Re: [obrolan-bandar] CORNERING Today ?....Re: Ikut EL mudik aja .... (A Reminder)
betul Pak, banyak cara copet beraksi (umumnya di kendaraan umum). berikut cara2 copet beraksi didalam bis (sumber: www.copetbis.com): injek kaki penumpang, menghimpit penumpang, dorong2 penumpang, menghalangi penumpang yg turun dipintu keluar, bikin keributan di bis (penumpang jadi panik lupa ama barang-nya), dsb, tapi ngak ada satupun copet bilang permisi kepenumpang kalo dia mo nyopet. salam, AR On 9/25/08, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Memang teknik physchological mass herding pak Oen hebat Mbah! Terbukti berkali-kali...masa iya pencopet bilang2 ke mangsanya kalo mau nyopet? hehehe 2008/9/25 jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] IHSG -20... Pak Oentoeng sebentar lagi bikin postingan pentung... EL lagi duduk MANIS sambil ngomong: - OMG, Don't you understand what i am doing (unsubscribe dari milis) ? LOL --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Hendra Susanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sektor Mining pelan2 merah, tapi INDEX tidak turun. . *Distribusinya pelan-pelan, tidak terdeteksi... BANDAR EMANK MANTAP.. Tapi mbah lebih mantap lagi karena bisa baca rencana bandar.. * 2008/9/25 jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] PTBA kemarin dinaekin buat mancing orang beli BUMI pake BUMBU2 BERITA... BERITA market ITU ada segudang dikantong para BD, tinggal mau ngeluarin berita yg mana aja MAUNYA BD... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- consultant@ wrote: Embah repost tulisan ttg BUMI dan PTBA... Berita sih bisa diatur Market/Stock News itu ada WAREHOUSEnya, dan dikeluarin pada saat DIPERLUKAN... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- consultant@ wrote: BUMI itu LIKWIDITASnya puluhan kali lebih banyak dari PTBA... Jadi ketika BUMI mau dijual, BUMI dibuat menarik dengan mengangkat harga saham PTBA (INI adalah FAKTA bukan perkiraan). Jadi kalo PTBA naik, BUMI seringkali lagi distribusi. Sesudah BUMI nya turun, baru PTBA nya JATOH. Jadi wajar aja kalo PTBA jatuhnya engga sedalam PTBA. Tapi kalo BUMI mau dibeli balik, kemungkinan PTBA malah diturunin hari itu... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, Tommy Jayamudita jayamudita@ wrote: Apakah berita ini yang menjadi penyebab PTBA ditarik? Rencana pembentukan perusahaan patungan antara PTBA dan Trans Pacific dan China Railway diperkirakan akan rampung pada kuartal ke-4 2008. Perusahaan ini akan menbangun jalur khusus angkutan batubara dari lokasi tambang PTBA di Tanjung Enim, Sumsel ke Lampung sepanjang 308km. (IPOT) - Original Message - From: jsx_consultant To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:00 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] CORNERING Today ?Re: Ikut EL mudik aja (A Reminder) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, Prasetyo, Hani Hani.Prasetyo@ wrote: Onde mande Artinya apa Mbah? mmm apa pentungannya diam2 dulu baru digebrak pake PALU GODAM ? Kemarin Oil trader shorter di CORNER dengan mengangkat minyak ke 130 pada hari terakhir oil future contract penyerahan November. Karena T+3 besok akan jatuh sesudah libur, bandar juga akan berusaha meng CORNER margin trader. Saham saham yg LIKWID dan di DANA MARGINnya gede seperti BUMI dan LSIP terlihat sebagai OBJECT corner... Makanya jangan heran kalo BUMI -4,5% dan PTBA +3,5% saat ini (ini kan sectornya sama yaitu Coal). Pokonya saham saham yg sering dipake MARGIN ama trader kemungkinan akan di CORNER hari ini... Sedang saham saham yg engga likwid diangkat supaya IHSG nampak cantik !!!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] CORNERING Today ?....Re: Ikut EL mudik aja .... (A Reminder)
Tuh...cocok kan? ;-) huehehe 2008/9/25 Adam Rajsha [EMAIL PROTECTED] betul Pak, banyak cara copet beraksi (umumnya di kendaraan umum). berikut cara2 copet beraksi didalam bis (sumber: www.copetbis.com): injek kaki penumpang, menghimpit penumpang, dorong2 penumpang, menghalangi penumpang yg turun dipintu keluar, bikin keributan di bis (penumpang jadi panik lupa ama barang-nya), dsb, tapi ngak ada satupun copet bilang permisi kepenumpang kalo dia mo nyopet. salam, AR On 9/25/08, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Memang teknik physchological mass herding pak Oen hebat Mbah! Terbukti berkali-kali...masa iya pencopet bilang2 ke mangsanya kalo mau nyopet? hehehe 2008/9/25 jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] IHSG -20... Pak Oentoeng sebentar lagi bikin postingan pentung... EL lagi duduk MANIS sambil ngomong: - OMG, Don't you understand what i am doing (unsubscribe dari milis) ? LOL --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Hendra Susanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sektor Mining pelan2 merah, tapi INDEX tidak turun. . *Distribusinya pelan-pelan, tidak terdeteksi... BANDAR EMANK MANTAP.. Tapi mbah lebih mantap lagi karena bisa baca rencana bandar.. * 2008/9/25 jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] PTBA kemarin dinaekin buat mancing orang beli BUMI pake BUMBU2 BERITA... BERITA market ITU ada segudang dikantong para BD, tinggal mau ngeluarin berita yg mana aja MAUNYA BD... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- consultant@ wrote: Embah repost tulisan ttg BUMI dan PTBA... Berita sih bisa diatur Market/Stock News itu ada WAREHOUSEnya, dan dikeluarin pada saat DIPERLUKAN... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- consultant@ wrote: BUMI itu LIKWIDITASnya puluhan kali lebih banyak dari PTBA... Jadi ketika BUMI mau dijual, BUMI dibuat menarik dengan mengangkat harga saham PTBA (INI adalah FAKTA bukan perkiraan). Jadi kalo PTBA naik, BUMI seringkali lagi distribusi. Sesudah BUMI nya turun, baru PTBA nya JATOH. Jadi wajar aja kalo PTBA jatuhnya engga sedalam PTBA. Tapi kalo BUMI mau dibeli balik, kemungkinan PTBA malah diturunin hari itu... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, Tommy Jayamudita jayamudita@ wrote: Apakah berita ini yang menjadi penyebab PTBA ditarik? Rencana pembentukan perusahaan patungan antara PTBA dan Trans Pacific dan China Railway diperkirakan akan rampung pada kuartal ke-4 2008. Perusahaan ini akan menbangun jalur khusus angkutan batubara dari lokasi tambang PTBA di Tanjung Enim, Sumsel ke Lampung sepanjang 308km. (IPOT) - Original Message - From: jsx_consultant To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:00 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] CORNERING Today ?Re: Ikut EL mudik aja (A Reminder) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, Prasetyo, Hani Hani.Prasetyo@ wrote: Onde mande Artinya apa Mbah? mmm apa pentungannya diam2 dulu baru digebrak pake PALU GODAM ? Kemarin Oil trader shorter di CORNER dengan mengangkat minyak ke 130 pada hari terakhir oil future contract penyerahan November. Karena T+3 besok akan jatuh sesudah libur, bandar juga akan berusaha meng CORNER margin trader. Saham saham yg LIKWID dan di DANA MARGINnya gede seperti BUMI dan LSIP terlihat sebagai OBJECT corner... Makanya jangan heran kalo BUMI -4,5% dan PTBA +3,5% saat ini (ini kan sectornya sama yaitu Coal). Pokonya saham saham yg sering dipake MARGIN ama trader kemungkinan akan di CORNER hari ini... Sedang saham saham yg engga likwid diangkat supaya IHSG nampak cantik !!!
Trs: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB mau AR ??
Sapa tahu justru reverse phycology bandar ... Biar dikira salah, makanya di tarus di koran ngaco itu ... hehehehe ... Biar pada ketinggalan para retailer. Disclaimer: Saya tidak tahu agenda Bandar. Kalau menurut itungan DCF maupun PE Bego-begoan, harga FA ada di sekitar 290 (TP). Itungan PE Bego-begoan: Next-3Yr EPS-G 30% (EPS growth 3 tahun kedepan) Next-3Yr Div Yield 0% (Dividen Yield 3 tahun kedepan) EPS Y-0 46 (Proyeksi EPS 2008) EPS Y-3 101.1 (EPS 3-thn kedepan/2011) PE Y-3 10.1(PE tahun ke-3/Konservatif mempertingbangkan Financial Business Risk etc.) Price Y-3 1,017.3 (Harga thn ke-3 = PE Y3 * EPS Y3) Fair-Y-0588.7 (Harga today dengan 20% Return/Year) TP-Y-0 295(Margin of Safety 100%) Act Price Y-0 165 Upside Potential257% Disclaimer-2: Itungan diatas berasumsi manajemennya jujur, tidak suka tepu2 proyek. Disclaimer-3: Rekor itungan FA pake metode PE bego-begoan 2 tahun belakangan: 55% Bener/mendekati bener, 45% Ngaco/mendekati Ngaco ... he3 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, freez z [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rumor di invetor daily 90% salah, setuju?? --- On Wed, 9/24/08, Gimarfa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Gimarfa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Trs: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB mau AR ?? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 9:09 PM TRUB lgi rame karena ada rumor investor tiongkok minatin TRUB di hrg 310 (investorindonesia) , eh blm nyampe 200 aja udh pd jual... klihatannya bgian dari strategi Om Bandarz.. jd bole ikutan buy trub g ya???
Re: Trs: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB mau AR ??
Hari ini kemungkinan besar close 160 2008/9/25 Gimarfa [EMAIL PROTECTED] TRUB lgi rame karena ada rumor investor tiongkok minatin TRUB di hrg 310 (investorindonesia), eh blm nyampe 200 aja udh pd jual... klihatannya bgian dari strategi Om Bandarz.. jd bole ikutan buy trub g ya???
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB mau AR ??
Saat ini PF sudah jual 279.389 lot ( net) jadi kurang 21000 lot Lalu b 2008/9/25 Spekulan Saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Menurut perhitungan PF masih memegang 120.000 lot lagi setelah hari ini melepas 180.000 lot ( dibeli sewaktu IPO ). Angka tsb diluar klo dia ada Konversi dr waran. Klo sdh habis maka TRUB akan terbang.. --- Pada *Kam, 25/9/08, Giemar Fa [EMAIL PROTECTED]* menulis: Dari: Giemar Fa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB mau AR ?? Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Kamis, 25 September, 2008, 10:38 AM PF beli ama calo mngkn. kan lge musim calo. - Original Message From: Effendy Kho [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 10:19:40 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB mau AR ?? Wah kalau bisa sampai 90% salah artinya luar biasa tepat, tinggal beli kebalikannya saja kan? Yg susah itu 50% benar/salah. Salam, Ase™ -- Linuxindo Total Solusi, PT www.Linuxindo. com -- *From*: freez z [EMAIL PROTECTED] com *Date*: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:01:48 -0700 (PDT) *To*: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB mau AR ?? Hati2 dengan trub , hari ini trub muncul di rumor investor daily.Biasanya saham yang muncul rumor, sorehnya akan di turunin. Seperti yang kita ke tahui rumor di investor daily 90% salah.. --- On *Wed 9/24/08, t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.id* wrote: From: t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.id Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB mau AR ?? To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 6:53 PM --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Lindt linda_syarif@ ... wrote: Belinya di tempat lain munkynn. .. Sent from my BlackBerry(R) powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: TJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:33:57 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB mau AR ?? saya lihat di data seluruh transaksi saham TRUB dari 1 januari 04 sd 25 sept 08 hasilnya adalah: PF buy 523.513 avg 860,41 sell 1.178.425 avg 388,49 (sumber dari etrading) pertanyaannya. .. kok bisa PF jual barang lebih besar dari buy??? apakah PF dapat saham dari pasar non reguler? apakah pasar tunai dan negotiated tidak termasuk dalam perhitungan perolehan saham setiap hari? saya coba mundur sampai dengan tahun 2002, datanya sama. berarti sebleum tahun 2004 tidak ada transaksi. mohon pencerahannya pak t_bum. SIP : TBUMI Beli dan jual bisa di berbagai sekuritas yang tak sama. Tak usah pusing hitungi sekuritas mana pegang TRUB terbanyak baik beli atau jual. -- Yahoo! Toolbar kini dilengkapi Anti-Virus dan Anti-Adware gratis. Download Yahoo! Toolbar sekarang . http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/search/toolbar/mail/signature/*http://id.toolbar.yahoo.com/
Trs: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB mau AR ??
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Herman Tobing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hari ini kemungkinan besar close 160 SIP : TBUMI Sopir TRUB berusaha membawa arus mudik penumpang di harga Rp. 200 sebelum libur lebaran ini.
Re: Trs: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB mau AR ??
karena beli-nya 160 ya pak ? Sama dong. huahahaha On 9/25/08, Herman Tobing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hari ini kemungkinan besar close 160 2008/9/25 Gimarfa [EMAIL PROTECTED] TRUB lgi rame karena ada rumor investor tiongkok minatin TRUB di hrg 310 (investorindonesia), eh blm nyampe 200 aja udh pd jual... klihatannya bgian dari strategi Om Bandarz.. jd bole ikutan buy trub g ya???
[obrolan-bandar] Re: MA 50 MA 200 --- DISTRIBUTION PHASE
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, raimon_c14 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maaf. kalo masih mau nanya istilah2 yg agak g ngerti hehe3x maksdunya pentungan apa y? BC ? BD ? Distribution phase? sama maksudnya artinya Saham yg LIKWID lagi DIBAGI dengan umpan saham yg ENGGA LIKWID !!! lagi dibagi? artinya berpotensi naek atau lagi dijual besar2an? atow? Trim's yang bersedia menjawab.. ^^ PENTUNGAN : Pukulan terhadap INDEX , biasa digunakan untuk turun index, BIASANYA kalau index udah turun dalam, pak OENTOENG keluarin postingan HOROR lagi. dan biasnaya tepat (index turun makin dalam) BC = CLUE CHIP = saham2 unggulan seperti TLKM, UNVR, BBCA, BMRI, BUMI dan biasnya masuk ke LQ45 BD = Bandar = orang yang punya uang banyak atau info banyak sehingga bisa mengendalikan harga pasar Distribusi = BANDAR jualan. Saham yg LIKWID lagi DIBAGI dengan umpan saham yg ENGGA LIKWID !!! Misal layar IJO , maka psikologis akan makin OPTMIS sehingga reteiler pada ikutan beli = BANDAR jualan dengan manfaatkan kesalah psikologis. BIASANYA setelah distibusi / dalam fase distribusi harga sulit naik. kalau AKUMULSI harga cenderung ditekan, tapi setelah AKUMULASI harga naik kencang MBAH yang lebih tau, silahkan berikan penjelasan...
