapat beli lagi
 dibawah.
  
 Dan,yg tragisbuangnya lebih rendah dari harga yg 
dibuang
 si PERUSUH.
 Selalu dan selalu.
  
 Sampai pada titik tertentu, si Perusuh buyback, lagi-lagi kita 
terlambat
 selangkah.
 Membeli pada harga yg lebih tinggi dari si PERUSUH.
  
 Padahal saya ada sedikit pengertian simpel dengan asumsi tidak ada
 masalah 
 besar seperti perusahaan Bangkrut, Ada BOM atau lain-lain.
  
 PEMAIN BESAR PASTI KEMBALI BERMAIN.
 TIDAK MUNGKIN MEREKA JUALAN TANPA MEMBELI APAPUN KEMBALI
  
 KECUALI MEREKA UDAH GAK MAIN SAHAM ALIAS JUALAN BAJU
  
 Ya ini sekedar pemikiran dari saya.
  
 Is it TRUE or NOT, depend on your mind.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] JCI naik dari 50% retracement level di 1710

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik Josia
waduh ni dukun pake angka pasti pulak, darimana angka itu Om dhukun?
kasih tahu hitungannya? 

Ikuti Pesan bang Napi aja :

WASPADALAH..WASPADALAH.

 Cut Loss Akibat Disiplin Ketat 

  - Original Message - 
  From: feter 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 3:50 PM
  Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] JCI naik dari 50% retracement level di 1710



  Besok JSX minus 15 point Boss, tutup di 1705-1710.




--

  From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Marjan Syah
  Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 3:08 PM
  To: obrolan-bandar
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] JCI naik dari 50% retracement level di 1710



  Hari ini JCI turning dari lowest level dengan support kuat terlihat di 50% 
retracement level di 1700. Sempat turun sekitar 5 % dan sekarang tinggal -1.8%. 
Sudah naik sekitar 3 % dari lowest hari ini. Shanghai naik 3.94% pada penutupan 
hari ini dan bursa asia lainnya menunjukkan trend yang meningkat di akhir 
perdagangan hari ini. Bagaimana besok menurut perkiraan para suhu? 


   


RE: [obrolan-bandar] Warning buat besok... Re: IS IT TRUE?

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik Dean Earwicker
Psikologi pasar, dimana saya bisa belajar hal ini... Mirip dengan The Art of
War nya Sun Tzu

Rasanya JSX hal ini jauh lebih dominan dibanding FA dan TA,.. CMIIW..

 

-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of jsx_consultant
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 6:16 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Warning buat besok... Re: IS IT TRUE?

Serangan JAUH KEBAWAH dilanjutkan dengan serangan TIBA TIBA KEATAS punya 2
implikasi:

1. Implikasi BAIK:
   Sesudah GOJLOKAN ini selesai maka, AVERAGE COST rata rata
   trader menjadi lebih RENDAH, jadi kedepan INDEX menjadi
   lebih mudah naik, karena LEMAK LEMAK trader kejedut menjadi
   hilang kena Margin Call.
2. Implikasi BRUK:
   Trader melihat index yang rebound MEYAKINKAN hari ini menjadi 
   OPTIMIS dan YAKIN: Jika REGIONAL jatoh lagi entar malam
   maka mereka AKAN BUY dengan harapan KEJADIAN ini akan berulang.

Tapi embah INGATKAN, kejadian INI tidak AKAN TERJADI LAGI BESOK meskipun
REGIONAL minus lagi nanti malam. Si BOZZ tidak akan mengulang TAKTIK yang
SAMA INI besok, karena dia BUKAN orang bego... s

Note:
- Hari ini meskipun volumenya BESAR, sebenarnya ini BOONGAN karena kalo
BENERAN BARANG DIBAGI, engga mungkin INDEX bisa rebound dengan meyakinkan,
INI CUMAN ILUSI bagi yang percaya ama volume.

Jadi kita doain aja REGIONAL membaik agar implikasi no 2 TIDAK TERJADI
karena jika implikasi no 2 terjafi maka AKAN TERJADI SERANGAN KESELATAN
SECARA LAMBAT TAPI MASIVE DAN MENYAKITKAN karena trader akan mengakumulasi
guyuran siBOZZ...

Tapi jika REGIONAL membaik, maka IMPLIKASI 1 akan bekerja, INDEX akan naik
kencang lagi karena IHSG udah seperti ibu ibu yang SINGSET+ LANGSING
DIGOJLOK HABIS hari ini semoga



Re: [obrolan-bandar] JCI naik dari 50% retracement level di 1710

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik herman ardiyanto
Bukannya udah pasti gagal tuh, kalo -15 besok tutup di 1725. Kalo +15
tutup di 1755 he he he.

On 2/28/07, Josia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 waduh ni dukun pake angka pasti pulak, darimana  angka itu Om dhukun?
 kasih tahu hitungannya?

 From:feter
 Besok JSX minus 15point Boss, tutup di 1705-1710.


Re: [obrolan-bandar] Sedia payung dan jaket sebelum hujan!

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik herman ardiyanto
Omong2, Tan-toanio meramalkan hujan dari mana ya kemarin? Rumor
tentang perubahan kebijakan atau murni secara teknikal?


[obrolan-bandar] Re: IS IT TRUE?

