Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Ada apa dg INCO ??
it never reaches 65K either.. double cheers - Original Message From: Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 10:02:58 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Ada apa dg INCO ?? how much cash do you have huh..? for ONE lot only..? Inco never falls below 58K cheers James Arifin james.arifin@ gmail.com wrote: iya nih ... bandar pelit banget, turunnya dikit banget ... kita sd bawa ember nih ... guyur dong lagi ... volume hampir nggak ada nih .. benar2 payah ... On 4/19/07, Karno [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: Kagak berani nurunin bandarnya. BANCI !!! BANCI !!! BANCI !!! - Original Message - From: Mr. T To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 12:48 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Ada apa dg INCO ?? Kalo ngomong sama orang2x yang banyak megang inco sih (tebak aja siapa yang bisa ngumpulin INCO gitu loh...), kayaknya konsensusnya SELL on strength. Reasonnya, high dividend dan nickel price sudah factored in to the price ( 50,000 + 4000 (dividend) + premium on nickel betting spread (6,000) ) Jadi anything higher then 60 thousand buat inco, IN THE TIME BEING, which is until cum dividend is PROFIT, thus need to be TAKEN Abis Cum sih pasti jatuh dulu Trade Safely... James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bung Andri ... jangan ngomporin kita2 lah, sekarang bukan tugas kita lagi untuk ngeshort INCO, sudah terlalu banyak keluar barang ama short sedikit ... jangan sampai BIG BOZZ turun tangan minta balik semua untuk dari TP dan short, khan sayang sudah susah2 analisa diminta pulang sama bandar. Kalau saya sih rekomend besok kalau INCO naik lagi silakan dijual rame2 dan sekalian juga dishort kalau yang punya fasilitas. INCO masalahnya cuma liquidity. Lebih mending short ANTM ama TINS yang liquidity ada terus. Ngeshort ama ngelong perlu liquidity buat keluar masuk. Entar saya bantuin tambah short di 58400 deh biar sekalian kita bisa tampung bareng2 di 51500 On 4/18/07, Andri Wijaya andri.wijaya@ gmail.com wrote: yang gede saja buat nampung di 51500 ayo bozz i am with you regards On 4/18/07, James Arifin james.arifin@ gmail.com wrote: nggak apa-apa kok, khan dari harga sekarang ke 11 saya masih banyak kesempatan beli kok ... yang penting cuan dari beli di 37000 diamankan dulu .. masuk kandang ... toh untung sudah lumayan, entar kalau naik lagi yah duit khan ada tinggal beli. INCO sementara trial short dikit2 tapi spreadnya terlalu jauh. On 4/18/07, jsxid [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: Babai Pak.. nanti kita ketemu di 11 ya kalau ternyata Q1 INCO triple dan ternyata ada stock split.. sebentar lagi kan pengumuman Q1nya siapa tau sekalian pengumuman stock splitnya juga.. hehe --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, James Arifin james.arifin@ ... wrote: Barang sudah habis ... On 4/18/07, mr.bearish_forever mr.bearish_forever@ ... wrote: Bozz, Tumben ga SHORT , berubah jadi LONG nih.. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups. com, James Arifin james.arifin@ wrote: horee indeks akan naik lagi ... see you all at the high ... IHSG will soon break 2000. ANTM will soon become 25000 (Sinarmas riset), INCO will be 11 (conservative) - 20 (aggresive) dan TINS will become 24000 as predicted by Bang Irwan See you all in the high On 4/18/07, Andri Wijaya andri.wijaya @ wrote: hajar truz bozz index lagi distribusi, prepare yourselves On 4/18/07, Investor Bonex investorbonex@ wrote: Apakah yield 7% (gross) kurang menarik utk company sekelas INCO ? Ada bbrp kemungkinan : - Bandar masih kurang muatannya - Ngusir lalat2 pengganggu makan siang - Ato emang produksi INCO bakal berkurang 1Q07 krn capacity damnya reduced. ANy comment is welcome. Salam Bonex - - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://us.rd. yahoo.com/ evt=48245/ *http://autos. yahoo.com/ new_c a rs.html;_ylc= X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2 BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2 BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFn cwRzbGsD b mV3LWNhcnM- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Ada apa dg INCO ??
Kalo ngomong sama orang2x yang banyak megang inco sih (tebak aja siapa yang bisa ngumpulin INCO gitu loh...), kayaknya konsensusnya SELL on strength. Reasonnya, high dividend dan nickel price sudah factored in to the price ( 50,000 + 4000 (dividend) + premium on nickel betting spread (6,000) ) Jadi anything higher then 60 thousand buat inco, IN THE TIME BEING, which is until cum dividend is PROFIT, thus need to be TAKEN Abis Cum sih pasti jatuh dulu Trade Safely... James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bung Andri ... jangan ngomporin kita2 lah, sekarang bukan tugas kita lagi untuk ngeshort INCO, sudah terlalu banyak keluar barang ama short sedikit ... jangan sampai BIG BOZZ turun tangan minta balik semua untuk dari TP dan short, khan sayang sudah susah2 analisa diminta pulang sama bandar. Kalau saya sih rekomend besok kalau INCO naik lagi silakan dijual rame2 dan sekalian juga dishort kalau yang punya fasilitas. INCO masalahnya cuma liquidity. Lebih mending short ANTM ama TINS yang liquidity ada terus. Ngeshort ama ngelong perlu liquidity buat keluar masuk. Entar saya bantuin tambah short di 58400 deh biar sekalian kita bisa tampung bareng2 di 51500 On 4/18/07, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:yang gede saja buat nampung di 51500 ayo bozz i am with you regards On 4/18/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nggak apa-apa kok, khan dari harga sekarang ke 11 saya masih banyak kesempatan beli kok ... yang penting cuan dari beli di 37000 diamankan dulu .. masuk kandang ... toh untung sudah lumayan, entar kalau naik lagi yah duit khan ada tinggal beli. INCO sementara trial short dikit2 tapi spreadnya terlalu jauh. On 4/18/07, jsxid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Babai Pak.. nanti kita ketemu di 11 ya kalau ternyata Q1 INCO triple dan ternyata ada stock split.. sebentar lagi kan pengumuman Q1nya siapa tau sekalian pengumuman stock splitnya juga.. hehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barang sudah habis ... On 4/18/07, mr.bearish_forever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bozz, Tumben ga SHORT , berubah jadi LONG nih.. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, James Arifin james.arifin@ wrote: horee indeks akan naik lagi ... see you all at the high ... IHSG will soon break 2000. ANTM will soon become 25000 (Sinarmas riset), INCO will be 11 (conservative) - 20 (aggresive) dan TINS will become 24000 as predicted by Bang Irwan See you all in the high On 4/18/07, Andri Wijaya andri.wijaya @ wrote: hajar truz bozz index lagi distribusi, prepare yourselves On 4/18/07, Investor Bonex investorbonex@ wrote: Apakah yield 7% (gross) kurang menarik utk company sekelas INCO ? Ada bbrp kemungkinan : - Bandar masih kurang muatannya - Ngusir lalat2 pengganggu makan siang - Ato emang produksi INCO bakal berkurang 1Q07 krn capacity damnya reduced. ANy comment is welcome. Salam Bonex -- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48245/*http://autos.yahoo.com/new_c a rs.html;_ylc=X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsD b mV3LWNhcnM- - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Indonesia's Medco Energi 2006 net profit down 49 pct on cost increases
Iya... Ini sih buy.. Pantesan full yearnya gue tunggu2x gak keluar. Taunya dia
nunggu
penjualan lapindo beres. One-time transaction only...
- Original Message
From: Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 6:19:49 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Indonesia's Medco Energi 2006 net profit down 49
pct on cost increases
Akhirnya berita yang ditunggu-tunggu datang juga..
Udah gatel mau bottom fishing ini saham
On 4/19/07, Aria Bela Nusa [EMAIL PROTECTED] net.id wrote:
LAVENDA – he…he…
Regards,
Aria
From:
obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On
Behalf Of gitto kurniasanto
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 2:24 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Indonesia's Medco Energi 2006 net profit down 49
pct on cost increases
haaah untung ngambilnya di avg 2950...buang sauh deh besok^^...I hate
non-growth company.
[
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Indonesia's Medco Energi 2006 net profit down 49 pct on cost increases
JAKARTA (XFN-ASIA) - PT Medco Energi Internasional said its 2006 net profit
dropped 49 pct year-on-year to
38.1 mln usd from 74.7 mln due to cost increases.
It said its sales rose 28 pct year-on-year to 792.4 mln usd supported by higher
oil and gas prices.
Medco said its average oil price increased to 63.98 usd bpd in 2006 from
53.68 usd in 2005, while the average gas price appreciated to 2.79 usd per
mmbtu (million British thermal units) from 2.45 usd per mmbtu in 2005.
In addition to higher oil and gas prices, the contribution from its drilling
services to its revenue also jumped to
148.1 mln usd in 2006 from 105 mln a year before, it said.
However, Medco's operating profit fell sharply to 180.0 mln usd from 239. 3 mln
due to increases in production costs, drilling operation costs, and exploration
expenses.
It said another big expense was the loss borne by its unit Medco EP Brantas
amounting to 61.7 mln usd due to the decrease in asset value, provision of cash
call expenses, and depletion of the asset itself, as a result of the Lapindo
mud incident.
Medco has recently reached a deal to sell Medco EP Brantas to PT Prakarsa
Cipta Abadi and PT Prakarsa Cipta Selaras for 100 usd.
Medco Brantas holds a 32 pct interest in the Brantas gas block. A gas well in
the block located in Porong, East Java, has been spewing out mud since last May
that has inundated neighboring villages and farmland.
The block is operated by Lapindo Brantas Inc, which owns a 50 pct working
interest in the block. The remaining 18 pct interest is held by Australia's
Santos Brantas Pty Ltd.
Commenting on business prospects for this year, Medco said it is optimistic its
financial performance will improve as it will continue to seize opportunities
for business growth domestically and internationally.
It said before the end of this year, it will begin operations of its
multi-feedstock bio ethanol production facility in Lampung, the largest in
Indonesia to date.
It also earmarked 400 mln usd capital expenditure for 2007.
