[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik y_dizz
BDnya lagi stress. Tolong..!!!

Regards,
Yudizz



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consult...@... wrote:

 IHSG hari ini
 
 
 http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwihsg.htm





RE: [SPAM][obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik Aria Bela Nusa
Sesuai dg sifat kebo 'tanah' (bukan kebo api) - agak malas2an + lagian 'kan
ini taon kebo (ox) bukannya banteng (bull), yah

 

 

 

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On Behalf Of y_dizz
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:02 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SPAM][obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

 

BDnya lagi stress. Tolong..!!!

Regards,
Yudizz

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mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , jsx_consultant jsx-
consult...@... wrote:

 IHSG hari ini
 
 
 http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwihsg.htm


 



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik Big Fat
Mbah, DJ and regional ijo tebel aja, IHSG cuma +3, gimana kl DJ and regional 
merah yah. kita bisa berdarah2 kali.
 
Jadi inget lagu yang syairnya: mengapa terjadi pada diriku (diganti jadi pada 
BEI). Aku tak percaya, ...
 
Mohon petunjuk ya Mbah.

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From: y_dizz y_d...@mail2web.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 9:02 AM






BDnya lagi stress. Tolong..!!!

Regards,
Yudizz

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consult...@. .. wrote:

 IHSG hari ini
 
 
 http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwihsg.htm


 














  

Re: [SPAM][obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik Adit
kerbau, bukan banteng, jadi harus kerja keras untuk sukses,
bukan banteng yang aduan/pacuan

2009/1/29 Aria Bela Nusa ariab...@centrin.net.id

Sesuai dg sifat kebo 'tanah' (bukan kebo api) – agak malas2an + lagian
 'kan ini taon kebo (*ox*) bukannya banteng (*bull*), yah







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 BDnya lagi stress. Tolong..!!!

 Regards,
 Yudizz

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 jsx_consultant jsx-
 consult...@... wrote:
 
  IHSG hari ini
 
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik dholiaq
Moga2x berani tampil beda ya ...

-Original Message-
From: Big Fat bigfat...@yahoo.com

Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:07:40 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini


Mbah, DJ and regional ijo tebel aja, IHSG cuma +3, gimana kl DJ and regional 
merah yah. kita bisa berdarah2 kali.
 
Jadi inget lagu yang syairnya: mengapa terjadi pada diriku (diganti jadi pada 
BEI). Aku tak percaya, ...
 
Mohon petunjuk ya Mbah.

--- On Thu, 1/29/09, y_dizz y_d...@mail2web.com wrote:

From: y_dizz y_d...@mail2web.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 9:02 AM






BDnya lagi stress. Tolong..!!!

Regards,
Yudizz

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx-
consult...@. .. wrote:

 IHSG hari ini
 
 
 http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwihsg.htm


 














  


RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik Harris Pranata Wijaya
kl mnrt saya sih, ihsg cm naek dikit soalnya kmr2 pas dow minus banyak,
ihsg cm minus dikit, jadi kayaknya tuh skr ini range-nya ihsg lebih
sempit drpd dow...

Regards, 
Harris 



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Big Fat
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:08 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

 

Mbah, DJ and regional ijo tebel aja, IHSG cuma +3, gimana kl DJ and
regional merah yah. kita bisa berdarah2 kali.

 

Jadi inget lagu yang syairnya: mengapa terjadi pada diriku (diganti jadi
pada BEI). Aku tak percaya, ...

 

Mohon petunjuk ya Mbah.

--- On Thu, 1/29/09, y_dizz y_d...@mail2web.com wrote:

From: y_dizz y_d...@mail2web.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 9:02 AM

BDnya lagi stress. Tolong..!!!

Regards,
Yudizz

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , jsx_consultant jsx-
consult...@. .. wrote:

 IHSG hari ini
 
 
 http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwihsg.htm
http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwihsg.htm 


 

 



[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Big Fat bigfat...@... wrote:

 Mbah, DJ and regional ijo tebel aja, IHSG cuma +3, gimana kl DJ and
regional merah yah. kita bisa berdarah2 kali.
  
 Jadi inget lagu yang syairnya: mengapa terjadi pada diriku (diganti
jadi pada BEI). Aku tak percaya, ...
  
 Mohon petunjuk ya Mbah.


Suatu saham bergerak mengikuti FAKTOR2:
- Fundamental saham itu sendiri dan
- Market (=index)

Saat ini:
- Market Global bergerak NAIK tapi
- Harga comodity seperti minyak dan cpo TURUN.

Jadi Faktor penggerak nya MIXED, yg satu POSITIF dan yg satu lagi
NEGATIF.

Sebenarnya BD nyangkut dikomoditi yg dibeli pada hari pertama
sesudah imlek, mungkin tidak 100% nyangkut tapi masih untung.
Jadi pada hari ke 2 dan ke 3 mereka berusaha JUAL. Ini yg
mengakibatkan IHSG susah naik.

Tapi kalo global market index masih bisa naik, maka saham masih
bisa naik karena FAKTOR GLOBAL MARKET LEBIH DOMINAN.

Jika DJI masih bisa naik lagi maka para FM akan balik MEMBELI
HIGH YIELD EQUITY seperti saham BEI karena High Yield
Equity RISK menjadi kecil.

Note:
- Ada lagi tambahan MARKET RISK BEI dihubungkan dengan RESIKO
  yg berhubungan dengan Anggota Bursa yg saat ini beritanya
  lagi gencar di Expose.

Kita ikutin aja gerakan KEBO OBAMA...

Pokonya: Yes, We Can...

Kalo gagalpun, resiko kita TERUKUR: CL di 1307 engga usah STRESS..

http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwihsg.htm




 --- On Thu, 1/29/09, y_dizz y_d...@... wrote:

 From: y_dizz y_d...@...
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 9:02 AM






 BDnya lagi stress. Tolong..!!!

 Regards,
 Yudizz

 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx-
 consultant@ .. wrote:
 
  IHSG hari ini
 
 
  http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwihsg.htm
 





[SPAM][obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik agoes_htm
Kelihatannya besok pagi bisa merah dulu index kita... saat itu baru
ambil posisi.


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wrote:

 Sesuai dg sifat kebo 'tanah' (bukan kebo api) - agak malas2an +
lagian 'kan
 ini taon kebo (ox) bukannya banteng (bull), yah
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
 On Behalf Of y_dizz
 Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:02 PM
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [SPAM][obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
 
  
 
 BDnya lagi stress. Tolong..!!!
 
 Regards,
 Yudizz
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , jsx_consultant jsx-
 consultant@ wrote:
 
  IHSG hari ini
  
  
  http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwihsg.htm
 





Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik ruzli
Mbah, Nanti malam di US ada Jobless Claim Report dan Home Sales Report ..
Besok sore ada Bankers Dinner
Senin, 2 Jan 09 Pengumuman Inflasi oleh BPS
Rabu, 4 Jan 09 Pengumuman BI Rate

BBRI sudah jalan duluan keretanya.
Kalau saya perhatikan, BBRI dan BBCA suka dibuat menurunkan/menaikan Indeks.

Jangan lupa pengumuman Lap Keuangan Q4 08.
Apakah ada yg tahu untuk Jadwal Pengumuman LK Q4 PTBA, BBRI, UNTR, BBCA ???

2009/1/29, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id:

   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 Big Fat bigfat...@... wrote:
 
  Mbah, DJ and regional ijo tebel aja, IHSG cuma +3, gimana kl DJ and
 regional merah yah. kita bisa berdarah2 kali.
 
  Jadi inget lagu yang syairnya: mengapa terjadi pada diriku (diganti
 jadi pada BEI). Aku tak percaya, ...
 
  Mohon petunjuk ya Mbah.
 

 Suatu saham bergerak mengikuti FAKTOR2:
 - Fundamental saham itu sendiri dan
 - Market (=index)

 Saat ini:
 - Market Global bergerak NAIK tapi
 - Harga comodity seperti minyak dan cpo TURUN.

 Jadi Faktor penggerak nya MIXED, yg satu POSITIF dan yg satu lagi
 NEGATIF.

 Sebenarnya BD nyangkut dikomoditi yg dibeli pada hari pertama
 sesudah imlek, mungkin tidak 100% nyangkut tapi masih untung.
 Jadi pada hari ke 2 dan ke 3 mereka berusaha JUAL. Ini yg
 mengakibatkan IHSG susah naik.

 Tapi kalo global market index masih bisa naik, maka saham masih
 bisa naik karena FAKTOR GLOBAL MARKET LEBIH DOMINAN.

 Jika DJI masih bisa naik lagi maka para FM akan balik MEMBELI
 HIGH YIELD EQUITY seperti saham BEI karena High Yield
 Equity RISK menjadi kecil.

 Note:
 - Ada lagi tambahan MARKET RISK BEI dihubungkan dengan RESIKO
 yg berhubungan dengan Anggota Bursa yg saat ini beritanya
 lagi gencar di Expose.

 Kita ikutin aja gerakan KEBO OBAMA...

 Pokonya: Yes, We Can...

 Kalo gagalpun, resiko kita TERUKUR: CL di 1307 engga usah STRESS..

 http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwihsg.htm


  --- On Thu, 1/29/09, y_dizz y_d...@... wrote:
 
  From: y_dizz y_d...@...
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
  Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 9:02 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
  BDnya lagi stress. Tolong..!!!
 
  Regards,
  Yudizz
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx-
  consultant@ .. wrote:
  
   IHSG hari ini
  
  
   http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwihsg.htm
  
 

 



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik Dean Earwicker
Tambah lagi sukuk retail (obligasi syariah fixed rate 12% pa) peminatnya
cukup banyak. Selain relatif lebih aman dari saham, juga dijamin pemerintah
dan return lebih gede dari deposito, asal di hold sampe mature selama 3
tahun.

Kayanya ada skenario agar (pengelola) dana retail mau di arahkan ke situ
dulu. Jadi buat para sahamer sabar aja dulu. Tgl 30 besok launching, kita
lihat efeknya ke pasar saham.

Daripada bosen nungguin saham gak naek2..heheh..

Regards,
DE

2009/1/29 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Big Fat bigfat...@... wrote:
 
  Mbah, DJ and regional ijo tebel aja, IHSG cuma +3, gimana kl DJ and
 regional merah yah. kita bisa berdarah2 kali.
 
  Jadi inget lagu yang syairnya: mengapa terjadi pada diriku (diganti
 jadi pada BEI). Aku tak percaya, ...
 
  Mohon petunjuk ya Mbah.
 

 Suatu saham bergerak mengikuti FAKTOR2:
 - Fundamental saham itu sendiri dan
 - Market (=index)

 Saat ini:
 - Market Global bergerak NAIK tapi
 - Harga comodity seperti minyak dan cpo TURUN.

 Jadi Faktor penggerak nya MIXED, yg satu POSITIF dan yg satu lagi
 NEGATIF.

 Sebenarnya BD nyangkut dikomoditi yg dibeli pada hari pertama
 sesudah imlek, mungkin tidak 100% nyangkut tapi masih untung.
 Jadi pada hari ke 2 dan ke 3 mereka berusaha JUAL. Ini yg
 mengakibatkan IHSG susah naik.

 Tapi kalo global market index masih bisa naik, maka saham masih
 bisa naik karena FAKTOR GLOBAL MARKET LEBIH DOMINAN.

 Jika DJI masih bisa naik lagi maka para FM akan balik MEMBELI
 HIGH YIELD EQUITY seperti saham BEI karena High Yield
 Equity RISK menjadi kecil.

 Note:
 - Ada lagi tambahan MARKET RISK BEI dihubungkan dengan RESIKO
  yg berhubungan dengan Anggota Bursa yg saat ini beritanya
  lagi gencar di Expose.

 Kita ikutin aja gerakan KEBO OBAMA...

 Pokonya: Yes, We Can...

 Kalo gagalpun, resiko kita TERUKUR: CL di 1307 engga usah STRESS..

 http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwihsg.htm




  --- On Thu, 1/29/09, y_dizz y_d...@... wrote:
 
  From: y_dizz y_d...@...
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 9:02 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
  BDnya lagi stress. Tolong..!!!
 
  Regards,
  Yudizz
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx-
  consultant@ .. wrote:
  
   IHSG hari ini
  
  
   http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwihsg.htm
  
 



 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik Halim Mintareja
tambah seret aja ini likuiditas

btw...ada yang bisa kasih rekomendasi deposito ON CALL di bank-bank
pemerintah ??

atau bank swasta dengan penjaminan maksimum

kayaknya lebih enak duit ditaruh di sana sebagian dulu :D

thanks

2009/1/29 Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com

  Tambah lagi sukuk retail (obligasi syariah fixed rate 12% pa) peminatnya
 cukup banyak. Selain relatif lebih aman dari saham, juga dijamin pemerintah
 dan return lebih gede dari deposito, asal di hold sampe mature selama 3
 tahun.

 Kayanya ada skenario agar (pengelola) dana retail mau di arahkan ke situ
 dulu. Jadi buat para sahamer sabar aja dulu. Tgl 30 besok launching, kita
 lihat efeknya ke pasar saham.

 Daripada bosen nungguin saham gak naek2..heheh..

 Regards,
 DE

 2009/1/29 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Big Fat bigfat...@... wrote:
 
  Mbah, DJ and regional ijo tebel aja, IHSG cuma +3, gimana kl DJ and
 regional merah yah. kita bisa berdarah2 kali.
 
  Jadi inget lagu yang syairnya: mengapa terjadi pada diriku (diganti
 jadi pada BEI). Aku tak percaya, ...
 
  Mohon petunjuk ya Mbah.
 

 Suatu saham bergerak mengikuti FAKTOR2:
 - Fundamental saham itu sendiri dan
 - Market (=index)

 Saat ini:
 - Market Global bergerak NAIK tapi
 - Harga comodity seperti minyak dan cpo TURUN.

 Jadi Faktor penggerak nya MIXED, yg satu POSITIF dan yg satu lagi
 NEGATIF.

 Sebenarnya BD nyangkut dikomoditi yg dibeli pada hari pertama
 sesudah imlek, mungkin tidak 100% nyangkut tapi masih untung.
 Jadi pada hari ke 2 dan ke 3 mereka berusaha JUAL. Ini yg
 mengakibatkan IHSG susah naik.

 Tapi kalo global market index masih bisa naik, maka saham masih
 bisa naik karena FAKTOR GLOBAL MARKET LEBIH DOMINAN.

 Jika DJI masih bisa naik lagi maka para FM akan balik MEMBELI
 HIGH YIELD EQUITY seperti saham BEI karena High Yield
 Equity RISK menjadi kecil.

 Note:
 - Ada lagi tambahan MARKET RISK BEI dihubungkan dengan RESIKO
  yg berhubungan dengan Anggota Bursa yg saat ini beritanya
  lagi gencar di Expose.

 Kita ikutin aja gerakan KEBO OBAMA...

 Pokonya: Yes, We Can...

 Kalo gagalpun, resiko kita TERUKUR: CL di 1307 engga usah STRESS..

 http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwihsg.htm




  --- On Thu, 1/29/09, y_dizz y_d...@... wrote:
 
  From: y_dizz y_d...@...
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 9:02 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
  BDnya lagi stress. Tolong..!!!
 
  Regards,
  Yudizz
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx-
  consultant@ .. wrote:
  
   IHSG hari ini
  
  
   http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwihsg.htm
  
 



 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik Big Fat
ok Mbah, kl gitu maju terus pantang mundur deh. Tapi giaman mau buy kl peluru 
udah habis, jualan belum, ahhahaah. 
 
Tapi inget akta Mbah, jangan stress, ayo riding kebo sama2
 


--- On Thu, 1/29/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id wrote:

From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 9:29 AM






--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Big Fat bigfat...@. .. wrote:

 Mbah, DJ and regional ijo tebel aja, IHSG cuma +3, gimana kl DJ and 
regional merah yah. kita bisa berdarah2 kali.
  
 Jadi inget lagu yang syairnya: mengapa terjadi pada diriku (diganti 
jadi pada BEI). Aku tak percaya, ...
  
 Mohon petunjuk ya Mbah.
 

Suatu saham bergerak mengikuti FAKTOR2:
- Fundamental saham itu sendiri dan
- Market (=index)

Saat ini:
- Market Global bergerak NAIK tapi 
- Harga comodity seperti minyak dan cpo TURUN.

Jadi Faktor penggerak nya MIXED, yg satu POSITIF dan yg satu lagi
NEGATIF.

Sebenarnya BD nyangkut dikomoditi yg dibeli pada hari pertama
sesudah imlek, mungkin tidak 100% nyangkut tapi masih untung.
Jadi pada hari ke 2 dan ke 3 mereka berusaha JUAL. Ini yg 
mengakibatkan IHSG susah naik.

Tapi kalo global market index masih bisa naik, maka saham masih
bisa naik karena FAKTOR GLOBAL MARKET LEBIH DOMINAN.

Jika DJI masih bisa naik lagi maka para FM akan balik MEMBELI 
HIGH YIELD EQUITY seperti saham BEI karena High Yield
Equity RISK menjadi kecil.

Note:
- Ada lagi tambahan MARKET RISK BEI dihubungkan dengan RESIKO
yg berhubungan dengan Anggota Bursa yg saat ini beritanya
lagi gencar di Expose.

Kita ikutin aja gerakan KEBO OBAMA...

Pokonya: Yes, We Can...

Kalo gagalpun, resiko kita TERUKUR: CL di 1307 engga usah STRESS..

http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwihsg.htm


 --- On Thu, 1/29/09, y_dizz y_d...@... wrote:
 
 From: y_dizz y_d...@...
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 9:02 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 BDnya lagi stress. Tolong..!!!
 
 Regards,
 Yudizz
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx-
 consultant@ .. wrote:
 
  IHSG hari ini
  
  
  http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwihsg.htm
 


 














  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik Armando Anthony
Bank Kesejahteraan Pak, 14% p.a. . Year end closing kemaren saya pakai. on 
call. 7 hari aja, 2 minggu off, masuk lg minggu lalu, tadi pagi sdh kembali  
Tapi jangan sering2 pak, dan jangan terlalu banyak.

Danamon 12.5%? Mayapada 13%? International Bank rata2 pelit, 8-9% p.a. Mereka 
bilang krn international bank dg rating triple A atau AA.  Boleh aja sih bilang 
gitu.  Tapi crisis kali ini kan asalnya dr sana.  Lagian kalau international 
bank itu collaps disini, head officenya tidak punya kewajiban untuk bail out.  
Morality mungkin ya, tapi legally sptnya nggak.

Armando





From: Halim Mintareja hmin...@gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:14:04 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini


tambah seret aja ini likuiditas

btw...ada yang bisa kasih rekomendasi deposito ON CALL di bank-bank pemerintah 
??

atau bank swasta dengan penjaminan maksimum

kayaknya lebih enak duit ditaruh di sana sebagian dulu :D

thanks


2009/1/29 Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ gmail.com

Tambah lagi sukuk retail (obligasi syariah fixed rate 12% pa) peminatnya cukup 
banyak. Selain relatif lebih aman dari saham, juga dijamin pemerintah dan 
return lebih gede dari deposito, asal di hold sampe mature selama 3 tahun.

Kayanya ada skenario agar (pengelola) dana retail mau di arahkan ke situ 
dulu. Jadi buat para sahamer sabar aja dulu. Tgl 30 besok launching, kita lihat 
efeknya ke pasar saham.

Daripada bosen nungguin saham gak naek2..heheh. .

Regards,
DE


2009/1/29 jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Big Fat bigfat...@.. . wrote:

 Mbah, DJ and regional ijo tebel aja, IHSG cuma +3, gimana kl DJ and
regional merah yah. kita bisa berdarah2 kali.
  
 Jadi inget lagu yang syairnya: mengapa terjadi pada diriku (diganti
jadi pada BEI). Aku tak percaya, ...
  
 Mohon petunjuk ya Mbah.


Suatu saham bergerak mengikuti FAKTOR2:
- Fundamental saham itu sendiri dan
- Market (=index)

Saat ini:
- Market Global bergerak NAIK tapi
- Harga comodity seperti minyak dan cpo TURUN.

Jadi Faktor penggerak nya MIXED, yg satu POSITIF dan yg satu lagi
NEGATIF.

Sebenarnya BD nyangkut dikomoditi yg dibeli pada hari pertama
sesudah imlek, mungkin tidak 100% nyangkut tapi masih untung.
Jadi pada hari ke 2 dan ke 3 mereka berusaha JUAL. Ini yg
mengakibatkan IHSG susah naik.

Tapi kalo global market index masih bisa naik, maka saham masih
bisa naik karena FAKTOR GLOBAL MARKET LEBIH DOMINAN.

Jika DJI masih bisa naik lagi maka para FM akan balik MEMBELI
HIGH YIELD EQUITY seperti saham BEI karena High Yield
Equity RISK menjadi kecil.

Note:
- Ada lagi tambahan MARKET RISK BEI dihubungkan dengan RESIKO
 yg berhubungan dengan Anggota Bursa yg saat ini beritanya
 lagi gencar di Expose.

Kita ikutin aja gerakan KEBO OBAMA...

Pokonya: Yes, We Can...

Kalo gagalpun, resiko kita TERUKUR: CL di 1307 engga usah STRESS..


http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwihsg.htm




 --- On Thu, 1/29/09, y_dizz y_d...@... wrote:

 From: y_dizz y_d...@...

 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 9:02 AM






 BDnya lagi stress. Tolong..!!!

 Regards,
 Yudizz

 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx-
 consultant@ .. wrote:
 
  IHSG hari ini
 
 
  http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwihsg.htm
 




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[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik FromBuitenzorg
Edun euy cuma naik tipis banget hehehe, tapi kalo nanti malam DJ merah 
merona BD masih punya space lumayan buat bikin ijo sendirian :)

Rgrds

Big Fat bigfat...@... wrote:

 Mbah, DJ and regional ijo tebel aja, IHSG cuma +3, gimana kl DJ and 
regional merah yah. kita bisa berdarah2 kali.
  
 Jadi inget lagu yang syairnya: mengapa terjadi pada diriku (diganti 
jadi pada BEI). Aku tak percaya, ...
  
 Mohon petunjuk ya Mbah.




Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik Gambler.BEJ
Besok IHSG merah dengan gap down.

Big Fat wrote:
 ok Mbah, kl gitu maju terus pantang mundur deh. Tapi giaman mau buy kl 
 peluru udah habis, jualan belum, ahhahaah.
  
 Tapi inget akta Mbah, jangan stress, ayo riding kebo sama2
  


 --- On *Thu, 1/29/09, jsx_consultant 
 /jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id/* wrote:

 From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 9:29 AM

 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Big Fat bigfat...@.
 .. wrote:
 
  Mbah, DJ and regional ijo tebel aja, IHSG cuma +3, gimana kl DJ and
 regional merah yah. kita bisa berdarah2 kali.
   
  Jadi inget lagu yang syairnya: mengapa terjadi pada diriku (diganti
 jadi pada BEI). Aku tak percaya, ...
   
  Mohon petunjuk ya Mbah.
 

 Suatu saham bergerak mengikuti FAKTOR2:
 - Fundamental saham itu sendiri dan
 - Market (=index)

 Saat ini:
 - Market Global bergerak NAIK tapi
 - Harga comodity seperti minyak dan cpo TURUN.

 Jadi Faktor penggerak nya MIXED, yg satu POSITIF dan yg satu lagi
 NEGATIF.

 Sebenarnya BD nyangkut dikomoditi yg dibeli pada hari pertama
 sesudah imlek, mungkin tidak 100% nyangkut tapi masih untung.
 Jadi pada hari ke 2 dan ke 3 mereka berusaha JUAL. Ini yg
 mengakibatkan IHSG susah naik.

