Re: [JT] RE: [ob] B U M I
Follow you, no fear No risk no gain, but with tight MM for sure Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:14:02 To: jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com Cc: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [JT] RE: [ob] B U M I Bisa.., jangan kabur kalo disamperin.., only kabur kalau close lower.., do this with TIGHT MM !! yg ngga sanggup CL nonton dulu.., this is high risk trading ! From: jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jul prima Sent: 21 Oktober 2009 11:12 To: jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [JT] RE: [ob] B U M I antri sudah bisa dong?di daerah tsb? On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 11:10 AM, ikameili...@yahoo.com wrote: Dah pengen ya prof?? Sent from my BerryR _ From: JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:06:56 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Cc: jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [JT] RE: [ob] B U M I KOKANG dulu..., jangan main tembak aje.., kalo masuk jarak tembak baru kite beri.., kalo dipentung kite mabur., hehe.., come on.., make my day !! From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fifi young Sent: 21 Oktober 2009 11:05 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] B U M I be ready for nyopet...! SERBU...! 2009/10/21 JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com Garis merah merupakan area nyopet.., let see om BD berani masuk daerah itu ngga., silahkan Om. J JT bumi.png No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com/ Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.21/2445 - Release Date: 10/20/09 18:42:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.21/2445 - Release Date: 10/20/09 18:42:00 image001.png
Re: [ob] BNBR
Pak sekarang gimana mending Hold Or Cutloss ? On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 2:04 PM, JsxSniper jsxsni...@yahoo.co.id wrote: BNBR boleh collect neh 123-124... tp disiplin kl 120-121 cutloss..
[ob] B U M I 3.600 - 4000 CUMI tuh...!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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RE: [ob] B U M I
Wah..kalau dikasih lengkap-lengkap ntar BD nya ngamuk he he From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paulus Tangke Allo Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:48 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] B U M I bos Tasrul, kayaknya chart-nya ada satu lagi deh yang ketinggalan ;) --pta 2009/10/21 Tasrul tas...@overseas.co.id mailto:Tasrul%40overseas.co.id Masa gak berani ya gak Om Art ? , risk reward
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Kalo diteken2 terus bijinya - jadinya sakit 'dong, 'Fi - kecuali diteken yg laen2 *Wuahahaha...[?][?][?]* 2009/10/21 Paulus Tangke Allo paulu...@gmail.com ya ampyunn bu fifi...masih pagi begini, ngarepinnya pake muncrat...hehehe --pta 2009/10/21 fifi young fifiyoun...@gmail.com fifiyoung03%40gmail.com berani teken teruzzz..? sampe muncraaat ya bozz...!
Re: [ob] ADRO...!
Wew ADROny ditarik td! Great ms.Fifi:) -- Best regards, Handy Lugiman Sales Equity PT. Panin Sekuritas Tbk, Jl. Raya Boulevard Barat Blok LC 6 No.55 Jakarta Utara 14240 - Indonesia Tel. : (62-21) 4585 3345 Fax: (62-21) 450 7907 Mobile : 0819 3295 4733 BB pin : 21066CFD YM id : handy_pans Email : handy...@pans.co.id Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -Original Message- From: fifi young fifiyoun...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:44:39 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] ADRO...! Watch closely...!
Re: [JT] RE: [ob] B U M I
Ok ya nanti klo pas ada yg cocok jadwalnya aja Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: ft...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 06:08:06 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [JT] RE: [ob] B U M I Follow you, no fear No risk no gain, but with tight MM for sure Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:14:02 To: jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com Cc: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [JT] RE: [ob] B U M I Bisa.., jangan kabur kalo disamperin.., only kabur kalau close lower.., do this with TIGHT MM !! yg ngga sanggup CL nonton dulu.., this is high risk trading ! From: jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jul prima Sent: 21 Oktober 2009 11:12 To: jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [JT] RE: [ob] B U M I antri sudah bisa dong?di daerah tsb? On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 11:10 AM, ikameili...@yahoo.com wrote: Dah pengen ya prof?? Sent from my BerryR _ From: JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:06:56 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Cc: jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [JT] RE: [ob] B U M I KOKANG dulu..., jangan main tembak aje.., kalo masuk jarak tembak baru kite beri.., kalo dipentung kite mabur., hehe.., come on.., make my day !! From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fifi young Sent: 21 Oktober 2009 11:05 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] B U M I be ready for nyopet...! SERBU...! 2009/10/21 JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com Garis merah merupakan area nyopet.., let see om BD berani masuk daerah itu ngga., silahkan Om. J JT bumi.png No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com/ Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.21/2445 - Release Date: 10/20/09 18:42:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.21/2445 - Release Date: 10/20/09 18:42:00 image001.png
[ob] BUMI after lunch 21/10/09 - akankah menembus ke bawah?
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Re: [JT] RE: [ob] B U M I
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[ob] DJI Forecast 211009
20 Oct 2009 DJIA Closing price: 10,041.4 Next Trading Day Forecast: DOWN The Dow’s correction should continue on Wednesday Re-posted at: http://trend-traders.com/2009/10/dji-forecast-211009/ Kind Regards, Aditya www.trend-traders.com Disclaimer:Tabik sujud di kaki Anda semua dan mohon maaf jika ada hal yang belum sempurna The materialspresented on this website are solely for informational purposes and arenot intended as investment or trading advice. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[ob] DJI Forecast 211009
20 Oct 2009 DJIA Closing price: 10,041.4 Next Trading Day Forecast: DOWN The Dow’s correction should continue on Wednesday Re-posted at: http://trend-traders.com/2009/10/dji-forecast-211009/ Kind Regards, Aditya www.trend-traders.com Disclaimer:Tabik sujud di kaki Anda semua dan mohon maaf jika ada hal yang belum sempurna The materialspresented on this website are solely for informational purposes and arenot intended as investment or trading advice.
Re: [ob] ADRO...!
yup sel selll selll selll --- On Wed, 10/21/09, JsxSniper jsxsni...@yahoo.co.id wrote: From: JsxSniper jsxsni...@yahoo.co.id Subject: Re: [ob] ADRO...! To: Obrolan bandar obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 5:13 AM Not yet.. - One Shoot One Kill -From: fifi young fifiyoung03@ gmail.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:44:39 +0700To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comSubject: [ob] ADRO...! Watch closely...!
Bls: [ob] BNBR
kalo bnbr perhatikan bumi jg pakpergerakan sangat terpengaruh bumi Dari: BEJ Watch bej.wa...@gmail.com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rab, 21 Oktober, 2009 13:10:41 Judul: Re: [ob] BNBR Pak sekarang gimana mending Hold Or Cutloss ? On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 2:04 PM, JsxSniper jsxsni...@yahoo. co.id wrote: BNBR boleh collect neh 123-124... tp disiplin kl 120-121 cutloss.. Pemerintahan yang jujur bersih? Mungkin nggak ya? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers! http://id.answers.yahoo.com
Re: [ob] ADRO...!
Adro, let's play Buy High Sell Higher, disc is ON Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Handy Panin Gading handy_p...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:48:46 To: OBobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] ADRO...! Wew ADROny ditarik td! Great ms.Fifi:) -- Best regards, Handy Lugiman Sales Equity PT. Panin Sekuritas Tbk, Jl. Raya Boulevard Barat Blok LC 6 No.55 Jakarta Utara 14240 - Indonesia Tel. : (62-21) 4585 3345 Fax: (62-21) 450 7907 Mobile : 0819 3295 4733 BB pin : 21066CFD YM id : handy_pans Email : handy...@pans.co.id Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -Original Message- From: fifi young fifiyoun...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:44:39 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] ADRO...! Watch closely...!
Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi
*Wow it took 3 months for this one to be avail to public?* On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sanjaya mysanjaya...@gmail.com wrote: -- *From: *Sonny John sonny.j...@e-samuel.com *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:17:40 +0700 *Subject: *FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Please see latest GS research on ASEAN Metals and Mining (Coal), and on Bumi and Adaro. *Stock GS Rating Current Px * *12 Month Target Px ** * *Bumi Resources (BUMI.IJ)**Sell**Idr **2,850 **Idr **2,300 * *Adaro (ADRO.IJ) **Buy **Idr **1,510 ** Idr **2,800* ** *Key Summary Points:-* · * **Rising oil prices are positive for coal equities* Historically, thermal coal prices have been highly correlated to oil prices (88% over the past 10 years), and so have coal stock prices (87% correlated since 2003). We are positive on the outlook for oil, and last month we raised our 2010E and 2011E oil price forecasts to US$90/bbl and US$110/bbl, respectively, on stronger demand projections (our report from September 24, 2009, “Global: Energy: Oil—Recovery and relapse, v2”). · * **No major supply destruction, some projects nearing completion* Despite the downturn, there has not been any major reduction in thermal coal capex and in fact several projects are nearing completion. Australia’s new third coal port terminal (NCIG) is expected to ship first coal in early 2010E, with a full ramp-up by 2011 (representing a 30% expansion in export capacity). Meanwhile, we estimate that Indonesian coal producers may increase capacity by 40% by year-end 2010E. Our global thermal coal supply-demand estimates indicate that the supply surplus in 2009E is likely to narrow in 2010E due to stronger demand, but it is still in surplus. · * **Coal price upcycle may lag oil, initiate with neutral stance* Given our positive view on oil prices, we are forecasting higher thermal coal prices over 2009E-2011E. However, with a stronger supply availability of coal, we believe that the coal price cycle may lag oil. Currently thermal coal prices are 20% of oil on an energy-equivalent basis, which is below the historical average of 26% (the historical range is 14%-51%). On an annual average basis we see coal as a percentage of oil declining from 25% in 2009E to 17% in 2011E. We are initiating coverage on the sector with a neutral stance. · * **Stock selective approach; Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi* Adaro is our top pick, given attractive valuations and a strong earnings growth trend as its low-priced legacy contracts expire. Meanwhile, we rate Bumi Resources as Sell due to rising capital costs, its increasing debt load and declining ROIC. We initiate on Straits Asia and Bukit Asam at Neutral. · * **Risks* Upside risks to our views and price targets include a disruption in the global coal supply chain (e.g., from bad weather, port congestion) causing coal prices to spike or China coal demand being stronger than we expect; downside risks include China’s small mines restarting operations. - *Latest Research* ASEAN Metals Mining Coal 21 OCt.pdf Goldman, Sachs Co. Member SIPC/NASD. CONFIDENTIALITY: The information contained in or attached to this electronic transmission is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you are not the named recipient, you are hereby notified that any distribution, copying, review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this electronic transmission or the information contained in it is strictly prohibited. The information expressed herein may contain the private views and opinions of the sender that does not constitute the formal views and opinions of PT. Danareksa (Persero) and its subsidiaries, and should not in any ways be construed as the views, offers, or acceptances of these entities, unless specifically stated. PT. Danareksa (Persero) and its subsidiaries does not take any responsibilities nor accepts any claims of liabilities and/or damages for statements which are clearly the sender's own and not made on behalf of the entities concerned.
[ob] Apa itu Fractal ?
Apa itu Fractal ? Fractal adalah PERUBAHAN PERILAKU kata si Bill Contoh: - Keadaan kebakaran menjadi tidak kebakaran adalah suatu Fractal - Perubahan harga yg asalnya downtrend menjadi uptrend adalah suatu Fractal. Jika harga berubah dari turun menjadi naik disebut Fractal Down (Bentuk V). Jika harga berubah dari naik menjadi turun disebut Fractal Up (V terbalik). Menggapa Fractal ini penting kata si Bill ? Karena semua pergerakan harga yg BESAR berasal dari fractal ini, jadi Fractal ini sangat penting. Fractal ini seperti titik api yg bisa menjadi kebakaran besar atau malah padam, tapi tidak mungkin ada kebakaran besar bila tidak diawali titik api kecil. Pada gambar dibawah terlihat banyak Fractal (Black Diamond), Fractal2 ini ada yg tidak significant TAPI ada yang menjadi TITIK REVERSAL. Jadi titik titik Fractal ini harus diawasi http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbumi.png
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Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi
itu karena dia mau jualan ADRO yang udah beli dr 3 bulan lalu dan mau beli BUMI --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, It's Elaine! elainesu...@... wrote: *Wow it took 3 months for this one to be avail to public?* On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sanjaya mysanjaya...@... wrote: -- *From: *Sonny John sonny.j...@... *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:17:40 +0700 *Subject: *FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Please see latest GS research on ASEAN Metals and Mining (Coal), and on Bumi and Adaro. *Stock GS Rating Current Px * *12 Month Target Px ** * *Bumi Resources (BUMI.IJ)**Sell**Idr **2,850 **Idr **2,300 * *Adaro (ADRO.IJ) **Buy **Idr **1,510 ** Idr **2,800* ** *Key Summary Points:-* · * **Rising oil prices are positive for coal equities* Historically, thermal coal prices have been highly correlated to oil prices (88% over the past 10 years), and so have coal stock prices (87% correlated since 2003). We are positive on the outlook for oil, and last month we raised our 2010E and 2011E oil price forecasts to US$90/bbl and US$110/bbl, respectively, on stronger demand projections (our report from September 24, 2009, Global: Energy: OilRecovery and relapse, v2). · * **No major supply destruction, some projects nearing completion* Despite the downturn, there has not been any major reduction in thermal coal capex and in fact several projects are nearing completion. Australia's new third coal port terminal (NCIG) is expected to ship first coal in early 2010E, with a full ramp-up by 2011 (representing a 30% expansion in export capacity). Meanwhile, we estimate that Indonesian coal producers may increase capacity by 40% by year-end 2010E. Our global thermal coal supply-demand estimates indicate that the supply surplus in 2009E is likely to narrow in 2010E due to stronger demand, but it is still in surplus. · * **Coal price upcycle may lag oil, initiate with neutral stance* Given our positive view on oil prices, we are forecasting higher thermal coal prices over 2009E-2011E. However, with a stronger supply availability of coal, we believe that the coal price cycle may lag oil. Currently thermal coal prices are 20% of oil on an energy-equivalent basis, which is below the historical average of 26% (the historical range is 14%-51%). On an annual average basis we see coal as a percentage of oil declining from 25% in 2009E to 17% in 2011E. We are initiating coverage on the sector with a neutral stance. · * **Stock selective approach; Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi* Adaro is our top pick, given attractive valuations and a strong earnings growth trend as its low-priced legacy contracts expire. Meanwhile, we rate Bumi Resources as Sell due to rising capital costs, its increasing debt load and declining ROIC. We initiate on Straits Asia and Bukit Asam at Neutral. · * **Risks* Upside risks to our views and price targets include a disruption in the global coal supply chain (e.g., from bad weather, port congestion) causing coal prices to spike or China coal demand being stronger than we expect; downside risks include China's small mines restarting operations. - *Latest Research* ASEAN Metals Mining Coal 21 OCt.pdf Goldman, Sachs Co. Member SIPC/NASD. CONFIDENTIALITY: The information contained in or attached to this electronic transmission is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you are not the named recipient, you are hereby notified that any distribution, copying, review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this electronic transmission or the information contained in it is strictly prohibited. The information expressed herein may contain the private views and opinions of the sender that does not constitute the formal views and opinions of PT. Danareksa (Persero) and its subsidiaries, and should not in any ways be construed as the views, offers, or acceptances of these entities, unless specifically stated. PT. Danareksa (Persero) and its subsidiaries does not take any responsibilities nor accepts any claims of liabilities and/or damages for statements which are clearly the sender's own and not made on behalf of the entities concerned.
Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi
*I think so. Selling up to 2800? [?]* On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:46 PM, troyan troyan...@yahoo.com wrote: itu karena dia mau jualan ADRO yang udah beli dr 3 bulan lalu dan mau beli BUMI --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, It's Elaine! elainesu...@... wrote: *Wow it took 3 months for this one to be avail to public?* On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sanjaya mysanjaya...@... wrote: -- *From: *Sonny John sonny.j...@... *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:17:40 +0700 *Subject: *FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Please see latest GS research on ASEAN Metals and Mining (Coal), and on Bumi and Adaro. *Stock GS Rating Current Px * *12 Month Target Px ** * *Bumi Resources (BUMI.IJ)**Sell**Idr **2,850 **Idr **2,300 * *Adaro (ADRO.IJ) **Buy **Idr **1,510 ** Idr **2,800* ** *Key Summary Points:-* · * **Rising oil prices are positive for coal equities* Historically, thermal coal prices have been highly correlated to oil prices (88% over the past 10 years), and so have coal stock prices (87% correlated since 2003). We are positive on the outlook for oil, and last month we raised our 2010E and 2011E oil price forecasts to US$90/bbl and US$110/bbl, respectively, on stronger demand projections (our report from September 24, 2009, Global: Energy: Oil—Recovery and relapse, v2). · * **No major supply destruction, some projects nearing completion* Despite the downturn, there has not been any major reduction in thermal coal capex and in fact several projects are nearing completion. Australia's new third coal port terminal (NCIG) is expected to ship first coal in early 2010E, with a full ramp-up by 2011 (representing a 30% expansion in export capacity). Meanwhile, we estimate that Indonesian coal producers may increase capacity by 40% by year-end 2010E. Our global thermal coal supply-demand estimates indicate that the supply surplus in 2009E is likely to narrow in 2010E due to stronger demand, but it is still in surplus. · * **Coal price upcycle may lag oil, initiate with neutral stance* Given our positive view on oil prices, we are forecasting higher thermal coal prices over 2009E-2011E. However, with a stronger supply availability of coal, we believe that the coal price cycle may lag oil. Currently thermal coal prices are 20% of oil on an energy-equivalent basis, which is below the historical average of 26% (the historical range is 14%-51%). On an annual average basis we see coal as a percentage of oil declining from 25% in 2009E to 17% in 2011E. We are initiating coverage on the sector with a neutral stance. · * **Stock selective approach; Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi* Adaro is our top pick, given attractive valuations and a strong earnings growth trend as its low-priced legacy contracts expire. Meanwhile, we rate Bumi Resources as Sell due to rising capital costs, its increasing debt load and declining ROIC. We initiate on Straits Asia and Bukit Asam at Neutral. · * **Risks* Upside risks to our views and price targets include a disruption in the global coal supply chain (e.g., from bad weather, port congestion) causing coal prices to spike or China coal demand being stronger than we expect; downside risks include China's small mines restarting operations. - *Latest Research* ASEAN Metals Mining Coal 21 OCt.pdf Goldman, Sachs Co. Member SIPC/NASD. CONFIDENTIALITY: The information contained in or attached to this electronic transmission is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you are not the named recipient, you are hereby notified that any distribution, copying, review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this electronic transmission or the information contained in it is strictly prohibited. The information expressed herein may contain the private views and opinions of the sender that does not constitute the formal views and opinions of PT. Danareksa (Persero) and its subsidiaries, and should not in any ways be construed as the views, offers, or acceptances of these entities, unless specifically stated. PT. Danareksa (Persero) and its subsidiaries does not take any responsibilities nor accepts any claims of liabilities and/or damages for statements which are clearly the sender's own and not made on behalf of the entities concerned. + + + + + + +
Re: [ob] Apa itu Fractal ?
ikut nimbrung mbah... Saya melihat fraktal adalah sebuah keadaan dimana segala sesuatu berulang dengan teratur embah... salah satunya setelah kenaikan ada penurunan setelah penurunan ada kenaikan perubahan dan pola ini bisa di kenalin dan membantu prediksi arah... thx Hans 2009/10/21 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Apa itu Fractal ? Fractal adalah PERUBAHAN PERILAKU kata si Bill Contoh: - Keadaan kebakaran menjadi tidak kebakaran adalah suatu Fractal - Perubahan harga yg asalnya downtrend menjadi uptrend adalah suatu Fractal. Jika harga berubah dari turun menjadi naik disebut Fractal Down (Bentuk V). Jika harga berubah dari naik menjadi turun disebut Fractal Up (V terbalik). Menggapa Fractal ini penting kata si Bill ? Karena semua pergerakan harga yg BESAR berasal dari fractal ini, jadi Fractal ini sangat penting. Fractal ini seperti titik api yg bisa menjadi kebakaran besar atau malah padam, tapi tidak mungkin ada kebakaran besar bila tidak diawali titik api kecil. Pada gambar dibawah terlihat banyak Fractal (Black Diamond), Fractal2 ini ada yg tidak significant TAPI ada yang menjadi TITIK REVERSAL. Jadi titik titik Fractal ini harus diawasi http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbumi.png
Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi
4800 KOMPOR MODE ON!!!--- On Wed, 10/21/09, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com wrote:From: It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.comSubject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell BumiTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comDate: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 6:55 AM
I think so. Selling up to 2800? On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:46 PM, troyan troyan...@yahoo. com wrote:
itu karena dia mau jualan ADRO yang udah beli dr 3 bulan lalu dan mau beli BUMI
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "It's Elaine!" elainesui83@ ... wrote:
*Wow it took 3 months for this one to be avail to public?*
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sanjaya mysanjaya.hd@ ... wrote:
- -
*From: *"Sonny John" sonny.j...@. ..
*Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:17:40 +0700
*Subject: *FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi
Please see latest GS research on ASEAN Metals and Mining (Coal), and on
Bumi and Adaro.
*Stock GS RatingCurrent Px *
*12 Month Target Px ** *
*Bumi Resources (BUMI.IJ)**Sell **Idr **2,850
**Idr **2,300*
*Adaro (ADRO.IJ) **Buy **Idr **1,510**
Idr **2,800*
**
*Key Summary Points:-*
· * **Rising oil prices are positive for coal equities*
Historically, thermal coal prices have been highly correlated to oil prices
(88% over the past 10 years), and so have coal stock prices (87% correlated
since 2003). We are positive on the outlook for oil, and last month we
raised our 2010E and 2011E oil price forecasts to US$90/bbl and US$110/bbl,
respectively, on stronger demand projections (our report from September
24, 2009, "Global: Energy: Oil—Recovery and relapse, v2").
· * **No major supply destruction, some projects nearing completion*
Despite the downturn, there has not been any major reduction in thermal
coal capex and in fact several projects are nearing completion. Australia's
new third coal port terminal (NCIG) is expected to ship first coal in early
2010E, with a full ramp-up by 2011 (representing a 30% expansion in
export capacity). Meanwhile, we estimate that Indonesian coal producers
may increase capacity by 40% by year-end 2010E. Our global thermal coal
supply-demand estimates indicate that the supply surplus in 2009E is likely
to narrow in 2010E due to stronger demand, but it is still in surplus.
· * **Coal price upcycle may lag oil, initiate with neutral stance*
Given our positive view on oil prices, we are forecasting higher thermal
coal prices over 2009E-2011E. However, with a stronger supply availability
of coal, we believe that the coal price cycle may lag oil. Currently
thermal
coal prices are 20% of oil on an energy-equivalent basis, which is below
the
historical average of 26% (the historical range is 14%-51%). On an annual
average basis we see coal as a percentage of oil declining from 25% in
2009E
to 17% in 2011E. We are initiating coverage on the sector with a neutral
stance.
· * **Stock selective approach; Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi*
Adaro is our top pick, given attractive valuations and a strong earnings
growth trend as its low-priced legacy contracts expire. Meanwhile, we rate
Bumi Resources as Sell due to rising capital costs, its increasing debt
load
and declining ROIC. We initiate on Straits Asia and Bukit Asam at Neutral.
· * **Risks*
Upside risks to our views and price targets include a disruption in the
global coal supply chain (e.g., from bad weather, port congestion) causing
coal prices to spike or China coal demand being stronger than we expect;
downside risks include China's small mines restarting operations.