(1 usd = 9,091 rupiah)
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Short Sell
Back to basic saja pak: The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent. - J.M. Keynes - Original Message From: Odink [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:52:01 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Short Sell hehee koq ditawar terus sih.. kemaren 12rb short, 14rb short, 15500 pun jg short, skr dinaekin lagi.. coba kemaren dari 12rb long.. udah hemat brp kali fee tuh pak? kl nanti ternyata tutup di 15700 spt yg sampeyan bilang, apakah itu termasuk kategori april mop? On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:41:48 +0700, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kalau Bozz berani narik ANTM ke level 685% FIBO tanpa ada koreksi, maka memang anda benar2 akan buat history di dunia persahaman dan akan masuk sebagai salah satu stock yang bisa lari hingga menembus level 423% Yahoo! Groups Links 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Short Sell
Short CPDA... TP 25
(Ca Pe De Ah)
- Original Message
From: Eddy S. Purnomo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:09:21 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Short Sell
Boleh donk ! Why not ? kalau yang di short barang
sendiri, cover shortnya dua tahun lagi juga boleh, tidak di cover/buyback juga
boleh. You should try that Mr. FS, short barang sendiri
hue..he..he. ..he
- Original Message -
From:
Frederick
Schubert
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:45
PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Short
Sell
it's wrong answerthe nature of the question is how can u short
something for one month? come on...don't get it too personal if
you can inform us the best broking that can give us one month...i think even
lehman in the u.s. will become your customer .
cheers
James Arifin james.arifin@ gmail.com
wrote:
Kalau bagian ini kasih ke boss VIC ama pemain besar aja .. hehehh ..
pemain kroco seperti saya minggir aja ... hehehe .. Bozz memang hebat
berani
lewati perbatasan, sayang kehabisan amunisi ... vic ama pemain besar
harusnya bisa nolongin biar tutupnya di atas 15500 -15700 biar level
berikutnya ke 16900
On 4/11/07, Odink
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wrote:
jadi
kapan nih rekomend BUY nya, saya tunggu lho.. heheee
On Wed, 11 Apr
2007 14:06:38 +0700, James Arifin james.arifin@ gmail.com
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Short Sell
Just remember: Bulls make money, Bears make money, Pigs just get slaughtered another one: Never short sell on valuations!! Do not short sell just because you think the price of such a security is too high, based on valuation. Stocks that are expensive tends to get more expensive, some investment manager somewhere is just gonna crush you with their buying, so you would never have time to buy back in cheaper. - Jim Cramer Real Money example: TINS.JK hadizhan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terima kasih untuk rekomendasi short selling yang disampaikan pak James. Kalau saja banyak dari kita-kita ini bisa menjalankan rekomendasi tersebut dalam prakteknya. Namun apa daya, fasilitas untuk short selling tak punya. Yang menjadi kendala bagi sebagian kita-kita ini (saya :-)adalah bagaimana menemukan sekuritas yang memberikan fasilitas short selling, bisa seminggu saja sudah cukup, apalagi yang bisa satu bulan. Adakah syarat-syarat tertentu, misalnya besar permodalan, kedekatan hubungan (dengan sekuritas), dll agar bisa mendapat fasilitas short selling. Kalau sekiranya berkenan, bolehlah kiranya pak James atau para sesepuh lainnya memberikan petunjuk sekuritas mana yang memberi fasilitas short selling, serta persyaratannya apa saja, Apakah ada sekuritas online seperti etrading dll yang memberikan fasilitas short selling ini. Dengan adanya informasi ini, harapannya adalah kita-kita tidak sekedar melongo mendengar anjuran pak James, melainkan bisa ikut nyemplung berenang bersama pak James. Terima kasih untuk petunjuknya sekecil apapun petunjuk itu. Hadi --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, balifade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---saya tidak jarang short pagi, menjelang siang harga dah turun dikit tapi jelang penutupan harga naik tinggi, terpaksa deh bb eh besok paginya hrga turun banyak. kalo short bisa 1 bln asik bgt tuh, gimana bung james dan sesepuh2 bagi ilmunya dong.thx In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Susanto Winarto susanto_winarto@ wrote: Pak James, Short sell itu, menurut saya lebih beasr untung2an-nya dibanding analisanya kali yah? Kadang harga sudah terlalu tinggi, tapi tetep aja naik terus Kadang udah naik, sorenya jadi minus... Mohon pencerahannya pak... Thanks. - Original Message - From: Mr. Boen To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Short Sell berat dech bang rasanya ... any way, saya kayaknya mesti banyak belajar dulu nih . On 4/9/07, James Arifin james.arifin@ wrote: Rekomendasi saya bisa saja salah, contohnya ANTM hari ini balik dan harusnya siapa saja yang short sell di bawah 14000 harus pasang cut loss di 14050-14100, sehingga implikasi dari berbaliknya market dari analisa TA tetap terantisipasi. Next level untuk short ANTM di 15500 kalau tercapai, silakan test short sell lagi tapi ingat stop loss dan don't be greedy kalau sudah turun jangan ingin untung gede2 karena market overall masih bullish dan short sell saat ini hanya untuk mengikuti pergerakan market saja ... Semoga bermanfaat. On 4/9/07, Bambang S bangsur@ wrote: saya sudah coba cuma 2 lot seh di tins jual kamis kemarin di 12 850 td pagi beli lagi 12350 mayan kan...buat coba2 aja ko --- Giri giriacckl@ wrote: Memang sih bebas dan suka2. Short sell di saat pasar bullish ini beresiko sangat tinggi kecuali ilmunya sudah tinggi. Dan untuk bulan April ini, LKQ1 07 akan keluar. IHSG baru break new high. Bila ada yang berani short sell, silahkan saja... Selamat mencoba, semoga Oentung peace - Original Message - From: Johand Dimalouw To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Short Sell Bebas, suka-suka. Tiada yang punya kuasa untuk larang khan. JD - Original Message From: Giri giriacckl@ To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 9, 2007 9:07:10 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Short Sell saya juga geleng2 kepala aja... jadi tripping :D - Original Message - From: James Arifin To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Short Sell
Another one Contrary to what people believe, short selling is *NOT* popular. Dont ever brag that you short sell-ed or especially thinking of short selling a security. Think of it like poker, let's say you have a couple thou on the pot and holding a pair of two's... You know you have absolutely no chance against the other persons on the table. Short selling is basically like bluffing out the rest of the players to give in. Very, very risky approach to investing, especially when JSX rules out any long term short selling. Unless you have a very, very, very good reason to short, say like you think that the fundamental of a company would deteriorate in the long run, or say basemetals prices should correct deeply shaking out all the bulls on the market, the strategy should probably be left to professionals on another market. Consider also that statistically the stock market has been going up for the past 100 years, so betting against any sharp deterioration of market value would only work in very short runs... Happy Safe Investing. P.S: I'm really a fundamental person, so I only use technicals to time my entry and exit of the market... - Original Message From: James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:33:15 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Short Sell hhehehe ... absolutely agreed but if you believe wave counting then there is time for correction and do you want to dive with the correction wave or do you want to ride it? It's your choice On 4/10/07, Mr. T [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: Just remember: Bulls make money, Bears make money, Pigs just get slaughtered another one: Never short sell on valuations!! Do not short sell just because you think the price of such a security is too high, based on valuation. Stocks that are expensive tends to get more expensive, some investment manager somewhere is just gonna crush you with their buying, so you would never have time to buy back in cheaper. - Jim Cramer Real Money example: TINS.JK hadizhan [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: Terima kasih untuk rekomendasi short selling yang disampaikan pak James. Kalau saja banyak dari kita-kita ini bisa menjalankan rekomendasi tersebut dalam prakteknya. Namun apa daya, fasilitas untuk short selling tak punya. Yang menjadi kendala bagi sebagian kita-kita ini (saya :-)adalah bagaimana menemukan sekuritas yang memberikan fasilitas short selling, bisa seminggu saja sudah cukup, apalagi yang bisa satu bulan. Adakah syarat-syarat tertentu, misalnya besar permodalan, kedekatan hubungan (dengan sekuritas), dll agar bisa mendapat fasilitas short selling. Kalau sekiranya berkenan, bolehlah kiranya pak James atau para sesepuh lainnya memberikan petunjuk sekuritas mana yang memberi fasilitas short selling, serta persyaratannya apa saja, Apakah ada sekuritas online seperti etrading dll yang memberikan fasilitas short selling ini. Dengan adanya informasi ini, harapannya adalah kita-kita tidak sekedar melongo mendengar anjuran pak James, melainkan bisa ikut nyemplung berenang bersama pak James. Terima kasih untuk petunjuknya sekecil apapun petunjuk itu. Hadi --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com , balifade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---saya tidak jarang short pagi, menjelang siang harga dah turun dikit tapi jelang penutupan harga naik tinggi, terpaksa deh bb eh besok paginya hrga turun banyak. kalo short bisa 1 bln asik bgt tuh, gimana bung james dan sesepuh2 bagi ilmunya dong.thx In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Susanto Winarto susanto_winarto@ wrote: Pak James, Short sell itu, menurut saya lebih beasr untung2an-nya dibanding analisanya kali yah? Kadang harga sudah terlalu tinggi, tapi tetep aja naik terus Kadang udah naik, sorenya jadi minus... Mohon pencerahannya pak... Thanks. - Original Message - From: Mr. Boen To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Short Sell berat dech bang rasanya ... any way, saya kayaknya mesti banyak belajar dulu nih . On 4/9/07, James Arifin james.arifin@ wrote: Rekomendasi saya bisa saja salah, contohnya ANTM hari ini balik dan harusnya siapa saja yang short sell di bawah 14000 harus pasang cut loss di 14050-14100, sehingga implikasi dari berbaliknya market dari analisa TA tetap terantisipasi. Next level untuk short ANTM di 15500 kalau tercapai, silakan test short sell lagi tapi ingat stop loss dan don't be greedy kalau sudah turun jangan ingin untung gede2 karena market overall masih bullish dan short sell saat ini hanya untuk mengikuti pergerakan market saja ... Semoga bermanfaat. On 4/9/07, Bambang S bangsur@ wrote: saya sudah coba cuma 2 lot seh di tins jual kamis kemarin di 12 850 td pagi beli lagi 12350 mayan kan
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Dividen INCO Lebih 100% (sumber: indofinanz.com)
Retained earningsnya gede banget si INCO. udah ngumpulin cash dari kapan tau
(kalau gak salah in the tunes of $400 million, please some1 confirm),
dengan DER yang rendah pengembangan ke depan bisa di leverage dengan future
cashflows.
Bahasa Manusianya:
Kasih cuan skr buat shareholder, lalu untuk ke depan proyek 1 billion dollarnya
bisa
ngutang, toh masih lama ini (2010).
Yang jelas, para gembong2x nickel dunia (CVRD, BHP Billiton, Xstrata)
are in no hurry to invest in new mines, so they can keep the supply low
and prices high. Basic economics.
peace out,
Gembong Nickel Indonesia
- Original Message
From: Asep Buhori [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 4:05:34 PM
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Dividen INCO Lebih 100% (sumber: indofinanz.com)
maksud sy gini kalo semua laba dibagiin berarti gak
ada dari laba 2006 yang diinvest lg untuk menciptakan
pertumbuhan?
--- Sudeswanto samsudesyang@ sinarmassekurita s.co.id
wrote:
growth apa yang anda maksud?
mengenai mama lauren bahwa inco ke 70rb, udah ada di
bloomberg...
