Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009

[Vincent Chase]

cool 400% in 11mths isnt that bad 

Elaine Sui  wrote: 12months, 
that'd be around early 2010. But remember I posted that on November 08. Some 
stocks already get 100% gain. Let's just hope the election will run smoothly 
this year.

This is not my expertise, but how's the real political condition there?
 
Elaine


2009/1/5 Vincent Chase 
   bear and bull fighting

newbie yg baca pada bingung mo ikut yg mana 

el i didnt have a chance to read all of your posts, but if my memory serves me 
correctly, you said the gain some of the stocks would be 500%?
 
anytime frame on that gain? 1,2,3,5,10 years? 


Elaine Sui  wrote:   ha ha ha 
okay dear, whaaateverr..  I guess I can't push everyone here. But contrary to 
your advice, I'm  watching the fundamental very carefully, it's VERY USEFUL in 
this kinda situation. I don't gamble, but most ppl do. Seriously, does 
technical tell you that this' only a bear rally? I don't think so.
 
 Tell us, what is the definition of bear rally in your term?

Elaine


 2009/1/4 Halim Mintareja 
 None

it is all just a game.. the world have much .. much ... much ... much more 
money than the can consume...
 
so it is time for gamble.

How you can sure that copper spot price can be an indicator if just small 
amount of world money can push it up double in just less than 3 months.
   
so just have fun and make money..
 
enjoy this bear rally until it  last..

forget about fundamental... it's just TA game...
those who think about FA should reconsider their position.. cos it's just 
useless under this kind circumstance
   

 2009/1/3 Elaine Sui 

  Answer this, noob.  Which one is commonly used to measure future 
economic growth:
a. Copper spot price
 b. Crude Oil
   c. Consumer price index
d. GDP
e. none above

I bet you can't answer that.

Elaine

2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 

 I'd like to appreciate your views dan comments honey, but I'm still
 newbie on my nov first posting :)
  
 Btw, Have a Nice weekend.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Elaine Sui  wrote:
 >
 
> *You're not new around here, are you? well whoever you were,
 welcome back
  > but you don't have to play noob lol fgod sake.. [?]
 >
 > Elaine**
 > *
 
> 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
 
>
 > > Ic honey, I actually use both, TA & FA, plus learning more macro-
  > > econ, global commodties  market trend ...
 > >
 > >
 > > Regards
 > >
 > >
 > > "Elaine Sui"  wrote:
  > > >
 > > > *You know, most ppl is actually losing money by using technical
 > > because they
 > > > don't really know how to use it. Technical is like a hand gun,
 it
  > > can save
 > > > your life, or make yourself killed.
 > > >
 > > > It's the man behind the gun.. (lol now where did I ever hear
 that
 > > before..)
 > > >
  > > > Elaine**
 > > > *
 > > > 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
 > > >
 > > > > Benar Pak gak usah takut dikatakan bodo, pede aja walau kalah
  sama
 > > > > senior2, namanya belajar, kalo meleset wajar
 > > > >
 > > > > Mungkin saya termasuk 'Newbie' ya karena pertama kali posting
 baru
 > > > > mulai tgl 24 nop 2008, salah biasa :)
  > > > >
 > > > > Peace
 >  > > >
 > > > > Regards
 > > > >
 > > > >
 > > > >
 > > > > ruzli  wrote:
 > > > > >
 > > > > > Namanya belajar sih ga ada bodo nya Pak Y, sy jg mau post
  chart
 > > > > sektor
 > > > > > banking tp takut kelihatan bodonya sm senior2 disini :> .
 Kalau
 > > di
 > > > > > chart sy, BBRI dan BMRI ada Divergence Negatif antara Price
  &
 > > > > Volume,
 > > > > > kalau BBNI dan BDMN Divergence Positif. Kemungkinan akan
 koreksi
 > > > > tgl 7
 > > > > > Jan 09, sesi 2, setelah pengumuman BI Rate. Untuk tgl 5 Jan
  sy
 > > jg
 > > > > > optimis ijo Pak Y.
 > > > > >
 > > > > > On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
 > >  > > > > Chart DJIA udah diposting sama Pak Tirta. Santa Claus
 wave-nya
 > > > > IHSG
 > > > > > > juga udah diposting sama Embah. Saya nggak usah posting
 lagi
 > > lah,
  > > > > > > nanti malah keliatan bodonya.
 > > > > > >
 > > > > > > Yang jelas saya masih yakin sama chart yang dulu saya
 post. 5
 > > > > Januari
  > > > > > > akan jadi hari pembuktian.
 > > > > > >
 > > > > > >
 > > > > > >
 > > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli
  