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q

YOU're TRUE Mbah kata saya...
Logikanya SIAPA yg GILA mau menjual saham (BC) TLKM, BBCA, BBRI 
dst..sbg OPENING WAR?
Apalagi kalau diiringi LOT GEDHE?

Kalau Mbah pake GARIS TENGAH 1700
Artinya BOZZ nampungin barang2 di bawah 1700 dan..
Jualnya di atas 1700.
Bisa NAMBAH lot (kalau diternak) atau NETTING (nggak pake 
barang/modal)

What NEXT
Yang jelas BOZZ muter DUNIA BEJ ini ALMOST DONE...
Artinya proses rounding TOP pd BC sudah lebih dari 50% dari target 
harga yg ingin dicapai secara keseluruhan.

Yang penting  kita SEMUA lihat portfolio masing2 apakah GRAFIK-nya 
masih kelihatan UP-TREND atau kelihatan ROUNDING TOP?

Nah ngomong2 UP-TREND kalau saya masih pegang MINING secara SEKTORAL.
Dan 2nd liner beberapa...kesukaan saya.

Yang penting dlm kondisi begini masih bisa COOL...RELAXX...
Ya nggak Mbah?


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 IT IS NOT TRUE kata embah...
 
 Cuman yang KOMUNIKASInya kebursa bagus bisa MAEN tadi pagi
 dalam TIME WINDOWS yang begitu SINGKAT...
 
 Sedang trader recehan cuman sedikit yang bisa maen dalam
 SERANGAN KILAT BEGINI. Mostly mereka mulai maen didaerah 1700 
keatas.
 
 Jadi yang NGANCURIN die dan yang NAEKIN juga die
 
 Yang penting WHAT IS NEXT ?
 
 Gimana pak Oentoeng, embah nanya nih ama 'MURID' ?... hehehe...
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jack Cowok jackcowok2@ 
 wrote:
 
  Sebenarnya bursa kita agak latah.
Begitu Asing atau Broker lokal (anggap:PERUSUH) buang barang 
 dalam jumlah besar.
Semua pada panik. Ikut-ikutan buang. dengan harapan dapat beli 
 lagi dibawah.
 
Dan,yg tragisbuangnya lebih rendah dari harga 
yg 
 dibuang si PERUSUH.
Selalu dan selalu.
 
Sampai pada titik tertentu, si Perusuh buyback, lagi-lagi kita 
 terlambat selangkah.
Membeli pada harga yg lebih tinggi dari si PERUSUH.
 
Padahal saya ada sedikit pengertian simpel dengan asumsi tidak 
 ada masalah 
besar seperti perusahaan Bangkrut, Ada BOM atau lain-lain.
 
PEMAIN BESAR PASTI KEMBALI BERMAIN.
TIDAK MUNGKIN MEREKA JUALAN TANPA MEMBELI APAPUN KEMBALI
 
KECUALI MEREKA UDAH GAK MAIN SAHAM ALIAS JUALAN BAJU
 
Ya ini sekedar pemikiran dari saya.
 
Is it TRUE or NOT, depend on your mind.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
   
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[obrolan-bandar] IS IT TRUE?

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik Jack Cowok
Sebenarnya bursa kita agak latah.
  Begitu Asing atau Broker lokal (anggap:PERUSUH) buang barang dalam jumlah 
besar.
  Semua pada panik. Ikut-ikutan buang. dengan harapan dapat beli lagi dibawah.
   
  Dan,yg tragisbuangnya lebih rendah dari harga yg dibuang si 
PERUSUH.
  Selalu dan selalu.
   
  Sampai pada titik tertentu, si Perusuh buyback, lagi-lagi kita terlambat 
selangkah.
  Membeli pada harga yg lebih tinggi dari si PERUSUH.
   
  Padahal saya ada sedikit pengertian simpel dengan asumsi tidak ada masalah 
  besar seperti perusahaan Bangkrut, Ada BOM atau lain-lain.
   
  PEMAIN BESAR PASTI KEMBALI BERMAIN.
  TIDAK MUNGKIN MEREKA JUALAN TANPA MEMBELI APAPUN KEMBALI
   
  KECUALI MEREKA UDAH GAK MAIN SAHAM ALIAS JUALAN BAJU
   
  Ya ini sekedar pemikiran dari saya.
   
  Is it TRUE or NOT, depend on your mind.
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   

 
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] IS IT TRUE?

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik Aria Bela Nusa
Kalo harga turun2 begini - memang relatif susah utk jualan2 - krn harga
cepet banget meluncur ke bawah + ada gapping down (harga2 loncat ke
bawah).Demikian pula sebaliknya, kalo pas harga naek2 (drastis) memang
relatif susah waktu 'nguber2 belinya -- apalagi kalo ditambahi dg emosi
lg - tapi, ya itu kita memang harus melakukan sesuatu (namanya juga
'usaha').
 
:) Kalo lihat hasil akhirnya market (- 20-an, 4 T) - kayaknya business
as usual saja, ya (spt profit bookings biasa saja) - dampaknya ternyata
tidak spt yg orang kebanyakan bayangkan2/kuatirkan2 semula setelah
berjalannya waktu
 
Regards,
 
Aria
 
-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Cowok
Sent: 28 Februari 2007 15:45
To: saham@yahoogroups.com
Cc: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] IS IT TRUE?
 
