Re: [obrolan-bandar] The hunter went for the bull...in the end ...they is being attacked by the bear . Help them.

2007-10-24 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
A FUNDAMENTAL idea in finance is the relationship between RISK and
RETURN. 
The greater the amount of risk that an investor is willing to
take on, the greater the potential return. 
The reason for this is that
investors need to be compensated for taking on additional risk.



For the time being,... 

people rely on their FEAR and HESITATION to keep them out of the most 
profoundly unknown CIRCUMSTANCES.

TRUE FEAR is a gift. It is a survival signal that sounds
only in the presence of danger. Yet unwarranted fear has assumed a
power over us that it holds over no other creature on Earth. It need
not be this way.



RISK could be said to be the way we collectively measure and share
this true fear..
- a fusion of rational doubt,
 - irrational fear, and 

- a set
of unquantified biases 

from our own experience.



The field of behavioral finance
focuses on 

-human risk-aversion, 

-asymmetric regret, and 

-other ways 

that
human financial behavior varies from what analysts call rational. 



Risk in that case is the degree of uncertanty associated with a return on an 
asset.



Recognizing and respecting the irrational influences on human
decision making may do much to reduce disasters caused by naive risk
assessments that pretend to rationality but in fact merely fuse many
shared biases together.

GBU

Best Regards,

LCY

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] The hunter went for the bull...in the end ...they is being attacked by the bear . Help them.

2007-10-24 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
Nearly everyone in Singapore speaks more than one language, with many people 
  speaking three or four. Most children grow up bilingual from infancy and 
learn 
  more languages as they grow up. Naturally the presence of other languages 
(especially 
  various varieties of Malay and of Chinese) has influenced the English of 
Singapore. 
  The influence is especially apparent in a kind of English that is used 
informally, 
  which is popularly called Singlish. Singlish is a badge of identity 
  for many Singaporeans


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2007-10-23 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw





  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] TO EMBAH_ EUROPE DOWN

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
Embah

Europe_   down

Europe is an indication for DJ tonight

I predict DJ will be down tonight

and tomorrow, JCI will be down again

So it's dangerous for retail trader/margin trader to keep their portfolio.

How about you ?

GBU

Best regards.


LCY



- Original Message 
From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 22 October 2007 2:11:10
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG on Monday - My feeling...









  



pak Boyz,



Embah masuk perbankan dilevel 2460 (-100)...



Index future SP dan NASDAQ agak rebound dikit meskipun minus

Coba liat di: http://money. cnn.com/data/ premarket/



Gambling DJI naik seperti kata pak Boyz...hehehe. ..



--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:



 feeling saya,

 senin malam DJI rebound sedikit.

 

 alasan:

 penurunan kemarin lebih banyak faktor /Psikologis black monday-/nya,

 walaupun ada faktor fundamental lainnya.

 Jum'at kemarin DJI turun dan close di sekitar 61,8% FR,

 /biasanya/, pada level itu ada sedikit perlawanan .

 

 once again, ini hanya feeling saya aja.

 salah/bener atau lebih/kurang- nya mohon maaf terlebih dahulu..

 

 kalo gitu, baiknya kita lihat aja Dow Jones future-nya besok.

 

 salam,

 

 jsx_consultant wrote:

  Pak Boyz,

 

  Seperti embah bilang kemarin kuncinya bukan di IHSG tapi

  pada index Dowjones

 

  Semua orang bilang IHSG bakalan TURUN. Tapi mau belanja juga

  BINGUNG, karena nasib DJI Senin malem ENGGA JELAS ?.

 

  - Kalo kita belanja besok di BEJ, lalu DJI senin malam naik 

berarti 

kita bakalan untung di BEJ.

  - Tapi kalo DJI turun lagi berarti kita rugi.

 

  Jadi turunnya IHSG besok TIDAK RELEVAN dengan untung/rugi,

  yg RELEVAN adalah apakah DJI hari senin malam NAIK atawa TURUN.

 

  Jadi pak Boyz bikin analisa indexnya bukan buat IHSG tapi

  buat DJI. 

 

  Kalo ada yg bisa kasih KEPASTIAN bahwa DJI akan naik

  hari Senin malam, IHSG engga turunpun embah BERANI BELANJA.

 

 

 








  







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Re: [obrolan-bandar] SELL WHEN YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw


- Original Message 
From: Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2007 12:12:26
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Intermezzo.. about trading styles...









  



Embah, Bang IAN, numpang posting,... sekalian menjawab semua japri 
yang masuk... cape kalo bales satu2. :)

Bung 

DE, kapan/timing buat masuk lagi?
Untuk SAYA, saya baru masuk kalau market sudah tidak terlalu volatile 
(=sideways) dan membentuk ASCENDING TRIANGLE. Market kita long term tetap 
BULLISH. Short term mungkin bearish. Sabar aja, jgn panik.
Rasanya gak ada masalah dengan ekonomi Indonesia. Hanya profit taking aja.

Hint: strategi long jangan dicampur sama swing, pasti KACAU. Gak percaya? Coba 
aja..hehe.. 
 Make up your mind, what is your trading style?.

Apakah anda sukanya seperti pak Busur yang Buy High Sell Higher?
Atau seperti Embah dengan Bandarmologinya?

Atau seperti Wan Al dengan analisa FAnya?
Atau seperti pak Sbudiana dengan EGP nya?
Atau seperti pak JA yang kontrarian?
Atau seperti Bang IAN dengan gaya buayanya? -- ini perlu diklarifikasi lagi 
nih... :)


Everyone have their own style.

Setiap strategi memiliki ciri khas sendiri, dan 
rekomendasi tidak bisa di GENERALISIR untuk semua trading style. Percaya deh, 
rekomendasi bisa BEDA untuk satu style dengan style yang lain. Selama anda 
belum punya trading style, anda akan terombang-ambing sama rekomendasi, rumor, 
hasutan, dsb.



Jadi bukannya saya gak mau kasih rekomendasi, tapi nanti takutnya jadi 
misleading karena saya gak tahu seperti apa trading style anda. Saya gak punya 
data target price. Pokoknya beli kalau mau naik, jual kalau mau turun. As 
simple as that. Pakai TA klasik rasanya sudah cukup.


Saran: sebaiknya jangan meniru gaya orang lain. Temukan gaya anda sendiri. 
Trading seperti lagi nyari jodoh. Cocok-cocokan. Mungkin bisa berganti 2-3 
kali, tapi yang penting JANGAN SELINGKUH. 


Strategi saya pribadi:
PSYCHOSWINGESTOR.  -- tau deh apa artinya..hehe. .

Kenapa bukan daytrading? Krn saya gak sempat mantau market per menit.


Regards,
DE

Masih cuti tapi tetap suka mampir... thanks to my friend in Canada.





  







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Re: [obrolan-bandar] The history of OCtober ...crash

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
A stock market crash is a sudden dramatic decline of stock prices across a 
significant cross-section of a stock market. Crashes are driven by panic as 
much as by underlying economic factors. They often follow speculative stock 
market bubbles.

Stock market crashes are social phenomena where external economic events 
combine with crowd behaviour and psychology in a positive feedback
loop where selling by some market participants drives more market
participants to sell. Generally speaking, crashes usually occur under
the following conditions: a prolonged period of rising stock prices and
excessive economic optimism, a market where P/E ratios exceed long-term 
averages, and extensive use of margin debt and leverage by market participants.

There is no numerically-specific definition of a crash but the term
commonly applies to steep double-digit percentage losses in a stock market 
index over a period of several days. Crashes are often distinguished from bear 
markets
by panic selling and abrupt, dramatic price declines. Bear markets are
periods of declining stock market prices that are measured in months or
years. While crashes are often associated with bear markets, they do
not necessarily go hand in hand. The crash of 1987 for example did not
lead to a bear market. Likewise, the Japanese Nikkei bear market of the 1990s 
occurred over several years without any notable crashes.

28 October 1997
U.S. stock markets were widely expected to open lower for October 28
due to the Asian markets falling even more than they did on the 27th.
Hong Kong's Hang Seng Index declined a staggering 14%. The Nikkei fell
4.26%. The U.S. stock markets initially continued their drop from the
27th, but abruptly ended, and began to climb. The Dow was down as much
as 186 points by 10:06 A.M., and soon thereafter a rally started. By
10:20 A.M. The Dow was down only 25 points. Five minutes later, the Dow
roared back into positive territory and was up 50 points. Nine minutes
later at 10:34 A.M., the Dow rallied to a triple-digit advance up
137.27 points. Stock prices continued to soar in choppy trading
throughout the rest of the day. At the close of trading at 4:00 P.M.,
the Dow finished with a record 337.17 point gain (recovering 61% of the
previous day's loss) to close at 7,498.32. The market restored $384
billion of the $663 billion in market capitalization lost the previous
day. One billion shares were traded on the New York Stock Exchange for the 
first time ever, with a volume of 1.21 billion shares. In 2006
terms, this amount is considered very light. The NASDAQ Composite also
made a record gain on record volume, gaining 67.93 to 1,603.02. The
NASDAQ also saw its first-ever one-billion share day with 1.23 billion
shares changing hands.


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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SENIN, INVISIBLE HAND JAGA ANTM DI BURSA LAGI MERAH

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
Hi...hi...hi..hi..hi..hi..

- Original Message 
From: anto8384 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2007 9:50:43
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SENIN, INVISIBLE HAND JAGA ANTM DI BURSA LAGI 
MERAH









  



Naiknaik. ...

ke lima ribu

tinggitinggi. ...

sekali



kiri kanan...

kulihat.

hijau



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] The history of OCtober ...crash

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
It is a combination : 
OIL PRICE, 
US ECONOMY_CRISIS,
BUBBLE?
SPECULATIVE TRADING (NOT INVESTMENT)
POLITIC  CAPITAL
GREEDY
ETC

I still keep all of my portfolio.
I give an information for retail trader and margin trader only.

October in this year is a very dangerous time to make a trading.

Today is green, because yesterday.. tumble

But,  What do you think if DJ will be RED tonight ?

GBU 

best regards,

LCY


- Original Message 
From: alfian bachtiar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2007 10:24:09
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] The history of OCtober ...crash









  




apakah bulan oktober selalu berpotensi crash Pak LCY ?

APakah saham kita memang sudah bublle ?

Memang kelihatannya kita ini tidak realistis , saham naiknya kencang seperti 
ini disuruh beli masih mau saja.

 

Trus kapan pak LCY kita harus beli ?

 



 

- Pesan Asli 
Dari: Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.sg
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Terkirim: Selasa, 23 Oktober, 2007 9:57:29
Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] The history of OCtober ...crash






A stock market crash is a sudden dramatic decline of stock prices across a 
significant cross-section of a stock market. Crashes are driven by panic as 
much as by underlying economic factors. They often follow speculative stock 
market bubbles.

Stock market crashes are social phenomena where external economic events 
combine with crowd behaviour and psychology in a positive feedback loop where 
selling by some market participants drives more market participants to sell. 
Generally speaking, crashes usually occur under the following conditions: a 
prolonged period of rising stock prices and excessive economic optimism, a 
market where P/E ratios exceed long-term averages, and extensive use
 of margin debt and leverage by market participants.

There is no numerically- specific definition of a crash but the term commonly 
applies to steep double-digit percentage losses in a stock market index over a 
period of several days. Crashes are often distinguished from bear markets by 
panic selling and abrupt, dramatic price declines. Bear markets are periods of 
declining stock market prices that are measured in months or years. While 
crashes are often associated with bear markets, they do not necessarily go hand 
in hand. The crash of 1987 for example did not lead to a bear market. Likewise, 
the Japanese Nikkei bear market of the 1990s occurred over several years 
without any notable
 crashes.

28 October 1997
U.S. stock markets were widely expected to open lower for October 28 due to the 
Asian markets falling even more than they did on the 27th. Hong Kong's Hang 
Seng Index declined a staggering 14%. The Nikkei fell 4.26%. The U.S. stock 
markets initially continued their drop from the 27th, but abruptly ended, and 
began to climb. The Dow was down as much as 186 points by 10:06 A.M., and soon 
thereafter a rally started. By 10:20 A.M. The Dow was down only 25 points. Five 
minutes later, the Dow roared back into positive territory and was up 50 
points. Nine minutes later at 10:34 A.M., the Dow rallied to a triple-digit 
advance up 137.27 points. Stock prices continued to soar in choppy trading 
throughout the rest of the day. At the close of trading at 4:00 P.M., the Dow 
finished with a record 337.17 point gain (recovering 61% of the previous day's 
loss) to close at 7,498.32. The market restored $384 billion of the $663 billion
 in market capitalization lost the previous day. One billion shares were traded 
on the New York Stock Exchange for the first time ever, with a volume of 1.21 
billion shares. In 2006 terms, this amount is considered very light. The NASDAQ 
Composite also made a record gain on record volume, gaining 67.93 to 1,603.02. 
The NASDAQ also saw its first-ever one-billion share day with 1.23 billion 
shares changing hands.


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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Ssssssssssssssssssssssssssst Blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

2007-10-21 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw


- Original Message 
From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 20 October 2007 7:07:52
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Portfolio siBOZZ...  Re: LCY : TARGET PRICE I









  



- Tidak ada rumus bahwa saham yg dipegang siBozz tidak akan

  turun atau turunnya sedikit saat Crash.

- Tapi jika turun dan rebound maka saham siBOZZ biasanya

  rebound sangat cepat dan susah kekejar untuk Buyback.



Jadi kuncinya ialah IHSG, dan ini sangat tergantung dari

nasib index Dowjones:

- Jika DJI tidak turun lagi atau tetap maka ihsg akan rebound

  karena IHSG sangat sehat dan karena portfolio siBOZZ lagi BANYAK.

- Jika DJI turun lebih dalam lagi, maka ihsg menjadi GELAP !!!



Sepertinya, itulah alasan kenapa pak DE mau istirahat dulu, kenapa

musti pusing pusing ngurusin index yg engga condusive, mending

relax dan ngurusin anjingnya... . betul kan pak DE...hehehe. ..



Tapi embah engga bisa istirahat karena tetap musti ngurusin 

warung OB. Sama ama si BOZZ yang lagi SIBUK ngatur scenario

minggu depan karena punya portfolio segunung disaham 

saham yg embah sebut.



Kita doain aja agar si BOZZ bisa berhasil menangani EFEK DARI

kemelut index Dowjones.



--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Rei highwaystar91@ ... wrote:



 Jadi maksudnya berpegang erat pada saham2 yg disebut Mr. Lee bakal 

lebih, katakanlah,  aman krn BOZZ nggak mungkin merusak periuk nasi 

mereka sendiri?..

   Makasih Mbah, as always...



   Salam,

   

 

 jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... wrote:

   Karena Dowjones CRASH semalem, embah TERPAKSA ngeluarin 

komposisi

 portfolio si BOZZ. Mudah mudahan si BOZZ ENGGA marah karena 

 sebenarnya komposisi tsb UDAH ditulis ama Mr Chinmy Lee pada

 postingnya BARUSAN (liat posting dibawah).

 

 Embah kutip postingan mr Chinmy lee:

  TP (12 months)

 

  PTBA -- 11k

  TINS -- 20k

  BUMI -- 5.1k

  ANTM -- 5k

  PGAS -- 16k

  BMRI -- 4.2k

 

 Sebelumnya BIAR ENGGA HEBOH lagi seperti case Elaine (saudagar

 kentang), Mr Lee juga BARU join milis OB menjelang Lebaran.

 Apakah Mr Lee ini adalah si Elaine yg baru ganti kelamin, atau

 Mr Lee ini bener2 orang baru dimilis TAPI dengan TULUS mau

 membantu menghadapi TURUNNYA INDEX hari Senin. Embah ENGGA

 PEDULI soal INI, yg penting dia KASIH INFORMASI YG BENAR 

 

 So, WELCOME Mr Chinmy Lee... Mudah mudahan anda menjadi

 SUMBER INFORMASI yg BERGUNA bagi semua member dimilis OB

 

 Balik ke portfolio si BOZZ:

 

 Dari analisa embah mulai tgl 26/9 (saat dimulainya TACTICAL

 MOVE pake ISAT) sampai kemarin, embah dapatkan portfolio

 si BOZZ dalam JUMLAH BESAR pada saham saham sbb:

 

 - PGAS

 - ANTM

 - TINS

 - PTBA

 - BNBR

 - MEDC

 - UNSP

 - BMRI

 

 Analisa embah menggunakan periode awal 26/9, jadi ini sebenarnya

 bukan 100% sama dengan portfolio TAPI merupakan saham yg dibeli

 si BOZZ pada periode tsb.

 

 Hasil analisa embah berbeda DIKIT dengan info Mr Lee TAPI

 LEBIH BANYAK samanya. Bedanya pada saham saham sbb:

 

 - BUMI, disini Mr Lee benar karena portfolio siBOZZ banyak

 sekali diBUMI, tapi pada periode analisa terjadi SELL

 jadi tidak nampak pada daftar punya embah.

 - BNBR

 - MEDC

 - UNSP

 

 Pada saat index turun kemarin, saham saham tsb tidak mengalami

 distribusi (ADA YG JAGAIN). Tapi ingat: SAFE INVESTING karena

 KITA TIDAK TAHU BERAPA BESAR PENURUNAN IHSG yg akan terjadi

 akibat CRASHnya index dowjones. 

 

 Mudah mudahan siBOZZ engga marah, kalo mau marah, marah aja ama

 mr Lee yg nulis DULUAN... Just kidding mr Lee...

 

 ...

 

 Embah

 

 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Chinmy Lee chinmy5@  

 wrote:

 

  Hi Mr. LCY.

  

  I'm relative new in this market.

  But to my understanding, high oil price should drive up the 

 energy and mining sector.

  As they should find cheaper source of energy to subtitute oil, so 

 coal price should hike...?

  

  According to the information I got:

  

  TP (12 months)

  PTBA -- 11k

  TINS -- 20k

  BUMI -- 5.1k

  ANTM -- 5k

  PGAS -- 16k

  BMRI -- 4.2k

  

  If I got them wrong, please correct me.

  Thanks

  

  Lee Cwan Yeuw leecwan@ wrote:

  

   ANTM = 2750

   PTBA = 6700

   BUMI = 3500

   MEDC = 4250

   ENRG = 1000

   BLTA = 1800

   ADHI = 1300

   TINS = 13250

   INCO= 64000

   PGAS = 11.000

   INTP = 6250

   ISAT = 7750

   BMRI = 3250

   BBCA= 6000

   ASII = 18.000

   AALI= 16.000

   BDMN= 7750

  

  

  SEE THE MARKET

  SEE THE OIL PRICE

  SEE THE CHINA  INDIA

  SEE THE DOW 

  

  YOU MUST KNOW

  I DON'T LIKE TO SEE ..

  POLITICIAN TAKE MONEY FROM CAPITAL MARKET

  AND THE RETAIL GET LOSS..

  AFTER THEY SELL OFF THEIR HOT MONEY

  

  THIS IS NOT A REAL MARKET

  

  

  GBU

  

  BEST REGARDS

  

  

  LCY 

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] TODAY is MONDAY.

2007-10-21 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
BLACK MONDAY at DJ is TONIGHT?

Sell .if you have an opportunity to sell.


 

- Original Message 
From: ALX™ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 22 October 2007 9:38:32
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG minus 3 digit - Mau?

09:05 WIB
Silahkan dipilih-pilih kalau berani...???!!!

Salam
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] BLACK MONDAY

2007-10-21 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
In financial markets, Black Monday is the name given to Monday, October 19, 
1987, when the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) dropped by 508 points to 
1739 (22.6%),[1] and on which similar enormous drops occurred across the world. 



By the end of October, stock markets in 

Hong Kong had fallen 45.8%,
 Australia 41.8%, 

Spain 31%, 

the United Kingdom 26.4%, 

the United States 22.68%, and 

Canada 22.5%. 



(The terms Black Monday and Black Tuesday are also applied to October 28 and 
29, 1929, which occurred after Black Thursday on October 24, which started the 
Stock Market Crash of 1929.)

The Black Monday decline was the largest one-day percentage decline in stock 
market history. Other large declines have occurred after periods of market 
closure, such as Saturday, December 12, 1914, when the DJIA fell 24.39%, ending 
the four month closure due to the outbreak of the First World War, and Monday, 
September 17, 2001, the first day after which the market was open following the 
September 11, 2001 attacks.

A degree of mystery is associated with the 1987 crash, and it has been labeled 
as a black swan event.[2] Important assumptions concerning human rationality, 
the efficient market hypothesis, and economic equilibrium
were brought into question by the event. Debate as to the cause of the
crash still continues many years after the event, with no firm
conclusions reached.

In the wake of the crash, markets around the world were put on
restricted trading primarily because sorting out the orders that had
come in was beyond the computer technology of the time. This also gave
the Federal Reserve and other central banks time to pump liquidity into the 
system to prevent a further downdraft.

- Original Message 
From: Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 22 October 2007 11:57:38
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Is the end of the BULISH trand???









  



Bukannya pak Oentoeng kan selalu sdh tahu agenda BOZZ ke depan pt 
yg 

dulu2?

Gimana dong pak? Trims!



--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, oentoeng_qq 

oentoeng_qq@ ... wrote:



 Memang SAAT BREAKOUT 2400 kemudian bicara WELCOME 3000, secara 

umum 

 itu BIASA

 Tapi dalam kondisi TURUN BEGINI (yg ada kemungkinan) hingga AKHIR 

 BULAN, tetap ada yg bilang WELCOME 3000...STILL NEXT TARGETitu 

 LUAR BIASA.

 

 Yang jelas kondisi begini yg DOMINAN membantu adalah INFORMATION!

 Kemudian baru FA yg akan membantu SELECTIVE BUYING, dan TA yg akan 

 membantu TIMING.

 

 Rgrds

 

 

 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Andrew wijaya 

 stationandrew@  wrote:

 

  Akankah ini akhir dari trand bullish market selama 5 tahun 

terakhir 

 ini???

  Caterpilar adalah perusahaan tua, mereka lebih pengalaman dari 

semua 

 pemain

  yg ada di BEJ, saya yakin itu. Tapi ngak tau yah, mungkin saja 

 mereka benar,

  dan mungkin saja mereka salah. Tapi kayaknya sih lebih banyak 

 benarnya. Kalo

  Caterpilar aja sudah pesimis gimana lainnya???

  

  Smoga aja hari-2 indah terus bersama kita.

 








  







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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SENIN, INVISIBLE HAND JAGA ANTM DI BURSA LAGI MERAH

2007-10-21 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
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Sent: Monday, 22 October 2007 5:45:32
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SENIN, INVISIBLE HAND JAGA ANTM DI BURSA LAGI 
MERAH









  



--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Saham Multikartu 

unto.tjahjono@ ... wrote:

 target 5000 akan tercapai di akhir 2007. pernah di 3575 tgl

  18-oktober-2007. bandar butuh waktu dan strategi utk mencapai

  target 5000. disini kesabaran anda diuji oleh bandar.

  bandar butuh waktu juga mencapai target 5000 dan tentu investor

  butuh waktu utk menikmati target 5000 ini.

  bandar antm pakai sistem win win solution dgn investor, agar

  antm masih terus diburu oleh investor. bandar tidak akan 

  pernah membunuh investor.



