Re: [ob] INCO: Technicals

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik boyz®
Hehehe. Ampoen mBah, bukan ngetest.  ntar ane kuwalat dah.
Di metastock skrg ane ga punya data intraday.
Makanya ane minta tolong sama mBah. Maap kalo ngerepotin. :)
Ane do'ain deh agar bu Fify tetep ngebet sama mBah. kekekek

Dikit lagi ane kirim BW daily chart-nya AALI, LSIP  SGRO, mbah,

Salam,


2009/10/13 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id

 Pak Boyz lagi ngetest embah nih, masa orang baru pake
 BW beberapa hari udah diminta advisnya ama ahlinya...

 Mudah mudahan lolos ... eh lulus... hehehe...

 http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwaali.png

 - Momentum Is Up but it is Decelerating.
 - The SubWave is up dan mulai trending karena Price mulai
  bermain diatas buaya

 Ngomongnya buaya terus nih, nanti lama lama Fifi engga mau
 lagi ama embah... hehehe...



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  Mbah,
  Minta tolong lihatin intraday teknikal-nya CPO Stocks : AALI, LSIP  SGRO
  dong.
  Kalau di profitunity daily chart sih OK semua mBah. Diatas Alligator dan
 AO
  momentumnya ijo.
  Makasih sebelumnya.
 
  Salam,
 
 
  2009/10/13 highwaysta...@...
 
  
  
   Mbah, dgn keadaan market yg begini lesu apakah petunjuk TA msh
 berfungsi
   100% krn sdh terbukti byk saham yg gagal walau TA sdh menunjukkan akan
   bergerak  vol mendukung?
   Cmiiw...yah, memang yg penting usaha sih hehehe
  
   Sent from my computer of course!
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   *From: * jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@...
   *Date: *Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:50:38 -
   *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
   *Subject: *[ob] INCO: Technicals
  
  
  
   INCO: Technicals
  
   - Wave terpilin dengan garis merah artinya INCO sudah siap utk
   suatu gerakan yg cukup besar
   - Momentun and it's Acceleration is increasing (green)
   - Resist: Green Circle
   - Suport: Red Circle
  
   http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwinco.png
  
  
  
  
 




 

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[ob] LSIP : BW's Comment

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik boyz®
*LSIP (LSIP)
Tuesday, October 13, 2009

*By Bill Williams, Ph.D. C.T.A.
Profitunity Trading Group
(409) 945-8880 - p...@phoenix.net*

   Alligator:  Price is ABOVE the alligator
   Zone:  Grey Zone
   Awesome Oscillator (AO):  Increasing
   Accelerator (AC):  Decreasing

Open:  7,850.00
High:  8,050.00
Low:   7,850.00
Close: 7,950.00
Alligator Jaw: 7,489.42
Alligator Teeth:   7,554.90
Alligator Lips:7,709.09

Close is above the Alligator which means we are only interested in a long
position.
The AO is Increasing (Green AO bar) which means that the momentum is upward.
The AC is Decreasing (Red AC bar) which means that the upward momentum is
slowing.  Since the AO is Green and the AC is Red, the Price Bar should be
Gray or Black. **(note: di chart ane rubah warnanya jadi biru)**
This is an area to be cautious about placing a long entry, and if you are
already long it might be time to tighten your stop.
*
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[ob] AALI: BW's comment

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik boyz®
*AALI (AALI)
Tuesday, October 13, 2009

*By Bill Williams, Ph.D. C.T.A.
Profitunity Trading Group
(409) 945-8880 - p...@phoenix.net*

   Alligator:  Price is ABOVE the alligator
   Zone:  Green Zone
   Awesome Oscillator (AO):  Increasing
   Accelerator (AC):  Increasing

Open:  21,350.00
High:  22,000.00
Low:   21,350.00
Close: 21,850.00
Alligator Jaw: 20,874.99
Alligator Teeth:   20,917.45
Alligator Lips:21,034.01

Close is above the Alligator which means we are only interested in a long
position.
The AO is Increasing (Green AO bar) which means that the momentum is up.
The AC is Increasing (Green AC bar) which means that the upward momentum is
accelerating.  With both the AO and the AC increasing the Price Bar should
also be Green.
If not already long this is a good place to look for a Fractal or other
signal to buy.
*
attachment: AALI-20091013.gif

[ob] SGRO : BW's Comment

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik boyz®
*SGRO (SGRO)
Tuesday, October 13, 2009

*By Bill Williams, Ph.D. C.T.A.
Profitunity Trading Group
(409) 945-8880 - p...@phoenix.net*

   Alligator:  Price is ABOVE the alligator
   Zone:  Green Zone
   Awesome Oscillator (AO):  Increasing
   Accelerator (AC):  Increasing

Open:  2,100.00
High:  2,175.00
Low:   2,100.00
Close: 2,125.00
Alligator Jaw: 2,017.05
Alligator Teeth:   2,044.69
Alligator Lips:2,060.22

Close is above the Alligator which means we are only interested in a long
position.
The AO is Increasing (Green AO bar) which means that the momentum is up.
The AC is Increasing (Green AC bar) which means that the upward momentum is
accelerating.  With both the AO and the AC increasing the Price Bar should
also be Green.
If not already long this is a good place to look for a Fractal or other
signal to buy.
*
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Re: BUMI - RE: [ob] IHSG: The Last Subwave 5 ?

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik boyz®
Setuju banget bro... beda bgt antara Gambling dgn Spec Buy.

Bro... kalo ada indikasi OIL tembus MA200 weekly di 75an or breaking
long-term bearish-nya, feeling ane besok BUMI joged2, bro...
DJUSCL juga lagi atret mo break high lagi tuh kayaknya.
and denger2 besok katanya ada inflow mau masuk BUMI. *mudah2an ga salah
denger, hehehe...*

Salam,


2009/10/13 JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com

 Hehe, ente bisa aje..., kagak lah, emang ane gak tau besok bijimane.., yg
 kite tau pasti adalah harga berada di support kuat, dan resiko sdh
 terukur..., tapi apakah besok naik atau turun kite blom tau, paling kite
 cuma bisa siapin antisipasi aja, kalo turun gimana, kalau naik gimana..

 Apakah ini gambling?? No ini spec buy, ada perbedaan yg mendasar antara
 keduannya. Hehe...

 JT

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Re: [ob] AALI: BW's comment

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik boyz®
Artinya ya kira2 gitu deh...  Secara CPO juga terlihat mo rebound.
Volume udah agak naik. MACD keren banget tuh bikin manuver di tembok
centerline sekalian Golden Cross. Parabolic SAR udah OK. ADX mulai trending.


Kalo secara Teknikal sih OK banget. cmiiw.

Salam,

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:25 PM, elvira raven elvirara...@yahoo.com wrote:



  Artinya apa boyz ?BUY ya ?
 aali breakout sideways pattern.. mencoba menguji resist 22300..
 mid term target 24000 ?

 --- On *Tue, 10/13/09, boyz® m457...@gmail.com* wrote:


 From: boyz® m457...@gmail.com
 Subject: [ob] AALI: BW's comment
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 7:03 AM




 *AALI (AALI)
 Tuesday, October 13, 2009

 *By Bill Williams, Ph.D. C.T.A.
 Profitunity Trading Group
 (409) 945-8880 - p...@phoenix. net http://mc/compose?to=...@phoenix.net*

Alligator:  Price is ABOVE the alligator
Zone:  Green Zone
Awesome Oscillator (AO):  Increasing
Accelerator (AC):  Increasing

 Open:  21,350.00
 High:  22,000.00
 Low:   21,350.00
 Close: 21,850.00
 Alligator Jaw: 20,874.99
 Alligator Teeth:   20,917.45
 Alligator Lips:21,034.01

 Close is above the Alligator which means we are only interested in a long
 position.
 The AO is Increasing (Green AO bar) which means that the momentum is up.
 The AC is Increasing (Green AC bar) which means that the upward momentum
 is accelerating.  With both the AO and the AC increasing the Price Bar
 should also be Green.
 If not already long this is a good place to look for a Fractal or other
 signal to buy.
 *




 


Re: Bls: BUMI - RE: [ob] IHSG: The Last Subwave 5 ?

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik boyz®
Ane blom jadi bapak buah, bro. Ga punya anak buah.
Itu duit-nya Jendral Arto mengkali, atau jangan2 duit-nya Elaine. hehehe...
Kita lihat aja besok deh. Namanya kabar burung, bisa bener, bisa ngga.

Salam,



2009/10/13 AB asepbuh...@yahoo.com



 masa salh denger sihpan yang bawa duit buat beli bumi itu anak buah
 ente dr singapore..

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 *Judul:* Re: BUMI - RE: [ob] IHSG: The Last Subwave 5 ?



 Setuju banget bro... beda bgt antara Gambling dgn Spec Buy.

 Bro... kalo ada indikasi OIL tembus MA200 weekly di 75an or breaking
 long-term bearish-nya, feeling ane besok BUMI joged2, bro...
 DJUSCL juga lagi atret mo break high lagi tuh kayaknya.
 and denger2 besok katanya ada inflow mau masuk BUMI. *mudah2an ga salah
 denger, hehehe...*

 Salam,


 2009/10/13 JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo. com jsxtra...@yahoo.com

 Hehe, ente bisa aje..., kagak lah, emang ane gak tau besok bijimane.., yg
 kite tau pasti adalah harga berada di support kuat, dan resiko sdh
 terukur..., tapi apakah besok naik atau turun kite blom tau, paling kite
 cuma bisa siapin antisipasi aja, kalo turun gimana, kalau naik gimana..

 Apakah ini gambling?? No ini spec buy, ada perbedaan yg mendasar antara
 keduannya... .. Hehe...

 JT

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Re: BUMI - RE: [ob] IHSG: The Last Subwave 5 ?

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik boyz®
Nah tuh kannn... Duitnya Jend. Arto sama yayang Elaine...
:P


2009/10/13 It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com



 *If you have difficulties jacking up BUMI, I'll help you tomolo. [?]. Just
 a friendly offer. I have a plan on all B7.* *Are you ok with this?*

 2009/10/13 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id




 masa masih salah denger sih bro..!


 regards,
 A
 BUMI ontheway..!

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 Dari: boyz® m457...@gmail.com
 Judul: Re: BUMI - RE: [ob] IHSG: The Last Subwave 5 ?
 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Tanggal: Selasa, 13 Oktober, 2009, 9:24 PM



 Setuju banget bro... beda bgt antara Gambling dgn Spec Buy.

 Bro... kalo ada indikasi OIL tembus MA200 weekly di 75an or breaking
 long-term bearish-nya, feeling ane besok BUMI joged2, bro...
 DJUSCL juga lagi atret mo break high lagi tuh kayaknya.
 and denger2 besok katanya ada inflow mau masuk BUMI. *mudah2an ga salah
 denger, hehehe...*

 Salam,


 2009/10/13 JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=jsxtra...@yahoo.com
 

 Hehe, ente bisa aje..., kagak lah, emang ane gak tau besok bijimane.., yg
 kite tau pasti adalah harga berada di support kuat, dan resiko sdh
 terukur..., tapi apakah besok naik atau turun kite blom tau, paling kite
 cuma bisa siapin antisipasi aja, kalo turun gimana, kalau naik gimana..

 Apakah ini gambling?? No ini spec buy, ada perbedaan yg mendasar antara
 keduannya. Hehe...

 JT

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Re: [ob] INCO: Technicals

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik boyz®
mBah si enak, udah kabur duluan.
Ane yg kena jewer dah.

hehe..


2009/10/13 fifi young fifiyoun...@gmail.com





 2009/10/13 boyz® m457...@gmail.com



 Hehehe. Ampoen mBah, bukan ngetest.  ntar ane kuwalat dah.
 Di metastock skrg ane ga punya data intraday.
 Makanya ane minta tolong sama mBah. Maap kalo ngerepotin. :)
 Ane do'ain deh agar bu Fify tetep ngebet sama mBah. kekekek



  heh...? mbah ma boyz nakal ya... mesti dijewer 2-2-nya... yayyy...[?][?][?]
  hehe..






 Dikit lagi ane kirim BW daily chart-nya AALI, LSIP  SGRO, mbah,

 Salam,


 2009/10/13 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id

 Pak Boyz lagi ngetest embah nih, masa orang baru pake
 BW beberapa hari udah diminta advisnya ama ahlinya...

 Mudah mudahan lolos ... eh lulus... hehehe...

 http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwaali.png

 - Momentum Is Up but it is Decelerating.
 - The SubWave is up dan mulai trending karena Price mulai
  bermain diatas buaya

 Ngomongnya buaya terus nih, nanti lama lama Fifi engga mau
 lagi ama embah... hehehe...



 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz® m457...@... wrote:
 
  Mbah,
  Minta tolong lihatin intraday teknikal-nya CPO Stocks : AALI, LSIP 
 SGRO
  dong.
  Kalau di profitunity daily chart sih OK semua mBah. Diatas Alligator
 dan AO
  momentumnya ijo.
  Makasih sebelumnya.
 
  Salam,
 
 
  2009/10/13 highwaysta...@...
 
  
  
   Mbah, dgn keadaan market yg begini lesu apakah petunjuk TA msh
 berfungsi
   100% krn sdh terbukti byk saham yg gagal walau TA sdh menunjukkan
 akan
   bergerak  vol mendukung?
   Cmiiw...yah, memang yg penting usaha sih hehehe
  
   Sent from my computer of course!
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   *Date: *Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:50:38 -
   *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
   *Subject: *[ob] INCO: Technicals
  
  
  
   INCO: Technicals
  
   - Wave terpilin dengan garis merah artinya INCO sudah siap utk
   suatu gerakan yg cukup besar
   - Momentun and it's Acceleration is increasing (green)
   - Resist: Green Circle
   - Suport: Red Circle
  
   http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwinco.png
  
  
  
  
 




 

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[ob] Oil prices near a new high for the year

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik boyz®
Crude prices close in on $75 per barrel because of the weakening US dollar

* On 11:12 am EDT, Tuesday October 13, 2009

NEW YORK (AP) -- Oil prices neared new highs for the year Tuesday as the
dollar slipped against other major currencies, demonstrating how much the
weakened U.S. currency can affect consumers globally.

The U.S. dollar index, where the U.S. currency is measured against other
major currencies, hit a 14-month low Tuesday. Because crude is bought and
sold in dollars, it essentially becomes cheaper for international investors
who have flooded into energy markets despite a big surplus of oil.

Energy experts expect the government will report Wednesday that crude
supplies are still growing, but that does not appear to be a deterrent for
many investors because the dollar is so weak.

Benchmark crude for November delivery gained 62 cents to $73.89 on the New
York Mercantile Exchange. At one point, prices reached $74.47, just short of
the yearly high of $75 reached on Aug. 25, when the driving season was still
in full swing.

Prices have now risen for four straight days and a barrel cost 4 percent
more than it did one week ago.

Natural gas, which is not sold only in dollars, tumbled 25.7 cents to $4.623
per 1,000 cubic feet on Nymex.

Crude has traded between $65 and $75 for months as traders look for signs of
an economic recovery.

On Tuesday, OPEC said China and other developing countries would push global
oil demand up slightly next year, but said any recovery would be slow and
weak.

The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries supplies over 35 percent
of the world's crude.

Given the recent improvement in the economic performance of OECD and China,
oil demand is expected to be better than earlier forecast, OPEC said,
referring to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, a
rich nations club.

In other Nymex trading, heating oil rose 2 cents to $1.9149 a gallon, and
gasoline for November delivery gained 2.2 cents to $1.821 a gallon.

In London, Brent crude rose 51 cents to $71.87 on the ICE Futures exchange.

Associated Press Writers Alex Kennedy in Singapore, Pablo Gorondi in
Budapest, Hungary, and Tarek El-Tablawy in Cairo contributed to this report.


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Re: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik boyz®
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:01 AM, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.comwrote:


 *I provide the ocean for **Art to command the battleships.. 

 -Elaine Tzu ;)*




Hahaha...
i like that, honey Elaine Tzu ... heard nice :)

Salam,


[ob] OIL 75.07 +1.24%

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik boyz®
hari ini tembus 76 ga yah?


Salam,


Re: [ob] Problem Email Yahoo.com.sg .....RE: Milis OB

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik boyz®
test...
Skrg ane coba balikin ke sg.

test ... ayo dong pada posting... biar ketahuan masuk atau ngga postingan
dari OB :p

Salam,


2009/10/12 Embah jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id


 Pak Boyz dan member2 lain yg pake email yahoo.com.sg,


 Mau tanya:  Apakah problem tidak bisa terima posting yg dialami member OB
 dengan email yahoo.com.sg sudah NORMAL kembali ?.

 Mohon konfirmasinya ...



 -Original Message-
 From: Enerchi [mailto:wantofa...@yahoo.com.sg]
 Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:21 AM
 To: jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id
 Subject: Milis OB

 Malam mbah, woe punya yahoo kok ga terima milis OB hari ini? Apa yg terjadi
 ya??? Pls advise.
 Enerchi BlackBerryR




 

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Re: [ob] Problem Email Yahoo.com.sg .....RE: Milis OB

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik boyz®
Aminn... di do'ain banyak duit sama mBah :D
Mungkin memang karena yahoo memang lagi error kali mBah.

Salam,

2009/10/12 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id

 Berarti orang Indonesia yg banyak duitnya di Singapore
 seperti pak Boyz belon selesai dikerjainnya... hehehe...

 BUMI aja nyentuh 2800 lagi...

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, m4573rs m457...@... wrote:
 
 
  Error-nya belum selesai kayaknya, mBah.
 
  tetep email yg di yahoo.com.sg belum terima posting dari OB.
 
  Ini ane reply dari web yahoogroups.
 
 
 
  Thx atas bantuan rekan2. :)
 
 
 
  Salam,
 
 
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, dholiaq dholiaq@ wrote:
  
   testing pak boyz gimane, terima ndak
  
  
   2009/10/12 boyz® m4573rs@
  
   
   
test...
Skrg ane coba balikin ke sg.
   
test ... ayo dong pada posting... biar ketahuan masuk atau ngga
  postingan
dari OB :p
   
Salam,
   
   
2009/10/12 Embah jsx-consultant@
   
   
Pak Boyz dan member2 lain yg pake email yahoo.com.sg,
   
   
Mau tanya:  Apakah problem tidak bisa terima posting yg dialami
  member OB
dengan email yahoo.com.sg sudah NORMAL kembali ?.
   
Mohon konfirmasinya ...
   
   
   
-Original Message-
From: Enerchi [mailto:wantofa...@]
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:21 AM
To: Jsx-consultant@
Subject: Milis OB
   
Malam mbah, woe punya yahoo kok ga terima milis OB hari ini? Apa yg
terjadi
ya??? Pls advise.
Enerchi BlackBerryR
   
   
   
   

   
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Re: [ob] Ada apa turun?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik boyz®
Capital OutFlow?  Sorry, bukan maksud menakuti.
Saya ga terlalu merhatikan, barangkali ada yg perhatiin Money Flow
belakangan ini?
mBah, Elaine, Kang Bagus, om HMin, om DE, bang ABN or rekan2 yg lain pls
share.

Salam,


On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Peter Alimin milis...@live.com wrote:

 Seharian nggak pantau market..kenapa turun ya? Bumi effect kah?
 Padahal eropa ++, oil siap2 break 73..
 Dow fut jg ijo royo2?
 Any comment..
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Re: [ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik boyz®
Kalau takut mencintai 
or takut jatuh cinta  ??

*Dangdut mode ON*. :p



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 *Subject: *[ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?



 taat krn takut nga akan meningkatkan spritual seseorang

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 David Lau dj_davi...@... wrote:
 
  Menurut saya, orang² yg bs mencapai hal² seperti hanyalah orang² yg
 tingkat spiritualnya sdh tinggi (dekat ama Sang Pencipta).
 
 
  Takut akan Tuhan akan membuat orang menjadi bijaksana.
 
 
  Regards,...
  DvDâ„¢
 
  In Te Domine, Speravi Non Confundar In Aeternum
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:40 PM
  Subject: [ob] Re: (OOT) To Mbah, mohon sharing, nikmatnya dimana..?
 
  Tuhan memberikan KENIKMATAN SETIAP SAAT kalo anda BISA
  MENSYUKURI apapun yg Tuhan berikan.
 
  Jadi untuk mencapai KENIKMATAN itu tidak perlu menunggu
  sampai cita cita anda TERCAPAI. Kalo anda punya pikiran
  seperti ini berarti anda MENDERITA selama cita2 anda
  belum tercapai...
 
  Setiap HARI dan Setiap SAAT adalah KENIKMATAN 
 
  Embah merasa NIKMAT dari detik pertama embah bangun pagi
  dengan SEHAT karena Tuhan masih memberikan KARUNIANYA yg
  terbesar bagi manusia yaitu KEHIDUPAN.
 
  Tapi kalo anda mau MENGHILANGKAN KEMIKMATAN ini karena ada yg
  anda inginkan belum tercapai, itu TERGANTUNG pribadi masing2.
 
  Tapi pada dasarnya Tuhan SUDAH memberikan kita KENIKMATAN dan
  KEBAHAGIAN dari DETIK PERTAMA kita lahir sampai kita menghembuskan
  nafas terakhir, Tinggal persepsi kita masing2 MEMANDANG INI...
 
  Buat kelanjutannya tanya ama Aagym aja... embah bukan ahlinya..
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, habe.inc@ wrote:
  
   Mbah,
   Setelah bertahun-tahun mengawal milis dan expert di bandarmologi,
 tentunya
  produksi uang hanya masalah seberapa banyak...
   Jadi nikmatnya dimana Mbah? Selaku newbie dan suatu saat ingin bisa
  mencapai level spt Mbah, setelah itu bingung mau apa..
   Trims Mbah..
  
