Buy di bulan JULY saja .... Re: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MASAlah
Seperti pengalaman P.Oentoeng, biasanya saham yg direkomendasikan akan naik sekitar 1-2 bln kedepan. Karena BD selalu contrarian dg pendapat P.Oen yg banyak fansnya ini. Kalo fansnya uda capek, nyerah, gelisah, mules2 dan banyak CL, itu saatnya BD akan narik cepet2 keatas. Jadi spy MASA tidak jadi MASALAH, bukankah sebaiknya kita beli ntar di mid July saja ?? oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Sutikno Tikno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nampaknya MASA lg bikin MASAlah ya, udah ditungguuin lama gak naik- 2 ampek kemeng mata ini mlototi MASA dimonitor saking gak tahan, ya terpaksa di CL aja, emangnya gak ada cuan ditempat lain dari pada kpl jadi pening, perut mual terus punggung pegal mungkin p oentong orgnya sabar and bijak Bicara sabar and bijak nggak juga pak...ini khan MASAlah PILIHAN. Benernya nggak peduli itu emiten atau bukan, yg jelas gajah yg NGINJEK sementara ini posisinya masih menang. Apa rencana mereka saya juga tahu, jadi yg nentuin khan dia. Daripada tergantung ama dia,dimana ada kemungkinan pagi ngomong kedelai sore TEMPE. Lebih baik cepat ambil keputusan masing2... Walaupun saya tahu besok atau minggu depan akan ada riset BARU lagi yg menyusul. Yang penting pelajaran di sini adalah: Secangkir KOPI sebelum diminum adalah DIADUK terlebih dahulu. Kalau toh ada tulisannya INSTANT masak harus diminum sekalian SACHET- nya? MASAlahnya kopi tsb masih kurang gula, makanya rasanya PAHIT. Hehehe... Always safe trading... - Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center.
[obrolan-bandar] Prospek BTEL ?
Seniors... Prospek BTEL ke depan gimana ya?, saya ambil pas di harga tinggi. Ada yg punya riset ttg BTEL?. Terima kasih, - It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar.
[obrolan-bandar] Apa arti Volume=0 utk TIN di LME ?
Di LME (metal prices) 2 hari terakhir Volume TIN = 0, tp hrgnya naik. Artinya apa ya ? Tengkyu- - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
BMRI gimana Mr?...Re: [obrolan-bandar] ASII = 21000, PTBA=UNTR
Wah ada pendatang baru yg OCe punya nih , Kalo BMRI target anda brp Mr ?, apakah lbh baik sell dn switch ke PTBA /ASII ? Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok...Congratulation If you have INKP n TKIM sell nowand buy ASII and or PTBA ...again INKP n TKIM = TOO FAST = SELL My GURU said WINNERS KEEP ON WINNING - Original Message From: feter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 25 April 2007 12:07:50PM Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] TINS and ANTM ASII bo, Laporan Q1 akan segera muncul, dan harga sudah mulai naik hari ini Keep buying, agree with you Mr. Lee - From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com] On Behalf Of mr.bearish_forever Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:29 AM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] TINS and ANTM Short Tins , target 10,000 or even better back to 5000 ANTM, target 13,500 or even better 12,000 so the split will be 2,400 (TINS price before extreme rally) Good Luck and Happy Long Holiday for Japanese colleagues. Hehehehe... - Real people. Real questions. Real answers. Share what you know. - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
[obrolan-bandar] What's wrong with my BMRI ????
Sebagian besar BC hari ini ijo, cuman BMRi yg diteken terus... What's wrong ??? - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
[obrolan-bandar] Mohon info utk BMRI ... (to MR FS dkk)
Melihat lapkeu 1Q07 yg sangat bagus, kira2 gimana dg BMRI ? Apakah saat ini tepat utk masuk ? Berapa Fair Valuenya ? Thanks Uncle, - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
[obrolan-bandar] Info Harga CPO dimana ?
Frenz, Info harga CPO online , web addressnya dimana ya ?. Thanks - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TINS BERGERAK ALA BAJAJ
Kira2 apa donk pak oentoeng ? Bozz sudah bosan dg Tins atau sekedar nakut2in lalat2 penganggu. rgds- oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vindi H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bozz and God know only! I know, but why you don't ask me? Hehehe. Right Bozz? - We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list.