 > > > > > > wrote:
 > > > > > >>
 > > > > > >> Semua orang bisa bikin prediksi.
 > > > >  > >> Tidak begitu penting hasilnya benar atau salah.
 > > > > > >> Yg penting ada reason/alasan nya.
 > > > > > >> Kalau pakai TA, mohon disertakan chartnya, baik itu
  > > candlestick,
 > > > > > >> stochastic,dll.
 > > > > > >> Kalau pakai FA, mohon data-datanya, baik itu analisa
 laporan
 > > > > > > keuangan,
  > > > > > >> maupun yg lainnya.
 > > > > > >> Data + analisa = konklusi
 > > > > > >> Kalau cuma pakai feelingmology, berarti sm seperti mama
 > > loren,
  > > > > cuma
 > > > > > > ho ki te it
 > > > > > >> Di tahun 09, milis OB harus lebih OK.
 > > > > > >> Mbah, New Year Resolution milis OB apa nih. Mungkin ada
  > > saran,
 > > > > > >  masukan
 > > > >

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009

[feto oan]

el... go to sleep... :)
--- On Mon, 1/5/09, Elaine Sui  wrote:
From: Elaine Sui Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comDate: Monday, January 5, 2009, 1:20 AM


12months, that'd be around early 2010. But remember I posted that on November 08. Some stocks already get 100% gain. Let's just hope the election will run smoothly this year.This is not my expertise, but how's the real political condition there?Elaine
2009/1/5 Vincent Chase 

bear and bull fightingnewbie yg baca pada bingung mo ikut yg mana el i didnt have a chance to read all of your posts, but if my memory serves me correctly, you said the gain some of the stocks would be 500%?anytime frame on that gain? 1,2,3,5,10 years? 


Elaine Sui  wrote:


ha ha ha okay dear, whaaateverr..  I guess I can't push everyone here. But contrary to your advice, I'm watching the fundamental very carefully, it's VERY USEFUL in this kinda situation. I don't gamble, but most ppl do. Seriously, does technical tell you that this' only a bear rally? I don't think so.Tell us, what is the definition of bear rally in your term?Elaine
2009/1/4 Halim Mintareja 

Noneit is all just a game.. the world have much .. much ... much ... much more money than the can consume...so it is time for gamble.How you can sure that copper spot price can be an indicator if just small amount of world money can push it up double in just less than 3 months.so just have fun and make money..enjoy this bear rally until it last..forget about fundamental... it's just TA game...those who think about FA should reconsider their position.. cos it's just useless under this kind circumstance
2009/1/3 Elaine Sui 




Answer this, noob.  Which one is commonly used to measure future economic growth:a. Copper spot priceb. Crude Oilc. Consumer price indexd. GDPe. none aboveI bet you can't answer that.Elaine
2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 



I'd like to appreciate your views dan comments honey, but I'm stillnewbie on my nov first posting :)Btw, Have a Nice weekend.
RegardsElaine Sui  wrote:>> *You're not new around here, are you? well whoever you were,
welcome back> but you don't have to play noob lol fgod sake.. [?]>> Elaine**> *> 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 


>> > Ic honey, I actually use both, TA & FA, plus learning more macro-> > econ, global commodties  market trend ...> >> >> > Regards> >> >> > "Elaine Sui"  wrote:> > >> > > *You know, most ppl is actually losing money by using technical> > because they> > > don't really know how to use it. Technical is like a hand gun,it> > can save> > > your life, or make yourself killed.> > >> > > It's the man behind the gun.. (lol now where did I ever hearthat> > before..)> > >> > > Elaine**> > > *> > > 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg > > >> > > > Benar Pak gak usah takut dikatakan bodo, pede aja walau kalahsama> > > >
 senior2, namanya belajar, kalo meleset wajar> > > >> > > > Mungkin saya termasuk 'Newbie' ya karena pertama kali postingbaru> > > > mulai tgl 24 nop 2008, salah biasa :)> > > >> > > > Peace> > > >> > > > Regards> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ruzli  wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Namanya belajar sih ga ada bodo nya Pak Y, sy jg mau postchart> > > > sektor> > > > > banking tp takut kelihatan bodonya sm senior2 disini :> .Kalau> > di> > > > > chart sy, BBRI dan BMRI ada Divergence Negatif antara Price&> > > > Volume,> > > > > kalau BBNI dan BDMN Divergence Positif. Kemungkinan akankoreksi> > >
 > tgl 7> > > > > Jan 09, sesi 2, setelah pengumuman BI Rate. Untuk tgl 5 Jansy> > jg> > > > > optimis ijo Pak Y.> > > > >> > > > > On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:> > > > > > Chart DJIA udah diposting sama Pak Tirta. Santa Clauswave-nya> > > > IHSG> > > > > > juga udah diposting sama Embah. Saya nggak usah postinglagi> > lah,> > > > > > nanti malah keliatan bodonya.> > > > > >> > > > > > Yang jelas saya masih yakin sama chart yang dulu sayapost. 5> > > > Januari> > > > > > akan jadi hari pembuktian.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > >>> > > > > >> Semua orang bisa bikin prediksi.> > > > > >> Tidak begitu penting hasilnya benar atau salah.> > > > > >> Yg penting ada reason/alasan nya.> > > > > >> Kalau pakai TA, mohon disertakan chartnya, baik itu> > candlestick,> > > > > >> stochastic,dll.> > > > > >> Kalau pakai FA, mohon data-datanya, baik itu analisalaporan> > > > > > keuangan,> > > > > >> maupun yg lainnya.> > > > > >> Data + analisa = konklusi> > > > > >> Kalau cuma pakai feelingmology, berarti sm seperti
 mama> > loren,> > > > cuma> > > > > > ho ki te it> > > > > >> Di tahun 09, milis OB harus lebih OK.> > > > > >> Mbah, New Year Resolution milis OB apa nih. Mungkin ada> > saran,> > > > > > masukan> > > > > >> buat ke depan?> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >> Regards> > > > > >>> > > > > >> On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:> > > > > >

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009

[Elaine Sui]

*12months, that'd be around early 2010. But remember I posted that on
November 08. Some stocks already get 100% gain. Let's just hope the election
will run smoothly this year.