   Habe
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Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik boyz®
Yup, bisa jadi Capital Outflow.

kalau ada Capital Outflow, tapi diimbangi dengan Capital Inflow dengan
selisih volume yg tidak terlalu besar, seharus-nya IDX masih aman.
Tapi kalau defisit capital flow-nya banyak, ya siap2 aja koreksi.

Bukan nakut2in sih, cuma mengingatan aja untuk siap2.
Lagian kalo IDX koreksi, ya wajarlah. Ya kan?

Don't affraid, be prepared.



On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:09 PM, katrin kusu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ada analisa nya gak pak ? Ini BD lagi contra rian, atau keseret Bumi, atau
 akumulasi, atau fund out flow ya ?
 Oil segitu ihsg malah nyilem.. :(

 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Alimin  milis...@live.com
 Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:04:18
 To: OBobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

 Oil udah sempet 73,5 break 74 atau dkt2 75 should be easylah..
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 -Original Message-
 From: Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@yahoo.com
 Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:03:18
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...





  Sebelumnya Colin Twiggs memprediksi bahwa Dow akan jebol karena Head N
 shoulder pattern (sekitar bbrp bln lalu)

 Akankah kali ini kontra lagi analisanya?
 

 From:  Aria Bela Nusa ariab...@centrin.net.id
 Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:58:44 +0700
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [ob] Dow 10,000...





 Dow 10,000

 By Colin Twiggs
  October 12, 3:00 a.m. ET (6:00 p.m. AET)
 These extracts from my trading diary are for educational purposes and
 should not be interpreted as investment or trading advice. Full terms and
 conditions can be found at Terms of
 Use http://www.incrediblecharts.com/legal_vizhon/terms_of_use.htm .
 We remain in the high-risk period following the end of the third quarter.
 The Dow is also testing its key resistance level of 1, while the FTSE
 100 and ASX 200 are testing their key level of 5000. Upward breakout would
 confirm a bull market, while respect of these levels would warn of a
 secondary correction.
 In the long term, we are not out of the woods. John Mauldin in Thoughts
 From
 The Frontline http://www.frontlinethoughts.com/article.asp?id=mwo100909
  highlights recent research by Peter Bernholz (Professor of Economics at the
 University of Basel, Switzerland) into the causes of hyper-inflation. In his
 book Monetary
 Regimes and Inflation: History, Economic and Political Relationships 
 http://astore.amazon.com/incrediblecha-20/detail/1845427785 , Bernholz
 analyzes 12 of the largest episodes of hyper-inflation in the last 20 years.
 All were caused by financing huge public budget deficits through money
 creation and he concludes that the tipping point for hyper-inflation occurs
 when government deficits exceed 40% of expenditures.
 US budget deficits of 40 per cent or more are projected for 2009 and 2010,
 a clear warning despite the current credit contraction. If hyper-inflation
 occurs, traders would want to be short on bonds and long on real assets such
 as stocks, precious metals and real estate. The recent surge in gold
 indicates that inflationary fears are growing.
 Commodities

 Baltic Dry Index reversal above 2500 indicates that demand for bulk
 commodity shipping is recovering - a positive sign for commodity prices and
 resources stocks. Retracement that respects the September low would signal
 the start of a primary advance.
  Baltic Dry Index
 The RJ/CRB Commodities Index found support at 250 and is now rallying to
 test 270; breakout would confirm a primary advance to 300*. Reversal below
 247 is now unlikely, but would warn of reversal to a primary down-trend.
  CRB Commodities Index
 * Target calculation: 266 + ( 266 - 232 ) = 300
 USA

 Dow Jones Industrial Average

 The Dow found support at 9500 before rallying to test 1. Reversal below
 9500 would indicate a secondary correction, while breakout above 1 would
 signal another primary advance. Twiggs Money Flow (21-day), however, still
 shows a bearish divergence and reversal below zero would indicate a
 correction. In the long term, breakout above 1 would offer a target of
 12000*; failure of support at 8000 is unlikely, but would signal reversal to
 a primary down-trend.
  Dow Jones Industrial Average
 * Target calculation: 1 + ( 1 - 8000 ) = 12000



 

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Re: [ob] New member!

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik boyz®
@Elaine: How nice.
@Kyce: Welcome...  jgn lupa kirim foto dan biodata untuk arsip milis :)

Salam,


On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:00 AM, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com wrote:



 *Hello kyce, I've been here for a while and also an expert, hope I can
 take all of your money soon. Nice to meet you too. [?]

 *


 On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:23 AM, kyce...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:



 Hello all.. I'm new here and new in the market also, hope can learn much
 from you all. Nice too meet you all.

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Re: [ob] New member!

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik boyz®
another yahoo.com.sg's fellow...
kayaknya masih belum bisa terima posting dari OB/milis deh...

Salam,


On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:15 AM, kokol...@yahoo.co.id wrote:



 Wakakakaak...don't worry kyce...many people will help u protect your money
 from el..especially embah..don't be affraid..he..he

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 *From: * It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com
 *Date: *Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:00:31 +0700
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] New member!



 *Hello kyce, I've been here for a while and also an expert, hope I can
 take all of your money soon. Nice to meet you too. [?]

 *

 On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:23 AM, kyce...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:



 Hello all.. I'm new here and new in the market also, hope can learn much
 from you all. Nice too meet you all.

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 *From: * Aria Bela Nusa ariab...@centrin.net.id
 *Date: *Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:07:08 +0700
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *RE: [ob] Dow 10,000...



  YUP – lihat *bottom-line*-nya ‘aja, yaitu *earnings seasons* dr
 fundamental perusahaan2 bgm nanti hasilnya – hiperinflasi di sini bisa ‘aja
 berarti USD masih akan melemah2 sptnya terhadap VALAS lainnya – dstnya…


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 *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
 obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Franky chandra
 *Sent:* Monday, October 12, 2009 10:25 PM
 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...

 Maaf yah saya newbie ingin share juga, kalo menurut saya persoalan rate
 itu hanya sementara saja efeknya, tapi secara keseluruhan pasar modal itu
 tetap fokus pada teknikal dan fundamental perusahaan, so kalau saya lihat
 when the time is right,slowly but sure they will increase the rate, and the
 fed usually know how to mix it with market behaviour and they know how to
 control it, they can mix it with good news, job news, or incomes news, so
 the market still steady, they not simply increase the rate like that, a lot
 of factors in that case. Thanx

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 *From: *inpestorpembela...@gmail.com

 *Date: *Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:09:05 +

 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com

 *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...



 Kl hiperinflasi berarti inflasi tinggi -- biasanya suku bunga jg dikerek
 tinggi untuk mengimbangi laju inflasi-- kl suku bunga tinggi not good buat
 pasar modal.

 Salam

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 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com

 *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...






 numpang nanya yah, karena setengah dari saham saya ada di US, kalau
 terjadi hiperinflasi, apa saham2 usa akan ambruk juga ? dari tulisan dibawah
 kayaknya saham akan naik ? karena kalau terjadi hiperinflasi, uang amrik
 akan runtuh, jadi kalau sahamnya runtuh juga, saya kena dua arah.
 menurut teman saya, akan runtuh dua2nya.. jadi ada yang punya data
 bagaimana kondisi saham di amrik sewaktu terjadi inflasi besar2an tahun lalu
 ? biasanyakan rate meningkat dan saham turun, tapi saat kenaikan lalu yang
 luar biasa, rate fed dalam keadaan sangat tinggi dan saham tiap hari naik.

 thks dan salam atas bantuannya

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 inpestorpembela...@... wrote:
 
  Kl gak salah di milis ini beberapa bulan lalu ada yg prediksi (kl gak
 salah Stocksforliving) Dow akan ke 1 sebelum mengalami koreksi besar
 kembali ke lowestnya thn lalu. (Cmiiw)
  Just be prepare for the worst.
 
  Disclaimer on
 
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  -Original Message-
  From: Aria Bela Nusa ariab...@...
  Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:58:44
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ob] Dow 10,000...
 
 
  Dow 10,000
 
 
  By Colin Twiggs
  October 12, 3:00 a.m. ET (6:00 p.m. AET)
 
  These extracts from my trading diary are for educational purposes and
 should
  not be interpreted as investment or trading advice. Full terms and
  conditions can be found at Terms of
  http://www.incrediblecharts.com/legal_vizhon/terms_of_use.htm Use.
 
  We remain in the high-risk period following the end of the third
 quarter.
  The Dow is also testing its key resistance level of 1, while the
 FTSE
  100 and ASX 200 are testing their key level of 5000. Upward breakout
 would
  confirm a bull market, while respect of these levels would warn of a
  secondary correction.
 
  In the long term, we are not out of the woods. John Mauldin in Thoughts
 From
  http://www.frontlinethoughts.com/article.asp?id=mwo100909 The
 Frontline
  highlights recent research by Peter Bernholz (Professor of Economics at
 the
  University of Basel, Switzerland) into the causes of 

Re: [ob] IHSG: The Last Subwave 5 ?

2009-10-12 Terurut Topik boyz®
 Oops! This link appears to be broken.Salam,


On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:19 AM, jsx_consultant 
jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id wrote:

 IHSG: The Last Subwave 5 ?


 http://www.obolanbandar.com/piwihsg.png

 Will Wave 4 stop  at the  Green Line ?
 - If it does, we will have The LAST  Uptrend SubWave 5 -- SERBU !!!
 - If JEBOL, Cut Loss at the Brown line



 

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Re: [ob] who cares, bandarmology

2009-10-11 Terurut Topik boyz®
ada masalah dgn biji anda?

namanya aja milis obrolan bandar, ya topic-nya masalah perbandaran lah
(bandarmology).

Salam,


2009/10/11 albert naga albertnag...@yahoo.com



  yg penting bisa cuan buy at discount, mau dia di buang ecek ama bandarkek
 , mau di short ma bandarkek lihat chart, kemarin bumi bentuk triple
 bottom,reversal, sinyal bullist, fundamental ok, price discount from
 previuos, so who care yg penting bisa make profit, just maybe boss om ical
 uda mulai bisa memberi perhatiannya ke family company nya, after win from
 pilketum, so any bandar still dare to push pressure on the 7 brothers?, go
 ahead if you have gutts!!



 


Re: [ob] who cares, bandarmology

2009-10-11 Terurut Topik boyz®
Wakakakak
kalo mBah, Jsx_consultant = first bandarmologist.
kalo JT, Jsxtrader = first bijimologist.



HAHAHAHA.



2009/10/11 er1ck er1...@gmail.com



 ato ntar ada ilmu baru, bijimology  :-))

 2009/10/11 inpestorpembela...@gmail.com



 Wakakakkk...
 Lama lama OB jadi Obrolan Biji nih heheuaha


 Salam

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 *Cc: *albertnag...@yahoo.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] who cares, bandarmology



 ada masalah dgn biji anda?

 namanya aja milis obrolan bandar, ya topic-nya masalah perbandaran lah
 (bandarmology).

 Salam,


 2009/10/11 albert naga albertnag...@yahoo.com



  yg penting bisa cuan buy at discount, mau dia di buang ecek ama
 bandarkek , mau di short ma bandarkek lihat chart, kemarin bumi bentuk
 triple bottom,reversal, sinyal bullist, fundamental ok, price discount from
 previuos, so who care yg penting bisa make profit, just maybe boss om ical
 uda mulai bisa memberi perhatiannya ke family company nya, after win from
 pilketum, so any bandar still dare to push pressure on the 7 brothers?, go
 ahead if you have gutts!!









 


Re: [ob] who cares, bandarmology

2009-10-11 Terurut Topik boyz®
ADRO bijimane kang? lebih sexy mana dibanding ITMG?
emang ADRO agak lelet sih, goyangan (price movement) nya kurang
menggairahkan.
tapi nanti kalo dilirik sama om Arto juga goyangan-nya bisa bikin ngiler
trader.

Salam,


On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Bagus Putra Perdana 
disclosure@gmail.com wrote:



 saya bukan bandar and i wont push any pressure.. but should BUMI reach
 3000-ish lg saya mo switch sebagian ke ITMG ah.. just for the simple sake of
 logic investment.. ahoi...

 2009/10/11 albert naga albertnag...@yahoo.com



 yg penting bisa cuan buy at discount, mau dia di buang ecek ama bandarkek
 , mau di short ma bandarkek lihat chart, kemarin bumi bentuk triple
 bottom,reversal, sinyal bullist, fundamental ok, price discount from
 previuos, so who care yg penting bisa make profit, just maybe boss om ical
 uda mulai bisa memberi perhatiannya ke family company nya, after win from
 pilketum, so any bandar still dare to push pressure on the 7 brothers?, go
 ahead if you have gutts!!




 --
 Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the
 complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact,
 everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that
 we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only
 to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all
 knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”.
 - Richard Feynman


 



Re: [ob] who cares, bandarmology + Momentun BUMI masih naik

2009-10-11 Terurut Topik boyz®
Salut deh sama mBah,

nah, mumpung mBah lagi getol Teknik Profitunity, kemarin kan ane ada kirim
sedikit materi ttg Profitunity, and dari statistik di 4shared udah didonlot
oleh banyak rekan2 OB.
Ada baik-nya, kalo ada rekan2 yg masih samar2 or bingung dgn teknik tsb,
kita bahas sekalian di milis ini. Mumpung ada mBah yg mo ngajarin.

Salam,


2009/10/11 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id

 Ini milis demokratis, jadi selama engga nyinggung orangnya, masih OKE...

 Embah lagi care ama TA loh, embah lagi coba coba metoda Profitunity
 dari Bill William:

 Menurut methoda ini, momentun BUMI untuk naik masih ada,
 coba liat grafiknya:

 - http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbumi.png

 Bill William's Profitunity:
 - BUMI close antara garis Hijau dan biru, artinya BUMI sudah
  rebound kedaerah KESEIMBANGAN dimana harga
  bisa naik atau turun.
 - Tapi AO Momentun dan AC Accelator meningkat, jadi
  BUMI masih mungkin naik dengan target Red Circle
  di 3000 (Penggaris Goceng)

 Jadi bisa saja BUMI naik ke 3000 dalam 5 menit hari
 Senin... hehehe...



 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz® m457...@... wrote:
 
  Wakakakak
  kalo mBah, Jsx_consultant = first bandarmologist.
  kalo JT, Jsxtrader = first bijimologist.
 
 
 
  HAHAHAHA.
 
 
 



Re: [ob] who cares, bandarmology

2009-10-11 Terurut Topik boyz®
emang ITMG ini lumayan mantep swing-nya. Salah satu favorit ane.
Many thanks, kang Bagus... :)
GBU always...

Salam,


On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Bagus Putra Perdana 
disclosure@gmail.com wrote:



 ADRO, ITMG, PTBA, virtually Free Cash Flow Yieldnya hampir setara. hanya
 krn ITMG 2 hari belakangan ditekan. FCF Yieldnya jadi naek. dari segi
 kapitalisasi, ADRO cenderung besar dan saham beredarnya cukup banyak. PTBA
 dan ITMG lebih enteng. khusus ITMG ada katalis sebelum tgl 20 pembagian
 Dividen Interim, yg jumlahnya 49% dr laba H1, kalo itu diannualised, setara
 6 % Div Yield yg sudah cukup jd alasan untuk diambil bagi yg nyari cash
 return on investment. on contrary, FCF Yield BUMI jika harga dinaekkin terus
 sudah tidak proporsional lg untuk ditambah. opportunitu buat re-balance dan
 jaga FCF Yield ratio di portfolio. saat outlook FCF BUMI menurun di saat
 bersamaan bisa pindah ke proxy yg sama yg posisi net cash dan Yieldnya lebih
 besar. ADRO is well pak, ITMG mgkn krn market cap kecil akan lebih mudah
 diangkat lg, mgkn sebelum tgl 20 ini. waktu cum dividendnya.klo dr teknikal
 gmn pak? td ada bbrp yg bilang tren patah jd kmgkinan saya masih bisa dapet
 Div Yield (Annualised) di atas 6% minggu depan yah?.

 On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 6:43 PM, boyz® m457...@gmail.com wrote:



 ADRO bijimane kang? lebih sexy mana dibanding ITMG?
 emang ADRO agak lelet sih, goyangan (price movement) nya kurang
 menggairahkan.
 tapi nanti kalo dilirik sama om Arto juga goyangan-nya bisa bikin ngiler
 trader.

 Salam,


 On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Bagus Putra Perdana 
 disclosure@gmail.com wrote:



 saya bukan bandar and i wont push any pressure.. but should BUMI reach
 3000-ish lg saya mo switch sebagian ke ITMG ah.. just for the simple sake of
 logic investment.. ahoi...

 2009/10/11 albert naga albertnag...@yahoo.com



 yg penting bisa cuan buy at discount, mau dia di buang ecek ama
 bandarkek , mau di short ma bandarkek lihat chart, kemarin bumi bentuk
 triple bottom,reversal, sinyal bullist, fundamental ok, price discount from
 previuos, so who care yg penting bisa make profit, just maybe boss om ical
 uda mulai bisa memberi perhatiannya ke family company nya, after win from
 pilketum, so any bandar still dare to push pressure on the 7 brothers?, go
 ahead if you have gutts!!




 --
 Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to
 the complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact,
 everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that
 we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only
 to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all
 knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”.
 - Richard Feynman






 --
 Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the
 complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact,
 everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that
 we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only
 to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all
 knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”.
 - Richard Feynman


 



Re: [ob] who cares, bandarmology

2009-10-11 Terurut Topik boyz®
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 7:16 PM, highwaysta...@gmail.com wrote:

 Pak Boyz, ptba blm ada J-curve lagi nih? :)




Hahaha, yup J-Curve... ini saya juga lagi nungguin pak Rei... :)
Sinyal sih ada, tapi sayang belum ada yg teken biji-nya nih.
Kan, kata prof JT, *the first bijimologist*, [?]  kalo biji diteken
kekencengan bisa melejit.
hehehehehe.


Kata Bill William ttg PTBA  on daily Chart:

*PTBA (PTBA)
Friday, October 09, 2009*

By Bill Williams, Ph.D. C.T.A.
Profitunity Trading Group
(409) 945-8880 - p...@phoenix.net

   *Alligator:  Price is ABOVE **the alligator
   Zone:  Green Zone
   Awesome Oscillator (AO):  Increasing
   Accelerator (AC):  Increasing
*
*Open: 14,100.00
High:  14,300.00
Low:   14,050.00
Close: 14,100.00
Alligator Jaw: 13,578.62
Alligator Teeth:   13,892.02
Alligator Lips:14,071.42*

*Close is above the Alligator which means we are only interested in a long
position.
The AO is Increasing (Green AO bar) which means that the momentum is up.
The AC is Increasing (Green AC bar) which means that the upward momentum is
accelerating.  With both the AO and the AC increasing the Price Bar should
also be Green.
If not already long this is a good place to look for a Fractal or other
signal to buy.*


Salam,
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Re: [ob] who cares, bandarmology + Momentun BUMI masih naik

2009-10-11 Terurut Topik boyz®
Nah, justru karena ada yg 'jagain' itu berarti sudah ada 'jin penunggu'-nya
alias sponsor-nya.
tinggal kita bakar menyan plus kasih sesajen biar penunggu-nya joged-joged.
Hehehe...

ntar deh bro, kalo jendral arto udah selesai pusingnya oleh BUMI,
kita ajak do'i main2 disitu.

Salam,


2009/10/11 ksatria_timur_laut ksatria_timur_l...@ymail.com


 Kek nya msh tetap lebih sakti penggaris goceng dah hahaha ... ngak pake
 pusing2 pak Boyz ... trading selama 2009 pake penggaris goceng Embah always
 work for me.

 sekalian tambahan ... utk ADRO ... dari akhir bulan Sept smp hari Jum'at
 kemarin ... sepertinya ada yg jaga'in .. tinggal tunggu kompor dari master2
 JT, Boyz or Jend A9 aje ... apalagi kang ocoy uda review OK ... kite seh
 udah siap ikut dari belakang hehehe


 Regards,


  -Original Message-
  From: boyz® m457...@...
  Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:55:30
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [ob] who cares, bandarmology + Momentun BUMI masih naik
 
  Salut deh sama mBah,
 
  nah, mumpung mBah lagi getol Teknik Profitunity, kemarin kan ane ada
 kirim
  sedikit materi ttg Profitunity, and dari statistik di 4shared udah
 didonlot
  oleh banyak rekan2 OB.
  Ada baik-nya, kalo ada rekan2 yg masih samar2 or bingung dgn teknik tsb,
  kita bahas sekalian di milis ini. Mumpung ada mBah yg mo ngajarin.
 
  Salam,
 
 
  2009/10/11 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@...
 
   Ini milis demokratis, jadi selama engga nyinggung orangnya, masih
 OKE...
  
   Embah lagi care ama TA loh, embah lagi coba coba metoda Profitunity
   dari Bill William:
  
   Menurut methoda ini, momentun BUMI untuk naik masih ada,
   coba liat grafiknya:
  
   - http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbumi.png
  
   Bill William's Profitunity:
   - BUMI close antara garis Hijau dan biru, artinya BUMI sudah
rebound kedaerah KESEIMBANGAN dimana harga
bisa naik atau turun.
   - Tapi AO Momentun dan AC Accelator meningkat, jadi
BUMI masih mungkin naik dengan target Red Circle
di 3000 (Penggaris Goceng)
  
   Jadi bisa saja BUMI naik ke 3000 dalam 5 menit hari
   Senin... hehehe...
  
  
  
   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz® m4573rz@ wrote:
   
Wakakakak
kalo mBah, Jsx_consultant = first bandarmologist.
kalo JT, Jsxtrader = first bijimologist.
   
   
   
HAHAHAHA.
   
   
   
  
 




 

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Re: 5 menit 3000 ! Re: [ob] who cares, bandarmology + Momentun BUMI masih naik

2009-10-11 Terurut Topik boyz®
4000 dalam seminggu? ... hhhmmm. What a brave statement.
Ane aja sampe hampir jatuh gedubrak baca imel om Arto saking kagetnya.