 Klo TP 5000, laku nggak ya 

 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] LCY : TARGET PRICE I

2007-10-18 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw


 ANTM = 2750

 PTBA = 6700

 BUMI = 3500

 MEDC = 4250

 ENRG = 1000

 BLTA = 1800

 ADHI =  1300

 TINS = 13250

 INCO= 64000

 PGAS = 11.000

 INTP = 6250

 ISAT = 7750

 BMRI = 3250

 BBCA= 6000

 ASII = 18.000

 AALI= 16.000

 BDMN= 7750



SEE THE MARKET
SEE THE OIL PRICE
SEE THE CHINA  INDIA
SEE THE DOW 

YOU MUST KNOW
I DON'T LIKE TO SEE ..
POLITICIAN TAKE MONEY FROM CAPITAL MARKET
AND THE RETAIL  GET LOSS..
AFTER THEY SELL OFF THEIR  HOT MONEY

THIS IS NOT A REAL MARKET


GBU

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Re: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] Thx, MR LCY

2007-10-18 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
GBU,

SEE YOU AT @$)) = JCI

- Original Message 
From: Mo_Cuan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 19 October 2007 8:10:29
Subject: Re: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] Thx,  MR LCY









  



Mr. LCY luar biasa.

postingnya simple tapi banyak akuratnya.

sayang time span-nya kurang jelas :)

kadang bisa pendek banget kadang bisa panjang dikit.

Buat Pak LCY 4 thumbs up deh!

tambahan buat grup Bakrie, saya liat mau konsolidasi

bentar terus terbang...apa bener??? ?

atau jangan-2 pengennya jadi gerbong bearish? hehehe



+++ yang mo cuan ikut LCY, boleh dong +++



--- bobby gosal bobby_gosal@ yahoo.co. id wrote:



 trimakasih untuk postingannya, medc, blta, antm jual

 di sesi 1, ambil nafas dulu spt kata pak DE, keep

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Antara Mining, USD dan INFLOW

2007-10-18 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
YOU MUST KNOW

I DON'T LIKE 
THE POLITICIAN TAKE MONEY FROM CAPITAL MARKET

THE RETAIL INVESTOR WILL GET LOSS
WHEN THEY SELL OFF THEIR PORTFOLIO

SO YOU CAN KNOW 
FROM WHERE THE FUND COME

GBU

BEST REGARDS

LCY


- Original Message 
From: Aria Bela Nusa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 18 October 2007 2:08:58
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Antara Mining, USD dan INFLOW









  












Mr.Lee,
 

  
 

In my records that I’ve up-dated
everyday – I concluded there’s a lot of MONEY/FUNDS INFLOWS comings
– but I don’t know exactly from where they are coming [caused it
doesn’t matter to me]
 

  
 

Happy chuan,
 

  
 

Aria
 

  
 










From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
com ] On Behalf Of Lee Cwan Yeuw

Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007
12:56 PM

To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar]
Antara Mining, USD dan INFLOW
 




  
 











Man Emir ? 



No Emir go to Indonesia ..bring
money



Eminem go to Indonesia 
...take money 




 



- Original Message


From: James Arifin james.arifin@ gmail.com

To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thursday, 18 October 2007 12:35:36

Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Antara Mining, USD dan INFLOW
 



most of
the market is very regulated except Asian market. Foreigners

are limited to invest in Shanghai Stock market. HSI sudah ketinggian

sedangkan Indonesia market
lebih open dibanding Malaysia 
ataupun

 Thailand 
sehingga duit seabreq2 hasil jualan minyak para EMIR perlu

tempat untuk investasi yah jadilah Indonesia dijadikan bulan2an

investor asing karena semua barang di Indonesia masih kemurahan.



On 10/18/07, Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@
gmail.com wrote:

















 I see. Thanks for the explanation. Well, you're the expert on this. I knew

 that you would reply. :) I agree with the curse thing, it
happens in

 Africa (saw it on National Geographic),
but I guess It wouldn't be that bad

 in here.



 Btw, how about other resources, like CPO and other commodities? And why
all

 those crazy foreign investors were buying everything lately.. is something

 to think about. Even my fellow friends are quite surprised with them.
Crazy

 yankees.



 Regards,

 DE



 -Original Message-

 From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups.
com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@
yahoogroups. com]

 On Behalf Of James Arifin

 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 12:07 PM

 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups.
com

 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Antara Mining, USD dan INFLOW



 Yang benar Indonesia 
memiliki reserve natural gas sekitar 130tcf, info

 detail bisa didapat di link berikut:



 http://www.esdm. go.id/index. php?option= com_content
task=category§ionid=17id= 78Itemid= 185



 Reserve terbesar di dunia adanya di Qatar sebesar 900tcf sehingga dalam

 beberapa tahun ke depan Qatar 
akan menjadi biggest LNG exporter di dunia

 dengan volume sebesar 77mtpa sedangkan Indo ke depannya akan export 26mtpa

 LNG selain itu Indonesia 
juga export gas pipa ke Singapore 
sebesar 400mmscfd

 (CMIIW).



 Arun dan Bontang adalah biggest LNG exporter at this time being tapi ke

 depannya akan makin turun peringkatnya. Penemuan ladang gas terbesar saat

 ini adalah ladang gas Masella yang diklaim memiliki reserve 13tcf-an.



 Ke depannya investasi di bidang natural gas makin membutuhkan capital

 intensive karena kebanyakan harus masuk ke frontier area kl tidak

 pertambahan proven reserve tidak akan naik cepat dan setelah itu harus
cepat

 di proven up untuk diproduksi mumpung harga energi di dunia sedang
tinggi2.



 Yang harus diingat Indonesia 
lama kelamaan akan makin kehabisan natural

 resourcesnya sama seperti hutan kayu yang makin menipis dan kita harus

 belajar bijak seperti Qatar 
yang sudah menyetop penambahan exploitasi

 natural gas nya untuk diberikan kepada anak cucu mereka.

 Selain itu mereka investasi dana2 hasil migas dengan membangun industri
jasa

 di Qatar sehingga saat energy resources habis maka mereka sudah siap

 bersaing di bidang jasa



 So Indonesia 
don't rely to much on natural resources karena ada adigo bahwa

 kadang kala natural resources itu menjadi 'curse' for the country



 
 







  
 







  
 










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Re: [obrolan-bandar] MBAH_SULI

2007-10-17 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw





  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] SELL BEFORE LATE

2007-10-17 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw


- Original Message 
From: Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 17 October 2007 2:33:08
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG koreksi, Etrading engga bila BELANJA..,, 
Buat BAPEPAM LAGI !!!









  




Pak DE,
   
  Investor merem aja khan? 
  

Rudy rudy_hks2000@ yahoo.com wrote:
  Mr. Jsx_Consultant,
   
  Cara bacanya, copy huruf dari email Mr. DE (yang memakai font Wingdings) ke 
Microsoft Word, lalu ubah ke bentuk Font Times New Romans, ini hasil 
terjermahannya :
   
Wah gak boleh cuti nih... Ok review sedikit aja..
  
  IHSG dibikin merah sama big cap seperti PGAS, BBRI  TLKM, tapi dibuat 
rebound sama mining/energy. Ini menandakan adanya adjustment portfolio oleh 
pelaku yang SAMA. Kenapa? Karena BI telah menutup pembelian rupiah oleh asing 
sampai tanggal 19, artinya tidak ada dana baru yang masuk untuk sementara ini. 
(beli saham jsx harus pake rupiah, gak boleh pake dolar).
  
  Ini bagus, untuk menjaga agar rupiah tidak terlalu kuat thd USD, agar 
exporter tidak mengalami selisih kurs berlebihan..
  
  SEMENTARA ITU...
  
  Semakin lemah dollar, semakin mahal harga komoditi. Indonesia adalah negara 
kaya akan natural resources, jadi ini sangat menguntungkan. Kalau USD turun 
harga komoditi tetap, rugi dong bandarnya, kan komoditi semua dihargai dengan 
USD.
  
  Beda dengan Eropa (Jerman) yang ekspornya berupa barang jadi, makanya mereka 
minta fed jangan turunkan rate lagi untuk menjaga inflasi (alias menjaga kurs 
USDEUR) agar tidak tidak drop.
  
  Tenang, masih ada waktu seminggu lagi buat senyum-senyum, itupun kalau jadi. 
Kita masih diawal-awal masa bull market (setelah break 2400 kemarin), 
koreksi-koreksi sahat akan datang silih berganti tapi in the long run tetap 
akan profitable. Kalau para smart money wallstreet dan nikkei pada take profit, 
mungkin mereka lihat mendingan di invest di JSX.
  
  Jangan tanya rekomendasi per saham ya... b a h a y a.

   
  Sekarang Mr. DE memakai sandi kayak Mr. LCY :p
  
Salam,
  Rudy

  - Original Message 
From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:36:59 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG koreksi, Etrading engga bila BELANJA..,, 
Buat BAPEPAM LAGI !!!

pak Odink,

Gimana cara bacanya ?

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 imelnya gak kebaca kl pake plain text, pake html baru kebaca.. 
posting ke 
 milis jadi ke' mo perang aja nih.. hehehehe
 
 On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:11:33 +0700, jsx_consultant 
 jsx-consultant@ ... wrote:
 
  pak DE ini SANGAT POPUPER, nulis posting mirip email kena VIRUS
  aja BANYAK yg GEMBIRA
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] TO MR DE Rei

2007-10-17 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
It is time sell
ANTM
PTBA
BUMI
MEDC
ENRG
BLTA
MEDC
ADHI
TINS
INCO
PGAS
INTP
ISAT
BMRI
BBCA
ASII
AALI
BDMN

TRADING BUY SULI = TP = 5000-5500

- Original Message 
From: Rizka Utomo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 17 October 2007 2:50:19
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG koreksi.. a cry for help, wah banyak 
bener responsnya.









  



Forum obrolan bandar benar-benar komunitas yang luar biasa. Satu 
teriakan minta tolong, eh banyak bener tangan yang terulur membantu. 
Terimakasih banyak, ini salah satu alasan forum ini dicintai banyak orang. .. 
ya nggak semuanya, tentunya ada juga yang gemas dan geram. 

Rei highwaystar91@ yahoo.com wrote:  
  Pak DE,
   
  Investor merem aja khan? 
  

Rudy rudy_hks2000@ yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Mr. Jsx_Consultant,
   
  Cara bacanya, copy huruf dari email Mr. DE (yang memakai font Wingdings) ke 
Microsoft Word, lalu ubah ke bentuk Font Times New Romans, ini hasil 
terjermahannya :
   
Wah gak boleh cuti nih... Ok review sedikit aja..
  
  IHSG dibikin merah sama big cap seperti PGAS, BBRI  TLKM, tapi dibuat 
rebound sama mining/energy. Ini menandakan adanya adjustment portfolio oleh 
pelaku yang SAMA. Kenapa? Karena BI telah menutup pembelian rupiah oleh asing 
sampai tanggal 19, artinya tidak ada dana baru yang masuk untuk sementara ini. 
(beli saham jsx harus pake rupiah, gak boleh pake dolar).
  
  Ini bagus, untuk menjaga agar rupiah tidak terlalu kuat thd USD, agar 
exporter tidak mengalami selisih kurs berlebihan..
  
  SEMENTARA ITU...
  
  Semakin lemah dollar, semakin mahal harga komoditi. Indonesia adalah negara 
kaya akan natural resources, jadi ini sangat menguntungkan. Kalau USD turun 
harga komoditi tetap, rugi dong bandarnya, kan komoditi
 semua dihargai dengan USD.
  
  Beda dengan Eropa (Jerman) yang ekspornya berupa barang jadi, makanya mereka 
minta fed jangan turunkan rate lagi untuk menjaga inflasi (alias menjaga kurs 
USDEUR) agar tidak tidak drop.
  
  Tenang, masih ada waktu seminggu lagi buat senyum-senyum, itupun kalau jadi. 
Kita masih diawal-awal masa bull market (setelah break 2400 kemarin), 
koreksi-koreksi sahat akan datang silih berganti tapi in the long run tetap 
akan profitable. Kalau para smart money wallstreet dan
 nikkei pada take profit, mungkin mereka lihat mendingan di invest di JSX.
  
  Jangan tanya rekomendasi per saham ya... b a h a y a.

   
  Sekarang Mr. DE memakai sandi kayak Mr. LCY :p
  
Salam,
  Rudy

  - Original Message 
From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:36:59 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG koreksi, Etrading engga bila BELANJA..,, 
Buat BAPEPAM LAGI !!!

pak Odink,

Gimana cara bacanya ?

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Odink [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote:

 imelnya gak kebaca kl pake plain text, pake html baru kebaca.. 
posting ke 
 milis jadi ke' mo perang aja nih.. hehehehe
 
 On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:11:33 +0700, jsx_consultant 
 jsx-consultant@ ... wrote:
 
  pak DE ini SANGAT POPUPER, nulis posting mirip email kena VIRUS
  aja BANYAK yg GEMBIRA

 
  Come on... many people MISS YOU...





  


  



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: gosip_saham ENRG

2007-10-17 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
hi..hi..hii..hii.

- Original Message 
From: gosip_saham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 17 October 2007 4:06:23
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TO MR DE  Rei









  



You can sell others but not for ENRG, Sky is the limit hahaha.. 

TP = $.))) You never know what's the next CA for ENRG, mr. Lee. If 

you really have big funds, please try to short ENRG. I am waiting :)



--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED]  

wrote:



 It is time sell

 ANTM

 PTBA

 BUMI

 MEDC

 ENRG

 BLTA

 MEDC

 ADHI

 TINS

 INCO

 PGAS

 INTP

 ISAT

 BMRI

 BBCA

 ASII

 AALI

 BDMN

 

 TRADING BUY SULI = TP = 5000-5500

 

 - Original Message 

 From: Rizka Utomo rizkautomo@ ...

 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

 Sent: Wednesday, 17 October 2007 2:50:19

 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG koreksi.. a cry for help, 

wah banyak bener responsnya.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

 Forum obrolan bandar benar-benar komunitas yang luar 

biasa. Satu teriakan minta tolong, eh banyak bener tangan yang 

terulur membantu. Terimakasih banyak, ini salah satu alasan forum ini 

dicintai banyak orang. .. ya nggak semuanya, tentunya ada juga yang 

gemas dan geram. 

 






  







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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] ENRG TP 1350

2007-10-17 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
hi...hi...hihi.hi.

- Original Message 
From: James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 18 October 2007 10:48:09
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] ENRG TP 1350









  



Bung QQ,



Mending model riset PTBA nggak tanggung2 diupgrade langsung ama OD ke

11000 dan sekarang sudah 9000an, sedangkan BUMI yang koar2 TP malah

kalah cepat walaupun TP sering diupgrade terus.



Hari ini ENRG cari nafas dulu setelah naik hampir 20% dalam sehari.

Kalau nafas sudah terkumpul bisa lanjut atau shake out dulu, biasalah

model BUMI digoncang keras banget hingga semua penumpang terlempar

keluar gerbong terutama nekaders yang naik di atap gerbong baru deh

masinis plus crew kerja cepat tambahin COAL ke dalam STEAMnya dan

langsung mulus lolos dari pos penjagaan di 3850an.



On 10/17/07, oentoeng_qq oentoeng_qq@ yahoo.com wrote:













 Begitulah P. James...

  Sambil nunggu RELEASE dari ENRG, mungkin nggak akan lama lagi akan

  dikeluarin.

  Tapi yang jelas RISET LAIN akan BERMUNCULAN. ..kalau harga naik terus

  akan di-UPGRADE TERUS

  BUMI dulu khan juga BEGITU...



  Kalau dahulu TRUB pernah mengejar harga ENRG, sekarang ENRG akan

  mengejar KETERTINGGALANnya. ..



  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, James Arifin

  james.arifin@ ... wrote:

  

   never drop below 1100 again tapi gimana kalau turun dari 1440 hingga

   ke level 1110? Bisa big loss dong, kok semua sekarang sukanya kode

   LCY. Malah target naik 2x lipat lagi ke 4000, yang benar aja lah ke

   2000 dulu aja sudah bagus baru nanti kita ngomong lagi kapan ke

   4000nya

  



  




  







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Re: [obrolan-bandar] The Buying Power The Limit

2007-10-17 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
when the people have  a buying power
where is the limit?

2 months = 40% ?? 
1900--2650


- Original Message 
From: Angelo Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Milis obrolan-bandar obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 18 October 2007 11:15:36
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] ENRG - The Power of Classic TA









  







Segera setelah 
target C  H tercapai, saham ini mengalami 
koreksi.

Bagi para pengguna Klasik TA yang antri jual di 
TP 1470, ...cakep banget! 

Nggak terjebak nyangkut.

 



 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Antara Mining, USD dan INFLOW

2007-10-17 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
Man Emir ? 

No Emir go to Indonesia..bring money

Eminem go to Indonesia ...take money 


- Original Message 
From: James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 18 October 2007 12:35:36
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Antara Mining, USD dan INFLOW









  



most of the market is very regulated except Asian market. Foreigners

are limited to invest in Shanghai Stock market. HSI sudah ketinggian

sedangkan Indonesia market lebih open dibanding Malaysia ataupun

Thailand sehingga duit seabreq2 hasil jualan minyak para EMIR perlu

tempat untuk investasi yah jadilah Indonesia dijadikan bulan2an

investor asing karena semua barang di Indonesia masih kemurahan.



On 10/18/07, Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ gmail.com wrote:

















 I see. Thanks for the explanation. Well, you're the expert on this. I knew

 that you would reply. :) I agree with the curse thing, it happens in

 Africa (saw it on National Geographic), but I guess It wouldn't be that bad

 in here.



 Btw, how about other resources, like CPO and other commodities? And why all

 those crazy foreign investors were buying everything lately.. is something

 to think about. Even my fellow friends are quite surprised with them. Crazy

 yankees.



 Regards,

 DE



 -Original Message-

 From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
 com]

 On Behalf Of James Arifin

 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 12:07 PM

 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Antara Mining, USD dan INFLOW



 Yang benar Indonesia memiliki reserve natural gas sekitar 130tcf, info

 detail bisa didapat di link berikut:



 http://www.esdm. go.id/index. php?option= com_content 
 task=category§ionid=17id= 78Itemid= 185



 Reserve terbesar di dunia adanya di Qatar sebesar 900tcf sehingga dalam

 beberapa tahun ke depan Qatar akan menjadi biggest LNG exporter di dunia

 dengan volume sebesar 77mtpa sedangkan Indo ke depannya akan export 26mtpa

 LNG selain itu Indonesia juga export gas pipa ke Singapore sebesar 400mmscfd

 (CMIIW).



 Arun dan Bontang adalah biggest LNG exporter at this time being tapi ke

 depannya akan makin turun peringkatnya. Penemuan ladang gas terbesar saat

 ini adalah ladang gas Masella yang diklaim memiliki reserve 13tcf-an.



 Ke depannya investasi di bidang natural gas makin membutuhkan capital

 intensive karena kebanyakan harus masuk ke frontier area kl tidak

 pertambahan proven reserve tidak akan naik cepat dan setelah itu harus cepat

 di proven up untuk diproduksi mumpung harga energi di dunia sedang tinggi2.



 Yang harus diingat Indonesia lama kelamaan akan makin kehabisan natural

 resourcesnya sama seperti hutan kayu yang makin menipis dan kita harus

 belajar bijak seperti Qatar yang sudah menyetop penambahan exploitasi

 natural gas nya untuk diberikan kepada anak cucu mereka.

 Selain itu mereka investasi dana2 hasil migas dengan membangun industri jasa

 di Qatar sehingga saat energy resources habis maka mereka sudah siap

 bersaing di bidang jasa



 So Indonesia don't rely to much on natural resources karena ada adigo bahwa

 kadang kala natural resources itu menjadi 'curse' for the country



  




  







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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Mr Lee, what are they : 7 diamond,7 star, 7 silver

2007-10-04 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
see my email before
or u can ask our friend fetr90

- Original Message 
From: gunawan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2007 12:39:25
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Mr Lee, what are they : 7 diamond,7 star, 7 silver









  







Mr.LCY, interesting portfolio classification 


 

may we know , what are they : 

7 diamond

7 star 

7 silver 

 

 

thx

regards 

gunawan 

 


  - Original Message - 

  From: 
  Lee Cwan 
  Yeuw 

  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
  

  Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 7:45 
  AM

  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA 
   TMPI

  


  
  
  

  sorry 
  j/k. of course you are not monkey. see the story of capital market  
  philosophy. 

i think..your blackberry more value than a piece of tempei 
  (indonesian food)

are you joining the family of indonesian black berry 
  ?

you are the best one

i hope u get big gain in the future n we 
  can meet in singapore next

and don't buy anything if don't know that 
  you will buy. 

save your money n don't be monkey likes in the story. 
  ok

if you are my follower you will buy 7 diamonds, 7 stars and now i 
  have 7 silvers

you will get big gain

GBU


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From: JsxTrader 
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To: 
  obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2007 
  3:06:55
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA  TMPI

  


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Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 
  16:12:06 

To:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: 
  [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA





What do you mean, mr 
  Lee??



--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Lee Cwan 
  Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

wrote:



 people buy 
  tmpi  4.000 = monkeys.

 

 but HL  LH 
  ???

 

 - Original Message 

 From: Rei 
  highwaystar91@ ...

 To: 
  obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

 Sent: Wednesday, 3 
  October 2007 5:24:22

 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] 
  PTBA

 

 

 

 

 
  

 

 

 

 

   
  

 

 

 
  

 
  

 Hehe jadi ingat cerita LCY soal monyet...tapi ptba fundamental 
  

bagus sekali saya dengar. 

   Utk long term 
  sangat baik apalagi ada CA plus harga minyak yg 

naik terus. Saya malah 
  dengar 10 ribu! 

 

 agoes_htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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   Ada yg bilang 
  PTBA bakal ke 8750. Ada yg bisa kasih comment 

atau 

 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA

2007-10-03 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
people buy tmpi  4.000 = monkeys.

but HL  LH ???

- Original Message 
From: Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2007 5:24:22
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA









  




Hehe jadi ingat cerita LCY soal monyet...tapi ptba fundamental bagus sekali 
saya dengar. 
  Utk long term sangat baik apalagi ada CA plus harga minyak yg naik terus. 
Saya malah dengar 10 ribu! 

agoes_htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:
  Ada yg bilang PTBA bakal ke 8750. Ada yg bisa kasih comment atau 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA TMPI

2007-10-03 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
sorry j/k. of course you are not monkey. see the story of capital market  
philosophy. 

i think..your blackberry more value than a piece of tempei (indonesian food)

are you joining the family of indonesian black berry ?

you are the best one

i hope u get big gain in the future n we can meet in singapore next

and don't buy anything if don't know that you will buy. 

save your money n don't be monkey likes in the story. ok

if you are my follower you will buy 7 diamonds, 7 stars and now i have 7 silvers

you will get big gain

GBU

- Original Message 
From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2007 3:06:55
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA  TMPI



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From: agoes_htm [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:12:06 

To:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA





What do you mean, mr Lee??



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

wrote:



 people buy tmpi  4.000 = monkeys.

 

 but HL  LH ???

 

 - Original Message 

 From: Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com

 Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2007 5:24:22

 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

 

 Hehe jadi ingat cerita LCY soal monyet...tapi ptba fundamental 

bagus sekali saya dengar. 

   Utk long term sangat baik apalagi ada CA plus harga minyak yg 

naik terus. Saya malah dengar 10 ribu! 

 

 agoes_htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:

   Ada yg bilang PTBA bakal ke 8750. Ada yg bisa kasih comment 

atau 

 analisnya? Trims

 

 

 

 

  

   

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Saatnya RALS .....

2007-10-03 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
difference with traderinvestor don't like the price jump


- Original Message 
From: Heryadi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2007 7:53:40
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Saatnya RALS .









  







But I already gain 3.5% only 2 days from 
RALS.

buy at 850 tg 1/10 and selll 880 tg 
2/10.

 

Salam,

 


  - Original Message - 

  From: 
  agoes_htm 
  

  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 

  Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 4:10 
  PM

  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Saatnya 
  RALS .

  


  
  Cuurent share price is the proof, hhehehe the price is stable. 
nothing 
  is change

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  wrote:

 Are you sure, Boss?
 You can ask Mr Lee Chwan 
  Yew
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: 
  agoes_htm 
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
  
 Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 4:07 PM
 Subject: 
  [obrolan-bandar] Re: Saatnya RALS .
 