Re: [obrolan-bandar] CORNERING Today ?....Re: Ikut EL mudik aja .... (A Reminder)
url nya gak bisa dibuka pak... polos.com On 09/25/2008 1:02 PM, Adam Rajsha wrote: betul Pak, banyak cara copet beraksi (umumnya di kendaraan umum). berikut cara2 copet beraksi didalam bis (sumber: www.copetbis.com): injek kaki penumpang, menghimpit penumpang, dorong2 penumpang, menghalangi penumpang yg turun dipintu keluar, bikin keributan di bis (penumpang jadi panik lupa ama barang-nya), dsb, tapi ngak ada satupun copet bilang permisi kepenumpang kalo dia mo nyopet.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] CORNERING Today ?....Re: Ikut EL mudik aja .... (A Reminder)
Pak Adam ini hebat betul, tau persis modus copet? Asal jangan pengalaman ya Pak :P 2008/9/25 Adam Rajsha [EMAIL PROTECTED]: betul Pak, banyak cara copet beraksi (umumnya di kendaraan umum). berikut cara2 copet beraksi didalam bis (sumber: www.copetbis.com): injek kaki penumpang, menghimpit penumpang, dorong2 penumpang, menghalangi penumpang yg turun dipintu keluar, bikin keributan di bis (penumpang jadi panik lupa ama barang-nya), dsb, tapi ngak ada satupun copet bilang permisi kepenumpang kalo dia mo nyopet. salam, AR On 9/25/08, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Memang teknik physchological mass herding pak Oen hebat Mbah! Terbukti berkali-kali...masa iya pencopet bilang2 ke mangsanya kalo mau nyopet? hehehe 2008/9/25 jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] IHSG -20... Pak Oentoeng sebentar lagi bikin postingan pentung... EL lagi duduk MANIS sambil ngomong: - OMG, Don't you understand what i am doing (unsubscribe dari milis) ? LOL --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Hendra Susanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sektor Mining pelan2 merah, tapi INDEX tidak turun. . *Distribusinya pelan-pelan, tidak terdeteksi... BANDAR EMANK MANTAP.. Tapi mbah lebih mantap lagi karena bisa baca rencana bandar.. * 2008/9/25 jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] PTBA kemarin dinaekin buat mancing orang beli BUMI pake BUMBU2 BERITA... BERITA market ITU ada segudang dikantong para BD, tinggal mau ngeluarin berita yg mana aja MAUNYA BD... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- consultant@ wrote: Embah repost tulisan ttg BUMI dan PTBA... Berita sih bisa diatur Market/Stock News itu ada WAREHOUSEnya, dan dikeluarin pada saat DIPERLUKAN... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- consultant@ wrote: BUMI itu LIKWIDITASnya puluhan kali lebih banyak dari PTBA... Jadi ketika BUMI mau dijual, BUMI dibuat menarik dengan mengangkat harga saham PTBA (INI adalah FAKTA bukan perkiraan). Jadi kalo PTBA naik, BUMI seringkali lagi distribusi. Sesudah BUMI nya turun, baru PTBA nya JATOH. Jadi wajar aja kalo PTBA jatuhnya engga sedalam PTBA. Tapi kalo BUMI mau dibeli balik, kemungkinan PTBA malah diturunin hari itu... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, Tommy Jayamudita jayamudita@ wrote: Apakah berita ini yang menjadi penyebab PTBA ditarik? Rencana pembentukan perusahaan patungan antara PTBA dan Trans Pacific dan China Railway diperkirakan akan rampung pada kuartal ke-4 2008. Perusahaan ini akan menbangun jalur khusus angkutan batubara dari lokasi tambang PTBA di Tanjung Enim, Sumsel ke Lampung sepanjang 308km. (IPOT) - Original Message - From: jsx_consultant To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:00 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] CORNERING Today ?Re: Ikut EL mudik aja (A Reminder) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, Prasetyo, Hani Hani.Prasetyo@ wrote: Onde mande Artinya apa Mbah? mmm apa pentungannya diam2 dulu baru digebrak pake PALU GODAM ? Kemarin Oil trader shorter di CORNER dengan mengangkat minyak ke 130 pada hari terakhir oil future contract penyerahan November. Karena T+3 besok akan jatuh sesudah libur, bandar juga akan berusaha meng CORNER margin trader. Saham saham yg LIKWID dan di DANA MARGINnya gede seperti BUMI dan LSIP terlihat sebagai OBJECT corner... Makanya jangan heran kalo BUMI -4,5% dan PTBA +3,5% saat ini (ini kan sectornya sama yaitu Coal). Pokonya saham saham yg sering dipake MARGIN ama trader kemungkinan akan di CORNER hari ini... Sedang saham saham yg engga likwid diangkat supaya IHSG nampak cantik !!!
Re: Trs: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB mau AR ??
tapi menurut ramalan saya hrga nya malah di atas 160.. karena kya nya gorengan nya kematangan tuhwakakaka - Original Message From: Andrian Siagian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 1:44:57 PM Subject: Re: Trs: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB mau AR ?? karena beli-nya 160 ya pak ? Sama dong. huahahaha On 9/25/08, Herman Tobing herman.tobing@ gmail.com wrote: Hari ini kemungkinan besar close 160 2008/9/25 Gimarfa [EMAIL PROTECTED] com TRUB lgi rame karena ada rumor investor tiongkok minatin TRUB di hrg 310 (investorindonesia) , eh blm nyampe 200 aja udh pd jual... klihatannya bgian dari strategi Om Bandarz.. jd bole ikutan buy trub g ya???
Re: Trs: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB mau AR ??
Tahu aja, mungkin sudah ada bocoran LK Q2 yang sedang diaudit 2008/9/25 Andrian Siagian [EMAIL PROTECTED] karena beli-nya 160 ya pak ? Sama dong. huahahaha On 9/25/08, Herman Tobing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hari ini kemungkinan besar close 160 2008/9/25 Gimarfa [EMAIL PROTECTED] TRUB lgi rame karena ada rumor investor tiongkok minatin TRUB di hrg 310 (investorindonesia), eh blm nyampe 200 aja udh pd jual... klihatannya bgian dari strategi Om Bandarz.. jd bole ikutan buy trub g ya???
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Nanya E-Trading
Pak Freez, numpang tanya apakah kalau pakai sekuritas juga ada kemungkinan mereka ngabur membawa uang kita ? seperti kalau main forex? Thx --- On Thu, 9/25/08, freez z [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: freez z [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Nanya E-Trading To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 5:27 AM kalau mau tarik dana gampang, tinggal klik. cuma ga amannya takut sekuritasnya kabur dan uang sering hilang. --- On Wed, 9/24/08, STANISLAUS70 STANISLAUS70 stanislaus70@ yahoo.com wrote: From: STANISLAUS70 STANISLAUS70 stanislaus70@ yahoo.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Nanya E-Trading To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 9:31 PM Rekan2, Mohon mengenai E-Trading gitu aman ngak ya? Kalo mau tarik dana kita problem ngak? Thanks Stanis70 Nama baru untuk Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB mau AR ??
PF sudah net sale 304000 lot, pelurunya masih ada (pinjem kali). 2008/9/25 Herman Tobing [EMAIL PROTECTED] Saat ini PF sudah jual 279.389 lot ( net) jadi kurang 21000 lot Lalu b 2008/9/25 Spekulan Saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Menurut perhitungan PF masih memegang 120.000 lot lagi setelah hari ini melepas 180.000 lot ( dibeli sewaktu IPO ). Angka tsb diluar klo dia ada Konversi dr waran. Klo sdh habis maka TRUB akan terbang.. --- Pada *Kam, 25/9/08, Giemar Fa [EMAIL PROTECTED]* menulis: Dari: Giemar Fa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB mau AR ?? Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Kamis, 25 September, 2008, 10:38 AM PF beli ama calo mngkn. kan lge musim calo. - Original Message From: Effendy Kho [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 10:19:40 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB mau AR ?? Wah kalau bisa sampai 90% salah artinya luar biasa tepat, tinggal beli kebalikannya saja kan? Yg susah itu 50% benar/salah. Salam, Ase™ -- Linuxindo Total Solusi, PT www.Linuxindo. com -- *From*: freez z [EMAIL PROTECTED] com *Date*: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:01:48 -0700 (PDT) *To*: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB mau AR ?? Hati2 dengan trub , hari ini trub muncul di rumor investor daily.Biasanya saham yang muncul rumor, sorehnya akan di turunin. Seperti yang kita ke tahui rumor di investor daily 90% salah.. --- On *Wed 9/24/08, t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.id* wrote: From: t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.id Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB mau AR ?? To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 6:53 PM --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Lindt linda_syarif@ ... wrote: Belinya di tempat lain munkynn. .. Sent from my BlackBerry(R) powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: TJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:33:57 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB mau AR ?? saya lihat di data seluruh transaksi saham TRUB dari 1 januari 04 sd 25 sept 08 hasilnya adalah: PF buy 523.513 avg 860,41 sell 1.178.425 avg 388,49 (sumber dari etrading) pertanyaannya. .. kok bisa PF jual barang lebih besar dari buy??? apakah PF dapat saham dari pasar non reguler? apakah pasar tunai dan negotiated tidak termasuk dalam perhitungan perolehan saham setiap hari? saya coba mundur sampai dengan tahun 2002, datanya sama. berarti sebleum tahun 2004 tidak ada transaksi. mohon pencerahannya pak t_bum. SIP : TBUMI Beli dan jual bisa di berbagai sekuritas yang tak sama. Tak usah pusing hitungi sekuritas mana pegang TRUB terbanyak baik beli atau jual. -- Yahoo! Toolbar kini dilengkapi Anti-Virus dan Anti-Adware gratis. Download Yahoo! Toolbar sekarang . http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/search/toolbar/mail/signature/*http://id.toolbar.yahoo.com/
[obrolan-bandar] Re: MA 50 MA 200 --- DISTRIBUTION PHASE
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, hendrik_lwww [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kalau AKUMULSI harga cenderung ditekan, tapi setelah AKUMULASI harga naik kencang MBAH yang lebih tau, silahkan berikan penjelasan... Betul Mbah mohon penjelasannya, BUMI harganya cenderung ditekan, ini sedang diakumulasi atau didistribusi mbah? thanks.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB mau AR ??
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Herman Tobing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PF sudah net sale 304000 lot, pelurunya masih ada (pinjem kali). sip : tbumi Peluru mau habis maka pentungan kayu yang dikeluari. Kenaikan TRUB masih akan berlanjut. Harga saham masih murah maka gampang diangkat di market.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MA 50 MA 200 --- DISTRIBUTION PHASE
kalo semua org udah pada siap dengan eMbernya masing2,, pentungan mana mungkin jalan... but any thing can happened.. letssee.. -- An expert with a stone can still beat a novice with a shuriken, nevertheless, an expert with a stone can not beat 100 novices with 100 shurikens...
Re: [obrolan-bandar] CORNERING Today ?....Re: Ikut EL mudik aja .... (A Reminder)
hahaa... engak kok Pak, pengalamannya cuma nyopet di BEI, itu juga sering kena pentungan BOZZ... kemaren aja udah benjol2 karena ngak ngedengerin omongannya Mbah... On 9/25/08, abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak Adam ini hebat betul, tau persis modus copet? Asal jangan pengalaman ya Pak :P 2008/9/25 Adam Rajsha [EMAIL PROTECTED] adam.rajsha%40gmail.com: betul Pak, banyak cara copet beraksi (umumnya di kendaraan umum). berikut cara2 copet beraksi didalam bis (sumber: www.copetbis.com): injek kaki penumpang, menghimpit penumpang, dorong2 penumpang, menghalangi penumpang yg turun dipintu keluar, bikin keributan di bis (penumpang jadi panik lupa ama barang-nya), dsb, tapi ngak ada satupun copet bilang permisi kepenumpang kalo dia mo nyopet. salam, AR On 9/25/08, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] highwaystar91%40gmail.com wrote: Memang teknik physchological mass herding pak Oen hebat Mbah! Terbukti berkali-kali...masa iya pencopet bilang2 ke mangsanya kalo mau nyopet? hehehe 2008/9/25 jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]jsx-consultant%40centrin.net.id IHSG -20... Pak Oentoeng sebentar lagi bikin postingan pentung... EL lagi duduk MANIS sambil ngomong: - OMG, Don't you understand what i am doing (unsubscribe dari milis) ? LOL --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Hendra Susanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sektor Mining pelan2 merah, tapi INDEX tidak turun. . *Distribusinya pelan-pelan, tidak terdeteksi... BANDAR EMANK MANTAP.. Tapi mbah lebih mantap lagi karena bisa baca rencana bandar.. * 2008/9/25 jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] PTBA kemarin dinaekin buat mancing orang beli BUMI pake BUMBU2 BERITA... BERITA market ITU ada segudang dikantong para BD, tinggal mau ngeluarin berita yg mana aja MAUNYA BD... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- consultant@ wrote: Embah repost tulisan ttg BUMI dan PTBA... Berita sih bisa diatur Market/Stock News itu ada WAREHOUSEnya, dan dikeluarin pada saat DIPERLUKAN... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- consultant@ wrote: BUMI itu LIKWIDITASnya puluhan kali lebih banyak dari PTBA... Jadi ketika BUMI mau dijual, BUMI dibuat menarik dengan mengangkat harga saham PTBA (INI adalah FAKTA bukan perkiraan). Jadi kalo PTBA naik, BUMI seringkali lagi distribusi. Sesudah BUMI nya turun, baru PTBA nya JATOH. Jadi wajar aja kalo PTBA jatuhnya engga sedalam PTBA. Tapi kalo BUMI mau dibeli balik, kemungkinan PTBA malah diturunin hari itu... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, Tommy Jayamudita jayamudita@ wrote: Apakah berita ini yang menjadi penyebab PTBA ditarik? Rencana pembentukan perusahaan patungan antara PTBA dan Trans Pacific dan China Railway diperkirakan akan rampung pada kuartal ke-4 2008. Perusahaan ini akan menbangun jalur khusus angkutan batubara dari lokasi tambang PTBA di Tanjung Enim, Sumsel ke Lampung sepanjang 308km. (IPOT) - Original Message - From: jsx_consultant To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:00 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] CORNERING Today ?Re: Ikut EL mudik aja (A Reminder) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, Prasetyo, Hani Hani.Prasetyo@ wrote: Onde mande Artinya apa Mbah? mmm apa pentungannya diam2 dulu baru digebrak pake PALU GODAM ? Kemarin Oil trader shorter di CORNER dengan mengangkat minyak ke 130 pada hari terakhir oil future contract penyerahan November. Karena T+3 besok akan jatuh sesudah libur, bandar juga akan berusaha meng CORNER margin trader. Saham saham yg LIKWID dan di DANA MARGINnya gede seperti BUMI dan LSIP terlihat sebagai OBJECT corner... Makanya jangan heran kalo BUMI -4,5% dan PTBA +3,5% saat ini (ini kan sectornya sama yaitu Coal). Pokonya saham saham yg sering dipake MARGIN ama trader kemungkinan akan di CORNER hari ini... Sedang saham saham yg engga likwid diangkat supaya IHSG nampak cantik !!!
[obrolan-bandar] MInyak ke 80 indeks wasslam kata pak oen ..
kalau kata pak oen, indeks akan ambrol kalau minyak ke 80, tapi sampai sekarang minyak malah naik ke 100 dan sempat ke 120 lalu bolak-balik doang, gitulah cluenya... right??? mohon maaf kalau salah2 kata, met lebaran mo'on maaf lahir dan bathin
[obrolan-bandar] Arah IHSG
Buat yang belum belanja, berdoa semoga kongres USA belum meresponse proposal Bush. Buat yang sudah belanja dan nyangkut, berdoa: semoga kongres USA meresponse nanti malam proposal Bush. Dari informasi yang terkumpul, tampaknya mereka sudah memiliki kesamaan pendapat tentang perlunya tindakan yang cepat. Yang masih menjadi kendala, cara pelaksanaannya gimana? Mau langsung disetujui semua atau bertahap, atau yang lainnya? Apa saja dah, yang penting ada action utk menenangkan pasar yang super panik ini. Nanti malam merupakan awal malam penentuan. ___ Dapatkan nama yang Anda sukai! Sekarang Anda dapat memiliki email di @ymail.com dan @rocketmail.com. http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[obrolan-bandar] Para Ojek Payung pada pulang kampung ga??
Barangkali ada yang perlu ojek payung, gerimis hujan mulai kelihatan... entah jadi banjir bandang atau terbang ke suhu 4000 celcius. Panas atau dingin, payung bisa jadi tempat berlindung. BTW, menurut penelitian, tanah jakarta melesak ke dalam 6 centimeter tiap tahun karena 60% warga jakarta masih menggunakan sumur untuk kebutuhan airnya. Kandungan air turun, kulit jakarta makin keriput. Di kawatirkan dalam 10 tahun mendatang, Jakarta akan menjadi Belanda baru (tanahnya lebih rendah dari laut). Demikianlah kemudian dianjurkan membuat bedengan macam di holland sana. Penduduk miskin yang tinggal di pinggiran kali diharapkan kerelaannya untuk minggir pindah. Bukan kenapa-kenapa, kalo sampe hanyut dilanda banjir kan rugi sendiri. Ini fakta science... bukan bicara bandarisme, apalagi terorisme
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Nanya E-Trading
kemukinan selalu ada tapi kalau sekuritas saham jarang bangeett. --- On Thu, 9/25/08, bon odori [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: bon odori [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Nanya E-Trading To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 12:02 AM Pak Freez, numpang tanya apakah kalau pakai sekuritas juga ada kemungkinan mereka ngabur membawa uang kita ? seperti kalau main forex? Thx --- On Thu, 9/25/08, freez z [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: freez z [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Nanya E-Trading To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 5:27 AM kalau mau tarik dana gampang, tinggal klik. cuma ga amannya takut sekuritasnya kabur dan uang sering hilang. --- On Wed, 9/24/08, STANISLAUS70 STANISLAUS70 stanislaus70@ yahoo.com wrote: From: STANISLAUS70 STANISLAUS70 stanislaus70@ yahoo.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Nanya E-Trading To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 9:31 PM Rekan2, Mohon mengenai E-Trading gitu aman ngak ya? Kalo mau tarik dana kita problem ngak? Thanks Stanis70 Nama baru untuk Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MA 50 MA 200 --- DISTRIBUTION PHASE
kalo besok mbah, udah boleh beli BUMI? tks iban On 9/25/08, golden.health [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, hendrik_lwww [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kalau AKUMULSI harga cenderung ditekan, tapi setelah AKUMULASI harga naik kencang MBAH yang lebih tau, silahkan berikan penjelasan... Betul Mbah mohon penjelasannya, BUMI harganya cenderung ditekan, ini sedang diakumulasi atau didistribusi mbah? thanks.