 Tapi kalo global market index masih bisa naik, maka saham masih
 bisa naik karena FAKTOR GLOBAL MARKET LEBIH DOMINAN.

 Jika DJI masih bisa naik lagi maka para FM akan balik MEMBELI
 HIGH YIELD EQUITY seperti saham BEI karena High Yield
 Equity RISK menjadi kecil.

 Note:
 - Ada lagi tambahan MARKET RISK BEI dihubungkan dengan RESIKO
 yg berhubungan dengan Anggota Bursa yg saat ini beritanya
 lagi gencar di Expose.

 Kita ikutin aja gerakan KEBO OBAMA...

 Pokonya: Yes, We Can...

 Kalo gagalpun, resiko kita TERUKUR: CL di 1307 engga usah STRESS..

 http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwihsg.htm
 http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwihsg.htm


  --- On Thu, 1/29/09, y_dizz y_d...@... wrote:
 
  From: y_dizz y_d...@...
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
  Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 9:02 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
  BDnya lagi stress. Tolong..!!!
 
  Regards,
  Yudizz
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx-
  consultant@ .. wrote:
  
   IHSG hari ini
  
  
   http://www.obrolanb http://www.obrolanb/ andar.com/ piwihsg.htm
  
 


  


[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik FromBuitenzorg
Upss..kayaknya kebalikannya tipis, BD punya space boss :)

Rgrds

Gambler.BEJ gambler@... wrote:

 Besok IHSG merah dengan gap down.
 
 Big Fat wrote:
  ok Mbah, kl gitu maju terus pantang mundur deh. Tapi giaman mau 
buy kl 
  peluru udah habis, jualan belum, ahhahaah.
   
  Tapi inget akta Mbah, jangan stress, ayo riding kebo sama2
   
 
 
  --- On *Thu, 1/29/09, jsx_consultant 
  /jsx-consult...@.../* wrote:
 
  From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@...
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 9:29 AM
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Big Fat bigfatong@
  .. wrote:
  
   Mbah, DJ and regional ijo tebel aja, IHSG cuma +3, gimana 
kl DJ and
  regional merah yah. kita bisa berdarah2 kali.

   Jadi inget lagu yang syairnya: mengapa terjadi pada diriku 
(diganti
  jadi pada BEI). Aku tak percaya, ...

   Mohon petunjuk ya Mbah.
  
 
  Suatu saham bergerak mengikuti FAKTOR2:
  - Fundamental saham itu sendiri dan
  - Market (=index)
 
  Saat ini:
  - Market Global bergerak NAIK tapi
  - Harga comodity seperti minyak dan cpo TURUN.
 
  Jadi Faktor penggerak nya MIXED, yg satu POSITIF dan yg satu 
lagi
  NEGATIF.
 
  Sebenarnya BD nyangkut dikomoditi yg dibeli pada hari pertama
  sesudah imlek, mungkin tidak 100% nyangkut tapi masih untung.
  Jadi pada hari ke 2 dan ke 3 mereka berusaha JUAL. Ini yg
  mengakibatkan IHSG susah naik.
 
  Tapi kalo global market index masih bisa naik, maka saham 
masih
  bisa naik karena FAKTOR GLOBAL MARKET LEBIH DOMINAN.
 
  Jika DJI masih bisa naik lagi maka para FM akan balik MEMBELI
  HIGH YIELD EQUITY seperti saham BEI karena High Yield
  Equity RISK menjadi kecil.
 
  Note:
  - Ada lagi tambahan MARKET RISK BEI dihubungkan dengan RESIKO
  yg berhubungan dengan Anggota Bursa yg saat ini beritanya
  lagi gencar di Expose.
 
  Kita ikutin aja gerakan KEBO OBAMA...
 
  Pokonya: Yes, We Can...
 
  Kalo gagalpun, resiko kita TERUKUR: CL di 1307 engga usah 
STRESS..
 
  http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwihsg.htm
  http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwihsg.htm
 
 
   --- On Thu, 1/29/09, y_dizz y_dizz@ wrote:
  
   From: y_dizz y_dizz@
   Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
   To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
   Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 9:02 AM
  
  
  
  
  
  
   BDnya lagi stress. Tolong..!!!
  
   Regards,
   Yudizz
  
   --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant 
jsx-
   consultant@ .. wrote:
   
IHSG hari ini
   
   
http://www.obrolanb http://www.obrolanb/ andar.com/ 
piwihsg.htm
   
  
 
 
 





[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik jkunci
Aromanya emang begitu, kita sering tampil beda sendiri. Tapi ok juga
kalo besok merah ruang buat masuk makin lebar bukan? 
Ati ati kata Embah batas 1307 tembus kita loncat keluar.

Salam,
jkunci
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, FromBuitenzorg
frombuitenz...@... wrote:

 Edun euy cuma naik tipis banget hehehe, tapi kalo nanti malam DJ merah 
 merona BD masih punya space lumayan buat bikin ijo sendirian :)
 
 Rgrds
 
 Big Fat bigfatong@ wrote:
 
  Mbah, DJ and regional ijo tebel aja, IHSG cuma +3, gimana kl DJ and 
 regional merah yah. kita bisa berdarah2 kali.
   
  Jadi inget lagu yang syairnya: mengapa terjadi pada diriku (diganti 
 jadi pada BEI). Aku tak percaya, ...
   
  Mohon petunjuk ya Mbah.





[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik FromBuitenzorg
Kalo saya pribadi batas 1310 saja, ...  selanjutnya ngacir dulu 
sambil ngintip peluang dicelah celah merah, kalo bisa

Rgrds

jkunci jku...@... wrote:

 Aromanya emang begitu, kita sering tampil beda sendiri. Tapi ok juga
 kalo besok merah ruang buat masuk makin lebar bukan? 
 Ati ati kata Embah batas 1307 tembus kita loncat keluar.
 
 Salam,
 jkunci
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, FromBuitenzorg
 frombuitenzorg@ wrote:
 
  Edun euy cuma naik tipis banget hehehe, tapi kalo nanti malam DJ 
merah 
  merona BD masih punya space lumayan buat bikin ijo sendirian :)
  
  Rgrds
  
  Big Fat bigfatong@ wrote:
  
   Mbah, DJ and regional ijo tebel aja, IHSG cuma +3, gimana kl DJ 
and 
  regional merah yah. kita bisa berdarah2 kali.
    
   Jadi inget lagu yang syairnya: mengapa terjadi pada diriku 
(diganti 
  jadi pada BEI). Aku tak percaya, ...
    
   Mohon petunjuk ya Mbah.
 





Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik JsxTrader™
1307 dgn 1310 beda tipis atuh Pak.. He


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-Original Message-
From: FromBuitenzorg frombuitenz...@yahoo.com

Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:41:23 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...


Kalo saya pribadi batas 1310 saja, ...  selanjutnya ngacir dulu 
sambil ngintip peluang dicelah celah merah, kalo bisa

Rgrds

jkunci jku...@... wrote:

 Aromanya emang begitu, kita sering tampil beda sendiri. Tapi ok juga
 kalo besok merah ruang buat masuk makin lebar bukan? 
 Ati ati kata Embah batas 1307 tembus kita loncat keluar.
 
 Salam,
 jkunci
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, FromBuitenzorg
 frombuitenzorg@ wrote:
 
  Edun euy cuma naik tipis banget hehehe, tapi kalo nanti malam DJ 
merah 
  merona BD masih punya space lumayan buat bikin ijo sendirian :)
  
  Rgrds
  
  Big Fat bigfatong@ wrote:
  
   Mbah, DJ and regional ijo tebel aja, IHSG cuma +3, gimana kl DJ 
and 
  regional merah yah. kita bisa berdarah2 kali.
    
   Jadi inget lagu yang syairnya: mengapa terjadi pada diriku 
(diganti 
  jadi pada BEI). Aku tak percaya, ...
    
   Mohon petunjuk ya Mbah.
 






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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik Tommy Jayamudita
Kekuatan IHSG naik atau turun esok 50-50, chart terlampir.






  - Original Message - 
  From: jkunci 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:25 PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...


  Aromanya emang begitu, kita sering tampil beda sendiri. Tapi ok juga
  kalo besok merah ruang buat masuk makin lebar bukan? 
  Ati ati kata Embah batas 1307 tembus kita loncat keluar.

  Salam,
  jkunci
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, FromBuitenzorg
  frombuitenz...@... wrote:
  
   Edun euy cuma naik tipis banget hehehe, tapi kalo nanti malam DJ merah 
   merona BD masih punya space lumayan buat bikin ijo sendirian :)
   
   Rgrds
   
   Big Fat bigfatong@ wrote:
   
Mbah, DJ and regional ijo tebel aja, IHSG cuma +3, gimana kl DJ and 
   regional merah yah. kita bisa berdarah2 kali.
 
Jadi inget lagu yang syairnya: mengapa terjadi pada diriku (diganti 
   jadi pada BEI). Aku tak percaya, ...
 
Mohon petunjuk ya Mbah.
  



   attachment: IHSG 29 jan'09.png

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik ::Pak_AA:
Pak DE.
Sukuk Retail itu pajaknya gimana?
Bisa gak dicairin sewaktu2 atau harus di-freeze 3 thn?
thanks

2009/1/29 Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com

  Tambah lagi sukuk retail (obligasi syariah fixed rate 12% pa) peminatnya
 cukup banyak. Selain relatif lebih aman dari saham, juga dijamin pemerintah
 dan return lebih gede dari deposito, asal di hold sampe mature selama 3
 tahun.

 Kayanya ada skenario agar (pengelola) dana retail mau di arahkan ke situ
 dulu. Jadi buat para sahamer sabar aja dulu. Tgl 30 besok launching, kita
 lihat efeknya ke pasar saham.

 Daripada bosen nungguin saham gak naek2..heheh..

 Regards,
 DE

 2009/1/29 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Big Fat bigfat...@... wrote:

 
  Mbah, DJ and regional ijo tebel aja, IHSG cuma +3, gimana kl DJ and
 regional merah yah. kita bisa berdarah2 kali.
 
  Jadi inget lagu yang syairnya: mengapa terjadi pada diriku (diganti
 jadi pada BEI). Aku tak percaya, ...
 
  Mohon petunjuk ya Mbah.
 

 Suatu saham bergerak mengikuti FAKTOR2:
 - Fundamental saham itu sendiri dan
 - Market (=index)

 Saat ini:
 - Market Global bergerak NAIK tapi
 - Harga comodity seperti minyak dan cpo TURUN.

 Jadi Faktor penggerak nya MIXED, yg satu POSITIF dan yg satu lagi
 NEGATIF.

 Sebenarnya BD nyangkut dikomoditi yg dibeli pada hari pertama
 sesudah imlek, mungkin tidak 100% nyangkut tapi masih untung.
 Jadi pada hari ke 2 dan ke 3 mereka berusaha JUAL. Ini yg
 mengakibatkan IHSG susah naik.

 Tapi kalo global market index masih bisa naik, maka saham masih
 bisa naik karena FAKTOR GLOBAL MARKET LEBIH DOMINAN.

 Jika DJI masih bisa naik lagi maka para FM akan balik MEMBELI
 HIGH YIELD EQUITY seperti saham BEI karena High Yield
 Equity RISK menjadi kecil.

 Note:
 - Ada lagi tambahan MARKET RISK BEI dihubungkan dengan RESIKO
  yg berhubungan dengan Anggota Bursa yg saat ini beritanya
  lagi gencar di Expose.

 Kita ikutin aja gerakan KEBO OBAMA...

 Pokonya: Yes, We Can...

 Kalo gagalpun, resiko kita TERUKUR: CL di 1307 engga usah STRESS..

 http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwihsg.htm




  --- On Thu, 1/29/09, y_dizz y_d...@... wrote:
 
  From: y_dizz y_d...@...
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 9:02 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
  BDnya lagi stress. Tolong..!!!
 
  Regards,
  Yudizz
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx-
  consultant@ .. wrote:
  
   IHSG hari ini
  
  
   http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwihsg.htm
  
 




[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik FromBuitenzorg
Iya boss memang tipis banget, tapi setidaknya nggak bablas makin 
bawah supaya kontrolnya pada range 1310 - 1315... hehehe

Regards


JsxTrader™ jsxtra...@... wrote

 1307 dgn 1310 beda tipis atuh Pak.. He
 
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: FromBuitenzorg frombuitenz...@...
 
 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:41:23 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...
 
 
 Kalo saya pribadi batas 1310 saja, ...  selanjutnya ngacir dulu 
 sambil ngintip peluang dicelah celah merah, kalo bisa
 
 Rgrds
 
 jkunci jkunci@ wrote:
 
  Aromanya emang begitu, kita sering tampil beda sendiri. Tapi ok 
juga
  kalo besok merah ruang buat masuk makin lebar bukan? 
  Ati ati kata Embah batas 1307 tembus kita loncat keluar.
  
  Salam,
  jkunci
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, FromBuitenzorg
  frombuitenzorg@ wrote:
  
   Edun euy cuma naik tipis banget hehehe, tapi kalo nanti malam 
DJ 
 merah 
   merona BD masih punya space lumayan buat bikin ijo sendirian :)
   
   Rgrds
   
   Big Fat bigfatong@ wrote:
   
Mbah, DJ and regional ijo tebel aja, IHSG cuma +3, gimana kl 
DJ 
 and 
   regional merah yah. kita bisa berdarah2 kali.
 
Jadi inget lagu yang syairnya: mengapa terjadi pada diriku 
 (diganti 
   jadi pada BEI). Aku tak percaya, ...
 
Mohon petunjuk ya Mbah.
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik Dean Earwicker
saran aja nih, baiknya dikasih ilustrasi bos, atau caption, atau text di
gambarnya. kaya yang mbah suka bikin.

Regards,
DE

Pada 29 Januari 2009 20:37, Tommy Jayamudita jayamud...@gmail.com menulis:

  Kekuatan IHSG naik atau turun esok 50-50, chart terlampir.







 - Original Message -
 *From:* jkunci jku...@yahoo.com
 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:25 PM
 *Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...

  Aromanya emang begitu, kita sering tampil beda sendiri. Tapi ok juga
 kalo besok merah ruang buat masuk makin lebar bukan?
 Ati ati kata Embah batas 1307 tembus kita loncat keluar.

 Salam,
 jkunci
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, FromBuitenzorg
 frombuitenz...@... wrote:
 
  Edun euy cuma naik tipis banget hehehe, tapi kalo nanti malam DJ merah
  merona BD masih punya space lumayan buat bikin ijo sendirian :)
 
  Rgrds
 
  Big Fat bigfatong@ wrote:
  
   Mbah, DJ and regional ijo tebel aja, IHSG cuma +3, gimana kl DJ and
  regional merah yah. kita bisa berdarah2 kali.
  
   Jadi inget lagu yang syairnya: mengapa terjadi pada diriku (diganti
  jadi pada BEI). Aku tak percaya, ...
  
   Mohon petunjuk ya Mbah.
 

 



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik JsxTrader™
Kebetulan ngomongin support level.., saya pikir sebaiknya memang kita tidak 
melihat support pada satu titik saja, tapi lbh kepada satu RANGE harga spt yg 
anda sampaikan (1310-1315) apalagi kalau kita bicara INDEX dimana kita harus 
sedikit lebih 'toleran' thd level support, secara kasar, range saya di zona 
1300'an, plus minus 10% lah

just a thought.

Rgrds,
JT
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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...


Iya boss memang tipis banget, tapi setidaknya nggak bablas makin 
bawah supaya kontrolnya pada range 1310 - 1315... hehehe

Regards


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 From: FromBuitenzorg frombuitenz...@...
 
 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:41:23 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...
 
 
 Kalo saya pribadi batas 1310 saja, ...  selanjutnya ngacir dulu 
 sambil ngintip peluang dicelah celah merah, kalo bisa
 
 Rgrds
 
 jkunci jkunci@ wrote:
 
  Aromanya emang begitu, kita sering tampil beda sendiri. Tapi ok 
juga
  kalo besok merah ruang buat masuk makin lebar bukan? 
  Ati ati kata Embah batas 1307 tembus kita loncat keluar.
  
  Salam,
  jkunci
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  frombuitenzorg@ wrote:
  
   Edun euy cuma naik tipis banget hehehe, tapi kalo nanti malam 
DJ 
 merah 
   merona BD masih punya space lumayan buat bikin ijo sendirian :)
   
   Rgrds
   
   Big Fat bigfatong@ wrote:
   
Mbah, DJ and regional ijo tebel aja, IHSG cuma +3, gimana kl 
DJ 
 and 
   regional merah yah. kita bisa berdarah2 kali.
 
Jadi inget lagu yang syairnya: mengapa terjadi pada diriku 
 (diganti 
   jadi pada BEI). Aku tak percaya, ...
 
Mohon petunjuk ya Mbah.
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik JsxTrader™
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:07:41 
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Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...


Kebetulan ngomongin support level.., saya pikir sebaiknya memang kita tidak 
melihat support pada satu titik saja, tapi lbh kepada satu RANGE harga spt yg 
anda sampaikan (1310-1315) apalagi kalau kita bicara INDEX dimana kita harus 
sedikit lebih 'toleran' thd level support, secara kasar, range saya di zona 
1300'an, plus minus 10% lah

just a thought.

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From: FromBuitenzorg frombuitenz...@yahoo.com

Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:53:24 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...


Iya boss memang tipis banget, tapi setidaknya nggak bablas makin 
bawah supaya kontrolnya pada range 1310 - 1315... hehehe

Regards


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 1307 dgn 1310 beda tipis atuh Pak.. He
 
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: FromBuitenzorg frombuitenz...@...
 
 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:41:23 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...
 
 
 Kalo saya pribadi batas 1310 saja, ...  selanjutnya ngacir dulu 
 sambil ngintip peluang dicelah celah merah, kalo bisa
 
 Rgrds
 
 jkunci jkunci@ wrote:
 
  Aromanya emang begitu, kita sering tampil beda sendiri. Tapi ok 
juga
  kalo besok merah ruang buat masuk makin lebar bukan? 
  Ati ati kata Embah batas 1307 tembus kita loncat keluar.
  
  Salam,
  jkunci
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, FromBuitenzorg
  frombuitenzorg@ wrote:
  
   Edun euy cuma naik tipis banget hehehe, tapi kalo nanti malam 
DJ 
 merah 
   merona BD masih punya space lumayan buat bikin ijo sendirian :)
   
   Rgrds
   
   Big Fat bigfatong@ wrote:
   
Mbah, DJ and regional ijo tebel aja, IHSG cuma +3, gimana kl 
DJ 
 and 
   regional merah yah. kita bisa berdarah2 kali.
 
Jadi inget lagu yang syairnya: mengapa terjadi pada diriku 
 (diganti 
   jadi pada BEI). Aku tak percaya, ...
 
Mohon petunjuk ya Mbah.
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik indeksbei3000
Itu value indeks pada saat jam trading berlangsung atau tunggu pada saat 
menjelang clossing? BD kan suka ngetes support level.atau kita tunggu 3 hari 
dulu? Kalau tdk mental, br CL?
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From: JsxTrader™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com

Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:07:41 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...


Kebetulan ngomongin support level.., saya pikir sebaiknya memang kita tidak 
melihat support pada satu titik saja, tapi lbh kepada satu RANGE harga spt yg 
anda sampaikan (1310-1315) apalagi kalau kita bicara INDEX dimana kita harus 
sedikit lebih 'toleran' thd level support, secara kasar, range saya di zona 
1300'an, plus minus 10% lah

just a thought.

Rgrds,
JT
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:53:24 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...


Iya boss memang tipis banget, tapi setidaknya nggak bablas makin 
bawah supaya kontrolnya pada range 1310 - 1315... hehehe

Regards


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 -Original Message-
 From: FromBuitenzorg frombuitenz...@...
 
 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:41:23 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...
 
 
 Kalo saya pribadi batas 1310 saja, ...  selanjutnya ngacir dulu 
 sambil ngintip peluang dicelah celah merah, kalo bisa
 
 Rgrds
 
 jkunci jkunci@ wrote:
 
  Aromanya emang begitu, kita sering tampil beda sendiri. Tapi ok 
juga
  kalo besok merah ruang buat masuk makin lebar bukan? 
  Ati ati kata Embah batas 1307 tembus kita loncat keluar.
  
  Salam,
  jkunci
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, FromBuitenzorg
  frombuitenzorg@ wrote:
  
   Edun euy cuma naik tipis banget hehehe, tapi kalo nanti malam 
DJ 
 merah 
   merona BD masih punya space lumayan buat bikin ijo sendirian :)
   
   Rgrds
   
   Big Fat bigfatong@ wrote:
   
Mbah, DJ and regional ijo tebel aja, IHSG cuma +3, gimana kl 
DJ 
 and 
   regional merah yah. kita bisa berdarah2 kali.
 
Jadi inget lagu yang syairnya: mengapa terjadi pada diriku 
 (diganti 
   jadi pada BEI). Aku tak percaya, ...
 
Mohon petunjuk ya Mbah.
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik JsxTrader™
Nah itu tergantung volume, kalau kecil ya kita tunggu, tapi kalau pas masuk 
zona tsb volume membengkak, kita siap2 kabur.., BUT ini index, bukan saham, 
volume jauh lebih mudah di create, bisa dgn saham gocapan atau dgn TS.., so hrs 
sangat hati2 menjudge-nya..., jadi gimana dong?? What we can do is; back to our 
own stocks saat index masuk area tsb, cermati perilakunya relative to index.., 
cek support level and kekuatannya, cek vol, dll.

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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:23:26 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...


Itu value indeks pada saat jam trading berlangsung atau tunggu pada saat 
menjelang clossing? BD kan suka ngetes support level.atau kita tunggu 3 hari 
dulu? Kalau tdk mental, br CL?
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:07:41 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...


Kebetulan ngomongin support level.., saya pikir sebaiknya memang kita tidak 
melihat support pada satu titik saja, tapi lbh kepada satu RANGE harga spt yg 
anda sampaikan (1310-1315) apalagi kalau kita bicara INDEX dimana kita harus 
sedikit lebih 'toleran' thd level support, secara kasar, range saya di zona 
1300'an, plus minus 10% lah

just a thought.

Rgrds,
JT
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From: FromBuitenzorg frombuitenz...@yahoo.com

Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:53:24 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...


Iya boss memang tipis banget, tapi setidaknya nggak bablas makin 
bawah supaya kontrolnya pada range 1310 - 1315... hehehe

Regards


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 1307 dgn 1310 beda tipis atuh Pak.. He
 
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: FromBuitenzorg frombuitenz...@...
 
 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:41:23 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...
 
 
 Kalo saya pribadi batas 1310 saja, ...  selanjutnya ngacir dulu 
 sambil ngintip peluang dicelah celah merah, kalo bisa
 
 Rgrds
 
 jkunci jkunci@ wrote:
 
  Aromanya emang begitu, kita sering tampil beda sendiri. Tapi ok 
juga
  kalo besok merah ruang buat masuk makin lebar bukan? 
  Ati ati kata Embah batas 1307 tembus kita loncat keluar.
  
  Salam,
  jkunci
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, FromBuitenzorg
  frombuitenzorg@ wrote:
  
   Edun euy cuma naik tipis banget hehehe, tapi kalo nanti malam 
DJ 
 merah 
   merona BD masih punya space lumayan buat bikin ijo sendirian :)
   
   Rgrds
   
   Big Fat bigfatong@ wrote:
   
Mbah, DJ and regional ijo tebel aja, IHSG cuma +3, gimana kl 
DJ 
 and 
   regional merah yah. kita bisa berdarah2 kali.
 
Jadi inget lagu yang syairnya: mengapa terjadi pada diriku 
 (diganti 
   jadi pada BEI). Aku tak percaya, ...
 