[obrolan-bandar] Ada apa dg INCO ??
Harga spot nickel menyentuh highest level dn sptnya akan terus break new high, tp knp INCO tetep manyun ditempat ?? Buat ancang2 lompat tinggi ato emang lg kena mencret flu Shanghai ? - Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Ada apa dg INCO ??
Wkt gonjang-ganjing, Asing pd buang barang , Local yg mungutin, apa ini cuman siasat BUNGLON, pinjem baju merah jika buang, dn biru jika beli ? kate P.Oentoeng ini siasat kuno bin kampungan, tp bikin mules2 juga tuh, virusnya kemana2... Dari sisi FA, dg rata2 nickel di 37000USD/MT utk 1Q07, at least fair valuenya di 50 rb-an. Ada pandangan lain pak ? Teddy Halim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhatikan aja selama beberapa hari gonjang ganjing siapa tuh yg ngumpulin INCO diem diem dibawah..hehehehe..he.. very quiet operation it seems to me. On 3/2/07, dera ayu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Harga spot nickel menyentuh highest level dn sptnya akan terus break new high, tp knp INCO tetep manyun ditempat ?? Buat ancang2 lompat tinggi ato emang lg kena mencret flu Shanghai ? - Never Miss an Email Stay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get started!
[obrolan-bandar] Riset ANTM
Rekan2 ada riset ANTM ?, bisa di share gak?. Terima kasih - Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit.
APOL, boleh masuk ?......Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Please and thanks
Para senior, APOL ditutup dg volume gede, apakah sekarang bisa masuk ? atau sudah terlambat ? thx - No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] sEPI, shadow trading
Punya contact person yg bisa dihubungi utk fasilitas shadow trading ?. Utk Pak karno sendiri pakai sek apa, bisa dishare, kalo kagok mungkin bisa japri. terima kasih Karno Edy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lewat sekuritas mana aja bisa, misal per telp jual TINS... beli TLKM, tapi gak boleh nanya harga - Original Message - From: ANDIK MUSTIKA To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] sEPI, shadow trading lewat mana pak? - Original Message From: Karno Edy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2007 7:05:43 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] sEPI, shadow trading Ada yang berani coba shadow trading, jangan tanya harga, order buy/sell ..exciting. - Original Message - From: Johand Dimalouw To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] sEPI Speedy di Bandung oke aja tuh. JD - Original Message From: Ki Ndhablek'z Cuan [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, February 5, 2007 5:24:30 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] sEPI Betul2 dibikin sepi ... OB (obrolan Bandar) dan mail.telkom. net juga down ngk bisa diakses... apa speedy juga ya? wah hari2 gini bisa2 ada roler coaster yang bisa bikin sprot jantung untuk IHSG karena banyak koneksi online yang down itupun kalo BEJ dibuka... kita liat aja... Ndablekz - Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. - We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. - The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. - Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users.
[obrolan-bandar] TINS....
dear experts (TA, FA, BA dll) mohon pencerahannya, apakah TINS akan mampu balik ke 6,000 ? berapakah fair value TINS sebenarnya (FA) ? apakah saat ini bisa masuk secara TA ? BA-nya positif gak ? tengkyu - Have a burning question? Go to Yahoo! Answers and get answers from real people who know.