- *Latest Research*
ASEAN Metals Mining Coal 21 OCt.pdf
Goldman, Sachs Co. Member SIPC/NASD.
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the information contained in it is strictly prohibited.
The information expressed herein may contain the private views and opinions of the sender
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Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi
Bisa aja sih 2800, tapi ane sih udah jualan :D ya kalo naik lagi mungkin belum rejeki ane, yang penting cukuplah untuk service biji :D --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Chase chase.vinc...@... wrote: 4800 KOMPOR MODE ON!!! --- On Wed, 10/21/09, It's Elaine! elainesu...@... wrote: From: It's Elaine! elainesu...@... Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 6:55 AM  I think so. Selling up to 2800? On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:46 PM, troyan troyan...@yahoo. com wrote: itu karena dia mau jualan ADRO yang udah beli dr 3 bulan lalu dan mau beli BUMI --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ ... wrote: *Wow it took 3 months for this one to be avail to public?* On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sanjaya mysanjaya.hd@ ... wrote:   - - *From: *Sonny John sonny.john@ .. *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:17:40 +0700 *Subject: *FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Please see latest GS research on ASEAN Metals and Mining (Coal), and on Bumi and Adaro. *Stock              GS Rating        Current Px    * *12 Month Target Px   *     * * *Bumi Resources (BUMI.IJ)     **Sell           **Idr **2,850 **Idr **2,300    * *Adaro (ADRO.IJ)     **Buy           **Idr **1,510    ** Idr **2,800* *         * *Key Summary Points:-* ·    * **Rising oil prices are positive for coal equities* Historically, thermal coal prices have been highly correlated to oil prices (88% over the past 10 years), and so have coal stock prices (87% correlated since 2003). We are positive on the outlook for oil, and last month we raised our 2010E and 2011E oil price forecasts to US$90/bbl and US$110/bbl, respectively, on stronger demand projections (our report from September 24, 2009, Global: Energy: OilâRecovery and relapse, v2). ·    * **No major supply destruction, some projects nearing completion* Despite the downturn, there has not been any major reduction in thermal coal capex and in fact several projects are nearing completion. Australia's new third coal port terminal (NCIG) is expected to ship first coal in early 2010E, with a full ramp-up by 2011 (representing a 30% expansion in export capacity). Meanwhile, we estimate that Indonesian coal producers may increase capacity by 40% by year-end 2010E. Our global thermal coal supply-demand estimates indicate that the supply surplus in 2009E is likely to narrow in 2010E due to stronger demand, but it is still in surplus. ·    * **Coal price upcycle may lag oil, initiate with neutral stance* Given our positive view on oil prices, we are forecasting higher thermal coal prices over 2009E-2011E. However, with a stronger supply availability of coal, we believe that the coal price cycle may lag oil. Currently thermal coal prices are 20% of oil on an energy-equivalent basis, which is below the historical average of 26% (the historical range is 14%-51%). On an annual average basis we see coal as a percentage of oil declining from 25% in 2009E to 17% in 2011E. We are initiating coverage on the sector with a neutral stance. ·    * **Stock selective approach; Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi* Adaro is our top pick, given attractive valuations and a strong earnings growth trend as its low-priced legacy contracts expire. Meanwhile, we rate Bumi Resources as Sell due to rising capital costs, its increasing debt load and declining ROIC. We initiate on Straits Asia and Bukit Asam at Neutral. ·    * **Risks* Upside risks to our views and price targets include a disruption in the global coal supply chain (e.g., from bad weather, port congestion) causing coal prices to spike or China coal demand being stronger than we expect; downside risks include China's small mines restarting operations.   - *Latest Research*  ASEAN Metals Mining Coal 21 OCt.pdf Goldman, Sachs Co. Member SIPC/NASD.   CONFIDENTIALITY: The information contained in or attached to this electronic transmission is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended for the named recipient(s) only.
Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi
biji duren apa biji semangka? --- On Wed, 10/21/09, troyan troyan...@yahoo.com wrote: From: troyan troyan...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 7:09 AM Bisa aja sih 2800, tapi ane sih udah jualan :D ya kalo naik lagi mungkin belum rejeki ane, yang penting cukuplah untuk service biji :D --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Vincent Chase chase.vincent@ ... wrote: 4800 KOMPOR MODE ON!!! --- On Wed, 10/21/09, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ ... wrote: From: It's Elaine! elainesui83@ ... Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 6:55 AM  I think so. Selling up to 2800? On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:46 PM, troyan troyan...@yahoo. com wrote: itu karena dia mau jualan ADRO yang udah beli dr 3 bulan lalu dan mau beli BUMI --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ ... wrote: *Wow it took 3 months for this one to be avail to public?* On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sanjaya mysanjaya.hd@ ... wrote:   - - *From: *Sonny John sonny.john@ .. *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:17:40 +0700 *Subject: *FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Please see latest GS research on ASEAN Metals and Mining (Coal), and on Bumi and Adaro. *Stock              GS Rating        Current Px    * *12 Month Target Px   *     * * *Bumi Resources (BUMI.IJ)     **Sell           **Idr **2,850 **Idr **2,300    * *Adaro (ADRO.IJ)     **Buy           **Idr **1,510    ** Idr **2,800* *         * *Key Summary Points:-* ·    * **Rising oil prices are positive for coal equities* Historically, thermal coal prices have been highly correlated to oil prices (88% over the past 10 years), and so have coal stock prices (87% correlated since 2003). We are positive on the outlook for oil, and last month we raised our 2010E and 2011E oil price forecasts to US$90/bbl and US$110/bbl, respectively, on stronger demand projections (our report from September 24, 2009, Global: Energy: Oilâ€Recovery and relapse, v2). ·    * **No major supply destruction, some projects nearing completion* Despite the downturn, there has not been any major reduction in thermal coal capex and in fact several projects are nearing completion. Australia's new third coal port terminal (NCIG) is expected to ship first coal in early 2010E, with a full ramp-up by 2011 (representing a 30% expansion in export capacity). Meanwhile, we estimate that Indonesian coal producers may increase capacity by 40% by year-end 2010E. Our global thermal coal supply-demand estimates indicate that the supply surplus in 2009E is likely to narrow in 2010E due to stronger demand, but it is still in surplus. ·    * **Coal price upcycle may lag oil, initiate with neutral stance* Given our positive view on oil prices, we are forecasting higher thermal coal prices over 2009E-2011E. However, with a stronger supply availability of coal, we believe that the coal price cycle may lag oil. Currently thermal coal prices are 20% of oil on an energy-equivalent basis, which is below the historical average of 26% (the historical range is 14%-51%). On an annual average basis we see coal as a percentage of oil declining from 25% in 2009E to 17% in 2011E. We are initiating coverage on the sector with a neutral stance. ·    * **Stock selective approach; Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi* Adaro is our top pick, given attractive valuations and a strong earnings growth trend as its low-priced legacy contracts expire. Meanwhile, we rate Bumi Resources as Sell due to rising capital costs, its increasing debt load and declining ROIC. We initiate on Straits Asia and Bukit Asam at Neutral. ·    * **Risks* Upside risks to our views and price targets include a disruption in the global coal supply chain (e.g., from bad weather, port congestion) causing
RE: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR
BNBR is leading now... -1,6% vs -2,6% To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com From: chase.vinc...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:40:56 -0700 Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR jendraaal --- On Wed, 10/21/09, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR To: OB obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 3:10 AM Siap2 aja deh.. On the way ke 3800 dehhh. Serem2 dikit, tapi ada sinaran optimis di 3800-4000. Semoga diberkati tujuan optimis untuk oktober ini From: Peter Alimin milis...@live. com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:04:40 +0700To: OBobrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comSubject: RE: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR haha..liat aja deh.. brokernya arto CS udah mulai nih... kemarin bu kyle chen bilang sunny day... pak aria kirim bull warrior kalau 2925 di kiri.. To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com From: kido...@yahoo. com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 03:01:41 + Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR Ha ha :) --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_ 2...@... wrote: Balapan kebawah atau atas?? -Original Message- From: Peter Alimin milis...@.. . Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:52:17 To: OBobrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR lagi yuk... _ _ _ _ _ _ Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. http://www.microsof t.com/windows/ windowslive/ see-it-in- action/social- network-basics. aspx?ocid= PID23461: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- id:SI_SB_ 3:092010 Windows Live Hotmail: Your friends can get your Facebook updates, right from Hotmail®. _ Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-id:SI_SB_3:092010
Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi
adro jadi decoy hari ini nyuruh orang pindah barang biar gampang dipungut..kira2 masuk kemana u already know lah heheheDario Amran--- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Vincent Chase chase.vinc...@yahoo.com menulis:
Dari: Vincent Chase chase.vinc...@yahoo.comJudul: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell BumiKepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comTanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 2:04 PM
4800 KOMPOR MODE ON!!!--- On Wed, 10/21/09, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com wrote:
From: It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.comSubject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell BumiTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comDate: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 6:55 AM
I think so. Selling up to 2800?
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:46 PM, troyan troyan...@yahoo. com wrote:
itu karena dia mau jualan ADRO yang udah beli dr 3 bulan lalu dan mau beli BUMI--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "It's Elaine!" elainesui83@ ... wrote: *Wow it took 3 months for this one to be avail to public?* On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sanjaya mysanjaya.hd@ ... wrote: - - *From: *"Sonny John" sonny.j...@. .. *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:17:40 +0700
*Subject: *FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Please see latest GS research on ASEAN Metals and Mining (Coal), and on Bumi and Adaro. *Stock GS RatingCurrent Px * *12 Month Target Px ** * *Bumi Resources (BUMI.IJ)**Sell **Idr **2,850 **Idr **2,300* *Adaro (ADRO.IJ) **Buy **Idr **1,510
** Idr **2,800* ** *Key Summary Points:-* · * **Rising oil prices are positive for coal equities* Historically, thermal coal prices have been highly correlated to oil prices (88% over the past 10 years), and so have coal stock prices (87% correlated since 2003). We are positive on the outlook for oil, and last month we raised our 2010E and 2011E oil price forecasts to US$90/bbl and US$110/bbl, respectively, on stronger demand projections (our report from September 24, 2009, "Global: Energy: Oil—Recovery and relapse, v2"). · * **No major supply destruction, some projects nearing
completion* Despite the downturn, there has not been any major reduction in thermal coal capex and in fact several projects are nearing completion. Australia's new third coal port terminal (NCIG) is expected to ship first coal in early 2010E, with a full ramp-up by 2011 (representing a 30% expansion in export capacity). Meanwhile, we estimate that Indonesian coal producers may increase capacity by 40% by year-end 2010E. Our global thermal coal supply-demand estimates indicate that the supply surplus in 2009E is likely to narrow in 2010E due to stronger demand, but it is still in surplus. · * **Coal price upcycle may lag oil, initiate with neutral stance* Given our positive view
on oil prices, we are forecasting higher thermal coal prices over 2009E-2011E. However, with a stronger supply availability of coal, we believe that the coal price cycle may lag oil. Currently thermal coal prices are 20% of oil on an energy-equivalent basis, which is below the historical average of 26% (the historical range is 14%-51%). On an annual average basis we see coal as a percentage of oil declining from 25% in 2009E to 17% in 2011E. We are initiating coverage on the sector with a neutral stance. · * **Stock selective approach; Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi* Adaro is our top pick, given attractive valuations and a strong earnings growth trend as its
low-priced legacy contracts expire. Meanwhile, we rate Bumi Resources as Sell due to rising capital costs, its increasing debt load and declining ROIC. We initiate on Straits Asia and Bukit Asam at Neutral. · * **Risks* Upside risks to our views and price targets include a disruption in the global coal supply chain (e.g., from bad weather, port congestion) causing coal prices to spike or China coal demand being stronger than we expect; downside risks include China's small mines restarting operations.- *Latest Research* ASEAN Metals Mining Coal 21 OCt.pdf Goldman, Sachs Co. Member SIPC/NASD.
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Re: [ob] Apa itu Fractal ?
Kata fractal berasal dari Facture atau Broken, kata fractal ini dikemukakan oleh Mandelbrot, seorang ahli Chaos (kekacauan). Fractal adalah sebuah bentuk geometri dimana jika dipecah pecah menjadi pecahan yg lebih kecil maka pecahan kecil itu akan punya bentuk yg SELF SIMILARITY dengan bentuk aslinya. Kenapa perubahan harga/reversal disebut Fractal karena memang bentuk fractal V ini adalah pecahan yg SELF SIMILAR dari bentuk fractal V yg lebih besar. Contoh: - Jika pada grafik mingguan terjadi Fractal V maka pada skala harian akan ditemukan juga Fractal V yg lebih kecil. Dan ini akan berulang keskala yg lebih kecil, jam dan menit. Kebakaran besar berasal dari kebakaran yg lebih kecil dan kebakaran kecil berasal dari titik api. Tapi ini tidak berlaku sebaliknya. Jadi jika ada titik api maka belum tentu jadi kebakaran besar. Kalo kita lihat grafik BUMI, pada level 2850 sudah terjadi Fractal V pada skala grafik 30 menit, apakah Fractal ini akan menjadi Fractal V yg lebih besar pada skala harian atau mingguan ?. Jawabannya belum tentu, tapi perhatian kita harus FOCUC pada Fractal V di 2850 karena fractal intraday ini bisa saja menjadi CIKAL BAKAL fractal V yg lebih besar... Ingat semua GERAKAN BESAR BERASAL DARI BENTUK FRACTAL INI, jadi semua trade sebaiknya dimulai dengan adanya fractal... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Hans Kwee hanskwe...@... wrote: ikut nimbrung mbah... Saya melihat fraktal adalah sebuah keadaan dimana segala sesuatu berulang dengan teratur embah... salah satunya setelah kenaikan ada penurunan setelah penurunan ada kenaikan perubahan dan pola ini bisa di kenalin dan membantu prediksi arah... thx Hans 2009/10/21 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... Apa itu Fractal ? Fractal adalah PERUBAHAN PERILAKU kata si Bill Contoh: - Keadaan kebakaran menjadi tidak kebakaran adalah suatu Fractal - Perubahan harga yg asalnya downtrend menjadi uptrend adalah suatu Fractal. Jika harga berubah dari turun menjadi naik disebut Fractal Down (Bentuk V). Jika harga berubah dari naik menjadi turun disebut Fractal Up (V terbalik). Menggapa Fractal ini penting kata si Bill ? Karena semua pergerakan harga yg BESAR berasal dari fractal ini, jadi Fractal ini sangat penting. Fractal ini seperti titik api yg bisa menjadi kebakaran besar atau malah padam, tapi tidak mungkin ada kebakaran besar bila tidak diawali titik api kecil. Pada gambar dibawah terlihat banyak Fractal (Black Diamond), Fractal2 ini ada yg tidak significant TAPI ada yang menjadi TITIK REVERSAL. Jadi titik titik Fractal ini harus diawasi http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbumi.png
Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi
Biji kenari kayanya Hehe... *kaboerr -Original Message- From: Vincent Chase chase.vinc...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:10:20 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi biji duren apa biji semangka? --- On Wed, 10/21/09, troyan troyan...@yahoo.com wrote: From: troyan troyan...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 7:09 AM Bisa aja sih 2800, tapi ane sih udah jualan :D ya kalo naik lagi mungkin belum rejeki ane, yang penting cukuplah untuk service biji :D --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Vincent Chase chase.vincent@ ... wrote: 4800 KOMPOR MODE ON!!! --- On Wed, 10/21/09, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ ... wrote: From: It's Elaine! elainesui83@ ... Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 6:55 AM  I think so. Selling up to 2800? On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:46 PM, troyan troyan...@yahoo. com wrote: itu karena dia mau jualan ADRO yang udah beli dr 3 bulan lalu dan mau beli BUMI --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ ... wrote: *Wow it took 3 months for this one to be avail to public?* On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sanjaya mysanjaya.hd@ ... wrote:   - - *From: *Sonny John sonny.john@ .. *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:17:40 +0700 *Subject: *FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Please see latest GS research on ASEAN Metals and Mining (Coal), and on Bumi and Adaro. *Stock              GS Rating        Current Px    * *12 Month Target Px   *     * * *Bumi Resources (BUMI.IJ)     **Sell           **Idr **2,850 **Idr **2,300    * *Adaro (ADRO.IJ)     **Buy           **Idr **1,510    ** Idr **2,800* *         * *Key Summary Points:-* ·    * **Rising oil prices are positive for coal equities* Historically, thermal coal prices have been highly correlated to oil prices (88% over the past 10 years), and so have coal stock prices (87% correlated since 2003). We are positive on the outlook for oil, and last month we raised our 2010E and 2011E oil price forecasts to US$90/bbl and US$110/bbl, respectively, on stronger demand projections (our report from September 24, 2009, Global: Energy: Oilâ€Recovery and relapse, v2). ·    * **No major supply destruction, some projects nearing completion* Despite the downturn, there has not been any major reduction in thermal coal capex and in fact several projects are nearing completion. Australia's new third coal port terminal (NCIG) is expected to ship first coal in early 2010E, with a full ramp-up by 2011 (representing a 30% expansion in export capacity). Meanwhile, we estimate that Indonesian coal producers may increase capacity by 40% by year-end 2010E. Our global thermal coal supply-demand estimates indicate that the supply surplus in 2009E is likely to narrow in 2010E due to stronger demand, but it is still in surplus. ·    * **Coal price upcycle may lag oil, initiate with neutral stance* Given our positive view on oil prices, we are forecasting higher thermal coal prices over 2009E-2011E. However, with a stronger supply availability of coal, we believe that the coal price cycle may lag oil. Currently thermal coal prices are 20% of oil on an energy-equivalent basis, which is below the historical average of 26% (the historical range is 14%-51%). On an annual average basis we see coal as a percentage of oil declining from 25% in 2009E to 17% in 2011E. We are initiating coverage on the sector with a neutral stance. ·    * **Stock selective approach; Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi* Adaro is our top pick, given attractive valuations and a strong earnings growth trend as its low-priced legacy contracts expire. Meanwhile, we rate Bumi Resources as Sell due to rising capital costs, its increasing debt load and declining ROIC. We initiate on Straits Asia and Bukit
Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi
Sebenernya gak penting banget apa semangka, apa duren, apa kenari. yang penting comfort. gitu lho... :D --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Joe Martin milis.s4...@... wrote: Biji kenari kayanya Hehe... *kaboerr -Original Message- From: Vincent Chase chase.vinc...@... Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:10:20 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi biji duren apa biji semangka? --- On Wed, 10/21/09, troyan troyan...@... wrote: From: troyan troyan...@... Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 7:09 AM  Bisa aja sih 2800, tapi ane sih udah jualan :D ya kalo naik lagi mungkin belum rejeki ane, yang penting cukuplah untuk service biji :D --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Vincent Chase chase.vincent@ ... wrote: 4800 KOMPOR MODE ON!!! --- On Wed, 10/21/09, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ ... wrote: From: It's Elaine! elainesui83@ ... Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 6:55 AM àI think so. Selling up to 2800? On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:46 PM, troyan troyan...@yahoo. com wrote: itu karena dia mau jualan ADRO yang udah beli dr 3 bulan lalu dan mau beli BUMI --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ ... wrote: *Wow it took 3 months for this one to be avail to public?* On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sanjaya mysanjaya.hd@ ... wrote: àà- - *From: *Sonny John sonny.john@ .. *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:17:40 +0700 *Subject: *FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Please see latest GS research on ASEAN Metals and Mining (Coal), and on Bumi and Adaro. *Stock àààààààààààààGS Rating àààààààCurrent Px ààà* *12 Month Target Px àà* àààà* * *Bumi Resources (BUMI.IJ) àààà**Sell àààààààààà**Idr **2,850 **Idr **2,300 ààà* *Adaro (ADRO.IJ) àààà**Buy àààààààààà**Idr **1,510 ààà** Idr **2,800* * àààààààà* *Key Summary Points:-* ÷ ààà* **Rising oil prices are positive for coal equities* Historically, thermal coal prices have been highly correlated to oil prices (88% over the past 10 years), and so have coal stock prices (87% correlated since 2003). We are positive on the outlook for oil, and last month we raised our 2010E and 2011E oil price forecasts to US$90/bbl and US$110/bbl, respectively, on stronger demand projections (our report from September 24, 2009, Global: Energy: Oilââ¬Recovery and relapse, v2). ÷ ààà* **No major supply destruction, some projects nearing completion* Despite the downturn, there has not been any major reduction in thermal coal capex and in fact several projects are nearing completion. Australia's new third coal port terminal (NCIG) is expected to ship first coal in early 2010E, with a full ramp-up by 2011 (representing a 30% expansion in export capacity). Meanwhile, we estimate that Indonesian coal producers may increase capacity by 40% by year-end 2010E. Our global thermal coal supply-demand estimates indicate that the supply surplus in 2009E is likely to narrow in 2010E due to stronger demand, but it is still in surplus. ÷ ààà* **Coal price upcycle may lag oil, initiate with neutral stance* Given our positive view on oil prices, we are forecasting higher thermal coal prices over 2009E-2011E. However, with a stronger supply availability of coal, we believe that the coal price cycle may lag oil. Currently thermal coal prices are 20%
Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi
Emang mendingan beli ADRO sih...kemarin ADRO dapet utangan US$800 juta bunga cuma 7.6%...BUMI ngutang US$1.9 M bunga 19% (jauh amat spreadnya padahal sama2 dollar)... laba operasional BUMI bakalan banyak buat bayar utang (jangan2 owner BUMI juga kreditornya cuma pake nama house asing kayak CS , CIC , Samuel or whatever )...laba bersih bakalan makin kecil ..PERnya tambah mahal ...dividen tambah dikit .. From: troyan troyan...@yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 2:09:13 PM Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Bisa aja sih 2800, tapi ane sih udah jualan :D ya kalo naik lagi mungkin belum rejeki ane, yang penting cukuplah untuk service biji :D --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Vincent Chase chase.vincent@ ... wrote: 4800 KOMPOR MODE ON!!! --- On Wed, 10/21/09, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ ... wrote: From: It's Elaine! elainesui83@ ... Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 6:55 AM  I think so. Selling up to 2800? On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:46 PM, troyan troyan...@yahoo. com wrote: itu karena dia mau jualan ADRO yang udah beli dr 3 bulan lalu dan mau beli BUMI --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ ... wrote: *Wow it took 3 months for this one to be avail to public?* On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sanjaya mysanjaya.hd@ ... wrote:   - - *From: *Sonny John sonny.john@ .. *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:17:40 +0700 *Subject: *FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Please see latest GS research on ASEAN Metals and Mining (Coal), and on Bumi and Adaro. *Stock              GS Rating        Current Px    * *12 Month Target Px   *     * * *Bumi Resources (BUMI.IJ)     **Sell           **Idr **2,850 **Idr **2,300    * *Adaro (ADRO.IJ)     **Buy           **Idr **1,510    ** Idr **2,800* *         * *Key Summary Points:-* ·    * **Rising oil prices are positive for coal equities* Historically, thermal coal prices have been highly correlated to oil prices (88% over the past 10 years), and so have coal stock prices (87% correlated since 2003). We are positive on the outlook for oil, and last month we raised our 2010E and 2011E oil price forecasts to US$90/bbl and US$110/bbl, respectively, on stronger demand projections (our report from September 24, 2009, Global: Energy: Oilâ€Recovery and relapse, v2). ·    * **No major supply destruction, some projects nearing completion* Despite the downturn, there has not been any major reduction in thermal coal capex and in fact several projects are nearing completion. Australia's new third coal port terminal (NCIG) is expected to ship first coal in early 2010E, with a full ramp-up by 2011 (representing a 30% expansion in export capacity). Meanwhile, we estimate that Indonesian coal producers may increase capacity by 40% by year-end 2010E. Our global thermal coal supply-demand estimates indicate that the supply surplus in 2009E is likely to narrow in 2010E due to stronger demand, but it is still in surplus. ·    * **Coal price upcycle may lag oil, initiate with neutral stance* Given our positive view on oil prices, we are forecasting higher thermal coal prices over 2009E-2011E. However, with a stronger supply availability of coal, we believe that the coal price cycle may lag oil. Currently thermal coal prices are 20% of oil on an energy-equivalent basis, which is below the historical average of 26% (the historical range is 14%-51%). On an annual average basis we see coal as a percentage of oil declining from 25% in 2009E to 17% in 2011E. We are initiating coverage on the sector with a neutral stance. ·    * **Stock selective approach; Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi* Adaro is our top pick, given attractive valuations and a strong earnings growth trend as its low-priced legacy contracts expire. Meanwhile, we rate Bumi Resources as Sell due to rising capital costs, its increasing debt load and declining ROIC. We initiate on Straits Asia and Bukit Asam at Neutral. ·    * **Risks* Upside risks to our views and price targets include a disruption in the global coal supply chain
Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi
Service nya di celup baskom aer anget + garem hehehehhe . Habis itu di iris tipis tipis campur cuka + lada dan di goreng sampe gosong . heheheheh . Canda yah :)) On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 2:09 PM, troyan troyan...@yahoo.com wrote: Bisa aja sih 2800, tapi ane sih udah jualan :D ya kalo naik lagi mungkin belum rejeki ane, yang penting cukuplah untuk service biji :D --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Vincent Chase chase.vinc...@... wrote: 4800 KOMPOR MODE ON!!! --- On Wed, 10/21/09, It's Elaine! elainesu...@... wrote: From: It's Elaine! elainesu...@... Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 6:55 AM  I think so. Selling up to 2800? On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:46 PM, troyan troyan...@yahoo. com wrote: itu karena dia mau jualan ADRO yang udah beli dr 3 bulan lalu dan mau beli BUMI --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, It's Elaine! elainesu...@... wrote: *Wow it took 3 months for this one to be avail to public?* On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sanjaya mysanjaya.hd@ ... wrote:   - - *From: *Sonny John sonny.john@ .. *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:17:40 +0700 *Subject: *FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Please see latest GS research on ASEAN Metals and Mining (Coal), and on Bumi and Adaro. *Stock              GS Rating        Current Px    * *12 Month Target Px   *     * * *Bumi Resources (BUMI.IJ)     **Sell           **Idr **2,850 **Idr **2,300    * *Adaro (ADRO.IJ)     **Buy           **Idr **1,510    ** Idr **2,800* *         * *Key Summary Points:-* ·    * **Rising oil prices are positive for coal equities* Historically, thermal coal prices have been highly correlated to oil prices (88% over the past 10 years), and so have coal stock prices (87% correlated since 2003). We are positive on the outlook for oil, and last month we raised our 2010E and 2011E oil price forecasts to US$90/bbl and US$110/bbl, respectively, on stronger demand projections (our report from September 24, 2009, Global: Energy: Oilâ€Recovery and relapse, v2). ·    * **No major supply destruction, some projects nearing completion* Despite the downturn, there has not been any major reduction in thermal coal capex and in fact several projects are nearing completion. Australia's new third coal port terminal (NCIG) is expected to ship first coal in early 2010E, with a full ramp-up by 2011 (representing a 30% expansion in export capacity). Meanwhile, we estimate that Indonesian coal producers may increase capacity by 40% by year-end 2010E. Our global thermal coal supply-demand estimates indicate that the supply surplus in 2009E is likely to narrow in 2010E due to stronger demand, but it is still in surplus. ·    * **Coal price upcycle may lag oil, initiate with neutral stance* Given our positive view on oil prices, we are forecasting higher thermal coal prices over 2009E-2011E. However, with a stronger supply availability of coal, we believe that the coal price cycle may lag oil. Currently thermal coal prices are 20% of oil on an energy-equivalent basis, which is below the historical average of 26% (the historical range is 14%-51%). On an annual average basis we see coal as a percentage of oil declining from 25% in 2009E to 17% in 2011E. We are initiating coverage on the sector with a neutral stance. ·    * **Stock selective approach; Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi* Adaro is our top pick, given attractive valuations and a strong earnings growth trend as its low-priced legacy contracts expire. Meanwhile, we rate Bumi Resources as Sell due to rising capital costs, its increasing debt load and declining ROIC. We initiate on Straits Asia and Bukit Asam at Neutral. ·    * **Risks* Upside risks to our views and price targets include a disruption in the global coal supply chain (e.g., from bad weather, port congestion) causing coal prices to spike or China coal demand being stronger than we expect; downside risks include China's small mines restarting
Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi
HAYO disini yang switch bumi ke adro sapa acung kan jempol --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Joe Martin milis.s4...@... wrote: Biji kenari kayanya Hehe... *kaboerr -Original Message- From: Vincent Chase chase.vinc...@... Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:10:20 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi biji duren apa biji semangka? --- On Wed, 10/21/09, troyan troyan...@... wrote: From: troyan troyan...@... Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 7:09 AM  Bisa aja sih 2800, tapi ane sih udah jualan :D ya kalo naik lagi mungkin belum rejeki ane, yang penting cukuplah untuk service biji :D --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Vincent Chase chase.vincent@ ... wrote: 4800 KOMPOR MODE ON!!! --- On Wed, 10/21/09, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ ... wrote: From: It's Elaine! elainesui83@ ... Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 6:55 AM àI think so. Selling up to 2800? On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:46 PM, troyan troyan...@yahoo. com wrote: itu karena dia mau jualan ADRO yang udah beli dr 3 bulan lalu dan mau beli BUMI --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ ... wrote: *Wow it took 3 months for this one to be avail to public?* On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sanjaya mysanjaya.hd@ ... wrote: àà- - *From: *Sonny John sonny.john@ .. *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:17:40 +0700 *Subject: *FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Please see latest GS research on ASEAN Metals and Mining (Coal), and on Bumi and Adaro. *Stock àààààààààààààGS Rating àààààààCurrent Px ààà* *12 Month Target Px àà* àààà* * *Bumi Resources (BUMI.IJ) àààà**Sell àààààààààà**Idr **2,850 **Idr **2,300 ààà* *Adaro (ADRO.IJ) àààà**Buy àààààààààà**Idr **1,510 ààà** Idr **2,800* * àààààààà* *Key Summary Points:-* ÷ ààà* **Rising oil prices are positive for coal equities* Historically, thermal coal prices have been highly correlated to oil prices (88% over the past 10 years), and so have coal stock prices (87% correlated since 2003). We are positive on the outlook for oil, and last month we raised our 2010E and 2011E oil price forecasts to US$90/bbl and US$110/bbl, respectively, on stronger demand projections (our report from September 24, 2009, Global: Energy: Oilââ¬Recovery and relapse, v2). ÷ ààà* **No major supply destruction, some projects nearing completion* Despite the downturn, there has not been any major reduction in thermal coal capex and in fact several projects are nearing completion. Australia's new third coal port terminal (NCIG) is expected to ship first coal in early 2010E, with a full ramp-up by 2011 (representing a 30% expansion in export capacity). Meanwhile, we estimate that Indonesian coal producers may increase capacity by 40% by year-end 2010E. Our global thermal coal supply-demand estimates indicate that the supply surplus in 2009E is likely to narrow in 2010E due to stronger demand, but it is still in surplus. ÷ ààà* **Coal price upcycle may lag oil, initiate with neutral stance* Given our positive view on oil prices, we are forecasting higher thermal coal prices over 2009E-2011E. However, with a stronger supply availability of coal, we believe that the coal price cycle may lag oil. Currently thermal coal prices are 20% of oil on an energy-equivalent basis,
RE: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi
Hai EL, Artinya EL sudah tahu duluan report ini 3 bulan yang lalu? Cool.. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of It's Elaine! Sent: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:40 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Wow it took 3 months for this one to be avail to public? On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sanjaya mysanjaya...@gmail.com wrote: _ From: Sonny John sonny.j...@e-samuel.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:17:40 +0700 Subject: FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Please see latest GS research on ASEAN Metals and Mining (Coal), and on Bumi and Adaro. Stock GS Rating Current Px 12 Month Target Px Bumi Resources (BUMI.IJ)SellIdr 2,850 Idr 2,300 Adaro (ADRO.IJ) Buy Idr 1,510 Idr 2,800 Key Summary Points:- . Rising oil prices are positive for coal equities Historically, thermal coal prices have been highly correlated to oil prices (88% over the past 10 years), and so have coal stock prices (87% correlated since 2003). We are positive on the outlook for oil, and last month we raised our 2010E and 2011E oil price forecasts to US$90/bbl and US$110/bbl, respectively, on stronger demand projections (our report from September 24, 2009, Global: Energy: Oil-Recovery and relapse, v2). . No major supply destruction, some projects nearing completion Despite the downturn, there has not been any major reduction in thermal coal capex and in fact several projects are nearing completion. Australia's new third coal port terminal (NCIG) is expected to ship first coal in early 2010E, with a full ramp-up by 2011 (representing a 30% expansion in export capacity). Meanwhile, we estimate that Indonesian coal producers may increase capacity by 40% by year-end 2010E. Our global thermal coal supply-demand estimates indicate that the supply surplus in 2009E is likely to narrow in 2010E due to stronger demand, but it is still in surplus. . Coal price upcycle may lag oil, initiate with neutral stance Given our positive view on oil prices, we are forecasting higher thermal coal prices over 2009E-2011E. However, with a stronger supply availability of coal, we believe that the coal price cycle may lag oil. Currently thermal coal prices are 20% of oil on an energy-equivalent basis, which is below the historical average of 26% (the historical range is 14%-51%). On an annual average basis we see coal as a percentage of oil declining from 25% in 2009E to 17% in 2011E. We are initiating coverage on the sector with a neutral stance. . Stock selective approach; Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Adaro is our top pick, given attractive valuations and a strong earnings growth trend as its low-priced legacy contracts expire. Meanwhile, we rate Bumi Resources as Sell due to rising capital costs, its increasing debt load and declining ROIC. We initiate on Straits Asia and Bukit Asam at Neutral. . Risks Upside risks to our views and price targets include a disruption in the global coal supply chain (e.g., from bad weather, port congestion) causing coal prices to spike or China coal demand being stronger than we expect; downside risks include China's small mines restarting operations. * Latest Research ASEAN Metals Mining Coal 21 OCt.pdf Goldman, Sachs Co. Member SIPC/NASD. CONFIDENTIALITY: The information contained in or attached to this electronic transmission is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you are not the named recipient, you are hereby notified that any distribution, copying, review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this electronic transmission or the information contained in it is strictly prohibited. The information expressed herein may contain the private views and opinions of the sender that does not constitute the formal views and opinions of PT. Danareksa (Persero) and its subsidiaries, and should not in any ways be construed as the views, offers, or acceptances of these entities, unless specifically stated. PT. Danareksa (Persero) and its subsidiaries does not take any responsibilities nor accepts any claims of liabilities and/or damages for statements which are clearly the sender's own and not made on behalf of the entities concerned.
Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi
yah, gimana decoy bisa efektif, base camp gak dibumihanguskan at once :) - Original Message - From: dario kurniawan To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi adro jadi decoy hari ini nyuruh orang pindah barang biar gampang dipungut..kira2 masuk kemana u already know lah hehehe Dario Amran --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Vincent Chase chase.vinc...@yahoo.com menulis: Dari: Vincent Chase chase.vinc...@yahoo.com Judul: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 2:04 PM 4800 KOMPOR MODE ON!!! --- On Wed, 10/21/09, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com wrote: From: It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 6:55 AM I think so. Selling up to 2800? On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:46 PM, troyan troyan...@yahoo. com wrote: itu karena dia mau jualan ADRO yang udah beli dr 3 bulan lalu dan mau beli BUMI --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ ... wrote: *Wow it took 3 months for this one to be avail to public?* On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sanjaya mysanjaya.hd@ ... wrote: - - *From: *Sonny John sonny.j...@. .. *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:17:40 +0700 *Subject: *FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Please see latest GS research on ASEAN Metals and Mining (Coal), and on Bumi and Adaro. *Stock GS Rating Current Px * *12 Month Target Px ** * *Bumi Resources (BUMI.IJ)**Sell **Idr **2,850 **Idr **2,300 * *Adaro (ADRO.IJ) **Buy **Idr **1,510 ** Idr **2,800* ** *Key Summary Points:-* · * **Rising oil prices are positive for coal equities* Historically, thermal coal prices have been highly correlated to oil prices (88% over the past 10 years), and so have coal stock prices (87% correlated since 2003). We are positive on the outlook for oil, and last month we raised our 2010E and 2011E oil price forecasts to US$90/bbl and US$110/bbl, respectively, on stronger demand projections (our report from September 24, 2009, Global: Energy: Oil—Recovery and relapse, v2). · * **No major supply destruction, some projects nearing completion* Despite the downturn, there has not been any major reduction in thermal coal capex and in fact several projects are nearing completion. Australia's new third coal port terminal (NCIG) is expected to ship first coal in early 2010E, with a full ramp-up by 2011 (representing a 30% expansion in export capacity). Meanwhile, we estimate that Indonesian coal producers may increase capacity by 40% by year-end 2010E. Our global thermal coal supply-demand estimates indicate that the supply surplus in 2009E is likely to narrow in 2010E due to stronger demand, but it is still in surplus. · * **Coal price upcycle may lag oil, initiate with neutral stance* Given our positive
Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi
Keknya udah pernah nyoba ya ? :D --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Djokro Wijaja stocksuc...@... wrote: Service nya di celup baskom aer anget + garem hehehehhe . Habis itu di iris tipis tipis campur cuka + lada dan di goreng sampe gosong . heheheheh . Canda yah :)) On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 2:09 PM, troyan troyan...@... wrote: Bisa aja sih 2800, tapi ane sih udah jualan :D ya kalo naik lagi mungkin belum rejeki ane, yang penting cukuplah untuk service biji :D --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Vincent Chase chase.vincent@ wrote: 4800 KOMPOR MODE ON!!! --- On Wed, 10/21/09, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ wrote: From: It's Elaine! elainesui83@ Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 6:55 AM  I think so. Selling up to 2800? On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:46 PM, troyan troyan...@yahoo. com wrote: itu karena dia mau jualan ADRO yang udah beli dr 3 bulan lalu dan mau beli BUMI --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ wrote: *Wow it took 3 months for this one to be avail to public?* On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sanjaya mysanjaya.hd@ ... wrote:   - - *From: *Sonny John sonny.john@ .. *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:17:40 +0700 *Subject: *FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Please see latest GS research on ASEAN Metals and Mining (Coal), and on Bumi and Adaro. *Stock              GS Rating        Current Px    * *12 Month Target Px   *     * * *Bumi Resources (BUMI.IJ)     **Sell           **Idr **2,850 **Idr **2,300    * *Adaro (ADRO.IJ)     **Buy           **Idr **1,510    ** Idr **2,800* *         * *Key Summary Points:-* ·    * **Rising oil prices are positive for coal equities* Historically, thermal coal prices have been highly correlated to oil prices (88% over the past 10 years), and so have coal stock prices (87% correlated since 2003). We are positive on the outlook for oil, and last month we raised our 2010E and 2011E oil price forecasts to US$90/bbl and US$110/bbl, respectively, on stronger demand projections (our report from September 24, 2009, Global: Energy: OilâRecovery and relapse, v2). ·    * **No major supply destruction, some projects nearing completion* Despite the downturn, there has not been any major reduction in thermal coal capex and in fact several projects are nearing completion. Australia's new third coal port terminal (NCIG) is expected to ship first coal in early 2010E, with a full ramp-up by 2011 (representing a 30% expansion in export capacity). Meanwhile, we estimate that Indonesian coal producers may increase capacity by 40% by year-end 2010E. Our global thermal coal supply-demand estimates indicate that the supply surplus in 2009E is likely to narrow in 2010E due to stronger demand, but it is still in surplus. ·    * **Coal price upcycle may lag oil, initiate with neutral stance* Given our positive view on oil prices, we are forecasting higher thermal coal prices over 2009E-2011E. However, with a stronger supply availability of coal, we believe that the coal price cycle may lag oil. Currently thermal coal prices are 20% of oil on an energy-equivalent basis, which is below the historical average of 26% (the historical range is 14%-51%). On an annual average basis we see coal as a percentage of oil declining from 25% in 2009E to 17% in 2011E. We are initiating coverage on the sector with a neutral stance. ·    * **Stock selective approach; Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi* Adaro is our top pick, given attractive valuations and a strong earnings growth trend as its low-priced legacy contracts expire. Meanwhile, we rate Bumi Resources as Sell due to rising capital costs, its increasing debt load and declining ROIC. We initiate on Straits Asia and Bukit Asam at
Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi
Bumi dah mau melejit bijinya dah keteken keras From: troyan troyan...@yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 2:23:08 PM Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Keknya udah pernah nyoba ya ? :D --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Djokro Wijaja stocksucker@ ... wrote: Service nya di celup baskom aer anget + garem hehehehhe . Habis itu di iris tipis tipis campur cuka + lada dan di goreng sampe gosong . heheheheh . Canda yah :)) On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 2:09 PM, troyan troyan...@. .. wrote: Bisa aja sih 2800, tapi ane sih udah jualan :D ya kalo naik lagi mungkin belum rejeki ane, yang penting cukuplah untuk service biji :D --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups. com, Vincent Chase chase.vincent@ wrote: 4800 KOMPOR MODE ON!!! --- On Wed, 10/21/09, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ wrote: From: It's Elaine! elainesui83@ Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 6:55 AM  I think so. Selling up to 2800? On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:46 PM, troyan troyan...@yahoo. com wrote: itu karena dia mau jualan ADRO yang udah beli dr 3 bulan lalu dan mau beli BUMI --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ wrote: *Wow it took 3 months for this one to be avail to public?* On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sanjaya mysanjaya.hd@ ... wrote:   - - *From: *Sonny John sonny.john@ .. *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:17:40 +0700 *Subject: *FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Please see latest GS research on ASEAN Metals and Mining (Coal), and on Bumi and Adaro. *Stock              GS Rating        Current Px    * *12 Month Target Px   *     * * *Bumi Resources (BUMI.IJ)     **Sell           **Idr **2,850 **Idr **2,300    * *Adaro (ADRO.IJ)     **Buy           **Idr **1,510    ** Idr **2,800* *         * *Key Summary Points:-* ·    * **Rising oil prices are positive for coal equities* Historically, thermal coal prices have been highly correlated to oil prices (88% over the past 10 years), and so have coal stock prices (87% correlated since 2003). We are positive on the outlook for oil, and last month we raised our 2010E and 2011E oil price forecasts to US$90/bbl and US$110/bbl, respectively, on stronger demand projections (our report from September 24, 2009, Global: Energy: Oilâ€Recovery and relapse, v2). ·    * **No major supply destruction, some projects nearing completion* Despite the downturn, there has not been any major reduction in thermal coal capex and in fact several projects are nearing completion. Australia's new third coal port terminal (NCIG) is expected to ship first coal in early 2010E, with a full ramp-up by 2011 (representing a 30% expansion in export capacity). Meanwhile, we estimate that Indonesian coal producers may increase capacity by 40% by year-end 2010E. Our global thermal coal supply-demand estimates indicate that the supply surplus in 2009E is likely to narrow in 2010E due to stronger demand, but it is still in surplus. ·    * **Coal price upcycle may lag oil, initiate with neutral stance* Given our positive view on oil prices, we are forecasting higher thermal coal prices over 2009E-2011E. However, with a stronger supply availability of coal, we believe that the coal price cycle may lag oil. Currently thermal coal prices are 20% of oil on an energy-equivalent basis, which is below the historical average of 26% (the historical range is 14%-51%). On an annual average basis we see coal as a percentage of oil declining from 25% in 2009E to 17% in 2011E. We are initiating coverage on the sector with a neutral stance. ·    * **Stock selective approach; Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi* Adaro is our top pick, given attractive valuations and a strong earnings
[ob] BDMN
Target Price BDMN -- per 21 Okt 2009 : CIMB Rp. 6.700 per 21 Okt 2009 : Danareksa Rp. 6.600 per 21 Okt 2009 : Macquarie Rp. 5.500
Re: [ob] Apa itu Fractal ?