-Original Message-
From: Asep Buhori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] com]
Sent: 30 Maret 2007 15:18
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Dividen INCO Lebih
100% (sumber:
indofinanz.com)
trus gmn growthnya ?
apa sengaja inco nahan2 dulu?
--- Sudeswanto
samsudesyang@ sinarmassekurita s.co.id
wrote:
PT International Nikel Indonesia Tbk (INCO)
memutuskan membagikan dividen
tahun buku 2006 sebesar US$521 juta pada 11 Mei
2007. Berarti keuntungan
yang dibagikan kepada para pemegang saham di
atas
100% dari perolehan laba
bersih tahun lalu senilai US$513 juta.
Dividen yang akan dibagikan terdiri dari dividen
final untuk tahun 2006
sebesar US$0.5 per saham, yang terdiri dari
US$0.025
dividen final dan
dividen luar biasa sebesar US$0.475 per saham.
Adanya pembagian dividen luar
biasa karena kinerja perseroan tahun lalu
terbilang
lebih bagik dari tahun
sebelumnya.
Direktur Investor Relation dan Sekretaris
Perusahaan
INCO Indra Ginting,
usai Rapat Umum Pemegang Saham (RUPS), di
Jakarta,
Jumat (30/03),
mengatakan, tambahan dana buat dividen itu
berasal
dari laba ditahan yang
sudah mencapai US$1.2 milyar. Dividen akan
diberikan
kepada para pemegang
saham yang terdaftar tanggal 27 April mendatang.
Best Regards,
SAMUEL SUDESWANTO YEUNG
(http://samsudesyang .blogs.friendste r.com/sudeswanto /)
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Nickel koreksi lagi
Kayaknya kebalik dia, mungkin ngomong harga spot?
- Original Message
From: Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 11:22:39 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Nickel koreksi lagi
Maksudnya? ini data dari penutupan LME kemarin.
agung2a [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:
ini mah prakiraan yang meleset jauh dari kenyataan, sekarang sdh break
50,000 USD/ton!!
Agoeng2a
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Rei highwaystar91@ ... wrote:
Inco akan jatuh lagi hari ini? Antm? We shall see.
London 16:59
NICKEL ENDS $2,000 OR 4.3 PERCENT LOWER ON LME, AT $44,600 A
TONNE
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Nickel koreksi lagi
Hmm... Copper di shanghai udah balik Contango lagi
(Harga spot cheaper than Future price), menandakan
ample short term supplies. Kita lihat bagaimana nasib nickel..
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20602013sid=axxSnsCkx9Tkrefer=commodity_futures
- Original Message
From: Teddy Halim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 12:08:29 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Nickel koreksi lagi
Maksudnya Rp.50.000 per lembar saham saya rasa.
Data di LME sih turun harga nikel udah 2 hari ini.
Entah kalau ada data lebih baru lagi tengah malam buta di London atau bursa
lain?
On 3/21/07, Mr. T [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:
Kayaknya kebalik dia, mungkin ngomong harga spot?
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INCO ALERT for TRADER
gak ikutan yah?? heheheh
- Original Message
From: highwaystar91 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 11:05:21 AM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INCO ALERT for TRADER
Kalo buat investor pak? hehe... trims berat.
Salam,
Rei
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Jack Cowok jackcowok2@ ...
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Buat para trader,
Hati-hati. Anti klimaks
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO
INCO mau RUPSLB tanggal 14 Maret ini Gosip sih cuan dividend gede, secara owner sekarang CVRD baru ngutang besar banget untuk beli INCO.. Disclaimer loh... - Original Message From: Odink [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2007 4:11:19 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO smtr ini nickel melejit tembus usd 20.5/lb good luck Yahoo! Groups Links Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097
Re: [obrolan-bandar] APBN 2008, PTBA
Hehehehe, buy now when it's still rumors sell on news...
- Original Message
From: Bonardo Paruntungan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 8:56:54 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] APBN 2008, PTBA
wahhebat. .
masa sih sumatera double track... kan relnya sepi pak.. lah wong sehari paling
2 KA penumpang arah palembang - lampung.. dan sebaliknya
sedangkan babaranjang paling 1 kali kertapati - lampung,
belum lagi orang KA sendiri ngak concern bisnis KA sumatera..
artinya secara bisnis rugi sekali pakai double track... paling 10 tahun lagi...
tapi toh kalu kejadian.. yah baiklah...
EKA SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:
Kabarnya dana rel double track Trans Sumatera yg melewati /cakup
tambang PTBA akan diajukan utk APBN 2008 Mudah2an kejadian.
So ada 2 kejadian utk 'masuk' kembali ke PTBA:
1. Trans Sumatera Rail--double track , dananya disetujui DPR utk 2008
2. Tetep yg paling besar-tunggu apakah Pemerintah mau bangun
'INTERKONEKSI LISTRIK' SUMATERA-JAWA.
Kalo itu sudah ada news nya beli PTBA.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] suspend CNKO ?
Hajar pasar nego aja. ada yang bid tuh di 60an
- Original Message
From: Abraham Sihombing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 11:05:07 AM
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] suspend CNKO ?
Panik
benerrr kelihatannya, nehh...
Barangnya banyak yang nyangkut yah, Lae?
Kalo
udah bisa keluar dengan selamat...jangan coba2 masuk lagi yah,
Lae?
Buahayaaa... buangee. ..tuhh... kalu banyak nyang nyangkut jadi puyeng,
kan...puyeng kepala...puyeng juga kantong.
:-)
-Original Message-
From:
obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com]On
Behalf Of Hotma Sirait
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 9:44
AM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject:
[obrolan-bandar] suspend CNKO ?
bapak2/ ibu2 petinggi BEJ yang pantau milis ini suspend CNKO-nya sudah
kelamaan tuh.any comment from the milis audience menurut peraturannya
berapa lama sih suatu saham bisa di-suspend dan apa kriteria suatu saham
di-suspend (agak2 grey area nih) ? karena kalau tidak ada batasannya dan
kenapanya yang jelas, pemain kecil seperti saya ini jadi bingung
nih.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] CNKO
Heran... masih ada aja yang maen saham2x beginian.. Kalau bandar nya
selesai, tar sama modelnya
kayak TOTL. Tapi yang ini lebih parah, karena COMPANY-nya KOSONG. Alias gak ada
isinya
Ck ck Turut prihatin.
- Original Message
From: rivan man [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 3:03:12 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] CNKO
ini hanya perkiraan saya balik ke 25 perak kalo saya perkirakan,tp jangan
patokan pada saya tetap ur self patokannya.
God Bless U
Rvn
saidkat [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:
jam 14:54 sudah berhasil di tekan ke 75.
mari kita tunggu sampai berapa di tekannya.
penggemar cnko harap tenang dulu deh, target belum
sampai.
SM baru buang 107 rebu lot. Barang masih banyak.
tunggu di bawah 70.
yang mau short udah boleh kayaknya.
disclaimer.
5410
- Original Message -
From: saidkat
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. .com
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] CNKO
lebih serem lagi kayaknya mo diteken ke bawah 80,
SM masih pegang banyak dengen average di atas 120,
kalo bisa sampe di bawah 80 dia bakal average lebih bagus.
dari tanggal 27/12/06 sampai jam ini SM masih net buy 2,191,072 di harga avg
127,01.
kayaknya mo di average di harga ipo kali ya, inget saya sih iponya kan 105.
Sebrapa kuat SM lawan pasukan receh di YP bisa kita lihat minggu depan.
Soalnya YP koleksi di avg 117 n net buy 127,136.
silahkan tapsirkan sendiri deh, yang penting waspadalah n tidak emosi
nubruk.
seperti biasa disclaimer berlaku.
5410
- Original Message -
From: johannes zakaria
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] CNKO
Deara Iki
Akan di jual harga dibawa 91?
Thks
- Original Message
From: Iki [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 3:35:12 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] CNKO
Hati-hati..
Akan ada rencana aksi jual
besar-besaran, bukan buat Goreng-gorengan tapi Yg jual ini memang butuh dana
darurat agar bisa hidup
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Lupakan TINS........
Short sell.. TP 2500.
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From: Investor Bonex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2007 6:32:20 AM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Lupakan TINS
Lupakan TINS..
Pemko Babel uda gak tahan utk puasa dari hot money cukong2 illegal smelter.
Bagaimana mungkin dg mudahnya illegal2 smelter memenuhi syarat yg ditetapkan
Memperindag utk memperoduksi timah dg kemurnian 99.9% dan memenuhi syarat Amdal
...
Otonomi daerah lebih meciptakan raja2 kecil yg males tapi pingin cepat kaya
!!!
Dasar bangsa korup !!!
-
Five Indonesian tin smelters get government OK to restart Jakarta
(Platts)--5Feb2007 Five tin smelters on the Indonesian island of Bangka are
able to resume operation following the issuance of permits from the local
government, as they meet proper requirements for tin smelting, a government
official told Platts Monday. The smelters are among 17 smelters which
have submitted proposals to secure a license for tin smelting, local
government spokesman Latief Pribadi said, adding that the five smelters
permitted to resume operations were CV DS Jaya Abadi, PT Bangka Putra Karya,
PT Bukit Timah, CV Duta Putra Bangka and PT Bilitin Makmur. They have
met the requirements on tin smelting and already have an approval from Bangka
Belitung's governor, Latief said. The mining and energy department of Bangka
Belitung province has verified seven of the 17 smelters which have applied for
a permit, he said, adding: Five among them have secured an approval from
governor, while other two smelters are still in the verification process.
Tin smelters operating in Indonesia are required to comply
with government regulations in order to be allowed to operate. The Indonesian
government has clamped down on refined tin exports in a bid to ban
uncontrolled mining activity and increase revenues from royalty payments.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] ada isu apa SMMA kok harganya loncat 33%
Ever heard of APP (Asia Pulp Paper) ?. Invest in Sinar Mas at your own
risk..
- Original Message
From: Febry Hariyannugraha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 10:01:31 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ada isu apa SMMA kok harganya loncat 33%
Pernah ada yang mengatakan, group Sinar Mas itu bahaya ... bener nggak sih ?
Thanks.
FH
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM : Last call to check out
Model2x kayak ANTM/INCO sih gak usah pake analisa2x aneh2x.. Tinggal liat aja
closing Nickel Price
di LME kemarennya. Kalau mau analisa, ya analisa harga Nickel itu sendiri,
karena sebenernya INCO/ANTM
hanya proxy untuk betting on nickel commodity prices.
- Original Message
From: Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 4:13:12 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM : Last call to check out
ANTAM closed higher.. pakhehehehe
cheers
Sudeswanto samsudesyang@ sinarmassekurita s.co.id wrote:
Secara teknikal, ANTM juga sudah memasuki teritori negatif dan berpeluang
menjadi partner TLKM ASII dalam penurunan index
Please protect your capital and profit...
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] kija. target 215
kayaaknya sih Profit taking dulu orang2x. kemaren naeknya kegedean. Lagian
indeks -30.. Pada kabur dulu kayaknya...