[obrolan-bandar] Gak bisa connect ke BEJ
Etrading gak bisa connect ke BEJ sejak opening marketpdhal mo buyback nih :( BOZZ gak gentleman nih mainnya Payah dech __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Gak bisa connect ke BEJ
Thanks frendz... saya ganti ke HOSTII dan working properly. Tp, koq gak ada HOST IV ya? ...Etrading, bisa comment gak nih, ilang ada oppurtinity :( Budi juga kali.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: coba pas window login, klik config, lalu pilih server lain (saya pake server HOST IV) lancar aja tuh. - From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dera ayu Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 11:13 AM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Gak bisa connect ke BEJ Etrading gak bisa connect ke BEJ sejak opening marketpdhal mo buyback nih :( BOZZ gak gentleman nih mainnya Payah dech __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] To Mr. FS.....Re: Penguasa dua dunia
Thanks Mr FS Baca ulasan pak frederick memang asyik, padat dan straight frwd. Jika pak frederick bisa share ke kita2 yg culun ini, kira2 emiten apa yg berpeluang take advantage on growing better macro then it will be great for us. I know, we'll take fully disclaimer on it.Note : sering2 nongkrong di warung OB-nya mbah, biar yg pada 'tersesat' ada pencerahan :-)Cheerz-Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:just sharing Indonesia...is just like a companythe JSX is the equity of Indonesia...so, if the main index of the JSX is increasing, the debt to equity ratio of Indonesia which was very high before the economic crisis, has been slightly improving. This means that the investment risk in Indonesia isn't that as high as before. It went down from 38% to around 27% nowadays...In the long run, the better stock market, the better would be for the economy in general... Building a good market is costly, while fighting against lone foreign fundsthat have short term oriented, some local big funds should also fight withlocalfollowers who sometimes blindly sell anything when the main index falls anyway, the main index still has big opportunityto close the year above 1740, and will continue to crawl to 2200-2300 by the end of 2007 and slowing down in 2008 due to political campaigning This forecast and targets will be supported by a better economic growth next year, which will become a year of truth so, investment, by any mean, is on your call heavily disclaimer... cheers Lee Quid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: good point! ada advise untuk ngukur jsx sudah 'naik tinggi' mbah? supaya kita2 bisa ikutan nyimpen doeit :-)[jsx-consultant@centrin.net.id] wrote:Angka IHSG dalam BATAS +/-100 point engga bisa dipakai untuk mengukur Qualitas MAKRO ekonomi indonesiaJika IHSG digebug 100 point, yang MERANA bukan ekonomi Indonesia,tapi para SHORT TERM TRADER , alias spekulan yang cari duitbukan dari SEKTOR RIELIHSG naik 200 point lagi pun, rakyat tetap MISKIN, karena sektorRIEL tetap MANDEGEmbah INGATKAN lagi: - Keuntungan yang terbesar bagi siBOZZ di BEJ ialah saat BURSA TURUN drastis karena para SHORT TERM TRADER rugi BESAR- Jadi kalo IHSG naik TINGGI, simpan UANG ANDA deket biji P*LER...--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "dfaj21" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nyungkem dulu mbah Ilmu dan prakteknya dahsyat, luar biasa sekali. Emang kalo foreign investor itu masuk dollar tuker rupiah, ngangkat index sampe menang 100% eh sepuluh hari kemudian beli dolar lagi. Uang dibawa masuk $ 1000 pulang-pulang $2,000. Dapet seribu untung dari mana tuh? Bukannya nyedotin cadangan devisanya rakyat? Foreign investor yang kaya gitu dikemplang sikat abis aja Mbah, dulu Indonesia gak punya bandar gampang dimaenin ama orang bule (singapore ikutan juga gak sih?) ampe hidup merana Toko-toko abis dijarah, rumah digadein buat nutup utang Balikin aja sekarang kalo mereka mau ngejeburin indeks lagi. Hongkong aja bisa nahan mereka, masa kita nggak bisa. Kalo pelan-pelan dilihat efeknya foreigner yang ngubek-ubek pasar kita gak kira-kira. Udah gitu masih juga ada orang indo ngebantuin mereka neken orang sendiri, gila uang negara dijual. Coba sekarang, emang JSX gak