Ane udah pelintir2 nih leher liatin chart bolak balik, masih blom bisa
kelihatan tuh angka 4000 dalam seminggu.
Memang, kalo pake Fibonacci Extension 161.8% sih baru kelihatan deh 4034.
But, that quick? a week, 5 trading days, i am not so sure...



But who knows lah... anything can happen on BUMI.
Besok pagi dah ane kasak kusuk.

Salam,


2009/10/11 Embah jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id



 Apakah anda punya analisa yg menunjukan BUMI akan ke 4000 dalam seminngu ?.

 Kalo ada, please di share Kalo engga ada mohon DIRALAT


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 obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *artomoro9
 *Sent:* Sunday, October 11, 2009 7:27 PM
 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject:* 5 menit 3000 ! Re: [ob] who cares, bandarmology + Momentun BUMI
 masih naik




 dikit amat 3000 mbah...?


 kalo 4000 dalam 1 minggu gimana mbah..?
 cakep ga...?



 regards,
 A9
 disclaimeronBIJI.

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Re: 5 menit 3000 ! Re: [ob] who cares, bandarmology + Momentun BUMI masih naik

2009-10-11 Terurut Topik boyz®
Yg jadi masalah bukan cuma sampe 4000 aje, bro...
Kalo BUMI turun dulu ke 2000 trus bulan depan or tahun depan baru ke 4000,
apa para prajurit masih punya biji lengkap seperti jenderal-nya?

4000 dalam seminggu, mennn... that's the question mark.

Salam,


2009/10/11 ruzli...@gmail.com



 Analisa kalau sdh 4000:
 Done, I Tot U, Masih Punya Biji Lengkap...
 Om Arto BD Paling OK di OB..
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 *From: * artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id
 *Date: *Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:57:33 +0800 (SGT)
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *RE: 5 menit 3000 ! Re: [ob] who cares, bandarmology + Momentun
 BUMI masih naik




 mohon maaf mbah.

 kan ngarep boleh dong mbah.

 oke deh di ralat, karena ga ada analisanya.


 sorry semua. anggap aja posting tadi gak ada.

 maaf maaf.


 regards,
 A9
 note:
 nanti saya kasi analisanya atau komentar saya kalo udah 4000 aja ya mbah.

 --- Pada *Ming, 11/10/09, Embah jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id* menulis:


 Dari: Embah jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id
 Judul: RE: 5 menit 3000 ! Re: [ob] who cares, bandarmology + Momentun BUMI
 masih naik
 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Tanggal: Minggu, 11 Oktober, 2009, 7:44 PM



 Apakah anda punya analisa yg menunjukan BUMI akan ke 4000 dalam seminngu ?.

 Kalo ada, please di share Kalo engga ada mohon DIRALAT


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 *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
 obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *artomoro9
 *Sent:* Sunday, October 11, 2009 7:27 PM
 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject:* 5 menit 3000 ! Re: [ob] who cares, bandarmology + Momentun BUMI
 masih naik




 dikit amat 3000 mbah...?


 kalo 4000 dalam 1 minggu gimana mbah..?
 cakep ga...?



 regards,
 A9
 disclaimeronBIJI.

 --- Pada *Ming, 11/10/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id
 * menulis:


 Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id
 Judul: Re: [ob] who cares, bandarmology + Momentun BUMI masih naik
 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Tanggal: Minggu, 11 Oktober, 2009, 6:44 PM

 Ini milis demokratis, jadi selama engga nyinggung orangnya, masih OKE...

 Embah lagi care ama TA loh, embah lagi coba coba metoda Profitunity
 dari Bill William:

 Menurut methoda ini, momentun BUMI untuk naik masih ada,
 coba liat grafiknya:

 - http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ 
 piwbumi.pnghttp://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbumi.png

 Bill William's Profitunity:
 - BUMI close antara garis Hijau dan biru, artinya BUMI sudah
   rebound kedaerah KESEIMBANGAN dimana harga
   bisa naik atau turun.
 - Tapi AO Momentun dan AC Accelator meningkat, jadi
   BUMI masih mungkin naik dengan target Red Circle
   di 3000 (Penggaris Goceng)

 Jadi bisa saja BUMI naik ke 3000 dalam 5 menit hari
 Senin... hehehe...



 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, boyz® m457...@... wrote:
 
  Wakakakak... .
  kalo mBah, Jsx_consultant = first bandarmologist.
  kalo JT, Jsxtrader = first bijimologist.
 
 
 
  HAHAHAHA .
 
 
 
  2009/10/11 er1ck er1...@...
 
  
  
   ato ntar ada ilmu baru, bijimology  :-))
  
   2009/10/11 inpestorpembelajar@ ...
  
  
  
   Wakakakkk...
   Lama lama OB jadi Obrolan Biji nih heheuaha
  
  
   Salam
  
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   *From: * boyz® m457...@...
   *Date: *Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:11:47 +0700
   *To: *obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
   *Cc: *albertnaga88@ ...
   *Subject: *Re: [ob] who cares, bandarmology
  
  
  
   ada masalah dgn biji anda?
  
   namanya aja milis obrolan bandar, ya topic-nya masalah perbandaran lah
   (bandarmology) .
  
   Salam,
  
  
   2009/10/11 albert naga albertnaga88@ ...
  
  
  
yg penting bisa cuan buy at discount, mau dia di buang ecek ama
   bandarkek , mau di short ma bandarkek lihat chart, kemarin bumi
 bentuk
   triple bottom,reversal, sinyal bullist, fundamental ok, price
 discount from
   previuos, so who care yg penting bisa make profit, just maybe boss om
 ical
   uda mulai bisa memberi perhatiannya ke family company nya, after win
 from
   pilketum, so any bandar still dare to push pressure on the 7
 brothers?, go
   ahead if you have gutts!!
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 




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Re: 5 menit 3000 ! Re: [ob] who cares, bandarmology + Momentun BUMI masih naik

2009-10-11 Terurut Topik boyz®
Duh, sadis amat mBah,
jangan di tembak lah prajurit yg desersi...
Di cabut aja biji-nya.



Salam,

2009/10/11 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id

 Anda harus bangga dipanggil Jendral dan bukan analis tapi
 sebagai Jendral ada Requirementnya:
 - Posting yg DIRECTIVE
 - Posting yg JELAS dan TEGAS
 - Posting yg TIDAK mencla mencle

 Kalo engga nanti dipanggil Jendral Kancil... hehehe...

 Dan sebagai jendral, anda boleh menembak member OB yg
 membangkang atau desersi (PT sendirian).

 Ayo kamu BISA, jendral Arto

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, artomoro9 artomo...@... wrote:
 
 
  mohon maaf mbah.
 
  kan ngarep boleh dong mbah.
 
  oke deh di ralat, karena ga ada analisanya.
 
 
  sorry semua. anggap aja posting tadi gak ada.
 
  maaf maaf.
 
 
  regards,
 
  A9
  note:
 
  nanti saya kasi analisanya atau komentar saya kalo udah 4000 aja ya mbah.
 
  --- Pada Ming, 11/10/09, Embah jsx-consult...@... menulis:
 
  Dari: Embah jsx-consult...@...
  Judul: RE: 5 menit 3000 ! Re: [ob] who cares, bandarmology + Momentun
 BUMI masih naik
  Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Tanggal: Minggu, 11 Oktober, 2009, 7:44 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Apakah anda punya analisa yg menunjukan BUMI akan ke 4000
  dalam seminngu ?.
 
  Kalo ada, please di share Kalo engga ada mohon
  DIRALAT
 
 
 
 
  From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
  artomoro9
  Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 7:27 PM
  To:
  obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: 5 menit 3000 ! Re: [ob] who
  cares, bandarmology + Momentun BUMI masih naik
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  dikit amat 3000 mbah...?
 
 
  kalo 4000 dalam 1
minggu gimana mbah..?
  cakep
ga...?
 
 
 
  regards,
  A9
  disclaimeronBIJI.
 
  --- Pada
Ming, 11/10/09, jsx_consultant
jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id menulis:
 
 
  Dari:
  jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id
  Judul:
  Re: [ob] who cares, bandarmology + Momentun BUMI masih naik
  Kepada:
  obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  Tanggal: Minggu, 11 Oktober,
  2009, 6:44 PM
 
 
  Ini milis demokratis, jadi selama engga nyinggung
  orangnya, masih OKE...
 
  Embah lagi care ama TA loh, embah lagi
  coba coba metoda Profitunity
  dari Bill William:
 
  Menurut
  methoda ini, momentun BUMI untuk naik masih ada,
  coba liat
  grafiknya:
 
  - http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwbumi.png
 
  Bill
  William's Profitunity:
  - BUMI close antara garis Hijau dan biru,
  artinya BUMI sudah
rebound kedaerah KESEIMBANGAN dimana
  harga
bisa naik atau turun.
  - Tapi AO Momentun dan AC
  Accelator meningkat, jadi
BUMI masih mungkin naik dengan
  target Red Circle
di 3000 (Penggaris Goceng)
 
 
  Jadi bisa saja BUMI
  naik ke 3000 dalam 5 menit hari
  Senin...
  hehehe...
 
 
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com,
  boyz® m4573rz@ wrote:
  
  
  Wakakakak... .
   kalo mBah, Jsx_consultant = first
  bandarmologist.
   kalo JT, Jsxtrader = first bijimologist.
  
 
  
  
   HAHAHAHA .
  
  
  
 
   2009/10/11 er1ck er11ck@
  
  
  
   
ato ntar ada ilmu baru, bijimology
  :-))
   
2009/10/11
  inpestorpembelajar@ ...
   
  
  
   
Wakakakkk...
   
  Lama lama OB jadi Obrolan Biji nih heheuaha
   
  
  
Salam
   
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*From: *
  boyz® m4573rz@
*Date: *Sun, 11 Oct 2009
  18:11:47 +0700
*To: *obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  
   *Cc: *albertnaga88@ ...
*Subject:
  *Re: [ob] who cares, bandarmology
   
  
  
   
ada masalah dgn biji
  anda?
   
namanya aja milis obrolan
  bandar, ya topic-nya masalah perbandaran lah
   
  (bandarmology) .
   
Salam,
  
  
   
2009/10/11 albert naga
  albertnaga88@ ...
   
  
  
   
 yg penting
  bisa cuan buy at discount, mau dia di buang ecek ama
  
   bandarkek , mau di short ma bandarkek lihat chart, kemarin
  bumi bentuk
triple bottom,reversal, sinyal bullist,
  fundamental ok, price discount from
previuos, so
  who care yg penting bisa make profit, just maybe boss om ical
  
   uda mulai bisa memberi perhatiannya ke family company nya,
  after win from
pilketum, so any bandar still dare
  to push pressure on the 7 brothers?, go
ahead if
  you have gutts!!
   
   
  
  
   
   
  
  
   
   
   
  
  
  
 
 
 
 
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Re: 5 menit 3000 ! Re: [ob] who cares, bandarmology + Momentun BUMI masih naik

2009-10-11 Terurut Topik boyz®
http://www.mail-archive.com/obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com/msg171857.html

Salam,


2009/10/11 Maximilian Kurniawan maximilian_fe...@yahoo.com

 Dear P Boyz,

 Mohon pencerahannya,krn email sy beberapa waktu lalu error,mohon di share
 link untuk mengenai profitunitynya...

 Makasih banyak sebelumnya...tx

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Re: [ob] who cares, bandarmology + Momentun BUMI masih naik

2009-10-11 Terurut Topik boyz®
Hah? mBah masih brondong?
pantesan bu Fify nge-fans banget sama mBah :p

kaburrr...



2009/10/12 Hans h...@bumianyar.net



 Munkin embah masih abg... Masih brondong...
 Eh abg nya apa ya...
 Angkatan babeh gue Hehe...
 Canda mbah...

 Thx
 Hans

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 *Date: *Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:53:47 +0700
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] who cares, bandarmology + Momentun BUMI masih naik



 ha ha ha
 mentang-mentang panggilannya Embah... apa udah pasti berumur... belum tentu
 lah...   :))

 Salam...



 2009/10/11 inpestorpembela...@gmail.com



 Betul2 salut ama Mbah, demokratis dan terutama semangat belajarnya ruarr
 biasa meski sudah berumur, very inspiring..

 Tks mbah..

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 *From: * boyz® m457...@gmail.com
 *Date: *Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:55:30 +0700
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] who cares, bandarmology + Momentun BUMI masih naik



 Salut deh sama mBah,

 nah, mumpung mBah lagi getol Teknik Profitunity, kemarin kan ane ada kirim
 sedikit materi ttg Profitunity, and dari statistik di 4shared udah didonlot
 oleh banyak rekan2 OB.
 Ada baik-nya, kalo ada rekan2 yg masih samar2 or bingung dgn teknik tsb,
 kita bahas sekalian di milis ini. Mumpung ada mBah yg mo ngajarin.

 Salam,


 2009/10/11 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id

 Ini milis demokratis, jadi selama engga nyinggung orangnya, masih OKE...

 Embah lagi care ama TA loh, embah lagi coba coba metoda Profitunity
 dari Bill William:

 Menurut methoda ini, momentun BUMI untuk naik masih ada,
 coba liat grafiknya:

 - http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbumi.png

 Bill William's Profitunity:
 - BUMI close antara garis Hijau dan biru, artinya BUMI sudah
  rebound kedaerah KESEIMBANGAN dimana harga
  bisa naik atau turun.
 - Tapi AO Momentun dan AC Accelator meningkat, jadi
  BUMI masih mungkin naik dengan target Red Circle
  di 3000 (Penggaris Goceng)

 Jadi bisa saja BUMI naik ke 3000 dalam 5 menit hari
 Senin... hehehe...




 



Re: [ob] Dollar Rises, Bonds Fall on Bernanke Comments; Commodities Drop

2009-10-10 Terurut Topik boyz®
as quick as making a phone call, hehehe... *told ya*.

Yet, I haven't see convincing signal at USD Index chart.
What do you think about it, EL? Can it be catalyst for it (*you know what i
mean*)?

Salam,



On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:51 PM, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com wrote:



 *That was quick, right boyz..*? [?]


 On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:45 PM, trader8...@gmail.com wrote:


  Oct. 9 (Bloomberg) -- The dollar rose against the yen and the euro and
 government bonds fell after Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke said
 the bank will tighten monetary policy once the economy improves.
 Commodities slipped.

  The U.S. currency advanced as much as 1.3 percent versus the yen, the
 most since Aug. 7, and was up 1.2 percent at 10:42 a.m. in New York. Yields
 on two-year Treasuries rose as much as 10 basis points and on German notes
 as much as 13 basis points. Copper fell 1.5 percent. The Standard  Poor’s
 500 Index rose 0.2 percent.

  The Fed will need to raise rates “at some point” to control inflation,
 Bernanke said at a Board of Governors conference yesterday in Washington.
 Australia’s Reserve Bank unexpectedly increased its key rate Oct. 6. The
 MSCI World Index of 23 developed stocks has advanced 4.4 percent this week
 as U.S. jobless claims fell more than analysts estimated and Alcoa Inc.
 reported an unexpected profit.

  Bernanke’s remarks “were interpreted to suggest that the Fed stood ready
 to tighten,” Gareth Berry, a currency strategist at UBS AG in Singapore,
 wrote in a note today. “The comments come as investors look for evidence
 that the policy tightening timetables of other central banks will be brought
 forward” after the Australian move.

  The Dollar Index, which IntercontinentalExchange Inc. uses to track the
 currency against the yen, euro, Swiss franc, pound, Swedish krona and
 Canadian dollar, rose 0.3 percent to 76.220. It fell to 75.767 yesterday,
 the lowest level since August 2008.

  Yen Drops

  The yen fell against all 16 most-traded currencies tracked by Bloomberg,
 losing 1.2 percent versus the dollar, after Japan’s Cabinet office said
 machinery orders rose 0.5 percent in August, compared with the 2.1 percent
 increase predicted in a Bloomberg survey of 27 economists.

  The increase in the German two-year yield narrowed the gap, or spread,
 with the 10-year bund by four basis points to 183 basis points, the lowest
 level since April 29, based on closing prices. The U.S. Treasury spread was
 little changed at 237 basis points.

  Copper for delivery in three months fell as much as 2.1 percent on the
 London Metal Exchange, leading a decline in industrial metals. Crude oil was
 little changed at $71.90 a barrel in New York trading. Gold for immediate
 delivery declined 0.5 percent to $1,049.45 an ounce. The metal rose to a
 record for three consecutive days this week.

  European Stocks

  Europe’s Dow Jones Stoxx 600 Index slipped 0.5 percent after earlier
 rising as much as 0.3 percent. BHP Billiton Ltd., the world’s largest mining
 company, fell for the first time in five days, losing 0.6 percent.

  Developing-nation shares rose for a fifth day. The MSCI Emerging Markets
 Index added 0.5 percent, extending its weekly increase to 4.8 percent, the
 most since July 17.

  The Shanghai Composite Index of stocks in China posted its biggest gain
 in five weeks as the nation’s markets opened after an eight-day holiday.

  China’s banking regulator said today it would be premature for the
 government to start winding down stimulus efforts in the world’s
 third-largest economy.

  “It’s far too early to talk about an exit strategy,” Liu Mingkang,
 chairman of the China Banking Regulatory Commission, told a conference in
 Hong Kong. The economy “may face a bumpy road ahead.”

  The International Monetary Fund on Oct. 1 raised its forecast for global
 growth next year as more than $2 trillion in stimulus packages and demand in
 Asia pull the world economy out of its worst recession since World War II.
 The Washington-based IMF said the economy will expand 3.1 percent in 2010,
 after a July forecast of 2.5 percent.

  To contact the reporter on this story: Justin Carrigan in London at
 jcarri...@bloomberg.net

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Re: [ob] Dollar Rises, Bonds Fall on Bernanke Comments; Commodities Drop

2009-10-10 Terurut Topik boyz®
as quick as making a phone call, hehehe... *told ya*.

Yet, I haven't see convincing signal at USD Index chart.
What do you think about it, EL? Can it be catalyst for it (*you know what i
mean*)?

Salam,


On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:51 PM, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com wrote:



 *That was quick, right boyz..*? [?]


 On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:45 PM, trader8...@gmail.com wrote:


  Oct. 9 (Bloomberg) -- The dollar rose against the yen and the euro and
 government bonds fell after Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke said
 the bank will tighten monetary policy once the economy improves.
 Commodities slipped.

  The U.S. currency advanced as much as 1.3 percent versus the yen, the
 most since Aug. 7, and was up 1.2 percent at 10:42 a.m. in New York. Yields
 on two-year Treasuries rose as much as 10 basis points and on German notes
 as much as 13 basis points. Copper fell 1.5 percent. The Standard  Poor’s
 500 Index rose 0.2 percent.

  The Fed will need to raise rates “at some point” to control inflation,
 Bernanke said at a Board of Governors conference yesterday in Washington.
 Australia’s Reserve Bank unexpectedly increased its key rate Oct. 6. The
 MSCI World Index of 23 developed stocks has advanced 4.4 percent this week
 as U.S. jobless claims fell more than analysts estimated and Alcoa Inc.
 reported an unexpected profit.

  Bernanke’s remarks “were interpreted to suggest that the Fed stood ready
 to tighten,” Gareth Berry, a currency strategist at UBS AG in Singapore,
 wrote in a note today. “The comments come as investors look for evidence
 that the policy tightening timetables of other central banks will be brought
 forward” after the Australian move.

  The Dollar Index, which IntercontinentalExchange Inc. uses to track the
 currency against the yen, euro, Swiss franc, pound, Swedish krona and
 Canadian dollar, rose 0.3 percent to 76.220. It fell to 75.767 yesterday,
 the lowest level since August 2008.

  Yen Drops

  The yen fell against all 16 most-traded currencies tracked by Bloomberg,
 losing 1.2 percent versus the dollar, after Japan’s Cabinet office said
 machinery orders rose 0.5 percent in August, compared with the 2.1 percent
 increase predicted in a Bloomberg survey of 27 economists.

  The increase in the German two-year yield narrowed the gap, or spread,
 with the 10-year bund by four basis points to 183 basis points, the lowest
 level since April 29, based on closing prices. The U.S. Treasury spread was
 little changed at 237 basis points.

  Copper for delivery in three months fell as much as 2.1 percent on the
 London Metal Exchange, leading a decline in industrial metals. Crude oil was
 little changed at $71.90 a barrel in New York trading. Gold for immediate
 delivery declined 0.5 percent to $1,049.45 an ounce. The metal rose to a
 record for three consecutive days this week.

  European Stocks

  Europe’s Dow Jones Stoxx 600 Index slipped 0.5 percent after earlier
 rising as much as 0.3 percent. BHP Billiton Ltd., the world’s largest mining
 company, fell for the first time in five days, losing 0.6 percent.

  Developing-nation shares rose for a fifth day. The MSCI Emerging Markets
 Index added 0.5 percent, extending its weekly increase to 4.8 percent, the
 most since July 17.

  The Shanghai Composite Index of stocks in China posted its biggest gain
 in five weeks as the nation’s markets opened after an eight-day holiday.

  China’s banking regulator said today it would be premature for the
 government to start winding down stimulus efforts in the world’s
 third-largest economy.

  “It’s far too early to talk about an exit strategy,” Liu Mingkang,
 chairman of the China Banking Regulatory Commission, told a conference in
 Hong Kong. The economy “may face a bumpy road ahead.”

  The International Monetary Fund on Oct. 1 raised its forecast for global
 growth next year as more than $2 trillion in stimulus packages and demand in
 Asia pull the world economy out of its worst recession since World War II.
 The Washington-based IMF said the economy will expand 3.1 percent in 2010,
 after a July forecast of 2.5 percent.

  To contact the reporter on this story: Justin Carrigan in London at
 jcarri...@bloomberg.net

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Re: done ! Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz

2009-10-10 Terurut Topik boyz®
Biji-nya beda bro. Hehehe...