- Original Message
From: herman ardiyanto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 2:56:14 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] kija. target 215
udah dilego belum, abah? mesti ganti gigi dulu nih, barangkali ada
turunan di depan. target sih masih dua ratus belasan.
On 1/24/07, abah [EMAIL PROTECTED] net.id wrote:
Tahu mau naik kenceng, belinya lebih banyak lagi.
Terlampir ulasan kija dari bnp paribas
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: OOT-Kontak MAKINTA
- Original Message
From: Siswa Rizali [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 5:56:10 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: OOT-Kontak MAKINTA
wah banyak yg kagum sama Makinta nih.
saya juga kagum berat ama Makinta.
sempat ngobok2 situs Bapepam sktr akhir November 2006, dan dapat yg
berikut:
Makinta Mantap - SAHAM
1 MULTI INDOCITRA Tbk Saham (MICE)
2 RICKY PUTRA GLOBALINDO Tbk Saham (RICY)
3 SUMALINDO LESTARI JAYA Tbk Saham (SULI)
4 CITRA MARGA NUSAPHALA PERSADA Tbk Saham (CMNP)
5 CIPUTRA SURYA Tbk Saham (CTRS)
6 RADIANT UTAMA INTERINSCO Tbk Saham (RUIS)
7 TELEKOMUNIKASI INDONESIA Tbk Saham (TLKM)
8 PERUSAHAAN GAS NEGARA (PERSERO) Tbk Saham (PGAS)
9 MEDCO ENERGI INTERNASIONAL Tbk Saham (MEDC)
10 TUNAS RIDEAN Tbk Saham (TURI)
Makinta Fleksi - Campuran
Konon katanya, denger denger sih, ada yang bilang, bahwa komposisi di saham
yang saya highlight itu buesaarr sekali... Taun lalu kan mereka
restructuring, lihat lapkeu-nya maret nanti. Kalo bener berhasil, ya berarti
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] TOTL ga gerak ya ?
bandarnya lagi cuti TOTL
- Original Message
From: Masrivana Yusran [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 12:15:01 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] TOTL ga gerak ya ?
selamat siang semuanya,,,saya baru belajar mau maen
saham, infonya TOTL gmna ya ?
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] OOT-Kontak MAKINTA
Denger2x sih, investasi Makinta sangat besar pada salah satu saham per-kayuan
di Indonesia.
Tau sendiri lah yang mana
- Original Message
From: Vellysia Ade Gunawan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 8:18:12 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] OOT-Kontak MAKINTA
Betul sekali
returnnya lebih dari 100% dalam 1 th terakhir ini.
Silahkan menghub:
5140 1133
Apabila ingin bertanya mengenai Reksadana, minta
disambungkan dengan bagian Reksadana (Bpk Cahyo atau
Ibu Anggi)
Kebetulan saya sangat mengenal Makinta.
semoga bisa membantu
--- win winwiranata@ yahoo.com. sg wrote:
Apakah MAKINTA yg dimaksud ini perusahaan sekuritas
yg menjual reksadana? kalau iya, saya juga mau donk
contact number-nya.
soalnya saya liat dikoran return reksadana saham
-nya 100 % dlm 1 tahun terakhir.
thanks
- Original Message -
From: Vellysia Ade Gunawan
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] OOT-Kontak MAKINTA
pak Iwan,
kalau boleh tau temennya mau tanya soal ap dengan
Makinta?
kebetulan saya tau contact numbernya, tapi mungkin
bapak bisa kasih tau saya untuk urusan ap (jadi
saya
tidak salah kasih reference name ke bapak)
--- Iwan [EMAIL PROTECTED] net.id wrote:
Bapak-Bapak / Ibu-ibu ada yang tau
alamat/telepon
MAKINTA ? atau siapa dealernya, temen saya ada
yang
nanya.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] OOT-Kontak MAKINTA
NAB reksadana liat di www.bapepam.go.id (kalo gak salah).
Ada semua holding Reksadana2x... Coba aja liat si Makinta pegangnya apa aja
- Original Message
From: mahfud67 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 12:34:55 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] OOT-Kontak MAKINTA
Isi webnya tidak lengkap,produk2nya tidak ada dalam
web, nab reksadananya juga nggak ada.
- Original Message -
From:
Agung
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 4:48
AM
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] OOT-Kontak
MAKINTA
Ini alamat web sitenya http://www.makintas ec.com/bussiness .html
dan ini contact telpnya 021-51401133
semoga membantu dan
berguna
Salam
From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com] On Behalf Of
win
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 10:48 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject:
Re: [obrolan-bandar] OOT-Kontak MAKINTA
Apakah MAKINTA yg dimaksud ini perusahaan
sekuritas yg menjual reksadana? kalau iya, saya juga mau donk contact
number-nya.
soalnya saya liat dikoran return reksadana saham
-nya 100 % dlm 1 tahun terakhir.
thanks
- Original Message -
From: Vellysia Ade
Gunawan
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 7:34
PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar]
OOT-Kontak MAKINTA
pak Iwan,
kalau boleh tau temennya mau tanya soal ap
dengan
Makinta?
kebetulan saya tau contact numbernya, tapi
mungkin
bapak bisa kasih tau saya untuk urusan ap (jadi saya
tidak
salah kasih reference name ke bapak)
--- Iwan [EMAIL PROTECTED] net.id
wrote:
Bapak-Bapak / Ibu-ibu ada yang tau alamat/telepon
MAKINTA ? atau siapa dealernya, temen saya ada yang
nanya.
thanks
.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] MANA TUH MR. FS???
kayaknya barusan beli ya... 11 ribu lot heheheheh
- Original Message
From: Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 5:21:43 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] MANA TUH MR. FS???
wua a. . ...thought u are very saktiso
that u don't need anybody's help
hehehehe...and. ...never said that i WOULD jack up pgas shares.
but, in the long term horizoni must say PGAS remains ATTRACTIVE.. .WATCH
IT
pendekarsaktisekali pendekarsaktisekali @yahoo.com wrote:
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Sesudah PGAS, PTBA kah?
Silahkan rekan2x hajar ke bawah.. Saya akan siap nampung lagi... HEHEHEHEHEHE...
- Original Message
From: hst auto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:40:10 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Sesudah PGAS, PTBA kah?
katanya mau dihajar kebawah nih PTBA.. mana nih?
direksinya kurang canggih.. proyek molor terus gak jelas sampe kapan.
mestinya mereka langsung aware dgn kasus PGAS yang dihajar sampe gak ada yang
berani nge-bid!!
gw dukung dana untuk menghajar PTBA kebawah.
gimana yang lain kapan eksekusinya. ??
On 1/19/07, Bonardo Paruntungan
lawlegalious@ yahoo.com wrote:
hmm.. pak EKA...
direksi lama memang ngak bagus.. tapi DIRUT sekarang eks geng lama...
yang baru cuman 3 keuangannya geng lama.. kpercayaan Meneg BUMN...
kasus PTBA sejak jajaran direksi yang dulu... gagal negosiasi terus jadi
kasusnya di leadernya... dan sang MAESTRO BUMN... cuman bilang apa semua
dibawah rata-rata kayak bukan dia juga. hahaha..hahaha
PTBA . .. kalu ada koreksi dibawah 3000 saya ikut anda pak
EKA terjunlah dikau PTBA tapi
cheers
Loan Napit [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
wrote:
Saatnya PTBA . ?
Pada tanggal 07/01/15, Rei
highwaystar91@ yahoo.com menulis: 2500 dulu biar ke 5000 kan 100% ya,
hehehe...
Karno Edy [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:
Dari chartnya jelas, kejatuhan harganya sudah di bawah bulan Mei (break low,
kebalikan yg disukai Pak Budi break high).
2500-an saya kira cukup menarik.
- Original Message -
From:
EKA SUWANDANA
To:
obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 12:31 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Sesudah PGAS, PTBA kah?
Tahun 2006 ketika the fed naik buan Mei, ANTM juga kena guyuran sampai 3700
dari 6100, rumor right, dsb, numpang press rilis FENI III ditunda. Tapi orang2
nggak gitu lihat ada apa soalnya market overall bearish.
Sekarang PGAS , SSWJ I ditunda 3 bulan, diperosotin separuh. Ibaratnya orang
yg koleksi celananya diambil terus digunting. Padahal
nggak ada apa2.
Berikutnya sepertinya PTBA, dan seharusnya PTBA turun, Bangko , Banjarsari
ditunda 3 tahun, direksi yg lama di'hukum'. Let's see. Gw ada feeling PTBA
bakal dikerjain lebih dalam.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Sesudah PGAS, PTBA kah?
PTBA is going to 4000 very soon.. just wait and see..
- Original Message
From: hst auto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:40:10 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Sesudah PGAS, PTBA kah?
katanya mau dihajar kebawah nih PTBA.. mana nih?
direksinya kurang canggih.. proyek molor terus gak jelas sampe kapan.
mestinya mereka langsung aware dgn kasus PGAS yang dihajar sampe gak ada yang
berani nge-bid!!
gw dukung dana untuk menghajar PTBA kebawah.
gimana yang lain kapan eksekusinya. ??
On 1/19/07, Bonardo Paruntungan
lawlegalious@ yahoo.com wrote:
hmm.. pak EKA...
direksi lama memang ngak bagus.. tapi DIRUT sekarang eks geng lama...
yang baru cuman 3 keuangannya geng lama.. kpercayaan Meneg BUMN...
kasus PTBA sejak jajaran direksi yang dulu... gagal negosiasi terus jadi
kasusnya di leadernya... dan sang MAESTRO BUMN... cuman bilang apa semua
dibawah rata-rata kayak bukan dia juga. hahaha..hahaha
PTBA . .. kalu ada koreksi dibawah 3000 saya ikut anda pak
EKA terjunlah dikau PTBA tapi
cheers
Loan Napit [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
wrote:
Saatnya PTBA . ?
Pada tanggal 07/01/15, Rei
highwaystar91@ yahoo.com menulis: 2500 dulu biar ke 5000 kan 100% ya,
hehehe...
Karno Edy [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:
Dari chartnya jelas, kejatuhan harganya sudah di bawah bulan Mei (break low,
kebalikan yg disukai Pak Budi break high).
2500-an saya kira cukup menarik.
- Original Message -
From:
EKA SUWANDANA
To:
obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 12:31 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Sesudah PGAS, PTBA kah?
Tahun 2006 ketika the fed naik buan Mei, ANTM juga kena guyuran sampai 3700
dari 6100, rumor right, dsb, numpang press rilis FENI III ditunda. Tapi orang2
nggak gitu lihat ada apa soalnya market overall bearish.
Sekarang PGAS , SSWJ I ditunda 3 bulan, diperosotin separuh. Ibaratnya orang
yg koleksi celananya diambil terus digunting. Padahal
nggak ada apa2.
