[ob] Re: IHSG sesi1 : Day trade speculation : kang ocoy

2010-02-08 Terurut Topik kucing_liar1

well kok yah kalu si Akang sudah ngeluarin jurus optimisnya biasanya dihajar 
ampe babak belur yak...at least 2 kali yg ane perhatiin 

apa karena pendapat si Akang di anggap pendapat gajah lawanatau si Akang yg 
individual teorinya canggih banget tp kepleset salah baca global market? 
heheehhe


 --- On Mon, 2/8/10, Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@... wrote:
 
 From: Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@...
 Subject: Re: [ob] Re: IHSG sesi1 : Day trade speculation
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 2:56 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   
 
 Data Dirjen Pengelolaan Utang per posisi penutupan 5 Februari. Asing masih 
 pegang posisi paling banyak di SUN Indonesia dan jumlahnya tidak berubah ( No 
 Outflow di hari jumat ), dikonfirmasi dengan posisi Yield tengah-belakang 
 yang tidak naik lebih dari 10 Bps.
 
  
 Equity?! well, idunno with u guys but some counter already are within 8-9 % 
 FCF 010 Yield. 
 
 On 8 February 2010 14:18, Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com wrote:
 
 
   
 
 
 
 Lah saya cuma guyon koq...ane mah santai aja... 
 
 
 
 On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 2:17 PM, jacob oen oenja...@yahoo. com wrote:
 
 
   
 
 
 
 Nasib BAIK, nasib BURUK siapa yang tahu?
 
 What will happen next? No one knows! Just let it be, we have no control upon 
 it. Apalagi stock market.!!!
 
 
 
 Sent from my XL BlackBerry®
 
 Effort only fully releases its reward after a person refuses to quit.+++
 Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who 
 hustle.+++
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com 
 Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:11:08 +0700
 
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Subject: Re: [ob] Re: IHSG sesi1 : Day trade speculation
 
   
 
 KALO mantul besok...hehe
 
 
 On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Dod kido...@yahoo. com wrote:
 
 
   
 
 
 
 bagi yg mau CL tanggung ya? nunggu mantul besok
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ 
 ... wrote:
 
  IHSG sesi 1 : Day trade speculation
 
  
  http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwihsgzz1. png 
 
  
  Ada 4 Support Level:
  - Lower channel line
  - Previous Low
  - Fibo 62% of Wave 5
  - Fibo 162% of Wave A
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the 
 complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact, 
 everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that 
 we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only to 
 be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected... The test of all 
 knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific 
 “truth”. - Richard Feynman





Re: [ob] Re: IHSG sesi1 : Day trade speculation : kang ocoy

2010-02-08 Terurut Topik Bagus Putra Perdana
Dihajar tuh maksudnya diturunin ke bawah?. ya gapapa toh, malah seneng ngisi
barang di harga yang lebih baik. kalo perlu minta cash lagi. biar gak usah
ikut lelang tanggal 9. turun gak perlu jual toh?. yang penting
nanti akhirnya beat index jadi gak diomelin atasan, yang penting overall
harga pokok perolehan portfolio saham, FCF Yield nya masih diatas Yield FR
51 yang sekarang cuman 8.5%. kalo turun lagi?. beli lagi lah. Deposito
ada., bunga cuman berapa % sekarang deposito, SUN masih banyak, Obligasi
Korporasi AA beli taon kemaren kuponnya masih dapet diayas 13.5%. sekarang
mo 11.5% aja susah bener. Equity turun 10 % lagi dari sekarang aja udah
kasih 9-10% FCF Yield. ya beli lagi lah. justru metode saya gak ribet dan
canggih yang saya perhatikan cuman hal-hal simpel berikut ini ;

Free Cash Flow dari Saham yang saya beli di level sustainable-nya.

Di Compare sama Yield Govt Bond, dan Yield Govt Bond ini diperhatikan sambil
cek perubahan kurva, kurs tukar sama premi CDS.

Kalo Sepengelihatan saya Yield tidak naik tajam, porsi kepemilikan asing
tidak ada flight, kurs tidak drop signifikan, premi CDS tidak naik tajam.

yaudah, FCF Yield makin gede, ya makin intres lah. lagian base value saya
kan masih banyak di harga bawah, berubah arah dan angka variabel makronya
berubah sehingga memaksa saya rubah asumsi ya tinggal jualan aja toh. yg
penting kan masih lebar untungnya dari harga pokok.

On 8 February 2010 15:35, kucing_liar1 kucing_li...@yahoo.com wrote:




 well kok yah kalu si Akang sudah ngeluarin jurus optimisnya biasanya
 dihajar ampe babak belur yak...at least 2 kali yg ane perhatiin 

 apa karena pendapat si Akang di anggap pendapat gajah lawanatau si
 Akang yg individual teorinya canggih banget tp kepleset salah baca global
 market? heheehhe

  --- On Mon, 2/8/10, Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@... wrote:
 
  From: Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@...

  Subject: Re: [ob] Re: IHSG sesi1 : Day trade speculation
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
  Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 2:56 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Â

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Data Dirjen Pengelolaan Utang per posisi penutupan 5 Februari. Asing
 masih pegang posisi paling banyak di SUN Indonesia dan jumlahnya tidak
 berubah ( No Outflow di hari jumat ), dikonfirmasi dengan posisi Yield
 tengah-belakang yang tidak naik lebih dari 10 Bps.
 
  Â

  Equity?! well, idunno with u guys but some counter already are within 8-9
 % FCF 010 Yield.
 
  On 8 February 2010 14:18, Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  Â
 
 
 
  Lah saya cuma guyon koq...ane mah santai aja...
 
 
 
  On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 2:17 PM, jacob oen oenja...@yahoo. com wrote:
 
 
  Â
 
 
 
  Nasib BAIK, nasib BURUK siapa yang tahu?
 
  What will happen next? No one knows! Just let it be, we have no control
 upon it. Apalagi stock market.!!!
 
 
 
  Sent from my XL BlackBerry®

 
  Effort only fully releases its reward after a person refuses to quit.+++
  Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who
 hustle.+++
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com
  Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:11:08 +0700
 
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  Subject: Re: [ob] Re: IHSG sesi1 : Day trade speculation
 
  Â
 
  KALO mantul besok...hehe
 
 
  On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Dod kido...@yahoo. com wrote:
 
 
  Â
 
 
 
  bagi yg mau CL tanggung ya? nunggu mantul besok
 
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant
 jsx-consultant@ ... wrote:
  
   IHSG sesi 1 : Day trade speculation
 
  
   http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwihsgzz1. png
 
  
   Ada 4 Support Level:
   - Lower channel line
   - Previous Low
   - Fibo 62% of Wave 5
   - Fibo 162% of Wave A
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
  --
  Sent from my coal-powered phone.
 
 
 
 
 
 
  --
  Sent from my coal-powered phone.
 
 
 
 
 
  --
  Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to
 the complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact,
 everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that
 we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only
 to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected... The test of
 all knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific
 “truth†. - Richard Feynman
 

  




-- 
Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the
complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact,
everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that
we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only
to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all
knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”.
- Richard Feynman