Salam,


2009/10/10 JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com



  Yup.., DE Freq Analyser kalau liat cara kerjanya dibuat oleh boss DE
 untuk medeteksi akumulasi dimana terjadi pembelian secara diam-diam oleh
 BD…, dan ini biasanya terjadi saat harga sideways dan perdagangan yg relatif
 quiet, sementara BUMI bbrp hari belakangan ini kondisinya jelas berbeda...



 JT



 *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
 obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *highwaysta...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* 10 Oktober 2009 20:49

 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: done ! Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9
 n Boyz





 Eh iya ngerti maksud pak MD. Tp bukannya Freq Analzr lbh pas kalo harga
 lagi sideways?

 Sent from my computer of course!
  --

 *From: *Marcello Djunaidy mdjuna...@gmail.com

 *Date: *Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:06:49 +0700

 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com

 *Subject: *Re: done ! Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9
 n Boyz



 Kalo liat chart ini sih...saya pribadi takut (ada balik arah trend)..sebab
 waktu cross down bollinger band terus membal, kok kayaknya retail semua yang
 nampung ya? tiang orange nya kecil bener...



 Pak DE, ada komentar gak?





 regards



 MD

 2009/10/10 Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com



 Iya pak betul  cuma ya gimana ya, ini Bumi lho...saham sejuta umat jadi
 pasti ada ketakutan yg dalam dari pemegang saham tsb.

 2009/10/9 Marcello Djunaidy mdjuna...@gmail.com





 Kemarin itu BUMI cross down bollinger bawah ya. Biasanya sih mental balik?
 CMIIW







 regards





 MD

 2009/10/9 boyz® m457...@gmail.com



 Wah, gak hebat kok. Cuma kebetulan aja lagi bener pak.

 Salam,


   2009/10/9 arisugiarto.sant...@gmail.com



 Pak Boyz
 Hebat!anda tahunya bumi bakal rebound dari mana?apa murni krn oversold atau
 ada faktor lain?kan price down dgn heavy volume.gimana cara deteksi hal
 serupa utk saham2 lain?

 Thx

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 *Date: *Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:39:34 +0700

 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com

 *Subject: *Re: done ! Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9
 n Boyz





 Just did a good job?  He just did great job !
 Congratz to General Artomoro...

 And thanks to all involved in this show, yg terjun kelapangan maupun yg
 nonton di pinggiran, pasukan elit, reguler bahkan pasukan cadangan yg belum
 sempet terjun.
 And great thanks to BOZZ yg hari ini bersedia 'mempertunjukkan' sedikit
 kepiawaian strategy-nya untuk ditonton dan dianalisa oleh mereka2 yg watch
 and take attention on BUMI movement.

 @Elaine: d u think every move should inline with fundamental reason? i
 thought that is for long run.

 Salam,

  2009/10/9 It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com



 *Cuma tanya saja. Art did a good job today. I wonder if there's any
 fundamental reason for today's rebound.*

 2009/10/9 ruzli...@gmail.com





 Weekend dulu El.
 Ngupi-ngupi, pijet, jalan2 sm keluarga/pacar..
 Have a nice weekend all..
  --

 *From: *It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com

 *Date: *Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:19:07 +0700

 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com

 *Subject: *Re: done ! Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9
 n Boyz





 *Is that all?*

 2009/10/9 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id




 tugas BANTENG KETATON untuk reboundkan BUMI sore ini DONE.
 dan DEAL permintaan kumendan boyz utk 2875 Bid udah kesampaian.


 ijo gak ijo pokoke rebound..  (kekekekek)

 selanjutnya NUNGGU petunjuk embah.


 regards,
 A9
 (banteng ketaton .! masih berbiji)


 --- Pada *Jum, 9/10/09, Aria Santoso ariasant...@gmail.com* menulis:


 Dari: Aria Santoso ariasant...@gmail.com
 Judul: Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz
 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Tanggal: Jumat, 9 Oktober, 2009, 2:53 PM

 Thanks Jendral A9!
 Target done.
 Pasukan siap dibubarkan...
 tinggal pasukan elite yg masih di lokasi pertempuran.

 artomoro9 wrote:
 
 
 
 
  DEAL...!
 
 
  regards,
  A9
  (banteng ketaton ! yang masih berbiji)
 
  --- Pada *Jum, 9/10/09, boyz® 
  /m457...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=m457...@gmail.com/*
 menulis:
 
 
  Dari: boyz® m457...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=m457...@gmail.com
 
  Judul: Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz
  Kepada: 
  obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com
  Tanggal: Jumat, 9 Oktober, 2009, 10:19 AM
 
 
 
  Wekz  jendral bikin ane tersipu malu nih,
  masa kopral dipanggil kumendan... :P
 
  mmm... perintah kumendan Aria S katanya 2875 kudu di kiri, jend.. :)
 
  Salam,
 
 
  2009/10/9 artomoro9 
  artomo...@yahoo.co.idhttp://mc/compose?to=artomo...@yahoo.co.id
  
  /mc/compose?to=artomo...@yahoo.co.idhttp://mc/compose?to=artomo...@yahoo.co.id
 
 
 
 
 
  siyap kumendan boyz...
 
  ni

Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz

2009-10-09 Terurut Topik boyz®
2009/10/9 boyz® m457...@gmail.com

 Wekz  jendral bikin ane tersipu malu nih,
 masa kopral dipanggil kumendan... :P

 mmm... perintah kumendan Aria S katanya 2875 kudu di kiri, jend.. :)

 Salam,



Excelent, jenderal...
benteng 2875 sudah di kiri.
Keep it to the closing bell.

Salam,


Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz

2009-10-09 Terurut Topik boyz®
Excelent !!!
Muach... ehehehe, ati-2 kena Kumis ane :P

Salam,


2009/10/9 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id





 DEAL...!


 regards,
 A9
 (banteng ketaton ! yang masih berbiji)

 --- Pada *Jum, 9/10/09, boyz® m457...@gmail.com* menulis:


 Dari: boyz® m457...@gmail.com
 Judul: Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz
 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Tanggal: Jumat, 9 Oktober, 2009, 10:19 AM



 Wekz  jendral bikin ane tersipu malu nih,
 masa kopral dipanggil kumendan... :P

 mmm... perintah kumendan Aria S katanya 2875 kudu di kiri, jend.. :)

 Salam,


 2009/10/9 artomoro9 
 artomo...@yahoo.co.idhttp://mc/compose?to=artomo...@yahoo.co.id
 




 siyap kumendan boyz...

 ni hari BUMI kudu rebound.

 ijo gak ijo pokoke BUMI rebound.


 regards,
 A9
 (banteng ketaton yg masih punya biji)


 Ada baiknya jendral memimpin mundur pasukan... jgn kabur sendirian..banyak
 fans anda khususnya newbie2 yg masih mengharapkan aba2 dari anda.. seperti
 ketika anda memimpin saat bullish...
 Mundur untuk menyerang kembali ?
 why not...
 boyz tolong kasih strategi apa yg ada di buku War Manual of Tsun Zu... kl
 perangnya di ibaratkan seperti situasi saham bumi skarang...
 thx





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Re: [ob] Buang antm beli bumi? @JT

2009-10-09 Terurut Topik boyz®
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Peter Alimin milis...@live.com wrote:

 Antm merah..cuci piring?



Ngusir penumpang doang kayaknya... Volume turun tipis.
Bro JT, cmiiw  share ur view pls...
Many thanks.

Salam,


Re: [ob] Buang antm beli bumi? @JT

2009-10-09 Terurut Topik boyz®
Many Thx Bro...
ANTM *potensi* jadi next 'playground' nih, Wajar aja kalo banyak yg mau
diusir. hehehe...
Tinggal nunggu keseriusan *sponsor*-nya deh untuk manggung.

Salam,



On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 2:51 PM, JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com wrote:


  ANTM  TINS Cuma Pause…., ngga ada pressure…  HOLD !



 *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
 obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *boyz®
 *Sent:* 09 Oktober 2009 14:34
 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [ob] Buang antm beli bumi? @JT




 On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Peter Alimin milis...@live.com wrote:

 Antm merah..cuci piring?



 Ngusir penumpang doang kayaknya... Volume turun tipis.
 Bro JT, cmiiw  share ur view pls...
 Many thanks.

 Salam,



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Re: [ob] Buang antm beli bumi? @JT

2009-10-09 Terurut Topik boyz®
Jenderal kyk Elaine aje nih,
Mo belanja pake nawar hehehe.

Tapi masih mending sih, nawarnya ga kebangeten.

Salam,


2009/10/9 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id




 nawar 2500 boleh gak broo..

 regards,
 A9
 disclaimerontheway




Re: done ! Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz

2009-10-09 Terurut Topik boyz®
Just did a good job?  He just did great job !
Congratz to General Artomoro...

And thanks to all involved in this show, yg terjun kelapangan maupun yg
nonton di pinggiran, pasukan elit, reguler bahkan pasukan cadangan yg belum
sempet terjun.
And great thanks to BOZZ yg hari ini bersedia 'mempertunjukkan' sedikit
kepiawaian strategy-nya untuk ditonton dan dianalisa oleh mereka2 yg watch
and take attention on BUMI movement.

@Elaine: d u think every move should inline with fundamental reason? i
thought that is for long run.

Salam,


2009/10/9 It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com



 *Cuma tanya saja. Art did a good job today. I wonder if there's any
 fundamental reason for today's rebound.*

 2009/10/9 ruzli...@gmail.com



 Weekend dulu El.
 Ngupi-ngupi, pijet, jalan2 sm keluarga/pacar..
 Have a nice weekend all..
 --
 *From: * It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com
 *Date: *Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:19:07 +0700
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: done ! Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to
 A9 n Boyz



 *Is that all?*

 2009/10/9 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id




 tugas BANTENG KETATON untuk reboundkan BUMI sore ini DONE.
 dan DEAL permintaan kumendan boyz utk 2875 Bid udah kesampaian.


 ijo gak ijo pokoke rebound..  (kekekekek)

 selanjutnya NUNGGU petunjuk embah.


 regards,
 A9
 (banteng ketaton .! masih berbiji)


 --- Pada *Jum, 9/10/09, Aria Santoso ariasant...@gmail.com* menulis:


 Dari: Aria Santoso ariasant...@gmail.com
 Judul: Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz
 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Tanggal: Jumat, 9 Oktober, 2009, 2:53 PM

 Thanks Jendral A9!
 Target done.
 Pasukan siap dibubarkan...
 tinggal pasukan elite yg masih di lokasi pertempuran.

 artomoro9 wrote:
 
 
 
 
  DEAL...!
 
 
  regards,
  A9
  (banteng ketaton ! yang masih berbiji)
 
  --- Pada *Jum, 9/10/09, boyz® 
  /m457...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=m457...@gmail.com/*
 menulis:
 
 
  Dari: boyz® m457...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=m457...@gmail.com
 
  Judul: Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz
  Kepada: 
  obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com
  Tanggal: Jumat, 9 Oktober, 2009, 10:19 AM
 
 
 
  Wekz  jendral bikin ane tersipu malu nih,
  masa kopral dipanggil kumendan... :P
 
  mmm... perintah kumendan Aria S katanya 2875 kudu di kiri, jend..
 :)
 
  Salam,
 
 
  2009/10/9 artomoro9 
  artomo...@yahoo.co.idhttp://mc/compose?to=artomo...@yahoo.co.id
  
  /mc/compose?to=artomo...@yahoo.co.idhttp://mc/compose?to=artomo...@yahoo.co.id
 
 
 
 
 
  siyap kumendan boyz...
 
  ni hari BUMI kudu rebound.
 
  ijo gak ijo pokoke BUMI rebound.
 
 
  regards,
  A9
  (banteng ketaton yg masih punya biji)
 
 
  Ada baiknya jendral memimpin mundur pasukan... jgn
  kabur sendirian..
  banyak fans anda khususnya newbie2 yg masih
  mengharapkan aba2 dari anda.. seperti ketika anda
  memimpin saat bullish...
  Mundur untuk menyerang kembali ?
  why not...
  boyz tolong kasih strategi apa yg ada di buku War
  Manual of Tsun Zu... kl perangnya di ibaratkan seperti
  situasi saham bumi skarang...
  thx
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
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Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz

2009-10-09 Terurut Topik boyz®
2009/10/9 Joe Martin milis.s4...@gmail.com


 Awas ada yg nagih lagi ntar Mr. Boyz... Diceritain kaya beginian.
 You know who kan?

 Wakakakaka



Ntar ane cari alesan buat ngeles lagi bro hehehe
Salam,


Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz

2009-10-09 Terurut Topik boyz®
2009/10/9 It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com



 *You guys are very compatible and harmonious. I think you should get
 married to each other lolz..*

 **[?][?]




Sweety...
Masa gitu aja kamu cemburuin sih?


hehe...
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Re: done ! Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz

2009-10-09 Terurut Topik boyz®
Nah, tuw udah dijelasin sama bro JT...

Jadi ...
inti pokok dan akar dari permasalahan semua ini adalah . Biji.
Wakakakak

Oops, sorry bad joke :p
If you follow the postings from last night, you should have a clue.

Salam,


On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:42 PM, JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com wrote:

  I told you, Biji* kalo diteken kekencengan bisa melejit…, that’s what
 happen to BUMI today, action-reaction things lah…… J

 *Biji Nangka

  *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
 obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *It's Elaine!
 *Sent:* 09 Oktober 2009 19:03
 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: done ! Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9
 n Boyz

 *He did a good job . Embah did great job as he warned about BUMI short
 days ago. Well, okay then anyone care to explain what happened to bumi
 today?*

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Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz

2009-10-09 Terurut Topik boyz®
Wakakak, awas lu ye bro... :P

Salam,


On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:31 PM, JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Anggar?? Kecil dong, hahaha

 Powered by TLKM BullBerry®

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 *Date: *Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:26:53 +
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz

 Maen anggar prof? Sama yg menang kira2? Wkwkwkk

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 *Date: *Fri, 9 Oct 2009 19:45:10 +0700
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *RE: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz



  You mean Boyz and Art ??..., wah mereka bisa main ‘pedang-pedangan’ tiap
 hari dong..…, hehehe



 *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
 obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *It's Elaine!
 *Sent:* 09 Oktober 2009 19:15
 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz





 *You guys are very compatible and harmonious. I think you should get
 married to each other lolz..*

  On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:27 AM, boyz® m457...@gmail.com wrote:






 To Jenderal Artomoro, keep ur spirit high my bro.

 *Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the
 deepest valleys.
 Look on them as your own beloved sons, and they will stand by you even unto
 death!*


 Salam,


  2009/10/9 elvira raven elvirara...@yahoo.com





 Ada baiknya jendral memimpin mundur pasukan... jgn kabur sendirian..

 banyak fans anda khususnya newbie2 yg masih mengharapkan aba2 dari anda..
 seperti ketika anda memimpin saat bullish...

 Mundur untuk menyerang kembali ?

 why not...

 boyz tolong kasih strategi apa yg ada di buku War Manual of Tsun Zu... kl
 perangnya di ibaratkan seperti situasi saham bumi skarang...

 thx







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Re: done ! Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz

2009-10-09 Terurut Topik boyz®
Wah, gak hebat kok. Cuma kebetulan aja lagi bener pak.

Salam,



2009/10/9 arisugiarto.sant...@gmail.com

 Pak Boyz
 Hebat!anda tahunya bumi bakal rebound dari mana?apa murni krn oversold atau
 ada faktor lain?kan price down dgn heavy volume.gimana cara deteksi hal
 serupa utk saham2 lain?

 Thx

 Sent from my BlackBerry®
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 *From: * boyz® m457...@gmail.com
 *Date: *Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:39:34 +0700
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: done ! Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9
 n Boyz



 Just did a good job?  He just did great job !
 Congratz to General Artomoro...

 And thanks to all involved in this show, yg terjun kelapangan maupun yg
 nonton di pinggiran, pasukan elit, reguler bahkan pasukan cadangan yg belum
 sempet terjun.
 And great thanks to BOZZ yg hari ini bersedia 'mempertunjukkan' sedikit
 kepiawaian strategy-nya untuk ditonton dan dianalisa oleh mereka2 yg watch
 and take attention on BUMI movement.

 @Elaine: d u think every move should inline with fundamental reason? i
 thought that is for long run.

 Salam,


 2009/10/9 It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com



 *Cuma tanya saja. Art did a good job today. I wonder if there's any
 fundamental reason for today's rebound.*

 2009/10/9 ruzli...@gmail.com



 Weekend dulu El.
 Ngupi-ngupi, pijet, jalan2 sm keluarga/pacar..
 Have a nice weekend all..
 --
 *From: * It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com
 *Date: *Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:19:07 +0700
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: done ! Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to
 A9 n Boyz



 *Is that all?*

 2009/10/9 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id




 tugas BANTENG KETATON untuk reboundkan BUMI sore ini DONE.
 dan DEAL permintaan kumendan boyz utk 2875 Bid udah kesampaian.


 ijo gak ijo pokoke rebound..  (kekekekek)

 selanjutnya NUNGGU petunjuk embah.


 regards,
 A9
 (banteng ketaton .! masih berbiji)


 --- Pada *Jum, 9/10/09, Aria Santoso ariasant...@gmail.com* menulis:


 Dari: Aria Santoso ariasant...@gmail.com
 Judul: Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz
 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Tanggal: Jumat, 9 Oktober, 2009, 2:53 PM

 Thanks Jendral A9!
 Target done.
 Pasukan siap dibubarkan...
 tinggal pasukan elite yg masih di lokasi pertempuran.

 artomoro9 wrote:
 
 
 
 
  DEAL...!
 
 
  regards,
  A9
  (banteng ketaton ! yang masih berbiji)
 
  --- Pada *Jum, 9/10/09, boyz® 
  /m457...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=m457...@gmail.com/*
 menulis:
 
 
  Dari: boyz® 
  m457...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=m457...@gmail.com
 
  Judul: Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz
  Kepada: 
  obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com
  Tanggal: Jumat, 9 Oktober, 2009, 10:19 AM
 
 
 
  Wekz  jendral bikin ane tersipu malu nih,
  masa kopral dipanggil kumendan... :P
 
  mmm... perintah kumendan Aria S katanya 2875 kudu di kiri, jend..
 :)
 
  Salam,
 
 
  2009/10/9 artomoro9 
  artomo...@yahoo.co.idhttp://mc/compose?to=artomo...@yahoo.co.id
  
  /mc/compose?to=artomo...@yahoo.co.idhttp://mc/compose?to=artomo...@yahoo.co.id
 
 
 
 
 
  siyap kumendan boyz...
 
  ni hari BUMI kudu rebound.
 
  ijo gak ijo pokoke BUMI rebound.
 
 
  regards,
  A9
  (banteng ketaton yg masih punya biji)
 
 
  Ada baiknya jendral memimpin mundur pasukan... jgn
  kabur sendirian..
  banyak fans anda khususnya newbie2 yg masih
  mengharapkan aba2 dari anda.. seperti ketika anda
  memimpin saat bullish...
  Mundur untuk menyerang kembali ?
  why not...
  boyz tolong kasih strategi apa yg ada di buku War
  Manual of Tsun Zu... kl perangnya di ibaratkan seperti
  situasi saham bumi skarang...
  thx
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
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Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday

2009-10-08 Terurut Topik boyz®
Udah masuk sasaran tembak, ya bro?

Salam,


On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:48 PM, JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com wrote:



  Daily - BUMI sdh OS.., tunggu mental balik kedalam BAND



Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday

2009-10-08 Terurut Topik boyz®
Setuju bro, masih speculative. Ini pertempuran 'value' bukan 'price'.
Spt kata mBah:

Ini situasi IDEAL untuk beraksinya para BD

 Pelaku pasar tidak punya PEGANGAN:



Ente bilang:

 tapi ane liat pressure relative tidak sekuat kemarin


Kalo ane ngelihat pressure relative tidak beda dari kemarin, alias relative
sama.
Yg membedakan adl hari ini perlawanan yg semakin sengit, dan pertahanan yg
semakin solid.
Di intraday chart yg u kirim, terlihat triple bottom.
Intepretasi ane, Level 2700-2725 dua kali mendapat kunjungan kembali.
(copet2  penumpang gelap 2X disuruh bubar).
And kalau ada yg perhatiin di running trade, di 30 menit terakhir si BOZZ
menugaskan pasukan elit-nya sebagai upaya terakhir untuk
merontokkan/menurunkan penumpang.
Maksud ane, di level itu terlihat teknik kantong-kiri kantong-kanan.
Jual 20RB, tampung 100RB... shocking-sell lagi sekian puluh ribu, sambil
tampung sekian ratus ribu.

Kesimpulan ane sih besok jenderal Arto disuruh memimpin serangan balik ke
utara.

*Padahal 2bulan kemarin, level itu yg mati-matian mo di jebol Jend. A9
(sempet jebol 2 point sih, tapi close diatas itu), sekarang malah jadi basis
pertahanan.
Hehehe mua'ap jendral ampoennn... :)*

Salam,


2009/10/8 JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com

 Meskipun ada perlawanan cukup kuat, tapi masih speculative Bro, hari ini
 hrg gagal tutup diatas level konfirmasi 2850, tapi ane liat pressure
 relative tidak sekuat kemarin.., so we still have to wait and see...

 Well, sebenernya sih turun naik 5-6 % sangat biasa terjadi, tapi ini BUMI
 Bung, semuanya jadi heboh, apalagi valuenya sampe 2T lebih Hehe



Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday

2009-10-08 Terurut Topik boyz®
Huahaha
Bener bro, bisa melejit.. apalagi biji yang mengkilat.
Maksud ane, biji nangka yg mengkilat. Hahaha...

Salam,


2009/10/8 JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com



  Berikut chart intra 1 minute.., keliatan tekanan kemarin jauh lebih
 dasyat dan ajek…, hari ini powernya melemah relative to kemarin…., chart yg
 paling bawah chart Daily, terlihat perlemahan momentum.., ada divergence dan
 selanjutnya DC…, mangkanya ngga salah kalo si Mbah ambil posisi SHORT…., dan
 itu alesan ane gak ikutan wkt hajar kanan…, ane coba main bawah aja, eh
 nyangkut juga…, asem…



 Anyway, rasanya akan segera mantul.., Jangan lupa, Biji kalo diteken
 kekencengan bisa melejit…, maksud gue biji nangka lo…, hehehe…,  oh ya,
 perlu diwaspadai jika rebound hanya retrace / tech Rebound saja  (will
 evaluate later, lah…)



 JT





Re: [ob] Special for EL

2009-10-08 Terurut Topik boyz®
DH?
Dean Hearwicker?