ada premannya? EFEK SHORT TERM FOREIGN INVESTMENT YG MENANG - JSX naek, mereka jual dapet cuan. Modal berikut cuannya dituker ke dolar lagi berarti Cadangan Devisa turun. Berapa banyak buruh musti kerja buat ngumpulin 1 juta USD cadangan devisa, berapa banyak hutan lindung musti digunduli tanpa diganti buat ngebayar menangnya mereka? - Akibat JSX naek dan kemudian jual rupiah, jumlah Rupiah beredar jadi banyak, USD merayap naek lagi ke 10,000 trus 12,000 trus 30,000 trus ??? - Jumlah rupiah banyak, pemerintah berusaha menarik peredaran jumlah rupiah dengan menaikkan suku bunga. Tambah merana lagilah saya. Idup sudah kembang kempis sampe nyari jalan hidup dari kredit card yang bunganya 30% per tahun, eh Jalan Credit Card juga ditutup ama spekulator foreign. Masa sih gak disisain jalan hidup lain buat kita-kita bangsa indonesia ini. Disini diteken disana diteken... Pantesan aja krisisnya kita ini berkepanjangan... ampir 10 tahun sejak krisis moneter masih juga sembrawutan. Masa sih gak ada bandar nasionalis yang bisa ngemplang penjahat yang mau ngobrak-abrik pasar tradisional kita? Mbah, yang mau nurunin index kita di kemplang aja yah... Terima kasih banyak sebelumnya. Kapan aja mau minta dibakarin menyan atau steik, tinggal ketok pintu rumahnya orang indo yang 210 juta ini, pasti disedia-in. Sponsored LinkTry Netflix today! With plans starting at only $5.99 a month what are you waiting for? Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited. __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Small business finance Business finance online Business finance
[obrolan-bandar] PGAS, is worth to take ?...... Re: Bull Bear Ratio (1661)
Buat para senior dan expert (mr FS), ditengah tingginya JSX, apakah msh ada ruang utk PGAS nyusul temen2nya?, 3 hari terakhir, Volumenya Boom banget tuh, tapi ML jd counterpartnya nih.thengkyu- - Original Message - From: jsx_consultant To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 4:48 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Bull Bear Ratio (1661) 15:44IHSG +8Dari RTI:- BULL 51 vs BEAR 98Dari Etrading- BULL 37 vs BEAR 95IHSG +8 TAPI saham yang KALAH lebih BANYAK (ILUSI index)...Makanya MAKE SENSE kalo embah ngusir para Gambler tadi pagi...--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant" jsx-[EMAIL PROTECTED].. wrote: Katanya si Bush mau keistana Bogor pake chopper... Takutnya, ada orang Al Qaeda nenteng LODONG STINGER buatan Amerika , peninggalan pejuang Mujahidin Afganistan dan diarahin ke Black Hawknya si Bush... BISA jadi debu deh itu Black Hawk... hehehe... note: - LODONG adalah petasan yang dibuat dari bambu gombong yang panjangnya sekitar 2m, dan diisi minyak tanah. Kalo mau dipakai, minyak tanahnya dibikin panas sehingga minyak tanah menjadi GAS yang bisa IGNITE dan meledak dan menimbulkan suara bom.--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Karno Edy" karno.edy@ wrote: bukannya gamble haram Mbah ?- Original Message - From: jsx_consultant To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 3:40 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Bull Bear Ratio (1661) 14:35 IHSG tinggal 1644 atau -17 dari judul postingBuat Gambler yang DIUSIR ama embah tadi pagi, mau GAMBLE lagi bareng para wave SURFER ?.Atau mau Gamble di USDIDR aja bareng embah...--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant" jsx- consultant@ wrote: 12:00 Bull Bear Ratio (1661) RTI: - Bull = 59 dan Bear = 52 (Lebih banyak Bullnya) Etrading: - Bull 45 dan Bear = 50 (Lebih banyak Bearnya) IHSG +20 Note: - Data dari RTI dan Etrading diambil pada waktu yang sama (12:00) - Hasilnya BEDA IHSG +20 tapi Jumlah Bull dan Bear RELATIVE sama !!! Kesimpulan: - Buat para GAMBLER, better STAY OUT... - Buat para Prof, keep RIDING the wave... Sponsored Link Degrees online in as fast as 1 Yr - MBA, Bachelor's, Master's, Associate - Click now to apply __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Small business finance Business finance online Business finance training Business finance course Business finance schools Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[obrolan-bandar] BLTA : Game OveR ??
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[obrolan-bandar] BLTA, koq loyo ??