 
 RALS gagal 
  akuisisi ALFA. Is it worthed to buy?? retail masih ada 
MAPI, 
 
  TMPI, hehehehe. I think none retail company is good for invest now
 
  
 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, 
  alfian bachtiar 
griper_g@ 
 wrote:
 
 
   untuk retail MPPA sudah naik...sekarang waktunya 
  
RALS
  
  
  
   _ _ _ _  
  
  Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di di bidang 
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] SULI=TP_CL=%.@))

2007-10-02 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw


- Original Message 
From: Lani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2007 5:12:03
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Suli









  



Mohon info ttg Suli...




  







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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Analisa PAPAN CATUR bandarmologi

2007-09-30 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
Hi..hi...h

- Original Message 
From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 1 October 2007 11:44:49
Subject: Fw: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Analisa PAPAN CATUR bandarmologi









  



11:27



Etrading embah juga DOWN beberapa menit, koneksi internet

punya Etrading PUTUS...



Kalo bursa lagi HOT, HOTS biasa seperti GINI, mungkin

dikerjain mafia...



HOTS putus saat TLKM dinaekin ...



Didalam perang seperti juga dalam perang bursa, para

trooper trader dibikin SENEWEN, biar NALURI TRADINGnya

terganggu secara PSIKOLOGIS.



--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Bong Mi Yun [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. 

wrote:



 HOTS macet, tanda2 alam kah?

 

 jsx_consultant wrote:

 

  Level 2400 itu cuman 7 point lagi dari HIGHnya pagi ini...

 

  Ini MOMEN yg BENER BENER menegangkan (disengaja oleh si BOZZ)

  karena:

  - 2400 merupakan PREVIOUS 2 month HIGH

  - Jika tembus 2400, maka IHSG akan menembus DARVAS BOX,

  dan para Techicalist akan BERLONCATAN naik kereta lagi.

  Betul engga pak Budi Suryono ?.

 

  Apakah KETEGANGAN ini akan dijadikan CLIMAX pada pengumuman

  INFLASI jam 1:00

 








  







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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Filosofi Pasar Modal=LCY sent 2 month ago

2007-09-28 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
I sent this story  2 month ago. check it.

the story is for the junk stock

for the good stock like this

Grandfa... They (don'T) know. include ANTM TP 1400.?

When people (monkey in story) selltheir antm.
Other buy antm at low price
Now..people (monkey in story) must buy in the high

hi..hi...hi...

So, as  analyst..they must keep their reputation.

remember my TP PGAS= !!.))). Now [EMAIL PROTECTED]))).

Don't remember their TP ANTM = 1.400





- Original Message 
From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 27 September 2007 8:32:59
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Filosofi Pasar Modal









  



Embah jadi bertanya-tanya, apakah seorang direktur perusahaan

sekuritas TIDAK tahu atau PURA2 tidak tahu kalo sekuritasnya 

dipakai oleh para PENGGORENG saham ?.



--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Kancil Cirebon [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. 

wrote:



 Filisofi Pasar Modal

 Oleh: Lily Widjaja*

 24/09/2007 01:42:47 WIB  

 JAKARTA, Investor Daily

 Beberapa waktu lalu saya mendapat surat elektronik (e-mail)  dari 

seorang konsultan keuangan (lihat artikel di bawah). Menarik, karena 

e-mail tersebut datang dari seorang konsultan keuangan yang 

beraktivitas di pasar modal.

 Judul e-mail tersebut adalah Philisophy of the Stock Market atau 

Filisofi Pasar Saham. Isinya begini: Sekali peristiwa di sebuah desa, 

muncullah seorang tuan yang mengumumkan kepada para penghuni desa 

bahwa dia akan membeli monyet dengan harga 10 Ringgit per ekor. Para 

penghuni desa yang melihat banyak monyet di hutan bersegera keluar 

dan mulai menangkap monyet-monyet itu.

 Tuan itu membeli beribu-ribu ekor monyet dengan harga 10 Ringgit. 

Ketika persediaan monyet mulai menurun dan para penghuni desa mulai 

menghentikan usaha mereka, dia mengumumkan bahwa sekarang dia akan 

membeli monyet pada harga 20 Ringgit per ekor. Para penghuni desa 

tergerak, dan mereka mulai menangkap monyet lagi. Persediaan monyet 

pun semakin menurun dan mereka kembali ke kebun.

 Harga penawaran kemudian dinaikkan menjadi 25 Ringgit per ekor. 

Karena persediaan monyet sedemikian langka maka diperlukan  upaya 

lebih keras dari sebelumnya. Tak berapa lama Tuan itu mengumumkan 

bahwa dia akan membeli monyet pada harga 50 Ringgit per ekor. Tapi 

berhubung dia harus ke kota untuk urusan bisnis, maka  asistennya 

yang diserahi tugas  untuk kepentingannya.

 Ketika Tuan itu sudah pergi, asisten itu berkata kepada para 

penghuni desa: Lihatlah monyet-monyet di kandang besar yang telah 

dikumpulkan oleh Tuan. Saya akan menjual monyet-monyet kepada Anda 

seharga 35 Ringgit per ekor, dan ketika Tuan  kembali, Anda bisa 

menjual kepadanya dengan  harga 50 Ringgit per ekor. 

 Terjadilah antre panjang para penghuni desa untuk membeli monyet 

dengan seluruh tabungan yang ada pada mereka. Ternyata setelah itu, 

baik asisten maupun Tuan lenyap tak berbekas, sementara  monyet-

monyet ada di mana-mana! 

 

 

 Persepsi Jadi Realitas

 Persepsi menjadi kenyataan (perception becomes reality) adalah 

ungkapan paling tepat untuk menggambarkan kisah tersebut di atas. 

Kisah di atas bisa mewakili apa yang sering terjadi di pasar modal. 

 Belum lama ini pasar modal kita dihebohkan dengan kasus gagal bayar 

antarpialang atas transaksi suatu saham dengan nilai lebih dari Rp 

200 miliar. Dalam hitungan bulan, harga saham ini bergerak 

spektakuler, dari di bawah Rp100  menjadi di atas Rp 4.000. Nilai 

transaksi yang terjadi setiap hari pun tidak tanggung-tanggung, 

pernah mencapai di atas Rp 1 triliun. 

 Para pelaku pasar pun berdecak dan senang. Tapi tidak sedikit juga 

yang cemas. Mereka senang, karena dengan pergerakan harga yang naik 

luar biasa mereka akan memperoleh keuntungan yang substansial. Namun, 

mereka cemas kalau-kalau harga keburu turun sementara mereka belum 

sempat menjual kembali apa yang telah mereka beli pada harga tinggi. 

Cemas karena mereka tahu bahwa penurunan harga, cepat atau lambat 

tetap akan terjadi, namun kapan persisnya, semuanya tak bisa 

memperkirakan.

 Apa yang dicemaskan kemudian benar-benar terjadi. Harga saham 

menukik tajam sampai suspensi oleh Otoritas Bursa pada level sekitar 

Rp 2.000. Ada yang memang meraup untung karena sempat menjual di atas 

harga beli, tapi ada juga yang rugi besar, karena telanjur membeli 

pada harga tinggi dan belum sempat menjual kembali.

 

 

 Penggorengan Saham

 Ada istilah yang populer di pasar modal kita yakni  saham gorengan, 

dengan pelakunya disebut penggoreng saham atau tukang goreng saham. 

Menarik, bukan? 

 Ternyata bukan hanya pisang yang bisa digoreng, saham pun bisa. 

Artinya saham bisa diberi bumbu dengan berbagai informasi menarik 

dan menjanjikan untuk menciptakan persepsi bahwa saham itu memang 

bagus dan banyak peminat. 

 Lalu harga semakin naik seiring naiknya permintaan dan turunnya 

persediaan. Setelah harga naik tinggi, penggoreng saham mulai menjual 


Re: [obrolan-bandar]TO ftr90

2007-09-28 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
2 weeks ago i sent my email 
BTEL  ISAT  =  *.)))
= switch your BTEL to ISAT
and ISAT =*.)))

Sorry. makes you confuse.. my code



.

- Original Message 
From: feter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 28 September 2007 1:30:19
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Filosofi Pasar Modal=LCY sent 2 month ago









  












I always remember any single advice given
from you Mr. Lee
 

PGAS =!!.))), definitely I remember that
 

ANTM = $.@))
 

SMGR  INCO, SMGR  *.)))
 

I respect your clue, and I am waiting
another miracle BTEL  ISAT = *.))), the big miracle that will be happened after
PTBA = UNTR
 

 
 

Ftr
 

  
 










From:
obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com] On 
Behalf Of Lee Cwan Yeuw

Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007
1:12 PM

To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re:
Filosofi Pasar Modal=LCY sent 2 month ago
 




  
 











I sent this story  2
month ago. check it.



the story is for the junk stock



for the good stock like this



Grandfa... They (don'T) know. include ANTM TP 1400.?



When people (monkey in story) selltheir antm.

Other buy antm at low price

Now..people (monkey in story) must buy in the high



hi..hi...hi. ..



So, as  analyst..they must keep their reputation.



remember my TP PGAS= !!.))). Now [EMAIL PROTECTED]))).



Don't remember their TP ANTM = 1.400










 



- Original Message


From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id

To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thursday, 27 September 2007 8:32:59

Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Filosofi Pasar Modal
 



Embah jadi bertanya-tanya, apakah seorang direktur
perusahaan

sekuritas TIDAK tahu atau PURA2 tidak tahu kalo sekuritasnya 

dipakai oleh para PENGGORENG saham ?.



--- In obrolan-bandar@
yahoogroups. com, Kancil Cirebon [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. 

wrote:



 Filisofi Pasar Modal

 Oleh: Lily Widjaja*

 24/09/2007 01:42:47 WIB 

 JAKARTA ,
Investor Daily

 Beberapa waktu lalu saya mendapat surat 
elektronik (e-mail) dari 

seorang konsultan keuangan (lihat artikel di bawah). Menarik, karena 

e-mail tersebut datang dari seorang konsultan keuangan yang 

beraktivitas di pasar modal.

 Judul e-mail tersebut adalah Philisophy of the Stock Market atau 

Filisofi Pasar Saham. Isinya begini: Sekali peristiwa di sebuah desa, 

muncullah seorang tuan yang mengumumkan kepada para penghuni desa 

bahwa dia akan membeli monyet dengan harga 10 Ringgit per ekor. Para 

penghuni desa yang melihat banyak monyet di hutan bersegera keluar 

dan mulai menangkap monyet-monyet itu.

 Tuan itu membeli beribu-ribu ekor monyet dengan harga 10 Ringgit. 

Ketika persediaan monyet mulai menurun dan para penghuni desa mulai 

menghentikan usaha mereka, dia mengumumkan bahwa sekarang dia akan 

membeli monyet pada harga 20 Ringgit per ekor. Para 
penghuni desa 

tergerak, dan mereka mulai menangkap monyet lagi. Persediaan monyet 

pun semakin menurun dan mereka kembali ke kebun.

 Harga penawaran kemudian dinaikkan menjadi 25 Ringgit per ekor. 

Karena persediaan monyet sedemikian langka maka diperlukan upaya 

lebih keras dari sebelumnya. Tak berapa lama Tuan itu mengumumkan 

bahwa dia akan membeli monyet pada harga 50 Ringgit per ekor. Tapi 

berhubung dia harus ke kota 
untuk urusan bisnis, maka asistennya 

yang diserahi tugas untuk kepentingannya.

 Ketika Tuan itu sudah pergi, asisten itu berkata kepada para 

penghuni desa: Lihatlah monyet-monyet di kandang besar yang telah 

dikumpulkan oleh Tuan. Saya akan menjual monyet-monyet kepada Anda 

seharga 35 Ringgit per ekor, dan ketika Tuan kembali, Anda bisa 

menjual kepadanya dengan harga 50 Ringgit per ekor. 

 Terjadilah antre panjang para penghuni desa untuk membeli monyet 

dengan seluruh tabungan yang ada pada mereka. Ternyata setelah itu, 

baik asisten maupun Tuan lenyap tak berbekas, sementara monyet-

monyet ada di mana-mana! 

 

 

 Persepsi Jadi Realitas

 Persepsi menjadi kenyataan (perception becomes reality) adalah 

ungkapan paling tepat untuk menggambarkan kisah tersebut di atas. 

Kisah di atas bisa mewakili apa yang sering terjadi di pasar modal. 

 Belum lama ini pasar modal kita dihebohkan dengan kasus gagal bayar 

antarpialang atas transaksi suatu saham dengan nilai lebih dari Rp 

200 miliar. Dalam hitungan bulan, harga saham ini bergerak 

spektakuler, dari di bawah Rp100 menjadi di atas Rp 4.000. Nilai 

transaksi yang terjadi setiap hari pun tidak tanggung-tanggung, 

pernah mencapai di atas Rp 1 triliun. 

 Para pelaku pasar pun berdecak dan
senang. Tapi tidak sedikit juga 

yang cemas. Mereka senang, karena dengan pergerakan harga yang naik 

luar biasa mereka akan memperoleh keuntungan yang substansial. Namun, 

mereka cemas kalau-kalau harga keburu turun sementara mereka belum 

sempat menjual kembali apa yang telah mereka beli pada harga tinggi. 

Cemas karena mereka tahu bahwa

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Filosofi Pasar Modal=LCY sent 2 month ago

2007-09-28 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
see II maintain new issuer

- Original Message 
From: Syarif [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 28 September 2007 2:00:19
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Filosofi Pasar Modal=LCY sent 2 month ago









  



Pak LCY,

punya info DEWA gak?

mo dibawa ke berapa???

apa bisa sampe !.))) sampe akhir taon?

ato malah di $.)) aja?

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] RALS=RICH company..low price..low risk..high return BUY NOW!!!

2007-09-27 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
EXCEPT-- RALS-TP1.000,-
People will go to RALS dept store.

Low price low riskhigh return.


- Original Message 
From: Aa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 28 September 2007 11:16:34
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Minggu depan pembagian jatah THR, dimulai hari ini









  



So hindari saham2nya abang doekoen jamoe...hihihihi



- Original Message - 

From: doekoen jamoe doekoen.jamoe@ gmail.com

To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] com

Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 10:52 AM

Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Minggu depan pembagian jatah THR, dimulai hari ini



 Minggu depan diprediksi akan jadi minggu penuh dengan kesunyian dan 

 kerugian

 untuk para investor maupun trader.

 para pemain akumulasi cash untuk distribusi THR.

 Dimulai hari ini, paling aman keep the cash.



 Disclaimer

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati-Hati Jebakan BRPT!!!

2007-09-21 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
I give you information about BRPT, 3 month ago

now i give you info...about RALS... buy now 
but i don't buy this... this is not my portfolio

- Original Message 
From: Wandy Wiratman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 21 September 2007 10:16:29
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Hati-Hati Jebakan BRPT!!!









  












Terima Kasih atas
Perhatian anda sama OD..hehehe...
 

  
 

Memasuki Bursa Saham itu
ibarat memasuki Medan Tempurmeminjam
istilah Mbah Bandar...dibutuhkan Taktik dan Strategi dan Intelijen
yang jitu...
 

Seorang Jendral (walaupun skrng sy masih Kopral) Tempur
yang baik... harus mampu mengalokasikan sumber daya yang ada... Rumors, 
Fundamental, Technikal serta peran Intelijen yang
Mantab yang menyokong berhasilnya bobolnya sasaran Musuh
 

Bravo Bursa Saham
 

  
 

Best Regards
 

  
 

  
 

WW
 

  
 

  
 

  
 










From:
obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com] On 
Behalf Of harryandy_surjadi

Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007
10:40 PM

To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: [obrolan-bandar]
Hati-Hati Jebakan BRPT!!!
 




  
 







Ini daftar cuci gudang OD dr pagi ampe tutup:



09:35:48 49479616 2,550 6 50 2.00 IF D D OD 200

10:10:02 49489795 2,550 6 50 2.00 RO F D OD 50

10:04:42 49488538 2,550 6 50 2.00 NI D D OD 100

09:38:57 49480739 2,550 6 50 2.00 ES D D OD 10

09:36:41 49479839 2,550 6 50 2.00 IF D D OD 40

10:10:49 49490031 2,550 6 50 2.00 RO F D OD 200

10:27:47 49494815 2,550 6 50 2.00 RO F D OD 40

11:10:48 49504713 2,550 6 50 2.00 KI D D OD 12

11:10:48 49504712 2,550 6 50 2.00 KI D D OD 400

11:10:48 49504711 2,550 6 50 2.00 BD D D OD 2

11:10:48 49504710 2,550 6 50 2.00 NI D D OD 2

11:10:48 49504709 2,550 6 50 2.00 SS D D OD 100

11:10:48 49504708 2,550 6 50 2.00 IF D D OD 98

11:10:48 49504707 2,550 6 50 2.00 PS D D OD 50

11:10:48 49504706 2,550 6 50 2.00 KK D D OD 36

11:41:09 49507936 2,550 6 50 2.00 IF D D OD 200

11:41:09 49507935 2,550 6 50 2.00 IF D D OD 25

11:41:09 49507934 2,550 6 50 2.00 IF D D OD 4

11:51:36 49509573 2,550 6 50 2.00 BM D D OD 146

11:47:44 49509215 2,550 6 50 2.00 IN D D OD 50

11:47:44 49509214 2,550 6 50 2.00 IF D D OD 4

13:39:28 49512186 2,575 6 75 3.00 RO D D OD 50

13:30:01 49510525 2,575 6 75 3.00 LG D D OD 150

11:55:50 49510040 2,550 6 50 2.00 BM D D OD 300

13:43:01 49512860 2,575 6 75 3.00 KK D D OD 300

13:43:01 49512866 2,575 6 75 3.00 KK D D OD 5

13:44:15 49513239 2,575 6 75 3.00 LG D D OD 17

13:44:04 49513130 2,575 6 75 3.00 PD D D OD 20

13:43:59 49513116 2,575 6 75 3.00 TP D D OD 20

13:43:59 49513115 2,575 6 75 3.00 KI D D OD 50

13:43:59 49513114 2,575 6 75 3.00 KK D D OD 93

14:00:40 49516274 2,575 6 75 3.00 RO D D OD 79

13:59:57 49516206 2,575 6 75 3.00 ZP D D OD 100

13:59:57 49516205 2,575 6 75 3.00 KI D D OD 21

13:59:36 49516164 2,575 6 75 3.00 KI D D OD 179

13:58:41 49516059 2,575 6 75 3.00 OK D D OD 121

14:25:08 49519012 2,600 6 100 4.00 ZP F D OD 3

14:25:08 49519011 2,600 6 100 4.00 ZP F D OD 18

14:25:07 49519010 2,600 6 100 4.00 ZP F D OD 7

14:25:07 49519008 2,600 6 100 4.00 ZP F D OD 21

14:25:07 49519007 2,600 6 100 4.00 ZP F D OD 11

14:25:07 49519006 2,600 6 100 4.00 ZP F D OD 3

14:25:07 49519005 2,600 6 100 4.00 ZP F D OD 14

14:25:06 49519004 2,600 6 100 4.00 ZP F D OD 5

14:25:06 49519003 2,

14:25:13 49519031 2,600 6 100 4.00 KK D D OD 251

114:30:38 49519659 2,625 6 125 5.00 KI D D OD 500

14:25:13 49519031 2,600 6 100 4.00 KK D D OD 251

114:30:38 49519659 2,625 6 125 5.00 KI D D OD 500

14:30:38 49519659 2,625 6 125 5.00 KI D D OD 500

14:30:54 49519703 2,650 6 150 6.00 PD D D OD 520

14:30:54 49519702 2,650 6 150 6.00 PD D D OD 500

14:30:54 49519707 2,650 6 150 6.00 PD D D OD 300

14:31:35 49519748 2,675 6 175 7.00 PD D D OD 75

14:31:35 49519746 2,675 6 175 7.00 KI D D OD 50

14:31:33 49519744 2,675 6 175 7.00 ZP D D OD 100

14:31:33 49519743 2,675 6 175 7.00 GR D D OD 25

14:31:33 49519742 2,675 6 175 7.00 AZ D D OD 50

14:31:26 49519735 2,675 6 175 7.00 YJ D D OD 200

14:31:59 49519801 2,700 6 200 8.00 IF D D OD 195

14:31:58 49519799 2,675 6 175 7.00 HP D D OD 26

14:31:58 49519798 2,675 6 175 7.00 KC D D OD 100

14:31:58 49519797 2,675 6 175 7.00 IN D D OD 20

14:31:58 49519796 2,675 6 175 7.00 AO D D OD 20

14:31:58 49519795 2,675 6 175 7.00 DP F D OD 34

14:31:58 49519794 2,700 6 200 8.00 DH D D OD 5

14:31:55 49519781 2,700 6 200 8.00 OK D D OD 200

14:34:29 49520215 2,675 6 175 7.00 PD D D OD 20

14:34:28 49520210 2,675 6 175 7.00 BD D D OD 10

14:34:23 49520186 2,675 6 175 7.00 KK D D OD 99

14:34:19 49520164 2,675 6 175 7.00 CC D D OD 50

14:34:14 49520131 2,675 6 175 7.00 CM D D OD 100

14:33:37 49520027 2,675 6 175 7.00 GR D D OD 21

14:35:06 49520318 2,700 6 200 8.00 KK D D OD 200

14:36:59 49520520 2,725 6 225 9.00 KK D D OD 8

14:36:59 49520519 2,725 6 225 9.00 KK D D OD 480

14:36:37 49520489 2,700 6 200 8.00 KK D D OD 72

14:36:37 49520488 2,700 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] ADHI = !.%))

2007-09-19 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw


- Original Message 
From: Armando Anthony [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2007 9:44:18
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Good job, Bernanke.









  



OK deh, thanks

Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ gmail.com wrote:  
  PGAS lagi diakumulasi asing, makanya harganya tidak dibiarkan naik. Beda 
dengan ANTM yang proses akumulasinya sudah selesai dan sudah mulai terbang. 
(Inget kemarin ada yang sewot dimilis kenapa ANTM gak naik-naik... .hehe.. pak 
Eka udah kasih forecast yang menurut saya sudah bagus sekali) 
   
  Targetnya PGAS akan mulai terbang jika sudah terkumpul minimal senilai 1Trio+ 
(net).  Silahken cari sendiri siapa yang lagi kumpulin :) 
 
  
  Kalau semua lancar, proses akumulasi sampai akhir bulan ini selesai.
   
  Keyword : Energy, Metals, Retailers
   
  Regards,
  DE

 
  On 9/19/07, Armando Anthony armando.anthony@ yahoo.com wrote:   Saya 
juga heran, 3 sekuritas yang saya pakai semuanya advis untuk jual.  Time to 
sell, katanya.  Saya lebih memilih menghitung unrealized gain aja, sambil 
nonton monitor sekali-sekali.  Jual sedikit2 buat lebaran dan sebagian untuk 
tahun baru. 
   
  Cuma yang rada heran PGAS kok malah minus? Apa karena labanya turun? Tembus 
11000 kok susah bener? Bung DE ada input? please share...
   
  AA

Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ gmail.com wrote: 
  Pile of cash? Very funny. XD  Kaya paman Gober aja…
  
  The bull has been unleashed. Buy everything with Fundamentals, then sell on 
'May 08.
  
  Btw, saya merasa bukan day trader. Trader mungkin malah jualan hari ini.
  
  Regards,
  DE
  
  From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of Rei
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 8:22 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Good job, Bernanke.


  
In a buying mood already, Pak DE? Or still monitoring while sitting on a 
pile of cash?



Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

Well, it's nice to see everyone now happy…. Wew… 50bps on both fund 
and disc rate, now that's a breakthrough. I hope the *psychology* stays 
positive for a long time, well, until another bad news is blown up ;-) 

Good job, Bernanke. May good bless you with more hair.

Regards,

DE

Minyak naik, mudah-mudahan BBM nggak ikut naik.





  



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] BTEL ISAT *.)))