This is not my expertise, but how's the real political condition there?

Elaine**
*
2009/1/5 Vincent Chase 

>  bear and bull fighting
>
> newbie yg baca pada bingung mo ikut yg mana
>
> el i didnt have a chance to read all of your posts, but if my memory serves
> me correctly, you said the gain some of the stocks would be 500%?
>
> anytime frame on that gain? 1,2,3,5,10 years?
>
> *Elaine Sui * wrote:
>
>  *ha ha ha okay dear, whaaateverr.. [?] I guess I can't push everyone here.
> But contrary to your advice, I'm watching the fundamental very carefully,
> it's VERY USEFUL in this kinda situation. I don't gamble, but most ppl do.
> Seriously, does technical tell you that this' only a bear rally? I don't
> think so.
>
> Tell us, what is the definition of bear rally in your term?
>
> Elaine**
> *
> 2009/1/4 Halim Mintareja 
>
>>  None
>>
>> it is all just a game.. the world have much .. much ... much ... much
>> more money than the can consume...
>>
>> so it is time for gamble.
>>
>> How you can sure that copper spot price can be an indicator if just small
>> amount of world money can push it up double in just less than 3 months.
>>
>> so just have fun and make money..
>>
>> enjoy this bear rally until it last..
>>
>> forget about fundamental... it's just TA game...
>> those who think about FA should reconsider their position.. cos it's just
>> useless under this kind circumstance
>>
>>
>> 2009/1/3 Elaine Sui 
>>
>>  *Answer this, noob. [?] Which one is commonly used to measure **future
>>> economic growth:
>>> a. Copper spot price
>>> b. Crude Oil
>>> c. Consumer price index
>>> d. GDP
>>> e. none above
>>>
>>> I bet you can't answer that.
>>>
>>> Elaine
>>> **
>>> *2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
>>>
>>> I'd like to appreciate your views dan comments honey, but I'm still
 newbie on my nov first posting :)

 Btw, Have a Nice weekend.

 Regards


 Elaine Sui  wrote:
 >
 > *You're not new around here, are you? well whoever you were,
 welcome back
 > but you don't have to play noob lol fgod sake.. [?]
 >
 > Elaine**
 > *
 > 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
 >
 > > Ic honey, I actually use both, TA & FA, plus learning more macro-
 > > econ, global commodties  market trend ...
 > >
 > >
 > > Regards
 > >
 > >
 > > "Elaine Sui"  wrote:
 > > >
 > > > *You know, most ppl is actually losing money by using technical
 > > because they
 > > > don't really know how to use it. Technical is like a hand gun,
 it
 > > can save
 > > > your life, or make yourself killed.
 > > >
 > > > It's the man behind the gun.. (lol now where did I ever hear
 that
 > > before..)
 > > >
 > > > Elaine**
 > > > *
 > > > 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
 > > >
 > > > > Benar Pak gak usah takut dikatakan bodo, pede aja walau kalah
 sama
 > > > > senior2, namanya belajar, kalo meleset wajar
 > > > >
 > > > > Mungkin saya termasuk 'Newbie' ya karena pertama kali posting
 baru
 > > > > mulai tgl 24 nop 2008, salah biasa :)
 > > > >
 > > > > Peace
 > > > >
 > > > > Regards
 > > > >
 > > > >
 > > > >
 > > > > ruzli  wrote:
 > > > > >
 > > > > > Namanya belajar sih ga ada bodo nya Pak Y, sy jg mau post
 chart
 > > > > sektor
 > > > > > banking tp takut kelihatan bodonya sm senior2 disini :> .
 Kalau
 > > di
 > > > > > chart sy, BBRI dan BMRI ada Divergence Negatif antara Price
 &
 > > > > Volume,
 > > > > > kalau BBNI dan BDMN Divergence Positif. Kemungkinan akan
 koreksi
 > > > > tgl 7
 > > > > > Jan 09, sesi 2, setelah pengumuman BI Rate. Untuk tgl 5 Jan
 sy
 > > jg
 > > > > > optimis ijo Pak Y.
 > > > > >
 > > > > > On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
 > > > > > > Chart DJIA udah diposting sama Pak Tirta. Santa Claus
 wave-nya
 > > > > IHSG
 > > > > > > juga udah diposting sama Embah. Saya nggak usah posting
 lagi
 > > lah,
 > > > > > > nanti malah keliatan bodonya.
 > > > > > >
 > > > > > > Yang jelas saya masih yakin sama chart yang dulu saya
 post. 5
 > > > > Januari
 > > > > > > akan jadi hari pembuktian.
 > > > > > >
 > > > > > >
 > > > > > >
 > > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli
 