Sebenarnya bursa kita agak latah.
Begitu Asing atau Broker lokal (anggap:PERUSUH) buang barang dalam
jumlah besar.
Semua pada panik. Ikut-ikutan buang. dengan harapan dapat beli lagi
dibawah.
 
Dan,yg tragisbuangnya lebih rendah dari harga yg dibuang
si PERUSUH.
Selalu dan selalu.
 
Sampai pada titik tertentu, si Perusuh buyback, lagi-lagi kita terlambat
selangkah.
Membeli pada harga yg lebih tinggi dari si PERUSUH.
 
Padahal saya ada sedikit pengertian simpel dengan asumsi tidak ada
masalah 
besar seperti perusahaan Bangkrut, Ada BOM atau lain-lain.
 
PEMAIN BESAR PASTI KEMBALI BERMAIN.
TIDAK MUNGKIN MEREKA JUALAN TANPA MEMBELI APAPUN KEMBALI
 
KECUALI MEREKA UDAH GAK MAIN SAHAM ALIAS JUALAN BAJU
 
Ya ini sekedar pemikiran dari saya.
 
Is it TRUE or NOT, depend on your mind.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IS IT TRUE? +2nd Bottom poin in this Year

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik Rokaya Aritonang
Embah saya ikut nimbrung ya..

Saya setuju...yg buat 'morning shock' adalah bandar2
yg sama dgn yang naikkan dgn waktu singkat..krn u/
mancing retail jual saham di harga rendah dan
membelinya..yg kena efek China kenalah...
Sama speti tgl 9-12 Januari'07..saat Iran disinggung
AS soal projek nuklir..harga jatuh...untuk membuat
pasar panik atau bingung mau kemana...

Harapan saya hari ini adalah 'the lower price and the
2nd bottom in this year...Index buka di rem pada harga
yg sama...


--- jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 IT IS NOT TRUE kata embah...
 
 Cuman yang KOMUNIKASInya kebursa bagus bisa MAEN
 tadi pagi
 dalam TIME WINDOWS yang begitu SINGKAT...
 
 Sedang trader recehan cuman sedikit yang bisa maen
 dalam
 SERANGAN KILAT BEGINI. Mostly mereka mulai maen
 didaerah 1700 keatas.
 
 Jadi yang NGANCURIN die dan yang NAEKIN juga die
 
 Yang penting WHAT IS NEXT ?
 
 Gimana pak Oentoeng, embah nanya nih ama 'MURID'
 ?... hehehe...
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jack Cowok
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  Sebenarnya bursa kita agak latah.
Begitu Asing atau Broker lokal (anggap:PERUSUH)
 buang barang 
 dalam jumlah besar.
Semua pada panik. Ikut-ikutan buang. dengan
 harapan dapat beli 
 lagi dibawah.
 
Dan,yg tragisbuangnya lebih
 rendah dari harga yg 
 dibuang si PERUSUH.
Selalu dan selalu.
 
Sampai pada titik tertentu, si Perusuh buyback,
 lagi-lagi kita 
 terlambat selangkah.
Membeli pada harga yg lebih tinggi dari si
 PERUSUH.
 
Padahal saya ada sedikit pengertian simpel
 dengan asumsi tidak 
 ada masalah 
besar seperti perusahaan Bangkrut, Ada BOM atau
 lain-lain.
 
PEMAIN BESAR PASTI KEMBALI BERMAIN.
TIDAK MUNGKIN MEREKA JUALAN TANPA MEMBELI APAPUN
 KEMBALI
 
KECUALI MEREKA UDAH GAK MAIN SAHAM ALIAS JUALAN
 BAJU
 
Ya ini sekedar pemikiran dari saya.
 
Is it TRUE or NOT, depend on your mind.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
   
  -
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  Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel
 sites to find 
 flight and hotel bargains.
 
 
 
 


Best Regard,


Rokaya A.



 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Warning buat besok... Re: IS IT TRUE?

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik hopeng owe
Salut buat mbah  segala teknik dapat dibaca oleh embah ...yang memberikan 
lampu templok untuk penerangan bagi warung mbah . kita bangga mempunyai 
guru seperti mbah... tapi kita juga angkat jempol buat si Bozz ... selalu 
lebih awal dalam mengolah market logic  Semoga kita semua dapat belajar 
untuk hari depan.

regards

HW

jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
Serangan JAUH KEBAWAH dilanjutkan dengan serangan TIBA TIBA
 KEATAS punya 2 implikasi:
 
 1. Implikasi BAIK:
Sesudah GOJLOKAN ini selesai maka, AVERAGE COST rata rata
trader menjadi lebih RENDAH, jadi kedepan INDEX menjadi
lebih mudah naik, karena LEMAK LEMAK trader kejedut menjadi
hilang kena Margin Call.
 2. Implikasi BRUK:
Trader melihat index yang rebound MEYAKINKAN hari ini menjadi 
OPTIMIS dan YAKIN: Jika REGIONAL jatoh lagi entar malam
maka mereka AKAN BUY dengan harapan KEJADIAN ini akan berulang.
 
 Tapi embah INGATKAN, kejadian INI tidak AKAN TERJADI LAGI BESOK
 meskipun REGIONAL minus lagi nanti malam. Si BOZZ tidak akan
 mengulang TAKTIK yang SAMA INI besok, karena dia BUKAN orang
 bego... s
 
 Note:
 - Hari ini meskipun volumenya BESAR, sebenarnya ini BOONGAN karena
 kalo BENERAN BARANG DIBAGI, engga mungkin INDEX bisa rebound
 dengan meyakinkan, INI CUMAN ILUSI bagi yang percaya ama volume.
 