Re: Trs: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB mau AR ??
ini koq pasarnya jadi sepi. udah pada pulang kali bandarnya ya. 2008/9/25 Giemar Fa [EMAIL PROTECTED] tapi menurut ramalan saya hrga nya malah di atas 160.. karena kya nya gorengan nya kematangan tuhwakakaka - Original Message From: Andrian Siagian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 1:44:57 PM Subject: Re: Trs: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB mau AR ?? karena beli-nya 160 ya pak ? Sama dong. huahahaha On 9/25/08, Herman Tobing herman.tobing@ gmail.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hari ini kemungkinan besar close 160
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MA 50 MA 200 --- DISTRIBUTION PHASE
okay, mana pentungnya?... masa letoy sih? keluarkan pentung yg panjang dan keras ya 2008/9/25 hendrik_lwww [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, raimon_c14 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maaf. kalo masih mau nanya istilah2 yg agak g ngerti hehe3x maksdunya pentungan apa y? BC ? BD ? Distribution phase? sama maksudnya artinya Saham yg LIKWID lagi DIBAGI dengan umpan saham yg ENGGA LIKWID !!! lagi dibagi? artinya berpotensi naek atau lagi dijual besar2an? atow? Trim's yang bersedia menjawab.. ^^ PENTUNGAN : Pukulan terhadap INDEX , biasa digunakan untuk turun index, BIASANYA kalau index udah turun dalam, pak OENTOENG keluarin postingan HOROR lagi. dan biasnaya tepat (index turun makin dalam) BC = CLUE CHIP = saham2 unggulan seperti TLKM, UNVR, BBCA, BMRI, BUMI dan biasnya masuk ke LQ45 BD = Bandar = orang yang punya uang banyak atau info banyak sehingga bisa mengendalikan harga pasar Distribusi = BANDAR jualan. Saham yg LIKWID lagi DIBAGI dengan umpan saham yg ENGGA LIKWID !!! Misal layar IJO , maka psikologis akan makin OPTMIS sehingga reteiler pada ikutan beli = BANDAR jualan dengan manfaatkan kesalah psikologis. BIASANYA setelah distibusi / dalam fase distribusi harga sulit naik. kalau AKUMULSI harga cenderung ditekan, tapi setelah AKUMULASI harga naik kencang MBAH yang lebih tau, silahkan berikan penjelasan...
Re: Trs: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB mau AR ??
Jam ini volume sudah 103 M, rasa-rasanya AR nih .. 2008/9/25 Giemar Fa [EMAIL PROTECTED] tapi menurut ramalan saya hrga nya malah di atas 160.. karena kya nya gorengan nya kematangan tuhwakakaka - Original Message From: Andrian Siagian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 1:44:57 PM Subject: Re: Trs: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB mau AR ?? karena beli-nya 160 ya pak ? Sama dong. huahahaha On 9/25/08, Herman Tobing herman.tobing@ gmail.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hari ini kemungkinan besar close 160 2008/9/25 Gimarfa [EMAIL PROTECTED] com [EMAIL PROTECTED] TRUB lgi rame karena ada rumor investor tiongkok minatin TRUB di hrg 310 (investorindonesia) , eh blm nyampe 200 aja udh pd jual... klihatannya bgian dari strategi Om Bandarz.. jd bole ikutan buy trub g ya???
[obrolan-bandar] Re: MA 50 MA 200 --- DISTRIBUTION PHASE
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, iban lbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kalo besok mbah, udah boleh beli BUMI? tks iban On 9/25/08, golden.health [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, hendrik_lwww hendrik_lwww@ wrote: kalau AKUMULSI harga cenderung ditekan, tapi setelah AKUMULASI harga naik kencang MBAH yang lebih tau, silahkan berikan penjelasan... Betul Mbah mohon penjelasannya, BUMI harganya cenderung ditekan, ini sedang diakumulasi atau didistribusi mbah? thanks. menurt saya sih sebaiknya jauhi bumi karena masih downtrend.. chart : http://dolgado.blogspot.com/2008/09/bumi-update_25.html namun tentu saja kalau mau spekulasi beli ok2 aja, karena biasanya saham downtrend rebound gede n cepat, tapi cepet letoy juga... jadi siap2 CL aja kalau turun terus.. high risk high gain tentunya.
[obrolan-bandar] SeLamAt HaRi RayA AiDiL FitRi
For all traders, investors, shorters, longers, lovers and haters. Many analysis have been read, many events have been shared. Sometimes it's fun but another times it's hurt. I would like to apologize for words I have wrote that may hurt you because as a human I tend to make mistakes. I will take a short break and have vacation with my family (or maybe my future family). I wish you all the best and luck. I will still read your postings and comments if I have time and respond if I see it will be necessary. For all suhu, sifu and masters.. thank you very much for your guidance.
Re: Trs: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB mau AR ??
Santai 'aja, Pak - biar'in 'aja Broker buyer 'ama Broker Seller-nya 'balanced' spt itu... Happy Chuan, Aria Jam ini volume sudah 103 M, rasa-rasanya AR nih .. 2008/9/25 Giemar Fa [EMAIL PROTECTED] tapi menurut ramalan saya hrga nya malah di atas 160.. karena kya nya gorengan nya kematangan tuhwakakaka - Original Message From: Andrian Siagian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 1:44:57 PM Subject: Re: Trs: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB mau AR ?? karena beli-nya 160 ya pak ? Sama dong. huahahaha On 9/25/08, Herman Tobing herman.tobing@ gmail.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hari ini kemungkinan besar close 160 2008/9/25 Gimarfa [EMAIL PROTECTED] com [EMAIL PROTECTED] TRUB lgi rame karena ada rumor investor tiongkok minatin TRUB di hrg 310 (investorindonesia) , eh blm nyampe 200 aja udh pd jual... klihatannya bgian dari strategi Om Bandarz.. jd bole ikutan buy trub g ya???
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Nanya E-Trading - To Pak Freez
Thanks berat bro atas informasinya. Happy trading --- On Thu, 9/25/08, freez z [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: freez z [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Nanya E-Trading To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 7:41 AM kemukinan selalu ada tapi kalau sekuritas saham jarang bangeett. --- On Thu, 9/25/08, bon odori [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: bon odori [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Nanya E-Trading To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 12:02 AM Pak Freez, numpang tanya apakah kalau pakai sekuritas juga ada kemungkinan mereka ngabur membawa uang kita ? seperti kalau main forex? Thx --- On Thu, 9/25/08, freez z [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: freez z [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Nanya E-Trading To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 5:27 AM kalau mau tarik dana gampang, tinggal klik. cuma ga amannya takut sekuritasnya kabur dan uang sering hilang. --- On Wed, 9/24/08, STANISLAUS70 STANISLAUS70 stanislaus70@ yahoo.com wrote: From: STANISLAUS70 STANISLAUS70 stanislaus70@ yahoo.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Nanya E-Trading To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 9:31 PM Rekan2, Mohon mengenai E-Trading gitu aman ngak ya? Kalo mau tarik dana kita problem ngak? Thanks Stanis70 Nama baru untuk Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MA 50 MA 200 --- DISTRIBUTION PHASE
Mbah, kalau bail out plan yang $700 B itu disetujui, (kapan ya?), apakah IHSG ikut naik?, apa masih kena dipentung juga? thanks 2008/9/25 jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bandar itu prinsipnya PROFIT TREND ORIENTED, ketika IHSG 1900 susah ditembus pake BC, dia mulai cari PROFIT yg lain. Saham2 yg engga likwid diangkat supaya mereka bisa jualan di BC. Kalo IHSG bisa nembus 1900 (NEW HIGH), mereka tinggal beli balik BC sambil ngancurin saham yg engga likwid yg lagi dinaekin hari ini... Tapi kalo IHSG bener bener engga bisa tembus 1900 maka market akan SADAR dan MALAH membantu BD mentung IHSG. A simple BANDAR TRADING PLAN --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, conx_2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jika saya menjadi bandar, saya punya barang banyak, trus saya sedang bagi2 selama 2-3 hari ini trus saya pentung kebawah pake sisa barang saya, trus panic selling, trus saya sendiri yg nampung diharga bawah jadi BUMI yg sedang distribusi, kemungkinan akan hit lowestnya tahun ini? seperti pak oen dan el bilang 2500? atau hal seperti ini distribusi, oleh si Lehboy yg harus jual barang2nya di saham2 blue chip, dengan umpan, saham2 non blue chip? mohon petunjukknya --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Iwan.Budi@ wrote: Mbah, Sebenarnya tujuan distribusi itu apa? Mau bikin PENTUNGAN... Bukannya lebih baik kalo distribusi pas lagi diatas, shg tdk 'kelihatan'? Kalo pas lagi gini, enaknya di'apain' saham2 yg lagi didistribusikan ? Member_dengan_wawasan_cekak From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant Sent: Thursday, 25 September 2008 1:14 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MA 50 MA 200 --- DISTRIBUTION PHASE --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%2540yahoogroups.com , dinda trinita dinda.trinita@ wrote: Mbah, Trio metal ANTM, INCO, TINS gimana mbah? Udah boleh masuk?? Saham yg LIKWID lagi DIBAGI dengan umpan saham yg ENGGA LIKWID !!! + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUB mau AR ??
Trub lagi nurunin penumpang , naiknya sekarang agak sopan. 2008/9/25 t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Herman Tobing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PF sudah net sale 304000 lot, pelurunya masih ada (pinjem kali). sip : tbumi Peluru mau habis maka pentungan kayu yang dikeluari. Kenaikan TRUB masih akan berlanjut. Harga saham masih murah maka gampang diangkat di market.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MA 50 MA 200 --- DISTRIBUTION PHASE
Bukannya kalo lagi dibagi tuh biasanya ditarik ke atas mbah, kok yg ini malah dibuang kebawah? bikin orang gak tertarik aja. jsx_consultant wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, dinda trinita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mbah, Trio metal ANTM, INCO, TINS gimana mbah? Udah boleh masuk?? Saham yg LIKWID lagi DIBAGI dengan umpan saham yg ENGGA LIKWID !!! + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
[obrolan-bandar] Deal Close on $700 billion financial bailout plan
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080925/financial_meltdown.html AP Deal close on $700 billion financial bailout plan Thursday September 25, 4:41 am ET By Julie Hirschfeld Davis, Associated Press Writer Compromise close on $700 billion bailout as Bush plans White House summit seeking quick deal WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush is bringing presidential candidates Barack Obama and John McCain into negotiations on a $700 billion rescue of Wall Street as Democrats and Republicans near agreement on a bailout plan with more protections for taxpayers and new help for distressed homeowners. ADVERTISEMENT Senior lawmakers and Bush administration officials have cleared away key obstacles to a deal on the unprecedented rescue, agreeing to include widely supported limits on pay packages for executives whose companies benefit. They're still wrangling over major elements, including how to phase in the eye-popping cost -- a measure demanded by Democrats and some Republicans who want stronger congressional control over the bailout -- without spooking markets. A plan to let the government take an ownership stake in troubled companies as part of the rescue, rather than just buying bad debt, also was under intense negotiation. A bipartisan meeting was set for Thursday to begin drafting a compromise, which top Democrats said they hoped could pass within days. The core of the plan envisions the government buying up sour assets of shaky financial firms in a bid to keep them from going under and to stave off a potentially severe recession. Bush acknowledged in a prime-time television address Wednesday night that the bailout would be a tough vote for lawmakers. But he said failing to approve it would risk dire consequences for the economy and most Americans. Without immediate action by Congress, America could slip into a financial panic, and a distressing scenario would unfold, Bush said as he worked to resurrect the unpopular bailout package. Our entire economy is in danger. Bush's warning came soon after he invited Obama and McCain, one of whom will inherit the economic mess in four months, as well as key congressional leaders to a White House meeting Thursday to work on a compromise. With the administration's original proposal considered dead in Congress, House leaders said they were making progress toward revised legislation that could be approved. Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., who has led negotiations with Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson on the package, said that given the progress of the talks, the White House meeting was a distraction. We're going to have to interrupt a negotiating session tomorrow between the Democrats and Republicans on a bill where I think we are getting pretty close, and troop down to the White House for their photo op, said Frank, the House Financial Services Committee chairman. I wish they'd checked with us. Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke have been crisscrossing Capitol Hill in recent days, shuttling between public hearings on the proposal and private meetings with lawmakers, to sell the proposal. Obama and McCain are calling for a bipartisan effort to deal with the crisis, little more than five weeks before national elections in which the economy has emerged as the dominant theme. The plan that has been submitted to Congress by the Bush administration is flawed, but the effort to protect the American economy must not fail, they said in a joint statement Wednesday night. This is a time to rise above politics for the good of the country. We cannot risk an economic catastrophe. Presidential politics intruded, nonetheless, when McCain said earlier Wednesday he intended to return to Washington and was asking Obama to agree to delay their first debate, scheduled for Friday, to deal with the meltdown. Obama said the debate should go ahead. Lawmakers in both parties have objected strenuously to the rescue plan over the past two days, Republicans complaining about federal intervention in private business and Democrats pressing to tack on more conditions and help for beleaguered homeowners. But many in both parties said they were open to legislation, although on different terms than the White House has proposed. Some partisan sticking points remain. Democrats are pushing to allow bankruptcy judges to rewrite mortgages to ease the burden on consumers who are facing foreclosure -- a nonstarter for Republicans. Democrats acknowledge privately that the provision will almost certainly be dropped in the interest of a bipartisan deal. Obama told reporters it's probably something that we shouldn't try to do in this piece of legislation. Democrats also want any potential proceeds the government reaps from the bailout to go to a fund designed to pay for housing for poor families. Many Republicans oppose the very existence of the fund, which they say is a backdoor means of funneling money to liberal political groups. Democratic
[obrolan-bandar] Lehman's portfolios in Indonesia
Kapan yah barang-barang ini bakal dilepas murah ke pasar? Salam, Cumi, Cuma Mimpi -- Forwarded message -- *Lehman's portfolios in Indonesia, * Lehman Brothers was among foreign creditors for PT Bakrie Brothers (BNBR) Tbk when Bakrie family were struggling to regain control over the company. In fact, Lehman once owned 1.74% shares in BNBR back in 2003. After a brief period of relatively quiet, Lehman returned to major corporate actions in the last few years with Bhakti Group as the main partner. Lehman was also active in Gajah Tunggal Group, Davomas, and Jakarta Setiabudi, and Intikeramik Group. Let's start with Bhakti. On Dec 18, 2007, Lehman Brothers Commercial Corp Asia Ltd provided US$75 million facility to PT MNC Sky Vision (MNCSV) where Global Mediacom (BMTR) controls 51% shares. The 44-month facility carries LIBOR +2% interest, used by MNCSV to expand Indovision's Pay TV business. Collaterals of the facility are: 1) 2.27 billion shares of MNCSV at nominal value of Rp227 billion. 2) Shares in PT Media Citra Indostar owned by PT Datakom Asia at nominal value of Rp68 billion, and 3) 893 million shares of BMTR at nominal value of Rp89 billion; The value of these shares is Rp406 billion at the current price of BMTR (Rp455). It is not clear yet on who will takeover the facility and the collaterals from Lehman Brothers. But some local groups are keen to takeover the assets. Bhakti's subsidiary PT Mobile-8 Telecom (FREN) once invested US$45 million in Lehman Liquidity Fund but according to FREN's first half 2008 report, the facility has been fully recovered. Lehman also provided US$70 million facility to FREN in 2006 but FREN had fully repaid the facility plus interest of US$1.6 million in August 2007. On January 25, 2008, FREN and Lehman Brothers Opportunity Ltd (LBOL) amended the warrant agreement dated Nov 29, 2006 in relation to the extension of the exercise period until July 29, 2008. On the same date, FREN issued 20 warrant certificates to LBOL where each certificate is exchangeable for 111.368 million shares of FREN or around 2.227 billion shares. At the current market price, the value of the shares is around Rp177 billion. On August 8, 2007, FREN entered into a swap agreement with Lehman Brothers Special Financing until March 1, 2013 with a notional amount of US$100 million where FREN agreed to pay fixed interest rate of 10.45%. As of Dec 2007, the fair value of the derivative financial instrument amounted to US$299,212 or Rp2.8 billion. Unfortunately, FREN has yet to issue its first half financial results to get better view on Lehman-related issues. But some said Bhakti would likely get significant discount on the facilities due to the bankruptcy filing. *DAVOmas* In May 2006, Davomas entered into an interest rate swap contract with Lehman with a notional amount of US$50 million where Davomas agreed to pay a fixed rate 9.28% in semi-annual intervals up to 2011. As of August 31, 2008, Lehman controls 1.377 billion shares of DAVO, increased sharply from 6.37% (789 million shares) in June 2007. At the moment, the value of Lehman shares in DAVO is around Rp168 billion. It's not clear whether Lehman has divested the shares. *Intikeramik* Ceramic producer PT Intikeramik Alam Asri Industri (IKAI) Tbk initially planned to take US$22 million facility from Lehman, but cancelled due to disagreement on warrant deal. Intikeramik then moved to PT Al Ijarah Indonesia Finance (ALIF). *Gajah Tunggal* Lehman involved in the issuance of US$325 million bonds for Gajah Tunggal. Other than that, Lehman and Citicorp agreed to restructure two notes issued by Polychem Indonesia, an affiliate of Gajah Tunggal Group, with combined outstanding of US$102 million late last year.