Ngga bro, dia ngga ngeshort,
dia lagi sekolah lagi, cari kebetan anak mahasiswi, hehehe

Salam,


On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Tom DS tom.ds.st...@gmail.com wrote:



 *EL, just curious..*
 *Are you work with DH?*
 **
 *Hmm.. If DH starts to short BUMI, that would be more dangerous than these
 2 days.*
 **
 **
 *T.o.m*


 


Re: [ob] Special for EL

2009-10-08 Terurut Topik boyz®
Oops, sorry bad joke :P

sekarang serius mode deh...
Start to short BUMI? ga ketinggalan? kalo mo nge-short kemarin2 lah bareng
mBah.
Kalo baru mo start to short skrg risk-reward nya brp?
ya terserah sih... hehehe...

Salam,


On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 10:44 PM, boyz® m457...@gmail.com wrote:

 DH?
 Dean Hearwicker?

 Ngga bro, dia ngga ngeshort,
 dia lagi sekolah lagi, cari kebetan anak mahasiswi, hehehe

 Salam,



 On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Tom DS tom.ds.st...@gmail.com wrote:



 *EL, just curious..*
 *Are you work with DH?*
 **
 *Hmm.. If DH starts to short BUMI, that would be more dangerous than
 these 2 days.*
 **
 **
 *T.o.m*


 





Re: [ob] Special for EL

2009-10-08 Terurut Topik boyz®
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 10:56 PM, inpestorpembela...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ada indikasi apa/dari mana P Tom ?
 Pls share

 Tks



terkirim ke japri, ane forward ke-milis.

Salam,


Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz

2009-10-08 Terurut Topik boyz®
mmm...

*In the practical art of war, the best thing of all is to take the enemy's
 country whole and intact; to shatter and destroy it is not so good.*

Kalau BOZZ mau ambil/take over barang2 lawan, ya direbut aja, ga perlu
dibumi hanguskan.


buat rekan2 OB:

 *He who wishes to fight must first count the cost.*

Sebelum masuk ke posisi, selalu hitung risk-reward nya.

*The good fighters of old first put themselves beyond the possibility of
 defeat, and then waited for an opportunity of defeating the enemy.*

Most important rule of Money Management, mempertahankan modal adalah
prioritas nomor 1. Mencari profit adalah prioritas berikutnya.


To Jenderal Artomoro, keep ur spirit high my bro.

 *Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the
 deepest valleys.
 Look on them as your own beloved sons, and they will stand by you even unto
 death!*


Salam,



2009/10/9 elvira raven elvirara...@yahoo.com



  Ada baiknya jendral memimpin mundur pasukan... jgn kabur sendirian..banyak
 fans anda khususnya newbie2 yg masih mengharapkan aba2 dari anda.. seperti
 ketika anda memimpin saat bullish...
 Mundur untuk menyerang kembali ?
 why not...
 boyz tolong kasih strategi apa yg ada di buku War Manual of Tsun Zu... kl
 perangnya di ibaratkan seperti situasi saham bumi skarang...
 thx




Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday

2009-10-08 Terurut Topik boyz®
2009/10/9 Aria Santoso ariasant...@gmail.com

 pak JT  pak Boyz: biji nangka
 Jend A9: kalo gak balikin ke 3050, biji kismis aja.  :)
 09okt'09: *kalo 2875 gak ke kiri,* saya ijin kabur dulu.



Noted, bro...

Salam,


Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz

2009-10-08 Terurut Topik boyz®
Wekz  jendral bikin ane tersipu malu nih,
masa kopral dipanggil kumendan... :P

mmm... perintah kumendan Aria S katanya 2875 kudu di kiri, jend.. :)

Salam,


2009/10/9 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id




 siyap kumendan boyz...

 ni hari BUMI kudu rebound.

 ijo gak ijo pokoke BUMI rebound.


 regards,
 A9
 (banteng ketaton yg masih punya biji)


 Ada baiknya jendral memimpin mundur pasukan... jgn kabur sendirian..banyak
 fans anda khususnya newbie2 yg masih mengharapkan aba2 dari anda.. seperti
 ketika anda memimpin saat bullish...
 Mundur untuk menyerang kembali ?
 why not...
 boyz tolong kasih strategi apa yg ada di buku War Manual of Tsun Zu... kl
 perangnya di ibaratkan seperti situasi saham bumi skarang...
 thx





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Re: [ob] Re: Milis today tdk bs masuk inbox

2009-10-07 Terurut Topik boyz®
Wah, Mr.Hmin tuwh yg ngitungin statistik-nya. Hehehe

Kalau pakai metode 'pembuktian terbalik', kira-kira 93% lah...
Ya kan, mr.Hmin? cmiiw.

Salam,


2009/10/7 inpestorpembela...@gmail.com



 Hehehe bener bro. Tal ratu gak ada lawan. So far accuracynya berapa persen
 bro ?

 Sent from my BlackBerry®
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 *From: * m4573rs m457...@gmail.com
 *Date: *Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:11:34 -
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *[ob] Re: Milis today tdk bs masuk inbox



 Kalo ane hari ini cuma terima 3 message dari OB.
 Untung masih tetep bisa ngikutin OB dari web Yahoogroups.
 Kalo ga, wah... bisa kayak bro JT, biji ane mengkerut. Hehehe...

 TAL mengkali. Tau ah, puyeng.
 Tetep TAL dari Ratu SIMA yg paling top markotop.
 Ck ck ck... Salut.

 Salam,

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 jsx_consultant
 jsx-consult...@... wrote:
 
  - Sudah ada 3 orang complain yg email nya menggunakan yahoo.com.sg
  tidak menerima posting dari Milis OB.
 
  Yg pake email Singapore dikerjain karena duitnya banyak... hehehe...
 
  - Lalu ada complain dari pengguna internet lewat hp dll.
 
  Sepertinya ini TAL BUMI ?.
 
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 Edie ediesiswoyo@ wrote:
  
   Ada yg tau kenapa?hari ini inboxku kosong.email milis tdk bs masuk
  
 

   



Re: [ob] Re: Milis today tdk bs masuk inbox

2009-10-07 Terurut Topik boyz®
Nah... ini kayaknya udah mulai normal nih masalah di email @yahoo.com.sg,
tadi ane rubah ke alternate email (di Yahoogroups - Edit Membership).
lalu di: *Choose the email address that you would like group messages sent
to.*
di rubah dari default email ke alternative email.
trus dibalikin lagi ke email semula (yg belakangnya @yahoo.com.sg)

Mudah-mudahan kaga ada masalah lagi deh.

Salam,


2009/10/7 boyz® m457...@yahoo.com.sg

 Wah, Mr.Hmin tuwh yg ngitungin statistik-nya. Hehehe

 Kalau pakai metode 'pembuktian terbalik', kira-kira 93% lah...
 Ya kan, mr.Hmin? cmiiw.

 Salam,


 2009/10/7 inpestorpembela...@gmail.com



 Hehehe bener bro. Tal ratu gak ada lawan. So far accuracynya berapa persen
 bro ?

 Sent from my BlackBerry®
 powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
 --
 *From: * m4573rs m457...@gmail.com
 *Date: *Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:11:34 -
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *[ob] Re: Milis today tdk bs masuk inbox



 Kalo ane hari ini cuma terima 3 message dari OB.
 Untung masih tetep bisa ngikutin OB dari web Yahoogroups.
 Kalo ga, wah... bisa kayak bro JT, biji ane mengkerut. Hehehe...

 TAL mengkali. Tau ah, puyeng.
 Tetep TAL dari Ratu SIMA yg paling top markotop.
 Ck ck ck... Salut.

 Salam,

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 jsx_consultant
 jsx-consult...@... wrote:
 
  - Sudah ada 3 orang complain yg email nya menggunakan yahoo.com.sg
  tidak menerima posting dari Milis OB.
 
  Yg pake email Singapore dikerjain karena duitnya banyak... hehehe...
 
  - Lalu ada complain dari pengguna internet lewat hp dll.
 
  Sepertinya ini TAL BUMI ?.
 
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 Edie ediesiswoyo@ wrote:
  
   Ada yg tau kenapa?hari ini inboxku kosong.email milis tdk bs masuk
  
 

   





Re: [ob] Re: Akuisisi BUMI Tak Akan Jadi Polemik

2009-10-07 Terurut Topik boyz®
Kenapa jadi ga enak, kang?  Sante aje... analisa ente termasuk yg paling
berbobot disini.
Keep posting ya kang...

@Mr.Armando Anthony
Barangkali Master Armando udah ga sibuk?
Kalo ga keberatan, pls share from your view. Many thanks...

Salam,



2009/10/8 Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.com



 CIC sih ya aman, 12 % per tahun plus bunga 7 % dikapitalisasikan saat
 bullet payment, selama EBITDA masih diatas angka beban bunga ya gak masalah
 lah. in case of bangkrut?. ga mungkin bangkrutlah. tp gn lupa debt creditor
 diutamakan drpd pemegang hak klaim ekuitas. dan particularly dalam hal ini
 KPC dan Arutmin sudah dalam klausul jaminan. mslh jaminan ini sepele? gak
 juga. pada titik kemungkinan terburuk, kalo ada super-krisis sebelun 2013
 (meski unlikley) inget dulu Adaro bisa lepas dari Grup Tanoto krn dulu dia
 dijaminkan ke CS dan akhirnya dilelang dan yg berhasil beli lelangannya
 adalah Grup Soeryadjaja en Garibaldi.
  yg jd masalah shareholder, profitabilitasnya kegerus dan sebagian punya
 barang di angka dimana pembeliannya ada di level cashflow yg seharusnya
 tidak tergerus oleh pembuangan kas tidak perlu.

 Punten Pak, dgn segala respek kepada rekan-rekan OB-ers dan Embah di forum
 ini Saya gak maksud ada kepentingan apapun cari barang ato apalah, yap saya
 ada barang masih, bukan barang saya, barang employer saya. tp konteks post
 saya bukan itu ; i just want them (BUMI) to do the most fair and prudent dec
 ision on behalf of equity owner. dan mengajak semua investor melihatnya dr
 sisi bisnis BUMI krn yg bisa saya share ya dari aspek itu. dgn sedikit
 harapan opini kolektif ini akan Amplify dan sampe ke manajemen BUMI. minta
 maaf deh kalo jadinya terkesan tendensius dan vested-interest., but i
 despise analyst that throws petty argument publicly that can drive away
 people out of their sane-check investing mental-note. thats against our code
 of conduct and ethical code.

 why can i say so? gak usah pake bongkar2an model pro-forma dan
 rekonstruksi valuasi deh, simple equation ukuran relatif antar emiten coal
 besar aja pake angka H1 spy smua ngeh.

 untuk simplicity-sake biar semua bisa kita akan pake angka H1 jadi
 annualised., dan tidak pake angka forward forecast (anggap di level harga
 skrg semua emiten sudah implied forward valuenya, yg akan di cek adalah
 relatifitas present worth nya)

 agar perbandingannya seimbang di size yg setara, yg kita bandingkan scr
 relatif adalah BUMI, ADRO, ITMG dan PTBA


 this is some simple and basic corporate finance equation to refresh ur
 perception, untuk induce awareness kita sbg shareholder ama kebijakan
 strategi emiten2 coal ajah, supaya bisa sama-sama ngitung dan nge cek saya
 elaborasi detail sama rumus dan akun2nya ;
 * *
 *Net Cash Per Share / Current Price Level :*

 Bacanya angka2 ini adlaah The Larger The Better untuk net cash per share
 yield (untuk represent balance sheet en struktur gearing),  smntra untuk FCF
 yield (utk represent owner earning) diposisikan Vis A Vis Instrumen Riskfree
 atau time deposit.

 dan supaya diingat ini adalah posisi Juni 09, jadi untuk BUMI belon implied
 efek tambahan pressure balance dr CIC dan usage utk pelunasan akuisisi. yg
 kira2 akan nambah long term debt 500 Jt USD an dan akan nambah Kas dan
 setara Kas 250 Jt USD atau setara pengurangan Net Cash 250 Juta USD kira2 dr
 posisi 1H 09.

 harga penutupan sore ini :

 BUMI = Rp 2875
 PTBA = Rp 14400
 ADRO = Rp 1410
 ITMG = Rp 24000

 *BUMI*

 Kas dan Setara Kas serta efek tersedia dijual Per Juni 2009 : USD
 403.438.613

 Long Term Debt Per Juni 2009 : USD 364.147.233

 Net Cash : 39.291.380

 Jumlah Saham Beredar : 19,2 Bio
 Asumsi $ 1 = Rp 9800

 Net Cash Per Share : Rp 20

 *Net Cash Per Share / Current Price : 0.7 %*


 *PTBA *

 Kas dan Setara Kas Per 1H 09 : 2.456.659 Juta Rupiah

 Long Term Debt 1H 09 : 0

 Net Cash : 2.456.659 Juta Rupiah

 Saham Beredar : 2.304 Mn

 Net Cash Per Share :  Rp 1066

 (setelah penjualan ke TATA untuk tiring hutang ke credit suisse, posisi Net
 CasH BUMI sebenernya bagus banget sebelum dirusak sama akuisisi Herald,
 Pinjaman CIC dan akuisisi early 3 aset kemaren ini0

 *Net Cash Per Share / Current Price : 7.4 %*
 **
 **
 *ADRO*
 **
  Kas dan Setara Kas Per Juni 2009 : 4.207.484 Juta Rupiah

 Long Term Debt Per Juni 2009 : 8.508.450 Juta Rupiah

 Net Cash : - 4.300.966 Juta Rupiah

 Jumlah Saham Beredar : 31,9Bio


 Net Cash Per Share : - Rp 134

 *Net Cash Per Share / Current Price : -9.54 %*

 (Masih Net Debt tp trennya jauh membaik dr Pre-IPO yg masih Mezzanine-Built
 Balance, management has done a quite good deleveraging on behalf of equity
 shareholders)

 *ITMG*
 **

 Kas dan Setara Kas serta efek tersedia dijual Per Juni 2009 : USD 265.556
 Ribu

 Long Term Debt Per Juni 2009 : USD 2020 Ribu

 Net Cash : USD 245.556 Ribu

 Jumlah Saham Beredar : 1,13Bio
 Asumsi $ 1 = Rp 9800

 Net Cash Per Share : Rp 2130

 *Net Cash Per Share / Current Price : 8.87 %*
 **
 **
 **
 *FCF Per Share / Current Price :*
 **
 

Re: [ob] Re: Akuisisi BUMI Tak Akan Jadi Polemik

2009-10-07 Terurut Topik boyz®
2009/10/8 kang_ocoy_maen_saham disclosure@gmail.com

 gak pak, cmn sementara aja stop bahas BUMI dulu sayanya., sampe polemik
 pinjaman CIC dan penggunaannya kelar aje. highhlight dr saya untuk BUMI
 akhir2 ini jd kebanyakan, jd smntra gantian saya nyimak dulu highlight yg
 laen.

 Ya Solider sama temen2 yg ada posisi di BUMI pak. biar tetep Damay dan
 Santay.. *tone saya soalnya jd protes mulu* soal manajemen BUMI. haha



Kayaknya itu keluar dari 'hati yang paling dalam', kang...
Hehehe

GBU.


Re: [ob] PANIC BUYING atau SELL ON STRENGHT ?

2009-10-07 Terurut Topik boyz®
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 5:45 AM, elvira raven elvirara...@yahoo.com wrote:



  Eforia sesaat akan terjadi pada pagi hari...

 apa sebaiknya yg kita lakukan ?





Pagi hari?
Sebaiknya sarapan dulu :)

Salam,


Re: Bls: [ob] Re: BUMI support 2675

2009-10-07 Terurut Topik boyz®
Hehehe... Bisa coplot yah? :p

Makanya, kan dari kemarin2 mBah udah kasih Warning, Lalat Muda disuruh
minggir.
Kudu hati-2 lah, kalo mBah udah kasih warning.
and jgn lupa Money Management to ensure kelangsungan hidup portofolio kita.

http://www.mail-archive.com/obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com/msg172117.html

(bukan niat nyebar virus 'aitotyu', cuma ngingetin aja kok)

Salam,


2009/10/8 Syat dahsyat...@yahoo.com



 Wah ane kalau cl segitu wuis coplot bijiku Jend ! Sekarang jadi pngamat
 dulu. Momentum Munas dah lewat, fa masih doubtful, ta' nunggu pakar2 ta dulu
 ngomong lah ...

 Gud lak and pisss dulu

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 *From: * artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id
 *Date: *Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:41:30 +0800 (SGT)
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Bls: [ob] Re: BUMI support 2675





 ane cutloss kalo 2575 mbah.

 regards,
 A9
 disclaimer of.

 --- Pada *Kam, 8/10/09, jsx_consultant 
 jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id*menulis:


 Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id
 Judul: [ob] Re: BUMI support 2675
 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Tanggal: Kamis, 8 Oktober, 2009, 10:31 AM

 BUMI rebound di 2700, saat ini 2775

 Cut loss 2675

 Grafiknya di REFRESH:

 http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbumizz.png


 --- In 
 obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com,
 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote:
 
  BUMI support 2675
 
 
  http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbumizz.png
 
  2675 bisa cuman Support sementara doang
 




 

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Re: [ob] The Nightmare of Sang Raksasa - Hyperinflation

2009-10-06 Terurut Topik boyz®
2009/10/6 It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com



 *Devaluating the USD could trigger a war with China and the rest of the
 world. What will happen if your foreign reserve (which in USD) is devaluated
 to 1/10?

 I'd say it's better for the Fed to stop the stimulus program and begin
 raising int. rate to endorse saving and limit the circulation of money. What
 will happen next would be major carry trade unwind and prolonged recession.

 Recession is not something to be afraid of, it's naturally part of the
 economic cycle after a bubble economy. If they're forcing to avoid recession
 by 'patching' with another bubble (either by cutting rates or 'creating'
 money), they might end up destroying the whole economy itself.

 Bernanke should increase the int rate up to 10%. In the 1973,
 hyperinflation also existed in the US, thanks to Arab oil embago. A treasury
 guy named Paul Volcker made a huge step by increasing int. rate to 20%.

 Unless, there is a dirty plan coming..
 *




Dirty Plan?
can u be specific? hidden agenda? secret scenario?
Pls share


Re: [ob] Re: Boss BEI emang mantap

2009-10-06 Terurut Topik boyz®
Buat trader, fine-tuning your radar... :)

Salam,



2009/10/6 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id

 Lalat muda kan maennya saham yg POPULER, makanya embah bilang
 lebih baik menyingkir...

 BD naekin IHSG sambil ngeshort saham POPULER...

 Sekarang tinggal tunggu EXECUTIVE DECISION:
 - MAU NAEKIN saham AB engga ?.

 Kalo engga tinggal dengerin lagu GUBRAK kiriman pak Edwin.. hehehe...


 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, charles_3983 charles_3...@...
 wrote:
 
  IDX ijo 2%
  tapi coba perhatikan...
 
  5 top freq semua merah
  5 top volume semua merah
 
  Feeling ane biar IDX ijo tebel hari ini, trader banyak yang kena mules2
 :))
 




 

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Re: [ob] Fidelity’s Bolton Predicts ‘Multi-Year ’ Bull Market in Equities

2009-10-06 Terurut Topik boyz®
Malah ada yg ngomong *10 Years Bullish Market*, waktu DJI minus di minggu
kemarin.
Dia bilang Dow will 'Double for Sure', hehehe PD banget.
Neil Hennessy, chief investment officer of the Hennessey Funds. Ada yg tau
his profile? Gimana kehandalan prediksi-nya selama ini?
Elaine barangkali tau?

Salam,


On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 6:26 PM, victor_sperandeo victor_speran...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

 Fidelity's Bolton Predicts `Multi-Year' Bull Market in Equities
 By Bernard Lo and Michael Patterson

 Oct. 6 (Bloomberg) -- Sustainable economic growth and low interest rates
 worldwide will spur a multi-year bull market in equities, led by
 developing nations, said Fidelity International's Anthony Bolton.

 Low growth means low interest rates, and actually that's one of the best
 environments for stock-market investing, Bolton, president of investments
 at Fidelity International, which oversees about $141 billion, said in an
 interview on Bloomberg Television in Hong Kong. Anything that can show
 growth in this low-growth environment is going to be bid up by investors.
 It's very pro the emerging-market world versus the developed world.

 Central banks in the U.S. and Europe will keep interest rates low for
 another year even as Australia's central bank unexpectedly raised rates
 today, Bolton said. He's particularly optimistic on Chinese stocks because
 policy makers will foster sustained economic growth without fueling
 inflation.

 Bolton's view contrasts with New York University Professor Nouriel Roubini
 and Elliott Wave International Inc.'s Robert Prechter who have said that
 shares are poised to retreat. Pacific Investment Management Co.'s Bill Gross
 says low economic growth will restrict annual stock returns to 5 percent.

 The MSCI Emerging Markets Index has climbed 62 percent this year on
 expectations that developing nations will lead a recovery in the global
 economy from its first recession since World War II. Emerging-market
 economies may grow 6 percent next year, compared with 1.8 percent growth in
 advanced nations, according to HSBC Holdings Plc.

 March Rally

 Bolton, Fidelity's first fund manager in Europe, said on March 11 that the
 U.K. equity market was at or near its lowest point. The nation's benchmark
 FTSE 100 Index, which tumbled 31 percent in 2008, bottomed on March 3 and
 has since rallied 44 percent. Bolton dumped his holdings of
 telecommunications stocks in the first quarter of 2000 at the height of the
 industry's bull market.