Mohon petunjuk ya Mbah.
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik Tommy Jayamudita
Terima kasih sarannya Pak DE, lain kali diberi keterangan, tapi kalau yang 
seperti Embah bikin, wah, mesti sekolah ke Embah dulu

Salam,
TJ


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  From: Dean Earwicker 
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  Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 8:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...


  saran aja nih, baiknya dikasih ilustrasi bos, atau caption, atau text di 
gambarnya. kaya yang mbah suka bikin.

  Regards,
  DE



  Pada 29 Januari 2009 20:37, Tommy Jayamudita jayamud...@gmail.com menulis:

Kekuatan IHSG naik atau turun esok 50-50, chart terlampir.






  - Original Message - 
  From: jkunci 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:25 PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...


  Aromanya emang begitu, kita sering tampil beda sendiri. Tapi ok juga
  kalo besok merah ruang buat masuk makin lebar bukan? 
  Ati ati kata Embah batas 1307 tembus kita loncat keluar.

  Salam,
  jkunci
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, FromBuitenzorg
  frombuitenz...@... wrote:
  
   Edun euy cuma naik tipis banget hehehe, tapi kalo nanti malam DJ merah 
   merona BD masih punya space lumayan buat bikin ijo sendirian :)
   
   Rgrds
   
   Big Fat bigfatong@ wrote:
   
Mbah, DJ and regional ijo tebel aja, IHSG cuma +3, gimana kl DJ and 
   regional merah yah. kita bisa berdarah2 kali.
 
Jadi inget lagu yang syairnya: mengapa terjadi pada diriku (diganti 
   jadi pada BEI). Aku tak percaya, ...
 
Mohon petunjuk ya Mbah.
  






   

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik jkunci
Kalo pak JT komentar semestinya pake embel2 volume. Nah gimana pak JT kasih 
clue buat besok, kalo volume sprt dua hr ini apa masih valid jika index tembus 
support 1300? Boleh dikatakan tembus tanpa volume! Mohon arahannya.

Salam,
Jkunci
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:07:41 
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Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...


Kebetulan ngomongin support level.., saya pikir sebaiknya memang kita tidak 
melihat support pada satu titik saja, tapi lbh kepada satu RANGE harga spt yg 
anda sampaikan (1310-1315) apalagi kalau kita bicara INDEX dimana kita harus 
sedikit lebih 'toleran' thd level support, secara kasar, range saya di zona 
1300'an, plus minus 10% lah

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From: FromBuitenzorg frombuitenz...@yahoo.com

Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:53:24 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...


Iya boss memang tipis banget, tapi setidaknya nggak bablas makin 
bawah supaya kontrolnya pada range 1310 - 1315... hehehe

Regards


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 -Original Message-
 From: FromBuitenzorg frombuitenz...@...
 
 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:41:23 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...
 
 
 Kalo saya pribadi batas 1310 saja, ...  selanjutnya ngacir dulu 
 sambil ngintip peluang dicelah celah merah, kalo bisa
 
 Rgrds
 
 jkunci jkunci@ wrote:
 
  Aromanya emang begitu, kita sering tampil beda sendiri. Tapi ok 
juga
  kalo besok merah ruang buat masuk makin lebar bukan? 
  Ati ati kata Embah batas 1307 tembus kita loncat keluar.
  
  Salam,
  jkunci
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, FromBuitenzorg
  frombuitenzorg@ wrote:
  
   Edun euy cuma naik tipis banget hehehe, tapi kalo nanti malam 
DJ 
 merah 
   merona BD masih punya space lumayan buat bikin ijo sendirian :)
   
   Rgrds
   
   Big Fat bigfatong@ wrote:
   
Mbah, DJ and regional ijo tebel aja, IHSG cuma +3, gimana kl 
DJ 
 and 
   regional merah yah. kita bisa berdarah2 kali.
 
Jadi inget lagu yang syairnya: mengapa terjadi pada diriku 
 (diganti 
   jadi pada BEI). Aku tak percaya, ...
 
Mohon petunjuk ya Mbah.
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik anru dadaq
Suhu2nya cl di 1300-1310. Ya yg newbie blm 1th ikut lah.


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 Itu value indeks pada saat jam trading berlangsung atau tunggu pada saat
 menjelang clossing? BD kan suka ngetes support level.atau kita tunggu 3 hari
 dulu? Kalau tdk mental, br CL?
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 Kebetulan ngomongin support level.., saya pikir sebaiknya memang kita tidak
 melihat support pada satu titik saja, tapi lbh kepada satu RANGE harga spt
 yg anda sampaikan (1310-1315) apalagi kalau kita bicara INDEX dimana kita
 harus sedikit lebih 'toleran' thd level support, secara kasar, range
 saya di zona 1300'an, plus minus 10% lah

 just a thought.

 Rgrds,
 JT
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 Iya boss memang tipis banget, tapi setidaknya nggak bablas makin
 bawah supaya kontrolnya pada range 1310 - 1315... hehehe

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 Kalo saya pribadi batas 1310 saja, ...  selanjutnya ngacir dulu
 sambil ngintip peluang dicelah celah merah, kalo bisa

 Rgrds

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  Aromanya emang begitu, kita sering tampil beda sendiri. Tapi ok
 juga
  kalo besok merah ruang buat masuk makin lebar bukan?
  Ati ati kata Embah batas 1307 tembus kita loncat keluar.
 
  Salam,
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  frombuitenzorg@ wrote:
  
   Edun euy cuma naik tipis banget hehehe, tapi kalo nanti malam
 DJ
 merah
   merona BD masih punya space lumayan buat bikin ijo sendirian :)
  
   Rgrds
  
   Big Fat bigfatong@ wrote:
   
Mbah, DJ and regional ijo tebel aja, IHSG cuma +3, gimana kl
 DJ
 and
   regional merah yah. kita bisa berdarah2 kali.
   
Jadi inget lagu yang syairnya: mengapa terjadi pada diriku
 (diganti
   jadi pada BEI). Aku tak percaya, ...
   
Mohon petunjuk ya Mbah.
  
 



 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik JsxTrader™
Aduuuhhh.., saya bagian komentar aja deh.., kalau analisa tanya ke Mbah aja, 
Pak Tasrul, Pak DE atau Pak Oen... Hehehe



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Kalo pak JT komentar semestinya pake embel2 volume. Nah gimana pak JT kasih 
clue buat besok, kalo volume sprt dua hr ini apa masih valid jika index tembus 
support 1300? Boleh dikatakan tembus tanpa volume! Mohon arahannya.

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Kebetulan ngomongin support level.., saya pikir sebaiknya memang kita tidak 
melihat support pada satu titik saja, tapi lbh kepada satu RANGE harga spt yg 
anda sampaikan (1310-1315) apalagi kalau kita bicara INDEX dimana kita harus 
sedikit lebih 'toleran' thd level support, secara kasar, range saya di zona 
1300'an, plus minus 10% lah

just a thought.

Rgrds,
JT
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:53:24 
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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...


Iya boss memang tipis banget, tapi setidaknya nggak bablas makin 
bawah supaya kontrolnya pada range 1310 - 1315... hehehe

Regards


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 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:41:23 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...
 
 
 Kalo saya pribadi batas 1310 saja, ...  selanjutnya ngacir dulu 
 sambil ngintip peluang dicelah celah merah, kalo bisa
 
 Rgrds
 
 jkunci jkunci@ wrote:
 
  Aromanya emang begitu, kita sering tampil beda sendiri. Tapi ok 
juga
  kalo besok merah ruang buat masuk makin lebar bukan? 
  Ati ati kata Embah batas 1307 tembus kita loncat keluar.
  
  Salam,
  jkunci
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, FromBuitenzorg
  frombuitenzorg@ wrote:
  
   Edun euy cuma naik tipis banget hehehe, tapi kalo nanti malam 
DJ 
 merah 
   merona BD masih punya space lumayan buat bikin ijo sendirian :)
   
   Rgrds
   
   Big Fat bigfatong@ wrote:
   
Mbah, DJ and regional ijo tebel aja, IHSG cuma +3, gimana kl 
DJ 
 and 
   regional merah yah. kita bisa berdarah2 kali.
 
Jadi inget lagu yang syairnya: mengapa terjadi pada diriku 
 (diganti 
   jadi pada BEI). Aku tak percaya, ...
 
Mohon petunjuk ya Mbah.
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik indeksbei3000
Susah jg belajar Volume Price Analysis. Kemarin br baca2 Float Analysis. Buku 
yg JT sarankan untuk dibaca apa?yg mengulas Volume and Price.
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:42:21 
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Nah itu tergantung volume, kalau kecil ya kita tunggu, tapi kalau pas masuk 
zona tsb volume membengkak, kita siap2 kabur.., BUT ini index, bukan saham, 
volume jauh lebih mudah di create, bisa dgn saham gocapan atau dgn TS.., so hrs 
sangat hati2 menjudge-nya..., jadi gimana dong?? What we can do is; back to our 
own stocks saat index masuk area tsb, cermati perilakunya relative to index.., 
cek support level and kekuatannya, cek vol, dll.

Rgrds, 
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:23:26 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...


Itu value indeks pada saat jam trading berlangsung atau tunggu pada saat 
menjelang clossing? BD kan suka ngetes support level.atau kita tunggu 3 hari 
dulu? Kalau tdk mental, br CL?
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:10:11 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...


Oppss.., maksudnya 1%

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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:07:41 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...


Kebetulan ngomongin support level.., saya pikir sebaiknya memang kita tidak 
melihat support pada satu titik saja, tapi lbh kepada satu RANGE harga spt yg 
anda sampaikan (1310-1315) apalagi kalau kita bicara INDEX dimana kita harus 
sedikit lebih 'toleran' thd level support, secara kasar, range saya di zona 
1300'an, plus minus 10% lah

just a thought.

Rgrds,
JT
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:53:24 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...


Iya boss memang tipis banget, tapi setidaknya nggak bablas makin 
bawah supaya kontrolnya pada range 1310 - 1315... hehehe

Regards


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 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:41:23 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...
 
 
 Kalo saya pribadi batas 1310 saja, ...  selanjutnya ngacir dulu 
 sambil ngintip peluang dicelah celah merah, kalo bisa
 
 Rgrds
 
 jkunci jkunci@ wrote:
 
  Aromanya emang begitu, kita sering tampil beda sendiri. Tapi ok 
juga
  kalo besok merah ruang buat masuk makin lebar bukan? 
  Ati ati kata Embah batas 1307 tembus kita loncat keluar.
  
  Salam,
  jkunci
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, FromBuitenzorg
  frombuitenzorg@ wrote:
  
   Edun euy cuma naik tipis banget hehehe, tapi kalo nanti malam 
DJ 
 merah 
   merona BD masih punya space lumayan buat bikin ijo sendirian :)
   
   Rgrds
   
   Big Fat bigfatong@ wrote:
   
Mbah, DJ and regional ijo tebel aja, IHSG cuma +3, gimana kl 
DJ 
 and 
   regional merah yah. kita bisa berdarah2 kali.
 
Jadi inget lagu yang syairnya: mengapa terjadi pada diriku 
 (diganti 
   jadi pada BEI). Aku tak percaya, ...
 
Mohon petunjuk ya Mbah.
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik jkunci
Sorry deh pak JT, kita newbie emang agak merepotkan. Postingan pak JT emang 
kita tunggu2. Thx a lot.

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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:54:54 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...


Aduuuhhh.., saya bagian komentar aja deh.., kalau analisa tanya ke Mbah aja, 
Pak Tasrul, Pak DE atau Pak Oen... Hehehe



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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:17:36 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...


Kalo pak JT komentar semestinya pake embel2 volume. Nah gimana pak JT kasih 
clue buat besok, kalo volume sprt dua hr ini apa masih valid jika index tembus 
support 1300? Boleh dikatakan tembus tanpa volume! Mohon arahannya.

Salam,
Jkunci
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:07:41 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...


Kebetulan ngomongin support level.., saya pikir sebaiknya memang kita tidak 
melihat support pada satu titik saja, tapi lbh kepada satu RANGE harga spt yg 
anda sampaikan (1310-1315) apalagi kalau kita bicara INDEX dimana kita harus 
sedikit lebih 'toleran' thd level support, secara kasar, range saya di zona 
1300'an, plus minus 10% lah

just a thought.

Rgrds,
JT
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:53:24 
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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...


Iya boss memang tipis banget, tapi setidaknya nggak bablas makin 
bawah supaya kontrolnya pada range 1310 - 1315... hehehe

Regards


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 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:41:23 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...
 
 
 Kalo saya pribadi batas 1310 saja, ...  selanjutnya ngacir dulu 
 sambil ngintip peluang dicelah celah merah, kalo bisa
 
 Rgrds
 
 jkunci jkunci@ wrote:
 
  Aromanya emang begitu, kita sering tampil beda sendiri. Tapi ok 
juga
  kalo besok merah ruang buat masuk makin lebar bukan? 
  Ati ati kata Embah batas 1307 tembus kita loncat keluar.
  
  Salam,
  jkunci
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, FromBuitenzorg
  frombuitenzorg@ wrote:
  
   Edun euy cuma naik tipis banget hehehe, tapi kalo nanti malam 
DJ 
 merah 
   merona BD masih punya space lumayan buat bikin ijo sendirian :)
   
   Rgrds
   
   Big Fat bigfatong@ wrote:
   
Mbah, DJ and regional ijo tebel aja, IHSG cuma +3, gimana kl 
DJ 
 and 
   regional merah yah. kita bisa berdarah2 kali.
 
Jadi inget lagu yang syairnya: mengapa terjadi pada diriku 
 (diganti 
   jadi pada BEI). Aku tak percaya, ...
 
Mohon petunjuk ya Mbah.
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik bayu murti
danamon yg 1 M keatas aq ditawari kl ga salah 13-13,5% dech, yg 12% 500-1 
M...baru semingu kemarin dr prioritasnya

--- Pada Kam, 29/1/09, Armando Anthony armando.anth...@yahoo.com menulis:
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Tanggal: Kamis, 29 Januari, 2009, 11:58 AM










 







Bank Kesejahteraan Pak, 14% p.a. . Year end closing kemaren saya 
pakai. on call. 7 hari aja, 2 minggu off, masuk lg minggu lalu, tadi pagi 
sdh kembali  Tapi jangan sering2 pak, dan jangan terlalu banyak.

Danamon 12.5%? Mayapada 13%? International Bank rata2 pelit, 8-9% p.a. Mereka 
bilang krn international bank dg rating triple A atau AA.  Boleh aja sih bilang 
gitu.  Tapi crisis kali ini kan asalnya dr sana.  Lagian kalau international 
bank itu collaps disini, head officenya tidak punya kewajiban untuk bail out.  
Morality mungkin ya, tapi legally sptnya nggak.
 
Armando
 




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To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:14:04 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini



tambah seret aja ini likuiditas

btw...ada yang bisa kasih rekomendasi deposito ON CALL di bank-bank pemerintah 
??

atau bank swasta dengan penjaminan maksimum

kayaknya lebih enak duit ditaruh di sana sebagian dulu :D

thanks


2009/1/29 Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ gmail.com


Tambah lagi sukuk retail (obligasi syariah fixed rate 12% pa) peminatnya cukup 
banyak. Selain relatif lebih aman dari saham, juga dijamin pemerintah dan 
return lebih gede dari deposito, asal di hold sampe mature selama 3 tahun.

Kayanya ada skenario agar (pengelola) dana retail mau di arahkan ke situ 
dulu. Jadi buat para sahamer sabar aja dulu. Tgl 30 besok launching, kita lihat 
efeknya ke pasar saham.

Daripada bosen nungguin saham gak naek2..heheh. .

Regards,
DE


2009/1/29 jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id


--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Big Fat bigfat...@.. . wrote:

 Mbah, DJ and regional ijo tebel aja, IHSG cuma +3, gimana kl DJ and
regional merah yah. kita bisa berdarah2 kali.
  
 Jadi inget lagu yang syairnya: mengapa terjadi pada diriku (diganti
jadi pada BEI). Aku tak percaya, ...
  
 Mohon petunjuk ya Mbah.


Suatu saham bergerak mengikuti FAKTOR2:
- Fundamental saham itu sendiri dan
- Market (=index)

Saat ini:
- Market Global bergerak NAIK tapi
- Harga comodity seperti minyak dan cpo TURUN.

Jadi Faktor penggerak nya MIXED, yg satu POSITIF dan yg satu lagi
NEGATIF.

Sebenarnya BD nyangkut dikomoditi yg dibeli pada hari pertama
sesudah imlek, mungkin tidak 100% nyangkut tapi masih
 untung.
Jadi pada hari ke 2 dan ke 3 mereka berusaha JUAL. Ini yg
mengakibatkan IHSG susah naik.

Tapi kalo global market index masih bisa naik, maka saham masih
bisa naik karena FAKTOR GLOBAL MARKET LEBIH DOMINAN.

Jika DJI masih bisa naik lagi maka para FM akan balik MEMBELI
HIGH YIELD EQUITY seperti saham BEI karena High Yield
Equity RISK menjadi kecil.

Note:
- Ada lagi tambahan MARKET RISK BEI dihubungkan dengan RESIKO
 yg berhubungan dengan Anggota Bursa yg saat ini beritanya
 lagi gencar di Expose.

Kita ikutin aja gerakan KEBO OBAMA...

Pokonya: Yes, We Can...

Kalo gagalpun, resiko kita TERUKUR: CL di 1307 engga usah STRESS..


http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwihsg.htm




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 From: y_dizz y_d...@...

 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 9:02 AM






 BDnya lagi stress. Tolong..!!!

 Regards,
 Yudizz

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 consultant@ .. wrote:
 
  IHSG hari ini
 
 
  http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwihsg.htm
 




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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik JT
Hehe, pake sori segala, saya tebak dow aja deh..., Insya Allah
Mental..., see my chart di posting sebelumnya, coba perhatikan volumenya..

JT

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Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...

Sorry deh pak JT, kita newbie emang agak merepotkan. Postingan pak JT emang
kita tunggu2. Thx a lot.

Salam,
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:54:54 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...


Aduuuhhh.., saya bagian komentar aja deh.., kalau analisa tanya ke Mbah aja,
Pak Tasrul, Pak DE atau Pak Oen... Hehehe



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From: jku...@yahoo.com

Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:17:36 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...


Kalo pak JT komentar semestinya pake embel2 volume. Nah gimana pak JT kasih
clue buat besok, kalo volume sprt dua hr ini apa masih valid jika index
tembus support 1300? Boleh dikatakan tembus tanpa volume! Mohon arahannya.

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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:07:41 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...


Kebetulan ngomongin support level.., saya pikir sebaiknya memang kita tidak
melihat support pada satu titik saja, tapi lbh kepada satu RANGE harga spt
yg anda sampaikan (1310-1315) apalagi kalau kita bicara INDEX dimana kita
harus sedikit lebih 'toleran' thd level support, secara kasar, range
saya di zona 1300'an, plus minus 10% lah

just a thought.

Rgrds,
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From: FromBuitenzorg frombuitenz...@yahoo.com

Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:53:24 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...


Iya boss memang tipis banget, tapi setidaknya nggak bablas makin 
bawah supaya kontrolnya pada range 1310 - 1315... hehehe

Regards


JsxTrader™ jsxtra...@... wrote

 1307 dgn 1310 beda tipis atuh Pak.. He
 
 
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 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:41:23 
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 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini, ...edun euy...
 
 
 Kalo saya pribadi batas 1310 saja, ...  selanjutnya ngacir dulu 
 sambil ngintip peluang dicelah celah merah, kalo bisa
 
 Rgrds
 
 jkunci jkunci@ wrote:
 
  Aromanya emang begitu, kita sering tampil beda sendiri. Tapi ok 
juga
  kalo besok merah ruang buat masuk makin lebar bukan? 
  Ati ati kata Embah batas 1307 tembus kita loncat keluar.
  
  Salam,
  jkunci
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   Edun euy cuma naik tipis banget hehehe, tapi kalo nanti malam 
DJ 
 merah 
   merona BD masih punya space lumayan buat bikin ijo sendirian :)
   
   Rgrds
   
   Big Fat bigfatong@ wrote:
   
Mbah, DJ and regional ijo tebel aja, IHSG cuma +3, gimana kl 
DJ 
 and 
   regional merah yah. kita bisa berdarah2 kali.
 
Jadi inget lagu yang syairnya: mengapa terjadi pada diriku 
 (diganti 
   jadi pada BEI). Aku tak percaya, ...
 
Mohon petunjuk ya Mbah.
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2009-01-29 Terurut Topik John Rull
Ada pasar sekunder nya nggak Pak De??

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dean Earwicker 
dean.earwic...@... wrote:

 Pajak 20% final dari bunga.. eh.. imbal hasil, kurang lebih sama 
dengan
 deposito (tergantung bank)
 
 bunga itu haroom..
 
 minimum investasi Rp. 5 juta, maximum semampunya you punya uang.
 
 lengkapnya baca attachment atau buka website www.depkeu.go.id
 
 Regards,
 DE
 
 Pada 29 Januari 2009 20:41, ::Pak_AA: menulis:
 
   Pak DE.
  Sukuk Retail itu pajaknya gimana?
  Bisa gak dicairin sewaktu2 atau harus di-freeze 3 thn?
  thanks
 
  2009/1/29 Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@...
 
   Tambah lagi sukuk retail (obligasi syariah fixed rate 12% pa) 
peminatnya
  cukup banyak. Selain relatif lebih aman dari saham, juga dijamin 
pemerintah
  dan return lebih gede dari deposito, asal di hold sampe mature 
selama 3
  tahun.
 
 
  Kayanya ada skenario agar (pengelola) dana retail mau 
di arahkan ke situ
  dulu. Jadi buat para sahamer sabar aja dulu. Tgl 30 besok 
launching, kita
  lihat efeknya ke pasar saham.
 
  Daripada bosen nungguin saham gak naek2..heheh..
 
  Regards,
  DE
 
  2009/1/29 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@...
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Big Fat bigfatong@ 
wrote:
 
  
   Mbah, DJ and regional ijo tebel aja, IHSG cuma +3, gimana kl 
DJ and
  regional merah yah. kita bisa berdarah2 kali.
  
   Jadi inget lagu yang syairnya: mengapa terjadi pada diriku 
(diganti
  jadi pada BEI). Aku tak percaya, ...
  
   Mohon petunjuk ya Mbah.
  
 
  Suatu saham bergerak mengikuti FAKTOR2:
  - Fundamental saham itu sendiri dan
  - Market (=index)
 
  Saat ini:
  - Market Global bergerak NAIK tapi
  - Harga comodity seperti minyak dan cpo TURUN.
 
  Jadi Faktor penggerak nya MIXED, yg satu POSITIF dan yg satu 
lagi
  NEGATIF.
 
  Sebenarnya BD nyangkut dikomoditi yg dibeli pada hari pertama
  sesudah imlek, mungkin tidak 100% nyangkut tapi masih untung.
  Jadi pada hari ke 2 dan ke 3 mereka berusaha JUAL. Ini yg
  mengakibatkan IHSG susah naik.
 
  Tapi kalo global market index masih bisa naik, maka saham masih
  bisa naik karena FAKTOR GLOBAL MARKET LEBIH DOMINAN.
 
  Jika DJI masih bisa naik lagi maka para FM akan balik MEMBELI
  HIGH YIELD EQUITY seperti saham BEI karena High Yield
  Equity RISK menjadi kecil.
 
  Note:
  - Ada lagi tambahan MARKET RISK BEI dihubungkan dengan RESIKO
   yg berhubungan dengan Anggota Bursa yg saat ini beritanya
   lagi gencar di Expose.
 
  Kita ikutin aja gerakan KEBO OBAMA...
 