 Jadi kita doain aja REGIONAL membaik agar implikasi no 2 TIDAK
 TERJADI karena jika implikasi no 2 terjafi maka AKAN TERJADI
 SERANGAN KESELATAN SECARA LAMBAT TAPI MASIVE DAN MENYAKITKAN
 karena trader akan mengakumulasi guyuran siBOZZ...
 
 Tapi jika REGIONAL membaik, maka IMPLIKASI 1 akan bekerja,
 INDEX akan naik kencang lagi karena IHSG udah seperti ibu
 ibu yang SINGSET+ LANGSING DIGOJLOK HABIS hari ini semoga
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Aria Bela Nusa 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Kalo harga turun2 begini - memang relatif susah utk jualan2 - krn 
 harga
  cepet banget meluncur ke bawah + ada gapping down (harga2 loncat ke
  bawah).Demikian pula sebaliknya, kalo pas harga naek2 (drastis) 
 memang
  relatif susah waktu 'nguber2 belinya -- apalagi kalo ditambahi dg 
 emosi
  lg - tapi, ya itu kita memang harus melakukan sesuatu (namanya juga
  'usaha').
   
  :) Kalo lihat hasil akhirnya market (- 20-an, 4 T) - kayaknya 
 business
  as usual saja, ya (spt profit bookings biasa saja) - dampaknya 
 ternyata
  tidak spt yg orang kebanyakan bayangkan2/kuatirkan2 semula setelah
  berjalannya waktu
   
  Regards,
   
  Aria
   
  -Original Message-
  From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Cowok
  Sent: 28 Februari 2007 15:45
  To: saham@yahoogroups.com
  Cc: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] IS IT TRUE?
   
  Sebenarnya bursa kita agak latah.
  Begitu Asing atau Broker lokal (anggap:PERUSUH) buang barang dalam
  jumlah besar.
  Semua pada panik. Ikut-ikutan buang. dengan harapan dapat beli lagi
  dibawah.
   
  Dan,yg tragisbuangnya lebih rendah dari harga yg 
 dibuang
  si PERUSUH.
  Selalu dan selalu.
   
  Sampai pada titik tertentu, si Perusuh buyback, lagi-lagi kita 
 terlambat
  selangkah.
  Membeli pada harga yg lebih tinggi dari si PERUSUH.
   
  Padahal saya ada sedikit pengertian simpel dengan asumsi tidak ada
  masalah 
  besar seperti perusahaan Bangkrut, Ada BOM atau lain-lain.
   
  PEMAIN BESAR PASTI KEMBALI BERMAIN.
  TIDAK MUNGKIN MEREKA JUALAN TANPA MEMBELI APAPUN KEMBALI
   
  KECUALI MEREKA UDAH GAK MAIN SAHAM ALIAS JUALAN BAJU
   
  Ya ini sekedar pemikiran dari saya.
   
  Is it TRUE or NOT, depend on your mind.
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   

_  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Nickel, apakah masih naik?

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik Joe Grunk





Dibanding Nikkei dan DJIA yang turun sekitar 5%an, sebenarnya masih lebih parah 
IHSG, karena turun sampai 8% dari tertinggi beberapa hari yang lalu.  

Besok turun atau naik bozz?

Kenaikan Komoditi Nickel juga tidak berpengaruh pada saham INCO dan ANTM, 
bahkan INCO dipasang balok di 13.800.

Bozz memang hebat..!!!






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 Copper618161955920
Lead194319001550 Aluminium28882855.52648
Tin137751375012425 Nickel445004110533550
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Warning buat besok... Re: IS IT TRUE?

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik ANDIK MUSTIKA
dari sunzu intinya cuma 3 hal kok :
1. understanding your enemy
2. understanding yourself
3. understanding battle field.

- Original Message 
From: Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 3:26:37 AM
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Warning buat besok...   Re: IS IT TRUE?









  



Psikologi pasar, dimana saya bisa belajar hal ini... Mirip dengan 
The Art of

War nya Sun Tzu



Rasanya JSX hal ini jauh lebih dominan dibanding FA dan TA,.. CMIIW..



-Original Message-

From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com]

On Behalf Of jsx_consultant

Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 6:16 PM

To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Warning buat besok... Re: IS IT TRUE?



Serangan JAUH KEBAWAH dilanjutkan dengan serangan TIBA TIBA KEATAS punya 2

implikasi:



1. Implikasi BAIK:

   Sesudah GOJLOKAN ini selesai maka, AVERAGE COST rata rata

   trader menjadi lebih RENDAH, jadi kedepan INDEX menjadi

   lebih mudah naik, karena LEMAK LEMAK trader kejedut menjadi

   hilang kena Margin Call.

2. Implikasi BRUK:

   Trader melihat index yang rebound MEYAKINKAN hari ini menjadi 

   OPTIMIS dan YAKIN: Jika REGIONAL jatoh lagi entar malam

   maka mereka AKAN BUY dengan harapan KEJADIAN ini akan berulang.