2007-09-19 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw


- Original Message 
From: Jack Cowok [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2007 8:08:30
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BTEL - S.O.N









  




S.O.N = Sell On News.
   
  They have nothing for this winning tender.
   
  My Opinion:
   
  Tender ini sangat tidak menarik bagi yang belum punya infrastruktur tidak 
memadai.
  Makanya beberapa peserta tender termasuk FREN mengundurkan diri.
  Kecuali yang sudah punya infrastuctur bagus sperti XL, costnya rendah, baru 
ada revenue.
   
  Bakrie, tetap nekad, dengan asumsi setelah menang, dengan nama besarnya Bakrie
  mereka dengan mudah bisa mendapatkan UTANGAN
  Atau kalau mau tega, mereka akan RIGHT ISSUE untuk mendapatkan dana murah.
   
  So I Think ( jangan di 'gugat' soalnya 'Emang gue pikirin')
   
  SELL BTEL.
   
  Target Price: Rp.300,-
   
   
  Salam Pikir
  JACK
 
  
   
   
   
   
 
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS - Climb Now, FOR WHAT ITS WORTH??, OCOY ngalor-ngidul..

2007-09-17 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
hi7x

- Original Message 
From: kang_ocoy_maen_saham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 17 September 2007 12:13:53
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS - Climb Now, FOR WHAT ITS WORTH??, OCOY 
ngalor-ngidul..









  



PGASS.. hehe.. BELI PGAS BALIK LAGI, BELI KARENA APA, BUAT APA??



ngeselin emang, turun ga dalem (dibawah 9000 sulit), naek juga ga

balik ke all-high nya dulu...



bener, jgn terlalu berharap, paling engga ga taun ini...

ato jangan dulu berharap bakal untung gede taun ini...



Grissik-Pagardewa baru 90%, emang sih, tapi bukannya kalo udah 100%

pun.. tetep kan harus nunggu yg paralel ke labuhan maringgai itu

dulu?... baru semua gas bisa ngalir ke jawa??

(kmaren dulu tuh kayanya ada orang PGAS deh di milis ini, bisa kasih

info ga kalo grissik-pagardewa ini udah 100% ntar sebelum nunggu

pagardewa-labuhan jadi si grissik-pagardewa ini aktivitasnya bakal

dipake apa aja, apa nyalurin ke pabrik2 sekitaran situ(ada ga), ato

cuman stand by nunggu pagardewa-labuhan aja??)



kalo grissik-dewa cuman standby aja kan ini sih masalah timetable aja,

ga ada revenue contribution (yet). soalnya mgkn kalo grissik dah beres

jadi kan preseden baik buat keseluruhan projek dan timetable yg mesti

dikejar, lagian dulu jg awalnya kan ni proyek molor juga mulainya, ya

selesai rada telat harusnya udah diantisipasi lah.. salahnya yah

kebanyakan orang dulu udah Price-in2, udah di discount2 aja dulu

(penyakit analis doyan growth...).. .



lah kalo grissik-pagardewa ontime ga ontime, ini kan masalah timetable

doank, kalo grissik jadi di oktober juga volume penjualan gas belon

bisa dinaekin banyak, ya palingan dijualnya ya baru selewatan daerah

itu aja kan, karena buat sampe ke banten kan harus nunggu yg paralel

itu dulu... lagian kalo molor ga oktober, lah ga gitu ngaruh juga..

okelah molor dari jadwal akhir oktober, jadi cuman baru 95%an

(kayanya), lah kalo udah segitu kan berarti tinggal molor 2-3

minggu... does it matter??, secara major sih engga engga banget sih,

cuman entar jatoh ke masalah pencitraan aja.. maksudnya yg

grissik-pagardewa ini juga palingan cuman jadi komoditi buat

memainkan pasar aja, (kalo ga beres sebelun akhir oktober, ntar

dipake buat nurunin, kalo ternyata 100% (dikebut), ntar dipake jadi

alesan naikkin.., nah tinggal kira2 momennya nih mo dikejar beres apa

ngga tuh yah.. hehe)



nah, kalo menurut saya mah balik lg letak preferensinya, beli PGAS krn

apa??



Beli PGAS krn REVENUE?? karena EPS taun ini dan depan yg diPV ke

tingkat skrg??



aah, aah... kayanya kurang deh.. hehe blon revenue contribute

signifikAN deh sebelum 2009... jadi ya kemahalan dehh, hehe, kalo DCF

dari 5 taunan mungkin deh, tp ya itu, saya seringnya ga sreg sama

perhitungan duit yg belon tentu di masa depan udah dipasti2in ajah..



taun ini volume belon akan naik banyak, emang sih volume naik.. tapi

proyeksi kenaikan harga jual gas kan barely cuman cukup buat nutup

capexnya dia doank (PGAS udah ga freecashflow, sisa capex dibiayain

pake financing).. .



nah trus beli PGAS krn apa donk??



hehe, krn candlenya panjang2 kali yah jadi enak buat trading...



ato... nah ini,



ato beli PGAS ya karena kita mo beli PGAS...

sama kaya kita beli mobil karena kita emang mo pake dan utility-kan

mobil itu.. beli asset lah gituh... jadi harganya mesti cocok sama apa

yg kita dapet kan..



BookValue memang rendah saat ini, kenapa?

ya iyalah, dalam neraca, asset PGAS kan :



Cash  Equivalents  2,452,464

Short Term Investments  119,911

Cash and Short Term Investments 2,572,375

Trade Accounts Receivable, Gross952,462

Provision for Doubtful Accounts -23,438

Trade Accounts Receivable, Net  929,024

Other Receivables   73,072

Total Receivables, Net  1,002,096

Total Inventory 22,388

Prepaid Expenses43,522

Other Curr. Assets, Total   103,364

Total Current Assets3,743,746

Buildings   163,259

Land/Improvements   306,787

Machinery/Equipment 9,974,856

Construction in Progress7,446,376

Property/Plant/ Equipment - Gross   17,891,278

Accumulated Depreciation-2,547,802

Property/Plant/ Equipment - Net 15,343,476

Intangibles, Net3,921

Note Rcvble - Long Term 121,269

Def. Inc. Tax - LT Asset81,010

Restricted Cash - LT--

Other Long Term Assets  2,420

Total Assets19,295,842



sementara :



Total Liabilities   13,533,097  



equity (book value) jadinya cuman : 5,762,745   

nah, 



yg perlu kita semua ketahuin sebagai investor adalah, bagaimana PGAS

membukukan assetnya?, jujur saya jg belon nanya en pengen nanya masih

belon2 aja nih... lagian masih bingung nanya gini boleh gak...



yg saya pengen tanya itu bagaimana PGAS mengakunkankan proyeknya ke

dalam neracanya, yg jelas kayanya sih bukan di accrued per bulan dari

total perkiraan proyek selesai...

cuman ini nih, saya perlu mastiin, 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: OPTION=SIN

2007-09-17 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
OPTION = SIN

- Original Message 
From: kicky_jkt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 17 September 2007 11:05:30
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: OPTION









  



Yoi itu MM yang isi.



Option yang di BEJ sekarang enggak jalan karena pake sistim Eropa. 

Gak liquid. Sistim Eropa itu hanya bisa di exercise sesudah masa 

kontrak habis.

BEJ mau ganti dengan sistim Amerika, jadi lebih liquid.

Kalo sistim Amerika lebih liquid dan terbukti lebih enak 

diperdagangkan.



--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 

 Rekans,

 

 BEJ sudah 2 tahun yg lalu membuka kemungkinan perdagangan optio.

 Tapi baru kemarin ada dua orang yang bersedia buka toko / gerai utk

 menjual option di BEJ

 Satu dari …. Kalo gak salah PT. Universal Broker Indonesia (Dealer

 Participants) dan satu lagi The Institute of Option

 Ada yang datang di seminar tersebut ??

 Ada yang bisa sharing pengalaman disini ??

 Thanks - Arie








  







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Re: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS!= !!.)))

2007-09-16 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
Denny, Do you remember ?
but today i want to sell

- Original Message 
From: Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2007 12:34:17
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS!= !!.)))









  






- Original Message 
From: dennyfebri [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.sg
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2007 10:39:09
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS!










suhu2 mau tanya dong, kira2 PGAS bisa sampe harga brapa yah naiknya?



thanks



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] WATCHOUT

2007-09-03 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
like my feelin'

- Original Message 
From: Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 3 September 2007 1:22:37
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] WATCHOUT









  












Rasanya sih nggak ada berita negatif di indo yah… tapi kok
feeling ku mengatakan harus jualan…well, gotta believe in myself…
aku nggak ngoyo kok cari cuan di bursa…  I got more than enough.
Moengkin yang kekeh ihsg bakal terbang adalah yang nyangkoet kali…
heheh.. well kalo terbang beneran, congrats deh. Keep on rockin’ boys n
girls.
 

  
 

For me, trading should be a fun thing to do. So, when it’s
not fun anymore, I prefer to set aside and rest for a moment, while enjoying my
profits (or studying my loss, if I made bad trades)
 

  
 

That’s how I do it. (Emang ada yang nanya yah…heheheh…
sharing aja kok)
 

  
 

Regards,
 

DE
 

  
 





From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com] On Behalf Of James Arifin

Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 12:39 PM

To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] WATCHOUT
 







  
 



mau dipentung mau nggak dipentung nggak penting, lihat aja
mana saham2 yang naik sekarang nggak masalah indeks mau kemana karena banyak
saham yang pergerakannya berbeda dengan indeks. Indeks naik, saham flat, indeks
turun ikutan turun. Ada juga yg indeks turun saham naik jadi sekarang nggak
perlu pusing2 dan berpatokan dengan indeks karena pada akhirnya BANDAR lagi
coba maintain untuk menguasai medan peperangan. Kali ini saham2 yang main TLKM,
INCO, BDMN, UNTR, ASII, PGAS. Semua big cap makanya cepat rebound. 
 






 
 






Kalau turun lagi yah BOW, kalau naik hold aja. Kalau nanam
aja perlu jeda waktu untuk panen, so sekarang mestinya time to invest



 
 






On 9/3/07, Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ gmail.com wrote:

 









Ok, I'm all cash. Istirahat dulu ah seminggu. Kalo
jadi dipentung ya sukur,

kalo nggak jadi ya bukan rejeki. Toh bursa masih buka minggu depan.



Regards,

DE




 
























  







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Re: [obrolan-bandar] 2 MR DE

2007-08-31 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
history ...when  lippo group jump/

the market will down 

How about you Mr DE ?

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From: Oskar Syahbana [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, 31 August 2007 12:10:37
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] DOW vs IHSG









  



Hehehe good joke mr dean. Emang kemarin itu dow memang enak untuk di

daytrade :-). Now will the bernanke speech make the bear loose more

than just a ball?? Heheh, we'll see



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Penjelasan bandarmologi (bertanya)

2007-08-20 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
Hi..hi..hi

- Original Message 
From: hilman anugraha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 19 August 2007 5:49:46
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Penjelasan bandarmologi (bertanya)









  




Pak Eka, Mbah, org org pintar sekalian.. para bandar yang baik...
   
  Mohon pencerahannya dari analisis mbah dibawah... karena walaupun 
penjelasannya udah cukup gamblang.. cuman saya masih belum bisa nangkep 
beberapa point

Eka Suwandana [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:
  Guys, embah ini memang jago baca pergerakan modal dan
ramalan index-nya. Salut saya dari jaman dulu telah
menyelamatkan portofolio saya dari pembunuhan. Thanx
mbahsaya kamis juga nggak CL samasekali tapi
sayangnya
 saya juga nggak buy banyak. 

 
 - Original Message 
 From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
 Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 5:45:12 PM
 Subject: [saham] Fwd: JUMAT: Hari PENJAGALAN
 TERAKHIR (analisa bandarmologi)
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com,
 jsx_consultant jsx-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. wrote:
 
 MERDEKA... MERDEKA MERDEKA...
 
 1. DASAR TEORI bandarmologinya yaitu:
 - JIKA para PENGUASA BURSA RUGI GEDE (LOKAL/GLOBAL)
 maka KERUGIAN 
 TSB akan DIPINDAHKAN pada COMMONER/TRADER/ Investor
 KECE/gembel2
 bursa).
 
 2. REASONING/LOGIKA teori DIATAS:
 - Dalam keadaan NORMAL, para PENGUASA BURSA selalu
 UNTUNG, karena

 mereka yg mengendalikan PERGERAKAN BURSA.
 (Controlable Market)
 - Tapi JIKA MEREKA RUGI GEDE karena suatu HAL, maka
 mereka akan
 melakukan LOSS TRANFER ke MARKET dengan cara:
 a. SELL OFF GEDE-GEDEAN, tentu ada yg beli yaitu
 para COMMONER.
 b. Harga otomatis TURUN, para COMMONER penggemar
 barang murah 
 akan BUY.
 c. JIKA BARANG sudah habis di DUMP, maka proses
 BUYBACK pada
 HARGA MURAH akan dilakukan. Jadi terjadi LOSS
 TRANFER dari
 YG GEDE ke YG KECIL.. right ?
 
  apa ini artinya keuntungan dari bandar adalah selisih harga antara commoner 
yang beli kecepetan pada saat lagi turun  ??
 
 Bagaimana CARANYA ?. (Anda sudah melihat langsung
 pada hari Kamis 
 di BEJ. Dan untuk bursa lainnya dilanjutkan hari
 Jumat ini).
 - Bursa dibuka LANGSUNG JEBLOK TANPA PERLU GUYUR

 barang,
 karena tujuannya bukan JUALAN tapi BUYBACK dari
 COMMONER
 yg MERUGI karena CUTLOSS.
 
  Ini yang saya nggak ngerti... gimana harga bisa turun tanpa ada guyuran 
barang dari bandar?? bagaimana mekanismenya ? apa mungkin bandar memainkan 
psikologi pasar aja?  Jadi commoner pada kecut dan terjadi panik.  kalo asumsi 
saya ini bener maka artinya total saham yang dimiliki commoner juga besar.
   
 Analisa bandarmologi yg embah LAKUKAN kemarin: 
 - mengCONFIRM kejadian INI yaitu BARANG YG DIJUAL
 oleh 
 PELAKU GEDE LOKAL dan ASING TIDAK MATERIAL alias 
 INSIGNIFICANT alias SEDIKIT BANGET dibanding
 penurunan
 index yg SEABREK-ABREK  
  Sekali lagi.. kok bisa yaa? bukannya kalo harga turun itu karena banyak yang 
ingin dijual ??
   
  Itulah alasan embah
 mem
 posting email SERBU BEJ (1900).
 
 Pada tahap BUYBACK, segala CARA akan dilakukan untuk
 membuat
 para INVESTOR TERI CUTLOSS sehingga PENGUASA BURSA
 bisa mem
 BUYBACK barang yg mereka LEPAS dulu diharga TINGGI
 pada tahap a.
 
  Artinya total keuntungan bandar adalah total CUT LOSS dari investor teri ?
  
 Untuk MENJAGAL trader ASIA hari ini (disaat DOW
 membentuk pola
 bagus HAMMER REVERSAL tadi malam), cara yg dilakukan
 WORLD 
 MARKET MAFIA hari ini sangat GILA. Yen DIGORENG 4%
 sehari terhadap 
 US. Akibatnya NIKKEI rontok karena export Jepan akan
 TURUN DRASTIS kalo YEN berada dilevel 112 saat ini
 (bulan 
 lalu 124).
 
 Rontoknya NIKKEI membuat bursa Asia lainnya ikut
 RONTOK tanpa
 PERLU MENGGUYUR BARANG kepasar. 
  Kalo Yen
 jadi lebih mahal, apa pengaruhya ke trader commoner?  Apakah karena USD jadi 
lebih murah dan kekuatannya berkurang untuk membeli saham  di pasar asia dan 
eropa ?   
  Fund Manager gede
 pasti TAU: 
 - ADALAH TIDAK MUNGKIN JUALAN dalm LOT GEDE dalam
 bursa 
 yg lagi PANIK.
 
 Jadi kalo ada yg bilang DOLLAR naik karena saham
 dijual 
 dan dibelikan dollar ITU ABSURD saat ini. Siapasih
 yang mau
 NUKAR saham pada harga SUPER MURAH dan beli US pada
 harga TINGGI.
 
 Semua mata uang dunia termasuk Rupiah MELEMAH
 terhadap dollar
 kecuali YEN yang naik terus sampai mencapai 112
 karena YEN
 yang bunganya NOL dipakai SUMBER MODAL buat
 SPEKULASI. Saat
 ini bursa lagi turun jadi FUND dalam bentuk YEN
 banyak yg
 kembali KANDANG, sehingga YEN naik terus disaat mata
 uang Asia

 lainnya MELEMAH TERUS. 
 
 Nah pada saat PANIK-PANIKNYA bursa dunia dengan
 trader/investor 
 yg sempoyongan LAGI dipaksa CUT-LOSS, SUPERBOZZ
 menggoreng 
 YEN 4% sehari untuk membuat world Carry Trade
 Spekulan yg 
 udah sempoyongan pusing mengembalikan YEN yg sudah
 mahal,
 MATI BERDIRI dibursa
 
 Yang OKE hari ini ialah:
 - Trader Indonesia karena bursanya tutup. Maunya sih
 embah
 SERBU BEJ hari ini Jumat karena bisa lebih murah.
 Tapi
 karena Super Market yg 

[obrolan-bandar] Re: TODAY LCY= I BUY ALL OF THE BLUE CHIP STOCK

2007-08-20 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
GOD...

Thank's for ALL 

YOU GIVE ME WAY.



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- Forwarded Message 
From: Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 16 August 2007 11:25:11
Subject: TODAY LCY= I BUY ALL OF THE BLUE CHIP STOCK

BUY when PEOPLE FEAR

It is an systematic risk.

26% in two weeks is good for me ...

BACK TO
 MARKET

ANTM
PGAS
BBRI
BMRI
BBNI
ANTM
TINS
ASII
INCO
TLKM
ISAT
PTBA
SMGR
etc


GOOD BLESS YOU

BEST REGARDS,

LCY



- Original Message 
From: James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 16 August 2007 10:58:33
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] 87 point lagi









  



tinggal 63point ke 1850, habis itu nggak tahu deh



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 akhirnya disebut angka kramat tersebut

 kalo gak salah, pernah disebut sebut beberapa waktu lalu





 - Original Message 

 From: James Arifin james.arifin@ gmail.com

 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

 Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 9:48:14 AM

 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] 87 point lagi









 tinggal tunggu 1850 aja nih dikit lagi kurang 50 point doang



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  kita genap -200 point dari kemarin... edan! Gain setahun lenyap

  seminggu :p

 

 







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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS!= !!.))). mr LCY GIMANA?

2007-08-07 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
hi...

 2 weeks ago. i came to indonesia n sold 1/2 my portfolio when dj 
14.000 n jci 2400
a systematic risk hit all

now  i try to select ... best one PGAS

PTBA... an analyst disturb. like..PGAS before
but now he buy PGAS ??? hi...

so i wait their commitment

For me i wait again ...at 5100

GOD BLESS YOU






- Original Message 
From: pemainedan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 8 August 2007 11:17:48
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS!= !!.))). mr LCY GIMANA?









  



Sudah boss gede, makanya kalo posting juga jarang2, kalo lg mood 

aja. PGAS sdh tinggal 5-6% dr target LCY. Cuma PTBA yg masih jauh... 

11000 vs. 5800 skr. 11000-nya kapan nih Mr. LCY (mudah2an dijawab).



--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, rofiq anwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. 

wrote:



 - Original Message 

 From: rofiq anwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..

 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

 Sent: Friday, August 3, 2007 9:29:03 AM

 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS!= !!.)))

 

 

 Hallo Boss Lee..

 Thank,s..atas recomentnya, saya ngikut Boss Lee untung terus.

 saya masih pegang PGAS beli di 9600 saya hold kata boss. Lee TP 

Rp.11000,-

 Infonya apa lagi Boss Lee ? . saya tunggu.. .

 thank,s. ...thank, s .thank,s. .

  

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS!= !!.)))

2007-08-01 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw


- Original Message 
From: dennyfebri [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2007 10:39:09
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS!









  



suhu2 mau tanya dong, kira2 PGAS bisa sampe harga brapa yah naiknya?



thanks



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUY_SIMAS GROUP_WAIT NEW CA_BUY ON THE FIRST RUMOR

2007-07-24 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
Hi...hi.hi..

Think likes BRPT...

BELIEVE IT OR NOT

GOD BLESS YOU

LCY

- Original Message 
From: Bonardo Paruntungan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 20 July 2007 3:17:59
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUY_SIMAS GROUP_WAIT NEW CA_BUY ON THE FIRST 
RUMOR









  



maaf pak oen..

berarti masih ditangan dia aj dong itu saham



--- oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:



 Mr Dean...

 

 Khusus untuk SMMA ini BDnya beda dengan yg bermain

 di INKP dan TKIM

 Ini BD yg SAMA menggerakkan MLPL, TRST, IGAR, MLPL,

 ADMF, ADMG dll

 dalam beberapa hari ini.

 Dengan TEKNIK yg SAMA

 VOLUME BESAR? Itu karena mereka berhasil MENGANGKAT

 HARGA kemudian 

 MENURUNKANnya SEKALIAN NGESOTnya...

 

 Utk Simas groups dilanda rumor right issue...gimana

 Mr. Lee?

 Apakah mau kayak BRPT?

 

 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Dean

 Earwicker 

 dean.earwicker@ ... wrote:

 

  SMMA?

  

   

  

  Fact:

  

  It plunged down to -6.32% today with quite big

 volume. 

  

   

  

   

  

  Regards,

  

  DE

  

   

  

  From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

 [mailto:obrolan-

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com]

  On Behalf Of Lee Cwan Yeuw

  Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:08 AM

  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BUY_SIMAS GROUP_WAIT NEW

 CA_BUY ON THE 

 FIRST RUMOR

  

   

  

  BELIEVE IT OR NOT !!!

 

 

 

 



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] SMGR INCO

2007-07-16 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
Thank's ...Mr BOEN...to follow me...get more gain

SMGR ...HOLD...

Always invest in blue chip...
My friends (foreigners) will have been  investing in blue chip
You can cat JSX

INCO. good company  big company
influence of NI price.
...for me 32.000 is support level of NI price. 
It is time to collect.

They asked me  How about the other giant (INKPTKIM) ?

When they asked me about BRPT... i suggested them to enter (900-1000)...they 
got profit although using nominee. (you can see  my email before)

It suggest ...for you. 
About TKIM  INKP time will tell 2 u. 
4 me... IT's BETTER TO BUY  TKIM..
Info...TKIM will buy...PT Industri SODA (a state owned company)

2 be RICH.Follow the RICH... 

GOD BLESS YOU

BEST REGARDS,

LCY






- Original Message 
From: Aria Bela Nusa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2007 5:55:22
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] SMGR  INCO









  














Saya kira masih belon sepenuhnya tercapai (masih
terus begitu sampai akhir bulan Juli ini)– antara keduanya masih divergence…
 

  
 

Happy chuan,
 

  
 

Aria
 

  
 










From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
com ] On Behalf Of Mr. Boen

Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 7:31
PM

To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: [obrolan-bandar] SMGR
 INCO
 




  
 







Target
Perdana Menteri Singapore 
telah tercapai ..



bravo LCY .. ada info apa lagi nih.



trus SMGR dihold atau di switch dulu PM. LCY ? 



regards.
 
















  







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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: For OPPORTUNIST: Short BUY BACK

2007-07-13 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
Indonesian ...fear... the day   number...only
In fact

Friday 13th 2007 = 130707 = 18 = GOOD NUMBER = BO CWAN

TLKM  sorry please buy back.. in the sky

GOD BLESS YOU.


BEST REGARDS,

LCY





- Original Message 
From: James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 13 July 2007 12:04:07
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: For OPPORTUNIST: Short saham tambang (IHSG 
+33)









  



Market expectation sih boleh2 aja turun tapi selama rombongan Bung

Laksono nggak mau yah dianalisa gimana juga yah siap salah.