[obrolan-bandar] Mr. Frezzz; sekuritas??????
Mr. Frezzz, boleh informasinya ttg sekuritas yang kabur. Kalau ada pengalaman/info bisa di share. Serem soalnya. Tks. - Pesan Asli Dari: freez z [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Kamis, 25 September, 2008 12:27:10 Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Nanya E-Trading kalau mau tarik dana gampang, tinggal klik. cuma ga amannya takut sekuritasnya kabur dan uang sering hilang. --- On Wed, 9/24/08, STANISLAUS70 STANISLAUS70 stanislaus70@ yahoo.com wrote: From: STANISLAUS70 STANISLAUS70 stanislaus70@ yahoo.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Nanya E-Trading To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 9:31 PM Rekan2, Mohon mengenai E-Trading gitu aman ngak ya? Kalo mau tarik dana kita problem ngak? Thanks Stanis70 Nama baru untuk Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! ___ Nama baru untuk Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Deal Close on $700 billion financial bailout plan
traders bet on possible rate cut next month. dow fut +49. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Steve Leirissa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080925/financial_meltdown.html AP Deal close on $700 billion financial bailout plan Thursday September 25, 4:41 am ET By Julie Hirschfeld Davis, Associated Press Writer Compromise close on $700 billion bailout as Bush plans White House summit seeking quick deal WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush is bringing presidential candidates Barack Obama and John McCain into negotiations on a $700 billion rescue of Wall Street as Democrats and Republicans near agreement on a bailout plan with more protections for taxpayers and new help for distressed homeowners. ADVERTISEMENT Senior lawmakers and Bush administration officials have cleared away key obstacles to a deal on the unprecedented rescue, agreeing to include widely supported limits on pay packages for executives whose companies benefit. They're still wrangling over major elements, including how to phase in the eye-popping cost -- a measure demanded by Democrats and some Republicans who want stronger congressional control over the bailout -- without spooking markets. A plan to let the government take an ownership stake in troubled companies as part of the rescue, rather than just buying bad debt, also was under intense negotiation. A bipartisan meeting was set for Thursday to begin drafting a compromise, which top Democrats said they hoped could pass within days. The core of the plan envisions the government buying up sour assets of shaky financial firms in a bid to keep them from going under and to stave off a potentially severe recession. Bush acknowledged in a prime-time television address Wednesday night that the bailout would be a tough vote for lawmakers. But he said failing to approve it would risk dire consequences for the economy and most Americans. Without immediate action by Congress, America could slip into a financial panic, and a distressing scenario would unfold, Bush said as he worked to resurrect the unpopular bailout package. Our entire economy is in danger. Bush's warning came soon after he invited Obama and McCain, one of whom will inherit the economic mess in four months, as well as key congressional leaders to a White House meeting Thursday to work on a compromise. With the administration's original proposal considered dead in Congress, House leaders said they were making progress toward revised legislation that could be approved. Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., who has led negotiations with Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson on the package, said that given the progress of the talks, the White House meeting was a distraction. We're going to have to interrupt a negotiating session tomorrow between the Democrats and Republicans on a bill where I think we are getting pretty close, and troop down to the White House for their photo op, said Frank, the House Financial Services Committee chairman. I wish they'd checked with us. Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke have been crisscrossing Capitol Hill in recent days, shuttling between public hearings on the proposal and private meetings with lawmakers, to sell the proposal. Obama and McCain are calling for a bipartisan effort to deal with the crisis, little more than five weeks before national elections in which the economy has emerged as the dominant theme. The plan that has been submitted to Congress by the Bush administration is flawed, but the effort to protect the American economy must not fail, they said in a joint statement Wednesday night. This is a time to rise above politics for the good of the country. We cannot risk an economic catastrophe. Presidential politics intruded, nonetheless, when McCain said earlier Wednesday he intended to return to Washington and was asking Obama to agree to delay their first debate, scheduled for Friday, to deal with the meltdown. Obama said the debate should go ahead. Lawmakers in both parties have objected strenuously to the rescue plan over the past two days, Republicans complaining about federal intervention in private business and Democrats pressing to tack on more conditions and help for beleaguered homeowners. But many in both parties said they were open to legislation, although on different terms than the White House has proposed. Some partisan sticking points remain. Democrats are pushing to allow bankruptcy judges to rewrite mortgages to ease the burden on consumers who are facing foreclosure -- a nonstarter for Republicans. Democrats acknowledge privately that the provision will almost certainly be dropped in the interest of a bipartisan deal. Obama told reporters it's probably something that we shouldn't try to do in this piece of legislation. Democrats also want any potential proceeds the government reaps from the bailout to go to a fund designed to pay for housing for poor families.
[obrolan-bandar] OLT Sinarmas Sekuritas, dah ada yang nyoba ??
Baru dapet info trus liat websitenya : http://www.sinarmassekuritas.co.id/simas.net/index.asp Aplikasinya pake .Net 2005, lumayan berat tuh kalo pake aplikasi .net butuh req komp yang lumayan gede, mudah2an sih koneksinya gak lemot. gat au nih kapan launching nya, dah ada yang nyoba or jadi nasabahnya ?? komentarnya dunk..
[obrolan-bandar] TRUBA
Pak JsxTrader, bagaimana candle hari ini ?, volume terus meningkat. salam Herman
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Lehman's portfolios in Indonesia
Pak Cumi, kira2 portfolio si Leman tsb bakal diobral atau diangkat dulu? Terus, apa resiko untuk masing2. Misalnya jika dibuang/ diboral dulu, apa ada jaminan bakal naik, atua malah terus nyngsep? On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Juragan Cumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kapan yah barang-barang ini bakal dilepas murah ke pasar? Salam, Cumi, Cuma Mimpi -- Forwarded message -- Lehman's portfolios in Indonesia, Lehman Brothers was among foreign creditors for PT Bakrie Brothers (BNBR) Tbk when Bakrie family were struggling to regain control over the company. In fact, Lehman once owned 1.74% shares in BNBR back in 2003. After a brief period of relatively quiet, Lehman returned to major corporate actions in the last few years with Bhakti Group as the main partner. Lehman was also active in Gajah Tunggal Group, Davomas, and Jakarta Setiabudi, and Intikeramik Group. Let's start with Bhakti. On Dec 18, 2007, Lehman Brothers Commercial Corp Asia Ltd provided US$75 million facility to PT MNC Sky Vision (MNCSV) where Global Mediacom (BMTR) controls 51% shares. The 44-month facility carries LIBOR +2% interest, used by MNCSV to expand Indovision's Pay TV business. Collaterals of the facility are: 1) 2.27 billion shares of MNCSV at nominal value of Rp227 billion. 2) Shares in PT Media Citra Indostar owned by PT Datakom Asia at nominal value of Rp68 billion, and 3) 893 million shares of BMTR at nominal value of Rp89 billion; The value of these shares is Rp406 billion at the current price of BMTR (Rp455). It is not clear yet on who will takeover the facility and the collaterals from Lehman Brothers. But some local groups are keen to takeover the assets. Bhakti's subsidiary PT Mobile-8 Telecom (FREN) once invested US$45 million in Lehman Liquidity Fund but according to FREN's first half 2008 report, the facility has been fully recovered. Lehman also provided US$70 million facility to FREN in 2006 but FREN had fully repaid the facility plus interest of US$1.6 million in August 2007. On January 25, 2008, FREN and Lehman Brothers Opportunity Ltd (LBOL) amended the warrant agreement dated Nov 29, 2006 in relation to the extension of the exercise period until July 29, 2008. On the same date, FREN issued 20 warrant certificates to LBOL where each certificate is exchangeable for 111.368 million shares of FREN or around 2.227 billion shares. At the current market price, the value of the shares is around Rp177 billion. On August 8, 2007, FREN entered into a swap agreement with Lehman Brothers Special Financing until March 1, 2013 with a notional amount of US$100 million where FREN agreed to pay fixed interest rate of 10.45%. As of Dec 2007, the fair value of the derivative financial instrument amounted to US$299,212 or Rp2.8 billion. Unfortunately, FREN has yet to issue its first half financial results to get better view on Lehman-related issues. But some said Bhakti would likely get significant discount on the facilities due to the bankruptcy filing. DAVOmas In May 2006, Davomas entered into an interest rate swap contract with Lehman with a notional amount of US$50 million where Davomas agreed to pay a fixed rate 9.28% in semi-annual intervals up to 2011. As of August 31, 2008, Lehman controls 1.377 billion shares of DAVO, increased sharply from 6.37% (789 million shares) in June 2007. At the moment, the value of Lehman shares in DAVO is around Rp168 billion. It's not clear whether Lehman has divested the shares. Intikeramik Ceramic producer PT Intikeramik Alam Asri Industri (IKAI) Tbk initially planned to take US$22 million facility from Lehman, but cancelled due to disagreement on warrant deal. Intikeramik then moved to PT Al Ijarah Indonesia Finance (ALIF). Gajah Tunggal Lehman involved in the issuance of US$325 million bonds for Gajah Tunggal. Other than that, Lehman and Citicorp agreed to restructure two notes issued by Polychem Indonesia, an affiliate of Gajah Tunggal Group, with combined outstanding of US$102 million late last year.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Deal Close on $700 billion financial bailout plan
Thanks to Bail out... Bursa Eropa langsung hijau,..Dow Fut +74 USD melemah thd Euro What a perfect combination ??? --- On Thu, 9/25/08, Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Deal Close on $700 billion financial bailout plan To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 5:03 PM traders bet on possible rate cut next month. dow fut +49. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Steve Leirissa steveleirissa@ ... wrote: http://biz.yahoo. com/ap/080925/ financial_ meltdown. html AP Deal close on $700 billion financial bailout plan Thursday September 25, 4:41 am ET By Julie Hirschfeld Davis, Associated Press Writer Compromise close on $700 billion bailout as Bush plans White House summit seeking quick deal WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush is bringing presidential candidates Barack Obama and John McCain into negotiations on a $700 billion rescue of Wall Street as Democrats and Republicans near agreement on a bailout plan with more protections for taxpayers and new help for distressed homeowners. ADVERTISEMENT Senior lawmakers and Bush administration officials have cleared away key obstacles to a deal on the unprecedented rescue, agreeing to include widely supported limits on pay packages for executives whose companies benefit. They're still wrangling over major elements, including how to phase in the eye-popping cost -- a measure demanded by Democrats and some Republicans who want stronger congressional control over the bailout -- without spooking markets. A plan to let the government take an ownership stake in troubled companies as part of the rescue, rather than just buying bad debt, also was under intense negotiation. A bipartisan meeting was set for Thursday to begin drafting a compromise, which top Democrats said they hoped could pass within days. The core of the plan envisions the government buying up sour assets of shaky financial firms in a bid to keep them from going under and to stave off a potentially severe recession. Bush acknowledged in a prime-time television address Wednesday night that the bailout would be a tough vote for lawmakers. But he said failing to approve it would risk dire consequences for the economy and most Americans. Without immediate action by Congress, America could slip into a financial panic, and a distressing scenario would unfold, Bush said as he worked to resurrect the unpopular bailout package. Our entire economy is in danger. Bush's warning came soon after he invited Obama and McCain, one of whom will inherit the economic mess in four months, as well as key congressional leaders to a White House meeting Thursday to work on a compromise. With the administration' s original proposal considered dead in Congress, House leaders said they were making progress toward revised legislation that could be approved. Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., who has led negotiations with Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson on the package, said that given the progress of the talks, the White House meeting was a distraction. We're going to have to interrupt a negotiating session tomorrow between the Democrats and Republicans on a bill where I think we are getting pretty close, and troop down to the White House for their photo op, said Frank, the House Financial Services Committee chairman. I wish they'd checked with us. Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke have been crisscrossing Capitol Hill in recent days, shuttling between public hearings on the proposal and private meetings with lawmakers, to sell the proposal. Obama and McCain are calling for a bipartisan effort to deal with the crisis, little more than five weeks before national elections in which the economy has emerged as the dominant theme. The plan that has been submitted to Congress by the Bush administration is flawed, but the effort to protect the American economy must not fail, they said in a joint statement Wednesday night. This is a time to rise above politics for the good of the country. We cannot risk an economic catastrophe. Presidential politics intruded, nonetheless, when McCain said earlier Wednesday he intended to return to Washington and was asking Obama to agree to delay their first debate, scheduled for Friday, to deal with the meltdown. Obama said the debate should go ahead. Lawmakers in both parties have objected strenuously to the rescue plan over the past two days, Republicans complaining about federal intervention in private business and Democrats pressing to tack on more conditions and help for beleaguered homeowners. But many in both parties said they were open to legislation, although on different terms than the White House has proposed. Some partisan sticking points remain. Democrats are pushing to allow bankruptcy judges to rewrite mortgages to ease the burden on consumers who are facing foreclosure -- a nonstarter for Republicans.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Lehman's portfolios in Indonesia
Orang bangkrut mah dah gak punya waktu panjang buat mainin, jadi paling-paling ya diobral aja, abis itu terserah si penampung buangannya mau dibawa kemana. Kali sama kayak orang mau cerai yah, likuidasi harta secepatnya supaya segera bisa dibagi jadi harta gono-gini. Makanya kalo mau cari rumah murah ya cari yang mau cerai. Aih, bukan ndoain yang jelek yah ... Salam, Cumi, Cuma Mimpi On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:08 PM, abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak Cumi, kira2 portfolio si Leman tsb bakal diobral atau diangkat dulu? Terus, apa resiko untuk masing2. Misalnya jika dibuang/ diboral dulu, apa ada jaminan bakal naik, atua malah terus nyngsep? On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Juragan Cumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kapan yah barang-barang ini bakal dilepas murah ke pasar? Salam, Cumi, Cuma Mimpi -- Forwarded message -- Lehman's portfolios in Indonesia, Lehman Brothers was among foreign creditors for PT Bakrie Brothers (BNBR) Tbk when Bakrie family were struggling to regain control over the company. In fact, Lehman once owned 1.74% shares in BNBR back in 2003. After a brief period of relatively quiet, Lehman returned to major corporate actions in the last few years with Bhakti Group as the main partner. Lehman was also active in Gajah Tunggal Group, Davomas, and Jakarta Setiabudi, and Intikeramik Group. Let's start with Bhakti. On Dec 18, 2007, Lehman Brothers Commercial Corp Asia Ltd provided US$75 million facility to PT MNC Sky Vision (MNCSV) where Global Mediacom (BMTR) controls 51% shares. The 44-month facility carries LIBOR +2% interest, used by MNCSV to expand Indovision's Pay TV business. Collaterals of the facility are: 1) 2.27 billion shares of MNCSV at nominal value of Rp227 billion. 2) Shares in PT Media Citra Indostar owned by PT Datakom Asia at nominal value of Rp68 billion, and 3) 893 million shares of BMTR at nominal value of Rp89 billion; The value of these shares is Rp406 billion at the current price of BMTR (Rp455). It is not clear yet on who will takeover the facility and the collaterals from Lehman Brothers. But some local groups are keen to takeover the assets. Bhakti's subsidiary PT Mobile-8 Telecom (FREN) once invested US$45 million in Lehman Liquidity Fund but according to FREN's first half 2008 report, the facility has been fully recovered. Lehman also provided US$70 million facility to FREN in 2006 but FREN had fully repaid the facility plus interest of US$1.6 million in August 2007. On January 25, 2008, FREN and Lehman Brothers Opportunity Ltd (LBOL) amended the warrant agreement dated Nov 29, 2006 in relation to the extension of the exercise period until July 29, 2008. On the same date, FREN issued 20 warrant certificates to LBOL where each certificate is exchangeable for 111.368 million shares of FREN or around 2.227 billion shares. At the current market price, the value of the shares is around Rp177 billion. On August 8, 2007, FREN entered into a swap agreement with Lehman Brothers Special Financing until March 1, 2013 with a notional amount of US$100 million where FREN agreed to pay fixed interest rate of 10.45%. As of Dec 2007, the fair value of the derivative financial instrument amounted to US$299,212 or Rp2.8 billion. Unfortunately, FREN has yet to issue its first half financial results to get better view on Lehman-related issues. But some said Bhakti would likely get significant discount on the facilities due to the bankruptcy filing. DAVOmas In May 2006, Davomas entered into an interest rate swap contract with Lehman with a notional amount of US$50 million where Davomas agreed to pay a fixed rate 9.28% in semi-annual intervals up to 2011. As of August 31, 2008, Lehman controls 1.377 billion shares of DAVO, increased sharply from 6.37% (789 million shares) in June 2007. At the moment, the value of Lehman shares in DAVO is around Rp168 billion. It's not clear whether Lehman has divested the shares. Intikeramik Ceramic producer PT Intikeramik Alam Asri Industri (IKAI) Tbk initially planned to take US$22 million facility from Lehman, but cancelled due to disagreement on warrant deal. Intikeramik then moved to PT Al Ijarah Indonesia Finance (ALIF). Gajah Tunggal Lehman involved in the issuance of US$325 million bonds for Gajah Tunggal. Other than that, Lehman and Citicorp agreed to restructure two notes issued by Polychem Indonesia, an affiliate of Gajah Tunggal Group, with combined outstanding of US$102 million late last year. + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Lehman's portfolios in Indonesia