Cakep mbah... Fraktal adalah keteraturan pola yang beruang. chaos adalah keadaan yang terlihat kacau tetapi sebenarnya ber pola... thx Hans 2009/10/21 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Kata fractal berasal dari Facture atau Broken, kata fractal ini dikemukakan oleh Mandelbrot, seorang ahli Chaos (kekacauan). Fractal adalah sebuah bentuk geometri dimana jika dipecah pecah menjadi pecahan yg lebih kecil maka pecahan kecil itu akan punya bentuk yg SELF SIMILARITY dengan bentuk aslinya. Kenapa perubahan harga/reversal disebut Fractal karena memang bentuk fractal V ini adalah pecahan yg SELF SIMILAR dari bentuk fractal V yg lebih besar. Contoh: - Jika pada grafik mingguan terjadi Fractal V maka pada skala harian akan ditemukan juga Fractal V yg lebih kecil. Dan ini akan berulang keskala yg lebih kecil, jam dan menit. Kebakaran besar berasal dari kebakaran yg lebih kecil dan kebakaran kecil berasal dari titik api. Tapi ini tidak berlaku sebaliknya. Jadi jika ada titik api maka belum tentu jadi kebakaran besar. Kalo kita lihat grafik BUMI, pada level 2850 sudah terjadi Fractal V pada skala grafik 30 menit, apakah Fractal ini akan menjadi Fractal V yg lebih besar pada skala harian atau mingguan ?. Jawabannya belum tentu, tapi perhatian kita harus FOCUC pada Fractal V di 2850 karena fractal intraday ini bisa saja menjadi CIKAL BAKAL fractal V yg lebih besar... Ingat semua GERAKAN BESAR BERASAL DARI BENTUK FRACTAL INI, jadi semua trade sebaiknya dimulai dengan adanya fractal... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Hans Kwee hanskwe...@... wrote: ikut nimbrung mbah... Saya melihat fraktal adalah sebuah keadaan dimana segala sesuatu berulang dengan teratur embah... salah satunya setelah kenaikan ada penurunan setelah penurunan ada kenaikan perubahan dan pola ini bisa di kenalin dan membantu prediksi arah... thx Hans 2009/10/21 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... Apa itu Fractal ? Fractal adalah PERUBAHAN PERILAKU kata si Bill Contoh: - Keadaan kebakaran menjadi tidak kebakaran adalah suatu Fractal - Perubahan harga yg asalnya downtrend menjadi uptrend adalah suatu Fractal. Jika harga berubah dari turun menjadi naik disebut Fractal Down (Bentuk V). Jika harga berubah dari naik menjadi turun disebut Fractal Up (V terbalik). Menggapa Fractal ini penting kata si Bill ? Karena semua pergerakan harga yg BESAR berasal dari fractal ini, jadi Fractal ini sangat penting. Fractal ini seperti titik api yg bisa menjadi kebakaran besar atau malah padam, tapi tidak mungkin ada kebakaran besar bila tidak diawali titik api kecil. Pada gambar dibawah terlihat banyak Fractal (Black Diamond), Fractal2 ini ada yg tidak significant TAPI ada yang menjadi TITIK REVERSAL. Jadi titik titik Fractal ini harus diawasi http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbumi.png
[ob] Peluang belanja
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RE: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR
mbah bumi mau ke mana nich. kanan atau kiri kiri ato kanan --- On Wed, 21/10/09, Peter Alimin milis...@live.com wrote: From: Peter Alimin milis...@live.com Subject: RE: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR To: OB obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 21 October, 2009, 2:10 PM BNBR is leading now... -1,6% vs -2,6% To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com From: chase.vincent@ yahoo.com Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:40:56 -0700 Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR jendraa alll ll --- On Wed, 10/21/09, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2000@ yahoo.com wrote: From: Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2000@ yahoo.com Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR To: OB obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 3:10 AM Siap2 aja deh.. On the way ke 3800 dehhh. Serem2 dikit, tapi ada sinaran optimis di 3800-4000. Semoga diberkati tujuan optimis untuk oktober ini From: Peter Alimin milis...@live. com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:04:40 +0700To: OBobrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comSubject: RE: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR haha..liat aja deh.. brokernya arto CS udah mulai nih... kemarin bu kyle chen bilang sunny day... pak aria kirim bull warrior kalau 2925 di kiri.. To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com From: kido...@yahoo. com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 03:01:41 + Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR Ha ha :) --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_ 2...@... wrote: Balapan kebawah atau atas?? -Original Message- From: Peter Alimin milis...@.. . Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:52:17 To: OBobrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR lagi yuk... _ _ _ _ _ _ Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. http://www.microsof t.com/windows/ windowslive/ see-it-in- action/social- network-basics. aspx?ocid= PID23461: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- id:SI_SB_ 3:092010 Windows Live Hotmail: Your friends can get your Facebook updates, right from Hotmail®. Chat online and in real-time with friends and family! Windows Live Messenger New Email names for you! Get the Email name you#39;ve always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. Hurry before someone else does! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/aa/
RE: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi
jend. arto dah mulai jualan adro nya 1560-1550 ya.. pindahin dong jendral.. To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com From: andre...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:28:03 -0700 Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Bumi dah mau melejit bijinya dah keteken keras From: troyan troyan...@yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 2:23:08 PM Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Keknya udah pernah nyoba ya ? :D --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Djokro Wijaja stocksucker@ ... wrote: Service nya di celup baskom aer anget + garem hehehehhe . Habis itu di iris tipis tipis campur cuka + lada dan di goreng sampe gosong . heheheheh . Canda yah :)) On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 2:09 PM, troyan troyan...@. .. wrote: Bisa aja sih 2800, tapi ane sih udah jualan :D ya kalo naik lagi mungkin belum rejeki ane, yang penting cukuplah untuk service biji :D --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups. com, Vincent Chase chase.vincent@ wrote: 4800 KOMPOR MODE ON!!! --- On Wed, 10/21/09, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ wrote: From: It's Elaine! elainesui83@ Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 6:55 AM  I think so. Selling up to 2800? On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:46 PM, troyan troyan...@yahoo. com wrote: itu karena dia mau jualan ADRO yang udah beli dr 3 bulan lalu dan mau beli BUMI --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ wrote: *Wow it took 3 months for this one to be avail to public?* On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sanjaya mysanjaya.hd@ ... wrote:   - - *From: *Sonny John sonny..john@ .. *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:17:40 +0700 *Subject: *FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Please see latest GS research on ASEAN Metals and Mining (Coal), and on Bumi and Adaro. *Stock              GS Rating        Current Px    * *12 Month Target Px   *     * * *Bumi Resources (BUMI.IJ)     **Sell           **Idr **2,850 **Idr **2,300    * *Adaro (ADRO.IJ)     **Buy           **Idr **1,510    ** Idr **2,800* *         * *Key Summary Points:-* ·    * **Rising oil prices are positive for coal equities* Historically, thermal coal prices have been highly correlated to oil prices (88% over the past 10 years), and so have coal stock prices (87% correlated since 2003). We are positive on the outlook for oil, and last month we raised our 2010E and 2011E oil price forecasts to US$90/bbl and US$110/bbl, respectively, on stronger demand projections (our report from September 24, 2009, Global: Energy: Oilâ€Recovery and relapse, v2). ·    * **No major supply destruction, some projects nearing completion* Despite the downturn, there has not been any major reduction in thermal coal capex and in fact several projects are nearing completion. Australia's new third coal port terminal (NCIG) is expected to ship first coal in early 2010E, with a full ramp-up by 2011 (representing a 30% expansion in export capacity). Meanwhile, we estimate that Indonesian coal producers may increase capacity by 40% by year-end 2010E. Our global thermal coal supply-demand estimates indicate that the supply surplus in 2009E is likely to narrow in 2010E due to stronger demand, but it is still in surplus. ·    * **Coal price upcycle may lag oil, initiate with neutral stance* Given our positive view on oil prices, we are forecasting higher thermal coal prices over 2009E-2011E. However, with a stronger supply availability of coal, we believe that the coal price cycle may lag oil. Currently thermal coal prices are 20% of oil on an energy-equivalent basis, which is below
Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi
Mijet aja dah, kaga usah dagang hari ini *matiin notebook, kaboe pijet... Sori bro andre kejapri... -Original Message- From: Andre Andre andre...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:28:03 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Bumi dah mau melejit bijinya dah keteken keras From: troyan troyan...@yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 2:23:08 PM Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Keknya udah pernah nyoba ya ? :D --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Djokro Wijaja stocksucker@ ... wrote: Service nya di celup baskom aer anget + garem hehehehhe . Habis itu di iris tipis tipis campur cuka + lada dan di goreng sampe gosong . heheheheh . Canda yah :)) On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 2:09 PM, troyan troyan...@. .. wrote: Bisa aja sih 2800, tapi ane sih udah jualan :D ya kalo naik lagi mungkin belum rejeki ane, yang penting cukuplah untuk service biji :D --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups. com, Vincent Chase chase.vincent@ wrote: 4800 KOMPOR MODE ON!!! --- On Wed, 10/21/09, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ wrote: From: It's Elaine! elainesui83@ Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 6:55 AM  I think so. Selling up to 2800? On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:46 PM, troyan troyan...@yahoo. com wrote: itu karena dia mau jualan ADRO yang udah beli dr 3 bulan lalu dan mau beli BUMI --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ wrote: *Wow it took 3 months for this one to be avail to public?* On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sanjaya mysanjaya.hd@ ... wrote:   - - *From: *Sonny John sonny.john@ .. *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:17:40 +0700 *Subject: *FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Please see latest GS research on ASEAN Metals and Mining (Coal), and on Bumi and Adaro. *Stock              GS Rating        Current Px    * *12 Month Target Px   *     * * *Bumi Resources (BUMI.IJ)     **Sell           **Idr **2,850 **Idr **2,300    * *Adaro (ADRO.IJ)     **Buy           **Idr **1,510    ** Idr **2,800* *         * *Key Summary Points:-* ·    * **Rising oil prices are positive for coal equities* Historically, thermal coal prices have been highly correlated to oil prices (88% over the past 10 years), and so have coal stock prices (87% correlated since 2003). We are positive on the outlook for oil, and last month we raised our 2010E and 2011E oil price forecasts to US$90/bbl and US$110/bbl, respectively, on stronger demand projections (our report from September 24, 2009, Global: Energy: Oilâ€Recovery and relapse, v2). ·    * **No major supply destruction, some projects nearing completion* Despite the downturn, there has not been any major reduction in thermal coal capex and in fact several projects are nearing completion. Australia's new third coal port terminal (NCIG) is expected to ship first coal in early 2010E, with a full ramp-up by 2011 (representing a 30% expansion in export capacity). Meanwhile, we estimate that Indonesian coal producers may increase capacity by 40% by year-end 2010E. Our global thermal coal supply-demand estimates indicate that the supply surplus in 2009E is likely to narrow in 2010E due to stronger demand, but it is still in surplus. ·    * **Coal price upcycle may lag oil, initiate with neutral stance* Given our positive view on oil prices, we are forecasting higher thermal coal prices over 2009E-2011E. However, with a stronger supply availability of coal, we believe that the coal price cycle may lag oil. Currently thermal coal prices are 20% of oil on an energy-equivalent basis, which is below the historical average of 26% (the historical range is 14%-51%). On an annual average basis we see coal as a percentage of oil declining from 25% in 2009E
[ob] Berita BUMI and HErald... Good News nya kurang ya??
Calipso Investment Pte Ltd, anak perusahaan PT Bumi Resources Tbk (BUMI), akhirnya menguasai 98,39 persen saham Herald Resources. Berdasarkan penjelasan tertulis yang dipublikasikan otoritas pasar modal Australia (Australian Securities Exchange/ASX), Calipso telah menutup penawaran untuk sisa saham Herald pada 20 Oktober 2009.Selanjutnya, Calipso akan memproses kewajiban pembelian sisa saham Herald tersebut sesuai ketentuan yang berlaku di bursa efek Australia.Kepemilikan Calipso di Herald tersebut meningkat setelah sebelumnya direktur independen Herald Resources Limited menerima tawaran Bumi Resources melalui Calipso Investment Pte Ltd untuk membeli sisa saham Herald. Pada 30 September 2009, Bumi merevisi tawaran harga saham Herald milik publik menjadi Aus$ 0,93 dari sebelumnya Aus$ 0,7 per saham.Dalam publikasi yang dilakukan Herald pada 15 Oktober 2009 disebutkan, Calipso telah meningkatkan kepemilikan sahamnya di Herald Resources menjadi 92,45 persen.Calipso sudah mengonfirmasi bahwa penawaran tidak akan dinaikkan lagi dan berakhir pada 20 Oktober 2009. Thank You! ThomaS FredericK
Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi
Wakkakakaak Jadi inget sambel goreng ati Ini sambel goreng biji Pi all. -Original Message- From: troyan troyan...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 07:23:08 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Keknya udah pernah nyoba ya ? :D --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Djokro Wijaja stocksuc...@... wrote: Service nya di celup baskom aer anget + garem hehehehhe . Habis itu di iris tipis tipis campur cuka + lada dan di goreng sampe gosong . heheheheh . Canda yah :)) On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 2:09 PM, troyan troyan...@... wrote: Bisa aja sih 2800, tapi ane sih udah jualan :D ya kalo naik lagi mungkin belum rejeki ane, yang penting cukuplah untuk service biji :D --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Vincent Chase chase.vincent@ wrote: 4800 KOMPOR MODE ON!!! --- On Wed, 10/21/09, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ wrote: From: It's Elaine! elainesui83@ Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 6:55 AM  I think so. Selling up to 2800? On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:46 PM, troyan troyan...@yahoo. com wrote: itu karena dia mau jualan ADRO yang udah beli dr 3 bulan lalu dan mau beli BUMI --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ wrote: *Wow it took 3 months for this one to be avail to public?* On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sanjaya mysanjaya.hd@ ... wrote:   - - *From: *Sonny John sonny.john@ .. *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:17:40 +0700 *Subject: *FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Please see latest GS research on ASEAN Metals and Mining (Coal), and on Bumi and Adaro. *Stock              GS Rating        Current Px    * *12 Month Target Px   *     * * *Bumi Resources (BUMI.IJ)     **Sell           **Idr **2,850 **Idr **2,300    * *Adaro (ADRO.IJ)     **Buy           **Idr **1,510    ** Idr **2,800* *         * *Key Summary Points:-* ·    * **Rising oil prices are positive for coal equities* Historically, thermal coal prices have been highly correlated to oil prices (88% over the past 10 years), and so have coal stock prices (87% correlated since 2003). We are positive on the outlook for oil, and last month we raised our 2010E and 2011E oil price forecasts to US$90/bbl and US$110/bbl, respectively, on stronger demand projections (our report from September 24, 2009, Global: Energy: Oilâ€Recovery and relapse, v2). ·    * **No major supply destruction, some projects nearing completion* Despite the downturn, there has not been any major reduction in thermal coal capex and in fact several projects are nearing completion. Australia's new third coal port terminal (NCIG) is expected to ship first coal in early 2010E, with a full ramp-up by 2011 (representing a 30% expansion in export capacity). Meanwhile, we estimate that Indonesian coal producers may increase capacity by 40% by year-end 2010E. Our global thermal coal supply-demand estimates indicate that the supply surplus in 2009E is likely to narrow in 2010E due to stronger demand, but it is still in surplus. ·    * **Coal price upcycle may lag oil, initiate with neutral stance* Given our positive view on oil prices, we are forecasting higher thermal coal prices over 2009E-2011E. However, with a stronger supply availability of coal, we believe that the coal price cycle may lag oil. Currently thermal coal prices are 20% of oil on an energy-equivalent basis, which is below the historical average of 26% (the historical range is 14%-51%). On an annual average basis we see coal as a percentage of oil declining from 25% in 2009E to 17% in 2011E. We are initiating coverage on the sector with a neutral stance. ·    * **Stock selective approach; Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi* Adaro is our top pick, given attractive valuations and a strong earnings
Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi
...bg dari sudut buaya? kok spt nya BUAYA nya diem aja..? masih tidur gak yah? --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, troyan troyan...@yahoo.com menulis: Dari: troyan troyan...@yahoo.com Judul: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 2:23 PM Keknya udah pernah nyoba ya ? :D --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Djokro Wijaja stocksucker@ ... wrote: Service nya di celup baskom aer anget + garem hehehehhe . Habis itu di iris tipis tipis campur cuka + lada dan di goreng sampe gosong . heheheheh . Canda yah :)) On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 2:09 PM, troyan troyan...@. .. wrote: Bisa aja sih 2800, tapi ane sih udah jualan :D ya kalo naik lagi mungkin belum rejeki ane, yang penting cukuplah untuk service biji :D --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups. com, Vincent Chase chase.vincent@ wrote: 4800 KOMPOR MODE ON!!! --- On Wed, 10/21/09, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ wrote: From: It's Elaine! elainesui83@ Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 6:55 AM  I think so. Selling up to 2800? On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:46 PM, troyan troyan...@yahoo. com wrote: itu karena dia mau jualan ADRO yang udah beli dr 3 bulan lalu dan mau beli BUMI --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ wrote: *Wow it took 3 months for this one to be avail to public?* On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sanjaya mysanjaya.hd@ ... wrote:   - - *From: *Sonny John sonny.john@ .. *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:17:40 +0700 *Subject: *FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Please see latest GS research on ASEAN Metals and Mining (Coal), and on Bumi and Adaro. *Stock              GS Rating        Current Px    * *12 Month Target Px   *     * * *Bumi Resources (BUMI.IJ)     **Sell           **Idr **2,850 **Idr **2,300    * *Adaro (ADRO.IJ)     **Buy           **Idr **1,510    ** Idr **2,800* *         * *Key Summary Points:-* ·    * **Rising oil prices are positive for coal equities* Historically, thermal coal prices have been highly correlated to oil prices (88% over the past 10 years), and so have coal stock prices (87% correlated since 2003). We are positive on the outlook for oil, and last month we raised our 2010E and 2011E oil price forecasts to US$90/bbl and US$110/bbl, respectively, on stronger demand projections (our report from September 24, 2009, Global: Energy: Oilâ€Recovery and relapse, v2). ·    * **No major supply destruction, some projects nearing completion* Despite the downturn, there has not been any major reduction in thermal coal capex and in fact several projects are nearing completion. Australia's new third coal port terminal (NCIG) is expected to ship first coal in early 2010E, with a full ramp-up by 2011 (representing a 30% expansion in export capacity). Meanwhile, we estimate that Indonesian coal producers may increase capacity by 40% by year-end 2010E. Our global thermal coal supply-demand estimates indicate that the supply surplus in 2009E is likely to narrow in 2010E due to stronger demand, but it is still in surplus. ·    * **Coal price upcycle may lag oil, initiate with neutral stance* Given our positive view on oil prices, we are forecasting higher thermal coal prices over 2009E-2011E. However, with a stronger supply availability of coal, we believe that the coal price cycle may lag oil. Currently thermal coal prices are 20% of oil on an energy-equivalent basis, which is below the historical average of 26% (the historical range is 14%-51%). On an annual average basis we see coal as a percentage of oil declining from 25% in 2009E to 17% in 2011E. We are initiating coverage on the sector with a neutral stance. ·    * **Stock selective approach; Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi* Adaro is our top pick, given attractive valuations and a strong earnings growth
RE: [ob] Apa itu Fractal ?
Tanya mBah: Dalam teori buayanya Bill apa pengaruh dari munculnya fractal V dan ^? Semacam trigger? Tks, Eko From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hans Kwee Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:30 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Apa itu Fractal ? Cakep mbah... Fraktal adalah keteraturan pola yang beruang. chaos adalah keadaan yang terlihat kacau tetapi sebenarnya ber pola... thx Hans 2009/10/21 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Kata fractal berasal dari Facture atau Broken, kata fractal ini dikemukakan oleh Mandelbrot, seorang ahli Chaos (kekacauan). Fractal adalah sebuah bentuk geometri dimana jika dipecah pecah menjadi pecahan yg lebih kecil maka pecahan kecil itu akan punya bentuk yg SELF SIMILARITY dengan bentuk aslinya. Kenapa perubahan harga/reversal disebut Fractal karena memang bentuk fractal V ini adalah pecahan yg SELF SIMILAR dari bentuk fractal V yg lebih besar. Contoh: - Jika pada grafik mingguan terjadi Fractal V maka pada skala harian akan ditemukan juga Fractal V yg lebih kecil. Dan ini akan berulang keskala yg lebih kecil, jam dan menit. Kebakaran besar berasal dari kebakaran yg lebih kecil dan kebakaran kecil berasal dari titik api. Tapi ini tidak berlaku sebaliknya. Jadi jika ada titik api maka belum tentu jadi kebakaran besar. Kalo kita lihat grafik BUMI, pada level 2850 sudah terjadi Fractal V pada skala grafik 30 menit, apakah Fractal ini akan menjadi Fractal V yg lebih besar pada skala harian atau mingguan ?. Jawabannya belum tentu, tapi perhatian kita harus FOCUC pada Fractal V di 2850 karena fractal intraday ini bisa saja menjadi CIKAL BAKAL fractal V yg lebih besar... Ingat semua GERAKAN BESAR BERASAL DARI BENTUK FRACTAL INI, jadi semua trade sebaiknya dimulai dengan adanya fractal... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , Hans Kwee hanskwe...@... wrote: ikut nimbrung mbah... Saya melihat fraktal adalah sebuah keadaan dimana segala sesuatu berulang dengan teratur embah... salah satunya setelah kenaikan ada penurunan setelah penurunan ada kenaikan perubahan dan pola ini bisa di kenalin dan membantu prediksi arah... thx Hans 2009/10/21 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... Apa itu Fractal ? Fractal adalah PERUBAHAN PERILAKU kata si Bill Contoh: - Keadaan kebakaran menjadi tidak kebakaran adalah suatu Fractal - Perubahan harga yg asalnya downtrend menjadi uptrend adalah suatu Fractal. Jika harga berubah dari turun menjadi naik disebut Fractal Down (Bentuk V). Jika harga berubah dari naik menjadi turun disebut Fractal Up (V terbalik). Menggapa Fractal ini penting kata si Bill ? Karena semua pergerakan harga yg BESAR berasal dari fractal ini, jadi Fractal ini sangat penting. Fractal ini seperti titik api yg bisa menjadi kebakaran besar atau malah padam, tapi tidak mungkin ada kebakaran besar bila tidak diawali titik api kecil. Pada gambar dibawah terlihat banyak Fractal (Black Diamond), Fractal2 ini ada yg tidak significant TAPI ada yang menjadi TITIK REVERSAL. Jadi titik titik Fractal ini harus diawasi http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbumi.png
Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi
Melejit juga biji BUMI From: Joe Martin milis.s4...@gmail.com To: Ob obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 2:32:52 PM Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Mijet aja dah, kaga usah dagang hari ini *matiin notebook, kaboe pijet... Sori bro andre kejapri From: Andre Andre andre...@yahoo. com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:28:03 -0700 (PDT) To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Bumi dah mau melejit bijinya dah keteken keras From: troyan troyan...@yahoo. com To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 2:23:08 PM Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Keknya udah pernah nyoba ya ? :D --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Djokro Wijaja stocksucker@ ... wrote: Service nya di celup baskom aer anget + garem hehehehhe . Habis itu di iris tipis tipis campur cuka + lada dan di goreng sampe gosong . heheheheh . Canda yah :)) On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 2:09 PM, troyan troyan...@. .. wrote: Bisa aja sih 2800, tapi ane sih udah jualan :D ya kalo naik lagi mungkin belum rejeki ane, yang penting cukuplah untuk service biji :D --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups. com, Vincent Chase chase.vincent@ wrote: 4800 KOMPOR MODE ON!!! --- On Wed, 10/21/09, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ wrote: From: It's Elaine! elainesui83@ Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 6:55 AM  I think so. Selling up to 2800? On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:46 PM, troyan troyan...@yahoo. com wrote: itu karena dia mau jualan ADRO yang udah beli dr 3 bulan lalu dan mau beli BUMI --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ wrote: *Wow it took 3 months for this one to be avail to public?* On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sanjaya mysanjaya.hd@ ... wrote:   - - *From: *Sonny John sonny..john@ .. *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:17:40 +0700 *Subject: *FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Please see latest GS research on ASEAN Metals and Mining (Coal), and on Bumi and Adaro. *Stock              GS Rating        Current Px    * *12 Month Target Px   *     * * *Bumi Resources (BUMI.IJ)     **Sell           **Idr **2,850 **Idr **2,300    * *Adaro (ADRO.IJ)     **Buy           **Idr **1,510    ** Idr **2,800* *         * *Key Summary Points:-* ·    * **Rising oil prices are positive for coal equities* Historically, thermal coal prices have been highly correlated to oil prices (88% over the past 10 years), and so have coal stock prices (87% correlated since 2003). We are positive on the outlook for oil, and last month we raised our 2010E and 2011E oil price forecasts to US$90/bbl and US$110/bbl, respectively, on stronger demand projections (our report from September 24, 2009, Global: Energy: Oilâ€Recovery and relapse, v2). ·    * **No major supply destruction, some projects nearing completion* Despite the downturn, there has not been any major reduction in thermal coal capex and in fact several projects are nearing completion. Australia's new third coal port terminal (NCIG) is expected to ship first coal in early 2010E, with a full ramp-up by 2011 (representing a 30% expansion in export capacity). Meanwhile, we estimate that Indonesian coal producers may increase capacity by 40% by year-end 2010E. Our global thermal coal supply-demand estimates indicate that the supply surplus in 2009E is likely to narrow in 2010E due to stronger demand, but it is still in surplus. ·    * **Coal price upcycle may lag oil, initiate with neutral stance* Given our positive view on oil prices, we are forecasting higher thermal coal prices over 2009E-2011E. However, with a stronger supply availability of coal, we believe that the coal price cycle may lag oil. Currently thermal coal prices are 20%
[ob] CPIN, distribution over the top?
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Re: [ob] Apa itu Fractal ?