On 7/13/07, Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ gmail.com wrote:



















 I was thinking:



 Indeks naik tapi (ekspektasi) market turun. TLKM jadi last resort, yang pada

 akhirnya akan meletus juga, someday.











 Regards,



 DE



















 From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
 com]

 On Behalf Of gambler

  Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 11:42 AM

  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: For OPPORTUNIST: Short saham tambang

 (IHSG +33)













 Kalo trader kecil yg coba mentung tapi ketinggian pentungannya di

  kategorikan yg mana nih?



  hehehe

  ...

  - Original Message -

  From: Snoopy app [EMAIL PROTECTED] com

  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

  Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 11:28 AM

  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: For OPPORTUNIST: Short saham tambang

 (IHSG

  +33)



   Wow keren...kira saya dimana yah?

   kayany di trader kecil yg kena pentung nih...nasib. .nasib... .

   - Original Message -

   From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id

   To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

   Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 11:16 AM

   Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: For OPPORTUNIST: Short saham tambang (IHSG

   +33)

  

  

   Jangan terlalu berharap embah bisa tau index mau naik atau turun,

   OMONG KOSONG kalo embah bisa ngeramalin index

  

   Tapi kalo case PAGI INI, ini TEORInya:

  

   Pelaku pasar bisa digolongkan menjadi beberapa golongan:

   - Golongan pertama ialah golongan pak Laksono yaitu golongan

   PROFESIONAL yang punya ACCESS INFO yang relatif bagus.

   Mereka punya info dan REASON YG KUAT bahwa index dan saham

   saham yg mereka punya , harganya masih akan naik.

   Golongan profesional ini sering punya DANA GEDE dibelakang

   nya (ngelola dana gede)

   - Golongan Market Maker, umumnya mereka adalah BROKER

   yg mencari untung dari gerakan harian, jadi YG mentung

   di IHSG +33 bukanlah embah tapi para Profesioanal yg

   kerja dibursa. Dan kelompok inilah yang MEMBIDANI IHSG

   dibuka langsung +23 naek ke +33 untuk DIGEBUK.

   - Golongan NON PROF, golongan ini termasuk trader KECIL yg umumnya

   bukan fundamentalis (KURANG INFO), jadi mereka bermain

   berdasarkan MOMENTUM. Ketika pasar OPEN TINGGI, mereka ikut

   main dan DIPENTUNG ama para Profesional MM...

  

   Tapi INI CUMAN PENTUNGAN HARIAN, para MM ini mungkin saja

   punya prediksi index masih naik, tapi karena mereka engga

   bisa BUY pagi ini akibat dari DJI NAIK TINNGI, maka mereka

   bikin PENTUNGAN di IHSG +33 supaya masih bisa dapet COAN

   hari ini...

  

   Apa yang akan dilakukan para MM besok atau sore ini, CUMAN

   MEREKA yg tau

  

  

   --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Rei highwaystar91@ ... wrote:

  

   jadi sebetulnya anjuran Mbah ini short atau nggak? Saya pengen

   belajar aja Mbah, punya fasilitas short juga nggak koq...lain dgn bos

   James

   Atau hanya short saham2 tambang? Jangan melawan arus jadi

   berarti market masih terus naik. Bingung...

  

   James Arifin james.arifin@ ... wrote:

   Kalau SHORT sudah gain yah ambil lah gainnya daripada

   kena squeeze Dow

   future sudah di 13900an

  

   On 7/13/07, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... wrote:

   

   

   

   

   

   

Jangan TERLALU YAKIN DENGAN DIRI SENDIRI, just follow the market,

we are NOT the market, WE ARE JUST FOLLOWER...

   

DJI menembus RESISTnya dengan KUAT 

   

Jadi HATI HATI maen ngeshort melawan ARUS !!!

   

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Rei highwaystar91@  wrote:



 Mbah memang hebat dah, jadi sptnya memang bull trap ya mbah.

 siap2 nyungsep dong...



 James Arifin james.arifin@  wrote:

 sekarang tinggal 2322 ... MBAH emang emoy



 On 7/13/07, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@  wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, James Arifin

  james.arifin@  wrote:

  

   Mbah nggak ngitungin banking tuh

  

   BMRI -75

   BBRI - 50

  

   tambah sendiri yg lainnya

  

   On 7/13/07, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@  wrote:

   

   

   

   

   

   

9:49

   

IHSG +28

   

Tambah lagi

- PGAS -100 from HIGH

- AALI -200

  

[obrolan-bandar] Nickel Forecast Raised by Credit Suisse on Stainless Steel Use

2007-07-13 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
Nickel Forecast Raised by Credit Suisse on Stainless Steel Use 
   

By Jae Hur
  
   

(Bloomberg) -- Nickel cash prices may average
higher than forecast this year as stainless steelmakers resume
purchases, Credit Suisse Group said.  

Nickel may average $17.97 a pound ($39,617 a metric ton),
up from a previous estimate of $15, analysts including Jeremy
Gray at the bank said in a July 6 report. The metal has averaged
$19.91 so far this year.  

Spot nickel has fallen 40 percent from a record in May as
stainless steel producers used less nickel or cut output. Credit
Suisse expects nickel prices to rise in the fourth quarter.  

``We estimate global stainless steel output to increase
approximately 5 percent in 2007 and 6.6 percent in 2008,'' the
analysts said. They expect nickel demand to gain next year on
increased usage in batteries and the aerospace industry.  

Nickel for immediate delivery fell $1,750, or 5.1 percent,
to end at $32,805 a ton yesterday. The price reached the record
in May as stockpiles plunged to an amount equal to less than two
days of global consumption following strong demand in China.  

Credit Suisse also raised its 2008 nickel forecast by 36
percent to $15, 2009 by 38 percent to $11 and 2010 by 33 percent
to $8. These compare with estimates by Jon Bergtheil, head of
global metals strategy at JPMorgan Securities Ltd., made on July
8, for $17.95 pound in 2007, $12.48 in 2008, $8.51 in 2009 and
$6.45 in 2010.  

``We estimate a finely balanced nickel market through until
2009, with marginal surplus supply (of) refined nickel estimated
at 1 percent of global consumption in 2007-2008,'' the analysts
said.  

To contact the reporter on this story:
Jae Hur in Singapore at 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   



  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUY BACK USE YOUR MARGIN FACILITY = TIME TO BUY BC

2007-07-12 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
TLKM
ISAT
BMRI
BBRI
ANTM
PGAS
SMGR
TINS
PTBA
ASII
AALI
INCO



- Original Message 
From: Aria Bela Nusa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 13 July 2007 6:38:10
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] LET'S MOVE-ON UP-NEXT, BOZZ - IT'S YOUR 
RIGHT-TIME...UP, UP  AWAY









  












Market Overview  


 


 


 
  
   
   Symbol
 
   
   
   Last
 
   
   
   Change
 
   
  
 
 
  
  Dow
 
  
  
  13,861.73

 
  
  
  283.86 (2.09%)

 
  
 
 
  
  Nasdaq
 
  
  
  2,701.73

 
  
  
  49.94 (1.88%)

 
  
 
 
  
  SP
  500
 
  
  
  1,547.70

 
  
  
  28.94 (1.91%)

 
  
 
 
  
  10-Yr
  Bond
 
  
  
  5.12% 

 
  
  
  0.04

 
  
 
 
  
  NYSE
  Volume
 
  
  
  3,508,328,000

 
  
 
 
  
  Nasdaq
  Volume
 
  
  
  2,274,734,000

 
  
 


Indices: US
- World
| Most
Actives 
 

Advances
 Declines 


 
  
   

 
   
   
   NYSE
 
   
   
   NASDAQ
 
   
  
 
 
  
  Advances
 
  
  
  2,371 (71%) 
 
  
  
  2,186 (68%) 
 
  
 
 
  
  Declines
 
  
  
  880 (26%) 
 
  
  
  877 (27%) 
 
  
 
 
  
  Unchanged
 
  
  
  108 (3%) 
 
  
  
  132 (4%) 
 
  
 
 
  
  Up Vol*
 
  
  
  3,031 (86%) 
 
  
  
  1,915 (84%) 
 
  
 
 
  
  Down Vol*
 
  
  
  452 (13%) 
 
  
  
  318 (14%) 
 
  
 
 
  
  Unch. Vol*
 
  
  
  26 (1%) 
 
  
  
  41 (2%) 
 
  
 
 
  
  New Hi's
 
  
  
  323
 
  
  
  254
 
  
 
 
  
  New Lo's
 
  
  
  86
 
  
  
  76
 
  
 


*in millions
 

 
 




 
  
  Market
  Update 
  
  

 
  
 












4:20 pm : The Dow logged its first
gain of more than 200-points since July 19, 2006 and its best one-day
performance since March 2003 in route to its latest record finish.
The SP 500 also closed at a new all-time
high while the Nasdaq hit its best levels in
6 1/2 years.
 

Another
day of MA, which included a blockbuster deal, kicked things off on a
positive note as stocks rallied right out of the gate.
 

A better
than feared batch of monthly retail sales results was also an influential
catalyst, sparking a relief rally that forced shorts sellers to run for cover.
 

Of the
147 SP industry groups, 138 posted
gains. Aluminum (+6.7%) was the day's biggest winner after Rio Tinto's (RTP 
318.04 -6.38)
white-knight bid for Alcan (AL 98.34 8.74)
increased the likelihood that Alcoa (AA 45.24 +2.81) will
also garner a hefty takeover premium should it fail to outbid Rio Tinto. The
proposed $38.1 bln deal represents a 33% premium to Alcoa's hostile bid of $76
per share. 
 

Continued
takeover activity in Materials, which supports our Overweight rating on the
space, left it as the day's best performing sector (+2.7%) for a second
straight day.
 

Not only
did all 10 sectors finish to the upside, but the more heavily-weighted areas in
the SP 500 were also among today's biggest winners.
 

The
Financial sector (+2.2%) was the most influential gainer.
The convincing return of its leadership removed one of the market's only
hurdles up to this point and helped clear the way for the SP 500 to reach
new heights.
 

With so
many on Wall Street also concerned of late
about the health of the consumer, last month's same-store sales results
checking in better than feared also
 

  
 









  







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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: For OPPORTUNIST: NEVER SHORT THE TREND

2007-07-12 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
Good reasons.

Shorting the trend refers to sell short when new high is reached in the stock 
market, or, in an individual stock, when the trend has been definitely upward. 
The investor is making a large gamble that the market will turn and decline.

The market and the stock might turn or not turn. The fact is stocks tend to 
move as a group, and trens tend to continue until thy make a significant turn 
and begin a trend in the opposite direction. It can be futile and costly to 
attemp to short a stock  at the TOP. This top might be the beginning of a 
takeover attempt which could be disastrous to a short position.

Often, the best time to short is soon after a significant turn in the market 
or, after an individiual stock experiences bad news.

OK.

GOD BLESS YOU.

BEST REGARDS,

LCY

- Original Message 
From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 13 July 2007 10:36:05
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: For OPPORTUNIST: Short saham tambang (IHSG +33)









  



Jangan TERLALU YAKIN DENGAN DIRI SENDIRI, just follow the market,

we are NOT the market, WE ARE JUST FOLLOWER...



DJI menembus RESISTnya dengan KUAT 



Jadi HATI HATI maen ngeshort melawan ARUS !!!



--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Rei highwaystar91@ ... wrote:



 Mbah memang hebat dah, jadi sptnya memang bull trap ya mbah.

   siap2 nyungsep dong...

 

 James Arifin james.arifin@ ... wrote:

   sekarang tinggal 2322 ... MBAH emang emoy

 

 On 7/13/07, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, James Arifin

  james.arifin@  wrote:

  

   Mbah nggak ngitungin banking tuh

  

   BMRI -75

   BBRI - 50

  

   tambah sendiri yg lainnya

  

   On 7/13/07, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@  wrote:

   

   

   

   

   

   

9:49

   

IHSG +28

   

Tambah lagi

- PGAS -100 from HIGH

- AALI -200

- BUMI -50

   

   

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx-

consultant@ wrote:



 9:43



 IHSG +29



 INCO -1150 from HIGH

 PTBA -100

 ANTM -50

 TINS -50



 Kita liat mana yg untung hari ini, yg ngeshort atau yg

  ngelong ?



 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant 

jsx-

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  Let's make FRIDAY THETHIRTEEN the lucky number

 



   

   

   

   

   

  

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

  

 

  

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Hal: ANTM setelah SS

2007-07-11 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
 I'm sorry

I don't send virus Sir...

I don't know why?

I inform that NI price ... up +-3%
Today I hope... ANTM + 3%

GBU

BR,


LCY



- Original Message 
From: highwaystar91 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 12 July 2007 8:41:54
Subject: Hal: ANTM setelah SS Re: Hal: Fw: [obrolan-bandar] MASA









  



Betul pak, harga nickel naik semoga itu yg spt beberapa member di 

sini posting bahwa support Ni di $32000...takutnya cuma profit 

taking sesaat sblm turun lebih dalam lagi. Saya mengharapkan hal tsb 

tidak terjadi dan antm nge-joss hari ini dgn harga barunya di 2650.



--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Sutikno Tikno [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. 

wrote:



 Pak Oentoeng, sy ucapkan terima kasih atas pencercahan hal ANTM

 tp bukanya td malam di CNBC harga nikel ada naik disamping harga

 stl SS udah ckp rendah smg dapat sbg dorongan untuk naikin price

 ANTM, skli lg tank bert Pak Oentoeng 

 

 

 - Pesan Asli 

 Dari: highwaystar91 highwaystar91@ ...

 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

 Terkirim: Rabu, 11 Juli, 2007 6:06:12

 Topik: ANTM setelah SS Re: Hal: Fw: [obrolan-bandar] MASA

 

 Excellent analysis, pak Oentoeng...saya rasa benar juga kata Pak 

Eka 

 bahwa saham ini akan sideways lama sekali. Kita harapkan dengan 

 murahnya harga antm besok, akan sedikit mengundang investor2 baru 

yg 

 masih percaya kebutuhan nickel akan kuat still.

 

 

 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, oentoeng_q 

oentoeng_q@ ... 

 wrote:

 

  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Sutikno Tikno 

gempurleo@ 

  wrote:

  

   Pak Oentoeng mhn pencercahan antm setelah SS donk

   tank berat sebelumnya

  

  Sebenarnya kondisi ANTM saat ini dengan kondisi nikel yg terus 

 MLOROT 

  cukup memprihatinkan.

  Karena saya tahu BANYAK pihak yg MATI2an MEMPERTAHANKAN agar 

ANTM 

  tidak TERPEROSOK lebih DALAM.

  Tujuannya untuk menjaga NAB PORTFOLIO mereka.

  Secara teknikal sementara ini khan SIDEWAYS itu sudah lumayan 

sbg 

  HASILnya.

  

  Bicara ANTM setelah SS, mudahnya setelah kondisi MEMBAIK banyak 

 pemain 

  besar berharap ANTM menuju ke 5000.

  Tapi untuk SAAT INI kalau mau ke utara ALASANNYA apa?

  - Bicara kinerja sudah banyak yg tahu

  - Bicara proyek2, belum ada yg BARU.

  - Harga komoditas belum kembali ke all time high.

  - dst.

  Sekali lagi untuk menggerakkan saham perlu fundamentally 

SPEAKING 

  kalau bisa dibarengi SENTIMEN.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   

   

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Pak Sudes, ANTM, INCO, TINS....Re: IRC akan beri nilai tambah USD 8 Milyar

2007-07-10 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
MR SUDES = HONEST
HONEST = EHRLIECHEIT WAHRT AM LANGSTEN

CEN JIN BU PHA HUO = ANTM

BEST REGARDS,

LCY

- Original Message 
From: Sudeswanto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2007 1:47:15
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Pak Sudes, ANTM, INCO, TINSRe: IRC akan beri 
nilai tambah USD 8 Milyar









  







teknikal suka dilawan bandar...dan mudah bagi bandar 
untuk mempermainkan teknikal harian...

mendingan pake fundamental aja, asalkan pondasi kuat, 
biar terkena badai dan gempa, akan tetap kuat

seperti kata pepatah : cen jin bu pha huo (emas murni 
tidak takut api)

emas 
murni biar dibakar oleh api, tetep aja emas... ^^

 


  -Original Message-
From: jsx_consultant 
  [mailto:jsx- consultant@ centrin.net. id]
Sent: 10 Juli 2007 
  13:31
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: 
  [obrolan-bandar] Pak Sudes, ANTM, INCO, TINSRe: IRC akan beri nilai 
tambah 
  USD 8 Milyar



  
  Pak Sudes, anda sudah lama engga kirim grafik tehnikal. 
  Seringnya
sekarang anda mengirim analisa fundamental.

Bagaimana 
  tehnikal untuk saham GACOAN anda yaitu ANTM, INCO 
dan TINS ?

--- In 
  obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, 
  Sudeswanto 
samsudesyang@ ... wrote:

 
 
  
 
 IQP, (10/7) - Rencana pembentukan perusahaan induk 
  
pertambangan (Indonesian
 Resources Company--IRC) diperkirakan akan 
  menimbulkan nilai tambah 
sebesar
 US$8
 miliar.Menneg BUMN 
  Sofyan A. Djalil mengatakan selasa melalui 
penambahan
 
  nilai
 tambah ini, perusahaan induk pertambangan tersebut mempunyai 
  
kapasitas
 berutang
 sebesar US$10 miliar.Nantinya 
  perusahaan ini akan sebesar ISP 
Bretton dan
 akan
 mampu 
  menggelar akuisisi perusahaan pertambangan,  ujarnya.Dia 
  
menuturkan
 terdapat
 empat perusahaan pertambangan yang 
  telah dipastikan masuk dalam 
IRC, yaitu
 PT
 Aneka Tambang 
  Tbk, PT Tambang Batubara Bukit Asam Tbk, PT Tambang 
Timah Tbk,
 
  dan
 PT Freeport Indonesia.
 
 Best Regards,
 
  
 SAMUEL SUDESWANTO YEUNG
 (http://samsudesyang .blogs.friendste r.com/sudeswanto /)
 
  RESEARCH DEPARTMENT
 
 PT SINARMAS SEKURITAS
 GEDUNG 
  PLAZA BII MENARA III
 Jl.M.H.Thamrin No.51
 Telp : 62-21-3925550 
  ext.159
 Fax : 62-21-3925579
 
 DISCLAIMER :
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  material is issued by PT Sinarmas Sekuritas, a member of the 
  
Jakarta
 and Surabaya Stock Exchanges, represent the opinion of PT 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] BMRI OK!!! ANTM .......

2007-07-10 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
BMRI-2425...Tuesday, 10 July 2007 12:48:56
BMRI-2525...Tuesday, 10 July 2007 14:40:56

ANTM-  BE PATIENCE...

- Original Message 
From: Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2007 12:48:56
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM _FOR JOSIA,DERA AYU,JAMEEN,FETR etc









  




BMRI = GOOD COMPANY = BIG COMPANY
TIME TOLD YOU.

MY GURU, 

PETER DRUCKER = 
GET GOOD or GET OUT

WARREN BUFFETT = 
YOU 'RE RIGHT NOT BECAUSE OTHERS AGREE WITH YOU, BUT BECAUSE YOUR FACTS ARE 
RIGHT.

IT IS ALSO ANTM
GET GOOD OR GET OUT

GET GOOD
BUY AND KEEP


BEST REGARDS,


LCY




BMRI gimana Mr?...Re: [obrolan-bandar] ASII = 21000, PTBA=UNTR
Re: BMRI gimana Mr?...Re: [obrolan-bandar] ASII = 21000, PTBA=UNTR 


 

iya nih, mana sarannya ga pake
disclaimer taik kucing (Mengutip pendapat salah satu anggota milis OB)
dan juga ga pake taruhan ludah ((Mengutip pendapat salah satu anggota
milis OB juga)

 

Sukses Om PM Singapure :D

 

 


- Original Message - 

From: dera ayu 

To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 

Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 1:21 PM

Subject: BMRI gimana Mr?...Re: [obrolan-bandar] ASII = 21000, PTBA=UNTR







Wah ada pendatang baru yg OCe punya nih ,

 

Kalo BMRI target anda brp Mr ?, apakah lbh baik sell dn switch ke PTBA /ASII ?






 
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] BMRI OK!!! ANTM .......

2007-07-10 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
DEPEND ON .. 

BUT  I HOPE
BBRI.=BDMN

I MUST MEET MY SPY BEFORE ACTION.


BEST REGARDS,

LCY


- Original Message 
From: Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2007 2:56:50
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] BMRI OK!!! ANTM ...









  












Kalau BBRI gimana pak LCW? I have some. Asset memang lebih besar
Mandiri, tapi kalau rating (dari InfoBank) BBRI punya score lebih tinggi.
 

  
 

Regards,
 

DE
 

  
 





From:
obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com] On
Behalf Of Lee Cwan Yeuw

Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 2:43 PM

To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BMRI OK!!! ANTM ...
 







  
 











BMRI-2425... Tuesday, 10 July
2007 12:48:56

BMRI-2525... Tuesday, 10 July 2007 14:40:56



ANTM-  BE PATIENCE...
 
























  







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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG...BUY WHEN THERE IS BLOOD IN THE STREETS

2007-07-10 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
Don't worry...

See on BLOOMBERG

Ni...spot 10:00:45
Highest 15/05/0754.050
Now 11/07/0732.085
Minus  21.245
Almost 40% for 2 months
Support level for Ni ...  32.000

It is TIME TO BUY...

Also ANTM  INCO

Remember...

BUY WHEN THERE IS BLOOD IN THE STREETS

GBU

BEST REGARDS,

LCY

- Original Message 
From: highwaystar91 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 11 July 2007 9:37:22
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG Today.









  



Betul, ini memang hrs koreksi. Yg buat saya panik adalah harga Ni 
yg 

anjlok terus... Beli apa ya today? :)



--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Dean Earwicker 

dean.earwicker@ ... wrote:



 Tapi jangan panik loh, ini koreksi sehat. Tidak ada faktor negatif 

di dalam

 negeri. Ini justru kesempatan buat mereka yang merasa ketinggalan 

kereta.

 

  

 

 Ingat-ingat penguasa BUMI. 

 

  

 

 Regards,

 

 DE

 

  

 

 From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-

[EMAIL PROTECTED] com]

 On Behalf Of James Arifin

 Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 9:23 AM

 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG Today.

 

  

 

 bukan cuma kena imbas malah bisa turun dalam masak naik terus 

tanpa koreksi

 

 On 7/11/07, Reiza Afriansyah [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 mailto:reiza% 40bniaga. co.id  wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  Wah hari ini regional minus semua gara2 DJIA turun 1.09%.

 

  So, kayaknya mungkin hari ini IHSG kena imbas juga deh.

 








  







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Re: [obrolan-bandar] AFTER SPLIT_ ANTM=PTBA_ LCY TARGET

2007-07-09 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
be patience


- Original Message 
From: Bandar A [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 9 July 2007 12:48:07
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] AFTER SPLIT_ ANTM=PTBA_ LCY TARGET









  



And the reason for PE_ ANTM =PE_PTBA is?



On 7/9/07, Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.sg wrote:



NOW..PE_ANTM +- 6  PE_ PTBA +_ 20

IF.. PE_ ANTM =PE_PTBA
ANTM= PTBA
21.000 =7000

SO TP ANTM_AFTER SPLIT
21.000/5 = 4200

NOW 14.000/5 = 2800

28004200 = 50%


HOW ABOUT YOU ?

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: AFTER SPLIT_ ANTM=PTBA_ LCY TARGET

2007-07-09 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
good reason.