juragan cumi nich dapet beritanya yg jitu2 nich..thanks for sharing On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Juragan Cumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Orang bangkrut mah dah gak punya waktu panjang buat mainin, jadi paling-paling ya diobral aja, abis itu terserah si penampung buangannya mau dibawa kemana. Kali sama kayak orang mau cerai yah, likuidasi harta secepatnya supaya segera bisa dibagi jadi harta gono-gini. Makanya kalo mau cari rumah murah ya cari yang mau cerai. Aih, bukan ndoain yang jelek yah ... Salam, Cumi, Cuma Mimpi On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:08 PM, abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak Cumi, kira2 portfolio si Leman tsb bakal diobral atau diangkat dulu? Terus, apa resiko untuk masing2. Misalnya jika dibuang/ diboral dulu, apa ada jaminan bakal naik, atua malah terus nyngsep? On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Juragan Cumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kapan yah barang-barang ini bakal dilepas murah ke pasar? Salam, Cumi, Cuma Mimpi -- Forwarded message -- Lehman's portfolios in Indonesia, Lehman Brothers was among foreign creditors for PT Bakrie Brothers (BNBR) Tbk when Bakrie family were struggling to regain control over the company. In fact, Lehman once owned 1.74% shares in BNBR back in 2003. After a brief period of relatively quiet, Lehman returned to major corporate actions in the last few years with Bhakti Group as the main partner. Lehman was also active in Gajah Tunggal Group, Davomas, and Jakarta Setiabudi, and Intikeramik Group. Let's start with Bhakti. On Dec 18, 2007, Lehman Brothers Commercial Corp Asia Ltd provided US$75 million facility to PT MNC Sky Vision (MNCSV) where Global Mediacom (BMTR) controls 51% shares. The 44-month facility carries LIBOR +2% interest, used by MNCSV to expand Indovision's Pay TV business. Collaterals of the facility are: 1) 2.27 billion shares of MNCSV at nominal value of Rp227 billion. 2) Shares in PT Media Citra Indostar owned by PT Datakom Asia at nominal value of Rp68 billion, and 3) 893 million shares of BMTR at nominal value of Rp89 billion; The value of these shares is Rp406 billion at the current price of BMTR (Rp455). It is not clear yet on who will takeover the facility and the collaterals from Lehman Brothers. But some local groups are keen to takeover the assets. Bhakti's subsidiary PT Mobile-8 Telecom (FREN) once invested US$45 million in Lehman Liquidity Fund but according to FREN's first half 2008 report, the facility has been fully recovered. Lehman also provided US$70 million facility to FREN in 2006 but FREN had fully repaid the facility plus interest of US$1.6 million in August 2007. On January 25, 2008, FREN and Lehman Brothers Opportunity Ltd (LBOL) amended the warrant agreement dated Nov 29, 2006 in relation to the extension of the exercise period until July 29, 2008. On the same date, FREN issued 20 warrant certificates to LBOL where each certificate is exchangeable for 111.368 million shares of FREN or around 2.227 billion shares. At the current market price, the value of the shares is around Rp177 billion. On August 8, 2007, FREN entered into a swap agreement with Lehman Brothers Special Financing until March 1, 2013 with a notional amount of US$100 million where FREN agreed to pay fixed interest rate of 10.45%. As of Dec 2007, the fair value of the derivative financial instrument amounted to US$299,212 or Rp2.8 billion. Unfortunately, FREN has yet to issue its first half financial results to get better view on Lehman-related issues. But some said Bhakti would likely get significant discount on the facilities due to the bankruptcy filing. DAVOmas In May 2006, Davomas entered into an interest rate swap contract with Lehman with a notional amount of US$50 million where Davomas agreed to pay a fixed rate 9.28% in semi-annual intervals up to 2011. As of August 31, 2008, Lehman controls 1.377 billion shares of DAVO, increased sharply from 6.37% (789 million shares) in June 2007. At the moment, the value of Lehman shares in DAVO is around Rp168 billion. It's not clear whether Lehman has divested the shares. Intikeramik Ceramic producer PT Intikeramik Alam Asri Industri (IKAI) Tbk initially planned to take US$22 million facility from Lehman, but cancelled due to disagreement on warrant deal. Intikeramik then moved to PT Al Ijarah Indonesia Finance (ALIF). Gajah Tunggal Lehman involved in the issuance of US$325 million bonds for Gajah Tunggal. Other than that, Lehman and Citicorp agreed to restructure two notes issued by Polychem Indonesia, an affiliate of Gajah Tunggal Group, with combined outstanding of US$102 million late last year. + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + +
RE: [obrolan-bandar] TRUBA
Melihat volume dan harga penutupan yg berhasil CLOSE 160, PURE Technically Speaking, NO question we have SOLID konfirmasi bottom reversal., Pertanyaannya sekarang apakah akan melanjutkan Up Trend..?? Jika ya apakah akan Sustainable..?? NORMALY saya berani bilang most probable YA.., tapi melihat penjual dan pembelinya masih die-die juga.., sebaiknya jawabannya kita serahkan ke Mr. Tbumi., he. Buat saya the volume is way TOO BIG compare to price movement., tapi bukan berarti harus dihindari lo.., cuma main cepet aja, jangan ngarep yg muluk-muluk dan jangan sekali-sekali tinggalin monitor.. Ada pendapat yg mengatakan bahwa kalau PF sdh habis peluru harga akan terus meroket.., saya teringat kasus CPRO waktu digebukin ABIS-ABISAN sama BW.., waktu itu juga ada pendapat yang sama, namum hasilnya kita bisa lihat sendiri. so untuk sementara trading, trading, and trading aja dulu.., copetin aja tuh BD yg keliatannya lagi asik main 'perang-perangan'., Feeling saya sih (feeling ya) nopek-nopek mah kena lah.. Disclaimer Salam, JsxTrader trub.png .. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herman Tobing Sent: 25 September 2008 16:03 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] TRUBA Pak JsxTrader, bagaimana candle hari ini ?, volume terus meningkat. salam Herman No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.1/1688 - Release Date: 9/24/2008 6:51 PM image001.png
[obrolan-bandar] Re: OLT Sinarmas Sekuritas, dah ada yang nyoba ??
lumayan sih...tapi tidak dapat gue bandingkan dengan OLT yg lain, soalnya yg ini juga pertama buat gue. he..he..he.. koneksi ke internet sih pake starone. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, The Noobs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Baru dapet info trus liat websitenya : http://www.sinarmassekuritas.co.id/simas.net/index.asp Aplikasinya pake .Net 2005, lumayan berat tuh kalo pake aplikasi .net butuh req komp yang lumayan gede, mudah2an sih koneksinya gak lemot. gat au nih kapan launching nya, dah ada yang nyoba or jadi nasabahnya ?? komentarnya dunk..
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Nanya E-Trading
Bedabya dg forex sekuritas itu sangat regulated! Ijin nya ngga main2! Saat ini saja banyak yg cari ijin sekuritas, susah! Ijinnya saja (dlm keadaan kosong) harganya 10 milyar, itupun ngga ada yg mau jual! Beda dg forex yg ijinnya banyak yg ngga jelas alias liar! Untuk punya sekuritas ngga sembarangan! Perlu screening (fit n proper) ketat dr Bapepam dan Bursa! Tdk seenaknya punya duit trus bikin sekuritas! Belum investasinya yg luar biasa kl bangun sistem IT yg canggih! Modalpun ngga bisa cekak! Jadi sekuritas yg ada saat ini sudah memenuhi syarat dr segi permodalan dan sdm nya! Tiap pagi hrs buat laporan ke bursa dan bapepam! Telat 1 detik saja laporan masuk langsung suspend! He he he so? Jelas antara perusahaan forex dan sekuritas jauh bedanya, alias bumi dan langit Semoga memberi pencerahan... Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry� -Original Message- From: freez z [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:41:39 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Nanya E-Trading kemukinan selalu ada tapi kalau sekuritas saham jarang bangeett. --- On Thu, 9/25/08, bon odori [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: bon odori [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Nanya E-Trading To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 12:02 AM Pak Freez, numpang tanya apakah kalau pakai sekuritas juga ada kemungkinan mereka ngabur membawa uang kita ?� seperti kalau main forex? Thx --- On Thu, 9/25/08, freez z [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: freez z [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Nanya E-Trading To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 5:27 AM kalau mau tarik dana gampang, tinggal klik. cuma ga amannya takut sekuritasnya kabur dan uang sering hilang. --- On Wed, 9/24/08, STANISLAUS70 STANISLAUS70 stanislaus70@ yahoo.com wrote: From: STANISLAUS70 STANISLAUS70 stanislaus70@ yahoo.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Nanya E-Trading To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 9:31 PM Rekan2, Mohon mengenai E-Trading gitu aman ngak ya? Kalo mau tarik dana kita problem ngak? Thanks Stanis70 Nama baru untuk Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MA 50 MA 200 --- DISTRIBUTION PHASE
BUMI lagi Buy Back saham, mana mau Bakrie beli di harga tinggi, tunggu kalauBuy Backnya sudah mau habis, siap2 beli harga bisa terbang lagi, seperti dulu waktu buy back di harga Rp 900an. --- On Thu, 9/25/08, hendrik_lwww [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: hendrik_lwww [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MA 50 MA 200 --- DISTRIBUTION PHASE To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 4:12 AM --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, iban lbs ibanlubis97@ ... wrote: kalo besok mbah, udah boleh beli BUMI? tks iban On 9/25/08, golden.health golden.health@ ... wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups. com, hendrik_lwww hendrik_lwww@ wrote: kalau AKUMULSI harga cenderung ditekan, tapi setelah AKUMULASI harga naik kencang MBAH yang lebih tau, silahkan berikan penjelasan.. . Betul Mbah mohon penjelasannya, BUMI harganya cenderung ditekan, ini sedang diakumulasi atau didistribusi mbah? thanks. menurt saya sih sebaiknya jauhi bumi karena masih downtrend.. chart : http://dolgado. blogspot. com/2008/ 09/bumi-update_ 25.html namun tentu saja kalau mau spekulasi beli ok2 aja, karena biasanya saham downtrend rebound gede n cepat, tapi cepet letoy juga... jadi siap2 CL aja kalau turun terus.. high risk high gain tentunya.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Lehman's portfolios in Indonesia
Kalau Macquire Bank di Australia ada hubungannya ngak ya? Mungkin ada yg tau. --- On Thu, 9/25/08, SSTrader-03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: SSTrader-03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Lehman's portfolios in Indonesia To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 7:09 AM juragan cumi nich dapet beritanya yg jitu2 nich..thanks for sharing On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Juragan Cumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: Orang bangkrut mah dah gak punya waktu panjang buat mainin, jadi paling-paling ya diobral aja, abis itu terserah si penampung buangannya mau dibawa kemana. Kali sama kayak orang mau cerai yah, likuidasi harta secepatnya supaya segera bisa dibagi jadi harta gono-gini. Makanya kalo mau cari rumah murah ya cari yang mau cerai. Aih, bukan ndoain yang jelek yah ... Salam, Cumi, Cuma Mimpi On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:08 PM, abdulrahim abdulrahim abdul.rahman. [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: Pak Cumi, kira2 portfolio si Leman tsb bakal diobral atau diangkat dulu? Terus, apa resiko untuk masing2. Misalnya jika dibuang/ diboral dulu, apa ada jaminan bakal naik, atua malah terus nyngsep? On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Juragan Cumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: Kapan yah barang-barang ini bakal dilepas murah ke pasar? Salam, Cumi, Cuma Mimpi -- Forwarded message -- Lehman's portfolios in Indonesia, Lehman Brothers was among foreign creditors for PT Bakrie Brothers (BNBR) Tbk when Bakrie family were struggling to regain control over the company. In fact, Lehman once owned 1.74% shares in BNBR back in 2003. After a brief period of relatively quiet, Lehman returned to major corporate actions in the last few years with Bhakti Group as the main partner. Lehman was also active in Gajah Tunggal Group, Davomas, and Jakarta Setiabudi, and Intikeramik Group. Let's start with Bhakti. On Dec 18, 2007, Lehman Brothers Commercial Corp Asia Ltd provided US$75 million facility to PT MNC Sky Vision (MNCSV) where Global Mediacom (BMTR) controls 51% shares. The 44-month facility carries LIBOR +2% interest, used by MNCSV to expand Indovision's Pay TV business. Collaterals of the facility are: 1) 2.27 billion shares of MNCSV at nominal value of Rp227 billion. 2) Shares in PT Media Citra Indostar owned by PT Datakom Asia at nominal value of Rp68 billion, and 3) 893 million shares of BMTR at nominal value of Rp89 billion; The value of these shares is Rp406 billion at the current price of BMTR (Rp455). It is not clear yet on who will takeover the facility and the collaterals from Lehman Brothers. But some local groups are keen to takeover the assets. Bhakti's subsidiary PT Mobile-8 Telecom (FREN) once invested US$45 million in Lehman Liquidity Fund but according to FREN's first half 2008 report, the facility has been fully recovered. Lehman also provided US$70 million facility to FREN in 2006 but FREN had fully repaid the facility plus interest of US$1.6 million in August 2007. On January 25, 2008, FREN and Lehman Brothers Opportunity Ltd (LBOL) amended the warrant agreement dated Nov 29, 2006 in relation to the extension of the exercise period until July 29, 2008. On the same date, FREN issued 20 warrant certificates to LBOL where each certificate is exchangeable for 111.368 million shares of FREN or around 2.227 billion shares. At the current market price, the value of the shares is around Rp177 billion. On August 8, 2007, FREN entered into a swap agreement with Lehman Brothers Special Financing until March 1, 2013 with a notional amount of US$100 million where FREN agreed to pay fixed interest rate of 10.45%. As of Dec 2007, the fair value of the derivative financial instrument amounted to US$299,212 or Rp2.8 billion. Unfortunately, FREN has yet to issue its first half financial results to get better view on Lehman-related issues. But some said Bhakti would likely get significant discount on the facilities due to the bankruptcy filing. DAVOmas In May 2006, Davomas entered into an interest rate swap contract with Lehman with a notional amount of US$50 million where Davomas agreed to pay a fixed rate 9.28% in semi-annual intervals up to 2011. As of August 31, 2008, Lehman controls 1.377 billion shares of DAVO, increased sharply from 6.37% (789 million shares) in June 2007. At the moment, the value of Lehman shares in DAVO is around Rp168 billion. It's not clear whether Lehman has divested the shares. Intikeramik Ceramic producer PT Intikeramik Alam Asri Industri (IKAI) Tbk initially planned to take US$22 million facility from Lehman, but cancelled due to disagreement on warrant deal. Intikeramik then moved to PT Al Ijarah Indonesia Finance (ALIF). Gajah Tunggal Lehman involved in the issuance of US$325 million bonds for Gajah Tunggal. Other than that, Lehman and Citicorp agreed to restructure two notes issued by Polychem Indonesia, an affiliate of Gajah
Re: [obrolan-bandar] TRUBA
Thanks again for your analysis. Mudah-mudahan besok sudah nopek Salam Herman 2008/9/25 JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Melihat volume dan harga penutupan yg berhasil CLOSE 160, PURE Technically Speaking, NO question we have SOLID konfirmasi bottom reversal…, Pertanyaannya sekarang apakah akan melanjutkan Up Trend..?? Jika ya apakah akan Sustainable..?? NORMALY saya berani bilang most probable YA.., tapi melihat penjual dan pembelinya masih die-die juga.., sebaiknya jawabannya kita serahkan ke Mr. Tbumi…, he. Buat saya the volume is way TOO BIG compare to price movement…, tapi bukan berarti harus dihindari lo.., cuma main cepet aja, jangan ngarep yg muluk-muluk dan jangan sekali-sekali tinggalin monitor.. Ada pendapat yg mengatakan bahwa kalau PF sdh habis peluru harga akan terus meroket.., saya teringat kasus CPRO waktu digebukin ABIS-ABISAN sama BW.., waktu itu juga ada pendapat yang sama, namum hasilnya kita bisa lihat sendiri. so untuk sementara trading, trading, and trading aja dulu.., copetin aja tuh BD yg keliatannya lagi asik main 'perang-perangan'…, Feeling saya sih (feeling ya) nopek-nopek mah kena lah.. Disclaimer Salam, JsxTrader [image: trub.png] . *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Herman Tobing *Sent:* 25 September 2008 16:03 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] TRUBA Pak JsxTrader, bagaimana candle hari ini ?, volume terus meningkat. salam Herman No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.1/1688 - Release Date: 9/24/2008 6:51 PM image001.png
[obrolan-bandar] Deal close on $700 billion financial bailout plan...