Kalo diartikan secara POPULER, Fractal V artinya perubahan sifat atau perilaku. Kita ambil case BUMI: - pada level 2850, pada periode 5x 30 menit terjadi perubahan sifat BUMI yg maunya TURUN menjadi NAIK. - Seperti embah bilang sebelumnya, fractal V 30 pada grafik 30 menit ini tidak menjamin akan menjadi fractal V pada grafik harian. - Tapi AT LEAST, kita tahu bahwa pada level 2850 muncul 'TITIK API' yg bisa membesar atau pada kembali padam. - Tapi kita sudah siap untuk Trade, tapi menunggu signal2 lain yg mendukung. - Si Bill menggunakan indicator Momentum AO dan indicator Accelerator AC untuk mendapatkan signal tambahan. - Tapi bisa saja kita menggunakan indicator lain yg kita sudah pahami untuk memulai Trade kita. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Eko Widjajanto ekow...@... wrote: Tanya mBah: Dalam teori buayanya Bill apa pengaruh dari munculnya fractal V dan ^? Semacam trigger? Tks, Eko From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hans Kwee Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:30 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Apa itu Fractal ? Cakep mbah... Fraktal adalah keteraturan pola yang beruang. chaos adalah keadaan yang terlihat kacau tetapi sebenarnya ber pola... thx Hans 2009/10/21 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... Kata fractal berasal dari Facture atau Broken, kata fractal ini dikemukakan oleh Mandelbrot, seorang ahli Chaos (kekacauan). Fractal adalah sebuah bentuk geometri dimana jika dipecah pecah menjadi pecahan yg lebih kecil maka pecahan kecil itu akan punya bentuk yg SELF SIMILARITY dengan bentuk aslinya. Kenapa perubahan harga/reversal disebut Fractal karena memang bentuk fractal V ini adalah pecahan yg SELF SIMILAR dari bentuk fractal V yg lebih besar. Contoh: - Jika pada grafik mingguan terjadi Fractal V maka pada skala harian akan ditemukan juga Fractal V yg lebih kecil. Dan ini akan berulang keskala yg lebih kecil, jam dan menit. Kebakaran besar berasal dari kebakaran yg lebih kecil dan kebakaran kecil berasal dari titik api. Tapi ini tidak berlaku sebaliknya. Jadi jika ada titik api maka belum tentu jadi kebakaran besar. Kalo kita lihat grafik BUMI, pada level 2850 sudah terjadi Fractal V pada skala grafik 30 menit, apakah Fractal ini akan menjadi Fractal V yg lebih besar pada skala harian atau mingguan ?. Jawabannya belum tentu, tapi perhatian kita harus FOCUC pada Fractal V di 2850 karena fractal intraday ini bisa saja menjadi CIKAL BAKAL fractal V yg lebih besar... Ingat semua GERAKAN BESAR BERASAL DARI BENTUK FRACTAL INI, jadi semua trade sebaiknya dimulai dengan adanya fractal... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , Hans Kwee hanskwee01@ wrote: ikut nimbrung mbah... Saya melihat fraktal adalah sebuah keadaan dimana segala sesuatu berulang dengan teratur embah... salah satunya setelah kenaikan ada penurunan setelah penurunan ada kenaikan perubahan dan pola ini bisa di kenalin dan membantu prediksi arah... thx Hans 2009/10/21 jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ Apa itu Fractal ? Fractal adalah PERUBAHAN PERILAKU kata si Bill Contoh: - Keadaan kebakaran menjadi tidak kebakaran adalah suatu Fractal - Perubahan harga yg asalnya downtrend menjadi uptrend adalah suatu Fractal. Jika harga berubah dari turun menjadi naik disebut Fractal Down (Bentuk V). Jika harga berubah dari naik menjadi turun disebut Fractal Up (V terbalik). Menggapa Fractal ini penting kata si Bill ? Karena semua pergerakan harga yg BESAR berasal dari fractal ini, jadi Fractal ini sangat penting. Fractal ini seperti titik api yg bisa menjadi kebakaran besar atau malah padam, tapi tidak mungkin ada kebakaran besar bila tidak diawali titik api kecil. Pada gambar dibawah terlihat banyak Fractal (Black Diamond), Fractal2 ini ada yg tidak significant TAPI ada yang menjadi TITIK REVERSAL. Jadi titik titik Fractal ini harus diawasi http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbumi.png
Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I
ijoo dah. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, bad_boy aa.j...@gmail.com menulis: Dari: bad_boy aa.j...@gmail.com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM JENDRALpasukan berani mati siyaaappp... tunggu perintah komandan tapi peluru dah abis, pake petasan cabe rawit ajah yah --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, artomoro9 artomo...@... wrote: hehehe. kalo ane bilang DEAL ijo, ntar ente kaga dapat barang. diemin aja dulu. perhatikan terus. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andre...@... menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andre...@... Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:27 AM Om arto kasih bumi ijo hari ini deal ga? From: artomoro9 artomo...@... To: ob obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:22:07 AM Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I  maaf. maksudnya gak dikasih di bawah garis itu. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:20 AM Maksudnya mau dibawa ke garis merah atau mau ikut beli di garis merah ? DEAL nya ga jelas -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:16:46 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [ob] B U M I DEAL...!! regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Judul: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 10:52 AM     Garis merah merupakan area nyopet…., let see om BD berani masuk daerah itu ngga…, silahkan Om… J  JT         Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat.. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ Akses email lebih cepat. Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis) Selalu bisa chat di profil jaringan, blog, atau situs web pribadi! Yahoo! memungkinkan Anda selalu bisa chat melalui Pingbox. Coba! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links quot;Coba Yahoo! Mail baru yang LEBIH CEPAT. Rasakan bedanya sekarang! http://id.mail.yahoo.comquot;
Re: [ob] Apa itu Fractal ? - Portfolio selection
Ingat: - Profitunity Trading System menganjurkan kita untuk tidak mengambil posisi beli dibawah buaya. Apakah artinya kalo beli BUMI di 2800 sekarang akan KALAH ?. Jawabannnya: TIDAK !!! Metode profitunity system mengajarkan kita untuk mencari saham yg profitable dengan kemungkinan naik lebih besar dari pada turun. Daerah diatas buaya umumnya adalah daerah UPTREND jadi kalo kita maen diatas buaya kemungkinan kita menang lebih besar dibanding kalo kita maen dibawah buaya. Jadi kalo kita menggunakan metoda Profitunity maka portfolio investasi kita umumnya berisi saham saham yg harganya ada diatas buaya. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote: Kalo diartikan secara POPULER, Fractal V artinya perubahan sifat atau perilaku. Kita ambil case BUMI: - pada level 2850, pada periode 5x 30 menit terjadi perubahan sifat BUMI yg maunya TURUN menjadi NAIK. - Seperti embah bilang sebelumnya, fractal V 30 pada grafik 30 menit ini tidak menjamin akan menjadi fractal V pada grafik harian. - Tapi AT LEAST, kita tahu bahwa pada level 2850 muncul 'TITIK API' yg bisa membesar atau pada kembali padam. - Tapi kita sudah siap untuk Trade, tapi menunggu signal2 lain yg mendukung. - Si Bill menggunakan indicator Momentum AO dan indicator Accelerator AC untuk mendapatkan signal tambahan. - Tapi bisa saja kita menggunakan indicator lain yg kita sudah pahami untuk memulai Trade kita. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Eko Widjajanto ekow19d@ wrote: Tanya mBah: Dalam teori buayanya Bill apa pengaruh dari munculnya fractal V dan ^? Semacam trigger? Tks, Eko From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hans Kwee Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:30 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Apa itu Fractal ? Cakep mbah... Fraktal adalah keteraturan pola yang beruang. chaos adalah keadaan yang terlihat kacau tetapi sebenarnya ber pola... thx Hans 2009/10/21 jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ Kata fractal berasal dari Facture atau Broken, kata fractal ini dikemukakan oleh Mandelbrot, seorang ahli Chaos (kekacauan). Fractal adalah sebuah bentuk geometri dimana jika dipecah pecah menjadi pecahan yg lebih kecil maka pecahan kecil itu akan punya bentuk yg SELF SIMILARITY dengan bentuk aslinya. Kenapa perubahan harga/reversal disebut Fractal karena memang bentuk fractal V ini adalah pecahan yg SELF SIMILAR dari bentuk fractal V yg lebih besar. Contoh: - Jika pada grafik mingguan terjadi Fractal V maka pada skala harian akan ditemukan juga Fractal V yg lebih kecil. Dan ini akan berulang keskala yg lebih kecil, jam dan menit. Kebakaran besar berasal dari kebakaran yg lebih kecil dan kebakaran kecil berasal dari titik api. Tapi ini tidak berlaku sebaliknya. Jadi jika ada titik api maka belum tentu jadi kebakaran besar. Kalo kita lihat grafik BUMI, pada level 2850 sudah terjadi Fractal V pada skala grafik 30 menit, apakah Fractal ini akan menjadi Fractal V yg lebih besar pada skala harian atau mingguan ?. Jawabannya belum tentu, tapi perhatian kita harus FOCUC pada Fractal V di 2850 karena fractal intraday ini bisa saja menjadi CIKAL BAKAL fractal V yg lebih besar... Ingat semua GERAKAN BESAR BERASAL DARI BENTUK FRACTAL INI, jadi semua trade sebaiknya dimulai dengan adanya fractal... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , Hans Kwee hanskwee01@ wrote: ikut nimbrung mbah... Saya melihat fraktal adalah sebuah keadaan dimana segala sesuatu berulang dengan teratur embah... salah satunya setelah kenaikan ada penurunan setelah penurunan ada kenaikan perubahan dan pola ini bisa di kenalin dan membantu prediksi arah... thx Hans 2009/10/21 jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ Apa itu Fractal ? Fractal adalah PERUBAHAN PERILAKU kata si Bill Contoh: - Keadaan kebakaran menjadi tidak kebakaran adalah suatu Fractal - Perubahan harga yg asalnya downtrend menjadi uptrend adalah suatu Fractal. Jika harga berubah dari turun menjadi naik disebut Fractal Down (Bentuk V). Jika harga berubah dari naik menjadi turun disebut Fractal Up (V terbalik). Menggapa Fractal ini penting kata si Bill ? Karena semua pergerakan harga yg BESAR berasal dari fractal ini, jadi Fractal ini sangat penting. Fractal ini seperti titik api yg bisa menjadi kebakaran besar atau malah padam, tapi tidak mungkin ada kebakaran besar bila tidak diawali titik api kecil. Pada gambar dibawah terlihat banyak Fractal (Black Diamond), Fractal2 ini ada yg tidak significant TAPI ada yang menjadi TITIK REVERSAL. Jadi titik titik Fractal ini harus diawasi
[ob] Re: ADHI
Wah pagi beli di 495, sore ngeliat lagi abis meeting tinggal 455.. volumenya gede banget.. Party is over? Pls any info.. ada yg bilang 510 dan game still on? Lalat ijo muda kejebak lilin gemerlap
[ob] [Goldman Sachs] Asean Metals Mining: Coal
Stock selective approach; Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Adaro (TP 1800) is our top pick, given attractive valuations and a strong earnings growth trend as its low-priced legacy contracts expire. Meanwhile, we rate Bumi Resources (TP 2300) as Sell due to rising capital costs, its increasing debt load and declining ROIC. We initiate on Straits Asia and Bukit Asam at Neutral.
Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I
SIAP om arto...saya bantu pake 1 lot From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 2:55:49 PM Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I ijoo dah. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, bad_boy aa.j...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: bad_boy aa.j...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM JENDRALpasukan berani mati siyaaappp... tunggu perintah komandan tapi peluru dah abis, pake petasan cabe rawit ajah yah --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, artomoro9 artomo...@.. . wrote: hehehe. kalo ane bilang DEAL ijo, ntar ente kaga dapat barang. diemin aja dulu. perhatikan terus. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andre...@... menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andre...@... Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:27 AM Om arto kasih bumi ijo hari ini deal ga? From: artomoro9 artomo...@.. . To: ob obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:22:07 AM Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I  maaf. maksudnya gak dikasih di bawah garis itu. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:20 AM Maksudnya mau dibawa ke garis merah atau mau ikut beli di garis merah ? DEAL nya ga jelas -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:16:46 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [ob] B U M I DEAL!! regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Judul: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 10:52 AM     Garis merah merupakan area nyopet…., let see om BD berani masuk daerah itu ngga…, silahkan Om… J  JT         Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat.. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ Akses email lebih cepat. Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis) Selalu bisa chat di profil jaringan, blog, atau situs web pribadi! Yahoo! memungkinkan Anda selalu bisa chat melalui Pingbox. Coba! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/ - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links Apakah wajar artis ikut Pemilu? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers!
RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I
sip dah. yg penting fractal bukan? jangan sampe apes besoknya. To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com From: artomo...@yahoo.co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:55:49 +0800 Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I ijoo dah. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, bad_boy aa.j...@gmail.com menulis: Dari: bad_boy aa.j...@gmail.com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM JENDRALpasukan berani mati siyaaappp... tunggu perintah komandan tapi peluru dah abis, pake petasan cabe rawit ajah yah --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, artomoro9 artomo...@... wrote: hehehe. kalo ane bilang DEAL ijo, ntar ente kaga dapat barang. diemin aja dulu. perhatikan terus. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andre...@... menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andre...@... Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:27 AM Om arto kasih bumi ijo hari ini deal ga? From: artomoro9 artomo...@... To: ob obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:22:07 AM Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I  maaf. maksudnya gak dikasih di bawah garis itu. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:20 AM Maksudnya mau dibawa ke garis merah atau mau ikut beli di garis merah ? DEAL nya ga jelas -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:16:46 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [ob] B U M I DEAL...!! regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Judul: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 10:52 AM     Garis merah merupakan area nyopet…., let see om BD berani masuk daerah itu ngga…, silahkan Om… J  JT         Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat.. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ Akses email lebih cepat. Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis) Selalu bisa chat di profil jaringan, blog, atau situs web pribadi! Yahoo! memungkinkan Anda selalu bisa chat melalui Pingbox. Coba! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links Apakah wajar artis ikut Pemilu? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers! _ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-id:SI_SB_1:092010
RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I
tinggal selangkah lagi ijonya.
regards,
A9
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sip dah.
yg penting fractal bukan?
jangan sampe apes besoknya.
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
From: artomo...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:55:49 +0800
Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I
ijoo dah.
regards,
A9
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JENDRALpasukan berani mati siyaaappp...
tunggu perintah komandan
tapi peluru dah abis, pake petasan cabe rawit ajah yah
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, artomoro9 artomo...@.. . wrote:
hehehe.
kalo ane bilang DEAL ijo, ntar ente kaga dapat barang.
diemin aja dulu. perhatikan terus.
regards,
A9
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Andre Andre andre...@... menulis:
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Om arto kasih bumi ijo hari ini deal ga?
From: artomoro9 artomo...@.. .
To: ob obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:22:07 AM
Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I
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maaf.
maksudnya gak dikasih di bawah garis itu.
regards,
A9
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Kepada: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id
Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:20 AM
Maksudnya mau dibawa ke garis merah atau mau ikut beli di garis merah ?
DEAL nya ga jelas
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From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:16:46
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Bls: [ob] B U M
I
DEAL...!!
regards,
A9
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Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 10:52 AM
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Re: [ob] Apa itu Fractal ? - Portfolio selection
Setuju mbah... Si Bill juga mengajarkan pembelian pertama dibawah buaya... dimana buayanya harus tidak boleh terlalu ganas lagi... kalau enggak kaki kita bisa di makan buaya... hehe 2009/10/21 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Ingat: - Profitunity Trading System menganjurkan kita untuk tidak mengambil posisi beli dibawah buaya. Apakah artinya kalo beli BUMI di 2800 sekarang akan KALAH ?. Jawabannnya: TIDAK !!! Metode profitunity system mengajarkan kita untuk mencari saham yg profitable dengan kemungkinan naik lebih besar dari pada turun. Daerah diatas buaya umumnya adalah daerah UPTREND jadi kalo kita maen diatas buaya kemungkinan kita menang lebih besar dibanding kalo kita maen dibawah buaya. Jadi kalo kita menggunakan metoda Profitunity maka portfolio investasi kita umumnya berisi saham saham yg harganya ada diatas buaya. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote: Kalo diartikan secara POPULER, Fractal V artinya perubahan sifat atau perilaku. Kita ambil case BUMI: - pada level 2850, pada periode 5x 30 menit terjadi perubahan sifat BUMI yg maunya TURUN menjadi NAIK. - Seperti embah bilang sebelumnya, fractal V 30 pada grafik 30 menit ini tidak menjamin akan menjadi fractal V pada grafik harian. - Tapi AT LEAST, kita tahu bahwa pada level 2850 muncul 'TITIK API' yg bisa membesar atau pada kembali padam. - Tapi kita sudah siap untuk Trade, tapi menunggu signal2 lain yg mendukung. - Si Bill menggunakan indicator Momentum AO dan indicator Accelerator AC untuk mendapatkan signal tambahan. - Tapi bisa saja kita menggunakan indicator lain yg kita sudah pahami untuk memulai Trade kita. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Eko Widjajanto ekow19d@ wrote: Tanya mBah: Dalam teori buayanya Bill apa pengaruh dari munculnya fractal V dan ^? Semacam trigger? Tks, Eko From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com[mailto: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hans Kwee Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:30 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Apa itu Fractal ? Cakep mbah... Fraktal adalah keteraturan pola yang beruang. chaos adalah keadaan yang terlihat kacau tetapi sebenarnya ber pola... thx Hans 2009/10/21 jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ Kata fractal berasal dari Facture atau Broken, kata fractal ini dikemukakan oleh Mandelbrot, seorang ahli Chaos (kekacauan). Fractal adalah sebuah bentuk geometri dimana jika dipecah pecah menjadi pecahan yg lebih kecil maka pecahan kecil itu akan punya bentuk yg SELF SIMILARITY dengan bentuk aslinya. Kenapa perubahan harga/reversal disebut Fractal karena memang bentuk fractal V ini adalah pecahan yg SELF SIMILAR dari bentuk fractal V yg lebih besar. Contoh: - Jika pada grafik mingguan terjadi Fractal V maka pada skala harian akan ditemukan juga Fractal V yg lebih kecil. Dan ini akan berulang keskala yg lebih kecil, jam dan menit. Kebakaran besar berasal dari kebakaran yg lebih kecil dan kebakaran kecil berasal dari titik api. Tapi ini tidak berlaku sebaliknya. Jadi jika ada titik api maka belum tentu jadi kebakaran besar. Kalo kita lihat grafik BUMI, pada level 2850 sudah terjadi Fractal V pada skala grafik 30 menit, apakah Fractal ini akan menjadi Fractal V yg lebih besar pada skala harian atau mingguan ?. Jawabannya belum tentu, tapi perhatian kita harus FOCUC pada Fractal V di 2850 karena fractal intraday ini bisa saja menjadi CIKAL BAKAL fractal V yg lebih besar... Ingat semua GERAKAN BESAR BERASAL DARI BENTUK FRACTAL INI, jadi semua trade sebaiknya dimulai dengan adanya fractal... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%2540yahoogroups.com , Hans Kwee hanskwee01@ wrote: ikut nimbrung mbah... Saya melihat fraktal adalah sebuah keadaan dimana segala sesuatu berulang dengan teratur embah... salah satunya setelah kenaikan ada penurunan setelah penurunan ada kenaikan perubahan dan pola ini bisa di kenalin dan membantu prediksi arah... thx Hans 2009/10/21 jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ Apa itu Fractal ? Fractal adalah PERUBAHAN PERILAKU kata si Bill Contoh: - Keadaan kebakaran menjadi tidak kebakaran adalah suatu Fractal - Perubahan harga yg asalnya downtrend menjadi uptrend adalah suatu Fractal. Jika harga berubah dari turun menjadi naik disebut Fractal Down (Bentuk V). Jika harga berubah dari naik menjadi turun disebut Fractal Up (V
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Om saya bantu lg skrg pake 2 lot From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 3:02:01 PM Subject: RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I tinggal selangkah lagi ijonya. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Peter Alimin milis...@live. com menulis: Dari: Peter Alimin milis...@live. com Judul: RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: OB obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 3:00 PM sip dah. yg penting fractal bukan? jangan sampe apes besoknya. To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com From: artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:55:49 +0800 Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I ijoo dah. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, bad_boy aa.j...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: bad_boy aa.j...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM JENDRALpasukan berani mati siyaaappp... tunggu perintah komandan tapi peluru dah abis, pake petasan cabe rawit ajah yah --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, artomoro9 artomo...@.. . wrote: hehehe. kalo ane bilang DEAL ijo, ntar ente kaga dapat barang. diemin aja dulu. perhatikan terus. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andre...@... menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andre...@... Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:27 AM Om arto kasih bumi ijo hari ini deal ga? From: artomoro9 artomo...@.. . To: ob obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:22:07 AM Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I  maaf. maksudnya gak dikasih di bawah garis itu. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:20 AM Maksudnya mau dibawa ke garis merah atau mau ikut beli di garis merah ? DEAL nya ga jelas -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:16:46 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [ob] B U M I DEAL...!! regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Judul: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 10:52 AM     Garis merah merupakan area nyopet…., let see om BD berani masuk daerah itu ngga…, silahkan Om… J  JT         Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat.. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ Akses email lebih cepat. Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis) Selalu bisa chat di profil jaringan, blog, atau situs web pribadi! Yahoo! memungkinkan Anda selalu bisa chat melalui Pingbox. Coba! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/ - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links Apakah wajar artis ikut Pemilu? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers! Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. Yahoo! Mail Kini Lebih Cepat dan Lebih Bersih. Rasakan bedanya sekarang!
Re: [ob] Apa itu Fractal ?