 > > > > > > wrote:
 > > > > > >>
 > > > > > >> Semua orang bisa bikin prediksi.
 > > > > > >> Tidak begitu penting hasilnya benar atau salah.
 > > > > > >> Yg penting ada reason/alasan nya.
 > > > > > >> Kalau pakai TA, mohon disertakan chartnya, baik itu
 > > candlestick,
 > > > > > >> stochastic,dll.
 > > > > > >> Kalau pakai FA, mohon data-datanya, baik itu analisa
 laporan
 > > > > 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009

[Vincent Chase]

bear and bull fighting

newbie yg baca pada bingung mo ikut yg mana 

el i didnt have a chance to read all of your posts, but if my memory serves me 
correctly, you said the gain some of the stocks would be 500%?

anytime frame on that gain? 1,2,3,5,10 years? 

Elaine Sui  wrote: ha ha ha 
okay dear, whaaateverr..  I guess I can't push everyone here. But contrary to 
your advice, I'm watching the fundamental very carefully, it's VERY USEFUL in 
this kinda situation. I don't gamble, but most ppl do. Seriously, does 
technical tell you that this' only a bear rally? I don't think so.
 
Tell us, what is the definition of bear rally in your term?

Elaine


 2009/1/4 Halim Mintareja 
None

it is all just a game.. the world have much .. much ... much ... much more 
money than the can consume...

so it is time for gamble.

How you can sure that copper spot price can be an indicator if just small 
amount of world money can push it up double in just less than 3 months.
   
so just have fun and make money..

enjoy this bear rally until it last..

forget about fundamental... it's just TA game...
those who think about FA should reconsider their position.. cos it's just 
useless under this kind circumstance
   

2009/1/3 Elaine Sui 

 Answer this, noob.  Which one is commonly used to measure future 
economic growth:
a. Copper spot price
 b. Crude Oil
  c. Consumer price index
d. GDP
e. none above

I bet you can't answer that.

Elaine

2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg

 I'd like to appreciate your views dan comments honey, but I'm still
 newbie on my nov first posting :)
 
 Btw, Have a Nice weekend.
 
 Regards
 
 
 Elaine Sui  wrote:
 >
 
> *You're not new around here, are you? well whoever you were,
 welcome back
 > but you don't have to play noob lol fgod sake.. [?]
 >
 > Elaine**
 > *
 
> 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
 
>
 > > Ic honey, I actually use both, TA & FA, plus learning more macro-
 > > econ, global commodties  market trend ...
 > >
 > >
 > > Regards
 > >
 > >
 > > "Elaine Sui"  wrote:
 > > >
 > > > *You know, most ppl is actually losing money by using technical
 > > because they
 > > > don't really know how to use it. Technical is like a hand gun,
 it
 > > can save
 > > > your life, or make yourself killed.
 > > >
 > > > It's the man behind the gun.. (lol now where did I ever hear
 that
 > > before..)
 > > >
 > > > Elaine**
 > > > *
 > > > 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
 > > >
 > > > > Benar Pak gak usah takut dikatakan bodo, pede aja walau kalah
 sama
 > > > > senior2, namanya belajar, kalo meleset wajar
 > > > >
 > > > > Mungkin saya termasuk 'Newbie' ya karena pertama kali posting
 baru
 > > > > mulai tgl 24 nop 2008, salah biasa :)
 > > > >
 > > > > Peace
 > > > >
 > > > > Regards
 > > > >
 > > > >
 > > > >
 > > > > ruzli  wrote:
 > > > > >
 > > > > > Namanya belajar sih ga ada bodo nya Pak Y, sy jg mau post
 chart
 > > > > sektor
 > > > > > banking tp takut kelihatan bodonya sm senior2 disini :> .
 Kalau
 > > di
 > > > > > chart sy, BBRI dan BMRI ada Divergence Negatif antara Price
 &
 > > > > Volume,
 > > > > > kalau BBNI dan BDMN Divergence Positif. Kemungkinan akan
 koreksi
 > > > > tgl 7
 > > > > > Jan 09, sesi 2, setelah pengumuman BI Rate. Untuk tgl 5 Jan
 sy
 > > jg
 > > > > > optimis ijo Pak Y.
 > > > > >
 > > > > > On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
 > > > > > > Chart DJIA udah diposting sama Pak Tirta. Santa Claus
 wave-nya
 > > > > IHSG
 > > > > > > juga udah diposting sama Embah. Saya nggak usah posting
 lagi
 > > lah,
 > > > > > > nanti malah keliatan bodonya.
 > > > > > >
 > > > > > > Yang jelas saya masih yakin sama chart yang dulu saya
 post. 5
 > > > > Januari
 > > > > > > akan jadi hari pembuktian.
 > > > > > >
 > > > > > >
 > > > > > >
 > > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli
 