http://biz.yahoo.com/top.html Top Stories http://us.rd.yahoo.com/finance/finhome/topstories/apf/*http:/biz.yahoo.com/ ap/080925/financial_meltdown.html Deal close on $700 billion financial bailout plan- AP President Bush is bringing presidential candidates Barack Obama and John McCain into negotiations on a $700 billion rescue of Wall Street as Democrats and Republicans near agreement on a bailout plan with more protections for taxpayers and new help for distressed homeowners. http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080925/financial_meltdown.html
[obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] ada akumulasi halus
Kalau harga komoditi sudah stabil kemungkinan harga saham naik, asal harga komoditinya stabil bukan di harga rendah,. Kalau harga komoditinya rendah, sahamnya tetap saja ngak menarik bisa2 biaya produksinya sama/lebih tinggi dari harga jual komoditinya. Komoditi yg paling menarik saat ini Minyak /Gas/ Batu bara karena orang tetap saja pakai walau krismon, apalagi barang tsb habis terpakai, ngak bisa daur ulang. Kita tunggu si Komo datang --- On Wed, 9/24/08, Gambler.BEJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Gambler.BEJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [saham] ada akumulasi halus To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 11:38 PM Wah pak Halim udah di google tapi gak dapat apa2 tuh, cuma info ttg graham bibby dan investasinya di asia. Btw commodity kan masih volatile. Halim Mintareja wrote: hehe...:D silahkan seacrh di google dengan keyword Graham Bibby..Richmond When comodity stabilize... equity will go up :D have a nice clue...
[obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUBA
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Herman Tobing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks again for your analysis. Mudah-mudahan besok sudah nopek Salam Herman SIP : TBUMI Harga tiket bis TRUB dari supir TRUB : Sebelum libur lebaran : Rp. 200 Sebelum Natal : Rp. 1000 Awal tahun 2009 : Rp. 1500 Rencana kenaikan harga bis TRUB tentu harus didukung oleh bursa regional yg rebound. Kemungkinan besar bursa DOWJ bisa kembali hijau terus karena kongress USA sdh hampir setuju / deal dgn paket peyelamatan ekonomi yg baru.
[obrolan-bandar] Berita PGAS mulai ramai, siap2 di tarik
PGN-PLN Teken Kontrak Jual-Beli Gas Kamis, 25 September 2008 PT Perusahaan Gas Negara Tbk (PGN) kembali menandatangani nota kerjasama dengan PT Perusahaan Listrik Negara (PLN) untuk memasok gas ke pembangkit listrik di Cilegon sebanyak 30 juta kaki kubik per hari (mmscfd). Nilai kontrak kurang lebih hampir sama dengan kontrak yang ditandatangani dengan PLN pekan lalu sebesar Rp1,7 trilyun untuk memasok gas ke pembangkit listrik di Tanjung Priok sebanyak 30 mmscfd. Sebelumnya PGN dan PLN juga telah menandatangani kontrak pasokan gas sebesar 200 mmscfd untuk PLTGU Muara Tawar Proyek SSWJ PGN Rampung Kamis, 25 September 2008 PT Perusahaan Gas Negara Tbk (PGAS) telah merampungkan pembangunan pipa gas South Sumatera-West Java (SSWJ) sejak 23 September 2008. Sekretaris Perusahaan PGN, Heri Yusup dalam keterbukaan informasinya ke Bursa Efek Indonesia (BEI), Kamis (25/09), mengatakan, laporan pekerjaan ter tanggal 23 September merupakan yang terakhir untuk proyek SSWJ. Ditegaskan seluruh jaringan pipa dari jalur Pagardewa-Labuhan Maringgai sepanjang 270 km, Grisik-Pagardewa 195 km, Labuhan Maringgai-Bekasi sepanjang 164 km, Muara Bekasi-Rawa Maju sepanjang 34 km sudah siap dioperasikan.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Berita PGAS mulai ramai, siap2 di tarik
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, simon bolenang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PGN-PLN Teken Kontrak Jual-Beli Gas Kamis, 25 September 2008 PT Perusahaan Gas Negara Tbk (PGN) kembali menandatangani nota kerjasama dengan PT Perusahaan Listrik Negara (PLN) untuk memasok gas ke pembangkit listrik di Cilegon sebanyak 30 juta kaki kubik per hari (mmscfd). Nilai kontrak kurang lebih hampir sama dengan kontrak yang ditandatangani dengan PLN pekan lalu sebesar Rp1,7 trilyun untuk memasok gas ke pembangkit listrik di Tanjung Priok sebanyak 30 mmscfd. Sebelumnya PGN dan PLN juga telah menandatangani kontrak pasokan gas sebesar 200 mmscfd untuk PLTGU Muara Tawar Proyek SSWJ PGN Rampung Kamis, 25 September 2008 Sip : tbumi Saham komoditi dari BUMN yg terbaik saat ini : TINS
[obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] ada akumulasi halus
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, simon bolenang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalau harga komoditi sudah stabil kemungkinan harga saham naik, asal harga komoditinya stabil bukan di harga rendah,. Kalau harga komoditinya rendah, sahamnya tetap saja ngak menarik bisa2 biaya produksinya sama/lebih tinggi dari harga jual komoditinya. Komoditi yg paling menarik saat ini Minyak /Gas/ Batu bara karena orang tetap saja pakai walau krismon, apalagi barang tsb habis terpakai, ngak bisa daur ulang. Kita tunggu si Komo datang sip : tbumi Urutan saham komoditi yg terbaik menurut versi kami : 1) CPO 2) batubara 3) Timah 4) Nikel dan Gas
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Deal close on $700 billion financial bailout plan...
sip : tbumi Paket penyelamatan $700 billion utk menyelamatkan ekonomi dunia dari kehancuran ekonomi USA.
[obrolan-bandar] PTBA Incar Pendapatan di Atas Rp 7 Triliun
PTBA Incar Pendapatan di Atas Rp 7 Triliun Jakarta - PT Tambang Batubara Bukit Asam Tbk (PTBA) optimistis dapat mencapai pendapatan konsolidasi lebih dari Rp 7 triliun tahun ini, terutama didorong oleh kenaikan harga jual ke PLTU Suralaya sebesar 12,55% untuk periode Juni-Desember 2008. Perseroan optimistis pendapatan tahun ini dapat melampaui Rp 7 triliun tahun ini, terutama dikontribusikan oleh kenaikan harga kontrak batubara ke PLTU Suralaya sebesar 12,55%, ungkap Corporate Secretary PTBA, Eko Budhiwijayanto, di Jakarta, Kamis (24/9/2008). Tahun ini perseroan menargetkan volume penjualan batubara sebanyak 13 juta ton. Dari angka tersebut, sekitar 5,1 juta ton sudah dipasok ke PLTU Suralaya milik PT Indonesia Power. Kontrak tersebut di harga Rp 484.000 per ton. Namun pada Mei lalu, PTBA telah memperbarui harga kontrak per ton ke PLTU Suralaya untuk periode Juni-Desember 2008 menjadi Rp 544.750. Selama periode Januari hingga Mei 2008, PTBA telah memasok 2,1 juta ton batubara ke PLTU Suralaya di harga Rp 484.000/ton. Dengan diperbaruinya kontrak tersebut, maka untuk periode Juni-Desember, PTBA akan memasok 3 juta ton batubara di harga yang lebih tinggi 12,55% dari harga periode Januari-Mei 2008. Dengan adanya perubahan harga tersebut, penjualan PTBA ke PLTU Suralaya akan meningkat 7,37% dari sebelumnya Rp 2,47 triliun menjadi rp 2,65 triliun. Mengacu pada target 13 juta ton tahun ini, maka penetrasi harga tersebut terhadap pendapatan konsolidasian tahun ini akan sebesar 2,89%. Sebelumnya PTBA menargetkan pendapatan konsolidasian tahun ini sebesar Rp 6,8 triliun. Dengan tambahan pemasukan dari harga baru tersebut, ditambah harga batubara di pasar yang masih terus naik, perseroan menyatakan optimistis dapatmeraih pendapatan konsolidasian lebih dari Rp 7 triliun tahun ini.(dro/ir)
[obrolan-bandar] Kapasitas Naik, PTBA Bidik Laba Rp 1,5 Triliun
Kapasitas Naik, PTBA Bidik Laba Rp 1,5 Triliun Jakarta - PT Perusahaan Tambang Batubara Bukit Asam Tbk (PTBA) menargetkan perolehan laba sebesar Rp 1,5 triliun di akhir tahun 2008. Perseroan optimis setelah bekerja sama dengan PT Kereta Api Indonesia (KAI) maka kapasitas angkut produksi batubara akan meningkat. Meningkatnya kapasitas angkut produksi mendorong volume penjualan, kata Direktur Utama PTBA Sukrisno di Gedung Garuda, Jakarta, Kamis (25/9/2008). Ia mengatakan, tahun lalu kapasitas angkut produksi hanya 600.000 ton sekali kirim, setelah MOU diharapkan dapat meningkat menjadi di atas 700.000 ton. Dengan demikian, target perolehan laba perseroan tahun ini pun diperkirakan meningkat menjadi Rp 1,5 triliun. Tahun lalu perseroan hanya membukukan laba bersih sebesar Rp 760 miliar. Ia pun opstimis target tersebut bisa tercapai karena hingga semester pertama tahun 2008 perusahaan tambang plat merah tersebut telah mengantongi laba bersih sebanyak Rp 710 miliar. Sedangkan untuk pendapatan diperkirakan meningkat menjadi Rp 7 triliun, lebih tinggi dari pendapatan tahun lalu yang hanya mencapai Rp 3,89 triliun. Peningkatan kinerja tersebut tidak hanya disumbang dari peningkatan volume angkut produksi tetapi juga tingginya harga komoditas di awal tahun. Ia juga menjelaskan, volume penjualan perseroan tahun ini diperkirakan mencapai 13 juta ton, sedangkan pada tahun sebelumnya hanya 10,8 juta ton. Peningkatan daya angkut akan sangat terasa di tahun 2009 mendatang dengan perkiraan peningkatan volume penjualan antara 14,5 juta hingga 15 juta ton. Secara langsung kapasitas produksi perseroan pun meningkat dari tahun sebelumnya hanya sebanyak 10 juta ton per tahun menjadi 11 juta hingga 12 juta ton per tahun.
[obrolan-bandar] OMG...DJIA +2 % Oil naik
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[obrolan-bandar] GAS ENGINE ---- Good for PGAS
Pertama saya minta izin ama Mbah untuk message yang singkat ini. Bagi yang ada keperluan untuk GAS ENGINE (genset dengan bahan bakar natural gas) untuk keperluan pabrik atau office building bisa hubungi saya di [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kapasitas yang ditawarkan 1000 kWe/engine, 2000 kWe/engine dan 3000 kWe/engine. Bagi yang sudah mendapatkan penawaran ngak ada salahnya juga bisa hubungi saya karena ini merupakan tambahan PILIHAN buat management/perusahaan. Bagi yang ngak ada kepentingan, saya mohon maaf dan tolong ignore message ini. Terima kasih semuanya. Salam
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Berita PGAS mulai ramai, siap2 di tarik
tapi kenapa TINS turun terus pak t_bumi ?? bukannya dari 3500 ke 1000 lalu reversal ke 1700 sudah termasuk great sale ?? plus saham TINS yang beredar di pasar jumlahnya relatif sedikit walaupun sudah ss 1:10 mohon penjelasan nya... thanks --- On Thu, 9/25/08, t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Berita PGAS mulai ramai, siap2 di tarik To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 10:12 AM Saham komoditi dari BUMN yg terbaik saat ini : TINS
[obrolan-bandar] Re: MA 50 MA 200 --- DISTRIBUTION PHASE
Ya kalo 700bn disetujui siapa yang berani MENTUNG? Yang MENTUNG bakal DIPENTUNG. Cuma sampe sekarang pun masih ada pertanyaan: 1. Kalo disetujuipun duitnya ada ngga? 2. Apakah nanti akan ada lagi bailout semacam ini? 3. Apakah bailout ini menandakan akhir krisis subprime? Mamang teorinya kalo semua toxic assets ini dibeli tentunya pasar jadi SEHAT lagi. Tetapi dampaknya belum tentu sampe disitu saja.. Seharusnya saat spt ini jangan trading dulu ...tapi biasalah namanya spekulan kalo RISK-nya MEMBESAR, REWARD-nya juga BUESSAAARRR. rgs, JM --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, dinda trinita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mbah, kalau bail out plan yang $700 B itu disetujui, (kapan ya?), apakah IHSG ikut naik?, apa masih kena dipentung juga? thanks 2008/9/25 jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bandar itu prinsipnya PROFIT TREND ORIENTED, ketika IHSG 1900 susah ditembus pake BC, dia mulai cari PROFIT yg lain. Saham2 yg engga likwid diangkat supaya mereka bisa jualan di BC. Kalo IHSG bisa nembus 1900 (NEW HIGH), mereka tinggal beli balik BC sambil ngancurin saham yg engga likwid yg lagi dinaekin hari ini... Tapi kalo IHSG bener bener engga bisa tembus 1900 maka market akan SADAR dan MALAH membantu BD mentung IHSG. A simple BANDAR TRADING PLAN --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, conx_2003 conx_2003@ wrote: Jika saya menjadi bandar, saya punya barang banyak, trus saya sedang bagi2 selama 2-3 hari ini trus saya pentung kebawah pake sisa barang saya, trus panic selling, trus saya sendiri yg nampung diharga bawah jadi BUMI yg sedang distribusi, kemungkinan akan hit lowestnya tahun ini? seperti pak oen dan el bilang 2500? atau hal seperti ini distribusi, oleh si Lehboy yg harus jual barang2nya di saham2 blue chip, dengan umpan, saham2 non blue chip? mohon petunjukknya --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Iwan.Budi@ wrote: Mbah, Sebenarnya tujuan distribusi itu apa? Mau bikin PENTUNGAN... Bukannya lebih baik kalo distribusi pas lagi diatas, shg tdk 'kelihatan'? Kalo pas lagi gini, enaknya di'apain' saham2 yg lagi didistribusikan ? Member_dengan_wawasan_cekak From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant Sent: Thursday, 25 September 2008 1:14 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MA 50 MA 200 --- DISTRIBUTION PHASE --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar% 2540yahoogroups.com , dinda trinita dinda.trinita@ wrote: Mbah, Trio metal ANTM, INCO, TINS gimana mbah? Udah boleh masuk?? Saham yg LIKWID lagi DIBAGI dengan umpan saham yg ENGGA LIKWID !!! + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
[obrolan-bandar] Re: MA 50 MA 200 --- DISTRIBUTION PHASE
Sektor komo sudah DIPENTUNG, ^DJUSCL -3,2% Mohon tanya, ^DJUSCL itu index harga coal ataukah index saham coal? thanks. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jos_martino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ya kalo 700bn disetujui siapa yang berani MENTUNG? Yang MENTUNG bakal DIPENTUNG. Cuma sampe sekarang pun masih ada pertanyaan: 1. Kalo disetujuipun duitnya ada ngga? 2. Apakah nanti akan ada lagi bailout semacam ini? 3. Apakah bailout ini menandakan akhir krisis subprime? Mamang teorinya kalo semua toxic assets ini dibeli tentunya pasar jadi SEHAT lagi. Tetapi dampaknya belum tentu sampe disitu saja.. Seharusnya saat spt ini jangan trading dulu ...tapi biasalah namanya spekulan kalo RISK-nya MEMBESAR, REWARD-nya juga BUESSAAARRR. rgs, JM --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, dinda trinita dinda.trinita@ wrote: Mbah, kalau bail out plan yang $700 B itu disetujui, (kapan ya?), apakah IHSG ikut naik?, apa masih kena dipentung juga? thanks 2008/9/25 jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ Bandar itu prinsipnya PROFIT TREND ORIENTED, ketika IHSG 1900 susah ditembus pake BC, dia mulai cari PROFIT yg lain. Saham2 yg engga likwid diangkat supaya mereka bisa jualan di BC. Kalo IHSG bisa nembus 1900 (NEW HIGH), mereka tinggal beli balik BC sambil ngancurin saham yg engga likwid yg lagi dinaekin hari ini... Tapi kalo IHSG bener bener engga bisa tembus 1900 maka market akan SADAR dan MALAH membantu BD mentung IHSG. A simple BANDAR TRADING PLAN --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, conx_2003 conx_2003@ wrote: Jika saya menjadi bandar, saya punya barang banyak, trus saya sedang bagi2 selama 2-3 hari ini trus saya pentung kebawah pake sisa barang saya, trus panic selling, trus saya sendiri yg nampung diharga bawah jadi BUMI yg sedang distribusi, kemungkinan akan hit lowestnya tahun ini? seperti pak oen dan el bilang 2500? atau hal seperti ini distribusi, oleh si Lehboy yg harus jual barang2nya di saham2 blue chip, dengan umpan, saham2 non blue chip? mohon petunjukknya --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Iwan.Budi@ wrote: Mbah, Sebenarnya tujuan distribusi itu apa? Mau bikin PENTUNGAN... Bukannya lebih baik kalo distribusi pas lagi diatas, shg tdk 'kelihatan'? Kalo pas lagi gini, enaknya di'apain' saham2 yg lagi didistribusikan ? Member_dengan_wawasan_cekak From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant Sent: Thursday, 25 September 2008 1:14 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MA 50 MA 200 --- DISTRIBUTION PHASE --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar% 2540yahoogroups.com , dinda trinita dinda.trinita@ wrote: Mbah, Trio metal ANTM, INCO, TINS gimana mbah? Udah boleh masuk?? Saham yg LIKWID lagi DIBAGI dengan umpan saham yg ENGGA LIKWID !!! + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Berita PGAS mulai ramai, siap2 di tarik
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, agung aja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tapi kenapa TINS turun terus pak t_bumi ?? bukannya dari 3500 ke 1000 lalu reversal ke 1700 sudah termasuk great sale ?? plus saham TINS yang beredar di pasar jumlahnya relatif sedikit walaupun sudah ss 1:10 mohon penjelasan nya... thanks sip : tbumi TINS bukan sendiri saja yg turun saat ini, bahkan AALI, BUMI dll juga ikut turun karena regional hancur saat itu. Memang TINS pernah tembus di Rp. 1000an beberapa waktu lalu karena terjadi panik sell disaat muncul news Lehman B. bangkrut. Saat ini regional mulai hijau kembali dgn adanya deal dari kongress USA utk pemulihan ekonomi USA.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Lehman's portfolios in Indonesia