Fraktal juga dapat digunakan untuk menambah posis ketika harga diatas buaya darat 2009/10/21 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Kalo diartikan secara POPULER, Fractal V artinya perubahan sifat atau perilaku. Kita ambil case BUMI: - pada level 2850, pada periode 5x 30 menit terjadi perubahan sifat BUMI yg maunya TURUN menjadi NAIK. - Seperti embah bilang sebelumnya, fractal V 30 pada grafik 30 menit ini tidak menjamin akan menjadi fractal V pada grafik harian. - Tapi AT LEAST, kita tahu bahwa pada level 2850 muncul 'TITIK API' yg bisa membesar atau pada kembali padam. - Tapi kita sudah siap untuk Trade, tapi menunggu signal2 lain yg mendukung. - Si Bill menggunakan indicator Momentum AO dan indicator Accelerator AC untuk mendapatkan signal tambahan. - Tapi bisa saja kita menggunakan indicator lain yg kita sudah pahami untuk memulai Trade kita. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Eko Widjajanto ekow...@... wrote: Tanya mBah: Dalam teori buayanya Bill apa pengaruh dari munculnya fractal V dan ^? Semacam trigger? Tks, Eko From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com[mailto: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hans Kwee Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:30 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Apa itu Fractal ? Cakep mbah... Fraktal adalah keteraturan pola yang beruang. chaos adalah keadaan yang terlihat kacau tetapi sebenarnya ber pola... thx Hans 2009/10/21 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... Kata fractal berasal dari Facture atau Broken, kata fractal ini dikemukakan oleh Mandelbrot, seorang ahli Chaos (kekacauan). Fractal adalah sebuah bentuk geometri dimana jika dipecah pecah menjadi pecahan yg lebih kecil maka pecahan kecil itu akan punya bentuk yg SELF SIMILARITY dengan bentuk aslinya. Kenapa perubahan harga/reversal disebut Fractal karena memang bentuk fractal V ini adalah pecahan yg SELF SIMILAR dari bentuk fractal V yg lebih besar. Contoh: - Jika pada grafik mingguan terjadi Fractal V maka pada skala harian akan ditemukan juga Fractal V yg lebih kecil. Dan ini akan berulang keskala yg lebih kecil, jam dan menit. Kebakaran besar berasal dari kebakaran yg lebih kecil dan kebakaran kecil berasal dari titik api. Tapi ini tidak berlaku sebaliknya. Jadi jika ada titik api maka belum tentu jadi kebakaran besar. Kalo kita lihat grafik BUMI, pada level 2850 sudah terjadi Fractal V pada skala grafik 30 menit, apakah Fractal ini akan menjadi Fractal V yg lebih besar pada skala harian atau mingguan ?. Jawabannya belum tentu, tapi perhatian kita harus FOCUC pada Fractal V di 2850 karena fractal intraday ini bisa saja menjadi CIKAL BAKAL fractal V yg lebih besar... Ingat semua GERAKAN BESAR BERASAL DARI BENTUK FRACTAL INI, jadi semua trade sebaiknya dimulai dengan adanya fractal... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%2540yahoogroups.com , Hans Kwee hanskwee01@ wrote: ikut nimbrung mbah... Saya melihat fraktal adalah sebuah keadaan dimana segala sesuatu berulang dengan teratur embah... salah satunya setelah kenaikan ada penurunan setelah penurunan ada kenaikan perubahan dan pola ini bisa di kenalin dan membantu prediksi arah... thx Hans 2009/10/21 jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ Apa itu Fractal ? Fractal adalah PERUBAHAN PERILAKU kata si Bill Contoh: - Keadaan kebakaran menjadi tidak kebakaran adalah suatu Fractal - Perubahan harga yg asalnya downtrend menjadi uptrend adalah suatu Fractal. Jika harga berubah dari turun menjadi naik disebut Fractal Down (Bentuk V). Jika harga berubah dari naik menjadi turun disebut Fractal Up (V terbalik). Menggapa Fractal ini penting kata si Bill ? Karena semua pergerakan harga yg BESAR berasal dari fractal ini, jadi Fractal ini sangat penting. Fractal ini seperti titik api yg bisa menjadi kebakaran besar atau malah padam, tapi tidak mungkin ada kebakaran besar bila tidak diawali titik api kecil. Pada gambar dibawah terlihat banyak Fractal (Black Diamond), Fractal2 ini ada yg tidak significant TAPI ada yang menjadi TITIK REVERSAL. Jadi titik titik Fractal ini harus diawasi http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbumi.png
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I m in Jendral!!! --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, artomoro9 artomo...@... wrote: 1-2 lot adalah bentuk perjuangan. no problem. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andre...@... menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andre...@... Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 3:04 PM Om saya bantu lg skrg pake 2 lot From: artomoro9 artomo...@... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 3:02:01 PM Subject: RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I  tinggal selangkah lagi ijonya. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Peter Alimin milis...@live. com menulis: Dari: Peter Alimin milis...@live. com Judul: RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: OB obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 3:00 PM sip dah.. yg penting fractal bukan? jangan sampe apes besoknya. To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com From: artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:55:49 +0800 Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I  ijoo dah. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, bad_boy aa.j...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: bad_boy aa.j...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM JENDRALpasukan berani mati siyaaappp... tunggu perintah komandan tapi peluru dah abis, pake petasan cabe rawit ajah yah --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, artomoro9 artomoro9@ . wrote: hehehe. kalo ane bilang DEAL ijo, ntar ente kaga dapat barang. diemin aja dulu. perhatikan terus. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andref_r@ menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andref_r@ Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:27 AM       Om arto kasih bumi ijo hari ini deal ga? From: artomoro9 artomoro9@ . To: ob obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:22:07 AM Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I  Ã                maaf. maksudnya gak dikasih di bawah garis itu. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:20 AM Maksudnya mau dibawa ke garis merah atau mau ikut beli di garis merah ? DEAL nya ga jelas -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:16:46 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [ob] B U M  I DEAL...!! regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Judul: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 10:52 AM àààà  Garis merah merupakan area nyopetââ¬Â¦.,àlet see om BD berani masuk daerah itu nggaââ¬Â¦,àsilahkan  Omââ¬Â¦Ã J  Ã JT  Ã  Ã Ã Ã Ã  Ã Ã Ã Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat.. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/       Akses email lebih cepat.  Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis)                               Selalu bisa chat di profil jaringan, blog, atau situs web pribadi! Yahoo! memungkinkan Anda selalu bisa chat melalui Pingbox. Coba! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/ - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links Apakah wajar artis ikut Pemilu? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers! Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. Yahoo! Mail Kini Lebih Cepat dan Lebih Bersih. Rasakan
Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I
Thanx om From: icchanks iccha...@yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 3:12:36 PM Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I I m in Jendral!!! --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, artomoro9 artomo...@. .. wrote: 1-2 lot adalah bentuk perjuangan. no problem. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andre...@.. . menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andre...@.. . Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 3:04 PM Om saya bantu lg skrg pake 2 lot From: artomoro9 artomo...@. .. To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 3:02:01 PM Subject: RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I  tinggal selangkah lagi ijonya. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Peter Alimin milis...@live. com menulis: Dari: Peter Alimin milis...@live. com Judul: RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: OB obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 3:00 PM sip dah.. yg penting fractal bukan? jangan sampe apes besoknya. To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com From: artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:55:49 +0800 Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I  ijoo dah. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, bad_boy aa.j...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: bad_boy aa.j...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM JENDRALpasukan berani mati siyaaappp... tunggu perintah komandan tapi peluru dah abis, pake petasan cabe rawit ajah yah --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, artomoro9 artomoro9@ . wrote: hehehe. kalo ane bilang DEAL ijo, ntar ente kaga dapat barang. diemin aja dulu. perhatikan terus. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andref_r@ menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andref_r@ Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:27 AM       Om arto kasih bumi ijo hari ini deal ga? From: artomoro9 artomoro9@ . To: ob obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:22:07 AM Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I  Â                maaf. maksudnya gak dikasih di bawah garis itu. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:20 AM Maksudnya mau dibawa ke garis merah atau mau ikut beli di garis merah ? DEAL nya ga jelas -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:16:46 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [ob] B U M  I DEAL...!! regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Judul: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 10:52 AM       Garis merah merupakan area nyopet…., let see om BD berani masuk daerah itu ngga…, silahkan  Om… J  Â JT  Â  Â Â Â Â  Â Â Â Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat.. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/       Akses email lebih cepat.  Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis)                               Selalu bisa chat di profil jaringan, blog, atau situs web pribadi! Yahoo! memungkinkan Anda selalu bisa chat melalui Pingbox. Coba! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/ - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links Apakah wajar artis ikut Pemilu? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers! Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. Yahoo! Mail Kini Lebih Cepat dan
Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I
1lot jg belinya pake duit jd ikutan ahsika. --- On Wed, 10/21/09, artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id wrote: From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 4:11 AM 1-2 lot adalah bentuk perjuangan. no problem. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andre...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andre...@yahoo. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 3:04 PM Om saya bantu lg skrg pake 2 lot From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co..id To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 3:02:01 PM Subject: RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I tinggal selangkah lagi ijonya. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Peter Alimin milis...@live. com menulis: Dari: Peter Alimin milis...@live. com Judul: RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: OB obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 3:00 PM sip dah.. yg penting fractal bukan? jangan sampe apes besoknya. To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com From: artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:55:49 +0800 Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I ijoo dah. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, bad_boy aa.j...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: bad_boy aa.j...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM JENDRALpasukan berani mati siyaaappp... tunggu perintah komandan tapi peluru dah abis, pake petasan cabe rawit ajah yah --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, artomoro9 artomo...@.. . wrote: hehehe. kalo ane bilang DEAL ijo, ntar ente kaga dapat barang. diemin aja dulu. perhatikan terus. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andre...@... menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andre...@... Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:27 AM Om arto kasih bumi ijo hari ini deal ga? From: artomoro9 artomo...@.. . To: ob obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:22:07 AM Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I  maaf. maksudnya gak dikasih di bawah garis itu. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:20 AM Maksudnya mau dibawa ke garis merah atau mau ikut beli di garis merah ? DEAL nya ga jelas -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:16:46 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [ob] B U M I DEAL...!! regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Judul: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 10:52 AM     Garis merah merupakan area nyopet…., let see om BD berani masuk daerah itu ngga…, silahkan Om… J  JT         Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat.. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger .yahoo.com/ invite/ Akses email lebih cepat. Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis) Selalu bisa chat di profil jaringan, blog, atau situs web pribadi! Yahoo! memungkinkan Anda selalu bisa chat melalui Pingbox. Coba! http://id.messenger .yahoo.com/ pingbox/ - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links group/obrolan- bandar/ Apakah wajar artis ikut Pemilu? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers! Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. Yahoo! Mail Kini Lebih Cepat dan Lebih Bersih. Rasakan bedanya sekarang! Sikap Peduli Lingkungan? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers!
Re: [ob] Apa itu Fractal ? - Portfolio selection
Kalau begitu boleh SERBU BUMI ya mbah... Pada 21 Oktober 2009 14:57, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.idmenulis: Ingat: - Profitunity Trading System menganjurkan kita untuk tidak mengambil posisi beli dibawah buaya. Apakah artinya kalo beli BUMI di 2800 sekarang akan KALAH ?. Jawabannnya: TIDAK !!! Metode profitunity system mengajarkan kita untuk mencari saham yg profitable dengan kemungkinan naik lebih besar dari pada turun. Daerah diatas buaya umumnya adalah daerah UPTREND jadi kalo kita maen diatas buaya kemungkinan kita menang lebih besar dibanding kalo kita maen dibawah buaya. Jadi kalo kita menggunakan metoda Profitunity maka portfolio investasi kita umumnya berisi saham saham yg harganya ada diatas buaya. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote: Kalo diartikan secara POPULER, Fractal V artinya perubahan sifat atau perilaku. Kita ambil case BUMI: - pada level 2850, pada periode 5x 30 menit terjadi perubahan sifat BUMI yg maunya TURUN menjadi NAIK. - Seperti embah bilang sebelumnya, fractal V 30 pada grafik 30 menit ini tidak menjamin akan menjadi fractal V pada grafik harian. - Tapi AT LEAST, kita tahu bahwa pada level 2850 muncul 'TITIK API' yg bisa membesar atau pada kembali padam. - Tapi kita sudah siap untuk Trade, tapi menunggu signal2 lain yg mendukung. - Si Bill menggunakan indicator Momentum AO dan indicator Accelerator AC untuk mendapatkan signal tambahan. - Tapi bisa saja kita menggunakan indicator lain yg kita sudah pahami untuk memulai Trade kita. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Eko Widjajanto ekow19d@ wrote: Tanya mBah: Dalam teori buayanya Bill apa pengaruh dari munculnya fractal V dan ^? Semacam trigger? Tks, Eko From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com[mailto: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hans Kwee Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:30 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Apa itu Fractal ? Cakep mbah... Fraktal adalah keteraturan pola yang beruang. chaos adalah keadaan yang terlihat kacau tetapi sebenarnya ber pola... thx Hans 2009/10/21 jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ Kata fractal berasal dari Facture atau Broken, kata fractal ini dikemukakan oleh Mandelbrot, seorang ahli Chaos (kekacauan). Fractal adalah sebuah bentuk geometri dimana jika dipecah pecah menjadi pecahan yg lebih kecil maka pecahan kecil itu akan punya bentuk yg SELF SIMILARITY dengan bentuk aslinya. Kenapa perubahan harga/reversal disebut Fractal karena memang bentuk fractal V ini adalah pecahan yg SELF SIMILAR dari bentuk fractal V yg lebih besar. Contoh: - Jika pada grafik mingguan terjadi Fractal V maka pada skala harian akan ditemukan juga Fractal V yg lebih kecil. Dan ini akan berulang keskala yg lebih kecil, jam dan menit. Kebakaran besar berasal dari kebakaran yg lebih kecil dan kebakaran kecil berasal dari titik api. Tapi ini tidak berlaku sebaliknya. Jadi jika ada titik api maka belum tentu jadi kebakaran besar. Kalo kita lihat grafik BUMI, pada level 2850 sudah terjadi Fractal V pada skala grafik 30 menit, apakah Fractal ini akan menjadi Fractal V yg lebih besar pada skala harian atau mingguan ?. Jawabannya belum tentu, tapi perhatian kita harus FOCUC pada Fractal V di 2850 karena fractal intraday ini bisa saja menjadi CIKAL BAKAL fractal V yg lebih besar... Ingat semua GERAKAN BESAR BERASAL DARI BENTUK FRACTAL INI, jadi semua trade sebaiknya dimulai dengan adanya fractal... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%2540yahoogroups.com , Hans Kwee hanskwee01@ wrote: ikut nimbrung mbah... Saya melihat fraktal adalah sebuah keadaan dimana segala sesuatu berulang dengan teratur embah... salah satunya setelah kenaikan ada penurunan setelah penurunan ada kenaikan perubahan dan pola ini bisa di kenalin dan membantu prediksi arah... thx Hans 2009/10/21 jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ Apa itu Fractal ? Fractal adalah PERUBAHAN PERILAKU kata si Bill Contoh: - Keadaan kebakaran menjadi tidak kebakaran adalah suatu Fractal - Perubahan harga yg asalnya downtrend menjadi uptrend adalah suatu Fractal. Jika harga berubah dari turun menjadi naik disebut Fractal Down (Bentuk V). Jika harga berubah dari naik menjadi turun disebut Fractal Up (V terbalik). Menggapa Fractal ini penting kata si Bill ? Karena semua pergerakan harga yg BESAR
Re: [ob] Apa itu Fractal ? - Portfolio selection
wah thank you for incredible knowledgenya pak , it's really yummy From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 2:57:44 PM Subject: Re: [ob] Apa itu Fractal ? - Portfolio selection Ingat: - Profitunity Trading System menganjurkan kita untuk tidak mengambil posisi beli dibawah buaya. Apakah artinya kalo beli BUMI di 2800 sekarang akan KALAH ?. Jawabannnya: TIDAK !!! Metode profitunity system mengajarkan kita untuk mencari saham yg profitable dengan kemungkinan naik lebih besar dari pada turun. Daerah diatas buaya umumnya adalah daerah UPTREND jadi kalo kita maen diatas buaya kemungkinan kita menang lebih besar dibanding kalo kita maen dibawah buaya. Jadi kalo kita menggunakan metoda Profitunity maka portfolio investasi kita umumnya berisi saham saham yg harganya ada diatas buaya. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... wrote: Kalo diartikan secara POPULER, Fractal V artinya perubahan sifat atau perilaku. Kita ambil case BUMI: - pada level 2850, pada periode 5x 30 menit terjadi perubahan sifat BUMI yg maunya TURUN menjadi NAIK. - Seperti embah bilang sebelumnya, fractal V 30 pada grafik 30 menit ini tidak menjamin akan menjadi fractal V pada grafik harian. - Tapi AT LEAST, kita tahu bahwa pada level 2850 muncul 'TITIK API' yg bisa membesar atau pada kembali padam. - Tapi kita sudah siap untuk Trade, tapi menunggu signal2 lain yg mendukung. - Si Bill menggunakan indicator Momentum AO dan indicator Accelerator AC untuk mendapatkan signal tambahan. - Tapi bisa saja kita menggunakan indicator lain yg kita sudah pahami untuk memulai Trade kita. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Eko Widjajanto ekow19d@ wrote: Tanya mBah: Dalam teori buayanya Bill apa pengaruh dari munculnya fractal V dan ^? Semacam trigger? Tks, Eko From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Hans Kwee Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:30 PM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [ob] Apa itu Fractal ? Cakep mbah... Fraktal adalah keteraturan pola yang beruang. chaos adalah keadaan yang terlihat kacau tetapi sebenarnya ber pola... thx Hans 2009/10/21 jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ Kata fractal berasal dari Facture atau Broken, kata fractal ini dikemukakan oleh Mandelbrot, seorang ahli Chaos (kekacauan). Fractal adalah sebuah bentuk geometri dimana jika dipecah pecah menjadi pecahan yg lebih kecil maka pecahan kecil itu akan punya bentuk yg SELF SIMILARITY dengan bentuk aslinya. Kenapa perubahan harga/reversal disebut Fractal karena memang bentuk fractal V ini adalah pecahan yg SELF SIMILAR dari bentuk fractal V yg lebih besar. Contoh: - Jika pada grafik mingguan terjadi Fractal V maka pada skala harian akan ditemukan juga Fractal V yg lebih kecil. Dan ini akan berulang keskala yg lebih kecil, jam dan menit. Kebakaran besar berasal dari kebakaran yg lebih kecil dan kebakaran kecil berasal dari titik api. Tapi ini tidak berlaku sebaliknya. Jadi jika ada titik api maka belum tentu jadi kebakaran besar. Kalo kita lihat grafik BUMI, pada level 2850 sudah terjadi Fractal V pada skala grafik 30 menit, apakah Fractal ini akan menjadi Fractal V yg lebih besar pada skala harian atau mingguan ?. Jawabannya belum tentu, tapi perhatian kita harus FOCUC pada Fractal V di 2850 karena fractal intraday ini bisa saja menjadi CIKAL BAKAL fractal V yg lebih besar... Ingat semua GERAKAN BESAR BERASAL DARI BENTUK FRACTAL INI, jadi semua trade sebaiknya dimulai dengan adanya fractal... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com mailto:obrolan- bandar%40yahoogr oups.com , Hans Kwee hanskwee01@ wrote: ikut nimbrung mbah... Saya melihat fraktal adalah sebuah keadaan dimana segala sesuatu berulang dengan teratur embah... salah satunya setelah kenaikan ada penurunan setelah penurunan ada kenaikan perubahan dan pola ini bisa di kenalin dan membantu prediksi arah... thx Hans 2009/10/21 jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ Apa itu Fractal ? Fractal adalah PERUBAHAN PERILAKU kata si Bill Contoh: - Keadaan kebakaran menjadi tidak kebakaran adalah suatu Fractal - Perubahan harga yg asalnya downtrend menjadi uptrend adalah suatu Fractal. Jika harga berubah dari turun menjadi naik disebut Fractal Down (Bentuk V). Jika harga berubah dari naik menjadi turun disebut Fractal Up (V terbalik). Menggapa Fractal ini penting kata si Bill ? Karena semua pergerakan harga yg BESAR berasal dari fractal ini, jadi Fractal ini sangat penting. Fractal ini seperti titik api yg bisa menjadi kebakaran besar atau malah padam, tapi
Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I
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[ob] LET ME KNOW IF BUMI GOES GREEN....
soale layarku error nih, semua harga warnanya red, hehehe
RE: [ob] Apa itu Fractal ? - Portfolio selection
Nimbrung dikit: Chart harian tgl 15/10 ada fractal ^ (v kebalik) dan belum ada fractal baru. Jadi masih akan turun (?? Sorry kalau tafsiran saya atas teori si Bill salah) From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of anthonyt20 Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:05 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Apa itu Fractal ? - Portfolio selection Kalau begitu boleh SERBU BUMI ya mbah... Pada 21 Oktober 2009 14:57, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id menulis: Ingat: - Profitunity Trading System menganjurkan kita untuk tidak mengambil posisi beli dibawah buaya. Apakah artinya kalo beli BUMI di 2800 sekarang akan KALAH ?. Jawabannnya: TIDAK !!! Metode profitunity system mengajarkan kita untuk mencari saham yg profitable dengan kemungkinan naik lebih besar dari pada turun. Daerah diatas buaya umumnya adalah daerah UPTREND jadi kalo kita maen diatas buaya kemungkinan kita menang lebih besar dibanding kalo kita maen dibawah buaya. Jadi kalo kita menggunakan metoda Profitunity maka portfolio investasi kita umumnya berisi saham saham yg harganya ada diatas buaya. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote: Kalo diartikan secara POPULER, Fractal V artinya perubahan sifat atau perilaku. Kita ambil case BUMI: - pada level 2850, pada periode 5x 30 menit terjadi perubahan sifat BUMI yg maunya TURUN menjadi NAIK. - Seperti embah bilang sebelumnya, fractal V 30 pada grafik 30 menit ini tidak menjamin akan menjadi fractal V pada grafik harian. - Tapi AT LEAST, kita tahu bahwa pada level 2850 muncul 'TITIK API' yg bisa membesar atau pada kembali padam. - Tapi kita sudah siap untuk Trade, tapi menunggu signal2 lain yg mendukung. - Si Bill menggunakan indicator Momentum AO dan indicator Accelerator AC untuk mendapatkan signal tambahan. - Tapi bisa saja kita menggunakan indicator lain yg kita sudah pahami untuk memulai Trade kita. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , Eko Widjajanto ekow19d@ wrote: Tanya mBah: Dalam teori buayanya Bill apa pengaruh dari munculnya fractal V dan ^? Semacam trigger? Tks, Eko From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Hans Kwee Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:30 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Apa itu Fractal ? Cakep mbah... Fraktal adalah keteraturan pola yang beruang. chaos adalah keadaan yang terlihat kacau tetapi sebenarnya ber pola... thx Hans 2009/10/21 jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ Kata fractal berasal dari Facture atau Broken, kata fractal ini dikemukakan oleh Mandelbrot, seorang ahli Chaos (kekacauan). Fractal adalah sebuah bentuk geometri dimana jika dipecah pecah menjadi pecahan yg lebih kecil maka pecahan kecil itu akan punya bentuk yg SELF SIMILARITY dengan bentuk aslinya. Kenapa perubahan harga/reversal disebut Fractal karena memang bentuk fractal V ini adalah pecahan yg SELF SIMILAR dari bentuk fractal V yg lebih besar. Contoh: - Jika pada grafik mingguan terjadi Fractal V maka pada skala harian akan ditemukan juga Fractal V yg lebih kecil. Dan ini akan berulang keskala yg lebih kecil, jam dan menit. Kebakaran besar berasal dari kebakaran yg lebih kecil dan kebakaran kecil berasal dari titik api. Tapi ini tidak berlaku sebaliknya. Jadi jika ada titik api maka belum tentu jadi kebakaran besar. Kalo kita lihat grafik BUMI, pada level 2850 sudah terjadi Fractal V pada skala grafik 30 menit, apakah Fractal ini akan menjadi Fractal V yg lebih besar pada skala harian atau mingguan ?. Jawabannya belum tentu, tapi perhatian kita harus FOCUC pada Fractal V di 2850 karena fractal intraday ini bisa saja menjadi CIKAL BAKAL fractal V yg lebih besar... Ingat semua GERAKAN BESAR BERASAL DARI BENTUK FRACTAL INI, jadi semua trade sebaiknya dimulai dengan adanya fractal... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%2540yahoogroups.com , Hans Kwee hanskwee01@ wrote: ikut nimbrung mbah... Saya melihat fraktal adalah sebuah keadaan dimana segala sesuatu berulang dengan teratur embah... salah satunya setelah kenaikan ada penurunan setelah penurunan ada kenaikan perubahan dan pola ini bisa di kenalin dan membantu prediksi arah... thx Hans 2009/10/21 jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ Apa itu Fractal ? Fractal adalah PERUBAHAN PERILAKU kata si Bill Contoh: - Keadaan kebakaran menjadi tidak kebakaran adalah
[ob] Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi ( Ini Hanya RUMOR ! )
Scenario tahun lalu , membosankan , rumor rumor and rumor. Jangan percaya ! --- On Wed, 10/21/09, Joe Martin milis.s4...@gmail.com wrote: From: Joe Martin milis.s4...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi To: Ob obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 3:26 AM Wakkakakaak. ... Jadi inget sambel goreng ati Ini sambel goreng biji Pi all. From: troyan troyan...@yahoo. com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 07:23:08 - To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Keknya udah pernah nyoba ya ? :D --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Djokro Wijaja stocksucker@ ... wrote: Service nya di celup baskom aer anget + garem hehehehhe . Habis itu di iris tipis tipis campur cuka + lada dan di goreng sampe gosong . heheheheh . Canda yah :)) On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 2:09 PM, troyan troyan...@. .. wrote: Bisa aja sih 2800, tapi ane sih udah jualan :D ya kalo naik lagi mungkin belum rejeki ane, yang penting cukuplah untuk service biji :D --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups. com, Vincent Chase chase.vincent@ wrote: 4800 KOMPOR MODE ON!!! --- On Wed, 10/21/09, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ wrote: From: It's Elaine! elainesui83@ Subject: Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 6:55 AM  I think so. Selling up to 2800? On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:46 PM, troyan troyan...@yahoo. com wrote: itu karena dia mau jualan ADRO yang udah beli dr 3 bulan lalu dan mau beli BUMI --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ wrote: *Wow it took 3 months for this one to be avail to public?* On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sanjaya mysanjaya.hd@ ... wrote:   - - *From: *Sonny John sonny.john@ .. *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:17:40 +0700 *Subject: *FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Please see latest GS research on ASEAN Metals and Mining (Coal), and on Bumi and Adaro. *Stock              GS Rating        Current Px    * *12 Month Target Px   *     * * *Bumi Resources (BUMI.IJ)     **Sell           **Idr **2,850 **Idr **2,300    * *Adaro (ADRO.IJ)     **Buy           **Idr **1,510    ** Idr **2,800* *         * *Key Summary Points:-* ·    * **Rising oil prices are positive for coal equities* Historically, thermal coal prices have been highly correlated to oil prices (88% over the past 10 years), and so have coal stock prices (87% correlated since 2003). We are positive on the outlook for oil, and last month we raised our 2010E and 2011E oil price forecasts to US$90/bbl and US$110/bbl, respectively, on stronger demand projections (our report from September 24, 2009, Global: Energy: Oilâ€Recovery and relapse, v2). ·    * **No major supply destruction, some projects nearing completion* Despite the downturn, there has not been any major reduction in thermal coal capex and in fact several projects are nearing completion. Australia's new third coal port terminal (NCIG) is expected to ship first coal in early 2010E, with a full ramp-up by 2011 (representing a 30% expansion in export capacity). Meanwhile, we estimate that Indonesian coal producers may increase capacity by 40% by year-end 2010E. Our global thermal coal supply-demand estimates indicate that the supply surplus in 2009E is likely to narrow in 2010E due to stronger demand, but it is still in surplus. ·    * **Coal price upcycle may lag oil, initiate with neutral stance* Given our positive view on oil prices, we are forecasting higher thermal coal prices over 2009E-2011E. However, with a stronger supply availability of coal, we believe that the coal price cycle may lag oil. Currently thermal coal prices are 20% of oil on an energy-equivalent basis, which is below the historical average of 26% (the historical range is 14%-51%). On an annual average basis we see coal as a percentage of oil declining from 25% in 2009E to 17% in
[ob] Re: LET ME KNOW IF BUMI GOES GREEN....