  Pokonya: Yes, We Can...
 
  Kalo gagalpun, resiko kita TERUKUR: CL di 1307 engga usah 
STRESS..
 
  http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwihsg.htm
 
 
 
 
   --- On Thu, 1/29/09, y_dizz y_dizz@ wrote:
  
   From: y_dizz y_dizz@
   Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
   Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 9:02 AM
  
  
  
  
  
  
   BDnya lagi stress. Tolong..!!!
  
   Regards,
   Yudizz
  
   --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant 
jsx-
   consultant@ .. wrote:
   
IHSG hari ini
   
   
http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwihsg.htm
   
  
 
 
  
 





[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2009-01-15 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Update 13:45

DJ future +97

http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwihsg.htm


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-
consult...@... wrote:

 IHSG hari ini
 
 - If Wave C = Wave A then C = 1332
 - DJ berhasil rebound dari LOW dan 
   C confirmed 1332
 - Today's Target antara Fibo 23 dan 38
 - Risk: Garis coklat bawah (=1332 CL)
 
 http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwihsg.htm





Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2009-01-15 Terurut Topik Dean Earwicker
Fyi, senin besok 19 jan 09, pasar US tutup. Martin Luther King Jr's Day.

http://stocks.about.com/od/marketnews/a/122208schedule.htm

Regards,
DE



2009/1/16 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id

 Update 13:45

 DJ future +97

 http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwihsg.htm


 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-
 consult...@... wrote:
 
  IHSG hari ini
 
  - If Wave C = Wave A then C = 1332
  - DJ berhasil rebound dari LOW dan
C confirmed 1332
  - Today's Target antara Fibo 23 dan 38
  - Risk: Garis coklat bawah (=1332 CL)
 
  http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwihsg.htm
 



 

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini + Banking sector

2009-01-11 Terurut Topik ekonombeling
Bursa sedang sangat berhati2 mbah. Sentimen negatif masih  positif. 
Itu makanya saya kurang setuju dengan penurunan BI Rate yang langsung 
sebesar 50bps. karena adjustment nya jadi terlalu cepat n kita jadi 
kekurangan stok sentimen positif lagi.

Sentimen positif akan datang dari kurs kita, lelang SUN akan dimulai 
dan kurs biasanya menguat. Semoga IHSG kecipratan dikit. Anw, buat 
rekan2 trader, saya setuju dengan mbah. keep an eye on banking 
(sekalian plus consumer  infra). goodluck.


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-
consult...@... wrote:

 IHSG hari ini + Banking sector
 
 
 http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwihsg.htm
 
 dan
 
 Bisakah sector perbankan menyelamatkan IHSG ?
 
 liat juga BBCA: The Saviour





[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini + Banking sector

2009-01-11 Terurut Topik Provokator Saham
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant
jsx-consult...@... wrote:

 IHSG hari ini + Banking sector
 
 
 http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwihsg.htm
 
 dan
 
 Bisakah sector perbankan menyelamatkan IHSG ?
 
 liat juga BBCA: The Saviour


Buat temen2 yg blm punya data untuk chart IHSG (untuk day trader)bisa
download metatrader yg dikeluarkan oleh MPF di link ini.
http://www.mpf.co.id/
Datanya bisa sampai 1 menitan, yg dipakai Embah keliatan 1 jam-an yah?
Mayan ada chart USDIDR juga...

Daftar aja untuk demo account, sudah bisa buat gambar sendiri kayak
yg Embah lakukan.
Hehehe

Semoga bermanfaat
 





[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini ,mbah analisanya dong?

2008-12-17 Terurut Topik Vic
sepi. udah pada liburankah?
apa jadi window dressing?



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Chase
chase.vinc...@... wrote:

 ihsg turun cuman gr gr si bum bum,support kemaren 900patah,  target
800-820 trendline, gak tau kena gak, banking jg kena PT
 
 tapi regional pada mix, sp mix juga, gak terlalu jatoh jauh juga,
boleh beli tahan 1 hari gak mbah?
 
 target bidik semen,nickelgold,astra group.





[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG HARI INI, Hejo

2008-12-10 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Catatan:
- Index regional Asia Pacific rata rata turun -1%


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, FromBuitenzorg 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Melihat perkembangan stock market regional dan world market yg 
 mendukung, serta respon pasar yg makin positif, akan semakin 
mendukung 
 dan menjadi modal teoritis IHSG tetap makin hejo .. :)
 
 Regards





[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG HARI INI, Hejo

2008-12-10 Terurut Topik FromBuitenzorg
Thanks for notice Pak. Semoga Aspac hari ini sebagian besar atau 
keseluruhan akan mengikuti faktor hejo Hongkong dan India yg hejonya 
cukup baik.

Regards


In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Catatan:
 - Index regional Asia Pacific rata rata turun -1%
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, FromBuitenzorg 
 frombuitenzorg@ wrote:
 
  Melihat perkembangan stock market regional dan world market yg 
  mendukung, serta respon pasar yg makin positif, akan semakin 
 mendukung 
  dan menjadi modal teoritis IHSG tetap makin hejo .. :)
  
  Regards
 





Re: [obrolan-bandar] . Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-03 Terurut Topik SyIFA Fund

Nope...look at my 2nd Q to Dick Q: You should be able to invest your money at 
least 1 year Pak. :) Sorry for my late response. (I've got something to do out 
of nowhere)

Regards,


SF FM
Where you can trust your fund

--- On Tue, 12/2/08, Dharma Krisnadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Dharma Krisnadi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] . Re: IHSG hari ini
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 1:57 PM

To DE : berarti pernah maen King of Fighter juga dong  ,  Anyway, hampir semua 
fund gede pernah getok redemption lumayan taon ini. Anda gak kena redempt SF ?
  


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] . Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-03 Terurut Topik arifin suparto
Hai Syifa mau mungutin di 700 yach 
Antara yakin nggak yakin bisa kesana, anyway time will tell.
 
Best Regards,
Kirun

--- On Wed, 12/3/08, SyIFA Fund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: SyIFA Fund [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] . Re: IHSG hari ini
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Nope...look at my 2nd Q to Dick Q: You should be able to invest your money at 
least 1 year Pak. :) Sorry for my late response. (I've got something to do out 
of nowhere)

Regards,


SF FM
Where you can trust your fund

--- On Tue, 12/2/08, Dharma Krisnadi dh_krisnadi@ yahoo.com wrote:

From: Dharma Krisnadi dh_krisnadi@ yahoo.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] . Re: IHSG hari ini
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 1:57 PM










To DE : berarti pernah maen King of Fighter juga dong  , 
 
Anyway, hampir semua fund gede pernah getok redemption lumayan taon ini. Anda 
gak kena redempt SF ?

 














  

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-03 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
BDMN udah naik sekitar 15% sejak dikomporin hari Selasa...


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Halim Mintareja 
 hmin918@ wrote:
 
  sekedar saya tambahkan aja..
  
  kalau banking di indo..cari yang yang LK-nya sudah in deep shit
  
  kalau LK masih show baik-baik aja model BBRI BMRI etc forget it 
 lah..
  .risk vs reward gak sebanding
  
 
 Pak Halim,
 
 Gimana kalo pilih bank yg Laporan Keuangannya bagus tapi
 PER dan COP nya in deep shit seperti BDMN, ini kan bank
 dibackup ama Temasek ?.
 - Risk: Say 50%
 - Reward: Say 200% in 1 or 2 years
 
 
 Kalo cara pak Halim gimana, masih belum jelas nih ?.
 
 
 
 
  
  
  On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Rei highwaystar91@ wrote:
  
Wah bu Fifi sdh bisa jadi senior OB nih hehehe
  
   On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM, fifi young fifiyoung03@ 
 wrote:
  
 Pak Rei,
   Let me give you some clues:
  
   Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
   Com Metal: ANTM, TINS, INCO
   Agriculture: AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
   Energy  : PGAS
   Banking: BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
   Infra Structure   : TLKM, ISAT
   Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
   Optional: ASII, UNTR, HEXA
  
   Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
   Tinggal pilih aja...
   Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
   BUY disaat market berdarah-darah,
   lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak
  
   simple 'kan?!
   he... he...
  
   Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur.,
   milis OB... B U B A R  dech...
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund 
 syifa.fund@wrote:
  
  
   *Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially 
 energy and
   agriculture products), property and had been working in some 
 banking and
   also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives 
with 
 business
   diversities.* *I bought their stocks at really low price in 
 past. And
   always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they 
reach 
 my target
   price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my 
 portfolio. It's
   my RAHASIA DAPUR. No one knows except my trader. I've 3 
 trader at 3
   different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3 
 accounts what
   should i do to be a good investor, because i used different 
 method on my 3
   accounts. *
   **
   *Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. **What 
 i'm trying
   to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative manner, i 
always 
 buy them if
   i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is PRICELESS for 
me..
   So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do 
 FILTERING, and if
   possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and 
do 
 some
   valuation.*
   *For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not 
 good in TA
   so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much 
for 
 MBah, Pak
   JT, EL, and others).*
   *Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member. 
 Thank you
   very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
   *For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio (RAHASIA
   DAPURHEHE..BUKAN RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR YA?).*
   **
   *Luv u all,*
   **
   *PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.*
   **
   **
   **
   *Regards,*
   **
   *SF FM*
*Where you can trust your fund*
   --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Rei highwaystar91@* wrote:
  
   From: Rei highwaystar91@
   Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
   Cc: syifa.fund@
   Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:24 AM
  
  
 I agree, and thanks for the warning Sir...
   Care to share which stocks you invest in? Thanks!
  
  
  
  
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM, SyIFA Fund 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 comsyifa.fund@
wrote:
  
   *Yup it's true that market always get panic, but do not 
 forget that
   some big BD (some of them are friends of mineI'm not 
 joking.I'm
   telling you remind me of my lecturer fabulous 
statement) 
 still try to
   sell their stock at higher, i'm not a bargain hunter, i'm 
not 
 a trader, i'm
   just an investor who hold his stock and always try to find 
the 
 undervalued
   one for the sake of my clients, i don't send FEAR but i send 
 WARNING if
   something is going to be happened in near terms. Just look 
at 
 some of my
   post. Actually i love stocks that i'm involved in. Long term 
 view will be
   great (buy and just hold) but short term view (like trading 
or 
 bargain
   hunter) would be in extreme position (either earned so much 
or 
 lost their
   money so much).
   If you are a trader, just PLAY carefully. If you are the 
 owner, then BUY
   carefully.
  
  
   Regards,
  
   SF FM
   Where you can trust your fund
   *
  
   --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 comjsxtrader@
   * wrote:
  
   From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-02 Terurut Topik fifi young
Oh ya Mbah,
No hard feeling..

I'm just fine...

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:54 PM, jsx_consultant 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Ibu Fifi,

 Ada ralat nih, semua orang memberikan kontribusi bagi milis OB,

 Ada yg jadi jendral, ada yg jadi tentara, ada yg jadi advisor,
 ada yg jadi penyandang dana atau info, ada yg jadi provokator,
 ada tukang pentung, pokonya semua mereka itulah penduduk OB..

 Tanpa mereka semua milis OB engga akan bisa jalan.

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 fifi young [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 
  Pak Rei,
  Let me give you some clues:
 
  Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
  Com Metal : ANTM, TINS, INCO
  Agriculture : AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
  Energy : PGAS
  Banking : BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
  Infra Structure : TLKM, ISAT
  Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
  Optional : ASII, UNTR, HEXA
 
  Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
  Tinggal pilih aja...
  Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
  BUY disaat market berdarah-darah,
  lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak
 
  simple 'kan?!
  he... he...
 
  Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur.,
  milis OB... B U B A R dech...
  On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
   *Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially
 energy and
   agriculture products), property and had been working in some
 banking and
   also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives with
 business
   diversities.* *I bought their stocks at really low price in past.
 And
   always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they reach
 my target
   price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my
 portfolio. It's
   my RAHASIA DAPUR. No one knows except my trader. I've 3 trader
 at 3
   different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3
 accounts what
   should i do to be a good investor, because i used different
 method on my 3
   accounts. *
   **
   *Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. **What i'm
 trying
   to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative manner, i always
 buy them if
   i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is PRICELESS for me..
   So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do
 FILTERING, and if
   possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and do
 some
   valuation.*
   *For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not good
 in TA so
   I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much for
 MBah, Pak JT,
   EL, and others).*
   *Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member.
 Thank you
   very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
   *For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio (RAHASIA
   DAPURHEHE..BUKAN RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR YA?).*
   **
   *Luv u all,*
   **
   *PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.*
   **
   **
   **
   *Regards,*
   **
   *SF FM*
   *Where you can trust your fund*
   --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
  
   From: Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:24 AM
  
  
   I agree, and thanks for the warning Sir...
   Care to share which stocks you invest in? Thanks!
  
  
  
  
   On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM, SyIFA Fund [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 com[EMAIL PROTECTED]

wrote:
  
   *Yup it's true that market always get panic, but do not
 forget that
   some big BD (some of them are friends of mineI'm not
 joking.I'm
   telling you remind me of my lecturer fabulous statement)
 still try to
   sell their stock at higher, i'm not a bargain hunter, i'm not a
 trader, i'm
   just an investor who hold his stock and always try to find the
 undervalued
   one for the sake of my clients, i don't send FEAR but i send
 WARNING if
   something is going to be happened in near terms. Just look at
 some of my
   post. Actually i love stocks that i'm involved in. Long term
 view will be
   great (buy and just hold) but short term view (like trading or
 bargain
   hunter) would be in extreme position (either earned so much or
 lost their
   money so much).
   If you are a trader, just PLAY carefully. If you are the owner,
 then BUY
   carefully.
  
  
   Regards,
  
   SF FM
   Where you can trust your fund
   *
  
   --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 com[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   * wrote:
  
   From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
   To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] bandar%40yahoogroups.com
   Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:00 AM
  
   I really don't know Sir.., saya friend of both.., kalau lagi
 cash ikut
   Pak Oen, kalau lagi Full ikut Bull….haha, they both give so many
 opportunity
   for trader…., tapi saya akan lawan orang-orang yg Cuma bisa
 menebarkan FEAR
   doang, karena sangat merugikan 

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini...Gedubraaak

2008-12-02 Terurut Topik y_dizz
100 billion dolar Zimbabwe kalo gak salah equal sama cepek jing doang 
kan?



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, FromBuitenzorg 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ah cape de, ada lagi di bawah ini si gdbrook punya 100 billion, 
IHSG 
 nya bisa brak gedubaraakk hehehe.
 
 gdbrook brookgrd@ wrote:
 
  I am from Zimbabwe with 100 billion dollars wealth. I can hold 
share
  with that amount almost forever.
  It makes me suit to be your client.
  gdbrook
 





Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-02 Terurut Topik tora
ehm, kalo dibungkus peram di gudang gimana pak?
kira2 berapa minggu spy layak diliat lagi, sapa tau bisa jadi mie duo porsi 
jumbo :D



  - Original Message - 
  From: JsxTrader 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 2:44 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini



  so far masih dibawah kemarin, ada big order sebelum sesi 1 tutup, dan 7 menit 
setelah sesi 2 dibuka, selanjutnya masih normal, sepertinya 860-870 dijaga 
ketat..., kelihatannya BD suruh kita menyerah di 880.., hehe. 
   
  JsxTrader 





--
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 2:10:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

  Pak JT,
  Volume di indf gimana? Apa masih normal atau meningkat ya? 
  Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®



--
  From: jsxtrader 
  Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:46:24 -
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini


  lah kita minta diskon dong..., jangan main tubruk aja, indf masuk 
  area tembak tuh.. Berani??

  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, ruzli indeksbei3000@ ... 
  wrote:
  
   Boss JT, bukannya BBCA sudah kemahalan ?
   Kalau dikasih 2400an sy ikut nongkrong jg deh :)
   
   Regards
   
   
   2008/12/2, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..:
   
Kalo bbca gimana boss?? Ane naksir nih..
   
Sent from my BlackBerry(R)
powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
   
 - -
*From*: Halim Mintareja
*Date*: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:10:57 +0700
*To*: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
*Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
   
sekedar saya tambahkan aja..
   
kalau banking di indo..cari yang yang LK-nya sudah in deep shit
   
kalau LK masih show baik-baik aja model BBRI BMRI etc forget it 
  lah..
.risk vs reward gak sebanding
   
   
   
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Rei highwaystar91@ ... wrote:
   
Wah bu Fifi sdh bisa jadi senior OB nih hehehe
   
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM, fifi young 
  fifiyoung03@ ...wrote:
   
Pak Rei,
Let me give you some clues:
   
Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
Com Metal : ANTM, TINS, INCO
Agriculture : AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
Energy : PGAS
Banking : BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
Infra Structure : TLKM, ISAT
Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
Optional : ASII, UNTR, HEXA
   
Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
Tinggal pilih aja...
Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
BUY disaat market berdarah-darah,
lebih dalem.., belinya tambah banyak.. ..
   
simple 'kan?!
he... he...
   
Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur... ..,
milis OB... B U B A R dech...
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund 
  syifa.fund@ ...wrote:
   
   
   
*Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially 
  energy and
agriculture products), property and had been working in some 
  banking and
also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives with 
  business
diversities. * *I bought their stocks at really low price in 
  past. And
always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they 
  reach my target
price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my 
  portfolio.
It's my RAHASIA DAPUR. No one knows except my trader. I've 3 
  trader at 3
different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3 
  accounts
what should i do to be a good investor, because i used 
  different method on
my 3 accounts. *
**
*Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. **What 
  i'm
trying to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative manner, 
  i always buy
them if i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is PRICELESS 
  for me..
So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do 
  FILTERING, and if
possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and 
  do some
valuation.*
*For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not 
  good in TA
so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much 
  for MBah, Pak
JT, EL, and others).*
*Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member. 
  Thank you
very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
*For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio (RAHASIA
DAPURHEHE. .BUKAN RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR YA?).*
**
*Luv u all,*
**
*PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.*
**
**
**
*Regards,*
**
*SF FM*
*Where you can trust your fund*
   
--- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Rei highwaystar91@ ...* wrote:
   
   
From: Rei highwaystar91@ ...
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
   
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-02 Terurut Topik y_dizz
Buseet... Udah sekian lama, gue kirain nama beneran.

Masih suka main PS Pak? Gimana kalo kapan2 kita tanding Winning 
Eleven, mumpung market lagi kaya gini, enakan main game aja.



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dean Earwicker 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dean Earwicker itu aslinya nama jagoan di game
 Tekkenhttp://www.tekkenpedia.com/wiki/Steve_Fox#Trivia
 di PS2, kalo penasaran sih. Engga ada hubungan ama saham..hehe..
 
 Tapi saya suka aja soalnya kedengerannya ganteng.. wakaka.. boleh 
kan?
 
 Btw, kalo emang Pak Syifa serius mau cari client, coba kita dikasih
 profil/blog/website biar kita bisa lihat-lihat profilnya, saya 
yakin di OB
 banyak orang kaya yang lagi pegang cash dan bingung mau diapain. 
Sekedar
 saran aja.
 
 Regards,
 DE
 
 Pada 2 Desember 2008 14:14, SyIFA Fund [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis:
 
   *Wah...one of my fav give a statementwelcome Pak DE. I just 
want to
  wusssh for now...not mood in unended dispute...hehe...we're
  private...well, name is just a name...how bout your name? :) *
  *Why not Bapepam? So many reasons. You must have known why. *
  **
  **
  **
  *Regards,*
  **
  **
  **
  *SF FM*
  *Where you can trust your fund*
 
 
  --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
 
  From: Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 6:55 AM
 
 
   wah, OB udah mulai tambah hot nih, tanda-tanda alam. Si Bozz 
ngirim
  provokator2 buat mancing emosi trader (hyper optimis vs hyper 
pesimis,
  ekstrim), krn bozz tahu emotion control itu salah satu senjata 
trader. Kalau
  emosi di acak2, kita gak bisa trading di jalan yang lurus. Kali 
loh.
 
  btw, tadinya sy kira Syifa itu nama cewek taunya cowok ya. Saya 
cari di
  google engga ada perusahaan Syifa Fund.. Private Equity ya? Wah 
kalo ngaku
  FM tapi engga terdaftar di bapepam, maaf ya, rada kurang percaya 
gitu.
  Soalnya banyak penipuan sih.
 
  Dan satu hal yang engga kalah pentingnya, saya baru farewell 
party sama
  mbek2 kesayangan. 40% gain in 2 month, bozz aja gak dapet segitu..
  wakakaka..
 
  Regards,
  DE
 
  2008/12/2 Dick Q passion8899@ gmail.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   Sir,
  Di Milis ini, sejak index 2800-an sudah ada senior member yg 
kasih warn
  akan kejatuhan ekonomi yg terjadi saat ini.
  Sekarang index 1191, anda berbaik hati memberikan Warning about 
something
  wrong is going to be happened. :))
  makanya saya bilang simpan aja dalam dapur kalau hanya ingin 
memberikan
  warning tanpa ada argumentasi
  yg bisa menjadi masukan bagi kita semua. Cape de.
  Di sini saya tahu beberapa member yg handle private client, 
mereka tetap
  berbagi opinion about stocks yg mereka pilih.
  Saya tidak melihat itu suatu rahasia, karena dalam market 
tidak ada
  rahasia.
  Kalaupun kebetulan kita punya posisi yg sama, cuan nya belum 
tentu sama
  toh...
  And Please Note.. Kalaupun saya punya duit banyak... PASTI saya 
tidak akan
  jadi client anda.
  Cheers,
 
 
   - Original Message -
  *From:* SyIFA Fund [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:31 PM
  *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
 
 
 
  
 





Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-02 Terurut Topik ruzli
COPET kelas KAKAP
kekekekkk .


2008/12/2, jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

   Pasukan copet mulai bekerja di indf..., terdeteksi di running
 trade..,hehe.., 890-900 mulai digerogotin sikit-sikit...

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Pak JT,
  Volume di indf gimana? Apa masih normal atau meningkat ya?
  Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry(R)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:46:24
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
 
 
  lah kita minta diskon dong..., jangan main tubruk aja, indf masuk
  area tembak tuh.. Berani??
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 ruzli indeksbei3000@
  wrote:
  
   Boss JT, bukannya BBCA sudah kemahalan ?
   Kalau dikasih 2400an sy ikut nongkrong jg deh :)
  
   Regards
  
  
   2008/12/2, JsxTrader jsxtrader@:
   
Kalo bbca gimana boss?? Ane naksir nih..
   
Sent from my BlackBerry(R)
powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
   
--
*From*: Halim Mintareja
*Date*: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:10:57 +0700
*To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
 
*Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
   
sekedar saya tambahkan aja..
   
kalau banking di indo..cari yang yang LK-nya sudah in deep
 shit
   
kalau LK masih show baik-baik aja model BBRI BMRI etc forget
 it
  lah..
.risk vs reward gak sebanding
   
   
   
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Rei highwaystar91@ wrote:
   
Wah bu Fifi sdh bisa jadi senior OB nih hehehe
   
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM, fifi young
  fifiyoung03@wrote:
   
Pak Rei,
Let me give you some clues:
   
Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
Com Metal : ANTM, TINS, INCO
Agriculture : AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
Energy : PGAS
Banking : BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
Infra Structure : TLKM, ISAT
Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
Optional : ASII, UNTR, HEXA
   
Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
Tinggal pilih aja...
Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
BUY disaat market berdarah-darah,
lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak
   
simple 'kan?!
he... he...
   
Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur.,
milis OB... B U B A R dech...
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund
  syifa.fund@wrote:
   
   
   
*Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially
  energy and
agriculture products), property and had been working in some
  banking and
also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives
 with
  business
diversities.* *I bought their stocks at really low price in
  past. And
always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they
  reach my target
price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my
  portfolio.
It's my RAHASIA DAPUR. No one knows except my trader. I've
 3
  trader at 3
different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3
  accounts
what should i do to be a good investor, because i used
  different method on
my 3 accounts. *
**
*Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in.
 **What
  i'm
trying to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative
 manner,
  i always buy
them if i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is
 PRICELESS
  for me..
So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do
  FILTERING, and if
possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and
  do some
valuation.*
*For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not
  good in TA
so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much
  for MBah, Pak
JT, EL, and others).*
*Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member.
  Thank you
very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
*For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio (RAHASIA
DAPURHEHE..BUKAN RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR YA?).*
**
*Luv u all,*
**
*PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.*
**
**
**
*Regards,*
**
*SF FM*
*Where you can trust your fund*
   
--- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Rei highwaystar91@* wrote:
   
   
From: Rei highwaystar91@
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
   
Cc: syifa.fund@
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:24 AM
   
   
I agree, and thanks for the warning Sir...
Care to share which stocks you invest in? Thanks!
   
   
   
   
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM, SyIFA Fund
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] comsyifa.fund@
 wrote:
   
   
*Yup it's true that market always get panic, but do not
  forget
that some big BD (some of them are friends of mineI'm
 not
  joking.I'm
telling you remind me of my lecturer fabulous
 statement

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-02 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
IHSG intraday update

http://obrolanbandar.com/piwuptrend.htm



[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-02 Terurut Topik mr_goen.goen
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 IHSG intraday update
 
 http://obrolanbandar.com/piwuptrend.htm





Seperti kemarin Embah. BD mengikuti kemauan Embah.
IHSG close diatas 1185..



[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-02 Terurut Topik jsxtrader
Pasukan copet mulai bekerja di indf..., terdeteksi di running 
trade..,hehe.., 890-900 mulai digerogotin sikit-sikit...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pak JT,
 Volume di indf gimana? Apa masih normal atau meningkat ya? 
 Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
 
 -Original Message-
 From: jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:46:24 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
 
 
 lah kita minta diskon dong..., jangan main tubruk aja, indf masuk 
 area tembak tuh.. Berani??
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli indeksbei3000@ 
 wrote:
 
  Boss JT, bukannya BBCA sudah kemahalan ?
  Kalau dikasih 2400an sy ikut nongkrong jg deh :)
  
  Regards
  
  
  2008/12/2, JsxTrader jsxtrader@:
  
 Kalo bbca gimana boss?? Ane naksir nih..
  
   Sent from my BlackBerry(R)
   powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
  
   --
   *From*: Halim Mintareja
   *Date*: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:10:57 +0700
   *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
   *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
  
   sekedar saya tambahkan aja..
  
   kalau banking di indo..cari yang yang LK-nya sudah in deep 
shit
  
   kalau LK masih show baik-baik aja model BBRI BMRI etc forget 
it 
 lah..
   .risk vs reward gak sebanding
  
  
  
   On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Rei highwaystar91@ wrote:
  
   Wah bu Fifi sdh bisa jadi senior OB nih hehehe
  
   On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM, fifi young 
 fifiyoung03@wrote:
  
 Pak Rei,
   Let me give you some clues:
  
   Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
   Com Metal: ANTM, TINS, INCO
   Agriculture: AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
   Energy  : PGAS
   Banking: BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
   Infra Structure   : TLKM, ISAT
   Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
   Optional: ASII, UNTR, HEXA
  
   Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
   Tinggal pilih aja...
   Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
   BUY disaat market berdarah-darah,
   lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak
  
   simple 'kan?!
   he... he...
  
   Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur.,
   milis OB... B U B A R  dech...
 On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund 
 syifa.fund@wrote:
  
  
  
   *Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially 
 energy and
   agriculture products), property and had been working in some 
 banking and
   also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives 
with 
 business
   diversities.* *I bought their stocks at really low price in 
 past. And
   always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they 
 reach my target
   price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my 
 portfolio.
   It's my RAHASIA DAPUR. No one knows except my trader. I've 
3 
 trader at 3
   different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3 
 accounts
   what should i do to be a good investor, because i used 
 different method on
   my 3 accounts. *
   **
   *Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. 
**What 
 i'm
   trying to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative 
manner, 
 i always buy
   them if i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is 
PRICELESS 
 for me..
   So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do 
 FILTERING, and if
   possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and 
 do some
   valuation.*
   *For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not 
 good in TA
   so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much 
 for MBah, Pak
   JT, EL, and others).*
   *Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member. 
 Thank you
   very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
   *For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio (RAHASIA
   DAPURHEHE..BUKAN RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR YA?).*
   **
   *Luv u all,*
   **
   *PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.*
   **
   **
   **
   *Regards,*
   **
   *SF FM*
*Where you can trust your fund*
  
   --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Rei highwaystar91@* wrote:
  
  
   From: Rei highwaystar91@
   Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  
   Cc: syifa.fund@
   Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:24 AM
  
  
 I agree, and thanks for the warning Sir...
   Care to share which stocks you invest in? Thanks!
  
  
  
  
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM, SyIFA Fund 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] comsyifa.fund@
wrote:
  
  
   *Yup it's true that market always get panic, but do not 
 forget
   that some big BD (some of them are friends of mineI'm 
not 
 joking.I'm
   telling you remind me of my lecturer fabulous 
statement) 
 still try to
   sell their stock at higher, i'm not a bargain hunter, i'm 
not 
 a trader, i'm
   just an investor who hold his stock and always try to find 
 the undervalued
   one for the sake of my clients, i don't send FEAR but i 
send 
 WARNING

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-02 Terurut Topik jsxtrader
BBRI, kalau disiplin, harusnya tadi keluar dulu, target closing ngga 
tercapai, but that's ok, cuma beda gocap.., mungkin BD wants 
technical trader to get out. Berdoa aja ntar malem ijo.

JsxTrader

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sy ikutan masuk juga pak JT. Kecil2an. Hehe
 BBRI masih boleh hold gak? Kelihatannya mengarah ke 3100-an nih
 
 Regards,
 ND
 Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
 
 -Original Message-
 From: jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:11:01 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
 
 
 Pasukan copet mulai bekerja di indf..., terdeteksi di running 
 trade..,hehe.., 890-900 mulai digerogotin sikit-sikit...
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, nyaham.dong@ wrote:
 
  Pak JT,
  Volume di indf gimana? Apa masih normal atau meningkat ya? 
  Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
  
  -Original Message-
  From: jsxtrader jsxtrader@
  
  Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:46:24 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
  
  
  lah kita minta diskon dong..., jangan main tubruk aja, indf masuk 
  area tembak tuh.. Berani??
  
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli indeksbei3000@ 
  wrote:
  
   Boss JT, bukannya BBCA sudah kemahalan ?
   Kalau dikasih 2400an sy ikut nongkrong jg deh :)
   
   Regards
   
   
   2008/12/2, JsxTrader jsxtrader@:
   
  Kalo bbca gimana boss?? Ane naksir nih..
   
Sent from my BlackBerry(R)
powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
   
--
*From*: Halim Mintareja
*Date*: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:10:57 +0700
*To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
*Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
   
sekedar saya tambahkan aja..
   
kalau banking di indo..cari yang yang LK-nya sudah in deep 
 shit
   
kalau LK masih show baik-baik aja model BBRI BMRI etc 
forget 
 it 
  lah..
.risk vs reward gak sebanding
   
   
   
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Rei highwaystar91@ wrote:
   
Wah bu Fifi sdh bisa jadi senior OB nih hehehe
   
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM, fifi young 
  fifiyoung03@wrote:
   
  Pak Rei,
Let me give you some clues:
   
Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
Com Metal: ANTM, TINS, INCO
Agriculture: AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
Energy  : PGAS
Banking: BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
Infra Structure   : TLKM, ISAT
Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
Optional: ASII, UNTR, HEXA
   
Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
Tinggal pilih aja...
Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
BUY disaat market berdarah-darah,
lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak
   
simple 'kan?!
he... he...
   
Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur.,
milis OB... B U B A R  dech...
  On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund 
  syifa.fund@wrote:
   
   
   
*Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities 
(specially 
  energy and
agriculture products), property and had been working in 
some 
  banking and
also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives 
 with 
  business
diversities.* *I bought their stocks at really low price 
in 
  past. And
always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they 
  reach my target
price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my 
  portfolio.
It's my RAHASIA DAPUR. No one knows except my trader. 
I've 
 3 
  trader at 3
different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3 
  accounts
what should i do to be a good investor, because i used 
  different method on
my 3 accounts. *
**
*Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. 
 **What 
  i'm
trying to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative 
 manner, 
  i always buy
them if i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is 
 PRICELESS 
  for me..
So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do 
  FILTERING, and if
possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL 
and 
  do some
valuation.*
*For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm 
not 
  good in TA
so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so 
much 
  for MBah, Pak
JT, EL, and others).*
*Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist 
member. 
  Thank you
very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
*For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio 
(RAHASIA
DAPURHEHE..BUKAN RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR YA?).*
**
*Luv u all,*
**
*PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.*
**
**
**
*Regards,*
**
*SF FM*
 *Where you can trust your fund*
   
--- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Rei highwaystar91@* wrote:
   
   
From: Rei highwaystar91@
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
To: obrolan-bandar

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-02 Terurut Topik agoes_htm
Yth Bu Fifi,

Sorry no offense yach. Cuma mau kasih pendapat aja, masing2 AO 
(Broker) itu ada kode etiknya. Salah satu kode etik yaitu menjaga 
kerasahasiaan clientnya. Jadi AR (broker) seharusnya tidak 
membeberkan rahasia clientnya.


Thanks

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, fifi young 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sorry ye..!
 
 Gue mach 'ga pernah nanya2 isi dompet orang...
 malah gue ngasih tau ke orang isi perut gue...
 
 itu mach cuma bantu temen aja ngomong gitu...
 karena buat gue 'ga ada rahasianya...
 
 setiap broker pasti tau isi perut masing2 clients-nya...
 apa ngga akan ada AO yang ngomong keluar...?
 
 Isi perut HS aja orang2 pada tau,
 Jadi 'ga ada yang bisa diumpetin...
 
 
 On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Felicia Rumondor 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
Trading pake plan sendiri-sendiri lapingin banget siy tahu 
isi
  dompet orang??
 
  --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, fifi young [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
 
  From: fifi young [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 5:41 AM
 
 
   Pak Rei,
  Let me give you some clues:
 
  Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
  Com Metal: ANTM, TINS, INCO
  Agriculture: AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
  Energy  : PGAS
  Banking: BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
  Infra Structure   : TLKM, ISAT
  Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
  Optional: ASII, UNTR, HEXA
 
  Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
  Tinggal pilih aja
  Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
  BUY disaat market berdarah-darah,
  lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak.. ..
 
  simple 'kan?!
  he... he...
 
  Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur... ..,
  milis OB B U B A R  dech...
  On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
com[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
 
 
  *Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially 
energy and
  agriculture products), property and had been working in some 
banking and
  also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives with 
business
  diversities.* *I bought their stocks at really low price in 
past. And
  always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they reach 
my target
  price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my 
portfolio. It's
  my RAHASIA DAPUR. No one knows except my trader. I've 3 
trader at 3
  different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3 
accounts what
  should i do to be a good investor, because i used different 
method on my 3
  accounts. *
  **
  *Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. **What 
i'm trying
  to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative manner, i always 
buy them if
  i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is PRICELESS for me..
  So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do 
FILTERING, and if
  possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and do 
some
  valuation.*
  *For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not 
good in TA so
  I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much for 
MBah, Pak JT,
  EL, and others).*
  *Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member. 
Thank you
  very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
  *For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio (RAHASIA
  DAPUR.HEHE..BUKAN RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR YA?).*
  **
  *Luv u all,*
  **
  *PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.*
  **
  **
  **
  *Regards,*
  **
  *SF FM*
   *Where you can trust your fund*
  --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Rei highwaystar91@ 
gmail.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  * wrote:
 
  From: Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:24 AM
 
 
I agree, and thanks for the warning Sir...
  Care to share which stocks you invest in? Thanks!
 
 
 
 
  On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM, SyIFA Fund [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
com[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
 
  *Yup it's true that market always get panic, but do not 
forget that
  some big BD (some of them are friends of mineI'm not 
joking..I'm
  telling you remind me of my lecturer fabulous statement) 
still try to
  sell their stock at higher, i'm not a bargain hunter, i'm not 
a trader, i'm
  just an investor who hold his stock and always try to find the 
undervalued
  one for the sake of my clients, i don't send FEAR but i send 
WARNING if
  something is going to be happened in near terms. Just look at 
some of my
  post. Actually i love stocks that i'm involved in. Long term 
view will be
  great (buy and just hold) but short term view (like trading or 
bargain
  hunter) would be in extreme position (either earned so much or 
lost their
  money so much).
  If you are a trader, just PLAY carefully. If you are the 

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini...Gedubraaak

2008-12-02 Terurut Topik Sanjaya
100 billion dollars (dollarnya Zimbabwe (ZW$)) = GBP 0.34 atau USD 0.64  :)
, alias cuma 64 sen US$

 

Baca selengkapnya di :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimbabwe_dollar

In the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guardian  Guardian, on 18 July
2008, a report on Zimbabwe's inflation, said that an egg costs ZW$50 billion
(GBP 0.17, USD 0.32), and it showed adverts for prizes of Z$100 trillion in
a Zimbabwean derby and ZW$1.2 quadrillion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadrillion  ($1,200,000,000,000,000.00: ~GBP
2,100; USD 4,200) in a lottery http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lottery . It
also showed a monthly war pension currently is ZW$109 billion (GBP 0.37, USD
0.74), shops can only cash cheques if the customer writes double the amount,
because the cost will go up by the time the cheque has cleared, and people
can only withdraw a maximum of ZW$100 billion from cashpoints
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cashpoint .[46]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimbabwe_dollar#cite_note-45 

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of FromBuitenzorg
Sent: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:32 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini...Gedubraaak

 

Ah cape de, ada lagi di bawah ini si gdbrook punya 100 billion, IHSG 
nya bisa brak gedubaraakk hehehe.

gdbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am from Zimbabwe with 100 billion dollars wealth. I can hold share
 with that amount almost forever.
 It makes me suit to be your client.
 gdbrook
 



[obrolan-bandar] . Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-02 Terurut Topik Dharma Krisnadi
To DE : berarti pernah maen King of Fighter juga dong  , 
 
Anyway, hampir semua fund gede pernah getok redemption lumayan taon ini. Anda 
gak kena redempt SF ?


  

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-02 Terurut Topik y_dizz
Huh, sampe keringetan saya saking tegangnya liat menit2 akhir trading.

Close 1191, are we save now?



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, y_dizz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kritis, pasukan BULL dikeroyok. Pak Arto, ammo please...!!
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Chase 
 chase.vincent@ wrote:
 
  feeling sy yg mo cut loss besok di daerah 1205-1220an 
  
  jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ 
 wrote: IHSG intraday update
   
   http://obrolanbandar.com/piwuptrend.htm
 





Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-02 Terurut Topik Belajar Saham
kalo bumi 700an gimana pada ngambil gak???





From: jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 4:08:27 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini


BBRI, kalau disiplin, harusnya tadi keluar dulu, target closing ngga 
tercapai, but that's ok, cuma beda gocap.., mungkin BD wants 
technical trader to get out. Berdoa aja ntar malem ijo.

JsxTrader

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, nyaham..dong@ ... wrote:

 Sy ikutan masuk juga pak JT. Kecil2an. Hehe
 BBRI masih boleh hold gak? Kelihatannya mengarah ke 3100-an nih
 
 Regards,
 ND
 Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
 
 -Original Message-
 From: jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..
 
 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:11:01 
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
 
 
 Pasukan copet mulai bekerja di indf..., terdeteksi di running 
 trade..,hehe. ., 890-900 mulai digerogotin sikit-sikit. ..
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, nyaham.dong@ wrote:
 
  Pak JT,
  Volume di indf gimana? Apa masih normal atau meningkat ya? 
  Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
  
  -Original Message-
  From: jsxtrader jsxtrader@
  
  Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:46:24 
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
  
  
  lah kita minta diskon dong..., jangan main tubruk aja, indf masuk 
  area tembak tuh.. Berani??
  
  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, ruzli indeksbei3000@  
  wrote:
  
   Boss JT, bukannya BBCA sudah kemahalan ?
   Kalau dikasih 2400an sy ikut nongkrong jg deh :)
   
   Regards
   
   
   2008/12/2, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ :
   
  Kalo bbca gimana boss?? Ane naksir nih..
   
Sent from my BlackBerry(R)
powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
   
 - -
*From*: Halim Mintareja
*Date*: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:10:57 +0700
*To*: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
*Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
   
sekedar saya tambahkan aja..
   
kalau banking di indo..cari yang yang LK-nya sudah in deep 
 shit
   
kalau LK masih show baik-baik aja model BBRI BMRI etc 
forget 
 it 
  lah..
.risk vs reward gak sebanding
   
   
   
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Rei highwaystar91@  wrote:
   
Wah bu Fifi sdh bisa jadi senior OB nih hehehe
   
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM, fifi young 
  fifiyoung03@ wrote:
   
  Pak Rei,
Let me give you some clues:
   
Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
Com Metal: ANTM, TINS, INCO
Agriculture: AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
Energy  : PGAS
Banking: BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
Infra Structure   : TLKM, ISAT
Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
Optional: ASII, UNTR, HEXA
   
Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau 
Tinggal pilih aja...
Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
BUY disaat market berdarah-darah,
lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak.. ..
   
simple 'kan?!
he... he...
   
Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur... ..,
milis OB... B U B A R  dech...
  On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund 
  syifa.fund@ wrote:
   
   
   
*Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities 
(specially 
  energy and
agriculture products), property and had been working in 
some 
  banking and
also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives 
 with 
  business
diversities. * *I bought their stocks at really low price 
in 
  past. And
always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they 
  reach my target
price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my 
  portfolio.
It's my RAHASIA DAPUR. No one knows except my trader. 
I've 
 3 
  trader at 3
different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3 
  accounts
what should i do to be a good investor, because i used 
  different method on
my 3 accounts. *
**
*Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. 
 **What 
  i'm
trying to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative 
 manner, 
  i always buy
them if i know exactly what they are.. INFORMATION is 
 PRICELESS 
  for me..
So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do 
  FILTERING, and if
possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL 
and 
  do some
valuation.*
*For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm 
not 
  good in TA
so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so 
much 
  for MBah, Pak
JT, EL, and others).*
*Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist 
member. 
  Thank you
very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
*For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio 
(RAHASIA
DAPURHEHE. .BUKAN RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR YA?).*
**
*Luv u all,*
**
*PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-02 Terurut Topik Vincent Chase
feeling sy yg mo cut loss besok di daerah 1205-1220an 

jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IHSG 
intraday update
 
 http://obrolanbandar.com/piwuptrend.htm
 
 
 
   

   

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-02 Terurut Topik y_dizz
Kritis, pasukan BULL dikeroyok. Pak Arto, ammo please...!!


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Chase 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 feeling sy yg mo cut loss besok di daerah 1205-1220an 
 
 jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: IHSG intraday update
  
  http://obrolanbandar.com/piwuptrend.htm





Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-02 Terurut Topik nyaham . dong
Sy ikutan masuk juga pak JT. Kecil2an. Hehe
BBRI masih boleh hold gak? Kelihatannya mengarah ke 3100-an nih

Regards,
ND
Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®

-Original Message-
From: jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:11:01 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini


Pasukan copet mulai bekerja di indf..., terdeteksi di running 
trade..,hehe.., 890-900 mulai digerogotin sikit-sikit...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pak JT,
 Volume di indf gimana? Apa masih normal atau meningkat ya? 
 Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
 
 -Original Message-
 From: jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:46:24 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
 
 
 lah kita minta diskon dong..., jangan main tubruk aja, indf masuk 
 area tembak tuh.. Berani??
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli indeksbei3000@ 
 wrote:
 
  Boss JT, bukannya BBCA sudah kemahalan ?
  Kalau dikasih 2400an sy ikut nongkrong jg deh :)
  
  Regards
  
  
  2008/12/2, JsxTrader jsxtrader@:
  
 Kalo bbca gimana boss?? Ane naksir nih..
  
   Sent from my BlackBerry(R)
   powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
  
   --
   *From*: Halim Mintareja
   *Date*: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:10:57 +0700
   *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
   *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
  
   sekedar saya tambahkan aja..
  
   kalau banking di indo..cari yang yang LK-nya sudah in deep 
shit
  
   kalau LK masih show baik-baik aja model BBRI BMRI etc forget 
it 
 lah..
   .risk vs reward gak sebanding
  
  
  
   On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Rei highwaystar91@ wrote:
  
   Wah bu Fifi sdh bisa jadi senior OB nih hehehe
  
   On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM, fifi young 
 fifiyoung03@wrote:
  
 Pak Rei,
   Let me give you some clues:
  
   Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
   Com Metal: ANTM, TINS, INCO
   Agriculture: AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
   Energy  : PGAS
   Banking: BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
   Infra Structure   : TLKM, ISAT
   Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
   Optional: ASII, UNTR, HEXA
  
   Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
   Tinggal pilih aja...
   Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
   BUY disaat market berdarah-darah,
   lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak
  
   simple 'kan?!
   he... he...
  
   Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur.,
   milis OB... B U B A R  dech...
 On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund 
 syifa.fund@wrote:
  
  
  
   *Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially 
 energy and
   agriculture products), property and had been working in some 
 banking and
   also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives 
with 
 business
   diversities.* *I bought their stocks at really low price in 
 past. And
   always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they 
 reach my target
   price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my 
 portfolio.
   It's my RAHASIA DAPUR. No one knows except my trader. I've 
3 
 trader at 3
   different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3 
 accounts
   what should i do to be a good investor, because i used 
 different method on
   my 3 accounts. *
   **
   *Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. 
**What 
 i'm
   trying to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative 
manner, 
 i always buy
   them if i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is 
PRICELESS 
 for me..
   So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do 
 FILTERING, and if
   possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and 
 do some
   valuation.*
   *For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not 
 good in TA
   so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much 
 for MBah, Pak
   JT, EL, and others).*
   *Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member. 
 Thank you
   very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
   *For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio (RAHASIA
   DAPURHEHE..BUKAN RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR YA?).*
   **
   *Luv u all,*
   **
   *PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.*
   **
   **
   **
   *Regards,*
   **
   *SF FM*
*Where you can trust your fund*
  
   --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Rei highwaystar91@* wrote:
  
  
   From: Rei highwaystar91@
   Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  
   Cc: syifa.fund@
   Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:24 AM
  
  
 I agree, and thanks for the warning Sir...
   Care to share which stocks you invest in? Thanks!
  
  
  
  
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM, SyIFA Fund 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] comsyifa.fund@
wrote:
  
  
   *Yup it's true that market always get panic, but do not 
 forget
   that some big BD (some of them are friends of mineI'm

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-02 Terurut Topik Vincent Chase
waduh gak nyangka sy dapet indf di 880,padahal kemaren kompor kompor dah pada 
nyala... 

jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pasukan copet 
mulai bekerja di indf..., terdeteksi di running 
 trade..,hehe.., 890-900 mulai digerogotin sikit-sikit...
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Pak JT,
  Volume di indf gimana? Apa masih normal atau meningkat ya? 
  Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
  
  -Original Message-
  From: jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:46:24 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
  
  
  lah kita minta diskon dong..., jangan main tubruk aja, indf masuk 
  area tembak tuh.. Berani??
  
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli indeksbei3000@ 
  wrote:
  
   Boss JT, bukannya BBCA sudah kemahalan ?
   Kalau dikasih 2400an sy ikut nongkrong jg deh :)
   
   Regards
   
   
   2008/12/2, JsxTrader jsxtrader@:
   
  Kalo bbca gimana boss?? Ane naksir nih..
   