Tapi embah INGATKAN, kejadian INI tidak AKAN TERJADI LAGI BESOK meskipun

REGIONAL minus lagi nanti malam. Si BOZZ tidak akan mengulang TAKTIK yang

SAMA INI besok, karena dia BUKAN orang bego... s



Note:

- Hari ini meskipun volumenya BESAR, sebenarnya ini BOONGAN karena kalo

BENERAN BARANG DIBAGI, engga mungkin INDEX bisa rebound dengan meyakinkan,

INI CUMAN ILUSI bagi yang percaya ama volume.



Jadi kita doain aja REGIONAL membaik agar implikasi no 2 TIDAK TERJADI

karena jika implikasi no 2 terjafi maka AKAN TERJADI SERANGAN KESELATAN

SECARA LAMBAT TAPI MASIVE DAN MENYAKITKAN karena trader akan mengakumulasi

guyuran siBOZZ...



Tapi jika REGIONAL membaik, maka IMPLIKASI 1 akan bekerja, INDEX akan naik

kencang lagi karena IHSG udah seperti ibu ibu yang SINGSET+ LANGSING

DIGOJLOK HABIS hari ini semoga






  







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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Warning buat besok... Re: IS IT TRUE?

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik Asep Buhori
KADANG2 ADA WAKTUNYA SI BOZZ BERBAIK HATI
HARUS CEPAT2 TANGKAP SBLM SI BOZZ BERBALIK HATINYA
TAPI GAK BAKALAN DUA KALI CUKUP SEKALI AJA
SO TOMORROW LETS SEE...

--- jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Serangan JAUH KEBAWAH dilanjutkan dengan serangan
 TIBA TIBA
 KEATAS punya 2 implikasi:
 
 1. Implikasi BAIK:
Sesudah GOJLOKAN ini selesai maka, AVERAGE COST
 rata rata
trader menjadi lebih RENDAH, jadi kedepan INDEX
 menjadi
lebih mudah naik, karena LEMAK LEMAK trader
 kejedut menjadi
hilang kena Margin Call.
 2. Implikasi BRUK:
Trader melihat index yang rebound MEYAKINKAN hari
 ini menjadi 
OPTIMIS dan YAKIN: Jika REGIONAL jatoh lagi entar
 malam
maka mereka AKAN BUY dengan harapan KEJADIAN ini
 akan berulang.
 
 Tapi embah INGATKAN, kejadian INI tidak AKAN TERJADI
 LAGI BESOK
 meskipun REGIONAL minus lagi nanti malam. Si BOZZ
 tidak akan
 mengulang TAKTIK yang SAMA INI besok, karena dia
 BUKAN orang
 bego... s
 
 Note:
 - Hari ini meskipun volumenya BESAR, sebenarnya ini
 BOONGAN karena
 kalo BENERAN BARANG DIBAGI, engga mungkin INDEX bisa
 rebound
 dengan meyakinkan, INI CUMAN ILUSI bagi yang percaya
 ama volume.
 
 Jadi kita doain aja REGIONAL membaik agar implikasi
 no 2 TIDAK
 TERJADI karena jika implikasi no 2 terjafi maka AKAN
 TERJADI
 SERANGAN KESELATAN SECARA LAMBAT TAPI MASIVE DAN
 MENYAKITKAN
 karena trader akan mengakumulasi guyuran siBOZZ...
 
 Tapi jika REGIONAL membaik, maka IMPLIKASI 1 akan
 bekerja,
 INDEX akan naik kencang lagi karena IHSG udah
 seperti ibu
 ibu yang SINGSET+ LANGSING DIGOJLOK HABIS hari
 ini semoga
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Aria Bela
 Nusa 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Kalo harga turun2 begini - memang relatif susah
 utk jualan2 - krn 
 harga
  cepet banget meluncur ke bawah + ada gapping down
 (harga2 loncat ke
  bawah).Demikian pula sebaliknya, kalo pas harga
 naek2 (drastis) 
 memang
  relatif susah waktu 'nguber2 belinya -- apalagi
 kalo ditambahi dg 
 emosi
  lg - tapi, ya itu kita memang harus melakukan
 sesuatu (namanya juga
  'usaha').
   
  :) Kalo lihat hasil akhirnya market (- 20-an, 4 T)
 - kayaknya 
 business
  as usual saja, ya (spt profit bookings biasa saja)
 - dampaknya 
 ternyata
  tidak spt yg orang kebanyakan
 bayangkan2/kuatirkan2 semula setelah
  berjalannya waktu
   
  Regards,
   
  Aria
   
  -Original Message-
  From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Jack Cowok
  Sent: 28 Februari 2007 15:45
  To: saham@yahoogroups.com
  Cc: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] IS IT TRUE?
   
  Sebenarnya bursa kita agak latah.
  Begitu Asing atau Broker lokal (anggap:PERUSUH)
 buang barang dalam
  jumlah besar.
  Semua pada panik. Ikut-ikutan buang. dengan
 harapan dapat beli lagi
  dibawah.
   
  Dan,yg tragisbuangnya lebih rendah
 dari harga yg 
 dibuang
  si PERUSUH.
  Selalu dan selalu.
   
  Sampai pada titik tertentu, si Perusuh buyback,
 lagi-lagi kita 
 terlambat
  selangkah.
  Membeli pada harga yg lebih tinggi dari si
 PERUSUH.
   
  Padahal saya ada sedikit pengertian simpel dengan
 asumsi tidak ada
  masalah 
  besar seperti perusahaan Bangkrut, Ada BOM atau
 lain-lain.
   