 > > > > > > wrote:
 > > > > > >>
 > > > > > >> Semua orang bisa bikin prediksi.
 > > > > > >> Tidak begitu penting hasilnya benar atau salah.
 > > > > > >> Yg penting ada reason/alasan nya.
 > > > > > >> Kalau pakai TA, mohon disertakan chartnya, baik itu
 > > candlestick,
 > > > > > >> stochastic,dll.
 > > > > > >> Kalau pakai FA, mohon data-datanya, baik itu analisa
 laporan
 > > > > > > keuangan,
 > > > > > >> maupun yg lainnya.
 > > > > > >> Data + analisa = konklusi
 > > > > > >> Kalau cuma pakai feelingmology, berarti sm seperti mama
 > > loren,
 > > > > cuma
 > > > > > > ho ki te it
 > > > > > >> Di tahun 09, milis OB harus lebih OK.
 > > > > > >> Mbah, New Year Resolution milis OB apa nih. Mungkin ada
 > > saran,
 > > > > > > masukan
 > > > > > >> buat ke depan?
 > > > > > >>
 > > > > > >>
 > > > > > >> Regards
 > > > > > >>
 > > > > > >> On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
 > > > > > >> > Kalo versi saya IHSG 5 Januari 150% UP. DJIA & oil
 breakout
 > > > > > > trendline-
 > > > > > >> > nya, very2 awesome signal. Saatnya kita gas pol, 1430
 here
 > > we
 > > > > > > come...
 > > > > > >> >
 > > > > > >> >
 > > > > > >> >
 > > > > > >> > --- In obrolan-ba

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009

[Elaine Sui]

*ha ha ha okay dear, whaaateverr.. [?] I guess I can't push everyone here.
But contrary to your advice, I'm watching the fundamental very carefully,
it's VERY USEFUL in this kinda situation. I don't gamble, but most ppl do.
Seriously, does technical tell you that this' only a bear rally? I don't
think so.

Tell us, what is the definition of bear rally in your term?

Elaine**
*
2009/1/4 Halim Mintareja 

>  None
>
> it is all just a game.. the world have much .. much ... much ... much
> more money than the can consume...
>
> so it is time for gamble.
>
> How you can sure that copper spot price can be an indicator if just small
> amount of world money can push it up double in just less than 3 months.
>
> so just have fun and make money..
>
> enjoy this bear rally until it last..
>
> forget about fundamental... it's just TA game...
> those who think about FA should reconsider their position.. cos it's just
> useless under this kind circumstance
>
>
> 2009/1/3 Elaine Sui 
>
>  *Answer this, noob. [?] Which one is commonly used to measure **future
>> economic growth:
>> a. Copper spot price
>> b. Crude Oil
>> c. Consumer price index
>> d. GDP
>> e. none above
>>
>> I bet you can't answer that.
>>
>> Elaine
>> **
>> *2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
>>
>> I'd like to appreciate your views dan comments honey, but I'm still
>>> newbie on my nov first posting :)
>>>
>>> Btw, Have a Nice weekend.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>> Elaine Sui  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > *You're not new around here, are you? well whoever you were,
>>> welcome back
>>> > but you don't have to play noob lol fgod sake.. [?]
>>> >
>>> > Elaine**
>>> > *
>>> > 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
>>> >
>>> > > Ic honey, I actually use both, TA & FA, plus learning more macro-
>>> > > econ, global commodties  market trend ...
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Regards
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > "Elaine Sui"  wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > *You know, most ppl is actually losing money by using technical
>>> > > because they
>>> > > > don't really know how to use it. Technical is like a hand gun,
>>> it
>>> > > can save
>>> > > > your life, or make yourself killed.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > It's the man behind the gun.. (lol now where did I ever hear
>>> that
>>> > > before..)
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Elaine**
>>> > > > *
>>> > > > 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > Benar Pak gak usah takut dikatakan bodo, pede aja walau kalah
>>> sama
>>> > > > > senior2, namanya belajar, kalo meleset wajar
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Mungkin saya termasuk 'Newbie' ya karena pertama kali posting
>>> baru
>>> > > > > mulai tgl 24 nop 2008, salah biasa :)
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Peace
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Regards
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > ruzli  wrote:
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Namanya belajar sih ga ada bodo nya Pak Y, sy jg mau post
>>> chart
>>> > > > > sektor
>>> > > > > > banking tp takut kelihatan bodonya sm senior2 disini :> .
>>> Kalau
>>> > > di
>>> > > > > > chart sy, BBRI dan BMRI ada Divergence Negatif antara Price
>>> &
>>> > > > > Volume,
>>> > > > > > kalau BBNI dan BDMN Divergence Positif. Kemungkinan akan
>>> koreksi
>>> > > > > tgl 7
>>> > > > > > Jan 09, sesi 2, setelah pengumuman BI Rate. Untuk tgl 5 Jan
>>> sy
>>> > > jg
>>> > > > > > optimis ijo Pak Y.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
>>> > > > > > > Chart DJIA udah diposting sama Pak Tirta. Santa Claus
>>> wave-nya
>>> > > > > IHSG
>>> > > > > > > juga udah diposting sama Embah. Saya nggak usah posting
>>> lagi
>>> > > lah,
>>> > > > > > > nanti malah keliatan bodonya.
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > Yang jelas saya masih yakin sama chart yang dulu saya
>>> post. 5
>>> > > > > Januari
>>> > > > > > > akan jadi hari pembuktian.
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli
>>> 
>>> > > > > > > wrote:
>>> > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > >> Semua orang bisa bikin prediksi.
>>> > > > > > >> Tidak begitu penting hasilnya benar atau salah.
>>> > > > > > >> Yg penting ada reason/alasan nya.
>>> > > > > > >> Kalau pakai TA, mohon disertakan chartnya, baik itu
>>> > > candlestick,
>>> > > > > > >> stochastic,dll.
>>> > > > > > >> Kalau pakai FA, mohon data-datanya, baik itu analisa
>>> laporan
>>> > > > > > > keuangan,
>>> > > > > > >> maupun yg lainnya.
>>> > > > > > >> Data + analisa = konklusi
>>> > > > > > >> Kalau cuma pakai feelingmology, berarti sm seperti mama
>>> > > loren,
>>> > > > > cuma
>>> > > > > > > ho ki te it
>>> > > > > > >> Di tahun 09, milis OB harus lebih OK.
>>> > > > > > >> Mbah, New Year Resolution milis OB apa nih. Mungkin ada
>>> > > saran,
>>> > > > > > > masukan
>>> > > > > > >> buat ke depan?
>>> > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > >> Regards
>>> > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > >> On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
>>> > > > > > >> > Kalo versi saya IHSG 5 Januari 150% UP. DJIA & oil
>>> breakout
>>> > > > > > > trendline-
>>> > > > > > >> > nya, very2 awesome signal. Saatnya kita gas pol, 1430
>>> here
>>> > > we
>>>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009