Sent from my BlackBerry(R)
powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
   
--
*From*: Halim Mintareja
*Date*: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:10:57 +0700
*To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
*Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
   
sekedar saya tambahkan aja..
   
kalau banking di indo..cari yang yang LK-nya sudah in deep 
 shit
   
kalau LK masih show baik-baik aja model BBRI BMRI etc forget 
 it 
  lah..
.risk vs reward gak sebanding
   
   
   
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Rei highwaystar91@ wrote:
   
Wah bu Fifi sdh bisa jadi senior OB nih hehehe
   
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM, fifi young 
  fifiyoung03@wrote:
   
  Pak Rei,
Let me give you some clues:
   
Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
Com Metal: ANTM, TINS, INCO
Agriculture: AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
Energy  : PGAS
Banking: BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
Infra Structure   : TLKM, ISAT
Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
Optional: ASII, UNTR, HEXA
   
Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
Tinggal pilih aja...
Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
BUY disaat market berdarah-darah,
lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak
   
simple 'kan?!
he... he...
   
Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur.,
milis OB... B U B A R  dech...
  On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund 
  syifa.fund@wrote:
   
   
   
*Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially 
  energy and
agriculture products), property and had been working in some 
  banking and
also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives 
 with 
  business
diversities.* *I bought their stocks at really low price in 
  past. And
always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they 
  reach my target
price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my 
  portfolio.
It's my RAHASIA DAPUR. No one knows except my trader. I've 
 3 
  trader at 3
different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3 
  accounts
what should i do to be a good investor, because i used 
  different method on
my 3 accounts. *
**
*Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. 
 **What 
  i'm
trying to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative 
 manner, 
  i always buy
them if i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is 
 PRICELESS 
  for me..
So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do 
  FILTERING, and if
possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and 
  do some
valuation.*
*For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not 
  good in TA
so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much 
  for MBah, Pak
JT, EL, and others).*
*Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member. 
  Thank you
very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
*For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio (RAHASIA
DAPURHEHE..BUKAN RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR YA?).*
**
*Luv u all,*
**
*PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.*
**
**
**
*Regards,*
**
*SF FM*
 *Where you can trust your fund*
   
--- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Rei highwaystar91@* wrote:
   
   
From: Rei highwaystar91@
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
   
Cc: syifa.fund@
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:24 AM
   
   
  I agree, and thanks for the warning Sir...
Care to share which stocks you invest in? Thanks!
   
   
   
   
 On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM, SyIFA Fund 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] comsyifa.fund@
 wrote:
   
   
*Yup it's true that market always get panic, but do not 
  forget
that some big BD (some of them are friends of mineI'm

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-02 Terurut Topik FromBuitenzorg
... beli merah jual merah, tapi dengan posisi merah lower neagatif 
masih bisa gain juga :)

Rgrds



[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-02 Terurut Topik tjetjun
KZ dan BK lagi marah, indf katanya mulai buy back dari desember ya ? 
tau2nya gak muncul2. jadi dikiranya nanti spt bumi, gak jadi buy 
back.. marah tuh

thks

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Chase 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 waduh gak nyangka sy dapet indf di 880,padahal kemaren kompor 
kompor dah pada nyala... 
 
 jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Pasukan copet mulai bekerja di indf..., terdeteksi di running 
  trade..,hehe.., 890-900 mulai digerogotin sikit-sikit...
  
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, nyaham.dong@ wrote:
  
   Pak JT,
   Volume di indf gimana? Apa masih normal atau meningkat ya? 
   Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
   
   -Original Message-
   From: jsxtrader jsxtrader@
   
   Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:46:24 
   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
   
   
   lah kita minta diskon dong..., jangan main tubruk aja, indf 
masuk 
   area tembak tuh.. Berani??
   
   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli indeksbei3000@ 
   wrote:
   
Boss JT, bukannya BBCA sudah kemahalan ?
Kalau dikasih 2400an sy ikut nongkrong jg deh :)

Regards


2008/12/2, JsxTrader jsxtrader@:

   Kalo bbca gimana boss?? Ane naksir nih..

 Sent from my BlackBerry(R)
 powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT

 --
 *From*: Halim Mintareja
 *Date*: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:10:57 +0700
 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini

 sekedar saya tambahkan aja..

 kalau banking di indo..cari yang yang LK-nya sudah in deep 
  shit

 kalau LK masih show baik-baik aja model BBRI BMRI etc 
forget 
  it 
   lah..
 .risk vs reward gak sebanding



 On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Rei highwaystar91@ wrote:

 Wah bu Fifi sdh bisa jadi senior OB nih hehehe

 On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM, fifi young 
   fifiyoung03@wrote:

   Pak Rei,
 Let me give you some clues:

 Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
 Com Metal: ANTM, TINS, INCO
 Agriculture: AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
 Energy  : PGAS
 Banking: BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
 Infra Structure   : TLKM, ISAT
 Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
 Optional: ASII, UNTR, HEXA

 Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
 Tinggal pilih aja...
 Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
 BUY disaat market berdarah-darah,
 lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak

 simple 'kan?!
 he... he...

 Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur.,
 milis OB... B U B A R  dech...
   On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund 
   syifa.fund@wrote:



 *Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities 
(specially 
   energy and
 agriculture products), property and had been working in 
some 
   banking and
 also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives 
  with 
   business
 diversities.* *I bought their stocks at really low price 
in 
   past. And
 always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they 
   reach my target
 price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my 
   portfolio.
 It's my RAHASIA DAPUR. No one knows except my trader. 
I've 
  3 
   trader at 3
 different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 
3 
   accounts
 what should i do to be a good investor, because i used 
   different method on
 my 3 accounts. *
 **
 *Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. 
  **What 
   i'm
 trying to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative 
  manner, 
   i always buy
 them if i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is 
  PRICELESS 
   for me..
 So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do 
   FILTERING, and if
 possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL 
and 
   do some
 valuation.*
 *For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm 
not 
   good in TA
 so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so 
much 
   for MBah, Pak
 JT, EL, and others).*
 *Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist 
member. 
   Thank you
 very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
 *For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio 
(RAHASIA
 DAPURHEHE..BUKAN RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR YA?).*
 **
 *Luv u all,*
 **
 *PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.*
 **
 **
 **
 *Regards,*
 **
 *SF FM*
  *Where you can trust your fund*

 --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Rei highwaystar91@* wrote:


 From: Rei highwaystar91@
 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com

 Cc: syifa.fund@
 Date: Tuesday, December

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-02 Terurut Topik jsxtrader
Pasukan copet mulai bekerja di indf..., terdeteksi di running 
trade..,hehe.., 890-900 mulai digerogotin sikit-sikit...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pak JT,
 Volume di indf gimana? Apa masih normal atau meningkat ya? 
 Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
 
 -Original Message-
 From: jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:46:24 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
 
 
 lah kita minta diskon dong..., jangan main tubruk aja, indf masuk 
 area tembak tuh.. Berani??
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli indeksbei3000@ 
 wrote:
 
  Boss JT, bukannya BBCA sudah kemahalan ?
  Kalau dikasih 2400an sy ikut nongkrong jg deh :)
  
  Regards
  
  
  2008/12/2, JsxTrader jsxtrader@:
  
 Kalo bbca gimana boss?? Ane naksir nih..
  
   Sent from my BlackBerry(R)
   powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
  
   --
   *From*: Halim Mintareja
   *Date*: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:10:57 +0700
   *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
   *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
  
   sekedar saya tambahkan aja..
  
   kalau banking di indo..cari yang yang LK-nya sudah in deep 
shit
  
   kalau LK masih show baik-baik aja model BBRI BMRI etc forget 
it 
 lah..
   .risk vs reward gak sebanding
  
  
  
   On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Rei highwaystar91@ wrote:
  
   Wah bu Fifi sdh bisa jadi senior OB nih hehehe
  
   On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM, fifi young 
 fifiyoung03@wrote:
  
 Pak Rei,
   Let me give you some clues:
  
   Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
   Com Metal: ANTM, TINS, INCO
   Agriculture: AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
   Energy  : PGAS
   Banking: BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
   Infra Structure   : TLKM, ISAT
   Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
   Optional: ASII, UNTR, HEXA
  
   Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
   Tinggal pilih aja...
   Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
   BUY disaat market berdarah-darah,
   lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak
  
   simple 'kan?!
   he... he...
  
   Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur.,
   milis OB... B U B A R  dech...
 On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund 
 syifa.fund@wrote:
  
  
  
   *Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially 
 energy and
   agriculture products), property and had been working in some 
 banking and
   also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives 
with 
 business
   diversities.* *I bought their stocks at really low price in 
 past. And
   always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they 
 reach my target
   price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my 
 portfolio.
   It's my RAHASIA DAPUR. No one knows except my trader. I've 
3 
 trader at 3
   different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3 
 accounts
   what should i do to be a good investor, because i used 
 different method on
   my 3 accounts. *
   **
   *Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. 
**What 
 i'm
   trying to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative 
manner, 
 i always buy
   them if i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is 
PRICELESS 
 for me..
   So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do 
 FILTERING, and if
   possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and 
 do some
   valuation.*
   *For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not 
 good in TA
   so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much 
 for MBah, Pak
   JT, EL, and others).*
   *Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member. 
 Thank you
   very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
   *For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio (RAHASIA
   DAPURHEHE..BUKAN RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR YA?).*
   **
   *Luv u all,*
   **
   *PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.*
   **
   **
   **
   *Regards,*
   **
   *SF FM*
*Where you can trust your fund*
  
   --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Rei highwaystar91@* wrote:
  
  
   From: Rei highwaystar91@
   Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  
   Cc: syifa.fund@
   Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:24 AM
  
  
 I agree, and thanks for the warning Sir...
   Care to share which stocks you invest in? Thanks!
  
  
  
  
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM, SyIFA Fund 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] comsyifa.fund@
wrote:
  
  
   *Yup it's true that market always get panic, but do not 
 forget
   that some big BD (some of them are friends of mineI'm 
not 
 joking.I'm
   telling you remind me of my lecturer fabulous 
statement) 
 still try to
   sell their stock at higher, i'm not a bargain hunter, i'm 
not 
 a trader, i'm
   just an investor who hold his stock and always try to find 
 the undervalued
   one for the sake of my clients, i don't send FEAR but i 
send 
 WARNING

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-02 Terurut Topik poetra
1185 untuk hari ini mbah? Sekiranya baru jebol besok (tidak lebih tinggi
dari hari ini) apakah uptrend berakhir? Berarti lpkr sudah bisa jadi
patokan lagi  mbah :)

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 IHSG intraday update

 http://obrolanbandar.com/piwuptrend.htm





[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini BULL SHIT

2008-12-02 Terurut Topik y_dizz
Sabar El, be CALM and COOL.

You don't need to counter all of negative posting in this mailist.

p.s: Gue takut nih kalo El ngamuk, dia sekali ngeshort bisa mampus 
kita



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 *I said that YESTERFRICKINGDAY, you dumb ass. Read again.
 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/122293
 
 Elaine tidak pernah bilang bandar, artomoro bilang tangan bozz. 
Oentoeng
 bilang teman bozz. Elaine hanya manage investor, cari uang dari 
account
 investor institutional, including bakrie. Kalau Elaine hired by 
Bakrie, masa
 dulu suruh jual.. bodoh. Bandar/bozz, that's a slang used by OBs, 
it has
 nothing to do with me. To me bandar and traders are all the same. 
They tend
 to fight with each other.
 
 I have no problem with Artomoro or Oentoeng, what's got into you? 
had a bad
 sex last night..? ^_^ cheer up man.
 
 Elaine
 **



[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini BULL SHIT

2008-12-02 Terurut Topik tjetjun
Pak G-Man, dan Dek Elaine, jangan marah.. tapi dik Elaine pernah loh 
yang dikatakannya bener2 terjadi berikut waktu pemberiannya dan 
persennya. coba cari postingan dik elaine dulu.. mungkin ajah 
kebetulan. tapi waktu itu lagi bearish banget, dan katanya akan naik 
dalam .. hari.. naik 30% beberapa saham yang ditunjukkan..

jadi tenang ajah, ambil semuanya sebagai data ajah

 
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 *I said that YESTERFRICKINGDAY, you dumb ass. Read again.
 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/122293
 
 Elaine tidak pernah bilang bandar, artomoro bilang tangan bozz. 
Oentoeng
 bilang teman bozz. Elaine hanya manage investor, cari uang dari 
account
 investor institutional, including bakrie. Kalau Elaine hired by 
Bakrie, masa
 dulu suruh jual.. bodoh. Bandar/bozz, that's a slang used by OBs, 
it has
 nothing to do with me. To me bandar and traders are all the same. 
They tend
 to fight with each other.
 
 I have no problem with Artomoro or Oentoeng, what's got into you? 
had a bad
 sex last night..? ^_^ cheer up man.
 
 Elaine
 **
 *2008/12/2 G - MAN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 El – El,
 
 
 
  Saya sih dukung anda mo ngomong bullish…
 
 
 
  Tapi saya sarankan jangan terlalu gede mulut.
 
 
 
  IDX lu tinggal berantakan? Liat dong, DJIA – 679.
 
 
 
  Regional juga merah.
 
 
 
 
 
  Soal BUMI … hahaha gua ngga tau lu Bandar darimana,
 
 
 
  Tapi soal BUMI lo salah besar.  Itu soalan duit yg geeed 
banget.
 
 
 
  Soal angkat index juga bukan soalan kecil coy
 
 
 
  Gua sih org kecil, Cuma soal BUMI dan para csnya, gua sih tau
 
 
 
  Ngga usah di koar2 disini.  Lo pastinya bukan anak buahnya AbuBa, 
itu yg
  gua yakin.
 
 
 
 
 
  Gini aje deh El,
 
 
 
  Dari pada orang2 penasaran dan lu bullshit terus, gmn kalo lu 
show?
 
 
 
  Sebut dari tanggal berapa, saham apa / index mao keberapa secara 
tepat.
 
 
 
  Jng bilang ngga bisa.  The real BD bisa…. Itupun kalo lo orang 
semua kenal
  BD yg asli.
 
 
 
  Kita langsung takluk deh sama lu. Gua sendiri akan panggil lu 
guru kek,
  raja kek apa yg lu mao deh.
 
 
 
  Kalo bisa 2 - 3 kali. Jgn OMDO.
 
 
 
  Keadaan BD kaya sebenernya apa juga kita tahu
 
 
 
 
 
  Gitu2 Artomoro berusaha semangatin orang, tanpa perlu di upahin / 
di puja2
  orang.
 
 
 
  Liat dong JSX trader, Tasrul, JH, dll, bagi TA secara gratis 
tanpa pamrih,
  tanpa OMDO,
 
 
 
  Biar si SYlar Fund ngomong gede sama JSXTrader, tapi dia humble 
aja tuh.
 
 
 
 
 
  Ayo para jago omong Gede, kluarkan bukti ngomonganlu….
 
 
 
  Jangan dipikir orang bisa percaya langsung ya.
 
 
 
  Mumpung sekarang transaksi BEI harian Cuma 1 – 2 T, kecil kan 
buat BD
  berkuasa kaya lu semua…
 
 
 
  BD Gede tu ngga pake omong, langsung kerja.
 
 
 
  BD Gede itu lintas jalur semua ada. Bahkan pemerintah pun kadang2 
dukung.
 
 
 
 
 
  Sebel gua, udah ditahan2in masih juga gini ari ada celepuk 
ngomong gede
  melulu. Ngga abis2 lagi.
 
 
 
  Makin didiemin makin ngelunjak
 
 
 
  Kalo ngga berani show, tambahin deh embel2 diblk namalu 
pada BULLSHITTER
 
 
 
 
 
  SALAM SEBEL
 
 
 
  G - MAN
   
 





[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini BULL SHIT

2008-12-02 Terurut Topik Harry
Nah yang koar-koar gak ada etika biasanya dah putus harapan, sana
koar2 di kuburan n gali kuburan sendiri..!

Bahasanya kok caci maki melulu, mbok sesama warga milist OB mestinya
disupport. Namanya Informasi silakan di filter dulu, toh
informasi2/isu2 bukan cuma ada di OB saja.

Walaupun anda pernah dirugikan secara material by Elaine, toh bukan di
milis tempatnya (bisa japri). Ingat pak, buanyaaak yang baca..!




Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini BULL SHIT

2008-12-02 Terurut Topik Dean Earwicker
Kalau kita rugi, sebaiknya kita stop, lalu introspeksi salahnya dimana.
Kalau kita untung, sebaiknya juga kita stop, lalu evaluasi dimana benernya.

Kalau udah ngeh mana yang salah, mana yang bener, baru masuk lagi.Terus
evaluasi, sampai ketemu style trading masing-masing. Saya sendiri gak
mungkin ngikuti gaya pak JT yang super short term, atau EL yang super long
term, atau siapapun, pasti tiap trader punya style masing-masing.

To EL  G-MAN:
mohon sekali, gaya komunikasi orang Indonesia umumnya tidak biasa dengan
sarcasm. Mungkin di US sarcasm dianggap sebagai joke dan bentuk keakraban,
tapi disini bisa dianggap sindiran/penghinaan/menyela. Kalau kata orang
Jerman ngenyek. Tapi tergantung forum sih, kalau semuanya bilang ndak
masalah, ya saya ikut aja.

Tapi ngomong soal budaya, di Jawa Timuran dan stereotype orang Betawi juga
sering ditemukan celaan/sarcasm yang sebetulnya bentuk keakraban seperti
kata janc**, mukeg*le, dst.. coba lihat di senetron yang temanya adat
betawi, keliatan jelas deh.

Jadi saya ga heran ada yang merasa akrab, tapi ada juga yang merasa
panas kalau ada posting hot di milis. Saya sendiri ndak masalah, toh
kembali ke style, tiap orang punya gaya masing-masing, baik dalam trading
maupun posting. Asal tidak menyerang individu/personal dan utamanya YANG
PENTING COAN gitu loh.


Regrads,
DE

Pada 3 Desember 2008 01:26, Harry [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis:

 Nah yang koar-koar gak ada etika biasanya dah putus harapan, sana
 koar2 di kuburan n gali kuburan sendiri..!

 Bahasanya kok caci maki melulu, mbok sesama warga milist OB mestinya
 disupport. Namanya Informasi silakan di filter dulu, toh
 informasi2/isu2 bukan cuma ada di OB saja.

 Walaupun anda pernah dirugikan secara material by Elaine, toh bukan di
 milis tempatnya (bisa japri). Ingat pak, buanyaaak yang baca..!



 

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-01 Terurut Topik bejwatch

Dulu pernah baca dimana gitu...

Inti pesannya kita supaya jangan terjebak pada BEAR vs BULL,

sarannya cuman Buy from PESIMIST and sell to OPTIMIST

Begitu khan pak JT?


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, SyIFA Fund [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Incredible struggling from what so called BULL WARRIOR Pak
JT...hebuat.against the BEAR.what an amazing
marketBULL v.s BEAR (which one you will pick to be the winner for
today)


 Regards,


 SF FM
 Where you can trust your fund


 --- On Tue, 12/2/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 3:41 AM

 Wah banyak yg bisa dibekel tuh…., dipilih-dipilih…., udh
seringkan kejadian seperti hari ini kan? Dua hari lalu saat banyak yg
terbengong-bengong liat IHSG naik kenceng, pasti banyak yg mengharapkan
koreksi seperti hari ini…, hehe.., saya masih nawar PTBA sama TLKM
nih…, lom dikasih-kasih… , PGAS kelihatannya cukup kuat, so far
BDnya sangat `bertanggung jawab'…hehe  Dalam masa sideways ini,
gereral rulenya; Buy at support.., Sell at resistance…  From:
obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ps.com] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
 Sent: 02 Desember 2008 9:49
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini  Pak JT, kalo ngeliat ada
yg bisa dicopet2, kabar2-i ya.From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-01 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Buat SF FM,

Mungkin logika bisnis para trader seperti ini:

- Do the trade when The Reward  The Risk
- The Risk is the STOP LOSS level (=1177)
- Suppose you Buy at 1185 level (the previous Low support)
- The RISK is (1077-1085) = -8 point.
- Now IHSG is at 1192
- The trader still gain 7 point by now.

SO, It is irrelevant whether IHSG close plus or minus or the bear
win over the bear.

They JUST take the business opportunity from the trading RANGE,
of course today's IHSG trading range is NOT good. But may be,
pak JT find stocks with GOOD trading range... 


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I really don't know Sir.., saya friend of both.., kalau lagi cash 
ikut Pak
 Oen, kalau lagi Full ikut Bull..haha, they both give so many 
opportunity for
 trader.., tapi saya akan lawan orang-orang yg Cuma bisa menebarkan 
FEAR
 doang, karena sangat merugikan orang lain., sebab basically, tampa 
mesti
 ditakut-takuti, mereka sdh terlalu ketakutan dan gampang panic.
 
  
 
 Well, seperti kata Mbah, market lama-lama juga imun sama DOW.., 
jangan lupa,
 bargain hunter siap serbu wall street as usual., don't you think 
so, Sir?
 
  
 
 Regards,
 
 JsxTrader
 
  
 
 From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of SyIFA Fund
 Sent: 02 Desember 2008 10:49
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
 
  
 
 
 Incredible struggling from what so called BULL WARRIOR Pak
 JT...hebuatagainst the BEAR.what an amazing 
marketBULL
 v.s BEAR (which one you will pick to be the winner for today)
 
 
 Regards,
 
 
 SF FM
 Where you can trust your fund
 
 
 --- On Tue, 12/2/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 3:41 AM
 
 Wah banyak yg bisa dibekel tuh.., dipilih-dipilih.., udh seringkan 
kejadian
 seperti hari ini kan? Dua hari lalu saat banyak yg terbengong-
bengong liat
 IHSG naik kenceng, pasti banyak yg mengharapkan koreksi seperti 
hari ini.,
 hehe.., saya masih nawar PTBA sama TLKM nih., lom dikasih-kasih. , 
PGAS
 kelihatannya cukup kuat, so far BDnya sangat 'bertanggung 
jawab'.hehe 
 
  
 
 Dalam masa sideways ini, gereral rulenya; Buy at support.., Sell at
 resistance.
 
  
 
 From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ps.com] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
 Sent: 02 Desember 2008 9:49
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
 
  
 
 Pak JT, 
 
 kalo ngeliat ada yg bisa dicopet2, kabar2-i ya.
 
  
 
  
 
 From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ps.com] On Behalf Of JsxTrader
 Sent: Tuesday, 2 December 2008 12:46 PM
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
 
  
 
 15 menit pertama ngga jelek-jelek amat lah., awas kegocek bule  !!
 
  
 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-01 Terurut Topik jsxtrader
Exactly Mbah, what we care is Trading Range.., contoh BBRI, kasih 
range yang baik sekali hari ini.., indikasinya, GAP DOWN with low 
volume.., langsung mental lagi..

ok, let say hari ini bisa close di 3150, we have 200 perak.., kalau 
bisa bungkus dan BBRI balik lagi besok2 ke 3400'an, kita sudah dapet 
steak lagi Mbah..., tentu risk selalu ada, mangkanya saya bilang 
kalau ngga kuat 3150, balik badan dulu.., CL dong?? tergantung kita 
melihatnya.., kalau besok dapet lagi lower, kan lebih untung.., after 
all, kita kemarin exit di 3475 (entry 2450), so total general masih 
aman. 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Buat SF FM,
 
 Mungkin logika bisnis para trader seperti ini:
 
 - Do the trade when The Reward  The Risk
 - The Risk is the STOP LOSS level (=1177)
 - Suppose you Buy at 1185 level (the previous Low support)
 - The RISK is (1077-1085) = -8 point.
 - Now IHSG is at 1192
 - The trader still gain 7 point by now.
 