  PEMAIN BESAR PASTI KEMBALI BERMAIN.
  TIDAK MUNGKIN MEREKA JUALAN TANPA MEMBELI APAPUN
 KEMBALI
   
  KECUALI MEREKA UDAH GAK MAIN SAHAM ALIAS JUALAN
 BAJU
   
  Ya ini sekedar pemikiran dari saya.
   
  Is it TRUE or NOT, depend on your mind.
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   

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[obrolan-bandar] BRI Alokasikan Rp1 Triliun untuk Akuisisi Bank

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik Joe Grunk
 BRI Alokasikan Rp1 Triliun untuk Akuisisi Bank 
-
 
 Rabu, 28 Februari 2007 18:20:50
 StockWatch (Jakarta) - PT Bank Rakyat Indonesia Tbk atau Bank BRI (BBRI) 
berencana mengalokasikan investasi sekitar Rp1 triliun guna membiayai akuisisi 
atau penyertaan modal untuk perusahaan pembiayaan dan bank, kata Direktur Utama 
BRI, Sofyan Basir.

Sofyan mengatakan dalam pernyataan tertulis ke BEJ hari ini (28/2) di Jakarta, 
rencana tersebut tertuang dalam Rencana Bisnis Bank (RBB) yang dikirimkan BRI 
ke Bank Indonesia. Rencana itu bertujuan untuk mengembangkan bisnis perbankan 
termasuk pengembangan bisnis syariah, katanya.

Karena itu, BRI saat ini tengah melakukan kajian strategis terhadap beberapa 
bank target yang memiliki potensi untuk diakuisisi, namun Sofyan tidak 
menyebutkan nama-nama bank target tersebut.

Jika berdasarkan kajian strategis yang telah dilakukan tersebut dinilai layak 
dan dapat memberikan hasil yang terbaik, maka BRI akan melakukan corporate 
action yang sesuai dengan ketentuan yang berlaku serta berupaya untuk 
mendapatkan persetujuan dari para pemegang saham dalam RUPS.

Berdasarkan data StockWatch, BBRI melemah sebesar Rp25 pada penutupan pasar 
hari ini menjadi Rp4.750 per saham dengan volume perdagangan 33.360 lot senilai 
total Rp79,423 miliar. (abr)
 
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[obrolan-bandar] Rinaldi Firmansyah Dirut Baru Telkom

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik Joe Grunk
 Rinaldi Firmansyah Dirut Baru Telkom 
-
 
 Rabu, 28 Februari 2007 18:38:04
 StockWatch (Jakarta) - Rinaldi Firmansyah yang sebelumnya menjabat Direktur 
Keuangan PT Telkom Tbk (TLKM) diangkat menjadi direktur utama (dirut) yang baru 
menggantikan Arwin Rasyid.

Demikian hasil keputusan RUPSLB Telkom, Rabu (28/2), setelah pemerintah selaku 
pemegang saham seri A dan saham mayoritas sebesar 51,19% mengusulkan nama-nama 
direksi yang baru.

Dalam RUPSLB tersebut, sebanyak empat direksi lama mengajukan pengunduran diri. 
Mereka adalah Arwin Rasyid, Garuda Sugardo, John Welly, Guntur Siregar.

Adapun komposisi direksi Telkom yang baru adalah Rinaldi Firmansyah sebagai 
Direktur Utama, I Nyoman GW selaku Direktur Network and Solution menggantikan 
Abdul Harris, dan Faisal Syah selaku Direktur SDM menggantikan John Welly.

Bersamaan dengan itu, Ermadi Dahlan diangkat menjadi Direktur Konsumer 
menggantikan Guntur Siregar dan Sudiro Asno sebagai Direktur Keuangan. 

Selain itu juga diangkat pula Indra Utoyo sebagai Chief Information and 
Technology dan Prasetio selaku Compliance and Risk Management Director. (sup)

 
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[obrolan-bandar] RUPSLB Tolak Rencana EMSOP Telkom

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik Joe Grunk
RUPSLB Tolak Rencana EMSOP Telkom 
-
 
 Rabu, 28 Februari 2007 17:47:51
 StockWatch (Jakarta) - Para pemegang saham PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia Tbk 
(Telkom) dalam Rapat Umum Pemegang Saham Luar Biasa (RUPSLB) memutuskan untuk 
tidak menyetujui rencana perseroan melaksanakan penerbitan saham dalam rangka 
management employee stock option plan (EMSOP).

RUPSLB Telkom yang diadakan hari ini (28/2) tidak menyetujui usulan direksi 
yang telah mendapat rekomendasi komisaris untuk menggunakan 51.150.750 lembar 
saham EMSOP dari kata Tanri Abeng, Komisaris Utama Telkom. 

Sebelumnya, direksi mengusulkan rencana penerbitan EMSOP dengan jumlah hak opsi 
yang diterbitkan sebanyak 51.150.750 lembar dengan masa lima tahun sejak opsi 
diterbitkan. EMSOP tersebut diusulkan dengan menggunakan saham dari hasil 
pembelian kembali saham (share buyback).

Rencananya, saham EMSOP tersebut akan diterbitkan dalam dua tahap, yakni tahap 
pertama sebanyak 45.991.500 lembar dan sisanya pada tahap kedua.