BLTA di tahan abis ama BD dan AK di 2100-2125, ada news terbaru prendz? Lama2 jengkel juga pegang ini saham, lainnya pada naik lah yg ini cuman muter2 disitu doang :( Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Small business finance Business finance online Business finance training Business finance course Business finance schools Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[obrolan-bandar] CTRA....
Prendz...ada yg tahu lapkue CTRA 1H06, share pls ? Prospek saham ini gimana ya?, sptnya sudah mulai ON... Thengkyu Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta. __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Business finance course Business to business finance Small business finance Business finance consultant Business finance magazine YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "obrolan-bandar" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[obrolan-bandar] OB smakin OCe.....Re: Kuasa bandar
Wah dengan kehadiran pak Fredrick, warungnya embah tambahT.O.P neh...warna-warni..., kalo bisa pak Frederick bawa temen2 pemain besarnya ke warung :)Sambil nunggu konsolidasi, bisa nanya ttg PTBA, gimana view bapak dlm jangka pendek dan panjang ?, soale tabungan anak buat sekolah disini pak Tengkyu...Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:hehehehehehehenice... pemainbesar "could mean" besar badannya atau secara financial emang manage fund diatas 3t atau emang cuma besar omongnya doang hehehe...hopefullyaku yang baik2nya aja cuma ngingetin...telkom mau laporan keuangan semester 1 hari senin...net profit kayaknya naik diatas 18%...so beli sekarang jual selasa..? disclaimer ah... cheers oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Intinya Pak Frederick..Supaya tidak terkesan "Obralan Bandar".Mumpung market sepi/konsolidasi kita ngramein milis sendiri khan bagus juga.Gimana pengalaman Bapak tentang "Pemain Besar" yang lainnya?--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert pemainbesar@... wrote: bukan apa-apa milis tercinta ini kan obrolan bandar...jadi yang ngobrol disini bandar semua kan? masa bandar makan bandar... atau masa bandar yang satu gak tau bandar yang lain lagi ngapain..hehehehehehehehe cheers ratmanard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Betul sekali bandar-bandar bisa membagi-bagi hadiah bagi mereke yang bisa mengikuti/mencermati gerakan-gerakan mereka. Mimpi kalau bandar sampai ngikuti kita --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Kaisar macroreksa@ wrote: Bukannya malah bagus Pak.. Bandar lagi bagi2 hadiah..Soeratman Doerachman ratman@ wrote: Hanya dalam waktu satu setengah menit SP mengguyur PGAS pada tgl 27 Juli. Berapa banyak para pengecer menjadi korban? - Groups are talking. Weacute;re listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups. - Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Business finance course Business to business finance Small business finance Business finance consultant Business finance magazine YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "obrolan-bandar" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA Keep Buying asalkan tahan lihat PER membesar selama 1 tahun ini.
Pak EKA, dg kondisi PTBA tsb dan juga akhir2 ini OD gemar ngeshort, dlm jangka waktu 3-6 bln apakah hold atau cut loss ?. Saya masuk di 3500-an.Thanks advice-nyaEKA SUWANDANA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Nickel feeling sih pasti tembus 10 USD, INCO bakal diatas 25000. Soalnya ada aturan SEC amrik, kalo akuisisi harus ambil juga saham anak persh. Jadi suatu saat bakal ada voluntary delisting. So BD sedang creat harga tertinggi. Gw nggak tau dgn ANTM ngaruh nggak dgn nickelnya. Geraknya kadang aneh, mudah2an sih ngikut, soalnya masih punya.Utk PTBA kemarin q1 rugi kursnya itu sekitar Rp50Miliar, itu menurut saya sudah keterlaluan. ANTM, PTBA rugi kurs sebagai imbas Keppres (entah nomer berapa) baru oktober tahun 2005 yg lalu, supaya semua BUMN yg berpenghasilan dolar, harus langsung konversi ke rupiah dalam 1 bulan. Keppres ini gara2 krisis BBM dan jatuhnya Rupiah bulan agustus 2005. Jadi mulai okt 2005 ANTM dan PTBA acct USDnya selalu dikosongkan. Jadi bener2 BUMN2 nggak boleh nge-hedge. So saya sendiri punya perkiraan kuat PER PTBA nggak bakal pulih sampai q3. Sebenernya ini kepres nggak perlu, masak orang usaha nggak boleh hedging, sama sekali, saya pikir nggak ngaruh dgn currency. Economic Stupid!Karno Edy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gw kira nickel