Berikutnya sepertinya PTBA, dan seharusnya PTBA turun, Bangko , Banjarsari
ditunda 3 tahun, direksi yg lama di'hukum'. Let's see. Gw ada feeling PTBA
bakal dikerjain lebih dalam.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] STOP bicara PGAS !
PGAS - How to spot bottoms:
1. When the news had already came
2. When every analysts had revised their target price down.
3. When anybody who doesnt want or care about the stock had already dumped.
4. When any more bad news cannot budge the price down
That's when u hit bottom
DISCLAIMER: This is not a recommendation to buy or sell any particular
security...
- Original Message
From: www.titan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 4:37:30 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] STOP bicara PGAS !
PGAS mulu bosenn,
kalo gak salah udah 10 hari sejak turunnya (kalo gak salah :)) )
jadi bentar lg nanti juga akan naik lagi, collect or leave it
mending skrg omongin yg lain dulu aja ..
atau cari cuan dari yg sedang ramai , gak usah pusing fundamental dan
rumor.. hhehehe Ada yg setuju ???
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Mr. T lamiensapi@ ... wrote:
PTBA is going to 4000 very soon.. just wait and see..
- Original Message
From: hst auto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:40:10 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Sesudah PGAS, PTBA kah?
katanya mau dihajar kebawah nih PTBA.. mana nih?
direksinya kurang canggih.. proyek molor terus gak jelas sampe kapan.
mestinya mereka langsung aware dgn kasus PGAS yang dihajar sampe gak
ada yang berani nge-bid!!
gw dukung dana untuk menghajar PTBA kebawah.
gimana yang lain kapan eksekusinya. ??
On 1/19/07, Bonardo Paruntungan
lawlegalious@ yahoo.com wrote:
hmm.. pak EKA...
direksi lama memang ngak bagus.. tapi DIRUT sekarang eks geng lama...
yang baru cuman 3 keuangannya geng lama.. kpercayaan Meneg BUMN...
kasus PTBA sejak jajaran direksi yang dulu... gagal negosiasi
terus jadi kasusnya di leadernya... dan sang MAESTRO BUMN... cuman
bilang apa semua dibawah rata-rata kayak bukan dia juga.
hahaha..hahaha
PTBA . .. kalu ada koreksi dibawah 3000 saya ikut
anda pak EKA terjunlah dikau PTBA tapi
cheers
Loan Napit [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
wrote:
Saatnya PTBA . ?
Pada tanggal 07/01/15, Rei
highwaystar91@ yahoo.com menulis: 2500 dulu biar ke 5000 kan
100% ya, hehehe...
Karno Edy [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:
Dari chartnya jelas, kejatuhan harganya sudah di bawah bulan Mei
(break low, kebalikan yg disukai Pak Budi break high).
2500-an saya kira cukup menarik.
- Original Message -
From:
EKA SUWANDANA
To:
obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 12:31 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Sesudah PGAS, PTBA kah?
Tahun 2006 ketika the fed naik buan Mei, ANTM juga kena guyuran
sampai 3700 dari 6100, rumor right, dsb, numpang press rilis FENI III
ditunda. Tapi orang2 nggak gitu lihat ada apa soalnya market overall
bearish.
Sekarang PGAS , SSWJ I ditunda 3 bulan, diperosotin separuh.
Ibaratnya orang yg koleksi celananya diambil terus digunting. Padahal
nggak ada apa2.
Berikutnya sepertinya PTBA, dan seharusnya PTBA turun, Bangko ,
Banjarsari ditunda 3 tahun, direksi yg lama di'hukum'. Let's see. Gw
ada feeling PTBA bakal dikerjain lebih dalam.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Tanya SMAR
Dont touch Sinar Mas. Once you get in, you can never get out. Trust me
- Original Message
From: Christian Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Milis Obrolan Bandar obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 12:09:41 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Tanya SMAR
Mohon saran dari para senior karena saya masih awam sekali dalam
investasi di saham,
Saya beberapa minggu ini mengamati pergerakan saham SMAR, dan ingin
masuk di saham tersebut,
kalau melihat transaksi yang terjadi, sering dalam satu hari hanya
beberapa kali transaksi tapi hampir selalu ada satu atau dua transaksi
yang volumenya cukup besar.
Apakah ini mengindikasikan sesuatu?
Apakah ini saat yang tepat untuk masuk atau kurang tepat?
Salam,
Christian Wijaya
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Sekilas Berita
PGAS ? :P
- Original Message
From: Indostars Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 5:28:41 PM
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Sekilas Berita
Yang turun apa dong?...
From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com] On Behalf Of Karno
Edy
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 5:18 PM
To:
obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Sekilas
Berita
= minyak naik, logam komoditi naik, indeks
juga ikut naik
Cheers always,
Karno
- Original Message -
From: Frederick
Schubert
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 5:38
PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Sekilas
Berita
the stories ARE AIMED AT SUPPORTING the theory that the main index could
go down from 17770-1790 levels.
rite..?
anyway, if chart denies itself, the reader must deny the faith
cheers
Rei highwaystar91@ yahoo.com
wrote:
War is inevitable? Oil prices shooting up? Hm...
Idx anteng2 aja ya... semoga berlanjut terus...
Rgds,
Rei
Sudeswanto
samsudesyang@ sinarmassekurita s.co.id wrote:
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS juga kena denda COPI?
You got it all wrong. Supply and Demand, Supply and Demand.
Supply is down, Demand keeps going up, what happens to the price of Oil??
Basic Microeconomics I.
- Original Message
From: Agus Partono [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 3:52:15 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS juga kena denda COPI?
Estimated oil reserves: 800 billions of barrels,
world consumption: 76 millions per day,
looks like planet Earth has have oil for about 10,000 days, i.e.
about 27 years. Assuming that consumption does not increase...( which
is impossible).
If consumption increases an average 5% a year, then we have oil for
about 15 years. Then count that to the 'life' of those mentioned oil
companies.
Sure PGAS is incomparable with those big sisters.
But in my area, the growth of gas pipe for home consumption is so
high, and the demand also high, coz much cheaper than LPG tanks
distributed by Pertamina ( used to be my wife bought 2 tanks for +/-
120 thousands, while same consumption from PGN cost only 50-60 thou).
And who the hell will hold PGAS stock for 20 yrs long?
PGAS is just a ticker in hundreds ( so many swingers today)
rgds, agus
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, James Arifin
james.arifin@ ... wrote:
Karena memiliki reserve dimana-mana bukan cuma di Indonesia, itu
yang
disebutkan sebagai reserve to replacement ratio. BP, Exxon, Shell
memiliki
reserve replacement ratio yang cukup tinggi sehingga bisnis mereka
akan
tetap ada kecuali oil reserve di seluruh dunia sudah habis.
Selain itu PGAS tidak dapat dicompare dengan mereka karena bisnis
bergerak
di downstream sehingga mammoth tersebut mempunyai bisnis di semua
bidang.
On 1/17/07, Agus Partono [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Setelah 20 th ke depan???
Jualan besi dan pipa bekas...
Apakah anda bisa pula bayangkan apa yg akan dilakukan oleh BP,
ExxonMobil, Chevron dlm 20 th ke depan??? Tapi kenapa skr orang2
masih
menghargai premium stocknya?
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups. com,
James Arifin
james.arifin@ wrote:
Khan saya memang bilang kontraknya 20 tahun, yang saya
masalahkan
setelah
itu karena prinsip harus going concern artinya PGAS sudah harus
mikir
mau
apa 20 tahun mendatang.
On 1/17/07, Halim Mintareja hmin918@ wrote:
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS juga kena denda COPI?
that's not a bad idea after all
- Original Message
From: Agus Partono [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 8:37:41 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS juga kena denda COPI?
Well, goin' to biodiesel maybe???
So, buy AALI, UNSP then.. hahaha...
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Mr. T lamiensapi@ ... wrote:
You got it all wrong. Supply and Demand, Supply and Demand.
Supply is down, Demand keeps going up, what happens to the price of
Oil??
Basic Microeconomics I.
- Original Message
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[obrolan-bandar] PGAS: Bozsss BUEEEESSSSAAAARRRRRR Ngamuk.... HEhehehehe
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS VALUATION
Salut saya sama Mbah. Berani beli di 7400 Saya sendiri masih nyangkut di atas, kemaren atut untuk average down. hehehe. Hebat2x - Original Message From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 1:32:38 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS VALUATION Index Shanghai thn 2004 turun, dan 2005 turun lagi... ANYTHING can happen in the market, but MOSTLY world market index naik dari tahun ke tahun... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, rivan man [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: Pak adi kiswoyo maaf Embah kalo saya boleh berikan pendapat saya,saya tidak berani merekomendasi tp ini aja,selama saya berkecimpung di pasarmodal kususnya saham dan terutama saham BUMN biasanya walau down begitu hebat tp tetap kembali saya yakin ini dan yang ke dua apakah pernah terjadi indeks setiap pergantian tahun yang baru pernahkah mengalami kemunduran dari tahun sebelumnya?? ? ini aja yang saya bisa berikan. ..thanks all and having gain met cuan ya...ok Embah and para senior good luck always happy :) God Bless U Rvn bobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: buy now! AzRuL wrote: PGAS released form Suspend.. - Original Message - *From:* adi kiswoyo mailto:adikiswoyo@ ... *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com *Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2007 1:47 AM *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS VALUATION embag, saya mau beli pags gmana apa udah boleh beli nanti begitu suspensi di buka ? sya sempat nyangkut 2 lot. 1 lot di 11750 1 lot di 11150. waktu itu ngak kepikiran di jual karena saya percaya seperti embah bahwa secara fundamental bagus. tapi gak sangka bandar tega benar nich hancurin saham sampai melorot kayak begini. jadi saran dari embah gmana nich sebelum dan sesudahnya saya ucapkan terima kasih. salam, adi kiswoyo pengagum, pengikut dan juga murid embah. */rivan man [EMAIL PROTECTED] ./* wrote: wah PGAS lg PGAS lg ...oh ya untuk para sesepuh dan para senior jg Embah Happy New Year ya...kalo pendapatku tentang PGAS...kalo menurutku saham yang paling badung atau bandel tp jg salah satu saham yang paling perkasa ini pendapatku.. .kenapa paling perkasa kalo dak salah sebelum ada tentang divestasi ini mm thn brp 2005 apa 2006 pernah ada yang mendowngrade pgas jg kalo dak salah dari lv 12rb apa 11rb ya rada lupa aku walau di downgrade pada saat itu tp PGAS ke lv 8rb an,tetap aja bisa menyentuh lv 13rb lg dan belum lama ini pgas dari 12rb apa 11700 aku rada lupa pernah jg di turunkan ke 10100-10200 tp tetap jg si PGAS bisa meyentuh lv 12rb lg sudah beberp kali PGAS mengalami gelombang spt ini sebelumnya tp tetap saja si PGAS bisa berjalan menyentuh lg2 12rb nah jadi tidak heran kalo PGAS spt skr ini ada gelombang yang dasyat dari 12rb malah sampe 7400 nth besok walaupun kemana si PGAS PGAS di datangi badai2 tetap PGAS yang bisa menahan gelombang atau badaijadi tidak heran dan tidak aneh tentang saham yang satu ini si PGAS...sm spt halnya Emas kalo mau jadi Emas harus di lebur dulu dengan bara atau api yang panas baru bisa menjadi Emas dan skr PGAS mengalami sakit atau badai dikrnkan yang saya lihat dari report2 broker2 yang ada tidak lain tentang FA nya dan saya percaya pasti ada treatment nya dan pemerintah tidak akan tinggal diam menurut saya,dikrnkan PGAS salah satu saham BUMN pemerintah dan lg indikasi keberhasilan pemerintah berada salah satunya di pasarmodal.ini hanya sekedar pendapat dari saya.Good Luck Having Gain. God Bless U Rvn */Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] /* wrote: Justru musti diguyur ampe mentok biar sepi dan serem... lihat aja.. begitu diangkat dikit ke 7750 volume langsung membeludak On 1/15/07, *Karno Edy* [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. mailto:karno. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saya berani bertaruh walaupun pasar diguyur sampe offernya mentok, yg beli jumlahnya sedikit sekali. - Original Message - *From:* jsx_consultant mailto:jsx-
Re: [obrolan-bandar] DIR Baru...