From MY GURU
BUY  THE STOCK THAT SPLITS

SUCCESS STORY INCO

200334.900
2007  240.000  (60.000x4)
GAIN = +- 700 % (in 3 years)
DIVIDEND = ...
TOT RETURN= 


This is obviously the sound of happy investor. Stock splits are good news and 
the price will often the continue to increase, given time. Even though this is 
often  the case it is not always happens; the price does not have to increase 
and not all stock splits end up being positive.

Every so often the positive stock split story heard. It might be at a cocktail 
party or business lunch. Such a story will invariably hold the attention of the 
listeners. Many sincerely wish they had bought the stock a year ago, when the 
price was more reasonable.

The splits increase the number of shares outstanding, thereby increasing the 
liquidity of the stock and they lower the price per share of the stock.

The lowering of the price makes the stock more affordable to investors.

INCO (and others)  tell  us 

ANTMTime will tell .

BEST REGARDS,


LCY


- Original Message 
From: bernanke20551 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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[obrolan-bandar] ANTM _FOR JOSIA,DERA AYU,JAMEEN,FETR etc

2007-07-09 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
BMRI = GOOD COMPANY = BIG COMPANY
TIME TOLD YOU.

MY GURU, 

PETER DRUCKER = 
GET GOOD or GET OUT

WARREN BUFFETT = 
YOU 'RE RIGHT NOT BECAUSE OTHERS AGREE WITH YOU, BUT BECAUSE YOUR FACTS ARE 
RIGHT.

IT IS ALSO ANTM
GET GOOD OR GET OUT

GET GOOD
BUY AND KEEP


BEST REGARDS,


LCY




BMRI gimana Mr?...Re: [obrolan-bandar] ASII = 21000, PTBA=UNTR
Re: BMRI gimana Mr?...Re: [obrolan-bandar] ASII = 21000, PTBA=UNTR 


 

iya nih, mana sarannya ga pake
disclaimer taik kucing (Mengutip pendapat salah satu anggota milis OB)
dan juga ga pake taruhan ludah ((Mengutip pendapat salah satu anggota
milis OB juga)

 

Sukses Om PM Singapure :D

 

 


- Original Message - 

From: dera ayu 

To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 1:21 PM

Subject: BMRI gimana Mr?...Re: [obrolan-bandar] ASII = 21000, PTBA=UNTR







Wah ada pendatang baru yg OCe punya nih ,

 

Kalo BMRI target anda brp Mr ?, apakah lbh baik sell dn switch ke PTBA /ASII ?






  
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[obrolan-bandar] AFTER SPLIT_ ANTM=PTBA_ LCY TARGET

2007-07-08 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
NOW..PE_ANTM +- 6  PE_ PTBA +_ 20

IF.. PE_ ANTM =PE_PTBA
ANTM= PTBA
21.000 =7000

SO TP ANTM_AFTER SPLIT
21.000/5 = 4200

NOW 14.000/5 = 2800

28004200 = 50%

HOW ABOUT YOU ?

BEST REGARDS,

LCY





  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INKP TKIM SMMA

2007-07-03 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
HOW ABOUT TKIM   SMMA ?

SIMAS GROUP IS NOT  MY PORTFOLIO, BUT... RUMORS... ROAD SHOW ... WILL HELP US 
TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THEIR CORP. ACT.

GIVE US INFORMATION ABOUT... THEIR  CORP.ACT.

REGARDS,

LCY
- Original Message 
From: rebound_ing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2007 11:24:45
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INKP









  



iya saya dapat beritanya INKP mau road show. 



--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Tasrul Tanar [EMAIL PROTECTED] . 
wrote:



 Gak sempat bikin ceritanya... ada peluang untuk naik..

 

 





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[obrolan-bandar] Re: SMGR =SEHAT_MATANG_GEDE_RESIKINCO=*).)))

2007-06-29 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
HOW ABOUT YOU ?

- Original Message 
From: Daniel Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: leecwan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 29 June 2007 11:35:42
Subject: RE: SMGR =SEHAT_MATANG_GEDE_RESIKINCO=*).)))

Siap laksanakan

Many thx suhu
DW

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
leecwan
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 10:59 AM
To: Daniel Wong
Subject: SMGR =SEHAT_MATANG_GEDE_RESIKINCO=*).)))

TO :
Daniel
Pussyimoet
Feter
Jameen
Andree
and all my follower



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Daniel Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kang...
 
 Belom tau kapan cum datenya yah tuh SS?
 
  
 
 Thx
 
 DW
 
  
 
   _  
 
 From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of pipen
 Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 3:27 PM
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SMGR
 
  
 
 ok..trus kira2 kapan Kang saham dengan harga hasil stok split
 diperdagangkan? udah ada infonya? tks
 
  
 
 pipen boy
 
 - Original Message - 
 
 From: kang_ocoy_maen_ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] saham 
 
 To: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com 
 
 Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 3:18 PM
 
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SMGR
 
  
 
 
 Yg Rp 1000 itu devidennya pak, dengan DPR 50% dari laba bersih 2006
 
 kalo harga stock split ya memang dibagi 10 aja ke harga sekarang,
 mereka mo ningkatin nilai equitynya, makanya stock split dilakukan,
 supaya rame en harga bisa cepet naek, jadinya ntar buat penyusunan
 struktur modal(mereka mo minjem en nyari pendanaan buat pabrik) equity
 rationya bisa lebih bagusan.. 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
 yahoogroups.com, pipen pipenboy@ wrote:
 
  Kang ocoy...saham SMGR terakhir sekitar Rp 48rb-an/lembar..kalau
 di stock split 1:10 bukannya harga jadi sekitar Rp 4800/lembar?
CMIIW.
  
  pipen boy
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: kang_ocoy_maen_saham 
  To: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
 yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 2:41 PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] SMGR
  
  
  Kang Ocoy baru dr rups smgr
  
  stock split 1 : 10
  
  DPR 50%
  
  kira2 mungkin Rp 1000 rupiah per saham
  
  growth 29% YoY
  
  Efisiensi bertambah
  
  utilisasi hampir full
  
  rencana corporate action :
  
  pembentukan Holding untuk keperluan efisiensi
  
  pembangunan pabrik baru 2 selesai 2011
  
  pembangunan 2 powerplant 65 MW
  
  kang ocoy ngeliatnya pertumbuhan yg bagus, bisa sustain 20% pertahun,
  
  hanya ada kekhawatiran tahun 2008-2010 perusahaan bakal kehilangan
  kesempatan buat dapet untung dr kenaikan permintaan semen, karena
  sudah utilisasi full..
  
  tapi kata Direksi existing plant bisa diupgrade dan dengan pemerintah
  neken supaya holding cepet dijadiin, mungkin efisiensi bisa
 meningkat..
  
  mudah2an growth 20% bisa sustain menjelang 2011(saat kapasitas baru
  terpasang)
 












  
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] NICKELS REG.VS(SUPPLYDEMAND)

2007-06-07 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
I agree with you...

I.

THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT REG.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SUPPLY  DEMAND

I THINK... 
INVESTOR  SEE... SUPPLY  DEMAND 
SPECULATOR SEE REG.. AS RUMOR

II.

I HEARD FROM MY FRIEND...

IF JCI. DOWN
INVESTOR BUY ...  EQUITY UNIT LINK..

YOU CAN ASK... SOME OF LIFE INSURANCE

AND THEY ONLY BUY... BC  GC STOCK (+_ 15-20 STOCKS)

SO IT IS TIME FOR THEM TO BUY AT LOWER PRICE

III.

I THINK THE WINNER IS SUPPLY  DEMAND SIDE.. NOT REG.SIDE

REGARDS,


LCY
 
- Original Message 
From: Sudeswanto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 8 June 2007 8:37:56
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] UPDATE 4-Nickel falls after LME changes rules









  







Nikel Forward 3 bulan sudah +600

Timah Forward 3 bulan -25

 

Penurunan harga komoditas nikel hanya dikarenakan 
perubahan peraturan yang terjadi di LME, bukan karena faktor supply dan demand 
dimana deman terhadap komoditas nikel masih tetap tinggi

Penurunan harga yang terjadi diperkirakan sudah 
terbatas dan berkemungkinan kecil untuk berada dibawah level USD 
40.000/mt

Selain itu, level inventory diperkirakan masih akan 
mendukung penguatan kenaikan harga komoditas nikel selama masih berada dibawal 
level 10.000 mt.

 

Wish 
all the best for all of you and God bless you all always! ^^

 

 


  -Original Message-
From: ¤ donny-KRISTIANTO ¤ 
  [mailto:donnykristi [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.id]
Sent: 07 Juni 2007 
  23:52
To: obrolan-bandar
Cc: 
  donnykristianto@ yahoo.co. id
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] UPDATE 
  4-Nickel falls after LME changes rules



  
  
By Anna Stablum

LONDON, June 7 (Reuters) - Nickel fell around 
  five
percent on Thursday after the London Metal Exchange
changed lending 
  rules to free up more metal, while
copper slid, analysts said.

The 
  nickel market, with prices hitting $51,800 a tonne
in May and rising some 
  40 percent this year, has been
characterised by extreme tightness with low 
  stocks in
LME warehouses and strong stainless steel production
in China. 
  

The LME amended its lending rules, lowering the limit
at which 
  holders of dominant long positions are
required to lend to the market, late 
  on Wednesday.

They are lowering the lending rules because they 
  want
to make more metal available to the market, analyst
Michael Widmer 
  at Calyon said. [ID:nL07105313]

Two-thirds of nickel output goes to 
  produce stainless
steel and buoyant demand has made it hard to get 
  hold
of the metal, which makes steel harder and more
durable.

By 
  midsession nickel for delivery in three months
MNI3 was down $2,000 
  at $43,600/43,650 per tonne
after touching $43,402 earlier in the session, 
  down
4.8 percent. 

© Reuters 2007. All Rights 
  Reserved.

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Laporan Intel TA - TMPI 070605 Part II

2007-06-06 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
I AM NOT ANTI HIM

He is my teacher before AS AN ECONOMIC ANALYST
BUT NOW HE IS A PENNY STOCK ANALYST

IT MAKES ME ..UPSET... 
BECAUSE MANY INVESTOR ...CONFUSE... 
IN ASGR  TMPI...IF HE IS A  MARKET MAKER. 

I DON'T WANT HIM... LIKE ... BAD BANDAR

IF HE IS A BIG CAP/BLUE CHIP ANALYST... IT DOESN'T MATTER..

IT KEEP HIS REPUTATION.

SORRY...  MR. FL

I WANT YOU BACK TO GRADE ANALYST... NOT FOR PENNY STOCKS


REGARDS,

LCY

- Original Message 
From: boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2007 12:46:35
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Laporan Intel TA - TMPI 070605 Part II









  







hehehe ...

sepertinya anda Anti terhadap FL ...

mending banyak teman daripada banyak musuh ...



lagipula,

sah 2 aja kalau orang mau main di penny stock ..

gak semua orang mau main only in BlueChip.



kan tujuan investor/trader adalah gain ...

gain bisa didapat dari BlueChip, GrayChip bahkan RedChip



setahu saya,

FL bermain di teritorry saham Sleeping Beauty ...

saham yg sudah tidur lama (abandoned stock),

tapi sudah ada perubahan yg baik secara fundamental ...

(setahu saya loh ...)



gitu mr.lee ...

btw, gimana surabaya? sunny day? ... 



salam,





Lee Cwan Yeuw wrote:


  
  
  HIHINagain?

  

ASGR...

TMPI 

  

What's next ?

  

  

I BELIEVE... HE CAN NOT GIVE US  GAININ.. . BLUE CHIP STOCKS

  

HE ONLY CAN GIVE YOU ..SUGGEST. .  in penny stocks.

  

IT WILL BE DANGEROUS.. for retail investor . 

  

  

  

  






  







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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Laporan Intel TA - TMPI 070605 Part II

2007-06-06 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
GOD BLESS YOU

- Original Message 
From: feter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2007 12:44:43
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Laporan Intel TA - TMPI 070605 Part II









  














Good Luck Mr. Lee,
 

  
 

PTBA = UNTR, I call you teacher, may I?
 

Any clue next teacher, respect for you.
 

Which one of your 7 diamonds and stars
that will shine next in near time?
 

SMGR or AALI or ANTM or BMRI?
 

  
 










From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
com ] On Behalf Of Lee Cwan Yeuw

Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007
11:06 AM

To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar]
Laporan Intel TA - TMPI 070605 Part II
 




  
 











HIHINagain?



ASGR...

TMPI 



What's next ?





I BELIEVE... HE CAN NOT GIVE US  GAININ.. . BLUE CHIP STOCKS



HE ONLY CAN GIVE YOU ..SUGGEST. .  in penny stocks.



IT WILL BE DANGEROUS.. for retail investor . 








 



- Original Message


From: saham goreng saham.goreng@ gmail.com

To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2007 10:06:25

Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Laporan Intel TA - TMPI 070605 Part II
 





Just info
 






 
 






tadi latuhihin bilang bahwa tmpi bukan gorengan, dia bilang coba liat
nanti.
 






bahwa dia merokemendasikan nasabah dia ribuan lot.
 






memang kalau bos agis (yg seolah-olah bandar) memang bego buang barang
belum saatnya.
 






terus dia saran in bahwa gak usah cut loss.
 






itu menurut latuhihin.
 






 
 






semoga hal itu benar biar para pemegang tmpi gak rugi yg di milis ini.
 






 
 






 
 






 
 










 
 






Pada tanggal 06/06/07, laksono dwighty ngakunyabandar@ yahoo.com menulis:

 











cuma sharing... 
 






sejatinya, yang jualan kemarin bukan bandar...tapi
beberapa spekulan besar yang pegang REPO TMPI...
 






Momentum jualan juga dipicu oleh sirkulir dari BEJ
yang bilang bahwa kenaikan harga TMPI sudah tidak wajar...
 






kayaknya perang berlanjut di jalanan jakarta nakedly
 






kemungkinan rebiund besar krn target belum
tercapai...hanya sharing info...saya sendiri tidak punya tmpi...
 






hanging there.
 






 
 










Angelo Michel angelo_m_i_c_
[EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:
 












Gambar di bawah adalah simulasi
untuk indikator Bandar
Detector esok hari. Terlihat BD 1 Month
tidak berkurang banyak. Itu berarti Bandar masih memegang cukup banyak saham di
tangannya. Maka selanjutnya bergantung apa tanggapan Bandar terhadap sesuatu 
yang
telah terjadi yang menyebabkan ia ikut panic selling. Jika sesuatu tersebut
terbukti sebagai sesuatu yang ekstrim secara negatif, maka penurunan akan terus
berlanjut. 
 






 
 






Tetapi jika beritanya tidak terlalu
buruk, maka mengingat Bandar tidak mau rugi maka bisa saja ia mengangkat
sedikit harga (rebound)
agar bisa mendapatkan harga jual yang lebih baik. 
 






 
 






Sebaliknya, jika sesuatu
itu tidak terbukti, maka tanggapan positif Bandar tentang saham ini dapat pulih
kembali sehingga rebound
dapat menghasilkan kelanjutan uptrend.
 






 
 






Dengan demikian, dari tiga
kemungkinan yang ada, dua di antaranya adalah rebound (to continue uptrend or 
downtrend).
 






 
 







 












  
 








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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Laporan Intel TA - TMPI 070605 Part II

2007-06-06 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
hi jammeeen Good Luck 4 u... to keep PTBA... don't forget to give poor society

- Original Message 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2007 2:23:22
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Laporan Intel TA - TMPI 070605 Part II









  







I think the next one will 
be BMRI, shining just like BERLIAN.

 

best 
regards,

 

 

 

 


  - Original Message - 

  From: 
  Lee Cwan 
  Yeuw 

  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
  

  Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 
13:28

  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Laporan 
  Intel TA - TMPI 070605 Part II

  


  
  
  

  GOD 
  BLESS YOU


  - 
  Original Message 
From: feter [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.id
To: 
  obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: 
  Wednesday, 6 June 2007 12:44:43
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Laporan Intel 
  TA - TMPI 070605 Part II


  
  

  
  Good Luck Mr. 
  Lee,

   

  PTBA = UNTR, I call 
  you teacher, may I?

  Any clue next 
  teacher, respect for you.

  Which one of your 7 
  diamonds and stars that will shine next in near time?

  SMGR or AALI or ANTM 
  or BMRI?

   

  
  
  
  

  From: 
  obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com ] 
  On Behalf Of Lee Cwan 
  Yeuw
Sent: Wednesday, June 
  06, 2007 11:06 AM
To: 
  obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Laporan 
  Intel TA - TMPI 070605 Part II


   

  
  
  
  
  
  HIHINagain?

ASGR...
TMPI 
  

What's next ?


I BELIEVE... HE CAN NOT GIVE US  
  GAININ.. . BLUE CHIP STOCKS

HE ONLY CAN GIVE YOU ..SUGGEST. 
  .  in penny stocks.

IT WILL BE DANGEROUS.. for retail investor 
  . 





  
  - Original Message 
From: saham goreng 
  saham.goreng@ gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
  com
Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2007 10:06:25
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] 
  Laporan Intel TA - TMPI 070605 Part II

  
  
  Just info


  
   


  
  tadi latuhihin bilang bahwa tmpi bukan gorengan, dia 
  bilang coba liat nanti.


  
  bahwa dia merokemendasikan nasabah dia ribuan 
  lot.


  
  memang kalau bos agis (yg seolah-olah bandar) memang 
  bego buang barang belum saatnya.


  
  terus dia saran in bahwa gak usah cut 
  loss.


  
  itu menurut latuhihin.


  
   


  
  semoga hal itu benar biar para pemegang tmpi gak rugi 
  yg di milis ini.


  
   


  
   


  
   


  
  

 


  
  Pada tanggal 06/06/07, laksono dwighty ngakunyabandar@ yahoo.com menulis: 
  

  
  
  
  
  
  cuma sharing... 


  
  sejatinya, yang jualan kemarin bukan bandar...tapi 
  beberapa spekulan besar yang pegang REPO TMPI...


  
  Momentum jualan juga dipicu oleh sirkulir dari BEJ 
  yang bilang bahwa kenaikan harga TMPI sudah tidak 
  wajar...


  
  kayaknya perang berlanjut di jalanan jakarta 
  nakedly


  
  kemungkinan rebiund besar krn target belum 
  tercapai...hanya sharing info...saya sendiri tidak punya 
  tmpi...


  
  hanging there.


  
   


  
  

Angelo Michel angelo_m_i_c_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] com 
  wrote:


  



Gambar di bawah adalah simulasi 
untuk indikator Bandar Detector esok 
hari. Terlihat BD 1 Month tidak 
berkurang banyak. Itu berarti Bandar masih memegang cukup banyak saham di 
tangannya. Maka selanjutnya bergantung apa tanggapan Bandar terhadap 
sesuatu 
yang telah terjadi yang menyebabkan ia ikut 
panic 
selling. Jika sesuatu 
tersebut terbukti sebagai sesuatu yang 
ekstrim secara negatif, maka penurunan akan terus berlanjut. 




 



Tetapi jika beritanya tidak 
terlalu buruk, maka mengingat Bandar tidak mau rugi maka bisa saja ia 
mengangkat sedikit harga (rebound) agar bisa 
mendapatkan harga jual yang lebih baik. 



 



Sebaliknya, jika 
sesuatu 
itu tidak terbukti, maka tanggapan positif Bandar tentang saham ini dapat 
pulih kembali sehingga rebound dapat menghasilkan 
kelanjutan uptrend.



 



Dengan demikian, dari tiga 
kemungkinan yang ada, dua di antaranya adalah rebound (to continue uptrend 
or 
downtrend).



 








   

  
  
  

  Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast 
  
with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut. 
  






   



   



   

  
  
  

  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Laporan Intel TA - TMPI 070605 Part II

2007-06-06 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
O .I see...

Only side job

sorry Guru FL.

I wait your economic analysis

- Original Message 
From: boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2007 2:39:58
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Laporan Intel TA - TMPI 070605 Part II









  







he is market maker (supported by his gank),

one of local market makers ...



as far as i know ...

he still an economic analyst ...

but he want to lead the awakening of sleeping beauty stocks,

as his side jobs  :-) 

he does select the stocks by fundamental approach,

so that, nothing worried about the danger ...



maybe, he (and his gank) get less attention in technical approach,

that's why his actions looks like rowdy ...



perhaps, he got great return by marketmaking it ...

and maybe many others gets profit from his action ...



reputation?

i think he doesn't care about it ...



regards,





Lee Cwan Yeuw wrote:


  
  
  I AM NOT ANTI HIM

  

He is my teacher before AS AN ECONOMIC ANALYST

BUT NOW HE IS A PENNY STOCK ANALYST

  

IT MAKES ME ..UPSET. .. 

BECAUSE MANY INVESTOR ...CONFUSE.. . 

IN ASGR  TMPI...IF HE IS A  MARKET MAKER. 

  

I DON'T WANT HIM... LIKE ... BAD BANDAR

  

IF HE IS A BIG CAP/BLUE CHIP ANALYST... IT DOESN'T MATTER..

  

IT KEEP HIS REPUTATION.

  

SORRY...  MR. FL

  

I WANT YOU BACK TO GRADE ANALYST... NOT FOR PENNY STOCKS

  

  

REGARDS,

  

LCY

  

  

  






  







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[obrolan-bandar] ANTM = *.%)) AFTER SPLIT !!!!!!!!

2007-06-06 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
HATI-HATI ANTM DISANGKUTKAN DI HARGA TINGGI  (*.%)) x %)

CITIGROUP = RP 8.500,- == AFTER SPLIT 

CITI ANALYST MISSTYPE 

JUST KIDDING...

BUT MAY BE YES ?

HI..Hii.

YOU CAN SEE  PTBA = UNTR

FOLLOW THE WINNER  boy...



- Original Message 
From: James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 7 June 2007 7:32:11
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM - HATI - HATI NYANGKUT DI HARGA TINGGI 










  



sudah mulai ada kepanikan nih dari para investor ANTM dan INCO ... 
heheh disuruh jual di 16000 ama 66000an nggak mau sekarang mau aja dipaksa jual 
di bawah ... qiqiqiqi



On 6/7/07, lalat_ijo_ok lalat_ijo_ok@ yahoo.com wrote:





Stock LME Nickel nambah + Harga Turun Drastis + Regional Merah 
Berdarah.. Kenaikan ANTM pd Tgl. 6/6 dipicu oleh faktor TEHKNIKAL, 
setelah 5 hari mengalami koreksi tajam. Memang benar kadang2 ANTM 

bergerak sideway, tidak terpengaruh dengan Harga Comoditas dan Index. 
Kalo di ingat2 itu juga yang bikin gue NYANGKUT di harga 16.000...
Hati - Hati perhatikan Fundamentalnya (buat yang trading) , 

perhatikan pendapat pak Eka baru - baru ini... 
Buat Investor saya sependapat dengan Pak Eka, Pak Sudes, dan Pak 
Jhoni, 25.000 sampai akhir tahun.
Sekarang SERIGALA-nya NYAMAR jadi DOMBA...




 







  







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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Super strong buy ANTM! PE 10,7

2007-06-05 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
ANTM  BETTER THAN INDUSTRY

- Original Message 
From: Teddy Halim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 4 June 2007 8:23:37
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Super strong buy ANTM! PE 10,7









  



Kalau mau ratio utk FA ANTAM, lihat http://stocks. us.reuters. 
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Sector:
Basic Materials
  
Industry:
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Rp.13,400IDR





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600.00





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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PANIC SELLING!!! Back to FA BC

2007-06-05 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
You are right.andree

If investor want to save their money in capital market

It is time 
1. Back to FA.
2. Back to BC...
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INFO TMPI KENAPA AMBROL

2007-06-05 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
My friend... LCW... said to me that... It is Indonesia

TMPI  High Low = +- 35... seller some brokers

Remember KARW a years ago

Morning. 1800
Close 900
High Low = +- 50% seller LG...only?   
Now 100-200 ?