[Rei]

Selalu ada unsur "bandar"nya ya pak Halim, yg bisa me'nodai' kemurnian suatu
indikator...jadi segala sesuatu bisa dimanipulasi.
Bener kata pak FB, capek deh...




2009/1/4 Halim Mintareja 

>   None
>
> it is all just a game.. the world have much .. much ... much ... much
> more money than the can consume...
>
> so it is time for gamble.
>
> How you can sure that copper spot price can be an indicator if just small
> amount of world money can push it up double in just less than 3 months.
>
> so just have fun and make money..
>
> enjoy this bear rally until it last..
>
> forget about fundamental... it's just TA game...
> those who think about FA should reconsider their position.. cos it's just
> useless under this kind circumstance
>
>
> 2009/1/3 Elaine Sui 
>
>> *Answer this, noob. [?] Which one is commonly used to measure **future
>> economic growth:
>> a. Copper spot price
>> b. Crude Oil
>> c. Consumer price index
>> d. GDP
>> e. none above
>>
>> I bet you can't answer that.
>>
>> Elaine
>> **
>> * 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
>>
>> I'd like to appreciate your views dan comments honey, but I'm still
>>> newbie on my nov first posting :)
>>>
>>> Btw, Have a Nice weekend.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>> Elaine Sui  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > *You're not new around here, are you? well whoever you were,
>>> welcome back
>>> > but you don't have to play noob lol fgod sake.. [?]
>>> >
>>> > Elaine**
>>> > *
>>> > 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
>>>  >
>>> > > Ic honey, I actually use both, TA & FA, plus learning more macro-
>>> > > econ, global commodties  market trend ...
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Regards
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > "Elaine Sui"  wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > *You know, most ppl is actually losing money by using technical
>>> > > because they
>>> > > > don't really know how to use it. Technical is like a hand gun,
>>> it
>>> > > can save
>>> > > > your life, or make yourself killed.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > It's the man behind the gun.. (lol now where did I ever hear
>>> that
>>> > > before..)
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Elaine**
>>> > > > *
>>> > > > 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > Benar Pak gak usah takut dikatakan bodo, pede aja walau kalah
>>> sama
>>> > > > > senior2, namanya belajar, kalo meleset wajar
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Mungkin saya termasuk 'Newbie' ya karena pertama kali posting
>>> baru
>>> > > > > mulai tgl 24 nop 2008, salah biasa :)
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Peace
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Regards
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > ruzli  wrote:
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Namanya belajar sih ga ada bodo nya Pak Y, sy jg mau post
>>> chart
>>> > > > > sektor
>>> > > > > > banking tp takut kelihatan bodonya sm senior2 disini :> .
>>> Kalau
>>> > > di
>>> > > > > > chart sy, BBRI dan BMRI ada Divergence Negatif antara Price
>>> &
>>> > > > > Volume,
>>> > > > > > kalau BBNI dan BDMN Divergence Positif. Kemungkinan akan
>>> koreksi
>>> > > > > tgl 7
>>> > > > > > Jan 09, sesi 2, setelah pengumuman BI Rate. Untuk tgl 5 Jan
>>> sy
>>> > > jg
>>> > > > > > optimis ijo Pak Y.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
>>> > > > > > > Chart DJIA udah diposting sama Pak Tirta. Santa Claus
>>> wave-nya
>>> > > > > IHSG
>>> > > > > > > juga udah diposting sama Embah. Saya nggak usah posting
>>> lagi
>>> > > lah,
>>> > > > > > > nanti malah keliatan bodonya.
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > Yang jelas saya masih yakin sama chart yang dulu saya
>>> post. 5
>>> > > > > Januari
>>> > > > > > > akan jadi hari pembuktian.
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli
>>> 
>>> > > > > > > wrote:
>>> > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > >> Semua orang bisa bikin prediksi.
>>> > > > > > >> Tidak begitu penting hasilnya benar atau salah.
>>> > > > > > >> Yg penting ada reason/alasan nya.
>>> > > > > > >> Kalau pakai TA, mohon disertakan chartnya, baik itu
>>> > > candlestick,
>>> > > > > > >> stochastic,dll.
>>> > > > > > >> Kalau pakai FA, mohon data-datanya, baik itu analisa
>>> laporan
>>> > > > > > > keuangan,
>>> > > > > > >> maupun yg lainnya.
>>> > > > > > >> Data + analisa = konklusi
>>> > > > > > >> Kalau cuma pakai feelingmology, berarti sm seperti mama
>>> > > loren,
>>> > > > > cuma
>>> > > > > > > ho ki te it
>>> > > > > > >> Di tahun 09, milis OB harus lebih OK.
>>> > > > > > >> Mbah, New Year Resolution milis OB apa nih. Mungkin ada
>>> > > saran,
>>> > > > > > > masukan
>>> > > > > > >> buat ke depan?
>>> > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > >> Regards
>>> > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > >> On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
>>> > > > > > >> > Kalo versi saya IHSG 5 Januari 150% UP. DJIA & oil
>>> breakout
>>> > > > > > > trendline-
>>> > > > > > >> > nya, very2 awesome signal. Saatnya kita gas pol, 1430
>>> here
>>> > > we
>>> > > > > > > come...
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "FromBuitenzorg"
>>> > > > > > >> >  wrote:
>>> > > > > > >> >>
>>> > > > > >