 Bolton's Special Situations Fund beat the FTSE All-Share Index on an annual
 basis by 6 percentage points from 1979 through 2007, according to Fidelity.
 Fidelity International is the London-based affiliate of Fidelity
 Investments, the world's largest mutual-fund company.





 

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Re: +28 Re: Bls: [ob] 2500. - Warning buat Lalat muda..

2009-10-06 Terurut Topik boyz®
Jadi inget posting mBah tentang *Cliff Hanger*,

Bermain DIKETINGGIAN itu sangat berbahaya kecuali bagi
 buat para CLIFF HANGER (pemanjat tebing profesional).

 DiKETINGGIAN, udara sangat TIPIS dan ini menjadi TEMPAT
 ACROBATIC si BOZZ.

 Contoh:
 - Hari ini UNVR naik +10% dan kemudian turun -10%, ini
   menunjukan siBOZZ dengan mudah MEMPERMAINKAN PASAR !!!.
 - Pagi tadi, IHSG dibikin plus pake TLKM,ASII,PGAS,UNV TAPI
   saham yang TURUN sangat banyak.. *Jadi IHSG tidak mewakili
   potensi GAIN, tapi cuman mewakili MANUVER pelaku besar*...



Jadi, mungkin maksud mBah bukan benar2 untuk mengusir pemain baru.
Tapi untuk lebih berhati-2, kalaupun mau masuk ke satu posisi, siapkan
cutloss yg ketat. Kehebatan penguasaan teknik (FA or TA) tidak menjamin
keselamatan modal kita, Money management lah yang menentukan bertahan atau
tidak-nya kita di 'dunia persilatan' ini.
Kalau perlu jangan sungkan-2, minta bimbingan dan pendapat senior yg sudah
terbukti survive melewati beberapa crash besar. seperti mBah, Elaine, JT,
Tasrul, Juliantika. Kalau di milis sebelah ada Eyang, Alfatih, Jhon Veter,
dll... (mohon maaf kalau ada yg lupa disebutkan)


Salam,


2009/10/6 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id



 KOREKSI:

 Coba lihat berapa BANYAK saham yg diturunkan dari HIGHnya disaat
 IHSG naik tinggi +47

 - http://www.obrolanbandar.com/ZZIVCLHI.TXT

 Sebagai pembanding: Coba lihat berapa BANYAK saham yg dinaikan
 dari LOWnya disaat IHSG naik tinggi +47.

 - http://www.obrolanbandar.com/ZZIVCLLO.TXT

 Itulah alasan embah bilang: Lalat Muda sebaiknya MENYINGKIR !!!

 Saat ini bursa hanya COCOK untuk Lalat Tua yg berpengalaman
 karena kenaikan IHSG dipakai untuk MENJEBAK Lalat Muda !!!




Re: [ob] Medc..ati2 guyuran!

2009-10-06 Terurut Topik boyz®
2009/10/6 Bozz Traders powerman.tra...@gmail.com

 *Ente nggak usah tanya Prof soal size pasti GEDE volumenya hehehe canda
 bos…*



Wah, U udah pernah liat size 'ntu'-nya prof JT?
We ...



canda juga.. :)

Salam,


Re: [ob] Gold ...

2009-10-06 Terurut Topik boyz®
Highest-nya gold 1033.9 ya? kalo ga salah.

Salam

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:09 PM, CUMI.JK (Buy, TP 5000)
cumie...@gmail.comwrote:

 ini mana yang bener:
 - arab, china, rusia, perancis ketauan main belakang mau gantiin
 dollar buat perdagangan minyak. yg bakal dipake adalah a basket of
 currency + gold
 - inflasi tinggi segera tiba

 akibatnya dollar jatuh, komo dan emas naik.

 btw, gold reached new high yah?




Re: Bls: [ob] mari hijau kan BUMI....!!!

2009-10-05 Terurut Topik boyz®
2009/10/5 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id


 permisi..
 yang punya BUMI 3150 minggir dulu yaa, ane mau lewat..



Buldozer Om Arto kurang tenaga kayaknya nih...
Ati-ati yg buka lapak, apa lagi yg di pinggir trotoar 3125-3100, ntar
dagangannya gusur di tramtib.
Hehehe...

Nakut2in.com

Salam,


[ob] test... cuekin ajah

2009-10-05 Terurut Topik boyz®
test.. check sound  pls ignore


Re: [ob] Re: BUMI Page ini (Bill William)

2009-10-05 Terurut Topik boyz®
Ada 12 file gambar,
http://www.4shared.com/dir/4577197/d90c3f57/sharing.html
*Pass:* embahganteng

Untuk formula di metastock dari indikator spt: Alligator, AO, AC, or Expert
Advisor-nya mungkin ada yg bisa sharing?
Soalnya saya udah agak2 lupa pakai metastock.

Salam,


2009/10/5 Bozz Traders powerman.tra...@gmail.com



  *Kita tunggu nih janjinya Pak Boyz nanti malam*

 * *



Re: Bls: [ob] Re: BUMI Page ini (Bill William)

2009-10-05 Terurut Topik boyz®
Sama-2 bro... cuma modal copy paste aja kok. Hehehe...

Baru aja ane mo tanyain volume analysis-nya, karena terlihat volume kurang
meyakinkan.
tapi karena ente bilang belum ada momentum, ya ga jadi nanya deh. Hehehe..

Salam,


2009/10/5 JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com



  Setuju dgn komentar si Expert.., per hari ini memang belum ada upside
 momentum, that’s why tadi saya bilang mending BNBR, karena meskipun secara
 keseluruhan pola BUMI dan BNBR mirip-mirip, tapi BNBR sdh ada momentum…,
 well mungkin aja dalam satu dua hari ini momentum bumi baru nongol, so kalau
 saya sih masih menunggu, mungkin nanti telat, but that’s ok yg penting kita
 sdh firm arah angin bertiup kemana…, J



 Thank for sharing it, Bro..



 JT



 *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
 obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *boyz®
 *Sent:* 05 Oktober 2009 19:59
 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: Bls: [ob] Re: BUMI Page ini (Bill William)





 Komentar berdasarkan Expert Advisor keluaran Profitunity Trading System di
 DAILY chart:

 BUMI (BUMI)
 Monday, October 05, 2009

Alligator:  Price is in the alligator's mouth!
Zone:  Grey Zone
Awesome Oscillator (AO):  Decreasing
Accelerator (AC):  Increasing

 Open:  3,050.00
 High:  3,150.00
 Low:   3,025.00
 Close: 3,150.00
 Alligator Jaw: 2,975.92
 Alligator Teeth:   3,146.70
 Alligator Lips:3,207.78

 Close is Inside the Alligator which means that the market is near to being
 balanced and the price might move in either direction.
 The AO is Decreasing (Red AO bar) which means that the momentum is
 downward.
 The AC is Increasing (Green AC bar) which means that the downward momentum
 is slowing.  Since the AO is Red and the AC is Green, the Price Bar should
 be Gray or Black.
 This is an ambiguous area, so be patient until the market gives a better
 reason for going either up or down.  This is a dull market: remember that
 the biggest moves originate from dull markets.


 Kesimpulan: masih di Grey Area (daerah netral), Masih disuruh nunggu
 pergerakan selanjutnya.

 IMO, karena system ini adalah metode Trend Following, jadi memang masih
 agak telat.
 mmm, anyway, ane udah lama ga pake and barangkali skrg udah ada yg
 memodifikasi-nya shg lebih canggih.
 And juga, barangkali udah ada yg optimized di Intraday Chart?
 Barangkali bisa lebih detail apakah lebih bagus di 5Menit, 15menit, 30menit
 chart.

 Salam,

  2009/10/5 EdwinKdr edwin...@yahoo.com



  *--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@...
 wrote:*
 

  Sama dong... hehehe...
 
  Harusnya kita cari manual expert system ini, jadi jelas
  pemakaiannya:
  - Misal warna hijau garis artinya apa ?
  - Warna hijau zone artinya apa ? dll
 
  Ada yg punya manualnya engga ?.
 
 



 Kalo  membaca Praktal kiriman Embah :

 http://www.trader2000.com/Elliott%20Wave%20Fractals.htm

 Yg saya ngerti..pokoqnya kalo membentuk V(Candle Konfirm), mulai Wave baru
 Kalo Sinyal Praktal turun, membentuk Wave koreksi [image: :-/]

 Bener gak ya mbah [image: :-B]

 Mengambil Link kiriman Pak Boyz tadi :

 Teori Financial Chaos: Ilmu Back to the 
 NATUREhttp://www.mail-archive.com/obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com/msg10592.html


 *ia menekankan pada penggunaan metoda Fractal dan Elliot wave sebagai
 model yang lebih cocok dengan sistem Financial yang bersifat
 Chaotic atau ALAMIAH.

 Disini Bill William menggunakan metoda Fractal formasi V.
 Jika kita teliti lebih lanjut model Fractal V mirip formasi STAR, DOJI,
 HAMMER, HANGING MAN pada metoda Candlestick. Perbedaannya
 Fractal V mensaratkan perlunya 5 bar harga. Disamping itu Bill William
 menemukan bahwa fractal V bisa untuk menentukan Elliot wave counting.*

 Kalo melihat penyerbuan Embah pagi2 dan gebrakan maut Jendral A9 berikutnya
 hari ini
 Plus target Papa Loreng @3.800 ?

 Kira2 kalo BUMI digambar spt ini boleh gak ya

 BUMI Daily 
 Planhttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_2aKqvFC3Mmk/SsnL69ZVb4I/BAE/KjLI-MyQqB4/s1600-h/BUMI+-+Daily+Plan.PNG
 [image: ;)]

 Gabungan sinyal MACD Histogram Turun, dengan Candle Reversal kemudian
 dinomori
 pas-nya kira2 dimana ?

 Cuman posisi Lingkaran Orange ini, apa maksudnya BD Ngeshort ya mbah ?
 kemudian cover back untuk Long ? takut ketabrak keretanya Jendral A9 [image:
 :))]




 *--- In 
 obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://../../../../post?postID=FmfhPW5wRFuHheB64r3JG-76sz22fNV0tNBdv29WPHpRfAwlWzdzF7mmZbZuaT_sKtlycpyuAOcfrXgE8uizonvrYKkuSdZEpQ,
 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@...
 wrote:*
 
  14:43
 
  BUMI 3150, IHSG -3
 
  Black Diamond yg diatas adalah minor subwave reversal yg sudah
  patah, Black Diamond dibawah adalah UPPER WAVE degree..
 
  ZONE sudah jadi LONG HIJAU lihat gambar ZONE dibagian bawah:
 
  Kata si expert:
  - *Yang engga punya barang, ini saat bagus untuk bikin long position,
  gunakan juga signal beli dengan CARA LAIN.*
 
  http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbumizz.png



  CMIIW


 Tks

 *Regards

Re: Bls: [ob] Re: BUMI Page ini (Bill William)

2009-10-05 Terurut Topik boyz®
IMO, Black Diamond-nya tetep ga bisa berdiri sendiri untuk jadi patokan.
Apalagi untuk tik-tok. Ane udah pernah nyobain. Coba deh u pakai bbrp waktu,
nanti u akan lihat, kadang-2 Black Diamond-nya bisa hilang.

Contoh:
misal saat ini ada Black Diamond dibawah price saham ABCD, lalu dia turun
lagi, di next day (or next candle, kalo di intraday chart, tuh Black Diamond
bisa hilang).
Nah kalo misal, pas ada Black Diamond di bawah harga, abis itu langsung kita
borong tuh saham, eh begitu keluar next candle, Black Diamond-nya hilang...
apa kaga keder. hehehe...

Cobain ndiri deh. :)

Salam



2009/10/5 ruzli...@gmail.com



 Black Diamond nya boleh juga tuh, apalagi pakai yg real time...
 Tektok abis...
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 *Date: *Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:07:27 +
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: Bls: [ob] Re: BUMI Page ini (Bill William)



 Gua dah matiin laptop..., jadi nanya, soale penasaran

 Sip.., Kommentarnya Cakep.., in line dgn yg ane liat..., boleh juga nih
 system.., hehe

 JT



Re: Bls: [ob] Re: BUMI Page ini (Bill William)

2009-10-05 Terurut Topik boyz®
Kalo digabung (dimodified) sama volume analysis, makin optimal kali tu,
bro...
Rumus nya dikunci sih... tapi kayaknya dulu ane pernah lihat ada yg bisa
bikin rumus-nya di Metastock. Apakah di crack Passwordnya, atau di
Rekonstriksi, ane ga paham dah.

Tapi kalau dipakai di IDX, tetep cuma bisa searah (long position) doang.
So... system ini (karena trend following) cuma optimal kalo market lagi
Bullish aja.

Salam


2009/10/5 JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com

 Itu die.., hehe..



Re: Bls: [ob] Re: BUMI Page ini (Bill William)

2009-10-05 Terurut Topik boyz®
Soalnya, ane dulu pernah kejadian gitu. Tiba-tiba Black Diamond-nya hilang.
Padahal ane inget banget tadinya ada Black Diamond.

Saking penasarannya waktu itu, ane delete data terakhir yg dimasukin (biar
candle terakhir-nya hilang. kayak UNDO gituh).
Eh bener tuh Black Diamond-nya nongol lagi.
Lalu, ane masukin lagi data terakhir yg tadi didelete.
Black Diamond-nya hilang lagi ... :P

Salam,


2009/10/5 boyz® m457...@yahoo.com.sg

 IMO, Black Diamond-nya tetep ga bisa berdiri sendiri untuk jadi patokan.
 Apalagi untuk tik-tok. Ane udah pernah nyobain. Coba deh u pakai bbrp
 waktu, nanti u akan lihat, kadang-2 Black Diamond-nya bisa hilang.

 Contoh:
 misal saat ini ada Black Diamond dibawah price saham ABCD, lalu dia turun
 lagi, di next day (or next candle, kalo di intraday chart, tuh Black Diamond
 bisa hilang).
 Nah kalo misal, pas ada Black Diamond di bawah harga, abis itu langsung
 kita borong tuh saham, eh begitu keluar next candle, Black Diamond-nya
 hilang... apa kaga keder. hehehe...

 Cobain ndiri deh. :)

 Salam



 2009/10/5 ruzli...@gmail.com



 Black Diamond nya boleh juga tuh, apalagi pakai yg real time...
 Tektok abis...
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 *From: * JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com
 *Date: *Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:07:27 +
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: Bls: [ob] Re: BUMI Page ini (Bill William)



 Gua dah matiin laptop..., jadi nanya, soale penasaran

 Sip.., Kommentarnya Cakep.., in line dgn yg ane liat..., boleh juga nih
 system.., hehe

 JT





Re: Bls: [ob] Re: BUMI Page ini (Bill William)

2009-10-05 Terurut Topik boyz®
Simple and Powerful :)

Salam,


2009/10/5 JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com

 Yup.., itu udh paling yahud dah... Hehe..

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 -Original Message-
 From: jkunci jku...@yahoo.com
 Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:20:57
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Bls: [ob] Re: BUMI Page ini (Bill William)

 Ujung2nya pake penggaris goceng Embah aja, ato sekarang udah ganti nama
 jadi penggaris gotiaw karena bnbr mo terbang lagi...:)

 Salam,





Re: Bls: [ob] Re: BUMI Page ini (Bill William)

2009-10-05 Terurut Topik boyz®
2009/10/6 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id

 Boyz...

 lama lama ane pusing nih sama istilah istilah dari ente.
 tambah puyeng lagi ane belajar TA.

 udahlah ente aja yg belajar TA, ntar kasi tau hasil baca TA nya ke gue
 yak...!

 tapi bener kata Emir eh JT. TA nya sih bener, bacanya juga bener, cuma
 PERCAYA APA KAGAK..!

 udah ah.  moga moga DOW ngacung kaya tugu monas...





Siyap jendral...
Wah kalau ente masih bingung and tambah puyeng belajar TA, ini gara-gara si
Hepi nih. kidding :P

Secara TA,  BUMI terlihat cuma kurang Sexy di Volume-nya. Kurang padat
berisi. Candle-nya sih OK, morning star.
Kayaknya Om Hepi siap tuh untuk Pump-Up the Volume.
Teknik bikin gemuk volume sebenernya ga terlalu susah, and bisa dgn biaya
murah...
Fee-nya ga sampe 0.2% bulak-balik (± 0.18).  Om Arto udah paham lahhh :)

Salam,


Re: Bls: [ob] Re: BUMI Page ini (Bill William)

2009-10-05 Terurut Topik boyz®
Kalau masalah ini bukan kesalahan dari software-nya, pak HMin...

Tapi, seperti yg dibilang bro Marcello Djunaidy, memang karena dari
rumus/formulanya yg dinamis. Output sinyal terakhir bisa berubah (dinamis).

Kalau Alesan ane juga hampir sama, karena ada 'tab' and kemudahan fitur +
function.
Selain itu, lebih murah. hehehe...

Salam,



2009/10/6 Cougar Boy boysngi...@gmail.com



 Yup...setuju yang ini.
 Makanya saya exit dari metastock pindah ke amibroker.

 ada tab di bawahnya.

 2009/10/5 JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com



 Bener, banyak kejadian di system lain juga kayak begitu.., mungkin data
 terakhir bisa mempengaruh 'hitungan' sebelumnya, jadi memang tergantung
 formulanya.., apalagi kalo yg berkaitan dgn wave counting, ampun dah, bisa
 berubah2, hehe., well, ane sih memang kurang begitu demen ngoprek
 indikator, yg ada malah ngga trading2.., buat ane chart polos plus volume
 udh bisa cerita banyak, system hanya sebagai second opinion dan pembanding
 aja...

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 *From: * boyz® m457...@yahoo.com.sg
 *Date: *Mon, 5 Oct 2009 23:03:26 +0700
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: Bls: [ob] Re: BUMI Page ini (Bill William)

 Soalnya, ane dulu pernah kejadian gitu. Tiba-tiba Black Diamond-nya
 hilang.
 Padahal ane inget banget tadinya ada Black Diamond.

 Saking penasarannya waktu itu, ane delete data terakhir yg dimasukin (biar
 candle terakhir-nya hilang. kayak UNDO gituh).
 Eh bener tuh Black Diamond-nya nongol lagi.
 Lalu, ane masukin lagi data terakhir yg tadi didelete.
 Black Diamond-nya hilang lagi ... :P

 Salam,


 2009/10/5 boyz® m457...@yahoo.com.sg

 IMO, Black Diamond-nya tetep ga bisa berdiri sendiri untuk jadi patokan.
 Apalagi untuk tik-tok. Ane udah pernah nyobain. Coba deh u pakai bbrp
 waktu, nanti u akan lihat, kadang-2 Black Diamond-nya bisa hilang.

 Contoh:
 misal saat ini ada Black Diamond dibawah price saham ABCD, lalu dia turun
 lagi, di next day (or next candle, kalo di intraday chart, tuh Black Diamond
 bisa hilang).
 Nah kalo misal, pas ada Black Diamond di bawah harga, abis itu langsung
 kita borong tuh saham, eh begitu keluar next candle, Black Diamond-nya
 hilang... apa kaga keder. hehehe...

 Cobain ndiri deh. :)

 Salam



 2009/10/5 ruzli...@gmail.com



 Black Diamond nya boleh juga tuh, apalagi pakai yg real time...
 Tektok abis...
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 *From: * JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com
 *Date: *Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:07:27 +
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: Bls: [ob] Re: BUMI Page ini (Bill William)



 Gua dah matiin laptop..., jadi nanya, soale penasaran

 Sip.., Kommentarnya Cakep.., in line dgn yg ane liat..., boleh juga nih
 system.., hehe

 JT






 



Re: Bls: [ob] Re: DJIA for today - Lakon Wisanggeni ?

2009-10-04 Terurut Topik boyz®
Makasih master Edwin atas kesediaannya menjelaskan :)

Sepertinya ada dua versi ttg kematian/kekalahan Wisanggeni:
http://bharatayudha.multiply.com/journal/item/325

 Meski ia termasuk golongan weruh sakdurunge winarah (mampu melihat sebelum
 terjadi), tetap juga Wisanggeni menjalani takdirnya kemudian: Menjadi tumbal
 kemenangan Pandhawa. Sang satria *Wisanggeni mati di tangan Bala Kurawa
 dengan legowo*.


http://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisanggeni

 Setelah melalui beberapa pertimbangan, akhirnya Wisanggeni dan Antasena
 memutuskan untuk tidak kembali ke perkemahan Pandawa. Keduanya rela menjadi
 tumbal demi kemenangan para Pandawa. *Mereka pun mengheningkan cipta.
 Beberapa waktu kemudian keduanya pun mencapai moksa, musnah bersama jasad
 mereka.*


Memang agak menarik membaca kisah-2 pewayangan ini, ada banyak pelajaran or
wisdom dari alur cerita-nya and tokoh-2nya.
Yah mumpung weekend, and ada master Edwin yg bisa dijadikan acuan untuk
bertanya. hehehe...

Salam,


2009/10/4 EdwinKdr edwin...@yahoo.com




 *--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz® m457...@... wrote:*
 
  Wisanggeni = Salah satu anggota konsorsium BOZZ atau (atau BOZZ?)
  para Pandawa = Konsorsium BOZZ (the Gank).
  Bhatara guru = SUPERBOZZ.
 
  Gitu ya pak Edwin ??
 

 Ya bisa jadi juga spt itu Pak [image: :D]

 Wah sepertinya jadi tertarik dengan cerita wayang nich Pak boyz.Padahal
 tadi saya cuman iseng aja...Mumpung weekend.. [image: :]
 Jadi cerita2 wayang nich..semoga gpp. [image: :p]

 Tokoh Wisanggeni ini dimunculkan karena memang posisinya yg unik, tapi
 sakti luar biasa.

 Tdk ada yg bisa mengalahkannya Pak Sejauh ini.
 karena memang momongan langsung dari Semar Badranaya
 atau juga jadi momongan Sang Hyang Wenang.