Another... case DOID, WAPOetc...C Family
IPO 1999-2001 case

So..yesterday ... JCI... down... TMPI

And  ... to protect portfolio buy... good companies
INVEST IN YOU KNOW BEST

If you don't know

BACK TO FA.. AND BC...  Companies

My GURU said  Apart from the obvious fact that rioters tend to come from the 
less well-off (moral-religious) section of the community, there is no evidence 
that economic circumstances have any casual relationship with capital market 
street violence.  

Regards,

LCY




- Original Message 
From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 5 June 2007 7:28:09
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INFO TMPI KENAPA AMBROL









  



Kemarin MONEY FLOW positif.. 



Hari ini MONEY FLOW negatif sedikit (tidak berarti) tapi IHSG

turun banyak dalam sekejap jadi pasti banyak yg terkecoh akibat

ulah TMPI...



--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Aa_Ngasugi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

wrote:



 Kalau saya perhatikan kemarin justru banyak broker kuning yg 

posisinya netbuy,hari ini sepertinya imbang2 saja,bagaimana 

pandangan money flowing Embah ?

 

 Apa masih tunggu signal yg kuat,dulu ?Hari ini tetep ada saham ijo 

loh.

 

 

 

   Pertama embah bingung baca BERITA dibawah, IHSG ancur ama saham 

   TEMPE...

 

   Tapi dari Capital Flow Analysis, embah mendapatkan TIDAK ADA

   GERAKAN YG BERARTI pada BC saat IHSG anjlok, jadi BERITA INI 100% 

   bener: TeMPeIndonesia yg bikin IHSG merosot

 

   Tempe bikin ulah di BEJ, ngetop BANGE... . 

 

   --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Wandy Wiratman wandy@ 

   wrote:

   





Jakarta, 5/6 (ANTARA) - 'Panic selling' (panik jual) saham PT 

   Agis

TBK (TMPI) menekan Indeks Harga Saham Gabungan (IHSG) Bursa 

Efek 

   Jakarta

(BEJ) anjlok 0,88 persen, Selasa.



IHSG ditutup turun 18,642 poin menjadi 2.093,110 dan indeks 

   LQ45

melemah 3,702 poin atau 0,84 persen ke posisi 435,274.



Analis Riset PT Panin Capital Luki Aryatama di Jakarta, 

   mengatakan

bahwa anjloknya indeks BEJ karena faktor 'panic selling' saham 

TMPI 

   yang

mempengaruhi perdagangan BEJ.



Indeks dipengaruhi 'panic selling' TMPI yang menggiring indeks

anjlok menjelang akhir perdagangan,  katanya.



Luki juga mengungkapkan bahwa penurunan ini karena pengaruh 

   sudah

tingginya beberapa saham unggulan yang mengalami aksi ambil 

untung.



Anjloknya saham TMPI ini telah mendorong 112 saham mengalami

penurunan dibanding yang naik 95 dan 41 bergerak mendatar. 

   Perdagangan

Selasa ini lebih didominasi oleh saham lapis kedua, hal ini 

terlihat

dari volume perdagangan yang mencapai 12,671 milia dan nilai 

   transaksi

yang hanya Rp6,217 triliun.



Turunnya saham TMPI ini langsung diikuti anjloknya saham Aneka

Tambang (ANTM), Siread Produce (SIPD), Telkom (TLKM), Indosat 

   (ISAT),

dan Bumi Resources (BUMI) telah menekan indeks BEJ mengalami 

   penurunan.



Saham TMPI terjun Rp975 menjadi Rp2.950, ANTM terkoreksi 

   Rp1.000 ke

posisi Rp12.400, TLKM melemah Rp50 ke level Rp9.700, SIPD 

anjlok 

   Rp3 ke

harga Rp90, ISAT anjlok Rp200 ke level Rp6.600, dan BUMI turun 

Rp50 

   ke

posisi Rp1.870.



(T.H-JS/B/B012/ B012) 05-06-2007 16:29:04











TMPI AMBROL KARENA (2) DUA HAL :















TMPI di isukan mau di beli oleh MTDL tp itu di bantah oleh 

MTDL, 

   karena

MTDL mau membeli Acer Komputer







TMPI mau stocksplit di harga 3000, makanya ambrol di 2950.















Bukan begitu mbah Bandar ??







Mohon masukan lainnya juga jika ada yang mengetahui ambrolnya 

TMPI.















Semoga info nya bermanfaat















Thanks























Wandy@



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM ... HOW LOW CAN YOU GO ???

2007-06-05 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
GOOD COMPANIES  Have good P/E
GOOD  CORP.ACT   SPLIT

My GURU said  BUY the STOCK that SPLIT

This is obviously the sound of a happy investor. Stock splits are good news and 
the price will often continue to increase, given time. Even though this is 
often the case it is not always happens; the price does not have to increase 
and not all stock splits end up being positive, especially for bad companies.

But.. ANTM...different...

SoThank for seller... that..sell this stock
Give me and others... opportunity... to collect ...more and more,,

It is also for SMGR and other GC/BC

Regards,

LCY

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FYI...

Daniel Ari Wiloso [EMAIL PROTECTED] es.com wrote:  
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To: Undisclosed- Recipient: ;
Subject: Fw: ANTM last Update
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 07:18:15 +0700

 
   
  All,
   
  After having a little chat with the management, share price declined
 was not due to any corporate action taken by the company but instead selling 
program run by 2 big foreign fund. 
Though ANTM is temporarily under review in AAA stock universe, but in term 
of industrial outlook ANTM still offers potential upside for the upcoming 
years. Lower inventory level and higher demand for metal product are the short 
term catalyst, while new projects commencing in 2 010 would be a long term 
catalyst for ANTM’s revenue in our believe.  
ANTM as a state-owned metal producer also might have a positive impact 
after the government indicates that they will review coal and metal concessions 
from the miner particularly foreign interest. ANTM’s gold concession is running 
at lower reserve level and obviously acquisition plan of gold mining concession 
should be in their mind now to boost company’s revenue.
Should the share price go a deep further, a long position might be 
suggested to reflect an opportunity of have potential return.
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Laporan Intel TA - TMPI 070605 Part II

2007-06-05 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
HIHINagain?

ASGR...
TMPI 

What's next ?


I BELIEVE... HE CAN NOT GIVE US  GAININ... BLUE CHIP STOCKS

HE ONLY CAN GIVE YOU ..SUGGEST..   in penny stocks.

IT WILL BE DANGEROUS.. for retail investor. 




- Original Message 
From: saham goreng [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2007 10:06:25
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Laporan Intel TA - TMPI 070605 Part II









  




Just info

 

tadi latuhihin bilang bahwa tmpi bukan gorengan, dia bilang coba liat nanti.

bahwa dia merokemendasikan nasabah dia ribuan lot.

memang kalau bos agis (yg seolah-olah bandar) memang bego buang barang belum 
saatnya.

terus dia saran in bahwa gak usah cut loss.

itu menurut latuhihin.

 

semoga hal itu benar biar para pemegang tmpi gak rugi yg di milis ini.

 

 

 



 

Pada tanggal 06/06/07, laksono dwighty ngakunyabandar@ yahoo.com menulis:







cuma sharing... 

sejatinya, yang jualan kemarin bukan bandar...tapi beberapa spekulan besar yang 
pegang REPO TMPI...

Momentum jualan juga dipicu oleh sirkulir dari BEJ yang bilang bahwa kenaikan 
harga TMPI sudah tidak wajar...

kayaknya perang berlanjut di jalanan jakarta nakedly

kemungkinan rebiund besar krn target belum tercapai...hanya sharing info...saya 
sendiri tidak punya tmpi...

hanging there.

 



Angelo Michel angelo_m_i_c_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:




Gambar di bawah adalah simulasi untuk indikator Bandar Detector esok hari. 
Terlihat BD 1 Month tidak berkurang banyak. Itu berarti Bandar masih memegang 
cukup banyak saham di tangannya. Maka selanjutnya bergantung apa tanggapan 
Bandar terhadap 
sesuatu yang telah terjadi yang menyebabkan ia ikut panic selling. Jika sesuatu 
tersebut terbukti sebagai sesuatu yang ekstrim secara negatif, maka penurunan 
akan terus berlanjut. 


 

Tetapi jika beritanya tidak terlalu buruk, maka mengingat Bandar tidak mau rugi 
maka bisa saja ia mengangkat sedikit harga (rebound) agar bisa mendapatkan 
harga jual yang lebih baik.


 

Sebaliknya, jika sesuatu itu tidak terbukti, maka tanggapan positif Bandar 
tentang saham ini dapat pulih kembali sehingga rebound dapat menghasilkan 
kelanjutan 
uptrend.

 

Dengan demikian, dari tiga kemungkinan yang ada, dua di antaranya adalah 
rebound (to continue uptrend or downtrend).

 











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Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA=UNTR

2007-06-05 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
BUY

ANTM
TINS
INCO

They will BACK


- Original Message 
From: Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2007 11:06:19
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Laporan Intel TA - TMPI 070605 Part II









  




HIHINagain?

ASGR...
TMPI 

What's next ?


I BELIEVE... HE CAN NOT GIVE US  GAININ.. . BLUE CHIP STOCKS

HE ONLY CAN GIVE YOU ..SUGGEST. .   in penny stocks.

IT WILL BE DANGEROUS.. for retail investor . 




- Original Message 
From: saham goreng saham.goreng@ gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2007 10:06:25
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Laporan Intel TA - TMPI 070605 Part II











Just info

 

tadi latuhihin bilang bahwa tmpi bukan gorengan, dia bilang coba liat nanti.

bahwa dia merokemendasikan nasabah dia ribuan lot.

memang kalau bos agis (yg seolah-olah bandar) memang bego buang barang belum 
saatnya.

terus dia saran in bahwa gak usah cut loss.

itu menurut latuhihin.

 

semoga hal itu benar biar para pemegang tmpi gak rugi yg di milis ini.

 

 

 



 

Pada tanggal 06/06/07, laksono dwighty ngakunyabandar@ yahoo.com menulis:







cuma sharing... 

sejatinya, yang jualan kemarin bukan bandar...tapi beberapa spekulan besar yang 
pegang REPO TMPI...

Momentum jualan juga dipicu oleh sirkulir dari BEJ yang bilang bahwa kenaikan 
harga TMPI sudah tidak wajar...

kayaknya perang berlanjut di jalanan jakarta nakedly

kemungkinan rebiund besar krn target belum tercapai...hanya sharing info...saya 
sendiri tidak punya tmpi...

hanging there.

 



Angelo Michel angelo_m_i_c_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:




Gambar di bawah adalah simulasi untuk indikator Bandar Detector esok hari. 
Terlihat BD 1 Month tidak berkurang banyak. Itu berarti Bandar masih memegang 
cukup banyak saham di tangannya. Maka selanjutnya bergantung apa tanggapan 
Bandar terhadap 
sesuatu yang telah terjadi yang menyebabkan ia ikut panic selling. Jika sesuatu 
tersebut terbukti sebagai sesuatu yang ekstrim secara negatif, maka penurunan 
akan terus berlanjut. 


 

Tetapi jika beritanya tidak terlalu buruk, maka mengingat Bandar tidak mau rugi 
maka bisa saja ia mengangkat sedikit harga (rebound) agar bisa mendapatkan 
harga jual yang lebih baik.


 

Sebaliknya, jika sesuatu itu tidak terbukti, maka tanggapan positif Bandar 
tentang saham ini dapat pulih kembali sehingga rebound dapat menghasilkan 
kelanjutan 
uptrend.

 

Dengan demikian, dari tiga kemungkinan yang ada, dua di antaranya adalah 
rebound (to continue uptrend or downtrend).

 











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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Laporan Intel TA - TMPI 070605 Part II

2007-06-05 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
Hi...hi... 


the right man   in the wrong place 

economic analystsmall cap analyst 

It is BETTER  BIG CAP / BLUE CHIP ANALYST


- Original Message 
From: gambler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2007 11:43:07
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Laporan Intel TA - TMPI 070605 Part II









  







Hati2 pak banyak yg anti-latuhihin disini 
hehe.

 

...


  - Original Message - 

  From: 
  saham 
  goreng 

  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
  

  Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 10:06 
  AM

  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Laporan 
  Intel TA - TMPI 070605 Part II

  


  Just info

   

  tadi latuhihin bilang bahwa tmpi bukan gorengan, dia bilang coba liat 
  nanti.

  bahwa dia merokemendasikan nasabah dia ribuan lot.

  memang kalau bos agis (yg seolah-olah bandar) memang bego buang barang 
  belum saatnya.

  terus dia saran in bahwa gak usah cut loss.

  itu menurut latuhihin.

   

  semoga hal itu benar biar para pemegang tmpi gak rugi yg di milis 
  ini.

   

   

   

  

 

  Pada tanggal 06/06/07, laksono dwighty ngakunyabandar@ yahoo.com 
  menulis: 
  






cuma sharing... 

sejatinya, yang jualan kemarin bukan bandar...tapi beberapa spekulan 
besar yang pegang REPO TMPI...

Momentum jualan juga dipicu oleh sirkulir dari BEJ yang bilang bahwa 
kenaikan harga TMPI sudah tidak wajar...

kayaknya perang berlanjut di jalanan jakarta nakedly

kemungkinan rebiund besar krn target belum tercapai...hanya sharing 
info...saya sendiri tidak punya tmpi...

hanging there.

 



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wrote:


  
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] SMGR = *).)))

2007-06-04 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw


- Original Message 
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To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 4 June 2007 12:57:04
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG break new high..









  



Kelihatannya P. Busur saat ini sedang PANEN RAYA...

Kesempatan ini saya ingin mengucapkan selamat buat anda pak!



Nah biar MANTEP, ada sedikit bocoran dari PLANNED AGENDA.

Kalau target IHSG menuju 3008 sudah di-STEMPEL ama MATERAI oleh BOZZ.



Terus terang saya kurang concern dengan pergerakan main index, yg 

penting adalah portfolionya.

Tapi perlu dipertimbangkan WARNING dari Embah.

Karena maturity date Hedge Fund kelihatannya akan jatuh pada bulan 

ini.

Bagaimanapun sebelum ke 3000 pastinya akan ada KOREKSI yg selalu 

ditunggu2...



Good Luck! 



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chart_miner@ ... wrote:



 most likely will continue higher,consentrate to all time high 

stocks regds

 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] SMGR = *).)))

2007-06-04 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
before...real.info split TP SMGR.=INCO
After...realinfo..split TP SMGR=*).)))



- Original Message 
From: feter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 4 June 2007 2:14:22
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] SMGR = *).)))









  














I complete your clue, SMGR=INCO, SMGR
= 60,000
 

  
 










From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups.. com [mailto: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
com ] On Behalf Of Lee Cwan Yeuw

Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 1:39
PM

To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] SMGR
= *).)))
 




  
 











  
 



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From: oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] com

To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Monday, 4 June 2007 12:57:04

Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG break new high..
 



Kelihatannya P. Busur saat ini sedang PANEN RAYA...

Kesempatan ini saya ingin mengucapkan selamat buat anda pak!



Nah biar MANTEP, ada sedikit bocoran dari PLANNED AGENDA.

Kalau target IHSG menuju 3008 sudah di-STEMPEL ama MATERAI oleh BOZZ.



Terus terang saya kurang concern dengan pergerakan main index, yg 

penting adalah portfolionya.

Tapi perlu dipertimbangkan WARNING dari Embah.

Karena maturity date Hedge Fund kelihatannya akan jatuh pada bulan 

ini.

Bagaimanapun sebelum ke 3000 pastinya akan ada KOREKSI yg selalu 

ditunggu2...



Good Luck! 



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chart_miner@ ... wrote:



 most likely will continue higher,consentrate to all time high 

stocks regds

 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA=UNTR

2007-06-03 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw


- Original Message 
From: highwaystar91 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 3 June 2007 6:15:34
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA









  



Ptba telah mencapai 5250 Kamis, sptnya pak Tasrul pernah bilang TP 
4800 

ya? Sdh tembus pak, akan ke berapa lagi selanjutnya? Apakah akan 6000 

spt yg saya dengar (sekali lagi, cuma katanya)? Ada yg bisa memberi 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA=UNTR

2007-06-03 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw


- Original Message 
From: highwaystar91 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 3 June 2007 6:15:34
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA









  



Ptba telah mencapai 5250 Kamis, sptnya pak Tasrul pernah bilang TP 
4800 

ya? Sdh tembus pak, akan ke berapa lagi selanjutnya? Apakah akan 6000 

spt yg saya dengar (sekali lagi, cuma katanya)? Ada yg bisa memberi 

masukan dr sisi TA? Trims!






  







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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Let's dance with the WOLVES -- ANTM= just matter of STRATEGY

2007-06-03 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
Hi...hi...hi...

- Original Message 
From: aris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 4 June 2007 12:23:31
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Let's dance with the WOLVES -- ANTM= just 
matter of STRATEGY









  




bagus sekali analisanya.. . sangat tajam. 

mari kita tunggu lentingan karet antm.

 

2007/6/3, oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] com:





--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Jonni Amin, CFA, FRM 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Antam benar2 dibuat linglung oleh NI, dan RX, terus. ada yang 
nampung dibawah. 
 
saham antam kalau terlalu ditekan akan mengundang bandar yang lain 
ikut masuk. Bandar lawan bandar tidak menguntungkan siapapun juga.

 
 Jadi, jangan kita terinjak oleh badak atau gajah yang 
bermain. apalagi ini adalah serigala ..
 

Yang jelas PENURUNAN ANTM saat ini adalah BIASA...as Planned Agenda.
Dan ini dilakukan oleh BD paling GEDHE di BEJ yaitu BOZZ!

Secara FAKTA itu sudah mampu dilakukan dengan adanya penurunan 
sekarang.
Tujuannya adalah MEMANCING ASING untuk MASUK!?
Tahu sendiri SIAPAPUN akan TERTARIK kalau dikasih harga MENARIK.
Walaupun ORDER itu sudah ada di tangan BOZZ.

Hehehe
Bicara penurunan ini akan sesuai dengan teknik Lentingan 
Karetas usual.
Semakin DITEKAN...LENTINGAN nya...akan semakin TINGGI.
Itu yang PENTING!

Kalau dahulu kompor ANTM saya matikan setelah harga 
14.000 TERCAPAI 
persis seperti penutupan minggu kemarin.
Sekarang apakah perlu kompornya DINYALAIN LAGI?

Bocoran Planned Agenda BOZZ;
...mereka akan mengkerek ANTM setelah tgl EX SS menuju ke 5.000. 

Disitulah angka 25.000 akan TERCAPAI!?.. ..jadi tidak hanya 2USD...
Sekali lagi yang penting adalah OUR STRATEGY, your investment ON 
CALL...
Ini adalah agenda utk 2Q07...

Ini bicara ANTM dimana SS-nya sudah TERANG BENDERANG.

Apakah sudah ada yang tahu STRATEGY utk TINS yg juga mau SS?
Utk SS ANTM seperti ini saya sudah bisa bicara pd bulan Februari, 
kalau untuk TINS saya sudah bisa bicara SEKARANG.
Apakah saya termasuk SERIGALA? 

Hahahabisa2 orang pada lari semua yg ketemu saya BESOK...

Oentoeng

Provokator Saham



 






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Re: [obrolan-bandar] The start of CPO's Bull ! AALI=21000 LSIP=9000

2007-05-31 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
AALI =21000
LSIP = 9000

- Original Message 
From: Eka Suwandana [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 31 May 2007 1:21:20
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] The start of CPO's Bull !









  




Harga dan grafik CPO lihat di www.palmoil. com . Ada artikel ttg mulainya 
inverted market / backwardation di Bisnis Indonesia tgl 31 May 2007. Sama dgn 
nickel dulu startnya tahun 2003 dan bertahan sampai 2007. Dan CPO baru mulai 
entah sampai kapan!
   
   
  Data dari fao : http://www.fao. org/DOCREP/ 005/Y4355E/ y4355e04. htm . Ini 
data dari MALI !
   
  Table 3: Estimated annual yield per hectare (from year of planting)
Year
1
2
3
4
5
   
 6
7
8
9
10
11
12
15
20
  Estimated yield
  (Tonnes)
--
--
3.0
4.25
5.5
6.0
7.25
8.2
8.6
9.5
10.5
11.0
12.5
13.5

   
  Kalo lihat data diatas mau maximal return keleksi saham UNSP, TBLA.
   
  Dan juga saya lihat TBLA website www.tunasbarulampun g.com baru di update 
plantation profile march 2007-nya (sudah ada yg planted mulai mature year 9-14, 
sekitar 56%), dan unplanted masih lega ! : 
   
  Company
land Bank 
Planted
Unplanted
Plantation
TBL  21,417  7,476  13,941  Palm Oil BSA  964  894  70  Palm Oil 
BNIL  6,475  6,028  447Palm Oil and Hybrid Coconut 
BNIL- Intercropping   -  3,128  -  Palm Oil BDP  7,959  7,549  410  
Palm Oil BNCW 
 1,810  1,407  403Palm Oil and Orange 
AKG  5,398  2,107  3,291Pineapple and Palm Oil 
BTLA  9,203  7,019  2,184  Palm Oil Total Nucleus Plantation  53,226  
35,608  20,746   Total Plasma Plantation   23,535  10,035  13,500  Palm Oil 
TOTAL  76,761  45,643  34,246   


   Age ( in Years ) 
 0 - 4 
 
   5 - 6 
7 - 8 
9 - 10 
11 - 12 
13 - 14 
15 - 16 
Total
Hectarage7,820 
697
3,746
12,696
7,849
2,415
5,652
40,875
Percentage19.13%
1.71%
9.16%
31.06% 
  
19.20%
5.91%
13.83%
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] JSX ALERT: Capital OUTFLOW memprihatinkan !!!

2007-05-29 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
PGAS is one of my stars.

PGAS... a monopoli ...gas distribution...company

Entry barrier .. to enter ...this business ...difficult.

I don't know the reasons... citi to downgrade...TP PGAS = 7000 ??

Also  ANTM = 8.500?

ANTM will .split ...their stock.and their profit...good

I think they don't have that stocks... they try to stress the  market ..using 
their research

As an investor I will keep this stock 



- Original Message 
From: ocean blue [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, 29 May 2007 2:44:25
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] JSX ALERT: Capital OUTFLOW memprihatinkan !!!









  



how abt PGAS mr Lee? do you have any prediction abt it?



thks for your kindness to share..

rgrds

^_^

Lee Cwan Yeuw wrote:

 Hi...hi. .



 Don't worry   SBY and MAR ---OK



 CITI said ..

 TLKM=12.000

 JSX = 2600





 - Original Message 

 From: Bettina Tan bettina.tan@ gmail.com

 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

 Sent: Tuesday, 29 May 2007 2:01:28

 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] JSX ALERT: Capital OUTFLOW memprihatinkan !!!



















   





 

 Ayoyo.. what do you mean? Aseng duduk diam lu mau usik, aseng 
 manyak jualan lu mara2, aseng beli barang lu kasi jual biar turun. Ayoyo.. 
 manyak susah lah. Bo liao..







 On 5/29/07, laksono dwighty ngakunyabandar@ yahoo.com wrote:















 Cuma di telkom kaan..? and kalau saya bilang terus terang siapa yang jualan 
 selama ini...pasti mbah kagetyang jelas asing nya hanya 8% mbah...sisanya 
 aseng..







 Embah jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id wrote:







 JSX ALERT: Capital OUTFLOW memprihatinkan !!!



 Embah kirimkan lagi grafik JSX CAPITAL FLOW terakhir...



 Dari gambar terlihat CAPITAL OUTFLOW mulai terjadi dalam

 beberapa HARI TERAKHIR...



 Apakah ini adalah AWAL dari BOLA SALJU yg makin membesar ?.





 



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Trimegah - ANTM - INCO - TINS - PTBA

2007-05-29 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
ANTM 

30-05-2007  EOM

Split

1:5 

15.000 = (5x3000)

think INCO after split.

