Balasan: [obrolan-bandar] tgl 9 mei 2007, FED, asing mulai jualin Blue CHIPS

2007-05-01 Terurut Topik felix krisanto
Kayaknya udah mulai keliatan `effect`-nya tuh hari ini, siap2 ambil posisi 
masing2 deh.

Siswantoro, Dodik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Jepang libur sampai tgl 
8 Mei 
Cina sampai 4 Mei

tgl 9 Mei 2007 rapat FED, (prediksi 40% kemungkinan
naik, dari money)

kalau SBI turun, FED tetap atau malah naik. spread
bunga akan kecil, ini yg cukup bahaya ... he he

siap2 dengan kejutan, 

kalau baca di koran kontan asing banyak yg jualin blu
chips mulai kemarin ..

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Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] INDEX - DISTRIBUSI

2007-05-01 Terurut Topik felix krisanto
Let`s us see !!!

James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Bung Andri, 
   
  Ada kemungkinan sebentar lagi mau PESTA MERAH MERIAH ... siap-siap yah 
nampungin di bawah. Target indeks nggak jauh2 deh cukup ke 1820 aja biar entar 
naiknya enak
  

 
  On 5/2/07, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sudah 3-4 hari 
ini, value BESAR tapi INDEX gak naik. apakah ini DISTRIBUSI? atau FORMASI X? 
apakah kejadian TAHUN kemarin berULANG TAHUN di tahun ini. BE CAREFUL.
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Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kayaknya ada yg aneh....

2007-05-01 Terurut Topik felix krisanto
Hhaha.. capek ngelototin `running trade`, sekali2 istirahat lagian cuannya dah 
gede kan? :) 

Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  udah panik, HOTS hari ini 
DELAYED teruz sampai 5 menit BID OFFER jadi bingung
lebih baik ISTIRAHAT dulu saja kayaknya.

  On 5/2/07, James Arifin  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:rada2 panik 
jualan ... siap2 untuk koreksi nih ke 1820.

  On 5/2/07, fei_lix22 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: gw curiga, kok 
aneh ya pergerakan indeks? kayaknya agak kurang normal, 
spt rada2 panic,..








  






  

 

   
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Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BULLISH 2 BULAN....Re: Sepi...

2007-04-30 Terurut Topik felix krisanto
Tapi pak James, permaslahannya apakah ini ditempuh dlm waktu dekat atau `long 
term target` iya kan?, banyk sekali rekan2 yg skrg sudah `phobia- ketinggian` 
termasuk saya, hhehe..:) any comments pak J.A?

James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:mbah, 
   
  kalau lihat hitungan mbah untuk SEMPROTAN pak EW ... indeks bisa ke 3000 tuh 
... gila tenan ... wave I aja sudah segede itu apalagi wave III

 
  On 4/29/07, Embah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Embah kirimkan lagi 
grafik IHSG tapi dilengkapi dgn SEMPROTAN pak EW supaya
lebih jelas...

Embah wrote:

 Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Re: BULLISH 2 BULANRe: Sepi...

 tarikan mbah untuk menentukan sampai di level mana retracement akan stop 
 bukan naik. apa ini tanda2 dari mbah bahwa indeks akan koreksi ...

 On 4/28/07, Josia [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

 grapik teknikal bandarmologis dan yang konservapaitf beda kayaknya om
 james :D

 pis ah
 - Original Message -
 From: James Arifin
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 10:37 PM 
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Re: BULLISH 2 BULANRe: Sepi...

 Mbah, apa nggak salah tuh tarikan FIBO-nya, rasanya aneh deh

 On 4/28/07, Embah  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 Embah lampirkan target IHSG berdasarkan:
 - Channeling gerakan gelombang dan
 - Angka Fibonaci...








  

 

   
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Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Indication of the end of bull run?

2007-04-30 Terurut Topik felix krisanto
Ms.Bettina Tan, Eventhough we are very selective in buying stocks, but when the 
market is going down (as you said : the end of bull run), the price will also 
go down and we`ll take cap. loss. I think the better choice is don`t buy 
anything,. just wait and see first, right? it`s useless, wasting time  money 
if we buy some `good stocks` but they are go contrary against our analysis. 
what do u think??   

Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  pendapat dan view saya : HATI 
- HATI saja, BECOME SMART TRADER.
up vs down = 104 : 68, index -15.