Kan 54% nya punya Pres sama Wapres... hehehehehe... (secara gak langsung,
loh...)
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Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] DIR Baru...
Wapresnya punya saham kali ... hehehehe
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[obrolan-bandar] PGAS.....
Heheh. Dulu pak Bozs jualan di 11350, kalo dibeli lagi sama Pak Bozss sekarang untung berapa ya?? Heheheheh.. to be let go195,000,000.00 PX11,350.00 total 2,213,250,000,000.00 to be let go195,000,000.00 PX10,000.00 total 1,950,000,000,000.00 Profit263,250,000,000.00 Bozs: I want it at 14,000 damnit Market: Sir, 15,000 is the maximum price for PGAS, we dont want 10% profit. We demand 50% at least. Bozs: Goddamnit I want 14,000!!! Market: No way, see it is going down and down. (Smurky smiles). (Whispering), Yo short another 50 million shares. . ... Bozs: 14,000 !!! Market: No sir, can't do. Market is at 11,000. Please be reasonable. (On the other line), keep selling!! Bozs: Okay, 5% premium. Market: Discount, sir. We can't take that many shares. Too much liquidity. Bozs: God damn it, have it your way, then... Geezs Market: We'll arange everything Sir, you won't have to worry bout anything. Some Guy: I'll buy it all at 12150 tops. Bozs: Yo sell it to this guy. Market: (Panicked) Sir, that's against the rules. He doesn't even have an brokerage account. We cannot allow such a thing. Bozs: What!!! Market: Please be reasonable. Just sell it to us. There is nothing to worry. Heh heh... Bozs: [EMAIL PROTECTED])*([EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@# Market: Sir? Bozs: Ah screw it, take it 11350. .. . ... Market: What the hell 9950???! Argr Bozs: MWahahauhauaHHAHAHAHAHAHAH Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Fwd: Your Transaction Order....udah hampir CLEAR
Ini standard answer pak. Saya juga pernah digituin, walaupun brokernya beda.
Biasanya kalau broker nyadar mereka salah, mereka yang bayar bedanya. Alasannya
ya ketuker ordernya.
- Original Message
From: budi_noryanto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 11:51:02 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Fwd: Your Transaction Orderudah hampir CLEAR
Saya sudah lihat semua data transaksi tanggal 8 Januari, memang
tidak ada transaksi SS di harga 285, ini yang aneh. Kenapa bu Ida
mengatakan order sell saya di harga 285 done ya ? Apakah ada
kemungkinan order saya tidak diteruskan ke BEJ ? walaupun ada email
konfirmasi order telah diterima.
Saya akan lihat hasil klarifikasi kasus ini besok.
Budi N
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, budi_noryanto
budi_noryanto@ ... wrote:
Terimakasih banyak atas tanggapannya hari ini, sore tadi saya
sudah
langsung telpon ke Ibu Ida (Sales Supra Securinvest) dan setelah
mereka cek dari data RTI ada kesalahan dari mereka, katanya order
saya sih done tapi ketukar sama nasabah lain yang namanya Budi
juga
(saya nggak tahu penjelasan mereka masuk akal nggak ya..?), dan
mereka hampir transfer uang penjualan ke orang itu, Bu Ida janji
mau
memperbaiki dengan transfer uang penjualan ke saya.
Saya akan tunggu besok untuk perbaikan dari kesalahan ini.
Sekali lagi terima kasih untuk teman2 milis atas tanggapannya.
Untuk Pak Wiro, boleh nggak dikirim sekali lagi data transaksi
SDRA
tanggal 8 karena data yang saya dapat dari milis terpotong
(truncated) karena saya pake mode Digest di milis ini
Budi N
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, meif mei9881@ wrote:
DeaR Pak Budi
Kalo dari potongan ini sih harusnya done. Pak Budi pasang di 285
jam 9.30an
nah itu jam 11 an 290 aja dimakan kok =))
Sebaiknya ditanyakan sekali lagi dengan membawa bukti yang ada,
dan dibicarakn dengan manager nya aja.
Seharusnya kalo ini kesalahan sistem, maka kerugian harus
ditanggung oleh PT SS. Saya pernah karena kesalahan MU, maka MU
yang
menanggungnya.
Tapi sebaiknya laen kali sempatkan cek ya pak, demi keamanan
sendiri =))
Trims
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] rounding number 1700
Dua kali kena efek Thailand, Dua kali dapet kesempatan Buy barang Lego...
Tapi duit ogud pada nyangkut semua rese..
- Original Message
From: Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2007 4:53:43 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] rounding number 1700
well...
the fall of the main index today was mostly due to misunderstanding about
what is happening in Thailand. The Thai government limits foreign ownership to
50% in telecommunication and (agricultural) companies that are vital and
related with its nation's security. Indonesia has so far applied this policy
and foreign funds have so far can abide by this without complaining.
.(hehe). so..?
based on charting, it remains within the so-called trend in trend...the pull
back may cause a rounding of 100 points of losses..so, any fall below 1760, can
still be termed as correction. but below 1,600 is a panic selling which is more
unlikely as based on the fund flow manegement, at that level of index, funds as
big as American CALPERs would have already lost 30% of its equity portfolio...
would they be just sitting and singing for the losses..? i don't think so...so,
tomorrow will be the judgement day...if the main index
manages to rebound...then. ..there is nothing to worry
hope the above helps...
best,
boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.sg wrote:
wie Sie sind, Sir?
die lange keine Zeit sehen.
any comment mr.schubert ?
is it time to collect ?
danke,
Frederick Schubert wrote: hehehehe...how about 900...?
Hotma Sirait hotmasirait@ yahoo.com wrote: next stop will be 1700 before
it's goes down deep as mr. ian say i quess (all disclaimer is on)
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] DptkahTransaksi di luar Bursa?
Bisa pak,
Misal kita beli X di broker A
Jualnya bisa pake broker B, C, D atau apa pun. Asal di matching pas settlement.
Prosesnya ribet, tapi doable. Sekali lagi tergantung Capital bapak. Kalo pemaen
besar
biasanya brokernya 4-5, sehingga keluar masuk gak bakalan keliatan.
- Original Message
From: Iki [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2007 4:59:44 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] DptkahTransaksi di luar Bursa?
Dear Pakar Saham,
Mohon pencerahan apakah suatu Broker jika akan menjual saham (misalnya sejumlah
saham X) harus melalui Bursa dan tidak bisa memindahkan saham ini ke Broker
lain utk menjualnya tanpa melalui Bursa?
Sehingga pd saat transaksi kita dapat tetap memantau di Bursa (aliran
keluar-masuk saham) bahwa di Broker tersebut tetap memegang sejumlah saham X
Terimakasih sebelumnya.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] rounding number 1700
Really dont rely much on F or D on the stock trade table. If you've been in this business for a while, you should know that F or D can be made up to order, being whatever the buyer or seller want. Foreign investor can mark their trade as Domestic as easily as domestic investor can mark it as Foreign. Nothing new really - Original Message From: Handoyo Gozali [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 8:23:12 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] rounding number 1700 any commend, Uncle Schubert ? Dana asing di bursa Asia diduga hengkang ke AS JAKARTA: Pemodal asing mengurangi dananya di bursa saham Asia Pasifik dan diduga mengalihkan portofolionya ke bursa AS dan Eropa. Akibatnya, dana asing yang parkir di sebagian bursa kawasan Asia berkurang drastis pada dua hari terakhir perdagangan. Sentimen negatif itu dipicu oleh lontaran rencana pembatasan modal di Thailand. Data Bloomberg menunjukkan dana asing yang parkir di Bursa Efek Jakarta Jakarta (BEJ) berkurang US$29 juta dalam sehari perdagangan kemarin, turun 53,9% dibandingkan periode sama tahun lalu. Kondisi serupa juga terjadi di bursa Korea Selatan, Thailand, dan Taiwan yang nilai investasi asingnya turun masing-masing US$247,5 juta (-386,2%), US$50 juta (-76,4%), dan US$36,3 juta (-104,4%). Analis PT Andalan Artha Advisindo Sekuritas (AAA Securities) Bagus Hananto menilai pemodal global kemungkinan masih menyimpan sentimen negatif terhadap pasar Asia setelah ada lontaran kebijakan pembatasan modal Thailand. Akibatnya, penjualan yang lebih besar dibandingkan pembelian (net selling) oleh pemodal asing menghantam bursa yang diikuti profit taking oleh investor domestik. Kemarin, investor asing membukukan net selling Rp262 miliar. Indeks harga saham gabungan (IHSG) di BEJ langsung terbanting 32,5 poin atau turun 1,79% ke posisi 1.780,88. Koreksi indeks karena profit taking kemarin masih sehat, mengingat indeks naik terlalu tinggi sejak Juni 2005 yang naik 48,7% dari 1.234 ke 1.843, tuturnya kemarin. Penurunan indeks, lanjut dia, dipicu oleh sentimen global terkait prospek perekonomian Amerika, yang diikuti investor domestik untuk membukukan gain. Profit taking kemarin menimpa Bursa Efek Jakarta dan bursa Hong Kong sehingga indeks harga saham keduanya menurun drastis di tengah peningkatan indeks saham bursa lainnya. Bagus memperkirakan pada perdagangan hari ini, investor akan melakukan pembelian pascakoreksi (buy on weakness) sehingga membuka potensi pembalikan arah indeks (rebound). Indeks akan bergerak di kisaran 1.770 hingga 1.815. Menurut dia, price to earning ratio (P/E) BEJ masih menjanjikan hingga akhir tahun nanti yang ditopang fundamental makroekonomi. Faktor P/E BEJ yang diperkirakan tinggi tak serta-merta membuat investor asing hengkang. Oleh Arif Gunawan S. Bisnis Indonesia - Original Message - From: Frederick Schubert To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] rounding number 1700 well... the fall of the main index today was mostly due to misunderstanding about what is happening in Thailand. The Thai government limits foreign ownership to 50% in telecommunication and (agricultural) companies that are vital and related with its nation's security. Indonesia has so far applied this policy and foreign funds have so far can abide by this without complaining. .(hehe). so..? based on charting, it remains within the so-called trend in trend...the pull back may cause a rounding of 100 points of losses..so, any fall below 1760, can still be termed as correction. but below 1,600 is a panic selling which is more unlikely as based on the fund flow manegement, at that level of index, funds as big as American CALPERs would have already lost 30% of its equity portfolio... would they be just sitting and singing for the losses..? i don't think so...so, tomorrow will be the judgement day...if the main index manages to rebound...then. ..there is nothing to worry hope the above helps... best, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.sg wrote: wie Sie sind, Sir? die lange keine Zeit sehen. any comment mr.schubert ? is it time to collect ? danke, Frederick Schubert wrote: hehehehe...how about 900...? Hotma Sirait hotmasirait@ yahoo.com wrote: next stop will be 1700 before it's goes down deep as mr. ian say i quess (all disclaimer is on) _ _ _ _ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA - Cheap
BUY more PTBA..