klo melihat skala penetrasi bisnis Lehman , ada kemungkinan MacQ jug terkena, masalah nya seberapa besar ? signifikan ato tidak ? klo bank lokal, baru BNI yg melaporkan adany exposure akibat kolapsnya Lehman. sedangkan utk bank asing yg beroperasi di Indo, HAMPIR SEMUANYA YA (citi, scb, hsbc) Make the switch to the world#39;s best email. Get Yahoo!7 Mail! http://au.yahoo.com/y7mail
[obrolan-bandar] Re: OMG...DJIA +2 % Oil naik
Gak jadi pulang kampung dong, yah? :) Salam, --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, sulistyo_winarto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Semoga bertahan sampai penutupan. newbie ketiduran digerbong, lupa turun di stasiun. Salam
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: OMG...DJIA +2 % Oil nai
pak Boyz, gimana tuh komentar ente soal portofolio si Leman di Indonesia? Klo pegang, apa lepas dolo? 2008/9/25 boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Gak jadi pulang kampung dong, yah? :) Salam, --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, sulistyo_winarto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Semoga bertahan sampai penutupan. newbie ketiduran digerbong, lupa turun di stasiun. Salam
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUBA
--- Quote --- SIP : TBUMI Harga tiket bis TRUB dari supir TRUB :Sebelum libur lebaran : Rp. 200 - End Quote --- Mudah2 bisa dapet nih Pak TBumi, soalnya kalo target nopek sebelum lebaran, berarti tinggal 2hr lg dunx :) Sent from TradingBerry� sponsored by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:04:48 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUBA --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Herman Tobing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks again for your analysis. Mudah-mudahan besok sudah nopek Salam Herman SIP : TBUMI Harga tiket bis TRUB dari supir TRUB : Sebelum libur lebaran : Rp. 200 Sebelum Natal : Rp. 1000 Awal tahun 2009 : Rp. 1500 Rencana kenaikan harga bis TRUB tentu harus didukung oleh bursa regional yg rebound. Kemungkinan besar bursa DOWJ bisa kembali hijau terus karena kongress USA sdh hampir setuju / deal dgn paket peyelamatan ekonomi yg baru.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: OMG...DJIA +2 % Oil naik
Jadilah, khan dah di kasih COAN sama TRUB n yang laen. Mbah tmn2 OB gw Cuti maen saham dulu, maw liburan d kampung. Cz ga bs monitor, Takut NYUNGSEP. Klo sampai relly lagi, selamet dech bagi yg msh pegang. Ntar klo habis lebaran lanjut lagi. Selamat Hari Raya Idul Fitri 1429 H. Mohon maaf lahir batin. Regards, PTLS --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gak jadi pulang kampung dong, yah? :) Salam, --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, sulistyo_winarto sulistyo_winarto@ wrote: Semoga bertahan sampai penutupan. newbie ketiduran digerbong, lupa turun di stasiun. Salam
[obrolan-bandar] Undangan buat yang dah Mudik
Buat yang dah mudik, ada undangan dari Kongres Amerika yang katanya mau bagi-bagi sedekah di Market,,, Ayo cepetan balik, pake kereta komo aja biar cepat nyampe...Hehehe Nb : Tiket ditanggung masing-masing!!!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: OMG...DJIA +2 % Oil naik
Keknya DJI ga kuat nanjak.. 1. Masak berita disetujui Bail Out cuman ngangkat DJI 200 point? Padahal kemarin2 sempat ngangkat 400an point 2. 80 menit sebelum closing kembali muncul downtrend --- On Fri, 26/9/08, Petualang Saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Petualang Saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: OMG...DJIA +2 % Oil naik To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 26 September, 2008, 1:32 AM Jadilah, khan dah di kasih COAN sama TRUB n yang laen. Mbah tmn2 OB gw Cuti maen saham dulu, maw liburan d kampung. Cz ga bs monitor, Takut NYUNGSEP. Klo sampai relly lagi, selamet dech bagi yg msh pegang. Ntar klo habis lebaran lanjut lagi. Selamat Hari Raya Idul Fitri 1429 H. Mohon maaf lahir batin. Regards, PTLS --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gak jadi pulang kampung dong, yah? :) Salam, --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, sulistyo_winarto sulistyo_winarto@ wrote: Semoga bertahan sampai penutupan. newbie ketiduran digerbong, lupa turun di stasiun. Salam Get your new Email address! Grab the Email name you#39;ve always wanted before someone else does! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/aa/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUBA
Naik kereta api TRUB ... TRUB ...TRUB Siapa hendak ikut Ke puncak , bulan dan bintang Naik kereta lebih cepat dari bis , karena tidak macet . Sudah pasti TRUBslahnya naik, biasanya 150 % . Tetap hati-hati banyak copet. Selamat berlebaran. 2008/9/25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Quote --- SIP : TBUMI Harga tiket bis TRUB dari supir TRUB :Sebelum libur lebaran : Rp. 200 - End Quote --- Mudah2 bisa dapet nih Pak TBumi, soalnya kalo target nopek sebelum lebaran, berarti tinggal 2hr lg dunx :) Sent from TradingBerry(R) sponsored by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -- *From*: t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Date*: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:04:48 - *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUBA --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Herman Tobing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks again for your analysis. Mudah-mudahan besok sudah nopek Salam Herman SIP : TBUMI Harga tiket bis TRUB dari supir TRUB : Sebelum libur lebaran : Rp. 200 Sebelum Natal : Rp. 1000 Awal tahun 2009 : Rp. 1500 Rencana kenaikan harga bis TRUB tentu harus didukung oleh bursa regional yg rebound. Kemungkinan besar bursa DOWJ bisa kembali hijau terus karena kongress USA sdh hampir setuju / deal dgn paket peyelamatan ekonomi yg baru.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: OMG...DJIA +2 % Oil naik
close bukan closed = sudah hampir tapi belum disetujui put your bet ;) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keknya DJI ga kuat nanjak.. 1. Masak berita disetujui Bail Out cuman ngangkat DJI 200 point? Padahal kemarin2 sempat ngangkat 400an point 2. 80 menit sebelum closing kembali muncul downtrend --- On Fri, 26/9/08, Petualang Saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Petualang Saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: OMG...DJIA +2 % Oil naik To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 26 September, 2008, 1:32 AM
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUBA
Bung Tobingbeberapa hari terus memicu diskusi TRUB...inseder trading...heee.tapi hati2.kereta TRU hari ini n kedepan lewat banyak tikungan...menurun... Herman Tobing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Naik kereta api TRUB ... TRUB ...TRUB Siapa hendak ikut Ke puncak , bulan dan bintang Naik kereta lebih cepat dari bis , karena tidak macet . Sudah pasti TRUBslahnya naik, biasanya 150 % . Tetap hati-hati banyak copet. Selamat berlebaran. 2008/9/25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Quote --- SIP : TBUMI Harga tiket bis TRUB dari supir TRUB :Sebelum libur lebaran : Rp. 200 - End Quote --- Mudah2 bisa dapet nih Pak TBumi, soalnya kalo target nopek sebelum lebaran, berarti tinggal 2hr lg dunx :) Sent from TradingBerry® sponsored by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT - From: t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:04:48 - To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUBA --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Herman Tobing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks again for your analysis. Mudah-mudahan besok sudah nopek Salam Herman SIP : TBUMI Harga tiket bis TRUB dari supir TRUB : Sebelum libur lebaran : Rp. 200 Sebelum Natal : Rp. 1000 Awal tahun 2009 : Rp. 1500 Rencana kenaikan harga bis TRUB tentu harus didukung oleh bursa regional yg rebound. Kemungkinan besar bursa DOWJ bisa kembali hijau terus karena kongress USA sdh hampir setuju / deal dgn paket peyelamatan ekonomi yg baru. - Tired of visiting multiple sites for showtimes? Yahoo! Movies is all you need
[obrolan-bandar] Sepi Pasar Menjelang Idulfitri
Salam Para Trader, [:)] Nilai transaksi saham di Bursa Efek Indonesia (BEI) pada tiga hari terakhir ini berangsur menipis, karena pemodal cenderung memilih tidak masuk pasar menjelang libur panjang Idulfitri. Seiring dengan penurunan indeks harga saham gabungan (IHSG), nilai transaksi saham kemarin menyusut menjadi Rp2,82 triliun. Angka ini lebih dari separuh rata-rata transaksi harian dalam dua pekan terakhir ini, yang mencapai Rp4,45 triliun. Kapitalisasi pasar saham di BEI kemarin mencapai Rp1.492,86 triliun. Pemodal lebih cenderung tidak bertransaksi menjelang Lebaran, sehingga nilai transaksi agak slow down, ujar Orias Petrus Moedak, Presdir PT Reliance Securities, ketika dihubungi Bisnis, kemarin. http://web.bisnis.com/edisi-cetak/edisi-harian/1id81292.html http://web.bisnis.com/edisi-cetak/edisi-harian/1id81292.html Informasi Liannya : Empat sekuritas ikuti seleksi buyback saham Antam http://web.bisnis.com/edisi-cetak/edisi-harian/bursa/1id81391.html Predikisi : Dekati Lebaran http://web.bisnis.com/edisi-cetak/edisi-harian/bursa/1id81396.html
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MA 50 MA 200 --- DISTRIBUTION PHASE
Ane dach jual sebagian PGAS di atas, smoga ntar turun dipentung p Oen...Enak bgt trading ni saham, cuman pake feeling... Orang sabar disayang bandar --- Pada Kam, 25/9/08, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: Dari: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MA 50 MA 200 --- DISTRIBUTION PHASE Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Kamis, 25 September, 2008, 3:13 AM --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, dinda trinita dinda.trinita@ ... wrote: Mbah, Trio metal ANTM, INCO, TINS gimana mbah? Udah boleh masuk?? Saham yg LIKWID lagi DIBAGI dengan umpan saham yg ENGGA LIKWID !!! ___ Yahoo! sekarang memiliki alamat Email baru. Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[obrolan-bandar] IHSG WARNING ( 1870 - 1900)
IHSG WARNING (1870 - 1900) Dowjones tadi malam naik +1,8% Jika hari ini IHSG engga bisa naik diatas 1900, berarti IHSG udah LOYO BANGET mau pingsan !!! http://www.invest2000.net/piwihsg.png
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: OMG...DJIA +2 % Oil naik
Betul Pak...jalannya masih panjang. Jangan2 ini alasan yang dipake nyangkut-ers di DJ untuk jualan..Ya, keguyur lagi dah Hundreds of Economists Urge Congress Not to Rush on Rescue Plan By Matthew Benjamin Sept. 25 (Bloomberg) http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/ news?pid= 20601087 sid=aNKGD. bJwmRArefer= home --- On Fri, 26/9/08, Hendra Santosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Hendra Santosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: OMG...DJIA +2 % Oil naik To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 26 September, 2008, 6:13 AM close bukan closed = sudah hampir tapi belum disetujui put your bet ;) --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Andi Wahyudi andi_wahyudi2000@ ... wrote: Keknya DJI ga kuat nanjak.. 1. Masak berita disetujui Bail Out cuman ngangkat DJI 200 point? Padahal kemarin2 sempat ngangkat 400an point 2. 80 menit sebelum closing kembali muncul downtrend --- On Fri, 26/9/08, Petualang Saham petualang.saham@ ... wrote: From: Petualang Saham petualang.saham@ ... Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: OMG...DJIA +2 % Oil naik To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Friday, 26 September, 2008, 1:32 AM Get your new Email address! Grab the Email name you#39;ve always wanted before someone else does! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/aa/
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Schwarzman on how we got here from there By: HousingWire staff September 25, 2008 Via the Wall Street Journal http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2008/09/24/wall-street-crisis-stephen-schwarzman-explains-it-all/?mod=sp_deals , Blackstone chairman Stephen Schwarzman put out perhaps the single most-succint description of a complex mess we've seen yet: It's a perfect storm. It started with Congress encouraging lending to lower-income people. You went from subprime loans being 2% of total loans in 2002 to 30% of total loans in 2006. That kind of enormous increase swept into the net people who shouldn't have been borrowing. Those loans were packaged into CDOs rated AAA, which led the investment-banking firms [buying them] to do little to no due diligence, and the securities were distributed throughout the world, where they started defaulting. When they started defaulting, out of bad luck or bad judgment, we implemented fair value accounting….You had wildly different marks for this kind of security, which led to massive write-offs by the commercial banking and investment-banking system. In the face of those losses…you needed to raise new equity…which came from sovereign-wealth funds in part, which then caused political resistance to sovereign-wealth funds, who predictably have withdrawn from putting money into the system….It seemed pretty obvious that would happen. We now find ourselves with a liquidity crisis where fundamentally the cost of money for financial intermediaries [such as investment banks] is significantly in excess of their cost of lending it. So several institutions found themselves in a structurally impossible position. We had a series of bankruptcies, whether Bear Stearns or Lehman, or forced sales like Merrill. Goldman reverted to a banking charter for a lower cost of funds, which today is still not low enough for the business. So that's the story of how we got there. Powered by bussBerry® buss offers a comprehensive holistic proven business model for entrepreneurs interested to own a long-term and sustainable distribution business. www.buss-life.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Sepi Pasar Menjelang Idulfitri
Ya iya lah Mbak... Yang kena pentung udah pusing Yang dapet coan udah kabur Dua-duanya dah siap libur (atau malah udah pada belibur?) Kalo situasinya seperti taun kemarin dan kemarinnya lagi sih, mo libur pun dijabanin deh nongkrongin price quote 2008/9/26 Anna Rainsakina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Salam Para Trader,[image: :)]* * Nilai transaksi saham di Bursa Efek Indonesia (BEI) pada tiga hari terakhir ini berangsur menipis, karena pemodal cenderung memilih tidak masuk pasar menjelang libur panjang Idulfitri. Seiring dengan penurunan indeks harga saham gabungan (IHSG), nilai transaksi saham kemarin menyusut menjadi Rp2,82 triliun. Angka ini lebih dari separuh rata-rata transaksi harian dalam dua pekan terakhir ini, yang mencapai Rp4,45 triliun. Kapitalisasi pasar saham di BEI kemarin mencapai Rp1.492,86 triliun. Pemodal lebih cenderung tidak bertransaksi menjelang Lebaran, sehingga nilai transaksi agak slow down, ujar Orias Petrus Moedak, Presdir PT Reliance Securities, ketika dihubungi Bisnis, kemarin. http://web.bisnis.com/edisi-cetak/edisi-harian/1id81292.html Informasi Liannya : *Empat sekuritas ikuti seleksi buyback saham Antamhttp://web.bisnis.com/edisi-cetak/edisi-harian/bursa/1id81391.html * *Predikisi : Dekati Lebaranhttp://web.bisnis.com/edisi-cetak/edisi-harian/bursa/1id81396.html *
Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG WARNING ( 1870 - 1900)
Pak, itu gambarnya kalau pake pitchfork jadi gitu. Kalau pakai fibonacci beda lagi. Jadi relatif dong ya. IHSG bukannya mo pingsan... tapi mau mudik... banteng ama beruangnya bersilahturahmi dulu sebelum berantem lagi.. heuhehehe 2008/9/26 jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] IHSG WARNING (1870 - 1900) Dowjones tadi malam naik +1,8% Jika hari ini IHSG engga bisa naik diatas 1900, berarti IHSG udah LOYO BANGET mau pingsan !!! http://www.invest2000.net/piwihsg.png + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG WARNING ( 1870 - 1900)
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Metroid X [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak, itu gambarnya kalau pake pitchfork jadi gitu. Kalau pakai fibonacci beda lagi. Jadi relatif dong ya. Menurut analisa anda: - Kalo pake Fibonacci apa Kesimpulannya ?
Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG WARNING ( 1870 - 1900)
Dow Jones after hours: -124 http://money.cnn.com/data/afterhours/ Regards, DE Pada 26 September 2008 07:58, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]menulis: IHSG WARNING (1870 - 1900) Dowjones tadi malam naik +1,8% Jika hari ini IHSG engga bisa naik diatas 1900, berarti IHSG udah LOYO BANGET mau pingsan !!! http://www.invest2000.net/piwihsg.png + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] ada akumulasi halus
Minyak ada di posisi mana Pak? Dasar penentuan urutan itu apa Pak? Thanks MD 2008/9/25 t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, simon bolenang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalau harga komoditi sudah stabil kemungkinan harga saham naik, asal harga komoditinya stabil bukan di harga rendah,. Kalau harga komoditinya rendah, sahamnya tetap saja ngak menarik bisa2 biaya produksinya sama/lebih tinggi dari harga jual komoditinya. Komoditi yg paling menarik saat ini Minyak /Gas/ Batu bara karena orang tetap saja pakai walau krismon, apalagi barang tsb habis terpakai, ngak bisa daur ulang. Kita tunggu si Komo datang sip : tbumi Urutan saham komoditi yg terbaik menurut versi kami : 1) CPO 2) batubara 3) Timah 4) Nikel dan Gas
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Yang mau ikutan hari ini boleh tuh Mira Dari : Broker Dhuafa
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUBA
Rusian Rollet in TRUB, pls enjoy it - Pesan Asli Dari: ari alex ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Jumat, 26 September, 2008 07:30:12 Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUBA Bung Tobingbeberapa hari terus memicu diskusi TRUB...inseder trading...heee. tapi hati2.kereta TRU hari ini n kedepan lewat banyak tikungan...menurun. .. Herman Tobing herman.tobing@ gmail.com wrote: Naik kereta api TRUB ... TRUB ...TRUB Siapa hendak ikut Ke puncak , bulan dan bintang Naik kereta lebih cepat dari bis , karena tidak macet . Sudah pasti TRUBslahnya naik, biasanya 150 % . Tetap hati-hati banyak copet. Selamat berlebaran. 2008/9/25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] funky81.trader@ gmail.com --- Quote --- SIP : TBUMI Harga tiket bis TRUB dari supir TRUB :Sebelum libur lebaran : Rp. 200 - End Quote --- Mudah2 bisa dapet nih Pak TBumi, soalnya kalo target nopek sebelum lebaran, berarti tinggal 2hr lg dunx :) Sent from TradingBerry® sponsored by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT From: t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.id Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:04:48 - To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUBA --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Herman Tobing herman.tobing@ ... wrote: Thanks again for your analysis. Mudah-mudahan besok sudah nopek Salam Herman SIP : TBUMI Harga tiket bis TRUB dari supir TRUB : Sebelum libur lebaran : Rp. 200 Sebelum Natal : Rp. 1000 Awal tahun 2009 : Rp. 1500 Rencana kenaikan harga bis TRUB tentu harus didukung oleh bursa regional yg rebound. Kemungkinan besar bursa DOWJ bisa kembali hijau terus karena kongress USA sdh hampir setuju / deal dgn paket peyelamatan ekonomi yg baru. Tired of visiting multiple sites for showtimes? Yahoo! Movies is all you need ___ Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] SIAP - SIAP YANG MAU DAPAT THR DARI MIRA
cari temen ya pak ??? --- On Thu, 9/25/08, hendriey prabowo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: hendriey prabowo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] SIAP - SIAP YANG MAU DAPAT THR DARI MIRA To: OBROLAN GILA obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 8:44 PM Yang mau ikutan hari ini boleh tuh Mira Dari : Broker Dhuafa
[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG WARNING ( 1870 - 1900)
Pak Metroid, kalo pake Fibo pun sekarang masih di 38.2 jadi masih jauh dari Fibo 50. Kemungkinan rebound masih besar, titik kritis ada di Fibo 50 kurang lebih index 1820. Jika tertembus kebawah artinya GOOD BYE... rgs, JM --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Metroid X metroidx86@ wrote: Pak, itu gambarnya kalau pake pitchfork jadi gitu. Kalau pakai fibonacci beda lagi. Jadi relatif dong ya. Menurut analisa anda: - Kalo pake Fibonacci apa Kesimpulannya ?
[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG WARNING ( 1870 - 1900)
Rencana Bailout belum tentu jadi karena ADA Alternative Plan dari kubu Republikan. Sector Finance di US malam ini bakal KEBAKARAN lagi dah !!! Makanya embah kasih target 1900, kalo 1900 udah ENGGA KUAT maka market ama BD akan ganti TARGET menyerang KEBAWAH... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dow Jones after hours: -124 http://money.cnn.com/data/afterhours/ Regards, DE Pada 26 September 2008 07:58, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]menulis: IHSG WARNING (1870 - 1900) Dowjones tadi malam naik +1,8% Jika hari ini IHSG engga bisa naik diatas 1900, berarti IHSG udah LOYO BANGET mau pingsan !!! http://www.invest2000.net/piwihsg.png + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG WARNING ( 1870 - 1900)
perang perangan hati-hati aja... akhir bulan.. ntar tanggal 1 peraturan medan perang bisa berubah. Kali ini musti wasitnya ikutan dianalisa sebelum terjun perang 2008/9/26 jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rencana Bailout belum tentu jadi karena ADA Alternative Plan dari kubu Republikan. Sector Finance di US malam ini bakal KEBAKARAN lagi dah !!! Makanya embah kasih target 1900, kalo 1900 udah ENGGA KUAT maka market ama BD akan ganti TARGET menyerang KEBAWAH... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dow Jones after hours: -124 http://money.cnn.com/data/afterhours/ Regards, DE Pada 26 September 2008 07:58, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]menulis: IHSG WARNING (1870 - 1900) Dowjones tadi malam naik +1,8% Jika hari ini IHSG engga bisa naik diatas 1900, berarti IHSG udah LOYO BANGET mau pingsan !!! http://www.invest2000.net/piwihsg.png + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Mr. Frezzz; sekuritas??????
Maaf ..saya mau ikutan kasih info..setahu saya Forex dan Sekuritas sangat berbeda jauh...di Forex..uang kita bisa habis. karena uang kita masuk dulu kan.. lalu di akalin para sales/marketing/trader/perusahaan...tapi di sekuritas..kita deposit..dan bisa beli saham lebih..dari deposit kita...dan hari ke 3 kita bayar..dan kalo ada kejanggalan langsung aja minta penjelasan sekuritas tersebut jika sekuritas memberikan penjelasan tidak transparan (ada yang ditutupi) langsung aja mengadu ke Bapepam...dan Bapepam melakukan tindakan..memang ada oknum dari marketing/sales sekuritas yang nakal..tapi tidak usah takut selama marketing/sales tsb masih sebagai pegawai perusahaan yang bersangkutan.. perusahaan tersebut harus bertanggung jawab atas tindak tanduk pegawainya yang merugikan nasabah... salam (maaf bila ada yang tdk berkenan) Obelix Pada 25 September 2008 16:38, Kim Liong Oei [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: Mr. Frezzz, boleh informasinya ttg sekuritas yang kabur. Kalau ada pengalaman/info bisa di share. Serem soalnya. Tks. - Pesan Asli Dari: freez z [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Kamis, 25 September, 2008 12:27:10 Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Nanya E-Trading kalau mau tarik dana gampang, tinggal klik. cuma ga amannya takut sekuritasnya kabur dan uang sering hilang. --- On Wed, 9/24/08, STANISLAUS70 STANISLAUS70 stanislaus70@ yahoo.com wrote: From: STANISLAUS70 STANISLAUS70 stanislaus70@ yahoo.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Nanya E-Trading To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 9:31 PM Rekan2, Mohon mengenai E-Trading gitu aman ngak ya? Kalo mau tarik dana kita problem ngak? Thanks Stanis70 Nama baru untuk Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di bidang Anda di Yahoo! Answers
[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG WARNING ( 1870 - 1900)
Peraturan apa pak Halim ?. Rencana Bail out bisa MACET karena URUSAN POLITIK pemilihan Presiden, Obama sudah mengakui hal ini ... Euro dan minyak yg menguat akan menjadi signal dari KEMACETAN rencana Bailout yg ditanggung RAKYAT atau WALLSTREET, jadi perhatikan saja EURO dan MINYAK hari ini... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: perang perangan hati-hati aja... akhir bulan.. ntar tanggal 1 peraturan medan perang bisa berubah. Kali ini musti wasitnya ikutan dianalisa sebelum terjun perang 2008/9/26 jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rencana Bailout belum tentu jadi karena ADA Alternative Plan dari kubu Republikan. Sector Finance di US malam ini bakal KEBAKARAN lagi dah !!! Makanya embah kasih target 1900, kalo 1900 udah ENGGA KUAT maka market ama BD akan ganti TARGET menyerang KEBAWAH... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ wrote: Dow Jones after hours: -124 http://money.cnn.com/data/afterhours/ Regards, DE Pada 26 September 2008 07:58, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@menulis: IHSG WARNING (1870 - 1900) Dowjones tadi malam naik +1,8% Jika hari ini IHSG engga bisa naik diatas 1900, berarti IHSG udah LOYO BANGET mau pingsan !!! http://www.invest2000.net/piwihsg.png + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
[obrolan-bandar] Mumpung murah lagi... beli...
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG WARNING ( 1870 - 1900)
Short sell di finansial sector diperbolehkan lagi mbah Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 02:10:53 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG WARNING ( 1870 - 1900) Peraturan apa pak Halim ?. Rencana Bail out bisa MACET karena URUSAN POLITIK pemilihan Presiden, Obama sudah mengakui hal ini ... Euro dan minyak yg menguat akan menjadi signal dari KEMACETAN rencana Bailout yg ditanggung RAKYAT atau WALLSTREET, jadi perhatikan saja EURO dan MINYAK hari ini... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: perang perangan hati-hati aja... akhir bulan.. ntar tanggal 1 peraturan medan perang bisa berubah. Kali ini musti wasitnya ikutan dianalisa sebelum terjun perang 2008/9/26 jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rencana Bailout belum tentu jadi karena ADA Alternative Plan dari kubu Republikan. Sector Finance di US malam ini bakal KEBAKARAN lagi dah !!! Makanya embah kasih target 1900, kalo 1900 udah ENGGA KUAT maka market ama BD akan ganti TARGET menyerang KEBAWAH... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ wrote: Dow Jones after hours: -124 http://money.cnn.com/data/afterhours/ Regards, DE Pada 26 September 2008 07:58, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@menulis: IHSG WARNING (1870 - 1900) Dowjones tadi malam naik +1,8% Jika hari ini IHSG engga bisa naik diatas 1900, berarti IHSG udah LOYO BANGET mau pingsan !!! http://www.invest2000.net/piwihsg.png + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG WARNING ( 1870 - 1900)
Mungkin mksd pak Halim adalah peraturan ttg Daftar Saham yg blh di short yg dikeluarkan setiap awal bulan tgl 1 bener sekali WASITnya HRS diperiksa ...KPK bilang mereka perlu BUKTI2 bkn hanya sekedar LAPORAN salam 2008/9/26 jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] IHSG WARNING (1870 - 1900) Dowjones tadi malam naik +1,8% Jika hari ini IHSG engga bisa naik diatas 1900, berarti IHSG udah LOYO BANGET mau pingsan !!! http://www.invest2000.net/piwihsg.png
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Zakat Saham
CMIIW Kalau saya pakai: Dalam 1 tahun trading dihitung gain/nilai saham yang dimiliki kemudian kali 2,5 % untuk saham. Misalnya Tgl 25 Sep 2007 mulai trading dengan modal Rp. 100 jt kemudian tgl 25 Sept 2008, hitung kekayaan dari modal tsb (harga close) dikalikan 2,5 %. Salam SR http://tentangsaham.gate.hk 2008/9/25 abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eh cuekin aja yuk bandar buang2 Ntar klo udah new low baru ikutan masuk. Tahun lalu kesimpulan obrolan tentang zakat saham itu gimana jadinya? + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
[obrolan-bandar] JANGAN KALAH
Kemarin ada peristiwa pembunuhan satu keluarga (suami, istri dan 2 anak yang lucu2) di Surabaya yang diindikasikan bunuh diri, dilakukan oleh sang Ayah. Penyebabnya diindikasikan depresi karena kalah/rugi dalam FOREX/VALAS. Saya sebagai seorang Ayah dan Suami, sangat sangat sangat amat sedih mendengar hal ini dan ingin berbagi dengan teman2 di milis, hal2 sbb: Dalam kehidupan ini adalah sudah biasa kita mendapat untung dan juga rugi. Kita bisa mendapatkan, juga pasti bisa kehilangan. Jika ada diantara teman2 yang menderita kerugian besar, jangan bersedih terus. Sedih memang, tapi jangan terus2an. Mari kita bangkit untuk membangun masa depan, keluarga yang kita cintai dan masyarakat sekitar kita. Jika masih sedih, maka ada baiknya menemui teman, pembimbing rohani atau siapa saja yang menurut anda baik. Meski hari sudah amat malam, temui saja. Ceritakan dan lepaskan semua beban anda. Jangan anda simpan sendiri. Jika masih belum lepas beban anda, temui lagi/terus teman, pembimbing rohani atau siapa saja yang menurut anda baik. Ceritakan lagi .Berdoalah menurut kenyakinan anda dan percayalah, jika kita memimpikan sesuatu yang baik, kemudian berbuat dan terus menerus berbuat, maka kita pasti akan jauh lebih baik nantinya. Kebahagian dan masa depan keluarga TIDAK berhubungan langsung 100% dengan materi. Materi hanyalah salah satu penunjang. Yang paling penting adalah HATI tulus kita utk lebih mencintai keluarga. Saya memiliki teman yang hanya operator boiler saja, tapi anaknya mendapat beasiswa kedokteran di luar negeri. Dari segi materi mereka tidak kekurangan, karena mereka bisa bersyukur dan mengatur keuangan secara bijak. Tidak perlu korupsi, he he he (bercanda sedikit boleh.com) Saya sendiri masih terus belajar dan hanya ingin berbagi. Semoga ini bermanfaat dan dengan peristiwa ini kita boleh berkaca bahwa kita mesti lebih menyayangi keluarga kita dan masyarakat sekitar kita. ___ Yahoo! sekarang memiliki alamat Email baru. Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] SIAP - SIAP YANG MAU DAPAT THR DARI MIRA
bandarnya kayaknya lagi diem tuh pak.. mungkin nggak bagi thr tahun ini heheh --- On Thu, 9/25/08, Bambang Setiawan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bambang Setiawan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] SIAP - SIAP YANG MAU DAPAT THR DARI MIRA To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 8:51 PM cari temen ya pak ??? --- On Thu, 9/25/08, hendriey prabowo hendriey_news@ yahoo.com wrote: From: hendriey prabowo hendriey_news@ yahoo.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] SIAP - SIAP YANG MAU DAPAT THR DARI MIRA To: OBROLAN GILA obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 8:44 PM Yang mau ikutan hari ini boleh tuh Mira Dari : Broker Dhuafa