  On 4/30/07, Bettina Tan  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Today we have 
seen most second liners up significantly, while blue chips are hardly hit. 
Usually this phenomena is the sign of the end of bull run. This phenomenon also 
backed up by sign of weaker economic data in US, Japan, China and most recently 
in Singapore. Just be wise and very selective in buying stock. What others 
think? I will be happy to share opinion. 






  

 

   
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Balasan: [obrolan-bandar] GARA GARA TUKANG UDANG (CPRO), ETRADING DISCONNET JAM 14.08

2007-04-30 Terurut Topik felix krisanto
Hahaha.Baru saja gw posting bang! macetnya pagi juga.
  Bukan tukang udang bang, tapi jualan lobster skrg, LAKU keras! sempet 
nyicipin?? Iya gimana ya HOTS ini, masa kita jadi penonton aja disaat lagi2 
rame, sistimnya kacau.. dimana nih pihak manajemennya pura2 ga` tau atau emang 
harus demikian ya kalau kita koneksi via internet? masih oke rti tuh..

helmi setiawan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Yang lain ada yg senasib?



 

   
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Balasan: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Telkom Indonesia's Profit Falls 12% on Rising Costs (Update2)

2007-04-29 Terurut Topik felix krisanto
Mbah,.. boleh dijelasin sekilas ngga` maksudnya apa toh?
  Penjelasannya pasti akan sangat usefull untuk kita,,:) tks
   
jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Sepertinya formasi X Blue-chip against saham Kecil

Mungkin antisipasi Hari Buruh 1 Mei besok...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Andri Wijaya 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 saham KECIL yang sangat BESAR persentase profit sudah berseliweran 
terus di
 depan mata
 saham-saham BLUECHIP dihajar, secara bandarmologi bagaimana ini MBAH
 
 
  On 4/30/07, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   11:05
  
   TLKM -200, IHSG -11...
  
   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com,
   jsx_consultant jsx-
   consultant@ wrote:
   
9:23
   
Telkom Indonesia's Profit Falls 12% on Rising Costs (Update2)
   
By Arijit Ghosh
   
April 30 (Bloomberg) -- PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia, the 
nation's
biggest company by market value, reported first-quarter 
profit fell
12 percent as higher costs of using rivals' networks offset 
gains
   in
subscribers at its mobile-phone unit.
   
  
   
  
 
 




 

   
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Balasan: Re: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] HF maturity?

2007-04-27 Terurut Topik felix krisanto
yupz,begitu toh.. tapi mjd semakin bingung deh apakah nantinya ada pengaruh ke 
index? ---  Mbah dimana ya... dlm posting dan perkiraanya akan mgkin tjd 
bullish dlm 2 bln, nah ini baru 1 blnan, posisi apa yg seharusnya kita ambil 
ya?   

Oskar Syahbana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  hedge fund maturity, ketika 
para hedge fund narik dana mereka. Biasanya bukan untuk disetor ke investor 
tapi sekadar untuk accounting (tutup buku). Saya mungkin salah, bagaimana 
dengan yang lain?

  On 4/27/07, felix krisanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
Mr. Arifin jd wait see dulu aja ya? apa tu pak HF maturity/ awal mei, bisa 
dijelaskan sedikit? thanks...
James Arifin james.arifin@ gmail.com wrote:
  thanks boss ... 600bio sudah menguasai lebih dari 25% market ... :)) 
makanya beli ANTM seperti orang kesurupan yah ... hit two price directly ... 
cheers, wong saya posisinya lagi adem2 nungguin awal Mei saat HF maturity 

  On 4/26/07, Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: Hi...hi

Mr Arifeen.

whatever will be.

My friends (foreigners) buy more than Rp 600 bio today.

So tomorrow.   ? 

TGIF

  - Original Message  
From: James Arifin james.arifin@ gmail.com
To: obrolan bandar  obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 26 April 2007 3:49:24PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Besok JUMAT

Ingat besok Jum'at. Hari ini harap perhatikan jarak high dan close. Semoga 
kekhawatiran saya akan koreksi dalam tidak terjadi besok. Saya ingat kejadian 
waktu indeks tembus 1250 dengan sedikit dipaksakan mengakibatkan koreksi cukup 
dalam ke 950an. Sekarang 2005 kalau turun hingga 1820, cukup lumayan dalam loh 






  
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Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] DON'T SHORT!! .