- Original Message
From: James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:21:54 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA - Cheap
kelihatannya bakal test 3100 kalau gagal hold di sana bisa berabe
... next support will be ... biar kalau naik ke target price bisa untung 100%
... hehehhehh ... semoga prediksi bung Ian nggak kesampaian
On 1/10/07, edy1276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:
PTBA lagi diskon..
How Low can you Go?
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, oentoeng_q oentoeng_q@
wrote:
Jawaban sang PEMBERANI lagi ditunggu nih
Supaya PTBA naik betulan...
Jangan beraninya nabrak CNKO, hehehe...
just kidding..
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[obrolan-bandar] UNSP
UBS increased UNSP target price to 1400. Rekomendasi BUY. Cheaper among peers, 40% upside Berita bisa diliat di bloomberg. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Ada apa dengan BTEK ????
Kata siapa? Salah broker kali..
- Original Message
From: Hotma Sirait [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2007 3:53:51 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Ada apa dengan BTEK
unfortunately di indonesia ini (BEJ) tidak nisa nge-short saham (jual dulu,
baru beli). jadi hilanglah kesempatan nge-short hari ini sebab pagi2 semua
bursa regional sudah kelihatan merah (best opportunity to short). disclaimer ya.
regards,
hotma sirait
nb. mohon petinggi2 BEJ buatlah peraturan untuk nge-short saham di BEJ (adopt
saja peraturan di LN kenapa tidak bisa sih ?)
- Original Message
From: Hotma Sirait hotmasirait@ yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2007 12:40:29 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Ada apa dengan BTEK
coba lihat chart-nya mas di yahoo finance. kelihatannya bakal turun lagi ke
harga 2. btek ini range naik turunnya sekali-sekali saja dalam 1 tahun akan
tetapi naik turunnya tajam dan hanya beberapa hari atau paling lama 2 minggu.
jadi yang masih tertahan di harga tinggi BTEK saya sarankan cut-loss atau
tunggu siklus tahunannya (sekali lagi coba perhatikan chart grafiknya di yahoo
finance).
regards,
hotma sirait
- Original Message
From: bejo joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2007 8:24:24 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Ada apa dengan BTEK
buat mbah-mbah di sini, numpang tanya donk..
ada apa yah dengan BTEK, makin hari turun, rugi gede nih.. hiks..
apa gak bisa naek lagi ?
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Ada apa dengan BTEK ????
Sebenernya sih bisa. Tapi Volume dan VALUE harus besar, itu juga broker2x suka
agak rese
kalo mau diinepin, karena mereka harus minjem barang ke KPEI. Otomatis yang
bisa buntut-
buntutnya yah institusi, atau yang teman baik broker
- Original Message
From: StockTraders [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2007 7:16:38 PM
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Ada apa dengan BTEK
sistem komputernya belum canggih atau memang tidak ada
insentif untuk melakukan hal itu karena senjatanya investor retail jadi 2,
sekarang
retail bambu runcing, pemodal besar senapan
otomatis
From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com] On Behalf Of Hotma
Sirait
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 3:54 PM
To:
obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Ada apa
dengan BTEK
unfortunately
di indonesia ini (BEJ) tidak nisa nge-short saham (jual dulu, baru beli). jadi
hilanglah kesempatan nge-short hari ini sebab pagi2 semua bursa regional sudah
kelihatan merah (best opportunity to short). disclaimer ya.
regards,
hotma
sirait
nb.
mohon petinggi2 BEJ buatlah peraturan untuk nge-short saham di BEJ (adopt saja
peraturan di LN kenapa tidak bisa sih ?)
-
Original Message
From: Hotma Sirait
hotmasirait@ yahoo.com
To:
obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2007
12:40:29 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Ada apa dengan BTEK
coba
lihat chart-nya mas di yahoo finance. kelihatannya bakal turun lagi ke harga 2.
btek ini range naik turunnya sekali-sekali saja dalam 1 tahun akan tetapi naik
turunnya tajam dan hanya beberapa hari atau paling lama 2 minggu. jadi yang
masih tertahan di harga tinggi BTEK saya sarankan cut-loss atau tunggu siklus
tahunannya (sekali lagi coba perhatikan chart grafiknya di yahoo finance).
regards,
hotma
sirait
-
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From: bejo joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
To:
obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2007
8:24:24 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Ada apa dengan BTEK
buat mbah-mbah di sini, numpang tanya donk..
ada apa yah dengan BTEK, makin hari turun, rugi gede nih.. hiks..
apa gak bisa naek lagi ?
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] LSIP koq bantet ya?
LSIP kan udah naek berkali2x lipat dari taun lalu. P/E nya sudah tinggi,
sehingga harga sudah agak susah naek lagi. Sebenarnya
kalau mau Value Investing, masuk ke UNSP, karena UNSP sangat undervalued
dibanding dengan yang laen.
- Original Message
From: tanujakaria [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2007 3:55:10 AM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] LSIP koq bantet ya?
Pak,Ibu,
memperhatikan LSIP koq malah kaya adonan bantet, katanya mau ke bulan?
Ada opini kenapa? Apa krn harga minyak bumi turun drastik jadi soal
biodiesel udah mulai dingin ga menarik lagi?
Liat AALI kan mercurial banget tuh naeknya.
Dibanding UNSP (duh tapi ini bakrie) gimana any opinion?
Tempo hari euphoria tipikal dikita sampe ke PINDAD aja ikutan bikin
mesin olah biodiesel. Ini penyakit di kita, latahisme kale ya boss.
tanu
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] TARGET TINS 24000???
Kalo Bandar CNKO? heheheh...
- Original Message
From: Sudeswanto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2007 9:31:13 AM
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] TARGET TINS 24000???
yang
jelas...untuk saat ini...
bandar TINS patut diberi predikat lulus dengan
predikat SUMMA CUM LAUDE
bandar PTBA patut diberi predikat tidak lulus dengan
nilai E- (E minus)
^^ hehehe ^^ canda ^^
-Original Message-
From: Knight
[mailto:knight. [EMAIL PROTECTED] com]
Sent: 03 Januari 2007
12:11
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re:
[obrolan-bandar] TARGET TINS 24000???
jadi TINS tunggu ke 5000?
maap boss, gw gak ngarti yg begitu2an .. tau
nya cuan ajaa ..beli di berapa enaknya?
On 1/3/07, EKA
SUWANDANA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:
Cadangan TIN di BANGKA 7 tahun utk tambang permukaan (selanjutnya deep
mining, cost naik berlipat2 ), yg di Belitung diatas 10 tahun.
Jadi bedanya beli TINS dgn beli ANTM/INCO (deposit diatas 30
tahun, utk surface mining), Beli TINS seperti beli APARTEMEN 'HAK
SEWA' 7 tahun (banyak kan developer jualan apartemen 'hak sewa 30
tahun!) , anda beli masih bisa dikontrakan dan cuan, tapi beli
INCO/ANTM seperti beli rumah mahal mewah bisa dikontrakan 30 tahun dan
diwariskan ke anak (utk saham tambang deposit 30 tahun depresiasi masih
kecil).
Sayang sekali pak kalo INCO anda dijual diharga 3, dgn hitungan
sederhana seperti yg anda lakukan INCO EPS ada dikisaran 5 USD/lembar. INCO
output produksi tahun 2007 berkurang 7 % dari 72000ton.
ANTM juga sama, proyek TAYAN di tahun 2008-2009 belum pada dihitung
bandar, sedangkan proyek PLTU BANJARSARI/ BANKO yg 2011-2012 sudah dihitung
bandar PTBA, dgn semua risetnya bandar bilang bakal Rp5000.
Belilah saham sebelum bandar menghitung proyek baru!
bello lee yung_stocks@ yahoo.co.id
wrote:
Hari ini
tgl 2 Jan 2007, TINS naik Rp 1200, menjadi Rp
5625,-/saham. Harga timah di LME $11895,-/ton. TINS
masih murah, target Rp 24000,-/ saham.
Saya
membuat riset sederhana PT. Timah Tbk untuk tahun
2007.
Berdasarkan harga timah yang terus melambung, harga
on the spot USD 11320/ tgl 21 dec 06.(menurut para ahli, harga Timah akan
mencapai USD13000 -USD15000 ).Estimasi produksi th 2007 =45000 ton. Harga
TINS Rp 3800,/saham/ tgl 21 Dec 06
Dengan
harga timah USD 13000
(averageUSD
11000 )
Maka PT
Timah akan menerima berkah sebesar
45000 ton
x ( USD 11000 - USD 8250 ) x Rp 9000 (kurs USD)=Rp
1113,75 milyar.
Padahal
dengan harga USD 8250 PT Timah sudah
membukukan laba bersih untuk 3Q'06 sebesar Rp 61
milyar.
Jadi
menurut perkiraan saya untuk tahun 2007 PT Timah akan
membukukan laba bersih mencapai lebih dari Rp 1200 milyar
(Rp
1113.75 m + Rp 61 m (3Q'06) + 4Q'06 + pembelian yang lebih murah dari TI
).
EPS PT
timah lebih dari Rp 2385 (total saham 503 juta
lembar).
Dengan
membandingkan P/E pertambangan di BEJ yang diatas 10X , maka harga
Wajar
saham PT Timah Rp 24000,-
Ingat
harga semua logam naik tajam, hanya timah yang baru naik,yang disebabkan
Banyaknya
timah yang diselundupkan.