Selain itu juga dilaporkan bahwa hingga 27 Februari 2007 perseroan telah 
merealisasikan pembelian kembali (buy back) saham sebanyak 166.665.500 lembar 
atau sekitar 16,53% dari total maksimal yang diijinkan.

Sementara dalam RUPSLB hari ini disetjui perpanjangan masa jabatan komisaris 
Telkom dari tiga menjadi lima tahun hingga Maret 2009, sehingga komposisi 
komisaris Telkom terdiri dari Tanri Abeng selaku Komisaris Utama dan Anggito 
Abimanyu dan Gatot Trihargo selaku komisaris serta Arif Arryman dan P Sartono 
sebagai komisaris independen. (sup)
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: market strikes back on shanghai noon

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik Odink
amin, mbah.. moga2 kita semua gak cuma sekedar survive tapi juga develop  
capital di bej. index ke 5000 msh memungkinkan, dan semuanya senang..  
daripada index dibanting ke 1550 hehee.. pasti bakal banyak yg kapok  
dagang di bej.

trading di bej bikin awet muda, krn si boss selalu penuh improvisasi..  
student of market mau ngga mau harus belajar terus ama mr market.
hari ini falling window, tapi berupa big white candle.. menarik untuk  
disimak kelanjutannya.
GBU

On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:15:22 +0700, jsx_consultant  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dalam keadaan HECTIC begini, anda masih tetap RASIONIL dan
 COOL 

 VETERAN never dies in the market unless dipangil yg
 diatas... hehehe

 Semoga panjang umur dan hokienya berlimpah ditahun BABI yang
 banyak guyuran air hujan (katanya banyak rezekinya). Jadi meskipun
 DIGEBUK ama BOZZ pagi ini, malah untung

 Mudah mudahan GUYURAN siBOZZ pagi ini (TANPA BARANG !!!)
 adalah angpao dari siBOZZ sebagai 'TANDA' awal dari BABI BASAH
 yang penuh dengan keberuntungan semoga


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[obrolan-bandar] udah bulan maret nih

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik herman ardiyanto
Grafik2 pada menarik, Dow + so far, pengumuman bej: lapkeu auto, aali,
bnli biasa aja. Tapi ada berita sswj, selain pipa paralel pagardewa
labuhan maringgai, semua otre2 saja.

Selain PGAS, yang berkaitan apa nih? KIJA?

SMRA kemaren menjulang sendirian napa ya? Volume biasa, frekuensi
tipis, mana abis banjir. Properti udah lama nih nggak gerak. CTRA
memble abis. KIJA angat2 tahi ayam.

Kalau laju pembangunan di Cina melambat, dolar melemah, dar der dor
bisa pada turun nih, tapi pemerintah emang mau rupiah kemahalan?...
sektor pertambangan bisa terpukul, perkebunan juga rada nyengir. Apa
tekstil bisa bangkit lagi? POLY dan MYRX bikin keributan sendiri.

bulan baru, harapan, kepusingan, dan portofolio baru (yang daytrader
sih ganti saban hari ya)


[obrolan-bandar] Tome To Buy? Saya kira artikel dibawah ini berlaku juga terhadap IHSG

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik Soeratman Doerachman
Artikel New Yorlk Times ini sangat bagus untuk mereka yg belum mengetahui
strategi yang dimaksud. Coba bandingkan dengan IHSG pada waktu-waktu yg
lalau dimana dia jatuh cukup dalam.

 

 

Time to buy?
28 Feb 2007

 

If history is any guide, the recent global equity market bleeding presents
long-term investors with a buying opportunity.

 

Wall Street lives by the adage that investors should buy when there is blood
in the streets. While market players may be a superstitious bunch, in this
case it's a maxim that has been borne out over time. Rather than run from
Tuesday's blood-letting, which saw the Dow sink more than 400 points,
long-term investors may do well to chase what history suggests is a time to
buy

The Dow Jones industrial average was already bouncing back on Wednesday,
making it easier to put the previous day's sell-off in perspective. 

In terms of points, Tuesday's 416-point decline was the steepest the market
has fallen since a nearly 685-point drop on Sept. 17, 2001 - the first day
of trading after the 9/11 attacks. In terms of percent, the Dow's 3.29
percent fall was the largest since Sept. 27, 2002's 3.70 percent retreat. 

Tuesday's point decline is the seventh largest over the last 50 years. (
http://dai.investor.reuters.com/data/files/DJIA.xls Click here for an
Excel sheet of the historical closing values of the Dow.) 



Date

Point Decline


Period 1: Sept. 17 2001

-684.81 


Period 2: Apr. 14 2000

-617.78 


Period 3: Oct. 27 1997

-554.26 


Period 4: Aug. 31 1998

-512.61


Period 5: Oct. 19 1987

-507.99


Period 6: Mar. 12 2001

-436.37


Period 7: Feb. 27 2007

-416.02


 

Remember, though, that the Dow has been near an all-time high, so the
percent decline is not nearly as bad given the magnitude of the point fall.
In fact, over the last 50 years, there were 33 worse trading days in terms
of percentage declines. 

The question we need to answer is what we can expect for the markets going
forward? 

While past performance is no guarantee of future returns, we can still look
at history as our guide. 

We focused on the six larger point declines over the last 50 years and
examined the performance of the Dow during the one-month and one-year
periods that followed the drop. In the event that the market was closed
exactly one month or one year ahead, we looked at the next trading day. We
found that, on average, the Dow posted solid returns. 