2007-04-27 Terurut Topik felix krisanto
wah Mr.FS selalu tertawa hehehehe... hebat ya, keep cool even the market is 
still going,stayed in his own anlysis.. jangan2 Mr. FS emang big player sesuai 
dgn namanya, bagi2lah kalo ada bocorannya pak...:) 

Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  hehehehe...nice nice.

Swing Trader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   mungkin sekali ini apa yang 
ditulis Bettina Tan TERJADI,
dulu dia pernah peringatin tentang market down and it happen.
SHORT . SHORT  
in the market, there is a bullish and there is bearish,
sometimes people BUY like crazy man and 
never THINK what will happen when the market against him
MARGIN CALL, that's the answer
and people will SELL his stock crazily too
DON'T BE STUPID, BE CLEVER
NEVER TRUST ANYBODY IN THE WILD WORLD EVEN HE IS A BIG PLAYER 


  On 4/27/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  hehehehehehe.. what a tireless effort you said this since the main 
index at 1790
  hehehehehe

Bettina Tan bettina.tan@ gmail.com wrote:
  Again, because people are too optimistic, they leverage too high, money 
have been put in the market even margin facility have used to the limit. Then 
the condition is used by big FM put the contrarian position. 

  On 4/27/07, Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: PRICE = 
PERCEPTION

If you  believemarket still grow up Don't short!
But if you believe... market will be down sell out. 

If you are big investor it doesn't matter. but if you are small investor.. you 
will buy in the high.

My GURU said NEVER SHORT THE TREND

Shorting the trend refers to sell short when a new high is reached in the stock 
market, or, in an individual stock, when the trend has been definitely upward. 
The investor making a large gamble that market will turn and decline. 
The market and the stock might turn or not turn. The fact is stocks tend to 
move as a group, and trends tend to continue.

  - Original Message  
From: Bettina Tan bettina.tan@ gmail.com
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 27 April 2007 9:45:11AM 
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] SHORT!! lock your profit.

NOW.. 



 


  
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Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] welehh... CPRO !!!

2007-04-27 Terurut Topik felix krisanto
maksudnya trading room=galery ya?  but kadang2 juga yg namanya berita suka 
lambet, emang kita diminta hrs spekulasi kayaknya.., makanya i ingin ber? 
apakah mungkin kita bisa dapet rumor/berita dg cepat? gimana caranya (selain 
dari chart/tren dr shm itu sendiri)?, kalo temen2 milis tau, bagi dong infonya 
hehe...  tks ya

GhuztLenQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  harus nongkrong di trading room 
pak. biar kedengaran hebohnya.. dan ngikuut. 
tapi kalau eceran seperti saya..., ya hanya bisa manyun pas ngecek lagi kok 
udah ada yg pergi ke langitan

  On 4/27/07, fei_lix22 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:wuihh, cpro FLY? 
apakah kontrak dipasena jadi ya??
hik..hik.. emang susah klo dapet `related info`-nya telat!
oh iya rekan2 gimana-lah ya supaya kita itu bisa dapet info lebih 
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Balasan: [obrolan-bandar] CPRO-W buah kesabaran selama 5 bulan....

2007-04-27 Terurut Topik felix krisanto
selamat deh pak..! traktir makan ya hehe..(kenal ngga`?), canda :). akhirnya 
kebalas juga tuh lossnya. btw.. pak AJP ada kasih data BIN bersangkutan dgn 
cpro ya?  gw keki abis pak, maslahnya waktu itu dah dijual di price 215-an, 
dikit kali cuannya, cm cukup buat makan sendirian pak, hehe...
  lain kali bagi2 ya pak infonya, tks

macan cuan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  All,..
sekedar sharing...ini yg terjadi pada saya sewaktu CPRO, pertama listing di 
BEJ. Saya beli warrant-nya CPRO-W di hari pertama waktu itu spekulasi, beli 
average di  harga 160, karena hari pertama lgs lompat ga keruan,.1000 lot.

Hari kedua apa yg terjadi ??? harga sempet naik 175 menjadikan hati 
berbunga2...tapi setelah itu kebakaran lalu gosong setelah 4 bulan harga 
jongkok di harga 80 bahkan sempet ke 70-an,...pakai margin lagi,
akhirnya terpaksa direlakan jual dengan average di harga 80-an. berarti hilang 
sama sekali modalnyanet loss 40 jeti.

begitu mendeganr isu2 baik,., nambah account, beli lagi 2000 lot average di 
harga 78.