Dengan
harga timah hari ini mencapai USD 11320 (LME ), maka PT Timah akan sehat
Kembali.
Semua
saham INCO dan ANTM saya jual untuk
di tukar dengan TINS yang upsidenya besar sekali. INCO beli Rp 13000 jual
Rp3, ANTM beli Rp 2600 jual Rp
8050,-.
Cadangan
timah di Bangka Belitung tidak
akan habis 20 tahun, jadi jangan kuatir.
Beli
sekarang, jual akhir tahun 2007 di Rp 24000,- untuk yang trader beli
makin
lama makin mahal , hasil tidak maksimal,atau kehilangan
barang.
Happy New
Year !
God Bless
You !
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] MEDC
UNSP, sepertinya ada keramaian disana...
- Original Message
From: Andri wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2007 11:58:11 AM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] MEDC
watch : MEDC, bid offer tipis2 gampang ditarik
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INCO, still a buy?
I think the main problem with base metals is that Traders have been sitting on very large gains since last year, upwards to 150% profits, especially in Nickel. Also supply has been very slowly increasing, with the rise of new and reopened mines. Invest carefully in metals producers stocks, profit taking could easily wipe out a large profit - Original Message From: Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2007 10:51:34 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INCO, still a buy? Saya agak bingung, dari berita di bawah dikatakan bahwa harga nickel bisa anjlok tapi dari beberapa post lain di milis ini bilang bahwa output nickel berkurang yg menyebabkan harga naik pesat. Bisa ada yg jelaskan ke saya? Maklum, agak tulalit...thanks! Salam, Agung Sugiharto [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: Sharing info: status jumat terakhir (malam waktu north america): Nickel price sudah pada level 34.4 usd/mt. naik berat ini dari yg sebelumnya karena stock nickel di LME sangat kurang. tentu ada akibat dari kurangnnya produksi Inco juga! nah ..tunggu hari Senin investor dari luar akan berebut sahamnya Inco! jangan sampai ketinggalan. . kalau mau pegang sebentar mah gampang nyampe 32 ribu.. analisa investor itu harga Inco di level sekitar 40 ribu! ini hitungan konservative. . Zinc/Timah juga akan tambah bagus harganya, jadi TINS kemungkinan akan naik lagi.. cooper alluminium?? bisa dibaca di bawah ini.. salam, aGoeng Nickel could be hit by index reweighting next week Bianca Markram 5 January 2007 Metal Bulletin News Alert Service Base metals, in particular nickel, could fall even harder next week at the London Metal Exchange as index funds sell off large portions of their long metals positions as they adjust their funds' exposure for 2007, traders said. The meteoric rise in prices last year means that the Dow Jones AIG and Goldman Sachs Commodities indices must sell significant positions to ensure that their funds' investment in metals - the number of contracts held - is the same as a percentage of the funds' total value as at the start of last year, traders said. Nickel and zinc are expected to be the hardest hit because they have risen the most since the start of last year: the three-month prices on January 3 were 135 percent and 107 percent higher respectively than January 3 2006. This could mean that as much as 20,000-25,000 tonnes of nickel and 150,000 tonnes of zinc will be sold by AIG and Goldman Sachs in the coming week, traders said. The sale of nickel eqates to 800 lots of nickel per day over a five-day period, one trader noted. Base metals have grown more in 2006 than energy, so it is widely thought that both AIG Dow Jones and Goldman Sachs will be net sellers of base metals in the coming weeks, said Jim Lennon, analyst at Macquarie Bank. The adjustment by the indices goes some way to explaining the terrible start to new year trading, which saw copper trade at nine-month lows on three consecutive days, traders said. With copper showing some signs of recovery on Friday, some traders said the indices had probably carried out the adjustment, but others speculated that the worst could be to come. Everyone's shell-shocked. It's like what the hell was that. Was that it or is there more to come? asked a senior official at an LME ring dealer. The selling we've seen in base metals this week could have been prompted by the news of the indices' prospective rebalancing, said a second London trader. People saw the news and said: 'We have to get out before all of that metal gets dumped on the market next week.' It is also possible that the indices have already started rebalancing their positions, and that this is what's behind the drops we've seen this week. But if all of this metal still has to come to the market, we're in for a serious nose-dive in base metals prices, he warned. Traders pointed to nickel which has stood out because it has shown no signs of coming under pressure - on Friday, the three-month price rose as high as $34,400 per tonne from $32,475 on Tuesday when trading resumed after the new year bank holiday. That [nickel tonnage] should be huge and could see nickel plunging to the low $20,000-range, said a third London trader. And yet nickel has been continuing to trade in the high $32,000 to the low $33,000 range. The AIG and Goldman Sachs indices both list nickel, zinc, copper and aluminium and Goldman Sachs also has lead. Neither company would comment on the situation - Original Message From: EKA SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, January 5, 2007 4:24:29 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INCO, still a buy? Sebenernya di laporan keuangan q3 2006 sudah kelihatan dari JUNI-SEPTEMBER 2006 laba bersih
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Harga TIN di LME
2500
- Original Message
From: Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2007 9:29:57 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Harga TIN di LME
Pa' boss
Jika harga TIN di LME = 10.800 USD/MT, berapa kah SEHARUSNYA harga saham TINS
yang wajar di BEJ?
salam
On 1/4/07, EKA SUWANDANA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:
Kalo saya lihat harga TIN di LME sekarang 10800USD/MT SEHARUSNYA masih bisa
naik fundamentally. TIN fundamentally tertekan 4 tahun gara2 tambang liar.
'Dibereskan' SBY karena di World Mining Forum di ledek oleh perush2 mining lain
kok harga TIN memble!
Dgn margin kotor sangat tipis tahun lalu dan masih surface mining potential
upsidenya masih besar. Beda dgn Emas, Coal, Nickel semuanya sudah ada yg deep
underground mining. Seperti di Australia saya lihat di Discovery Channel
penambang bisa hidup 6 jam/hari 400meter di bawah tanah, sampai mau BAB saja
tinjanya dikirim pake rel ke atas. Butuh koran, makanan dikirim pake pipa
kebawah, suhu di bawah bisa 40 derajat Celcius!
EKA SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:
Lihat dari Financial Report Q3 2006, harga rata2 TIN utk PT TIMAH dari
Januari s/d September ada di $8343/MT, COGS nya ada di $8012/MT (karena rupiah
dan BBM Industri naik COGS naik dari 7600 USD/MT tahun lalu). Sementara harga
dari JUNI-SEPTEMBER TIN ada di $8699/MT, sedangkan COGSnya ada di $8257/MT.
So rata2 laba kotor JAN-SEP 2006 per /MT , USD331/MT utk JUN-SEPT USD442/MT,
di q1 malah sempat USD200-an/MT, tahun lalu rata2 2005 margin 504USD/MT sempat
cuma 100USD/MT dari JUNI-SEPT 2005.
Kalo asumsi sekarang 10800 USD/MT dgn COGS 8200 USD/MT, margin usaha 2600
USD/MT.
So laba kotor tahun 2007 bisa naik 4-8 kali.
Yg perlu dicatat :
1. Penguatan rupiah
2. Cadangan Bangka 7 tahun.aset susut separuh dalam 7 tahun, NPV-nya?
Hmmm ! Gimana nih!
EKA SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
wrote:
Harga 6000-7000 sudah wajar! Itu PER=10x.
Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
wrote: jadi TINS tunggu ke 5000?
maap boss, gw gak ngarti yg begitu2an .. tau nya cuan ajaa ..beli di berapa
enaknya?
On 1/3/07, EKA SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:
Cadangan TIN di BANGKA 7 tahun utk tambang permukaan (selanjutnya deep
mining, cost naik berlipat2 ), yg di Belitung diatas 10 tahun.
Jadi bedanya beli TINS dgn beli ANTM/INCO (deposit diatas 30 tahun, utk
surface mining), Beli TINS seperti beli APARTEMEN 'HAK SEWA' 7 tahun (banyak
kan developer jualan apartemen 'hak sewa 30 tahun!) , anda beli masih bisa
dikontrakan dan cuan, tapi beli INCO/ANTM seperti beli rumah mahal mewah bisa
dikontrakan 30 tahun dan diwariskan ke anak (utk saham tambang deposit 30 tahun
depresiasi masih kecil).
Sayang sekali pak kalo INCO anda dijual
diharga 3, dgn hitungan sederhana seperti yg anda lakukan INCO EPS ada
dikisaran 5 USD/lembar. INCO output produksi tahun 2007 berkurang 7 % dari
72000ton.
ANTM juga sama, proyek TAYAN di tahun 2008-2009 belum pada dihitung bandar,
sedangkan proyek PLTU BANJARSARI/ BANKO yg 2011-2012 sudah dihitung bandar
PTBA, dgn semua risetnya bandar bilang bakal Rp5000.
Belilah saham sebelum bandar menghitung proyek baru!
bello lee yung_stocks@
yahoo.co.id wrote:
Hari ini tgl 2 Jan 2007, TINS naik Rp 1200, menjadi
Rp 5625,-/saham. Harga timah di LME $11895,-/ton. TINS masih murah, target
Rp 24000,-/
saham.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] BTEK n BTEK-W
Hmm.. liat coba di RTI
BTEK-W
Excercise Price = 125
Maturity Date = 5/13/2007
Means: you can buy this stock at Rp. 125 at 5/13/2007. Deep out-of-the money
option.
Highly unpropable to be excercised. Not even counting dillution. Masih ada
harganya aja
udah bagus
- Original Message
From: Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2007 4:12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BTEK n BTEK-W
he he he he pertanyaan yg sama ...
truss kenapa BTEK-W gak dimainin sementara BTEK udah naik dari 51 ke 67
gilaa 48.88 % tuhh
On 1/2/07, azis_rialto
azis_rialto@ yahoo.co. id wrote:
Kenapa sich sekarang yang lagi berkibar saham-saham aneh2 ? Trus
BTEK
n BTEK-W masih on fire ga ya ?
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA
Secara FA Gossip, Electricity Deal Signing is imminent.
collect.
- Original Message
From: James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2007 10:37:36 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA
anda trading mau pakai teknik apa? Kalau new high seperti BS maka tunggu di
4050 baru masuk tapi kalau trading pakai metoda indikator yah silakan dilihat
saja apakah dari sisi indikator masuk kriteria atau tidak.
Regards
On 1/3/07, oBet [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:
10:21:55 ptba 3675 dengan volume yang lumayan..
apakah artinya ptba sudah tidak tertahan lagi?
- Original Message
From: Oskar Syahbana oskar.syahbana@
gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2007 11:18:45 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA
PTBA masih ketahan.. tunggu bulan-bulan ini saja. Tapi coba tanya lagi ke Pak
Untung :D
On 12/31/06, Widhie !!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
wrote:
Secara teknikal PTBA ada di major support, bisa diamati
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