 Bima atau Werkudara dalam lakon Bima Suci saat dirasuki Sang Hyang Wenang
 pun.
 Para Dewa maupun Bathara Guru tdk sanggup melawan.

  Hanya baru setelah dijelaskan oleh Kresna. Bima mau beranjak dari
 pertapaannya [image: :]

 **



Re: Bls: [ob] Re: DJIA for today - Lakon Wisanggeni ?

2009-10-04 Terurut Topik boyz®
Makasih atas compliment-nya Om Arto and Mr. Wong Cilik :D
Cuma karakternya beda jauh ama saya... lah saya masih culun and newbie gini
mana mungkin.

tapi, dari link master edwin, karakter yg cocok dgn ane mungkin yang ini
nih...

 Syahdan lahirlah Bambang Wisanggeni di pertapaan Kendalisada, tempat Resi
 Mayangkara...
 Dia berwajah tampan dan digariskan berwatak sahaja.


hihihi... :D




2009/10/4 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id




 boyz kayaknya cocok jadi wisanggeni nya OB.

 liat aja karakter karakternya pas abis.

 regards,
 A9




Re: Bls: [ob] Re: DJIA for today - Lakon Wisanggeni ?

2009-10-04 Terurut Topik boyz®
Makasih atas compliment-nya Om Arto and Mr. Wong Cilik :D
Cuma karakternya beda jauh ama saya... lah ane masih culun and newbie gini
mana mungkin.

tapi, dari link master Edwin, karakter yg cocok dengan ane mungkin yang ini
nih...

 Syahdan lahirlah Bambang Wisanggeni di pertapaan Kendalisada, tempat Resi
 Mayangkara...
 *Dia berwajah tampan* dan digariskan berwatak sahaja.


hihihi... :D

Salam,


2009/10/4 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id




 boyz kayaknya cocok jadi wisanggeni nya OB.

 liat aja karakter karakternya pas abis.

 regards,
 A9




Re: [ob] The Nightmare of Sang Raksasa - Hyperinflation

2009-10-04 Terurut Topik boyz®
Thanks for sharing, EL.
I don't think it is secret agenda. Like you said, just common senses.
What will become secret agenda is the maneuver of the market's sovereign to
anticipate that.

From your perspectives, if you think there's asset/fund management
institutions that have the same thinking with yours,
where would they put their assets(funds) to secure it from '*devaluation*'.
(USD devaluated against major currencies, right?)
Commodities? Gold? Bonds? Sharia Bonds? Emerging Market Equities?

Thanks again.

Salam,



2009/10/4 It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com



 *This is a very bearish post you got there mate! Well, here's my 2 cents,
 or should we call it, the GREAT AGENDA (ha ha whatever) for 2010:
 *

- *US dollar is losing its value, price goes up, but since the US is
the biggest consumers for now, inflation will make them lose their
purchasing power thus the demand will be weak (as imports get more
expensive), less workers and raw materials needed. A deadly spiral.

*
- *Keep in mind that we must be careful to operate from the best
definition of inflation. Though it is commonly thought of as 'rising
prices', I prefer the more traditional (and ultimately, more meaningful)
definition: 'an increase in the quantity of money and credit'. Rising 
 prices
are simply one of the effects of inflation; first you have the inflation in
the form of an increase in money and credit and then as an aftereffect we
experience rising prices.

*
- *The demand for coal from China (the biggest consumer) and Japan (the
biggest importer) are expected to be lower next year as they already have
excess supply from last year contract.

*
- *When we talk about inflation, we really mean (cheap) currency. Since
China holds the most USD today it means they're in danger as well. 
 Basically
they're holding worthless paper. (It's not even in the form of paper), so
CIC goes around the world to spread this worthless paper, including to Bumi
(lolz)

*
- *Igor Panarin, a Russian economic professor, predicted that the
United States of America may disintegrate in late 2010 because of civil war
and social unrest (like what happened in Indonesia eleven years ago). I
kinda agree with this guy. People's States of China..

*
- *USD collapses and replaced by SDR (or other form of global money)
for international trade. You know, currently only 4% of USD is in bank 
 notes
(paper), the rest (96%) is electronic money. USD can be created in a matter
of a millisecond.

*
- *There will be possibly the biggest (and the last) major catastrophe
for stock market around the globe in 2010, thanks to dollar shock. I'd say
Buy On Weakness (that is if the global stock exchange doesn't get frozen).

*
- *Alternative energy sources such as biomass, solar, nuclear and
natural gas will play major roles in 2010 forward.

*
- *Asia will be flooded with Americans that are looking for jobs. Our
job.

*
- *Japan will have population crisis. Japaneses are simply refusing to
have children because of high unemployment.

*
- *Many high profile hedge fund like Templeton and Mobius are already
betting in Asia ex Japan.
*

 *Well, it's not really an agenda, just common sense so please feel free to
 discuss. No reason to be afraid though as I know Indonesia survived Asian
 Crisis, right? [?]. I know, sometimes I made crazy thinking. I expect most
 of you will not agree with me (as usual), but please kindly share your
 opinion too. After all these mess, everything will start over again, this is
 only a lifecycle. We are so lucky to witness this epic turnaround. Woohoo!!

 There is no secret agenda, all we have to do is open our mind and think
 outside the box. Macro economy is not a science, it's an art. lolz..
 *

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Re: [ob] The Nightmare of Sang Raksasa - Hyperinflation

2009-10-04 Terurut Topik boyz®
Hahaha... You got me.
Awas ya, gw cubit kalo nanti ketemu :P

Pls EL... tell me.
At least, tell me what are their strategies to minimize the devaluation of
their assets.
Thanks. :)

Salam,


On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:01 PM, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com wrote:



 *I cannot tell you on that one [?]. I don't know the answer. Can somebody
 help?*



 On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 10:35 PM, boyz® m457...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:



 Thanks for sharing, EL.
 I don't think it is secret agenda. Like you said, just common senses.
 What will become secret agenda is the maneuver of the market's sovereign
 to anticipate that.

 From your perspectives, if you think there's asset/fund management
 institutions that have the same thinking with yours,
 where would they put their assets(funds) to secure it from '*devaluation*'.
 (USD devaluated against major currencies, right?)
 Commodities? Gold? Bonds? Sharia Bonds? Emerging Market Equities?

 Thanks again.

 Salam,



 2009/10/4 It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com



 *This is a very bearish post you got there mate! Well, here's my 2
 cents, or should we call it, the GREAT AGENDA (ha ha whatever) for 2010:
 *

- *US dollar is losing its value, price goes up, but since the US is
the biggest consumers for now, inflation will make them lose their
purchasing power thus the demand will be weak (as imports get more
expensive), less workers and raw materials needed. A deadly spiral.

*
- *Keep in mind that we must be careful to operate from the best
definition of inflation. Though it is commonly thought of as 'rising
prices', I prefer the more traditional (and ultimately, more meaningful)
definition: 'an increase in the quantity of money and credit'. Rising 
 prices
are simply one of the effects of inflation; first you have the inflation 
 in
the form of an increase in money and credit and then as an aftereffect we
experience rising prices.

*
- *The demand for coal from China (the biggest consumer) and Japan
(the biggest importer) are expected to be lower next year as they already
have excess supply from last year contract.

*
- *When we talk about inflation, we really mean (cheap) currency.
Since China holds the most USD today it means they're in danger as well.
Basically they're holding worthless paper. (It's not even in the form of
paper), so CIC goes around the world to spread this worthless paper,
including to Bumi (lolz)

*
- *Igor Panarin, a Russian economic professor, predicted that the
United States of America may disintegrate in late 2010 because of civil 
 war
and social unrest (like what happened in Indonesia eleven years ago). I
kinda agree with this guy. People's States of China..

*
- *USD collapses and replaced by SDR (or other form of global money)
for international trade. You know, currently only 4% of USD is in bank 
 notes
(paper), the rest (96%) is electronic money. USD can be created in a 
 matter
of a millisecond.

*
- *There will be possibly the biggest (and the last) major
catastrophe for stock market around the globe in 2010, thanks to dollar
shock. I'd say Buy On Weakness (that is if the global stock exchange 
 doesn't
get frozen).

*
- *Alternative energy sources such as biomass, solar, nuclear and
natural gas will play major roles in 2010 forward.

*
- *Asia will be flooded with Americans that are looking for jobs. Our
job.

*
- *Japan will have population crisis. Japaneses are simply refusing
to have children because of high unemployment.

*
- *Many high profile hedge fund like Templeton and Mobius are already
betting in Asia ex Japan.
*

 *Well, it's not really an agenda, just common sense so please feel free
 to discuss. No reason to be afraid though as I know Indonesia survived Asian
 Crisis, right? [?]. I know, sometimes I made crazy thinking. I expect
 most of you will not agree with me (as usual), but please kindly share your
 opinion too. After all these mess, everything will start over again, this is
 only a lifecycle. We are so lucky to witness this epic turnaround. Woohoo!!

 There is no secret agenda, all we have to do is open our mind and think
 outside the box. Macro economy is not a science, it's an art. lolz..
 *







 

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Re: [ob] The Nightmare of Sang Raksasa - Hyperinflation

2009-10-04 Terurut Topik boyz®
You are so modest :)
Thanks anyway for sharing and enrich us with macro view.
Those should be helpful for them who analyze the market by 'top-down'
approach.
Keep sharing.

Salam,


On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:38 PM, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com wrote:



 *For day to day strategy, OB has JT, Tasrul, Embah, Boyz and Artomoro9
 which should be more than enough to guide everyone here. I, like yokorusi,
 only express our opinion from the macro side.

 I also understand that my investment strategy is not quite relevant to
 retail traders so please forgive me for my limited knowledge.*


 On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:11 PM, boyz® m457...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:



 Hahaha... You got me.
 Awas ya, gw cubit kalo nanti ketemu :P

 Pls EL... tell me.
 At least, tell me what are their strategies to minimize the devaluation of
 their assets.
 Thanks. :)

 Salam,



 On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:01 PM, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.comwrote:



 *I cannot tell you on that one [?]. I don't know the answer. Can somebody
 help?*



 On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 10:35 PM, boyz® m457...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:



 Thanks for sharing, EL.
 I don't think it is secret agenda. Like you said, just common senses.
 What will become secret agenda is the maneuver of the market's sovereign
 to anticipate that.

 From your perspectives, if you think there's asset/fund management
 institutions that have the same thinking with yours,
 where would they put their assets(funds) to secure it from '*
 devaluation*'. (USD devaluated against major currencies, right?)
 Commodities? Gold? Bonds? Sharia Bonds? Emerging Market Equities?

 Thanks again.

 Salam,



 2009/10/4 It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com



 *This is a very bearish post you got there mate! Well, here's my 2
 cents, or should we call it, the GREAT AGENDA (ha ha whatever) for 2010:
 *

- *US dollar is losing its value, price goes up, but since the US
is the biggest consumers for now, inflation will make them lose their
purchasing power thus the demand will be weak (as imports get more
expensive), less workers and raw materials needed. A deadly spiral.

*
- *Keep in mind that we must be careful to operate from the best
definition of inflation. Though it is commonly thought of as 'rising
prices', I prefer the more traditional (and ultimately, more 
 meaningful)
definition: 'an increase in the quantity of money and credit'. Rising 
 prices
are simply one of the effects of inflation; first you have the 
 inflation in
the form of an increase in money and credit and then as an aftereffect 
 we
experience rising prices.

*
- *The demand for coal from China (the biggest consumer) and Japan
(the biggest importer) are expected to be lower next year as they 
 already
have excess supply from last year contract.

*
- *When we talk about inflation, we really mean (cheap) currency.
Since China holds the most USD today it means they're in danger as 
 well.
Basically they're holding worthless paper. (It's not even in the form 
 of
paper), so CIC goes around the world to spread this worthless paper,
including to Bumi (lolz)

*
- *Igor Panarin, a Russian economic professor, predicted that the
United States of America may disintegrate in late 2010 because of 
 civil war
and social unrest (like what happened in Indonesia eleven years ago). I
kinda agree with this guy. People's States of China..

*
- *USD collapses and replaced by SDR (or other form of global
money) for international trade. You know, currently only 4% of USD is 
 in
bank notes (paper), the rest (96%) is electronic money. USD can be 
 created
in a matter of a millisecond.

*
- *There will be possibly the biggest (and the last) major
catastrophe for stock market around the globe in 2010, thanks to dollar
shock. I'd say Buy On Weakness (that is if the global stock exchange 
 doesn't
get frozen).

*
- *Alternative energy sources such as biomass, solar, nuclear and
natural gas will play major roles in 2010 forward.

*
- *Asia will be flooded with Americans that are looking for jobs.
Our job.

*
- *Japan will have population crisis. Japaneses are simply refusing
to have children because of high unemployment.

*
- *Many high profile hedge fund like Templeton and Mobius are
already betting in Asia ex Japan.
*

 *Well, it's not really an agenda, just common sense so please feel
 free to discuss. No reason to be afraid though as I know Indonesia 
 survived
 Asian Crisis, right? [?]. I know, sometimes I made crazy thinking. I
 expect most of you will not agree with me (as usual), but please kindly
 share your opinion too. After all these mess, everything will start over
 again, this is only a lifecycle. We are so lucky to witness this epic
 turnaround. Woohoo!!

 There is no secret agenda, all we have to do is open our mind and think
 outside the box. Macro

Re: [ob] BUMI Page ini (Bill William)

2009-10-04 Terurut Topik boyz®
And penulis buku TRADING CHAOS ...

Refreshing links:
http://www.mail-archive.com/obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com/msg10517.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com/msg10520.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com/msg10524.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com/msg10527.html

Salam,



On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 10:39 AM, jsx_consultant 
jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id wrote:

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, fifi young fifiyoun...@... wrote:
 BW adalah pencipta Profitunity method dan Expert Advisor di
 Metastock. Lihat di menu TOOL dan pilih Expert Advisor...



Re: [ob] Re: BUMI Page ini (Bill William)

2009-10-04 Terurut Topik boyz®
ups...
Link ini juga:
http://www.mail-archive.com/obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com/msg10592.html

Salam,


2009/10/5 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id

 Embah juga belon tahu banyak soal metoda ini, tapi embah
 seneng liat signal BLACK DIAMOND (mirip BLUE DOTnya pak Angelo
 mengkali).

 Embah mengartikannya BLACK DIAMOND adalah signal WAVE REVERSAL ??,
 jadi buat SWING TRADING seharusnya bagus...



 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, danii . 378da...@... wrote:
 
  dipake utk tektok harian ya mbah??
 
  2009/10/5 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@...
 
   10:30
  
   IHSG turun -16, BUMI nyentuh 3050 lagi tapi GARISNYA pada
   grafik masik hijau
  
  
   http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbumizz.png
  
   Note:
   - Embah baru coba methoda Bill William ini kemarin, kita
saksikan bersama apakah methoda ini BAGUS ?.
   - Grafiknya kalo belum berubah di REFRESH, embah akan update
grafik ini setiap 30 menit sekali.
  
  
   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant
 jsx-consultant@
   wrote:
   
10:00
   
   
http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbumizz.png
   
  
  
  
  
   
  
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   Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
   kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
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Re: [ob] Kegocek lagi kah ?

2009-10-03 Terurut Topik boyz®
Hus... Masa gw nyuekin Elaine. Kaga lah...
Ini gw lagi nyari-2 alesan buat ngeles. Hehehe,...

@EL: Sabar ye darling. ane lagi ada urusan dikit.

Salam,


On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Joe Martin milis.s4...@gmail.com wrote:



 Hahaha... Kesian deh dicuekin ama Mr. Boyz

 *kaboerrr



Re: Bls: [ob] BD vs Tukang Catut... BANDAR TETAP UNTUNG .... HAHAHA...

2009-10-03 Terurut Topik boyz®
Wekz...
Om Arto lempar tangan sembunyi batu nih.
Jelas-jelas yg BD itu jendral Arto and Elaine.  Ane mah cuma printilan.

Klasifikasi ukuran yg pantas disebut BD?


Kayaknya Master Oentoeng nih yg paling pas ngejelasin.

Tapi setau ane, BD itu ada bbrp klasifikasi-nya.
contoh
*Who*: Institution, groups (gank), and individual.
*What*: Blue Chips MM (institution, gank), 2nd Liner (institutuion, gank,
individu), 3rd liner.
*When*: Trend market maker, momentum MM, Scalper MM.
*Why*: Emiten driven (BD yg dipelihara emiten), fundamental driven,
technical driven, momentum driven, bahkan incidental driven.
*Where*: Skala global (institusi yg punya jaringan, pengaruh, and akses
international), Skala regional (institusi or group yg punya jaringan,
pengaruh, and akses regional), lokal (institusi, group or individu yg punya
jaringan, pengaruh dan akses lokal).
*Dll..* bisa juga diklasifikasi dgn parameter yg lain.

kalau yg om Arto maksud dgn Klasifikasi ukuran yg pantas itu = DANA si
BD...
ya mungkin perorangan yg cuma modal ratusan juta (gak sampe milyaran) bisa
juga jadi BD.
tapi kayaknya saham yang di-handle (digoreng) mostly adalah saham dua digit
(harganya dibawah 100) and jumlah saham yg beredar di market sedikit.

Salam,


2009/10/3 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id


 yang ane tau sih si BOZZ kaga pernah rugi. entah kalo boss yang laen ya.

 ukuran untuk klasifikasi BD bisa beda beda sih tiap orang.
 ada yg bilang elaine BD, tapi si boyz juga bisa di sebut BD.

 apakah ada yang bisa klasifikasi ukuran yg pantas di sebut BD...?

 pls share... buat OOT aja. mumpung weekend. ciaooo..




Re: Bls: [ob] BD vs Tukang Catut... BANDAR TETAP UNTUNG .... HAHAHA...

2009-10-03 Terurut Topik boyz®
2009/10/3 JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com


 Karena ente tau si BOZZ kagak pernah rugi, berarti ente kenal dan bisa
 jelasin nih, sebenernya kalo kita ngomongin Si BOZZ, kite lagi
 ngomongin siapa sih, Bang??, I am sure disini juga banyak yg penasaran
 pingin tau. Hehe..., cerita dong



Siapakah BOZZ ?
Barangkali links below bisa membantu.

http://www.mail-archive.com/obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com/msg04674.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com/msg04671.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com/msg36728.html

Ada juga tulisan mBah ttg BOZZ belum lama ini, tapi ane lom ketemu link-nya.
coba deh ubek2 arsip OB...

Salam,


Re: Bls: [ob] Re: DJIA for today - Lakon Wisanggeni ?

2009-10-03 Terurut Topik boyz®
Wisanggeni = Salah satu anggota konsorsium BOZZ atau (atau BOZZ?)
para Pandawa = Konsorsium BOZZ (the Gank).
Bhatara guru = SUPERBOZZ.

Gitu ya pak Edwin ??


mo tanya nih pak Edwin, dalam cerita pewayangan itu Wisanggeni (bisa)
dikalahkan oleh siapa?

Wisanggeni tinggal di Kahyangan Daksinapati bersama ibunya. Dan meninggal
 menjelang perang Bharatayuddha bersama Antasena atas permintaan Batara
 Kresna sebagai tumbal untuk kemenangan Pandawa atas perang tersebut.


atau self destruction? harakiri? ...and, siapa pula Batara Kresna?
Maklum saya gak ngerti cerita pewayangan. Many thx pak Edwin. GBU.

Salam,


2009/10/4 EdwinKdr edwin...@yahoo.com




 *
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Hanif Mantiq hanif_man...@...
 wrote:*
 
  *pa tirta, please don't forget copper price as leading economic
 indicator, is it bad or good right now? just made it clear and loud like
 mbah said, in my point of view DJIA 50 EMA will not holds*
 
 
 
 * Bls: [ob] Re: DJIA for today
  Posted by: tirta...@... tirta...@... tirta858
  Fri Oct 2, 2009 7:09 am (PDT) *
 
  DJIA morning shot. Will 50 EMA holds?
 