akan tembus new high 10++ Strong buy INCO ANTMPTBA, I don't think real PER will be 30. Kalo sekarang EPS nya 30 itu mah namanya EPS boongan, makanya yg ngga kuat nahan jual aja. - Original Message - From: up_trends To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 10:10 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA Keep Buying asalkan tahan lihat PER membesar selama 1 tahun ini. London - Nickel gained 2.1% in London after Phelps Dodge announced a $40bn buyout for two Canadian miners on Monday, suggesting that the company believes metals prices will stay high in the longer term, analysts said. Phelps Dodge said it would acquire Inco and Falconbridge in a deal to form the world's largest nickel and second largest copper producer. "From the price they are prepared to pay, you have to infer that Phelps Dodge believe that (metals) prices will stay strong. It's the only way they can justify these sorts of numbers," a London mining analyst said. At midday London Metal Exchange nickel prices were $400 higher at $19,600 a tonne. Copper for delivery in three months was at $6,821 a tonne, up $41 from Friday but $2,000 below May's record peak. "The new company will have greater control of copper, nickel and molydenum production. This means they may be able to smooth out cyclical price variations," UBS analyst Robin Bhar said. "Both companies were swift to cut back production when prices were at their lows in 2001...they may also be able to fast track projects when prices rise." Metals prices rocketed to record highs in May, in part due to strong buying from investment funds, but also because of the laggardly response by producers to increase output. ABN AMRO analyst Tim Huff said of the Phelps deal: "This is a very smart move. By setting the bid price for Inco, they don't complicate Inco's bid for Falconbridge. That pins down Inco's share price and revalues Inco's bid for Falconbridge." Two rivals, Inco and Swiss-based Xstrata, have been engaged in a bidding war for Falconbridge, and the Phelps Dodge move gives the Inco bid a significant edge. Huff added that Phelps Dodge may have been more interested in securing Falconbridge's copper assets than Inco's nickel production. "There are a lot of companies around the world...that want to increase exposure in dollar-denominated production," he said adding: "They are strengthening their copper stable and are getting into diversification at the same time." The bulk of the Canadian companies' production is located in North America. Miners in Australia and South Africa say they have not been able to cash in on soaring metals prices because the dollar has fallen in value against their domestic currencies, so reducing profits. UK equity markets rose, lifted by the mining sector, led by Kazakhmys, as hopes for consolidation were boosted by the Phelps Dodge bid. Fed sets the tone Markets were thin ahead of a US Federal Reserve meeting later this week. Analysts expect a quarter of a percentage point rise in US interest rates to 5.25%, but precious metals dealers noted speculation the Fed might increase rates by 50 basis points. "It is too early to say which way metals will swing in the short term, but we look to US economic developments - in particular the Fed policy statement out on Thursday - to set the tone," Man Financial said in a daily note. Aluminium was up $23 at $2,472 a tonne from the London close, while zinc was up $60 at $2,920. In other commodities, oil inched down after signs of increased Iraqi production but held just below $71 a barrel, supported by growing US gasoline demand despite near-record prices, while gold edged up to $584.00/oz. --- In
[obrolan-bandar] Indo Outlook....(to mr guntur)
Saya senang dg tulisan anda yg mengcombine antara FA dan Economic Macro. Melengkapi analysis gaya Intelijen (by Mr Oentoeng), Phsycology Bandar(by maestro Embah), konservative prudent (by Mr EKA)...dkkKira2 dlm 6bln -1 thn kedepan, bagaimana pandangan investor luar thd perkembangan perekonomian Indonesia?. Sektor2 mana yg kira2 menjadi daya tarik terbesar?. PTBA, ANTM, BLTA, BMRI...what's the champ amongst them ?Thanks for the comment...Salam NewBie __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Business finance course Business to business finance Small business finance Business finance consultant Business finance magazine Business finance schools YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "obrolan-bandar" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