 SO, It is irrelevant whether IHSG close plus or minus or the bear
 win over the bear.
 
 They JUST take the business opportunity from the trading RANGE,
 of course today's IHSG trading range is NOT good. But may be,
 pak JT find stocks with GOOD trading range... 
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ 
 wrote:
 
  I really don't know Sir.., saya friend of both.., kalau lagi cash 
 ikut Pak
  Oen, kalau lagi Full ikut Bull..haha, they both give so many 
 opportunity for
  trader.., tapi saya akan lawan orang-orang yg Cuma bisa 
menebarkan 
 FEAR
  doang, karena sangat merugikan orang lain., sebab basically, 
tampa 
 mesti
  ditakut-takuti, mereka sdh terlalu ketakutan dan gampang panic.
  
   
  
  Well, seperti kata Mbah, market lama-lama juga imun sama DOW.., 
 jangan lupa,
  bargain hunter siap serbu wall street as usual., don't you think 
 so, Sir?
  
   
  
  Regards,
  
  JsxTrader
  
   
  
  From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of SyIFA Fund
  Sent: 02 Desember 2008 10:49
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
  
   
  
  
  Incredible struggling from what so called BULL WARRIOR Pak
  JT...hebuatagainst the BEAR.what an amazing 
 marketBULL
  v.s BEAR (which one you will pick to be the winner for today)
  
  
  Regards,
  
  
  SF FM
  Where you can trust your fund
  
  
  --- On Tue, 12/2/08, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ wrote:
  
  From: JsxTrader jsxtrader@
  Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 3:41 AM
  
  Wah banyak yg bisa dibekel tuh.., dipilih-dipilih.., udh 
seringkan 
 kejadian
  seperti hari ini kan? Dua hari lalu saat banyak yg terbengong-
 bengong liat
  IHSG naik kenceng, pasti banyak yg mengharapkan koreksi seperti 
 hari ini.,
  hehe.., saya masih nawar PTBA sama TLKM nih., lom dikasih-
kasih. , 
 PGAS
  kelihatannya cukup kuat, so far BDnya sangat 'bertanggung 
 jawab'.hehe 
  
   
  
  Dalam masa sideways ini, gereral rulenya; Buy at support.., Sell 
at
  resistance.
  
   
  
  From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ps.com] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
  Sent: 02 Desember 2008 9:49
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
  
   
  
  Pak JT, 
  
  kalo ngeliat ada yg bisa dicopet2, kabar2-i ya.
  
   
  
   
  
  From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ps.com] On Behalf Of JsxTrader
  Sent: Tuesday, 2 December 2008 12:46 PM
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
  
   
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-01 Terurut Topik Rei
No problem pak, thank you.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, SyIFA Fund [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially energy 
and agriculture products), property and had been working in some 
banking and also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives 
with business diversities. I bought their stocks at really low price 
in past. And always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF 
they reach my target price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't 
tell you my portfolio. It's my RAHASIA DAPUR. No one knows except 
my trader. I've 3 trader at 3 different brokerage firms.. and i 
learned so much from my 3 accounts what should i do to be a good 
investor, because i used different method on my 3 accounts. 
  
 Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. What i'm 
trying to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative manner, i 
always buy them if i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is 
PRICELESS for me. So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i 
can, do FILTERING, and if possible getting close with the OWNER. Then 
get my EXCEL and do some valuation.
 For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not good in 
TA so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much for 
MBah, Pak JT, EL, and others).
 Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member. Thank 
you very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. 
 For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio (RAHASIA 
DAPUR...HEHE..BUKAN RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR YA?).
  
 Luv u all,
  
 PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.
  
  
  
 Regards,
  
 SF FM
 Where you can trust your fund
 
 
 --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 From: Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:24 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I agree, and thanks for the warning Sir...
 Care to share which stocks you invest in? Thanks!
  
 
 
  
 On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM, SyIFA Fund [EMAIL PROTECTED] com 
wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Yup it's true that market always get panic, but do not forget that 
some big BD (some of them are friends of mineI'm not 
jokingI'm telling you remind me of my lecturer fabulous 
statement) still try to sell their stock at higher, i'm not a bargain 
hunter, i'm not a trader, i'm just an investor who hold his stock and 
always try to find the undervalued one for the sake of my clients, i 
don't send FEAR but i send WARNING if something is going to be 
happened in near terms. Just look at some of my post. Actually i love 
stocks that i'm involved in. Long term view will be great (buy and 
just hold) but short term view (like trading or bargain hunter) would 
be in extreme position (either earned so much or lost their money so 
much).. 
 If you are a trader, just PLAY carefully. If you are the owner, 
then BUY carefully. 
 
 
 Regards,
 
 SF FM
 Where you can trust your fund
 
 
 --- On Tue, 12/2/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:
 
 From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
 Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:00 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I really don't know Sir.., saya friend of both.., kalau lagi cash 
ikut Pak Oen, kalau lagi Full ikut BullEhaha, they both give so many 
opportunity for traderE, tapi saya akan lawan orang-orang yg Cuma 
bisa menebarkan FEAR doang, karena sangat merugikan orang lainE 
sebab basically, tampa mesti ditakut-takuti, mereka sdh terlalu 
ketakutan dan gampang panic.
  
 Well, seperti kata Mbah, market lama-lama juga imun sama DOW.., 
jangan lupa, bargain hunter siap serbu wall street as usualE don't 
you think so, Sir?
  
 Regards,
 JsxTrader
  
 
 
 From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ps..com] On Behalf Of SyIFA Fund
 Sent: 02 Desember 2008 10:49
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
  
 
 
 
 
 Incredible struggling from what so called BULL WARRIOR Pak 
JT...hebuat. ...against the BEAR .what an amazing 
marketBULL v.s BEAR (which one you will pick to be the winner for 
today)
 
 
 Regards,
 
 
 SF FM
 Where you can trust your fund
 
 
 --- On Tue, 12/2/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com wrote:
 From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
 Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 3:41 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 Wah banyak yg bisa dibekel tuhE, dipilih-dipilihE., udh seringkan 
kejadian seperti hari ini kan? Dua hari lalu saat banyak yg 
terbengong-bengong liat IHSG naik kenceng, pasti banyak yg 
mengharapkan koreksi seperti hari iniE hehe.., saya masih nawar PTBA 
sama TLKM nihE lom dikasih-kasihE, PGAS kelihatannya cukup kuat, so 
far BDnya sangat 'bertanggung jawab'Eehe 
  
 Dalam masa sideways ini, gereral rulenya; Buy at support.., Sell at 

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-01 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Yang penting TAKE and GIVE lah

Saling sharing info and cuan, that will be oke and nice...

Pak SF FM pasti tidak keberatan...


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dick Q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ya sudah...kalo jadi rahasia dapur, simpan aja semua saran anda 
dalam dapur anda 
 bikin mumet aja...pake bahasa bule lagi. 
 atau anda lagi cari client ? 
 cheers,
 




[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-01 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Ibu Fifi,

Ada ralat nih, semua orang memberikan kontribusi bagi milis OB,

Ada yg jadi jendral, ada yg jadi tentara, ada yg jadi advisor,
ada yg jadi penyandang dana atau info, ada yg jadi provokator,
ada tukang pentung, pokonya semua mereka itulah penduduk OB..

Tanpa mereka semua milis OB engga akan bisa jalan.


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, fifi young [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Pak Rei,
 Let me give you some clues:

 Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
 Com Metal: ANTM, TINS, INCO
 Agriculture: AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
 Energy  : PGAS
 Banking: BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
 Infra Structure   : TLKM, ISAT
 Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
 Optional: ASII, UNTR, HEXA

 Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
 Tinggal pilih aja...
 Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
 BUY disaat market berdarah-darah,
 lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak

 simple 'kan?!
 he... he...

 Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur.,
 milis OB... B U B A R  dech...
 On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  *Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially
energy and
  agriculture products), property and had been working in some
banking and
  also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives with
business
  diversities.* *I bought their stocks at really low price in past.
And
  always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they reach
my target
  price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my
portfolio. It's
  my RAHASIA DAPUR. No one knows except my trader. I've 3 trader
at 3
  different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3
accounts what
  should i do to be a good investor, because i used different
method on my 3
  accounts. *
  **
  *Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. **What i'm
trying
  to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative manner, i always
buy them if
  i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is PRICELESS for me..
  So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do
FILTERING, and if
  possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and do
some
  valuation.*
  *For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not good
in TA so
  I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much for
MBah, Pak JT,
  EL, and others).*
  *Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member.
Thank you
  very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
  *For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio (RAHASIA
  DAPURHEHE..BUKAN RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR YA?).*
  **
  *Luv u all,*
  **
  *PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.*
  **
  **
  **
  *Regards,*
  **
  *SF FM*
  *Where you can trust your fund*
  --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
 
  From: Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:24 AM
 
 
I agree, and thanks for the warning Sir...
  Care to share which stocks you invest in? Thanks!
 
 
 
 
  On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM, SyIFA Fund [EMAIL PROTECTED]
com[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
 
  *Yup it's true that market always get panic, but do not
forget that
  some big BD (some of them are friends of mineI'm not
joking.I'm
  telling you remind me of my lecturer fabulous statement)
still try to
  sell their stock at higher, i'm not a bargain hunter, i'm not a
trader, i'm
  just an investor who hold his stock and always try to find the
undervalued
  one for the sake of my clients, i don't send FEAR but i send
WARNING if
  something is going to be happened in near terms. Just look at
some of my
  post. Actually i love stocks that i'm involved in. Long term
view will be
  great (buy and just hold) but short term view (like trading or
bargain
  hunter) would be in extreme position (either earned so much or
lost their
  money so much).
  If you are a trader, just PLAY carefully. If you are the owner,
then BUY
  carefully.
 
 
  Regards,
 
  SF FM
  Where you can trust your fund
  *
 
  --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
com[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  * wrote:
 
  From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:00 AM
 
 I really don't know Sir.., saya friend of both.., kalau lagi
cash ikut
  Pak Oen, kalau lagi Full ikut Bull….haha, they both give so many
opportunity
  for trader…., tapi saya akan lawan orang-orang yg Cuma bisa
menebarkan FEAR
  doang, karena sangat merugikan orang lain…, sebab basically,
tampa mesti
  ditakut-takuti, mereka sdh terlalu ketakutan dan gampang panic.
 
  Well, seperti kata Mbah, market lama-lama juga imun sama DOW..,
jangan
  lupa, bargain hunter siap serbu wall street as usual…, don't you

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-01 Terurut Topik cipto_jh
Setuju sekale mbah - the OB's Juragan - ... :)

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ibu Fifi,
 
 Ada ralat nih, semua orang memberikan kontribusi bagi milis OB,
 
 Ada yg jadi jendral, ada yg jadi tentara, ada yg jadi advisor,
 ada yg jadi penyandang dana atau info, ada yg jadi provokator,
 ada tukang pentung, pokonya semua mereka itulah penduduk OB..
 
 Tanpa mereka semua milis OB engga akan bisa jalan.
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, fifi young fifiyoung03@
 wrote:
 
  Pak Rei,
  Let me give you some clues:
 
  Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
  Com Metal: ANTM, TINS, INCO
  Agriculture: AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
  Energy  : PGAS
  Banking: BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
  Infra Structure   : TLKM, ISAT
  Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
  Optional: ASII, UNTR, HEXA
 
  Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
  Tinggal pilih aja...
  Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
  BUY disaat market berdarah-darah,
  lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak
 
  simple 'kan?!
  he... he...
 
  Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur.,
  milis OB... B U B A R  dech...
  On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund syifa.fund@ wrote:
 
  
   *Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially
 energy and
   agriculture products), property and had been working in some
 banking and
   also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives with
 business
   diversities.* *I bought their stocks at really low price in past.
 And
   always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they reach
 my target
   price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my
 portfolio. It's
   my RAHASIA DAPUR. No one knows except my trader. I've 3 trader
 at 3
   different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3
 accounts what
   should i do to be a good investor, because i used different
 method on my 3
   accounts. *
   **
   *Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. **What i'm
 trying
   to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative manner, i always
 buy them if
   i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is PRICELESS for me..
   So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do
 FILTERING, and if
   possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and do
 some
   valuation.*
   *For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not good
 in TA so
   I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much for
 MBah, Pak JT,
   EL, and others).*
   *Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member.
 Thank you
   very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
   *For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio (RAHASIA
   DAPURHEHE..BUKAN RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR YA?).*
   **
   *Luv u all,*
   **
   *PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.*
   **
   **
   **
   *Regards,*
   **
   *SF FM*
   *Where you can trust your fund*
   --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Rei highwaystar91@* wrote:
  
   From: Rei highwaystar91@
   Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
   Cc: syifa.fund@
   Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:24 AM
  
  
 I agree, and thanks for the warning Sir...
   Care to share which stocks you invest in? Thanks!
  
  
  
  
   On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM, SyIFA Fund [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 comsyifa.fund@
wrote:
  
   *Yup it's true that market always get panic, but do not
 forget that
   some big BD (some of them are friends of mineI'm not
 joking.I'm
   telling you remind me of my lecturer fabulous statement)
 still try to
   sell their stock at higher, i'm not a bargain hunter, i'm not a
 trader, i'm
   just an investor who hold his stock and always try to find the
 undervalued
   one for the sake of my clients, i don't send FEAR but i send
 WARNING if
   something is going to be happened in near terms. Just look at
 some of my
   post. Actually i love stocks that i'm involved in. Long term
 view will be
   great (buy and just hold) but short term view (like trading or
 bargain
   hunter) would be in extreme position (either earned so much or
 lost their
   money so much).
   If you are a trader, just PLAY carefully. If you are the owner,
 then BUY
   carefully.
  
  
   Regards,
  
   SF FM
   Where you can trust your fund
   *
  
   --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 comjsxtrader@
   * wrote:
  
   From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com jsxtrader@
   Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
   To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:00 AM
  
  I really don't know Sir.., saya friend of both.., kalau lagi
 cash ikut
   Pak Oen, kalau lagi Full ikut Bull….haha, they both give so many
 opportunity
   for trader…., tapi saya akan lawan orang-orang yg Cuma bisa
 menebarkan FEAR
   doang, karena sangat merugikan orang 

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-01 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Halim Mintareja 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 sekedar saya tambahkan aja..
 
 kalau banking di indo..cari yang yang LK-nya sudah in deep shit
 
 kalau LK masih show baik-baik aja model BBRI BMRI etc forget it 
lah..
 .risk vs reward gak sebanding
 

Pak Halim,

Gimana kalo pilih bank yg Laporan Keuangannya bagus tapi
PER dan COP nya in deep shit seperti BDMN, ini kan bank
dibackup ama Temasek ?.
- Risk: Say 50%
- Reward: Say 200% in 1 or 2 years


Kalo cara pak Halim gimana, masih belum jelas nih ?.




 
 
 On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Wah bu Fifi sdh bisa jadi senior OB nih hehehe
 
  On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM, fifi young [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
Pak Rei,
  Let me give you some clues:
 
  Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
  Com Metal: ANTM, TINS, INCO
  Agriculture: AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
  Energy  : PGAS
  Banking: BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
  Infra Structure   : TLKM, ISAT
  Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
  Optional: ASII, UNTR, HEXA
 
  Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
  Tinggal pilih aja...
  Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
  BUY disaat market berdarah-darah,
  lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak
 
  simple 'kan?!
  he... he...
 
  Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur.,
  milis OB... B U B A R  dech...
   On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
 
 
  *Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially 
energy and
  agriculture products), property and had been working in some 
banking and
  also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives with 
business
  diversities.* *I bought their stocks at really low price in 
past. And
  always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they reach 
my target
  price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my 
portfolio. It's
  my RAHASIA DAPUR. No one knows except my trader. I've 3 
trader at 3
  different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3 
accounts what
  should i do to be a good investor, because i used different 
method on my 3
  accounts. *
  **
  *Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. **What 
i'm trying
  to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative manner, i always 
buy them if
  i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is PRICELESS for me..
  So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do 
FILTERING, and if
  possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and do 
some
  valuation.*
  *For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not 
good in TA
  so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much for 
MBah, Pak
  JT, EL, and others).*
  *Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member. 
Thank you
  very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
  *For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio (RAHASIA
  DAPURHEHE..BUKAN RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR YA?).*
  **
  *Luv u all,*
  **
  *PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.*
  **
  **
  **
  *Regards,*
  **
  *SF FM*
   *Where you can trust your fund*
  --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
 
  From: Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:24 AM
 
 
I agree, and thanks for the warning Sir...
  Care to share which stocks you invest in? Thanks!
 
 
 
 
   On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM, SyIFA Fund [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
com[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
 
  *Yup it's true that market always get panic, but do not 
forget that
  some big BD (some of them are friends of mineI'm not 
joking.I'm
  telling you remind me of my lecturer fabulous statement) 
still try to
  sell their stock at higher, i'm not a bargain hunter, i'm not 
a trader, i'm
  just an investor who hold his stock and always try to find the 
undervalued
  one for the sake of my clients, i don't send FEAR but i send 
WARNING if
  something is going to be happened in near terms. Just look at 
some of my
  post. Actually i love stocks that i'm involved in. Long term 
view will be
  great (buy and just hold) but short term view (like trading or 
bargain
  hunter) would be in extreme position (either earned so much or 
lost their
  money so much).
  If you are a trader, just PLAY carefully. If you are the 
owner, then BUY
  carefully.
 
 
  Regards,
 
  SF FM
  Where you can trust your fund
  *
 
  --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
com[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  * wrote:
 
  From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:00 AM
 
 I really don't know Sir.., saya friend of both.., kalau 
lagi cash
  ikut Pak Oen, kalau lagi Full ikut 

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-01 Terurut Topik jsxtrader
lah kita minta diskon dong..., jangan main tubruk aja, indf masuk 
area tembak tuh.. Berani??

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Boss JT, bukannya BBCA sudah kemahalan ?
 Kalau dikasih 2400an sy ikut nongkrong jg deh :)
 
 Regards
 
 
 2008/12/2, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
Kalo bbca gimana boss?? Ane naksir nih..
 
  Sent from my BlackBerry(R)
  powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
 
  --
  *From*: Halim Mintareja
  *Date*: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:10:57 +0700
  *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
 
  sekedar saya tambahkan aja..
 
  kalau banking di indo..cari yang yang LK-nya sudah in deep shit
 
  kalau LK masih show baik-baik aja model BBRI BMRI etc forget it 
lah..
  .risk vs reward gak sebanding
 
 
 
  On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Wah bu Fifi sdh bisa jadi senior OB nih hehehe
 
  On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM, fifi young 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
 
Pak Rei,
  Let me give you some clues:
 
  Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
  Com Metal: ANTM, TINS, INCO
  Agriculture: AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
  Energy  : PGAS
  Banking: BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
  Infra Structure   : TLKM, ISAT
  Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
  Optional: ASII, UNTR, HEXA
 
  Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
  Tinggal pilih aja...
  Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
  BUY disaat market berdarah-darah,
  lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak
 
  simple 'kan?!
  he... he...
 
  Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur.,
  milis OB... B U B A R  dech...
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
 
 
 
  *Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially 
energy and
  agriculture products), property and had been working in some 
banking and
  also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives with 
business
  diversities.* *I bought their stocks at really low price in 
past. And
  always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they 
reach my target
  price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my 
portfolio.
  It's my RAHASIA DAPUR. No one knows except my trader. I've 3 
trader at 3
  different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3 
accounts
  what should i do to be a good investor, because i used 
different method on
  my 3 accounts. *
  **
  *Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. **What 
i'm
  trying to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative manner, 
i always buy
  them if i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is PRICELESS 
for me..
  So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do 
FILTERING, and if
  possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and 
do some
  valuation.*
  *For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not 
good in TA
  so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much 
for MBah, Pak
  JT, EL, and others).*
  *Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member. 
Thank you
  very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
  *For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio (RAHASIA
  DAPURHEHE..BUKAN RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR YA?).*
  **
  *Luv u all,*
  **
  *PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.*
  **
  **
  **
  *Regards,*
  **
  *SF FM*
   *Where you can trust your fund*
 
  --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
 
 
  From: Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:24 AM
 
 
I agree, and thanks for the warning Sir...
  Care to share which stocks you invest in? Thanks!
 
 
 
 
   On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM, SyIFA Fund 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] com[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
 
 
  *Yup it's true that market always get panic, but do not 
forget
  that some big BD (some of them are friends of mineI'm not 
joking.I'm
  telling you remind me of my lecturer fabulous statement) 
still try to
  sell their stock at higher, i'm not a bargain hunter, i'm not 
a trader, i'm
  just an investor who hold his stock and always try to find 
the undervalued
  one for the sake of my clients, i don't send FEAR but i send 
WARNING if
  something is going to be happened in near terms. Just look at 
some of my
  post. Actually i love stocks that i'm involved in. Long term 
view will be
  great (buy and just hold) but short term view (like trading 
or bargain
  hunter) would be in extreme position (either earned so much 
or lost their
  money so much).
  If you are a trader, just PLAY carefully. If you are the 
owner, then
  BUY carefully.
 
 
 
  Regards,
 
  SF FM
  Where you can trust your fund
 
  *
 
  --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
com[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  * wrote:
 
 
  From: JsxTrader [EMAIL 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-01 Terurut Topik tora
nah  itu maksud saya pak. ditembakin ato balik kanan?
kok kaya kesetanan gitu tadi ngebuangnya :D
BK dan KZ ejakulasi premature terus tuh

  - Original Message - 
  From: jsxtrader 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:46 PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini


  lah kita minta diskon dong..., jangan main tubruk aja, indf masuk 
  area tembak tuh.. Berani??

  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  
   Boss JT, bukannya BBCA sudah kemahalan ?
   Kalau dikasih 2400an sy ikut nongkrong jg deh :)
   
   Regards
   
   
   2008/12/2, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
Kalo bbca gimana boss?? Ane naksir nih..
   
Sent from my BlackBerry(R)
powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
   
--
*From*: Halim Mintareja
*Date*: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:10:57 +0700
*To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
*Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
   
sekedar saya tambahkan aja..
   
kalau banking di indo..cari yang yang LK-nya sudah in deep shit
   
kalau LK masih show baik-baik aja model BBRI BMRI etc forget it 
  lah..
.risk vs reward gak sebanding
   
   
   
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Wah bu Fifi sdh bisa jadi senior OB nih hehehe
   
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM, fifi young 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
   
Pak Rei,
Let me give you some clues:
   
Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
Com Metal : ANTM, TINS, INCO
Agriculture : AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
Energy : PGAS
Banking : BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
Infra Structure : TLKM, ISAT
Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
Optional : ASII, UNTR, HEXA
   
Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
Tinggal pilih aja...
Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
BUY disaat market berdarah-darah,
lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak
   
simple 'kan?!
he... he...
   
Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur.,
milis OB... B U B A R dech...
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
   
   
   
*Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially 
  energy and
agriculture products), property and had been working in some 
  banking and
also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives with 
  business
diversities.* *I bought their stocks at really low price in 
  past. And
always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they 
  reach my target
price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my 
  portfolio.
It's my RAHASIA DAPUR. No one knows except my trader. I've 3 
  trader at 3
different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3 
  accounts
what should i do to be a good investor, because i used 
  different method on
my 3 accounts. *
**
*Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. **What 
  i'm
trying to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative manner, 
  i always buy
them if i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is PRICELESS 
  for me..
So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do 
  FILTERING, and if
possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and 
  do some
valuation.*
*For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not 
  good in TA
so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much 
  for MBah, Pak
JT, EL, and others).*
*Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member. 
  Thank you
very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
*For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio (RAHASIA
DAPURHEHE..BUKAN RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR YA?).*
**
*Luv u all,*
**
*PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.*
**
**
**
*Regards,*
**
*SF FM*
*Where you can trust your fund*
   
--- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
   
   
From: Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
   
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:24 AM
   
   
I agree, and thanks for the warning Sir...
Care to share which stocks you invest in? Thanks!
   