First, notice that the Dow has generally been higher one month after one of
these sell-offs, with an average gain of more than 4 percent. 



 


1 Month Performance

Starting Value

Ending Value

Percent Change


Period 1: Sept. 17 2001 - Oct. 17 2001

8920.70

9232.97

3.50%


Period 2: Apr. 14 2000 - May 15 2000

10305.77

10807.78

4.87%


Period 3: Oct. 27 1997 - Nov. 28 1997

7161.15

7823.13

9.24%


Period 4: Aug. 31 1998 - Oct. 1 1998

7539.07

7632.53

1.24%


Period 5: Oct. 19 1987 - Nov. 19 1987

1738.74

1895.39

9.01%


Period 6: Mar. 12 2001 - Apr. 12 2001

10208.25

10126.94

-0.80%


Average

NA

NA

4.51%


 

Keep in mind that investing is a long-term process and investors who have
stuck it out longer have usually fared well: The Dow has returned, on
average, about 12 percent in the year following these six other sell-offs. 



 


1 Year Performance

Starting Value

Ending Value

Percent Change


Period 1: Sept. 17 2001 - Sept. 17 2002

8920.70

8207.55

-7.99%


Period 2: Apr. 14 2000 - Apr. 16 2001

10305.77

10158.56

-1.43%


Period 3: Oct. 27 1997 - Oct. 27 1998

7161.15

8366.04

10.97%


Period 4: Aug. 31 1998 - Aug. 31 1999

7539.07

10829.28

43.64%


Period 5: Oct. 19 1987 - Oct. 19 1988

1738.74

2137.27

22.92%


Period 6: Mar. 12 2001 - Mar. 12 2002

10208.25

10632.35

4.15%


Average

NA

NA

12.04%


 

Again, there is nothing to say that the Dow will be higher one month or even
one year from now. There are many factors that suggest easing economic
growth, such as Wednesday's
http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv/idUSN2742022620070228 downward
revision in GDP figures, which could adversely impact stock prices. But
history suggests that investors may want to take advantage of the lower
stock prices to add positions they've had their eye on. Blood-letting may be
scary, but it can be good. 

At the time of publication, Erik Dellith did not directly own shares of any
company mentioned in this article. He may be an owner, albeit indirectly, as
an investor in a mutual fund or an Exchange Traded Fund. 

 

 

Ratman

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[obrolan-bandar] China batuk yang lain ikut demam

2007-02-28 Terurut Topik Soeratman Doerachman
Sekarang bukan DOW saja yang penyakitnya bisa menular. China kentut pun
baunya sekarang bisa sampai kemana-mana.  Kta bisa baca dalam artikel
dibawah  ini bagaimana DOW sempat terkapar karena bau kentutnya Shanghai.

Kesimpulan : Watch juga China, jangan DOW dan Nikkei saja.

 

 

China Coughs and the World Catches a Cold 

By D.R. Barton, Jr. 

Yesterday (Tuesday, 2/27/2007) was a truly extraordinary day in the equity
markets.

Here's how unusual this drop was: it's only the fifth time in 100 years that
the DJIA has gone from trading above its 50-day moving average on one day to
dropping below the lows of the past 50 days the next.  In other words, it
was higher than the average price over the prior 50 days, and all of the
sudden it wiped out all the gains from those days in just one single day
(thanks to Jason Goepfert's excellent work for the statistics).

Here's another way to look at yesterday's trading - in one day, the market
wiped out almost four months of bull run, dating back to the beginning of
last November (in the futures).  This was no ordinary move.

But even with all of the extremes presented by the market's activity, we
have to keep some perspective. The market was only down 3.47% yesterday (for
the SP 500 cash index).  And to be considered a correction (which is
generally considered to be a 10% pullback), we would need to travel another
6% from here, all the way down to 1315.41 to move 10% from the highs.

Today's trading (as of 2:00) has given us an inside day (the highs of today
are lower and lows of today are higher than yesterday's trading).  But we
are trading in the bottom third of yesterday's range.

While the market could do many things from here, the extreme overbought
levels that peaked late last week have only been partially relieved.  A very
likely scenario is that Tuesday's huge drop was the trigger for a
larger-scale pullback.  In that scenario, Wednesday's trading has
predictably slower trading while the market catches it's breath.

A close below yesterday's low (1389.42 on the SP 500 cash index) should
make everyone take notice that this round of selling is not over.  But until
that time, the bulls can rest a bit easier.

Great Trading!

D. R.

 

D. R. Barton, Jr. will be teaching our New Professional E-Mini Futures
Tactics Workshop, March 3-5, Raleigh NC.  He will be joined by ace trader
Christopher Castroviejo. To see what D.R. says about Christopher, click
http://www.iitm.com/Weekly_update/Weekly_307_Jan_31_2007.htm#feature
here.

A passion for the systematic approach to the markets and lifelong love of
teaching and learning have propelled D.R. Barton, Jr. to the top of the
investment and trading arena where he is one of the most widely read and
followed traders and analysts in the world. 

He is a regularly featured guest analyst on both Report on Business TV,  and
WTOP News Radio in Washington, D. C., and has been a guest analyst on
Bloomberg Radio.  His articles have appeared on SmartMoney.com and Financial
Advisor magazine.

 

 

Ratman

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