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009

[Halim Mintareja]

None

it is all just a game.. the world have much .. much ... much ... much
more money than the can consume...

so it is time for gamble.

How you can sure that copper spot price can be an indicator if just small
amount of world money can push it up double in just less than 3 months.

so just have fun and make money..

enjoy this bear rally until it last..

forget about fundamental... it's just TA game...
those who think about FA should reconsider their position.. cos it's just
useless under this kind circumstance


2009/1/3 Elaine Sui 

>  *Answer this, noob. [?] Which one is commonly used to measure **future
> economic growth:
> a. Copper spot price
> b. Crude Oil
> c. Consumer price index
> d. GDP
> e. none above
>
> I bet you can't answer that.
>
> Elaine
> **
> *2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
>
> I'd like to appreciate your views dan comments honey, but I'm still
>> newbie on my nov first posting :)
>>
>> Btw, Have a Nice weekend.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>> Elaine Sui  wrote:
>> >
>> > *You're not new around here, are you? well whoever you were,
>> welcome back
>> > but you don't have to play noob lol fgod sake.. [?]
>> >
>> > Elaine**
>> > *
>> > 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
>> >
>> > > Ic honey, I actually use both, TA & FA, plus learning more macro-
>> > > econ, global commodties  market trend ...
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Regards
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Elaine Sui"  wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > *You know, most ppl is actually losing money by using technical
>> > > because they
>> > > > don't really know how to use it. Technical is like a hand gun,
>> it
>> > > can save
>> > > > your life, or make yourself killed.
>> > > >
>> > > > It's the man behind the gun.. (lol now where did I ever hear
>> that
>> > > before..)
>> > > >
>> > > > Elaine**
>> > > > *
>> > > > 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
>> > > >
>> > > > > Benar Pak gak usah takut dikatakan bodo, pede aja walau kalah
>> sama
>> > > > > senior2, namanya belajar, kalo meleset wajar
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Mungkin saya termasuk 'Newbie' ya karena pertama kali posting
>> baru
>> > > > > mulai tgl 24 nop 2008, salah biasa :)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Peace
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Regards
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ruzli  wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Namanya belajar sih ga ada bodo nya Pak Y, sy jg mau post
>> chart
>> > > > > sektor
>> > > > > > banking tp takut kelihatan bodonya sm senior2 disini :> .
>> Kalau
>> > > di
>> > > > > > chart sy, BBRI dan BMRI ada Divergence Negatif antara Price
>> &
>> > > > > Volume,
>> > > > > > kalau BBNI dan BDMN Divergence Positif. Kemungkinan akan
>> koreksi
>> > > > > tgl 7
>> > > > > > Jan 09, sesi 2, setelah pengumuman BI Rate. Untuk tgl 5 Jan
>> sy
>> > > jg
>> > > > > > optimis ijo Pak Y.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
>> > > > > > > Chart DJIA udah diposting sama Pak Tirta. Santa Claus
>> wave-nya
>> > > > > IHSG
>> > > > > > > juga udah diposting sama Embah. Saya nggak usah posting
>> lagi
>> > > lah,
>> > > > > > > nanti malah keliatan bodonya.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Yang jelas saya masih yakin sama chart yang dulu saya
>> post. 5
>> > > > > Januari
>> > > > > > > akan jadi hari pembuktian.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli
>> 
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> Semua orang bisa bikin prediksi.
>> > > > > > >> Tidak begitu penting hasilnya benar atau salah.
>> > > > > > >> Yg penting ada reason/alasan nya.
>> > > > > > >> Kalau pakai TA, mohon disertakan chartnya, baik itu
>> > > candlestick,
>> > > > > > >> stochastic,dll.
>> > > > > > >> Kalau pakai FA, mohon data-datanya, baik itu analisa
>> laporan
>> > > > > > > keuangan,
>> > > > > > >> maupun yg lainnya.
>> > > > > > >> Data + analisa = konklusi
>> > > > > > >> Kalau cuma pakai feelingmology, berarti sm seperti mama
>> > > loren,
>> > > > > cuma
>> > > > > > > ho ki te it
>> > > > > > >> Di tahun 09, milis OB harus lebih OK.
>> > > > > > >> Mbah, New Year Resolution milis OB apa nih. Mungkin ada
>> > > saran,
>> > > > > > > masukan
>> > > > > > >> buat ke depan?
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> Regards
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
>> > > > > > >> > Kalo versi saya IHSG 5 Januari 150% UP. DJIA & oil
>> breakout
>> > > > > > > trendline-
>> > > > > > >> > nya, very2 awesome signal. Saatnya kita gas pol, 1430
>> here
>> > > we
>> > > > > > > come...
>> > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > >> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "FromBuitenzorg"
>> > > > > > >> >  wrote:
>> > > > > > >> >>
>> > > > > > >> >> Boleh gak ya test prediksi ? Untuk membuktikan
>> sulitnya
>> > > > > > > memprediksi
>> > > > > > >> >> masa depan. Bukan mo nyaingin mama loren yg
>> ngeramal,  ini
>> > > > > > > prediksi
>> > > > > > >> >> pasti banyak mleset, . Kalo salah wajar, kalo tepat
>> pasti
>> > > kita
>> > > > > > >> > cepat
>> > > > > > >> >> kaya :)
>> > > > > > >> >>
>> > > > > > >>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009