MC INCO :
2004=  11.476
2006= 30.803
Q1 2007 = 60.000

So15.000 x 5 = 75.000 ???

hihi..hi...hi






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Sent: Tuesday, 29 May 2007 4:25:11
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Trimegah - ANTM - INCO - TINS - PTBA









  







Trimegah:

 

ANTM   Sell   TP 
11,200

INCO    Sell  
  TP 51,000


PTBA   Sell   TP 
4,100


TINS Buy  
 TP 15,400

 



  







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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Cum dividen PTBA.

2007-05-28 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
Remember...

PTBA=UNTR

- Original Message 
From: highwaystar91 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 28 May 2007 2:41:30
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Cum dividen PTBA.









  



Tgl. 29 besok ya?  berarti hari ini naik gara2 cum dividen atau 
kabar 

ptba mau akuisisi tambang? Setelah tgl. 29 apakah akan jatuh lagi? Ada 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar]BRPT will..................

2007-05-28 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
NEW BUSINESS.
NEW PROSPECT..




Barito Ekspansi Usaha Lain
JAKARTA: Perusahaan yang bergerak di bidang industri kayu
terpadu, PT Barito Pacific Timber Tbk (Barito) akan melakukan ekspansi
ke bidang lain, semisal bidang resources.



Dirut Barito Anton B S Hudyana, usai rapat umum pemegang saham (RUPS)
di Jakarta, Rabu menyebutkan, prioritas utama bisnis perseroan adalah
mencari bisnis baru. Kita tidak tinggal diam. Tetapi secara umum
resources seperti bidang pertambangan, kata Anton.

Dikatakan Anton, rencana perseroan tersebut telah terangkum dalam
rancangan kerja anggaran tahunan (RKAT) tahun lalu. Namun demikian,
Anton belum berani mempertegas dalam bentuk apa perseroan melakukan
ekspansi usaha baru itu. Bisa dilakukan merger atau akuisisi, kata
Anton.

SEE .BOLD
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From: Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 28 May 2007 1:40:39
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar]LSIP=9000...AALI=21.000









  









 
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS

2007-05-27 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
still good
but.. citi.. down grade .to 7000 


- Original Message 
From: feter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 28 May 2007 10:42:28
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS









  












PGAS kayaknya boleh ditampung nih, bgmn pendapat Pak Eka,
Pak Sudes, Embah dan Mr. Lee
 









  







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Re: [obrolan-bandar] after 2100, BULL...BULL ...BULL......???

2007-05-24 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
USA do not need your country get bear.. especially... to  keep this region 
from china influence
Your BI Rate will be down again
The price of your SUN continue to rise

So.. what's wrong with your country ???

It is still good 

Until now I prefer to invest in your country

Because  our country don't have natural resources... i must buy ANTM, INCO, 
PTBA, AALI, TINS etc

so buy that stock,
 

- Original Message 
From: Wiro Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 24 May 2007 2:51:16
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] after 2100, BEAR...BEAR ...BEAR..???









  



Naik turun ya wajar, turun koreksi dibilang BEAR ya susah. Dari 
Maret 07 sampe hari ini lihat chart ihsg kok sepertinya naik ya alias uptrend? 
Klo tiap koreksi dibilang bear berarti dari maret 07 sampe skrg udah belasan 
bear dong??



On 5/24/07, macan cuan [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.id wrote:













  



Masih ada yg mau teriak BULL BULL BULL ???

Hehehhee . ...turun 1,27 % nih sampe detik ini. ...

tunggu aja sampai senin... .kita lihat sampai dimana kekuatan support2 
IHSG..



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Belanja apa buat bulan Juni

2007-05-24 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
HIHIN ??? ..LATUHIHIN

FOR YEARS AGO HE ALWAYS SAY THAT RUPIAH WILL BE 12000/15.000... IHSG  WILL 
DOWN TO 800 INDONESIA WILL CRISIS. IN FACT   RUPIAH N JCI ARE 
BETTER THAN HIS PREDICTION

HE IS GOOD IN ASGR
BUT HE TALKS IN BULLISH MARKET
WHEN PEOPLES GET GAIN IN ALL SECURITIES

TRY JOURNALIST TO ASK HIM TO PREDICT  HOW ABOUT RUPIAH N JCI ?

OR WE WAIT HIS ANOTHER COMMENTS ON BLUE CHIP SECURITIES.

 
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From: hoki lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 24 May 2007 8:21:08
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Belanja apa buat bulan Juni









  



untuk apa beli asgr..., cuma cari korban ...tidak ada agenda lain 
selain bagi deviden ..., cuma yang goreng hebat..., cuma modal foto hihin di 
koran dan sedikit kata-kata buat cuap-cuap...

Sembilan Benoa sembilanbenoa@ yahoo.com wrote:  
Belanja apa buat bulan Juni, BBNI mungkin, siap tahu pemerintah mau 
ngelepas di atas 3000. Atau minning yang pada turun. Lumayan toh kalau rebound. 
Kalau ASGR mah selalu ketemu broker aneh!! Selamat untuk yang rekomend Grup 
Sungai Budi. Sayangnya nggak ikut, takut ketemu broker aneh juga :).
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] VOLUME-THIN= LITTLE INVESTOR PANIC

2007-05-24 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw


- Original Message 
From: Heryadi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 25 May 2007 8:13:22
Subject: Fw: [obrolan-bandar] after 2100, BEAR...BEARBEAR..???









  







DJI dibuka sempat menguat 0.7 % dan akhirnya 
ditutup melemah -0.6 %

ini akibat statement Allan Greenspan yang udah 
pensiun.

Ini kan reaksi sesaat minggu depan juga rebound 
lagi.

 

GBU

 

- Original Message - 
From: macan cuan 


To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 

Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 4:47 AM

Subject: [obrolan-bandar] after 2100, 
BEAR...BEAR. ...BEAR.. ???






Ini lho Pak..
WORLD INDICES 

  
  
Market Indices
Index Level
+/-%
  
COMPX
2.537,9199
-1,5184
  
DJI
13.441,1299
-0,6249
  
HSI.X
20.798,9707
0,
  
NI225
17.696,9707
0,
  
STI
3.530,2600
0, Updated 
25/05/2007, 04:25:07

Masih ada yg mau teriak lagi 

coba tebak 
IHSG hari ini terjungkal hingga berapa poin ??

tunggu sampai 
senin... .yg nekat masuk ya tanggung 
sendiri. .

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call





Andri Wijaya 
andri.wijaya@ gmail.com wrote:


  
  dow roller coaster dari +80an jadi -20
emank udah waktunya koreksi 
  dulu
regards



  On 5/24/07, Eddy S. 
  Purnomo  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] net.id wrote:
  





 

Keep watching bro, there may be confusion in 
the market.

 

 


  - 
  Original Message - 

  From: 
  ihsg 88 

  To: 
  obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
  

  
  Sent: 
  Thursday, May 24, 2007 10:04 PM

  Subject: 
  Re: [obrolan-bandar] after 2100, BULL...BULL ...BULL. .???

  


  
  DJ crazy. + - + - ??. I wait  see.



  On 5/24/07, ihsg 
  88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: 
  I will back. DowJones + 
again. 



On 5/24/07, James 
Arifin james.arifin@ gmail.com  wrote: 

  No problem if you sold it yesterday, so you can buy good stock at 
  cheap price. Therefore, yesterday I agree with macan cuan to sell and 
  short all INCO and ANTM to be able to buy back again at lower price. 
  So I am still waiting the right timing for entry, for sure it is not 
  today 
  


  On 5/24/07, Lee 
  Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.sg  wrote: 
  







USA do not need your 
country get bear.. especially.. . to  keep this region 
from china influence
Your BI Rate will be down again 
The 
price of your SUN continue to rise

So.. what's wrong with 
your country ???

It is still good 

Until now I prefer 
to invest in your country

Because  our country don't 
have natural resources... i must buy ANTM, INCO, PTBA, AALI, TINS 
etc 

so buy that stock,
 


- 
Original Message 
From: Wiro Hardy wiro.pribadi@ gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: 
Thursday, 24 May 2007 2:51:16
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] after 
2100, BEAR...BEAR ...BEAR. .???



Naik turun ya wajar, turun koreksi dibilang BEAR ya susah. Dari 
Maret 07 sampe hari ini lihat chart ihsg kok sepertinya naik ya 
alias uptrend? Klo tiap koreksi dibilang bear berarti dari maret 07 
sampe skrg udah belasan bear dong?? 



On 5/24/07, macan cuan [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.id  wrote: 

  
  
  
  
  Masih ada yg mau teriak BULL BULL BULL 
  ???

Hehehhee . ...turun 1,27 % nih sampe detik 
  ini. ...

tunggu aja sampai senin... .kita lihat 
  sampai dimana kekuatan support2 IHSG.. 


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Re: [obrolan-bandar] after 2100, BULL...BULL ...BULL......???

2007-05-23 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw


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From: macan cuan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2007 1:49:15
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] after 2100, BEAR...BEAR ...BEAR..???









  



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Re: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] Target Price TLKM=ASII

2007-05-23 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw


- Original Message 
From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2007 2:58:53
Subject: Re: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] Target Price TLKM









  



14:50



TLKM Technical reBound +300 (3,2%)...



Will TLKM TBon be followed by FUND INFLOW tomorrow ?.



--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Mr. Boen mr.boenjamin@ ... 

wrote:



 gimana klo TLKM di bawah 8500 ??

 hmm .. nyam nyam

 

 mr.boen

 

 

 On 5/22/07, anto cibubur [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote:

 

TP 31/05/07 9.000

 

  dari sumber yang tidak dapat dipercaya

 

 

 

  - Pesan Asli 

  Dari: ALX alexmuhairuddin@ ...

  Kepada: junior_Trader@ yahoogroups. com; obrolan-

[EMAIL PROTECTED] com

  Terkirim: Selasa, 22 Mei, 2007 10:13:20

  Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Target Price TLKM

 

   FYI...

 

  Tgl  Broker   Target   Recomm

 

  27/03/07   DB 13.250Buy

  10/04/07Credit Suisse9.200Neutral

  20/04/07   DB 13.250Buy

  25/04/07   YU  11.000Neutral

  25/04/07KZ 12.500Buy

  30/04/07YU 11.000Neutral

  21/05/07 IF  11.400Buy (Maintained)

 

  Dari berbagai sumber

 

  GO LIVERPOOL !!!

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Re: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] Target Price TLKM

2007-05-23 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
TLKM.down to JUMP

- Original Message 
From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2007 2:58:53
Subject: Re: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] Target Price TLKM









  



14:50



TLKM Technical reBound +300 (3,2%)...



Will TLKM TBon be followed by FUND INFLOW tomorrow ?.



--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Mr. Boen mr.boenjamin@ ... 

wrote:



 gimana klo TLKM di bawah 8500 ??

 hmm .. nyam nyam

 

 mr.boen

 

 

 On 5/22/07, anto cibubur [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote:

 

TP 31/05/07 9.000

 

  dari sumber yang tidak dapat dipercaya

 

 

 

  - Pesan Asli 

  Dari: ALX alexmuhairuddin@ ...

  Kepada: junior_Trader@ yahoogroups. com; obrolan-

[EMAIL PROTECTED] com

  Terkirim: Selasa, 22 Mei, 2007 10:13:20

  Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Target Price TLKM

 

   FYI...

 

  Tgl  Broker   Target   Recomm

 

  27/03/07   DB 13.250Buy

  10/04/07Credit Suisse9.200Neutral

  20/04/07   DB 13.250Buy

  25/04/07   YU  11.000Neutral

  25/04/07KZ 12.500Buy

  30/04/07YU 11.000Neutral

  21/05/07 IF  11.400Buy (Maintained)

 

  Dari berbagai sumber

 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] after 2100, BEAR...BEAR ...BEAR......???

2007-05-23 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
They are NATO.




- Original Message 
From: Wiro Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2007 3:53:01
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] after 2100, BEAR...BEAR ...BEAR..???









  



Ada kok di milis yang teriakin bear sejak index 1700, 1800, 1900, 
2000, mungkin jg 2100. sorry one liner


On 5/23/07, Johand Dimalouw 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:












  




AFTER 2100, kok BEAR? Apa Bear bisa antar Index ke 2200 pada tanggal 22 Juni 
2007? 


JD



- Original Message 
From: macan cuan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
co.id
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 1:49:15 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] after 2100, BEAR...BEAR ...BEAR. .???




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Re: Fw: Re[2]: [obrolan-bandar] pesaing CPRO DI TENDER DIPASENA

2007-05-23 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
That is your country.

- Original Message 
From: EKA SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2007 4:25:36
Subject: Re: Fw: Re[2]: [obrolan-bandar] pesaing CPRO DI TENDER DIPASENA









  



Sri Mulyani sih nggak politis! DI kabinet saya lihat tim ekonomi 
nggak ikutan politik tuh! Percaya deh CPRO yg menang! Soalnya kemarin bukannya 
ada kabar dari orang DIPASENA kalo Kemila ketahuan di bonceng orang2 Recapital! 

Mr. Aneh tapi nyata [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.uk wrote:  
Negara RI penuh dengan orang politik,,,
org politik pasti main di dipasena lewat Kemila
hati2!!
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Heryadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:

 Kalau menurut Pak Eka S bagaimana kans CPRO?
 Apakah faktor politik ikut berperan disini?
 Thanks
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: laksono dwighty 
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 12:16 PM
 Subject: Re: Re[2]: [obrolan-bandar] pesaing CPRO DI TENDER DIPASENA
 
 
 
 CPRO katanya kalah telak...(sampai detik ini...)
 
 Heri Fikrio heri_ki_98@ ... wrote:
 dengar2, masyarakat perikanan indonesia sedang berusaha juga unuk
menjegal cpro memenangkan dipasena. katanya sih, kalo cpro menang,
mereka akan monopoli produksi udang dari hulu ke hilir, dan tentu akan
menjadi pertimbangan ppa juga untuk memilih pemenangnya. ..so, disini
nggak hanya masalah teknikal, tapi nuansa politisnya juga
 sangat
kental...untuk sementara, main aman aja sebelum sambil mantengin
monitor sebelum detik2 pengumuman
 
 Doly Simbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. wrote: 
 ini khan udang pak???
 
 setahu saya sih budidaya ikan dan udang itu beda
 
 tingkat akademisi seseorang baru bisa dibilang GOOD kalau memang
mempunyai pengalam yang GOOD
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Odink [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 11:15:31 AM
 Subject: Re: Re[2]: [obrolan-bandar] pesaing CPRO DI TENDER DIPASENA
 
 
 hehee.. misal kl CPRO yg menggunakan kekuatan politis dan lain
sebagainya 
 untuk mendapatkan dipasena, apakah disini ada yg protes? ayo
dong kasih 
 view yg obyektif..
 
 kemila dan kml itu membina ratusan
 ukm di pantura, anda bisa
tanya ke para 
 juragan ikan disitu. dari segi keilmuan jg gak diragukan, mereka
lulusan 
 terbaik universitas yg mencetak sarjana2 pertanian dan perikanan
terbaik 
 negeri ini. duit pun ditangani oleh orang2 terbaik. saya gak
akan heran kl 
 kemila menang. krn mereka capable dan dikelola profesional aseli
endonesa.
 
 biarkan urusan pemenang menjadi urusan pt ppa, kl masih sewot ya
daftar 
 aja ke pt ppa.. hehee
 
 kl memang pengen jadi investor, kupas aja disini apa dan
bagaimana CPRO 
 disini.. jgn bahas kulitnya doang. biar warungnya mbah makin
kaya akan 
 ilmu dan pengetahuan. bukan hanya sekedar syak wasangka dan
provokasi.
 
 coba bantu saya menjelaskan kenapa CPPR delisting ketika kondisi 
 finansialnya mulai membaik, dan sekarang listing lagi dengan
kode CPRO 
 beserta warrantnya 4 buah. kl saya jd owner
 cpro, saya udah gak
ambil 
 pusing cpro menang atau kalah tender dipasena.. ude untung
banyak dari 
 jualan warrant dan naiknya saham yg 300% dari IPO, itung aja brp
duit.
 
 On Wed, 23 May 2007 10:59:43 +0700, Dodi Aulia 
 dodi.yosfa. [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
  Mungkin agak sedikit kasar dan terlalu berlebihan kalau
membandingkan
  seperti itu. Nasib hidup orang banyak dan nilai usaha
trilyunan rupiah
  dibandingkan dengan hanya suatu kotak suara. Apalagi PPA sudah 
  pengalaman
  buruk bahwa ketika Recapital (yang juga secara langsung bukan
produsen
  udang) dimenangkan, ternyata tidak bisa memenuhi kewajibannya.
 
  Mungkin benar di negara ini nuansa politis masih kental. Tapi
saya rasa, 
  di
  sini bukan hanya nasib orang2 di Dipasena saja, kredibilitas
PPA juga 
 
 bakal
  dipertaruhkan di sini kalau sampai ternyata Kemila dimenangkan.
 
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Re: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] Target Price SMGR INCO

2007-05-23 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
OK

SMGR  INCO

- Original Message 
From: feter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2007 5:14:58
Subject: RE: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] Target Price BBCA=BBRI









  














Point taken,
 

ASII = 21,000, Dream comes true?
 

How about AALI = 21,000, do you feel
optimistic boss?
 

  
 










From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
com ] On Behalf Of Lee Cwan Yeuw

Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 4:11
PM

To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Lippo Group=DON'T TOUCH !!!

2007-05-23 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw


- Original Message 
From: Arnest Lisal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2007 5:16:15
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Lippo Group









  



Untuk Group Lippo, saya juga tidak menyarankan untuk maen long term,
melainkan short term, dikarenakan tipikal saham Lippo Group adalah
saham shot term. Sejauh ini saya melihat dan memperhatikan saham group
lippo jarang di amatin oleh retail investor. Jikalau Investor
perorangan tidak gegabah maen saham tersebut, kecenderungan bisa
menghasilkan return yg lumayan lah.


On 5/23/07, helmi setiawan [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:













  



Saham2 LIPPO itu suangat pelit ama chuan dan sangat volatile 
misal

kalo ada yang masuk 1000 lot aja langsung potong bebek rame2

bandarnya, biar hasilnya langsung bisa dibagi hari itu juga oleh

tukang gorengnya, saya liat yang menaikan harga hari ini hanya BD2

itu2 juga, saham LIPPO suaangat tidak disarankan 



Kecuali untuk long term selama 3 bulan sampai 2 tahun bisalah.



Regard



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arnestlisal@ ... wrote:



 Mohon bapak/ibu cermati saham2 Group Lippo, kecenderungan masih

berpeluang,

 terlebih yang berhubungan berat dengan bidang finance !

 

 

 

 -- 

 Arnest Lisal

 PT. SINARMAS SEKURITAS

 GEDUNG SINARMAS, LT. II

 JL. ABDUL RIVAI NO. 2

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 accurate or complete. Neither the information nor the opinion expressed

 herein constitutes, or is to be construed as an offer to sell or buy

 securities referred to herein. This document is for  the information of

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA

2007-05-21 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
OUT ???

PTBA = UNTR

- Original Message 
From: highwaystar91 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 21 May 2007 10:27:36
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA









  



Para sesepuh TA, mau tanya kapan sebaiknya keluar dari PTBA menurut 

indikator TA? Terima kasih.






  







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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUY TLKM

2007-05-11 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
For TLKM Sellers.

STOP or we make a WAR


- Original Message 
From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 11 May 2007 11:25:20
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUY TLKM









  



Kalo TAKUT, jangan LIAT LAYAR atau BROKER SUMMARY !!!



BELI dan MATIIN LAYAR, JUAL SEMINGGU LAGI



Note:

- FULLY DISCLAIMER

- Dari caranya maenin TLKM ini BENER BENER BOZZ ASLI BEJ, jadi

  semua kemungkinan BISA TERJADI...



--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED]  

wrote:



 hi...hi.hiii

 

 Buy  TLKM

 

 - Original Message 

 From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ...

 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

 Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2007 9:06:54

 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Rekayasa TLKM dan IHSG (koreksi)

 

 

 Jangan cuman perhatikan nama broker, mereka CUMAN 

ALAT !!!

 

 

 

 Perhatikan 'KOMANDO' nya: 

 

 - Pada menit menit terakhir level 10050 DIHAJAR oleh beberapa

 

   broker yg dipakai si BOZZ.

 

 - Tapi secepat kilat, semua OFFER GEDE dilevel 10050,10100, 

 

   10150 diCABUT, INI MENUNJUKAN adanya SATU KOMANDO dibawah 

 

   si BOZZ sehingga YU bisa menutup TLKM keatas di 10200 buat 

 

   DIHAJAR LAGI hari ini kelevel 9950.

 

 






  







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[obrolan-bandar] BUY TLKM

2007-05-10 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
hi...hi.hiii

Buy  TLKM

- Original Message 
From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2007 9:06:54
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Rekayasa TLKM dan IHSG (koreksi)









  



Jangan cuman perhatikan nama broker, mereka CUMAN ALAT !!!



Perhatikan 'KOMANDO' nya: 

- Pada menit menit terakhir level 10050 DIHAJAR oleh beberapa

  broker yg dipakai si BOZZ.

- Tapi secepat kilat, semua OFFER GEDE dilevel 10050,10100, 

  10150 diCABUT, INI MENUNJUKAN adanya SATU KOMANDO dibawah 

  si BOZZ sehingga YU bisa menutup TLKM keatas di 10200 buat 

  DIHAJAR LAGI hari ini kelevel 9950.



--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, happy cuan [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. 

wrote:



 maksudnya BK sama YU ya Mbah?

 

 On 5/8/07, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... wrote:

 

  Coba anda PERHATIKAN transaksi 5 menit TERAKHIR KEMARIN sebelum

  penutupan... .

 

  Anda akan liat INI ADALAH PERMAINAN BOZZ GEDE yang engga

  mungkin DILAWAN !

 

 

  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, James Arifin

  james.arifin@  wrote:

  

   mbah, mestinya sebagai penjaga gawang TLKM mestinya embah turun

  tangan untuk

   hajar tuh satu orang tersebut, masak embah rela portfolio mbah

  dikerjain

   satu orang doang ... lawan dong mbah, pimpin pasukan maju ke 

depan

  perang

   merah darah

  

   On 5/8/07, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@  wrote:

   

  Rekayasa TLKM dan IHSG

   

Pada tgl 26/4/7 posisi TLKM dan IHSG: 10800 dan 2016.

   

Hari ini tgl 8/5/7 posisi TLKM dan IHSG: 9950 dan 2022.

   

Selama periode itu TLKM turun -850 dan IHSG +6.

   

Bobot TLKM terhadap IHSG menurut pak Sudes :

- perubahan 50 perak TLKM akan mempengaruhi IHSG = 1,57

   

Jadi penurunan 850 perak TLKM akan membuat IHSG turun sebesar:

- 850/50 x 1,57 = - 26,7 point.

   

Tapi nyatanya IHSG naik +6 dari 2016 ke 2022 selama TLKM

turun -850.

   

KESIMPULAN:

- IHSG tanpa TLKM naik 32,7 point yaitu (6+26,7).

- tapi karena TLKM bikin turun IHSG sebesar -26,7 point

maka IHSG cuman naik +6 dari tgl 26/4 sampai sore ini.

   

PERTANYAAN:

- Kenapa TLKM dikerjain saat BURSA LAGI BULLISH ?. Ini 

pertanyaan

yg embah tanya ama pak Adi Chandra beberapa hari yg lalu.

   

INFO TAMBAHAN:

- Dari CARA MAINNYA, embah menyimpulkan PIHAK yg NGERJAIAN 

TLKM

adalah SATU ORANG DOANG (SATU KOMANDO) yg main dari

BEBERAPA BROKER...

   

...

   

embah, bandarmologist

   

   

   

  

 

 

 

 

 

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2007-05-10 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
OK 9600 STOP

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2007-05-03 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
hi..hi 

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