Diemin ajasampai tadi jual average di harga 280.

Awal Mei lumayan bisa makai mobil baru,...hehhee.dan tidak lupa utk 
berderma, infaq.

tribute to Pak AJP dg data BIN-nya, teman-teman di forum etc, ]
God bless you all.
salam cuan, .

fei_lix22 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  wuihh, cpro FLY? apakah kontrak 
dipasena jadi ya??
hik..hik.. emang susah klo dapet `related info`-nya telat!
oh iya rekan2 gimana-lah ya supaya kita itu bisa dapet info lebih 
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Balasan: Re: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] DON'T SHORT!! .

2007-04-27 Terurut Topik felix krisanto
thanks Mr.FS, we`ll wait the next news.., btw... do u think that`s a good idea 
if we enter some good stocks now? or it`s better if we just stay, waitsee 
the market for next days.. honestly some of us,of course, got already confused 
and in doubt in entering the market.., any opinions? ... have a nice weekend 
!!!  

Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:i did...several 
times...giving you all here some infos... which were good for long term 
players...
  anyway, the main index today may be closed at another fresh RECORD HIGH.

felix krisanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  wah Mr.FS selalu tertawa hehehehe... hebat ya, keep cool even the market 
is still going,stayed in his own anlysis.. jangan2 Mr. FS emang big player 
sesuai dgn namanya, bagi2lah kalo ada bocorannya pak...:) 

Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   hehehehe...nice nice.

Swing Trader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   mungkin sekali ini apa yang 
ditulis Bettina Tan TERJADI,
dulu dia pernah peringatin tentang market down and it happen.
SHORT . SHORT  
in the market, there is a bullish and there is bearish,
sometimes people BUY like crazy man and 
never THINK what will happen when the market against him
MARGIN CALL, that's the answer
and people will SELL his stock crazily too
DON'T BE STUPID, BE CLEVER
NEVER TRUST ANYBODY IN THE WILD WORLD EVEN HE IS A BIG PLAYER 


  On 4/27/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  hehehehehehe.. what a tireless effort you said this since the main 
index at 1790
  hehehehehe

Bettina Tan bettina.tan@ gmail.com wrote:
  Again, because people are too optimistic, they leverage too high, money 
have been put in the market even margin facility have used to the limit. Then 
the condition is used by big FM put the contrarian position. 

  On 4/27/07, Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: PRICE = 
PERCEPTION

If you  believemarket still grow up Don't short!
But if you believe... market will be down sell out. 

If you are big investor it doesn't matter. but if you are small investor.. you 
will buy in the high.

My GURU said NEVER SHORT THE TREND

Shorting the trend refers to sell short when a new high is reached in the stock 
market, or, in an individual stock, when the trend has been definitely upward. 
The investor making a large gamble that market will turn and decline. 
The market and the stock might turn or not turn. The fact is stocks tend to 
move as a group, and trends tend to continue.

  - Original Message  
From: Bettina Tan bettina.tan@ gmail.com
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 27 April 2007 9:45:11AM 
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] SHORT!! lock your profit.

NOW.. 



 


  
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Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] HF maturity?

2007-04-26 Terurut Topik felix krisanto

Mr. Arifin jd wait see dulu aja ya? apa tu pak HF maturity/ awal mei, bisa 
dijelaskan sedikit? thanks...
James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  thanks boss ... 600bio sudah menguasai lebih dari 25% market ... :)) 
makanya beli ANTM seperti orang kesurupan yah ... hit two price directly ... 
cheers, wong saya posisinya lagi adem2 nungguin awal Mei saat HF maturity

  On 4/26/07, Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi...hi

Mr Arifeen.

whatever will be.

My friends (foreigners) buy more than Rp 600 bio today.

So tomorrow.   ? 

TGIF

  - Original Message 
From: James Arifin james.arifin@ gmail.com
To: obrolan bandar obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 26 April 2007 3:49:24PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Besok JUMAT

Ingat besok Jum'at. Hari ini harap perhatikan jarak high dan close. Semoga 
kekhawatiran saya akan koreksi dalam tidak terjadi besok. Saya ingat kejadian 
waktu indeks tembus 1250 dengan sedikit dipaksakan mengakibatkan koreksi cukup 
dalam ke 950an. Sekarang 2005 kalau turun hingga 1820, cukup lumayan dalam loh 






  
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