 

 http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5749/djia.gif

 Setelah Compare2 antara CHART Copper dan DJI Pak Tirta. [image: :)]

 EMA 50 - antara 9.400 (+/-)

 Kalo dihitung dengan

 DJI - 6 Bulan Yahoo Finance 
 A-B-Chttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2aKqvFC3Mmk/Ssf6aJAbd6I/A_U/y1Isiohe7Dc/s1600-h/DJI+-+6Month+Yahoo+Finance.PNG

 Menunggu pembentukan Pattern pembalikan di Nomor C [image: :]

 Target C = +/- @Trendline ada di 93XX

 DJI - 5 Hari Terbalik Yahoo 
 Financehttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2aKqvFC3Mmk/Ssf6hBqzogI/A_k/ucfQx1ckN7E/s1600-h/DJI+-+5+Day.PNG


 Secara Garis Besar Pola DJI :

 DJI - 6 Bulan Target Z4 = 
 93XXhttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2aKqvFC3Mmk/Ssf6ZJh_kSI/A_E/K2NknEs1AyQ/s1600-h/DJI+-+Daily+Plan.PNG

 Perbandingan Chart DJI 1 Tahun dan 6 
 Bulanhttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2aKqvFC3Mmk/Ssf6Zl5CebI/A_M/fLPILZ_Ww5g/s1600-h/DJI+-+Chart+Yahoo+Finance.PNG

 Patokan yg diambil = *W1-W2*, terjadi pada sekitar bulan *Juni - Juli 2009
 *

 Jika dengan menggunakan TEKNIK Ninja Copy, Hatake 
 Kakashihttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2aKqvFC3Mmk/Ssf9vIkIM9I/A_0/QQ72XihHM60/s1600-h/kakashi_cartoon.jpg
 (Naruto) [image: :))]

 Apply to ALL [image: :]


 Maka *CHART Copper* akan menjadi :

 Chart Copper 1 
 Tahunhttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2aKqvFC3Mmk/Ssf6gxBiGNI/A_c/5svDR79X1us/s1600-h/Chart+COPPER+-+1+Year.PNG

 Target W4 = 2.6XX dan W5 = 3.1XX [image: :-/]

 *USD dan Crude OIL :*

 Index USD - 
 Weeklyhttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_2aKqvFC3Mmk/Ssf5w8grSvI/A-c/rOSjf93peZU/s1600-h/Index+USD+Weekly.PNG

 Break Down ke Index USD 
 Dailyhttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2aKqvFC3Mmk/Ssf5xbhTIhI/A-k/86KaS1LyOeM/s1600-h/Index+USD+Daily.PNG

 Masih INLINE [image: :D]

 target 74-75

 *OIL yg masih Zig Zag* [image: :p]

 Oil Weekly 
 Charthttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2aKqvFC3Mmk/Ssf5wLkJauI/A-M/QhtgoU4J70Y/s1600-h/Oil+Chart+Weekly.PNG

 Target 83-84

 Break Down ke Oil Daily 
 Charthttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2aKqvFC3Mmk/Ssf5wkPrpzI/A-U/uhdZQuFteok/s1600-h/Oil+Chart+Daily.PNG

 Resisten terdekat sekitar 73,5

 Demikian juga dengan : BSESN [image: :D]

 Perbandingan Chart 1 Tahun BSESN dan 
 JKSEhttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2aKqvFC3Mmk/Ssf6hkEVhSI/A_s/C9-zpqdyU2k/s1600-h/BSESN+vs+JKSE+-+3+Day+Chart+Yahoo.PNG


 Disini yg unik adalah IHSG [image: :)]

 Sepertinya kog sudah berjalan duluan(Leader [image: :-/]) atau Weruh
 Sadurunge Winarah [image: :D]

 Dengan referensi sebelumnya CHART Bumpy IHSG yg embah kirim...kira2 jika di
 apply ke Weekly simulasinya akan menjadi sbb :

 IHSG Weekly 
 CHARThttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2aKqvFC3Mmk/Ssf5xwRyE3I/A-s/uqLtajjQ088/s1600-h/IHSG+-+Weekly+-+Plan.PNG

 Jika asumsi W3 target adalah = 2.570 (PL = Papa Loreng Target [image: :))]
 )
 Maka W4 kurang lebih di 22XX [image: :-?]

 Dan harapannya adalah  cepat atau lambat IHSG BREAK NEW HIGH = 30XX(W5),
 mungkin saja sampai Q1 2010. [image: B-)] -- Mungkin nggak ya ?

 Membentuk V Pattern Recovery(Reversal). (Weekly)

 Break Down ke IHSG Daily 
 Charthttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2aKqvFC3Mmk/Ssf6YdRb45I/A-0/1Ug8L_jouZ0/s1600-h/IHSG+-+Daily+Plan.PNG

 Semoga saja masih ada ruang sd 2.6XX [image: :p]


 http://www.detikfinance.com/read/2009/10/02/162650/1213948/6/ihsg-melawan-arus-pelemahan


 *Bahasa Dramanya kira2 :*

 Ditengah DJI,Copper, Oil, Index USD dan Regional(BSESN) yg sedang
 membentuk W3.sw4-- IHSG tampil beda dengan sosok yg sakti mandraguna, yg
 mungkin tdk diharapkan dan tanpa diduga sudah mendahului
 pembentukanW4-nya(jelasnya W3.sw4) [image: :]

 Entah benar atau tidak...Saya Jadi inget lakon wayang *Wisanggeni* nich 
 [image:
 B-)]

 *Rangkuman Cerita :*

 Wisanggeni merupakan tokoh istimewa dalam pewayangan Jawa. Ia dikenal
 pemberani, tegas dalam bersikap, serta memiliki kesaktian luar biasa.


 Dalam wiracarita Mahabharata, Wisanggeni adalah anak Arjuna dari Dewi
 

Re: [ob] TAL?? Dow -1%an, ob sepi

2009-10-02 Terurut Topik boyz®
TAL = tanda alam pak

Biasanya kalo sepi, mo naik tapi kalau skrg...
Index minus, tapi kok market meriah banget euy...

[?]

Salam,


2009/10/2 sky_...@yahoo.com

 Mohon tanYa klo TAL itu apa yah?mTerima kasih$ newbI

 Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung
 Teruuusss...!
 --
 *From: * boyz® m457...@yahoo.com.sg
 *Date: *Thu, 1 Oct 2009 23:26:45 +0700
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] TAL?? Dow -1%an, ob sepi



 Kalo sepi, bukannya tanda-tanda mo naik ya?



 Salam,

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Re: [ob] M E D C

2009-10-02 Terurut Topik boyz®
2009/10/1 boyz® m457...@gmail.com

 On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Prasetyo, Hani hani.prase...@sc.comwrote:

  Ok D… ane bantu biar OK ye…;)



 Iya bos... bantuin dong biar OK... :)
 Biar bisa jebol 3100-3125.

 Salam,



Tq Bos udah di bantuin :D
[?]
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Re: [ob] M E D C

2009-10-02 Terurut Topik boyz®
thx anyway, bos...
bantuin dikit aje naiknya banyak... apalagi bantuin banyak [?]

Salam,



On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Prasetyo, Hani hani.prase...@sc.com wrote:



  Kang Ocoy noh yang borong banyak… ane cm bantu dikit koq…


  --

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 obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *boyz®
 *Sent:* Friday, October 02, 2009 3:09 PM
 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [ob] M E D C





 2009/10/1 boyz® m457...@gmail.com

 On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Prasetyo, Hani hani.prase...@sc.com
 wrote:

 Ok D… ane bantu biar OK ye…;)



 Iya bos... bantuin dong biar OK... :)
 Biar bisa jebol 3100-3125.

 Salam,





 Tq Bos udah di bantuin :D
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Re: [ob] PANAH ARJUNA

2009-10-02 Terurut Topik boyz®
Another TAL..
:)


2009/10/2 ratuaimee ratus...@gmail.com



 Straight ya...
 Hari ini MERAH dulu. SELAMATKAN early next week.

 Lihat detik terakhir!

 RATU SIMA,
 The United Kingdom of Kalingga


 


Re: [ob] PANAH ARJUNA

2009-10-02 Terurut Topik boyz®
hehehe, ke japri...
ane bantuin forward ke milis.

On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 3:29 PM, sahami...@ymail.com wrote:

 Hahaha.. TAL TAL TAL oi Everybody..

 Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
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 *From: * boyz® m457...@yahoo.com.sg
 *Date: *Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:21:54 +0700
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] PANAH ARJUNA



 Another TAL..
 :)


 2009/10/2 ratuaimee ratus...@gmail.com



 Straight ya...
 Hari ini MERAH dulu. SELAMATKAN early next week.

 Lihat detik terakhir!

 RATU SIMA,
 The United Kingdom of Kalingga



  



Re: [ob] PANAH ARJUNA

2009-10-02 Terurut Topik boyz®
Emang Ratu Aimee Indicator paling Top Markotop di OB
Ga ada duanya hehehe,...

Salam,


2009/10/2 katrin kusu...@gmail.com



 Dah hijau tuh :d
 Yg mana yg mau di buangin ? :)
 --
 *From: * ratuaimee ratus...@gmail.com
 *Date: *Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:18:24 -
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *[ob] PANAH ARJUNA



 Straight ya...

 Hari ini MERAH dulu. SELAMATKAN early next week.

 Lihat detik terakhir!

 RATU SIMA,
 The United Kingdom of Kalingga


 



Re: [ob] PANAH ARJUNA

2009-10-02 Terurut Topik boyz®
masa EL ga tau sih? Most OB'ers tau lah...

Salut buat Ratu Aimee...
Your Accuracy *belum ada tandingannya* sampai saat ini :)
Congratz...

Salam,


2009/10/2 Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com



 *Mmmh... outflow??!!*

 2009/10/2 boyz® m457...@yahoo.com.sg



 Emang Ratu Aimee Indicator paling Top Markotop di OB
 Ga ada duanya hehehe,...

 Salam,


 2009/10/2 katrin kusu...@gmail.com



 Dah hijau tuh :d
 Yg mana yg mau di buangin ? :)
 --
 *From: * ratuaimee ratus...@gmail.com
 *Date: *Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:18:24 -
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *[ob] PANAH ARJUNA



 Straight ya...

 Hari ini MERAH dulu. SELAMATKAN early next week.

 Lihat detik terakhir!

 RATU SIMA,
 The United Kingdom of Kalingga








 



Re: [ob] PANAH ARJUNA

2009-10-02 Terurut Topik boyz®
Hus, jangan gitu bro... nanti kualat, hehehe...
Jendral arto tuh senior, tauk...

@A9: Masa ente ga tau sih, jend? pasti pura-pura nih...

Salam,


On 10/2/09, sudi.mam...@yahoo.com sudi.mam...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Kalo gini kliatan mana yg nubie di ob ama yg dah lama di Ob..hihihih..
 Tq aimee u'r de best dah!!
 --
 *From: * artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id
 *Date: *Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:35:52 +0800 (SGT)
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] PANAH ARJUNA


 maksudnya apa nih mas boyz...???

 regards,
 A9


 --- Pada *Jum, 2/10/09, boyz® m457...@yahoo.com.sg* menulis:


 Dari: boyz® m457...@yahoo.com.sg
 Judul: Re: [ob] PANAH ARJUNA
 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Tanggal: Jumat, 2 Oktober, 2009, 4:03 PM



 masa EL ga tau sih? Most OB'ers tau lah...

 Salut buat Ratu Aimee...
 Your Accuracy *belum ada tandingannya* sampai saat ini :)
 Congratz...

 Salam,


 2009/10/2 Elaine Sui 
 elainesu...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=elainesu...@gmail.com
 



 *Mmmh... outflow??!!*

 2009/10/2 boyz® 
 m457...@yahoo.com.sghttp://mc/compose?to=m457...@yahoo.com.sg
 



 Emang Ratu Aimee Indicator paling Top Markotop di OB
 Ga ada duanya hehehe,...

 Salam,


 2009/10/2 katrin kusu...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=kusu...@gmail.com
 



 Dah hijau tuh :d
 Yg mana yg mau di buangin ? :)
 --
 *From: * ratuaimee 
 ratus...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=ratus...@gmail.com

 *Date: *Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:18:24 -
 *To: 
 *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com
 
 *Subject: *[ob] PANAH ARJUNA



 Straight ya...

 Hari ini MERAH dulu. SELAMATKAN early next week.

 Lihat detik terakhir!

 RATU SIMA,
 The United Kingdom of Kalingga












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Re: Bls: [ob] Beatiful day. IHSG 2433-2993 - +50

2009-10-02 Terurut Topik boyz®
Index Value: 2,479.8479
Trade Time: 5:00AM ET
Change: Up 1.877 (0.08%)
Prev Close: 2,477.9709
Open: 2,477.5581
Day's Range: 2,433.0669 - 2,493.364
52wk Range: 1,089.34 - 2,484.68


Dimana salah nya sih?
mBah nulis 2993, kudunya kan 2493
ane jadi binun...




On 10/2/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id wrote:



 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxSniper jsxsni...@... wrote:
 
  Mbah salah tulis 2993 sampe 2 kali.. Hehee..
   - TAL -
  - One Shoot One Kill -
 


 Coba check INI:

 - http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=%5EJKSEt=1dl=onz=lq=lc=

 Salah tulis engga ?.





  -Original Message-
  From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@...
  Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:33:48

  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] Beatiful day. IHSG 2433-2993 - +50
 
  BBCA diangkat kepuncaknya sekitar 15 menit sebelum bursa tutup
  dan sesudah itu diturunkan. 15 menit itu MASIH cukup waktu untuk
  trader bermain.
 
  Tapi embah pikir, kenaikan dan penurunan BBCA ini punya misi yg
  lebih COMPLEX tapi masih belum tujuannya apa selain membuat
  IHSG HIGH 2993.
 
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, inpestorpembelajar@ wrote:
  
   Kl nyangkut diatas relatif dikit krn volumenya kecil, dr posting milis
 ini jg keliatan tdk aktif dibahas. Beda dgn medco kl senin depan diturunin
 pasti banyak yg nyangkut, tp CD msh net buy jd relatif aman kyknya .
   Sent from my BlackBerry®
   powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
  
   -Original Message-
   From: billy_budiman92 billybudiman20@
   Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:13:12
   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] Beatiful day. IHSG 2433-2993 - +50
  
   Betul mbah, tuh INTP BBCA akhir closingnya jelek getu, jgn2 bnyk yang
 sangkut di atas pas tarikan maut, hehehhe
  
   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant
 jsx-consultant@ wrote:
   
Pak Oen,
   
Embah coba jelaskan kenapa hari ini seharusnya adalah Beautiful Day:
- Sejak embah mempostingkan Short BUMI (3275) jika IHSG
  naik (+40 point), Embah benar karena BD posisinya memang
  Short terus tapi embah salah karena BD ternyata Long pada
  saham yg lain (seperti Bank dll).
- Posisi Long BD ini terdeteksi oleh jendral Arto, dan muncullah
  Hajar Kanan dari jendral Arto kemarin2. Kalo engga percaya
  coba confirm ama Ybs.
- Semalam DJI turun dalam, TAPI karena posisi BD pada Trading
  Short Term adalah LONG maka BD melakukan Scenario Bumpy yaitu:
1. Jatuhkan IHSG sedalam mungkin pada opening agar trader
   ketakutan dan Cut Loss.
2. Angkat secepat mungkin agar jemuran trader engga sempat
   diangkat, akibatnya trader hilang barang.
3. Consolidasikan IHSG pada tengah hari, ciptakan KERAGUAN.
4. Angkat lagi secepat kilat IHSG pada sore hari agar trader
   Buyback pada harga lebih tinggi.
5. Naikan secara extrim pada saham pengatur IHSG seperti BBCA,
   INTP dll pada penutupan untuk REINFORCEMENT. Embah tidak
   melihat bursa hari ini, jadi mungkin ada yg tidak lengkap.
   
Jadi scenario Contrarian BD hari ini melawan Regional dengan
sebenarnya BISA diprediksi karena posisi Trading BD adalah Long, kalo
 dia mengalah pada regional maka scenarionya tidak efektif
mengingat para Trader pasti lagi pasang Jual. Jadi ketika BD
menjatuhkan IHSG DALAM pada opening menunjukan BD akan
melakukan posisi Contrarian HARI INI.
   
Pak Oen, ngomong kalo udah kejadian memang gampang tapi kalo
disuruh ngomong scenario buat Senin, tentunya masih RABA
RABA hehehe...
   
   
   
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jacob oen oenjacob@ wrote:

 A beautiful day Tergantung dari perspesktif mana Anda
 melihatnya.

 Kalau yang beli BBCA di 2500 dan masih hold hingga sekarang atau
 yang beli BMRI di 1350 dan masih hold hingga sekarang, atau yang beli INTP
 di 5500 dan jual di 11000 .probably today is a beautiful day.

 Tetapi kalau yang beli BUMI di 3400 dan BNBR di 137, is it a
 beautiful day? Bisa ya, bisa tidaksemua serba relatif. Jika ada yang
 bisa memandang bahwa semuanya hanya-lah permainan dunia dan bersifat
 sementara dan Mereka tetap menjaga ketenangan dan keutuhan Hati dari
 faktor-faktor external mungkin today is a beautiful day.

 Btw, Giliran tempat saya sekarang PLN padam.

 Menyangkut layanan PLN ada nggak yang punya idea dan tahu cara
 untuk Menggugat ( melakukan Class action) ke PLN?

 Selama bulan September saja di tempat saya PLN padam kurang lebih
 4x + 2x (Oct 1-2)
 dan ada yang pernah tahu berapa kali PLN padam di daerah Menteng?

 Kalau hal-hal yang mendasar seperti ini saja belum bisa diatasi
 secara comprehensive dan professional bagaimana dengan kemampuan untuk
 mengatasi bencana Alam?

 Jika mutu layanan dasar (kelistrikan) saja hingga sekarang belum
 juga ada perbaikan berarti bagaimana dengan perbaikan kesejahteraan rakyat
 secara menyeluruh?

   

Re: [ob] PANAH ARJUNA

2009-10-02 Terurut Topik boyz®
Help help... tulung someone bantuin jelasin ke jenderal.
Pada tega banget, dari tadi kaga ada yg kasih tau beliau.

and emang dia jarang posting, bro...
ini ane kasih bbrp link, kali2 aja membantu. kalo masih kurang, bisa diubek2
di arsip OB.

http://www.mail-archive.com/obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com/msg147936.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com/msg147940.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com/msg147916.html

Salam,


2009/10/2 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id




 asli kagak ngarti  maksudnya ente apaan. apalgi maksud dari PANAH ARJUNA.?
 kagak ngarti .


 senior..? kagak lah boss. udah tua si iyee. cuma kalo senior sih belom lah.
 masih jah sama yang laen.

 cuman si ratu tumben aja posting.

 regards,
 A9

 --- Pada *Jum, 2/10/09, boyz® m457...@yahoo.com.sg* menulis:


 Dari: boyz® m457...@yahoo.com.sg
 Judul: Re: [ob] PANAH ARJUNA
 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Tanggal: Jumat, 2 Oktober, 2009, 9:20 PM




 Hus, jangan gitu bro... nanti kualat, hehehe...
 Jendral arto tuh senior, tauk...

 @A9: Masa ente ga tau sih, jend? pasti pura-pura nih...

 Salam,


 On 10/2/09, sudi.mam...@yahoo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=sudi.mam...@yahoo.com
 sudi.mam...@yahoo.com http://mc/compose?to=sudi.mam...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Kalo gini kliatan mana yg nubie di ob ama yg dah lama di Ob..hihihih..
 Tq aimee u'r de best dah!!
 --
 *From: * artomoro9 
 artomo...@yahoo.co.idhttp://mc/compose?to=artomo...@yahoo.co.id

 *Date: *Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:35:52 +0800 (SGT)
 *To: 
 *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com
 
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] PANAH ARJUNA


 maksudnya apa nih mas boyz...???

 regards,
 A9


 --- Pada *Jum, 2/10/09, boyz® 
 m457...@yahoo.com.sghttp://mc/compose?to=m457...@yahoo.com.sg
 * menulis:


 Dari: boyz® m457...@yahoo.com.sghttp://mc/compose?to=m457...@yahoo.com.sg
 
 Judul: Re: [ob] PANAH ARJUNA
 Kepada: 
 obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com
 Tanggal: Jumat, 2 Oktober, 2009, 4:03 PM



 masa EL ga tau sih? Most OB'ers tau lah...

 Salut buat Ratu Aimee...
 Your Accuracy *belum ada tandingannya* sampai saat ini :)
 Congratz...

 Salam,


 2009/10/2 Elaine Sui 
 elainesu...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=elainesu...@gmail.com
 



 *Mmmh... outflow??!!*

 2009/10/2 boyz® 
 m457...@yahoo.com.sghttp://mc/compose?to=m457...@yahoo.com.sg
 



 Emang Ratu Aimee Indicator paling Top Markotop di OB
 Ga ada duanya hehehe,...

 Salam,


 2009/10/2 katrin kusu...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=kusu...@gmail.com
 



 Dah hijau tuh :d
 Yg mana yg mau di buangin ? :)
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 *From: * ratuaimee 
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 *Date: *Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:18:24 -
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 Straight ya...

 Hari ini MERAH dulu. SELAMATKAN early next week.

 Lihat detik terakhir!

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Re: [ob] PANAH ARJUNA

2009-10-02 Terurut Topik boyz®
Bos rusli, ane kaga paham kudu pake sesajen apa untuk manggil dia...
Ane bukan pawangnya... hehehe...
Btw, ente tega dah bro. Masa jendral Arto dibiarin celingak celinguk, kaga
dikasih clue.

Salam,


2009/10/2 ruzli...@gmail.com

 Mas Boyz, tolong panggilin Brahma Kumbara dong...
 Dah lama ga koar-koar..
 Lg pas nih suasananya...disambut dengan karpet MERAH..
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 *From: * boyz® m457...@yahoo.com.sg
 *Date: *Fri, 2 Oct 2009 21:20:13 +0700
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] PANAH ARJUNA



 Hus, jangan gitu bro... nanti kualat, hehehe...
 Jendral arto tuh senior, tauk...

 @A9: Masa ente ga tau sih, jend? pasti pura-pura nih...

 Salam,


 On 10/2/09, sudi.mam...@yahoo.com sudi.mam...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Kalo gini kliatan mana yg nubie di ob ama yg dah lama di Ob..hihihih..
 Tq aimee u'r de best dah!!
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 *From: * artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id
 *Date: *Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:35:52 +0800 (SGT)
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] PANAH ARJUNA


 maksudnya apa nih mas boyz...???

 regards,
 A9


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 Judul: Re: [ob] PANAH ARJUNA
 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Tanggal: Jumat, 2 Oktober, 2009, 4:03 PM



 masa EL ga tau sih? Most OB'ers tau lah...

 Salut buat Ratu Aimee...
 Your Accuracy *belum ada tandingannya* sampai saat ini :)
 Congratz...

 Salam,


 2009/10/2 Elaine Sui 
 elainesu...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=elainesu...@gmail.com
 



 *Mmmh... outflow??!!*

 2009/10/2 boyz® 
 m457...@yahoo.com.sghttp://mc/compose?to=m457...@yahoo.com.sg
 



 Emang Ratu Aimee Indicator paling Top Markotop di OB
 Ga ada duanya hehehe,...

 Salam,


 2009/10/2 katrin kusu...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=kusu...@gmail.com
 



 Dah hijau tuh :d
 Yg mana yg mau di buangin ? :)
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 *From: * ratuaimee 
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 *Date: *Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:18:24 -
 *To: 
 *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com
 
 *Subject: *[ob] PANAH ARJUNA



 Straight ya...

 Hari ini MERAH dulu. SELAMATKAN early next week.

 Lihat detik terakhir!

 RATU SIMA,
 The United Kingdom of Kalingga












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