GA bakal ijo kayanya sih, ga ada power dan momentumnya...
[ob] Re: LET ME KNOW IF BUMI GOES GREEN....
Besok aja yah diberitahu..wkwkkwwkwk --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, kelvin Chang kelvin.chan...@... wrote: soale layarku error nih, semua harga warnanya red, hehehe
Re: [JT] RE: [ob] B U M I
saya nunggu di 2500!! sebelum ngebut naik lagi... 2009/10/21 andref_r andre...@yahoo.com Bozz mrh Bumi dblg mau matengentar dibetot lho
[ob] Re: ADHI cuci piring gih
Tinggal yg beberes, nyapu ama cuci piring kotor..hehehe.. Bandarnya pindah ke Ciputra khek nya
Re: [ob] Re: Berani bilang inflow ??
Banyak bankir dan juga direktur keuangan sama sekali tidak faham Bursa (tdk semua namun banyak sekali) Beruntung kita ada di industry ini, krn mostly orang2 bursa lbh advance dr yg lain. Baik info maupun kemampuan dalam hal analisanya. Coba tanya orang2 bank, apa ngerti dia bikin Financial Engineering yg begitu rumit? Paling banter orang kredit lakukan analisa kredit yg sudah sangat baku. Bener ngga? Andi Lesmana -Original Message- From: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:35:23 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Re: Berani bilang inflow ?? Persoalannya walau dia tinggi dulu posisinya di bank, pas saya bicara sama dia soal saham dan arah inflow/outflow dia malah diam2 doang (maklum sdh 73 thn, konsentrasi sdh jauh dari dulu pas lagi galak2-nya jadinya binun kali hehehe). Mungkin dia lbh mendengarkan dulu semua argumen saya dan hari ini coba saya tanyakan lagi pendapat dia. Maklum soerang pengacara jg gitu sifatnya (selain bankir, ayah saya jg pengacara lbh dulu). Tapi memang bener kata Kang Ocoy, saya setuju bahwa kita perlu ada koreksi utk kembali menghidupkan bursa yg di limbo world ini, mati tidak hidup pun juga tidak. Thanks! 2009/10/21 kang_ocoy_maen_saham disclosure@gmail.com terima kasih Pak., saya hanya sekedar sharing thoughts aja. kalo berkenan Pak Rei kita2 dikasihtau sekilas hasil diskusi Pak Rei dan Ayahnya donk, pendapat dan pengamatan beliau pasti bisa kasih firming insight krn pengalaman dan sense Ayahnya Pak Rei sebagai Bankir senior pasti udah familiar sama situasi fluktuasi currency dan aliran keuangan internasional. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Rei highwaysta...@... wrote: Wah penjelasan yg menyeluruh dari Kang Ocoy. Baru kemarin saya bicara panjang lebar mengenai hal ini ke ayah saya, krn beliau kan ex-banker jadi nanya pendapat. Memang saya selalu ingat ajaran pak Oen, air selalu mengalir ke tempat yg lebih rendah.I love* OBU*!!! (*O*brolan *B*andar *U* niversity [?]) -- Sent from my computer of course!
Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I
ok... brangkat --- On Wed, 10/21/09, artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id wrote: From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 2:55 PM ijoo dah. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, bad_boy aa.j...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: bad_boy aa.j...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM JENDRALpasukan berani mati siyaaappp... tunggu perintah komandan tapi peluru dah abis, pake petasan cabe rawit ajah yah --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, artomoro9 artomo...@.. . wrote: hehehe. kalo ane bilang DEAL ijo, ntar ente kaga dapat barang. diemin aja dulu. perhatikan terus. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andre...@... menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andre...@... Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:27 AM Om arto kasih bumi ijo hari ini deal ga? From: artomoro9 artomo...@.. . To: ob obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:22:07 AM Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I  maaf. maksudnya gak dikasih di bawah garis itu. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:20 AM Maksudnya mau dibawa ke garis merah atau mau ikut beli di garis merah ? DEAL nya ga jelas -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:16:46 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [ob] B U M I DEAL...!! regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Judul: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 10:52 AM     Garis merah merupakan area nyopet…., let see om BD berani masuk daerah itu ngga…, silahkan Om… J  JT         Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat.. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger .yahoo.com/ invite/ Akses email lebih cepat. Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis) Selalu bisa chat di profil jaringan, blog, atau situs web pribadi! Yahoo! memungkinkan Anda selalu bisa chat melalui Pingbox. Coba! http://id.messenger .yahoo.com/ pingbox/ - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links Apakah wajar artis ikut Pemilu? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers!
RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I
sikat komandan 100rb lot di 2850!!! --- On Wed, 10/21/09, artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id wrote: From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id Subject: RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 8:02 AM tinggal selangkah lagi ijonya. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Peter Alimin milis...@live. com menulis: Dari: Peter Alimin milis...@live. com Judul: RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: OB obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 3:00 PM sip dah. yg penting fractal bukan? jangan sampe apes besoknya. To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com From: artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:55:49 +0800 Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I ijoo dah. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, bad_boy aa.j...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: bad_boy aa.j...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM JENDRALpasukan berani mati siyaaappp... tunggu perintah komandan tapi peluru dah abis, pake petasan cabe rawit ajah yah --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, artomoro9 artomo...@.. . wrote: hehehe. kalo ane bilang DEAL ijo, ntar ente kaga dapat barang. diemin aja dulu. perhatikan terus. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andre...@... menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andre...@... Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:27 AM Om arto kasih bumi ijo hari ini deal ga? From: artomoro9 artomo...@.. . To: ob obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:22:07 AM Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I  maaf. maksudnya gak dikasih di bawah garis itu. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:20 AM Maksudnya mau dibawa ke garis merah atau mau ikut beli di garis merah ? DEAL nya ga jelas -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:16:46 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [ob] B U M I DEAL...!! regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Judul: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 10:52 AM     Garis merah merupakan area nyopet…., let see om BD berani masuk daerah itu ngga…, silahkan Om… J  JT         Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat.. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger .yahoo.com/ invite/ Akses email lebih cepat. Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis) Selalu bisa chat di profil jaringan, blog, atau situs web pribadi! Yahoo! memungkinkan Anda selalu bisa chat melalui Pingbox. Coba! http://id.messenger .yahoo.com/ pingbox/ - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links Apakah wajar artis ikut Pemilu? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers! Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. Yahoo! Mail Kini Lebih Cepat dan Lebih Bersih. Rasakan bedanya sekarang!
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recehan ikutan ya jend. done 10 lot - jam 15.27 Dari: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Rab, 21 Oktober, 2009 15:11:28 Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I 1-2 lot adalah bentuk perjuangan. no problem. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andre...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andre...@yahoo. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 3:04 PM Om saya bantu lg skrg pake 2 lot From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co..id To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 3:02:01 PM Subject: RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I tinggal selangkah lagi ijonya. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Peter Alimin milis...@live. com menulis: Dari: Peter Alimin milis...@live. com Judul: RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: OB obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 3:00 PM sip dah.. yg penting fractal bukan? jangan sampe apes besoknya. To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com From: artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:55:49 +0800 Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I ijoo dah. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, bad_boy aa.j...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: bad_boy aa.j...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM JENDRALpasukan berani mati siyaaappp... tunggu perintah komandan tapi peluru dah abis, pake petasan cabe rawit ajah yah --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, artomoro9 artomo...@.. . wrote: hehehe. kalo ane bilang DEAL ijo, ntar ente kaga dapat barang. diemin aja dulu. perhatikan terus. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andre...@... menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andre...@... Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:27 AM Om arto kasih bumi ijo hari ini deal ga? From: artomoro9 artomo...@.. . To: ob obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:22:07 AM Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I  maaf. maksudnya gak dikasih di bawah garis itu. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:20 AM Maksudnya mau dibawa ke garis merah atau mau ikut beli di garis merah ? DEAL nya ga jelas -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:16:46 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [ob] B U M I DEAL...!! regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Judul: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 10:52 AM     Garis merah merupakan area nyopet…., let see om BD berani masuk daerah itu ngga…, silahkan Om… J  JT         Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat.. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger .yahoo.com/ invite/ Akses email lebih cepat. Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis) Selalu bisa chat di profil jaringan, blog, atau situs web pribadi! Yahoo! memungkinkan Anda selalu bisa chat melalui Pingbox. Coba! http://id.messenger .yahoo.com/ pingbox/ - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links Apakah wajar artis ikut Pemilu? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers! Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. Yahoo! Mail Kini Lebih Cepat dan Lebih Bersih. Rasakan bedanya sekarang! Sikap Peduli Lingkungan? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers! Terhubung langsung dengan banyak teman di blog dan situs pribadi Anda? Buat Pingbox terbaru Anda sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/
Re: [ob] Re: ADHI cuci piring gih
Sy lihat - maennya sangar banget : o Bid2 (kiri) tebel2 - Offer2 (kanan) relatif lebih tipis2 o Tapi, harga makin tetep turun2 terus Tinggal yg beberes, nyapu ama cuci piring kotor..hehehe.. Bandarnya pindah ke Ciputra khek nya
Re: [ob] Fw: prof JT, tolong terawangin Enrg donk
Kemaren ada yg tanya juga, masih nyusruk kayaknya, ntar malem dah ane liatin, skrng lagi gak didepan screen Powered by TLKM BullBerry® “ Good Trade Comes To Those Who Wait “ -Original Message- From: Mr Smith ytia...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:07:12 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Fw: prof JT, tolong terawangin Enrg donk - Original Message - From: Mr Smith To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:58 PM Subject: prof JT, tolong terawangin Enrg donk
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mbah, update peta bumi dong.. To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com From: chase.vinc...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 01:35:22 -0700 Subject: RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I sikat komandan 100rb lot di 2850!!! --- On Wed, 10/21/09, artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id wrote: From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id Subject: RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 8:02 AM tinggal selangkah lagi ijonya. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Peter Alimin milis...@live. com menulis: Dari: Peter Alimin milis...@live. com Judul: RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: OB obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 3:00 PM sip dah. yg penting fractal bukan? jangan sampe apes besoknya. To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com From: artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:55:49 +0800 Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I ijoo dah. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, bad_boy aa.j...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: bad_boy aa.j...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM JENDRALpasukan berani mati siyaaappp... tunggu perintah komandan tapi peluru dah abis, pake petasan cabe rawit ajah yah --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, artomoro9 artomo...@.. . wrote: hehehe. kalo ane bilang DEAL ijo, ntar ente kaga dapat barang. diemin aja dulu. perhatikan terus. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andre...@... menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andre...@... Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:27 AM Om arto kasih bumi ijo hari ini deal ga? From: artomoro9 artomo...@.. . To: ob obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:22:07 AM Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I  maaf. maksudnya gak dikasih di bawah garis itu. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:20 AM Maksudnya mau dibawa ke garis merah atau mau ikut beli di garis merah ? DEAL nya ga jelas -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:16:46 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [ob] B U M I DEAL...!! regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Judul: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 10:52 AM     Garis merah merupakan area nyopet…., let see om BD berani masuk daerah itu ngga…, silahkan Om… J  JT         Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat.. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger .yahoo.com/ invite/ Akses email lebih cepat. Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis) Selalu bisa chat di profil jaringan, blog, atau situs web pribadi! Yahoo! memungkinkan Anda selalu bisa chat melalui Pingbox. Coba! http://id.messenger .yahoo.com/ pingbox/ - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links Apakah wajar artis ikut Pemilu? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers! Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. Yahoo! Mail Kini Lebih Cepat dan Lebih Bersih. Rasakan bedanya sekarang! _ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on Facebook. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-id:SI_SB_2:092009
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Hahaha, RX gak sabaran.. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Peter Alimin milis...@... wrote: mbah, update peta bumi dong.. To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com From: chase.vinc...@... Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 01:35:22 -0700 Subject: RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I sikat komandan 100rb lot di 2850!!! --- On Wed, 10/21/09, artomoro9 artomo...@... wrote: From: artomoro9 artomo...@... Subject: RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 8:02 AM tinggal selangkah lagi ijonya. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Peter Alimin milis...@live. com menulis: Dari: Peter Alimin milis...@live. com Judul: RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: OB obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 3:00 PM sip dah. yg penting fractal bukan? jangan sampe apes besoknya. To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com From: artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:55:49 +0800 Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I ijoo dah. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, bad_boy aa.j...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: bad_boy aa.j...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM JENDRALpasukan berani mati siyaaappp... tunggu perintah komandan tapi peluru dah abis, pake petasan cabe rawit ajah yah --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, artomoro9 artomoro9@ . wrote: hehehe. kalo ane bilang DEAL ijo, ntar ente kaga dapat barang. diemin aja dulu. perhatikan terus. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andref_r@ menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andref_r@ Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:27 AM Om arto kasih bumi ijo hari ini deal ga? From: artomoro9 artomoro9@ . To: ob obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:22:07 AM Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I  maaf. maksudnya gak dikasih di bawah garis itu. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:20 AM Maksudnya mau dibawa ke garis merah atau mau ikut beli di garis merah ? DEAL nya ga jelas -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:16:46 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [ob] B U M I DEAL...!! regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Judul: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 10:52 AM     Garis merah merupakan area nyopetâ¦., let see om BD berani masuk daerah itu nggaâ¦, silahkan Omâ¦Â J  JT         Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat.. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger .yahoo.com/ invite/ Akses email lebih cepat. Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis) Selalu bisa chat di profil jaringan, blog, atau situs web pribadi! Yahoo! memungkinkan Anda selalu bisa chat melalui Pingbox. Coba! http://id.messenger .yahoo.com/ pingbox/ - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links Apakah wajar artis ikut Pemilu? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers! Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. Yahoo! Mail Kini Lebih Cepat dan Lebih Bersih. Rasakan bedanya sekarang!
Re: [ob] LET ME KNOW IF BUMI GOES GREEN....
DEALL --- On Wed, 10/21/09, kelvin Chang kelvin.chan...@yahoo.com wrote: From: kelvin Chang kelvin.chan...@yahoo.com Subject: [ob] LET ME KNOW IF BUMI GOES GREEN To: obrolan bandar obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 8:23 AM soale layarku error nih, semua harga warnanya red, hehehe
Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I
Jadi marah juga nih ane... gw bantuin sikat dah... Hahahahaha --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Chase chase.vinc...@... wrote: sikat komandan 100rb lot di 2850!!! --- On Wed, 10/21/09, artomoro9 artomo...@... wrote: From: artomoro9 artomo...@... Subject: RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 8:02 AM  tinggal selangkah lagi ijonya. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Peter Alimin milis...@live. com menulis: Dari: Peter Alimin milis...@live. com Judul: RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: OB obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 3:00 PM sip dah. yg penting fractal bukan? jangan sampe apes besoknya. To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com From: artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:55:49 +0800 Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I  ijoo dah. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, bad_boy aa.j...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: bad_boy aa.j...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM JENDRALpasukan berani mati siyaaappp... tunggu perintah komandan tapi peluru dah abis, pake petasan cabe rawit ajah yah --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, artomoro9 artomoro9@ . wrote: hehehe. kalo ane bilang DEAL ijo, ntar ente kaga dapat barang. diemin aja dulu. perhatikan terus. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andref_r@ menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andref_r@ Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:27 AM       Om arto kasih bumi ijo hari ini deal ga? From: artomoro9 artomoro9@ . To: ob obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:22:07 AM Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I  Ã                maaf. maksudnya gak dikasih di bawah garis itu. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:20 AM Maksudnya mau dibawa ke garis merah atau mau ikut beli di garis merah ? DEAL nya ga jelas -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:16:46 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [ob] B U M  I DEAL...!! regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Judul: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 10:52 AM àààà  Garis merah merupakan area nyopetââ¬Â¦.,àlet see om BD berani masuk daerah itu nggaââ¬Â¦,àsilahkan  Omââ¬Â¦Ã J  Ã JT  Ã  Ã Ã Ã Ã  Ã Ã Ã Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat.. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger .yahoo.com/ invite/       Akses email lebih cepat.  Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis)                               Selalu bisa chat di profil jaringan, blog, atau situs web pribadi! Yahoo! memungkinkan Anda selalu bisa chat melalui Pingbox. Coba! http://id.messenger .yahoo.com/ pingbox/ - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links Apakah wajar artis ikut Pemilu? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers! Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. Yahoo! Mail Kini Lebih Cepat dan Lebih Bersih. Rasakan bedanya sekarang!
[ob] BDMN BTPN 9m09 result table
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RE: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR
BNBR -0.8% BUMI -0.9%... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com From: mamank_...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:29:14 -0700 Subject: RE: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR mbah bumi mau ke mana nich. kanan atau kiri kiri ato kanan --- On Wed, 21/10/09, Peter Alimin milis...@live.com wrote: From: Peter Alimin milis...@live.com Subject: RE: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR To: OB obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 21 October, 2009, 2:10 PM BNBR is leading now... -1,6% vs -2,6% To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com From: chase.vincent@ yahoo.com Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:40:56 -0700 Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR jendraa alll ll --- On Wed, 10/21/09, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2000@ yahoo.com wrote: From: Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2000@ yahoo.com Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR To: OB obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 3:10 AM Siap2 aja deh.. On the way ke 3800 dehhh. Serem2 dikit, tapi ada sinaran optimis di 3800-4000. Semoga diberkati tujuan optimis untuk oktober ini From: Peter Alimin milis...@live. com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:04:40 +0700To: OBobrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comSubject: RE: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR haha..liat aja deh.. brokernya arto CS udah mulai nih... kemarin bu kyle chen bilang sunny day... pak aria kirim bull warrior kalau 2925 di kiri.. To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com From: kido...@yahoo. com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 03:01:41 + Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR Ha ha :) --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_ 2...@... wrote: Balapan kebawah atau atas?? -Original Message- From: Peter Alimin milis...@.. . Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:52:17 To: OBobrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR lagi yuk... _ _ _ _ _ _ Windows Live: Friends get your Flickr, Yelp, and Digg updates when they e-mail you. http://www.microsof t.com/windows/ windowslive/ see-it-in- action/social- network-basics. aspx?ocid= PID23461: :T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL:en- id:SI_SB_ 3:092010 Windows Live Hotmail: Your friends can get your Facebook updates, right from Hotmail®. Chat online and in real-time with friends and family! Windows Live Messenger New Email names for you! Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. Hurry before someone else does! _ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on Facebook. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-id:SI_SB_2:092009
Re: [ob] LET ME KNOW IF BUMI GOES GREEN....
serius candlesticknya ijo kok..harga emang merah..besok2 layar monitornya pake grafik aja pak hehehekalo candle merah harga ijo besok turun dan juga sebaliknya... Dario Amran --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Vincent Chase chase.vinc...@yahoo.com menulis: Dari: Vincent Chase chase.vinc...@yahoo.com Judul: Re: [ob] LET ME KNOW IF BUMI GOES GREEN Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 3:54 PM DEALL!!! ! --- On Wed, 10/21/09, kelvin Chang kelvin.chang70@ yahoo.com wrote: From: kelvin Chang kelvin.chang70@ yahoo.com Subject: [ob] LET ME KNOW IF BUMI GOES GREEN To: obrolan bandar obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 8:23 AM soale layarku error nih, semua harga warnanya red, hehehe Akses email lebih cepat. Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! http://downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer
RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I
ikut jendral 500 lot. --- On Wed, 10/21/09, Peter Alimin milis...@live.com wrote: From: Peter Alimin milis...@live.com Subject: RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I To: OB obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 4:41 AM mbah, update peta bumi dong.. To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com From: chase.vincent@ yahoo.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 01:35:22 -0700 Subject: RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I sikat komandan 100rb lot di 2850 ! !! --- On Wed, 10/21/09, artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id wrote: From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Subject: RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 8:02 AM tinggal selangkah lagi ijonya. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Peter Alimin milis...@live. com menulis: Dari: Peter Alimin milis...@live. com Judul: RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: OB obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 3:00 PM sip dah. yg penting fractal bukan? jangan sampe apes besoknya. To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com From: artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:55:49 +0800 Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I ijoo dah. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, bad_boy aa.j...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: bad_boy aa.j...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM JENDRALpasukan berani mati siyaaappp... tunggu perintah komandan tapi peluru dah abis, pake petasan cabe rawit ajah yah --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, artomoro9 artomo...@.. . wrote: hehehe. kalo ane bilang DEAL ijo, ntar ente kaga dapat barang. diemin aja dulu. perhatikan terus. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andre...@... menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andre...@... Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:27 AM Om arto kasih bumi ijo hari ini deal ga? From: artomoro9 artomo...@.. . To: ob obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:22:07 AM Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I  maaf. maksudnya gak dikasih di bawah garis itu. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:20 AM Maksudnya mau dibawa ke garis merah atau mau ikut beli di garis merah ? DEAL nya ga jelas -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:16:46 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [ob] B U M I DEAL...!! regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Judul: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 10:52 AM     Garis merah merupakan area nyopet…., let see om BD berani masuk daerah itu ngga…, silahkan Om… J  JT         Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat.. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger .yahoo.com/ invite/ Akses email lebih cepat. Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis) Selalu bisa chat di profil jaringan, blog, atau situs web pribadi! Yahoo! memungkinkan Anda selalu bisa chat melalui Pingbox. Coba! http://id.messenger .yahoo.com/ pingbox/ - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links Apakah wajar artis ikut Pemilu? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers! Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. Yahoo! Mail Kini Lebih Cepat dan Lebih Bersih. Rasakan bedanya sekarang! Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on Facebook.