   
   
   
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM, SyIFA Fund 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] com[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   
   
*Yup it's true that market always get panic, but do not 
  forget
that some big BD (some of them are friends of mineI'm not 
  joking.I'm
telling you remind me of my lecturer fabulous statement) 
  still try to
sell their stock at higher, i'm not a bargain hunter, i'm not 
  a trader, i'm
just an investor who hold his stock and always try to find 
  the undervalued
one for the sake of my clients, i don't send FEAR but i send 
  WARNING if
something is going to be happened in near terms. Just look at 
  some of my
post

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-01 Terurut Topik JsxTrader
ada yg nangkepin ngga?? kalau ada berarti masih ada yg pasang badan...






From: tora [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 1:49:44 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini


nah  itu maksud saya pak. ditembakin ato balik kanan?
kok kaya kesetanan gitu tadi ngebuangnya :D
BK dan KZ ejakulasi premature terus tuh
 
- Original Message - 
From: jsxtrader 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:46 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

lah kita minta diskon dong..., jangan main tubruk aja, indf masuk 
area tembak tuh.. Berani??

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, ruzli indeksbei3000@ ... 
wrote:

 Boss JT, bukannya BBCA sudah kemahalan ?
 Kalau dikasih 2400an sy ikut nongkrong jg deh :)
 
 Regards
 
 
 2008/12/2, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..:
 
  Kalo bbca gimana boss?? Ane naksir nih..
 
  Sent from my BlackBerry(R)
  powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
 
   - -
  *From*: Halim Mintareja
  *Date*: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:10:57 +0700
  *To*: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
 
  sekedar saya tambahkan aja..
 
  kalau banking di indo..cari yang yang LK-nya sudah in deep shit
 
  kalau LK masih show baik-baik aja model BBRI BMRI etc forget it 
lah..
  .risk vs reward gak sebanding
 
 
 
  On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Rei highwaystar91@ ... wrote:
 
  Wah bu Fifi sdh bisa jadi senior OB nih hehehe
 
  On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM, fifi young 
fifiyoung03@ ...wrote:
 
  Pak Rei,
  Let me give you some clues:
 
  Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
  Com Metal : ANTM, TINS, INCO
  Agriculture : AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
  Energy : PGAS
  Banking : BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
  Infra Structure : TLKM, ISAT
  Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
  Optional : ASII, UNTR, HEXA
 
  Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
  Tinggal pilih aja...
  Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
  BUY disaat market berdarah-darah,
  lebih dalem.., belinya tambah banyak.. ..
 
  simple 'kan?!
  he he...
 
  Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur... ..,
  milis OB... B U B A R dech...
  On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund 
syifa.fund@ ...wrote:
 
 
 
  *Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially 
energy and
  agriculture products), property and had been working in some 
banking and
  also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives with 
business
  diversities. * *I bought their stocks at really low price in 
past. And
  always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they 
reach my target
  price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my 
portfolio.
  It's my RAHASIA DAPUR. No one knows except my trader. I've 3 
trader at 3
  different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3 
accounts
  what should i do to be a good investor, because i used 
different method on
  my 3 accounts. *
  **
  *Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. **What 
i'm
  trying to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative manner, 
i always buy
  them if i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is PRICELESS 
for me..
  So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do 
FILTERING, and if
  possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and 
do some
  valuation.*
  *For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not 
good in TA
  so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much 
for MBah, Pak
  JT, EL, and others)..*
  *Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member. 
Thank you
  very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
  *For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio (RAHASIA
  DAPUR.HEHE. .BUKAN RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR YA?).*
  **
  *Luv u all,*
  **
  *PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.*
  **
  **
  **
  *Regards,*
  **
  *SF FM*
  *Where you can trust your fund*
 
  --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Rei highwaystar91@ ...* wrote:
 
 
  From: Rei highwaystar91@ ...
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..
  Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:24 AM
 
 
  I agree, and thanks for the warning Sir...
  Care to share which stocks you invest in? Thanks!
 
 
 
 
  On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM, SyIFA Fund 
syifa.fund@ yahoo. comsyifa.fund@ ...
   wrote:
 
 
  *Yup it's true that market always get panic, but do not 
forget
  that some big BD (some of them are friends of mineI'm not 
joking.I' m
  telling you remind me of my lecturer fabulous statement) 
still try to
  sell their stock at higher, i'm not a bargain hunter, i'm not 
a trader, i'm
  just an investor who hold his stock and always try to find 
the undervalued
  one for the sake of my clients, i don't send FEAR but i send 
WARNING if
  something is going to be happened in near terms. Just look at 
some of my
  post. Actually i love stocks that i'm involved

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-01 Terurut Topik ruzli
Ada Yg Nangkepin. Bid 14.000 LOT  24.000 LOT



2008/12/2, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

ada yg nangkepin ngga?? kalau ada berarti masih ada yg pasang badan...



  --
 *From:* tora [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 2, 2008 1:49:44 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

 nah  itu maksud saya pak. ditembakin ato balik kanan?
 kok kaya kesetanan gitu tadi ngebuangnya :D
 BK dan KZ ejakulasi premature terus tuh


 - Original Message -
 *From:* jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:46 PM
 *Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini



 lah kita minta diskon dong..., jangan main tubruk aja, indf masuk
 area tembak tuh.. Berani??

 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
 ruzli indeksbei3000@ ...
 wrote:
 
  Boss JT, bukannya BBCA sudah kemahalan ?
  Kalau dikasih 2400an sy ikut nongkrong jg deh :)
 
  Regards
 
 
  2008/12/2, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..:
  
   Kalo bbca gimana boss?? Ane naksir nih..
  
   Sent from my BlackBerry(R)
   powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
  
    - -
   *From*: Halim Mintareja
   *Date*: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:10:57 +0700
   *To*: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
 
   *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
  
   sekedar saya tambahkan aja..
  
   kalau banking di indo..cari yang yang LK-nya sudah in deep shit
  
   kalau LK masih show baik-baik aja model BBRI BMRI etc forget it
 lah..
   .risk vs reward gak sebanding
  
  
  
   On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Rei highwaystar91@ ... wrote:
  
   Wah bu Fifi sdh bisa jadi senior OB nih hehehe
  
   On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM, fifi young
 fifiyoung03@ ...wrote:
  
   Pak Rei,
   Let me give you some clues:
  
   Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
   Com Metal : ANTM, TINS, INCO
   Agriculture : AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
   Energy : PGAS
   Banking : BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
   Infra Structure : TLKM, ISAT
   Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
   Optional : ASII, UNTR, HEXA
  
   Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
   Tinggal pilih aja...
   Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
   BUY disaat market berdarah-darah,
   lebih dalem.., belinya tambah banyak.. ..
  
   simple 'kan?!
   he... he...
  
   Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur... ..,
   milis OB... B U B A R dech...
   On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund
 syifa.fund@ ...wrote:
  
  
  
   *Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially
 energy and
   agriculture products), property and had been working in some
 banking and
   also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives with
 business
   diversities. * *I bought their stocks at really low price in
 past. And
   always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they
 reach my target
   price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my
 portfolio.
   It's my RAHASIA DAPUR. No one knows except my trader. I've 3
 trader at 3
   different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3
 accounts
   what should i do to be a good investor, because i used
 different method on
   my 3 accounts. *
   **
   *Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. **What
 i'm
   trying to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative manner,
 i always buy
   them if i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is PRICELESS
 for me..
   So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do
 FILTERING, and if
   possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and
 do some
   valuation.*
   *For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not
 good in TA
   so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much
 for MBah, Pak
   JT, EL, and others).*
   *Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member.
 Thank you
   very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
   *For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio (RAHASIA
   DAPURHEHE. .BUKAN RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR YA?).*
   **
   *Luv u all,*
   **
   *PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.*
   **
   **
   **
   *Regards,*
   **
   *SF FM*
   *Where you can trust your fund*
  
   --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Rei highwaystar91@ ...* wrote:
  
  
   From: Rei highwaystar91@ ...
   Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
   To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
  
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..
   Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:24 AM
  
  
   I agree, and thanks for the warning Sir...
   Care to share which stocks you invest in? Thanks!
  
  
  
  
   On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM, SyIFA Fund
 syifa.fund@ yahoo. comsyifa.fund@ ...
wrote:
  
  
   *Yup it's true that market always get panic, but do not
 forget
   that some big BD (some of them are friends of mineI'm not
 joking.I' m
   telling you remind me of my lecturer fabulous statement)
 still try to
   sell

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-01 Terurut Topik nyaham . dong
Pak JT,
Volume di indf gimana? Apa masih normal atau meningkat ya? 
Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®

-Original Message-
From: jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:46:24 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini


lah kita minta diskon dong..., jangan main tubruk aja, indf masuk 
area tembak tuh.. Berani??

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Boss JT, bukannya BBCA sudah kemahalan ?
 Kalau dikasih 2400an sy ikut nongkrong jg deh :)
 
 Regards
 
 
 2008/12/2, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
Kalo bbca gimana boss?? Ane naksir nih..
 
  Sent from my BlackBerry(R)
  powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
 
  --
  *From*: Halim Mintareja
  *Date*: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:10:57 +0700
  *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
 
  sekedar saya tambahkan aja..
 
  kalau banking di indo..cari yang yang LK-nya sudah in deep shit
 
  kalau LK masih show baik-baik aja model BBRI BMRI etc forget it 
lah..
  .risk vs reward gak sebanding
 
 
 
  On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Wah bu Fifi sdh bisa jadi senior OB nih hehehe
 
  On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM, fifi young 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
 
Pak Rei,
  Let me give you some clues:
 
  Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
  Com Metal: ANTM, TINS, INCO
  Agriculture: AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
  Energy  : PGAS
  Banking: BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
  Infra Structure   : TLKM, ISAT
  Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
  Optional: ASII, UNTR, HEXA
 
  Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
  Tinggal pilih aja...
  Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
  BUY disaat market berdarah-darah,
  lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak
 
  simple 'kan?!
  he... he...
 
  Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur.,
  milis OB... B U B A R  dech...
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
 
 
 
  *Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially 
energy and
  agriculture products), property and had been working in some 
banking and
  also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives with 
business
  diversities.* *I bought their stocks at really low price in 
past. And
  always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they 
reach my target
  price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my 
portfolio.
  It's my RAHASIA DAPUR. No one knows except my trader. I've 3 
trader at 3
  different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3 
accounts
  what should i do to be a good investor, because i used 
different method on
  my 3 accounts. *
  **
  *Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. **What 
i'm
  trying to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative manner, 
i always buy
  them if i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is PRICELESS 
for me..
  So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do 
FILTERING, and if
  possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and 
do some
  valuation.*
  *For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not 
good in TA
  so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much 
for MBah, Pak
  JT, EL, and others).*
  *Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member. 
Thank you
  very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
  *For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio (RAHASIA
  DAPURHEHE..BUKAN RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR YA?).*
  **
  *Luv u all,*
  **
  *PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.*
  **
  **
  **
  *Regards,*
  **
  *SF FM*
   *Where you can trust your fund*
 
  --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
 
 
  From: Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:24 AM
 
 
I agree, and thanks for the warning Sir...
  Care to share which stocks you invest in? Thanks!
 
 
 
 
   On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM, SyIFA Fund 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] com[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
 
 
  *Yup it's true that market always get panic, but do not 
forget
  that some big BD (some of them are friends of mineI'm not 
joking.I'm
  telling you remind me of my lecturer fabulous statement) 
still try to
  sell their stock at higher, i'm not a bargain hunter, i'm not 
a trader, i'm
  just an investor who hold his stock and always try to find 
the undervalued
  one for the sake of my clients, i don't send FEAR but i send 
WARNING if
  something is going to be happened in near terms. Just look at 
some of my
  post. Actually i love stocks that i'm involved in. Long term 
view will be
  great (buy and just hold) but short term view (like trading 
or bargain
  hunter) would be in extreme position (either earned so much 
or lost their
  money so much

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini...Gedubraaak

2008-12-01 Terurut Topik FromBuitenzorg
Ah cape de, ada lagi di bawah ini si gdbrook punya 100 billion, IHSG 
nya bisa brak gedubaraakk hehehe.

gdbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am from Zimbabwe with 100 billion dollars wealth. I can hold share
 with that amount almost forever.
 It makes me suit to be your client.
 gdbrook
 




Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-01 Terurut Topik gdbrook
yesterday
date,ticker,open,high,low,close,volume
12/01/08,INDF,1010.00,1030.00,940.00,950.00,79014000

now = half yesterday,
No  Code Value(mn)   Vol(Lot) Freq Last+/- BVol(Lot) Bid
 Offer  OffVol(Lot)
6   INDF44.412,03   98.555  2.190   880 -70 4.774   880 
890 4.769



On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:10 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Pak JT,
 Volume di indf gimana? Apa masih normal atau meningkat ya?

 Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry(R)

 
 From: jsxtrader
 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:46:24 -
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

 lah kita minta diskon dong..., jangan main tubruk aja, indf masuk
 area tembak tuh.. Berani??

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 Boss JT, bukannya BBCA sudah kemahalan ?
 Kalau dikasih 2400an sy ikut nongkrong jg deh :)

 Regards


 2008/12/2, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Kalo bbca gimana boss?? Ane naksir nih..
 
  Sent from my BlackBerry(R)
  powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
 
  --
  *From*: Halim Mintareja
  *Date*: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:10:57 +0700
  *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
 
  sekedar saya tambahkan aja..
 
  kalau banking di indo..cari yang yang LK-nya sudah in deep shit
 
  kalau LK masih show baik-baik aja model BBRI BMRI etc forget it
 lah..
  .risk vs reward gak sebanding
 
 
 
  On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Wah bu Fifi sdh bisa jadi senior OB nih hehehe
 
  On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM, fifi young
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
 
  Pak Rei,
  Let me give you some clues:
 
  Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
  Com Metal : ANTM, TINS, INCO
  Agriculture : AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
  Energy : PGAS
  Banking : BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
  Infra Structure : TLKM, ISAT
  Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
  Optional : ASII, UNTR, HEXA
 
  Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
  Tinggal pilih aja...
  Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
  BUY disaat market berdarah-darah,
  lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak
 
  simple 'kan?!
  he... he...
 
  Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur.,
  milis OB... B U B A R dech...
  On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
 
 
 
  *Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially
 energy and
  agriculture products), property and had been working in some
 banking and
  also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives with
 business
  diversities.* *I bought their stocks at really low price in
 past. And
  always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they
 reach my target
  price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my
 portfolio.
  It's my RAHASIA DAPUR. No one knows except my trader. I've 3
 trader at 3
  different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3
 accounts
  what should i do to be a good investor, because i used
 different method on
  my 3 accounts. *
  **
  *Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. **What
 i'm
  trying to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative manner,
 i always buy
  them if i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is PRICELESS
 for me..
  So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do
 FILTERING, and if
  possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and
 do some
  valuation.*
  *For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not
 good in TA
  so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much
 for MBah, Pak
  JT, EL, and others).*
  *Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member.
 Thank you
  very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
  *For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio (RAHASIA
  DAPURHEHE..BUKAN RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR YA?).*
  **
  *Luv u all,*
  **
  *PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.*
  **
  **
  **
  *Regards,*
  **
  *SF FM*
  *Where you can trust your fund*
 
  --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
 
 
  From: Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:24 AM
 
 
  I agree, and thanks for the warning Sir...
  Care to share which stocks you invest in? Thanks!
 
 
 
 
  On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM, SyIFA Fund
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
 
 
  *Yup it's true that market always get panic, but do not
 forget
  that some big BD (some of them are friends of mineI'm not
 joking.I'm
  telling you remind me of my lecturer fabulous statement)
 still try to
  sell their stock at higher, i'm not a bargain hunter, i'm not
 a trader, i'm
  just an investor who hold his stock and always try to find
 the undervalued
  one for the sake of my clients, i don't send FEAR but i send
 WARNING if
  something is going to be happened in near terms. Just look at
 some of my

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-01 Terurut Topik JsxTrader
yoi.., kemarin banyak kejadian diatas, sore-sorenya turun dgn vol kecil karena 
ada gempa bumi.., ave buy kemarin kalau ngga salah 990, artinya banyak yang 
makan atas, mungkin sekarang lagi disuruh CL..., saya sih lagi belaga bego aja 
di pojokan...hehehe
 JsxTrader 





From: gdbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 2:39:12 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

yesterday
date,ticker,open,high,low,close,volume
12/01/08,INDF,1010.00,1030.00,940.00,950.00,79014000

now = half yesterday,
No     Code Value(mn)         Vol(Lot) Freq Last        +/- BVol(Lot) Bid
Offer     OffVol(Lot)
6    INDF    44.412,03    98.555    2.190    880    -70    4.774    880    
890    4.769



On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:10 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Pak JT,
 Volume di indf gimana? Apa masih normal atau meningkat ya?

 Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry(R)

 
 From: jsxtrader
 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:46:24 -
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

 lah kita minta diskon dong, jangan main tubruk aja, indf masuk
 area tembak tuh.. Berani??

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 Boss JT, bukannya BBCA sudah kemahalan ?
 Kalau dikasih 2400an sy ikut nongkrong jg deh :)

 Regards


 2008/12/2, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Kalo bbca gimana boss?? Ane naksir nih..
 
  Sent from my BlackBerry(R)
  powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
 
  --
  *From*: Halim Mintareja
  *Date*: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:10:57 +0700
  *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
 
  sekedar saya tambahkan aja..
 
  kalau banking di indo..cari yang yang LK-nya sudah in deep shit
 
  kalau LK masih show baik-baik aja model BBRI BMRI etc forget it
 lah...
  .risk vs reward gak sebanding
 
 
 
  On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Wah bu Fifi sdh bisa jadi senior OB nih hehehe
 
  On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM, fifi young
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
 
  Pak Rei,
  Let me give you some clues:
 
  Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
  Com Metal : ANTM, TINS, INCO
  Agriculture : AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
  Energy : PGAS
  Banking : BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
  Infra Structure : TLKM, ISAT
  Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
  Optional : ASII, UNTR, HEXA
 
  Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
  Tinggal pilih aja
  Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
  BUY disaat market berdarah-darah,
  lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak
 
  simple 'kan?!
  he... he...
 
  Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur.,
  milis OB B U B A R dech...
  On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
 
 
 
  *Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially
 energy and
  agriculture products), property and had been working in some
 banking and
  also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives with
 business
  diversities.* *I bought their stocks at really low price in
 past. And
  always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they
 reach my target
  price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my
 portfolio.
  It's my RAHASIA DAPUR. No one knows except my trader. I've 3
 trader at 3
  different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3
 accounts
  what should i do to be a good investor, because i used
 different method on
  my 3 accounts. *
  **
  *Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. **What
 i'm
  trying to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative manner,
 i always buy
  them if i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is PRICELESS
 for me..
  So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do
 FILTERING, and if
  possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and
 do some
  valuation.*
  *For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not
 good in TA
  so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much
 for MBah, Pak
  JT, EL, and others).*
  *Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member.
 Thank you
  very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
  *For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio (RAHASIA
  DAPURHEHE..BUKAN RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR YA?).*
  **
  *Luv u all,*
  **
  *PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.*
  **
  **
  **
  *Regards,*
  **
  *SF FM*
  *Where you can trust your fund*
 
  --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
 
 
  From: Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:24 AM
 
 
  I agree, and thanks for the warning Sir...
  Care to share which stocks you invest in? Thanks!
 
 
 
 
  On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM, SyIFA Fund
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
 
 
  *Yup it's true that market always get panic, but do not
 forget

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

2008-12-01 Terurut Topik JsxTrader
so far masih dibawah kemarin, ada big order sebelum sesi 1 tutup, dan 7 menit 
setelah sesi 2 dibuka, selanjutnya masih normal, sepertinya 860-870 dijaga 
ketat..., kelihatannya BD suruh kita menyerah di 880.., hehe. 
 JsxTrader 





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 2:10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

Pak JT,
Volume di indf gimana? Apa masih normal atau meningkat ya? 
Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®

From: jsxtrader 
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:46:24 -
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

lah kita minta diskon dong..., jangan main tubruk aja, indf masuk 
area tembak tuh.. Berani??

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, ruzli indeksbei3000@ ... 
wrote:

 Boss JT, bukannya BBCA sudah kemahalan ?
 Kalau dikasih 2400an sy ikut nongkrong jg deh :)
 
 Regards
 
 
 2008/12/2, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..:
 
  Kalo bbca gimana boss?? Ane naksir nih..
 
  Sent from my BlackBerry(R)
  powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
 
   - -
  *From*: Halim Mintareja
  *Date*: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:10:57 +0700
  *To*: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
 
  sekedar saya tambahkan aja..
 
  kalau banking di indo..cari yang yang LK-nya sudah in deep shit
 
  kalau LK masih show baik-baik aja model BBRI BMRI etc forget it 
lah..
  .risk vs reward gak sebanding
 
 
 
  On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Rei highwaystar91@ ... wrote:
 
  Wah bu Fifi sdh bisa jadi senior OB nih hehehe
 
  On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM, fifi young 
fifiyoung03@ ...wrote:
 
  Pak Rei,
  Let me give you some clues:
 
  Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
  Com Metal : ANTM, TINS, INCO
  Agriculture : AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
  Energy : PGAS
  Banking : BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
  Infra Structure : TLKM, ISAT
  Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
  Optional : ASII, UNTR, HEXA
 
  Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
  Tinggal pilih aja...
  Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
  BUY disaat market berdarah-darah,
  lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak.. ..
 
  simple 'kan?!
  he... he...
 
  Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur... ..,
  milis OB... B U B A R dech...
  On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund 
syifa.fund@ ...wrote:
 
 
 
  *Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially 
energy and
  agriculture products), property and had been working in some 
banking and
  also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives with 
business
  diversities. * *I bought their stocks at really low price in 
past. And
  always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they 
reach my target
  price, I'll release them. I'm sorry.. I can't tell you my 
portfolio.
  It's my RAHASIA DAPUR. No one knows except my trader. I've 3 
trader at 3
  different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3 
accounts
  what should i do to be a good investor, because i used 
different method on
  my 3 accounts. *
  **
  *Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. **What 
i'm
  trying to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative manner, 
i always buy
  them if i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is PRICELESS 
for me..
  So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do 
FILTERING, and if
  possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and 
do some
  valuation.*
  *For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not 
good in TA
  so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much 
for MBah, Pak
  JT, EL, and others).*
  *Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member. 
Thank you
  very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
  *For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio (RAHASIA
  DAPURHEHE. .BUKAN RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR YA?).*
  **
  *Luv u all,*
  **
  *PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.*
  **
  **
  **
  *Regards,*
  **
  *SF FM*
  *Where you can trust your fund*
 
  --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Rei highwaystar91@ ...* wrote:
 
 
  From: Rei highwaystar91@ ...
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..
  Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:24 AM
 
 
  I agree, and thanks for the warning Sir...
  Care to share which stocks you invest in? Thanks!
 
 
 
 
  On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM, SyIFA Fund 
syifa.fund@ yahoo. comsyifa.fund@ ...
   wrote:
 
 
  *Yup it's true that market always get panic, but do not 
forget
  that some big BD (some of them are friends of mineI'm not 
joking.I' m
  telling you remind me of my lecturer fabulous statement) 
still try to
  sell their stock at higher, i'm not a bargain hunter, i'm not 
a trader, i'm
  just an investor who hold his stock and always try to find 
the undervalued
  one for the sake of my clients, i don't send FEAR but i send 
WARNING