Re: [ob] Fw: prof JT, tolong terawangin Enrg donk
kmrn pak JT bilang masi nyusep di bawah 335..soal nya kemaren ane yang tanya ^^ On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 3:40 PM, JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com wrote: Kemaren ada yg tanya juga, masih nyusruk kayaknya, ntar malem dah ane liatin, skrng lagi gak didepan screen Powered by TLKM BullBerry® “ Good Trade Comes To Those Who Wait “ -- *From: * Mr Smith ytia...@gmail.com *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:07:12 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *[ob] Fw: prof JT, tolong terawangin Enrg donk - Original Message - *From:* Mr Smith oprek_sa...@yahoo.com.sg *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:58 PM *Subject:* prof JT, tolong terawangin Enrg donk
Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I
pistol ane macet kagak bisa dikokang --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, troyan troyan...@... wrote: Jadi marah juga nih ane... gw bantuin sikat dah... Hahahahaha --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Chase chase.vincent@ wrote: sikat komandan 100rb lot di 2850!!! --- On Wed, 10/21/09, artomoro9 artomoro9@ wrote: From: artomoro9 artomoro9@ Subject: RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 8:02 AM  tinggal selangkah lagi ijonya. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Peter Alimin milis...@live. com menulis: Dari: Peter Alimin milis...@live. com Judul: RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: OB obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 3:00 PM sip dah. yg penting fractal bukan? jangan sampe apes besoknya. To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com From: artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:55:49 +0800 Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I  ijoo dah. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, bad_boy aa.j...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: bad_boy aa.j...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM JENDRALpasukan berani mati siyaaappp... tunggu perintah komandan tapi peluru dah abis, pake petasan cabe rawit ajah yah --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, artomoro9 artomoro9@ . wrote: hehehe. kalo ane bilang DEAL ijo, ntar ente kaga dapat barang. diemin aja dulu. perhatikan terus. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andref_r@ menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andref_r@ Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:27 AM       Om arto kasih bumi ijo hari ini deal ga? From: artomoro9 artomoro9@ . To: ob obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:22:07 AM Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I  Ã                maaf. maksudnya gak dikasih di bawah garis itu. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:20 AM Maksudnya mau dibawa ke garis merah atau mau ikut beli di garis merah ? DEAL nya ga jelas -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:16:46 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [ob] B U M  I DEAL...!! regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Judul: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 10:52 AM àààà  Garis merah merupakan area nyopetââ¬Â¦.,àlet see om BD berani masuk daerah itu nggaââ¬Â¦,àsilahkan  Omââ¬Â¦Ã J  Ã JT  Ã  Ã Ã Ã Ã  Ã Ã Ã Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat.. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger .yahoo.com/ invite/       Akses email lebih cepat.  Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis)                               Selalu bisa chat di profil jaringan, blog, atau situs web pribadi! Yahoo! memungkinkan Anda selalu bisa chat melalui Pingbox. Coba! http://id.messenger .yahoo.com/ pingbox/ - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links Apakah wajar artis ikut Pemilu? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers!
Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I
I. Maksud hati memeluk gunung apa daya tangan tak sampai. Maksud hati membuat BUMI IJO apa daya kemampuan terbatas. Maksud hati menjual kepercayaan apa daya banyak yang tidak percaya pada BUMI. II. Maksud hati mencari Untung apa daya justru rugi yang didulang. Maksud hati stay-away dari BG stocks apa daya setiap hari saham-saham itu yang dibicarakan di BEI (OB milis). Maksud hati masuk ke sektor Riil apa daya peluang belum tercipta. Hehehesekedar menghibur diri dengan Prosa. (sudah cut-loss sebagian). Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. That everything changes is more hopeful than hopeless, because it means everyone can change for the better. -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:55:49 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I ijoo dah. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, bad_boy aa.j...@gmail.com menulis: Dari: bad_boy aa.j...@gmail.com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM JENDRALpasukan berani mati siyaaappp... tunggu perintah komandan tapi peluru dah abis, pake petasan cabe rawit ajah yah --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, artomoro9 artomo...@... wrote: hehehe. kalo ane bilang DEAL ijo, ntar ente kaga dapat barang. diemin aja dulu. perhatikan terus. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andre...@... menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andre...@... Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:27 AM Om arto kasih bumi ijo hari ini deal ga? From: artomoro9 artomo...@... To: ob obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:22:07 AM Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I  maaf. maksudnya gak dikasih di bawah garis itu. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:20 AM Maksudnya mau dibawa ke garis merah atau mau ikut beli di garis merah ? DEAL nya ga jelas -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:16:46 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [ob] B U M I DEAL...!! regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Judul: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 10:52 AM     Garis merah merupakan area nyopet…., let see om BD berani masuk daerah itu ngga…, silahkan Om… J  JT         Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat.. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ Akses email lebih cepat. Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis) Selalu bisa chat di profil jaringan, blog, atau situs web pribadi! Yahoo! memungkinkan Anda selalu bisa chat melalui Pingbox. Coba! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links quot;Coba Yahoo! Mail baru yang LEBIH CEPAT. Rasakan bedanya sekarang! http://id.mail.yahoo.comquot;
Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I
*Oh dear don't be so cynical to him, he did a good job. We [?] general Artomoro9.* * * - Artomoro never shorts, he just stares at the exchange boards and all orders changed to sell orders - Only Artomoro can give bid to buy AAPL at IDX on Sunday, and gets them - In Artomoro's point of view, Warren Buffett is a changcuters - Artomoro never really have to buy stocks, coz every morning he poops stocks. Plus Warrants I love U ART. 2009/10/21 Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com I. Maksud hati memeluk gunung apa daya tangan tak sampai. Maksud hati membuat BUMI IJO apa daya kemampuan terbatas. Maksud hati menjual kepercayaan apa daya banyak yang tidak percaya pada BUMI. II. Maksud hati mencari Untung apa daya justru rugi yang didulang. Maksud hati stay-away dari BG stocks apa daya setiap hari saham-saham itu yang dibicarakan di BEI (OB milis). Maksud hati masuk ke sektor Riil apa daya peluang belum tercipta. Hehehesekedar menghibur diri dengan Prosa. (sudah cut-loss sebagian). Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. That everything changes is more hopeful than hopeless, because it means everyone can change for the better. -- *From: * artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:55:49 +0800 (SGT) *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I ijoo dah. regards, A9 --- Pada *Rab, 21/10/09, bad_boy aa.j...@gmail.com* menulis: Dari: bad_boy aa.j...@gmail.com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM JENDRALpasukan berani mati siyaaappp... tunggu perintah komandan tapi peluru dah abis, pake petasan cabe rawit ajah yah --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com, artomoro9 artomo...@... wrote: hehehe. kalo ane bilang DEAL ijo, ntar ente kaga dapat barang. diemin aja dulu. perhatikan terus. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andre...@... menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andre...@... Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:27 AM Om arto kasih bumi ijo hari ini deal ga? From: artomoro9 artomo...@... To: ob obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:22:07 AM Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I  maaf. maksudnya gak dikasih di bawah garis itu. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:20 AM Maksudnya mau dibawa ke garis merah atau mau ikut beli di garis merah ? DEAL nya ga jelas -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:16:46 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [ob] B U M I DEAL...!! regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Judul: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 10:52 AM     Garis merah merupakan area nyopet…., let see om BD berani masuk daerah itu ngga…, silahkan Om… J  JT         Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat.. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ Akses email lebih cepat. Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis) Selalu bisa chat di profil jaringan, blog, atau situs web pribadi! Yahoo! memungkinkan Anda selalu bisa chat melalui Pingbox. Coba! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links -- Apakah wajar artis ikut Pemilu? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers! B0C.gif
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U work under him? Sent from my computer of course! -Original Message- From: It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:02:23 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I *Oh dear don't be so cynical to him, he did a good job. We [?] general Artomoro9.* * * - Artomoro never shorts, he just stares at the exchange boards and all orders changed to sell orders - Only Artomoro can give bid to buy AAPL at IDX on Sunday, and gets them - In Artomoro's point of view, Warren Buffett is a changcuters - Artomoro never really have to buy stocks, coz every morning he poops stocks. Plus Warrants I love U ART. 2009/10/21 Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com I. Maksud hati memeluk gunung apa daya tangan tak sampai. Maksud hati membuat BUMI IJO apa daya kemampuan terbatas. Maksud hati menjual kepercayaan apa daya banyak yang tidak percaya pada BUMI. II. Maksud hati mencari Untung apa daya justru rugi yang didulang. Maksud hati stay-away dari BG stocks apa daya setiap hari saham-saham itu yang dibicarakan di BEI (OB milis). Maksud hati masuk ke sektor Riil apa daya peluang belum tercipta. Hehehesekedar menghibur diri dengan Prosa. (sudah cut-loss sebagian). Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. That everything changes is more hopeful than hopeless, because it means everyone can change for the better. -- *From: * artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:55:49 +0800 (SGT) *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I ijoo dah. regards, A9 --- Pada *Rab, 21/10/09, bad_boy aa.j...@gmail.com* menulis: Dari: bad_boy aa.j...@gmail.com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM JENDRALpasukan berani mati siyaaappp... tunggu perintah komandan tapi peluru dah abis, pake petasan cabe rawit ajah yah --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com, artomoro9 artomo...@... wrote: hehehe. kalo ane bilang DEAL ijo, ntar ente kaga dapat barang. diemin aja dulu. perhatikan terus. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andre...@... menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andre...@... Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:27 AM Om arto kasih bumi ijo hari ini deal ga? From: artomoro9 artomo...@... To: ob obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:22:07 AM Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I  maaf. maksudnya gak dikasih di bawah garis itu. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:20 AM Maksudnya mau dibawa ke garis merah atau mau ikut beli di garis merah ? DEAL nya ga jelas -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:16:46 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [ob] B U M I DEAL...!! regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Judul: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 10:52 AM     Garis merah merupakan area nyopet…., let see om BD berani masuk daerah itu ngga…, silahkan Om… J  JT         Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat.. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ Akses email lebih cepat. Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis) Selalu bisa chat di profil jaringan, blog, atau situs web pribadi! Yahoo! memungkinkan Anda selalu bisa chat melalui Pingbox. Coba! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links -- Apakah wajar artis ikut Pemilu? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers! B0C.gif
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UNDER or UNDER ??? ^^ -Original Message- From: highwaysta...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:08:13 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I U work under him? Sent from my computer of course! -Original Message- From: It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:02:23 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I *Oh dear don't be so cynical to him, he did a good job. We [?] general Artomoro9.* * * - Artomoro never shorts, he just stares at the exchange boards and all orders changed to sell orders - Only Artomoro can give bid to buy AAPL at IDX on Sunday, and gets them - In Artomoro's point of view, Warren Buffett is a changcuters - Artomoro never really have to buy stocks, coz every morning he poops stocks. Plus Warrants I love U ART. 2009/10/21 Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com I. Maksud hati memeluk gunung apa daya tangan tak sampai. Maksud hati membuat BUMI IJO apa daya kemampuan terbatas. Maksud hati menjual kepercayaan apa daya banyak yang tidak percaya pada BUMI. II. Maksud hati mencari Untung apa daya justru rugi yang didulang. Maksud hati stay-away dari BG stocks apa daya setiap hari saham-saham itu yang dibicarakan di BEI (OB milis). Maksud hati masuk ke sektor Riil apa daya peluang belum tercipta. Hehehesekedar menghibur diri dengan Prosa. (sudah cut-loss sebagian). Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. That everything changes is more hopeful than hopeless, because it means everyone can change for the better. -- *From: * artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:55:49 +0800 (SGT) *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I ijoo dah. regards, A9 --- Pada *Rab, 21/10/09, bad_boy aa.j...@gmail.com* menulis: Dari: bad_boy aa.j...@gmail.com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM JENDRALpasukan berani mati siyaaappp... tunggu perintah komandan tapi peluru dah abis, pake petasan cabe rawit ajah yah --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com, artomoro9 artomo...@... wrote: hehehe. kalo ane bilang DEAL ijo, ntar ente kaga dapat barang. diemin aja dulu. perhatikan terus. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andre...@... menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andre...@... Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:27 AM Om arto kasih bumi ijo hari ini deal ga? From: artomoro9 artomo...@... To: ob obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:22:07 AM Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I  maaf. maksudnya gak dikasih di bawah garis itu. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:20 AM Maksudnya mau dibawa ke garis merah atau mau ikut beli di garis merah ? DEAL nya ga jelas -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:16:46 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [ob] B U M I DEAL...!! regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Judul: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 10:52 AM     Garis merah merupakan area nyopet…., let see om BD berani masuk daerah itu ngga…, silahkan Om… J  JT         Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat.. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ Akses email lebih cepat. Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis) Selalu bisa chat di profil jaringan, blog, atau situs web pribadi! Yahoo! memungkinkan Anda selalu bisa chat melalui Pingbox. Coba! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links -- Apakah wajar artis ikut Pemilu? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo!
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Masih ada hari esok Jend. Lanjutkan perjuangan msh banyak pasukan yang setia dengan komando Jend. Good Luck. Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:11:28 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I 1-2 lot adalah bentuk perjuangan. no problem. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andre...@yahoo.com menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andre...@yahoo.com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 3:04 PM Om saya bantu lg skrg pake 2 lot From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co..id To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 3:02:01 PM Subject: RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I tinggal selangkah lagi ijonya. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Peter Alimin milis...@live. com menulis: Dari: Peter Alimin milis...@live. com Judul: RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: OB obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 3:00 PM sip dah.. yg penting fractal bukan? jangan sampe apes besoknya. To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com From: artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:55:49 +0800 Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I ijoo dah. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, bad_boy aa.j...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: bad_boy aa.j...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM JENDRALpasukan berani mati siyaaappp... tunggu perintah komandan tapi peluru dah abis, pake petasan cabe rawit ajah yah --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, artomoro9 artomo...@.. . wrote: hehehe. kalo ane bilang DEAL ijo, ntar ente kaga dapat barang. diemin aja dulu. perhatikan terus. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andre...@... menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andre...@... Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:27 AM Om arto kasih bumi ijo hari ini deal ga? From: artomoro9 artomo...@.. . To: ob obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:22:07 AM Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I  maaf. maksudnya gak dikasih di bawah garis itu. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:20 AM Maksudnya mau dibawa ke garis merah atau mau ikut beli di garis merah ? DEAL nya ga jelas -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:16:46 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [ob] B U M I DEAL...!! regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Judul: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 10:52 AM     Garis merah merupakan area nyopet…., let see om BD berani masuk daerah itu ngga…, silahkan Om… J  JT         Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat.. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ Akses email lebih cepat. Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis) Selalu bisa chat di profil jaringan, blog, atau situs web pribadi! Yahoo! memungkinkan Anda selalu bisa chat melalui Pingbox. Coba! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/ - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links Apakah wajar artis ikut Pemilu? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers! Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. Yahoo! Mail Kini Lebih Cepat dan Lebih Bersih. Rasakan bedanya sekarang! Lebih aman saat online. Upgrade ke Internet Explorer 8 baru dan lebih cepat yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! agar Anda merasa lebih aman. Gratis.
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Sometimes under (MOT) , sometimes over (WOT) . Sometimes behind , sometimes sideways Sometimes full holes . Wakakakakaka -Original Message- From: highwaysta...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:08:13 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I U work under him? Sent from my computer of course! -Original Message- From: It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:02:23 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I *Oh dear don't be so cynical to him, he did a good job. We [?] general Artomoro9.* * * - Artomoro never shorts, he just stares at the exchange boards and all orders changed to sell orders - Only Artomoro can give bid to buy AAPL at IDX on Sunday, and gets them - In Artomoro's point of view, Warren Buffett is a changcuters - Artomoro never really have to buy stocks, coz every morning he poops stocks. Plus Warrants I love U ART. 2009/10/21 Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com I. Maksud hati memeluk gunung apa daya tangan tak sampai. Maksud hati membuat BUMI IJO apa daya kemampuan terbatas. Maksud hati menjual kepercayaan apa daya banyak yang tidak percaya pada BUMI. II. Maksud hati mencari Untung apa daya justru rugi yang didulang. Maksud hati stay-away dari BG stocks apa daya setiap hari saham-saham itu yang dibicarakan di BEI (OB milis). Maksud hati masuk ke sektor Riil apa daya peluang belum tercipta. Hehehesekedar menghibur diri dengan Prosa. (sudah cut-loss sebagian). Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. That everything changes is more hopeful than hopeless, because it means everyone can change for the better. -- *From: * artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:55:49 +0800 (SGT) *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I ijoo dah. regards, A9 --- Pada *Rab, 21/10/09, bad_boy aa.j...@gmail.com* menulis: Dari: bad_boy aa.j...@gmail.com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM JENDRALpasukan berani mati siyaaappp... tunggu perintah komandan tapi peluru dah abis, pake petasan cabe rawit ajah yah --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com, artomoro9 artomo...@... wrote: hehehe. kalo ane bilang DEAL ijo, ntar ente kaga dapat barang. diemin aja dulu. perhatikan terus. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andre...@... menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andre...@... Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:27 AM Om arto kasih bumi ijo hari ini deal ga? From: artomoro9 artomo...@... To: ob obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:22:07 AM Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I  maaf. maksudnya gak dikasih di bawah garis itu. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:20 AM Maksudnya mau dibawa ke garis merah atau mau ikut beli di garis merah ? DEAL nya ga jelas -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:16:46 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [ob] B U M I DEAL...!! regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Judul: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 10:52 AM     Garis merah merupakan area nyopet…., let see om BD berani masuk daerah itu ngga…, silahkan Om… J  JT         Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat.. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ Akses email lebih cepat. Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis) Selalu bisa chat di profil jaringan, blog, atau situs web pribadi! Yahoo! memungkinkan Anda selalu bisa chat melalui Pingbox. Coba! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
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Iya , aku juga support jenderal dgn tidak menjual bumi -Original Message- From: inpestorpembela...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:11:03 To: artomoro9artomo...@yahoo.co.id; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Masih ada hari esok Jend. Lanjutkan perjuangan msh banyak pasukan yang setia dengan komando Jend. Good Luck. Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:11:28 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I 1-2 lot adalah bentuk perjuangan. no problem. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andre...@yahoo.com menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andre...@yahoo.com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 3:04 PM Om saya bantu lg skrg pake 2 lot From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co..id To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 3:02:01 PM Subject: RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I tinggal selangkah lagi ijonya. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Peter Alimin milis...@live. com menulis: Dari: Peter Alimin milis...@live. com Judul: RE: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: OB obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 3:00 PM sip dah.. yg penting fractal bukan? jangan sampe apes besoknya. To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com From: artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:55:49 +0800 Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I ijoo dah. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, bad_boy aa.j...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: bad_boy aa.j...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM JENDRALpasukan berani mati siyaaappp... tunggu perintah komandan tapi peluru dah abis, pake petasan cabe rawit ajah yah --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, artomoro9 artomo...@.. . wrote: hehehe. kalo ane bilang DEAL ijo, ntar ente kaga dapat barang. diemin aja dulu. perhatikan terus. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andre...@... menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andre...@... Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:27 AM Om arto kasih bumi ijo hari ini deal ga? From: artomoro9 artomo...@.. . To: ob obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:22:07 AM Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I  maaf. maksudnya gak dikasih di bawah garis itu. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:20 AM Maksudnya mau dibawa ke garis merah atau mau ikut beli di garis merah ? DEAL nya ga jelas -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:16:46 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [ob] B U M I DEAL...!! regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Judul: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 10:52 AM     Garis merah merupakan area nyopet…., let see om BD berani masuk daerah itu ngga…, silahkan Om… J  JT         Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat.. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ Akses email lebih cepat. Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis) Selalu bisa chat di profil jaringan, blog, atau situs web pribadi! Yahoo! memungkinkan Anda selalu bisa chat melalui Pingbox. Coba! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/ - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links Apakah wajar artis ikut Pemilu? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers! Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. Yahoo! Mail Kini Lebih Cepat dan Lebih
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Pak Rei, Bukankah EL n Art has a special relationship ??? Ini gosip yg saya dengar.. hehehehe. tap..tap..tap... RUN Rgds, V e r a --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, highwaysta...@... wrote: U work under him? Sent from my computer of course! -Original Message- From: It's Elaine! elainesu...@... Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:02:23 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I *Oh dear don't be so cynical to him, he did a good job. We [?] general Artomoro9.* * * - Artomoro never shorts, he just stares at the exchange boards and all orders changed to sell orders - Only Artomoro can give bid to buy AAPL at IDX on Sunday, and gets them - In Artomoro's point of view, Warren Buffett is a changcuters - Artomoro never really have to buy stocks, coz every morning he poops stocks. Plus Warrants I love U ART. 2009/10/21 Jacob Oen oenja...@... I. Maksud hati memeluk gunung apa daya tangan tak sampai. Maksud hati membuat BUMI IJO apa daya kemampuan terbatas. Maksud hati menjual kepercayaan apa daya banyak yang tidak percaya pada BUMI. II. Maksud hati mencari Untung apa daya justru rugi yang didulang. Maksud hati stay-away dari BG stocks apa daya setiap hari saham-saham itu yang dibicarakan di BEI (OB milis). Maksud hati masuk ke sektor Riil apa daya peluang belum tercipta. Hehehesekedar menghibur diri dengan Prosa. (sudah cut-loss sebagian). Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. That everything changes is more hopeful than hopeless, because it means everyone can change for the better. -- *From: * artomoro9 artomo...@... *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:55:49 +0800 (SGT) *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I ijoo dah. regards, A9 --- Pada *Rab, 21/10/09, bad_boy aa.j...@...* menulis: Dari: bad_boy aa.j...@... Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM JENDRALpasukan berani mati siyaaappp... tunggu perintah komandan tapi peluru dah abis, pake petasan cabe rawit ajah yah --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com, artomoro9 artomoro9@ wrote: hehehe. kalo ane bilang DEAL ijo, ntar ente kaga dapat barang. diemin aja dulu. perhatikan terus. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andref_r@ menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andref_r@ Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:27 AM Om arto kasih bumi ijo hari ini deal ga? From: artomoro9 artomoro9@ To: ob obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:22:07 AM Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I  maaf. maksudnya gak dikasih di bawah garis itu. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:20 AM Maksudnya mau dibawa ke garis merah atau mau ikut beli di garis merah ? DEAL nya ga jelas -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:16:46 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [ob] B U M I DEAL...!! regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Judul: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 10:52 AM     Garis merah merupakan area nyopetâ¦., let see om BD berani masuk daerah itu nggaâ¦, silahkan Omâ¦Â J  JT         Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat.. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ Akses email lebih cepat. Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis) Selalu bisa chat di profil jaringan, blog, atau situs web pribadi! Yahoo! memungkinkan Anda selalu bisa chat melalui Pingbox. Coba! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/