[Vic]

tgl 7 jan ada rapat dewan gubernur bi. 50 bps cut?



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, frento suharto
 wrote:
>
> Om FromB.hari senin memang om mau ada acara apa? Kok sepertinya
semangat banget bikin prediksi tgl 5 Jan 2009?
> Mau beli sampai habis, atau jual sampai habis?
> 
> --- On Sat, 1/3/09, FromBuitenzorg  wrote:
> 
> From: FromBuitenzorg 
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, January 3, 2009, 9:29 AM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I'd like to appreciate your views dan comments honey, but I'm still 
> newbie on my nov first posting :)
> 
> Btw, Have a Nice weekend.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Elaine Sui  wrote:
> >
> > *You're not new around here, are you? well whoever you were, 
> welcome back
> > but you don't have to play noob lol fgod sake.. [?]
> > 
> > Elaine**
> > *
> > 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
> > 
> > > Ic honey, I actually use both, TA & FA, plus learning more macro-
> > > econ, global commodties market trend ...
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > >
> > > "Elaine Sui"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > *You know, most ppl is actually losing money by using technical
> > > because they
> > > > don't really know how to use it. Technical is like a hand gun, 
> it
> > > can save
> > > > your life, or make yourself killed.
> > > >
> > > > It's the man behind the gun.. (lol now where did I ever hear 
> that
> > > before..)
> > > >
> > > > Elaine**
> > > > *
> > > > 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
> > > >
> > > > > Benar Pak gak usah takut dikatakan bodo, pede aja walau kalah 
> sama
> > > > > senior2, namanya belajar, kalo meleset wajar
> > > > >
> > > > > Mungkin saya termasuk 'Newbie' ya karena pertama kali posting 
> baru
> > > > > mulai tgl 24 nop 2008, salah biasa :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Peace
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ruzli  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Namanya belajar sih ga ada bodo nya Pak Y, sy jg mau post 
> chart
> > > > > sektor
> > > > > > banking tp takut kelihatan bodonya sm senior2 disini :> . 
> Kalau
> > > di
> > > > > > chart sy, BBRI dan BMRI ada Divergence Negatif antara Price 
> &
> > > > > Volume,
> > > > > > kalau BBNI dan BDMN Divergence Positif. Kemungkinan akan 
> koreksi
> > > > > tgl 7
> > > > > > Jan 09, sesi 2, setelah pengumuman BI Rate. Untuk tgl 5 Jan 
> sy
> > > jg
> > > > > > optimis ijo Pak Y.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
> > > > > > > Chart DJIA udah diposting sama Pak Tirta. Santa Claus 
> wave-nya
> > > > > IHSG
> > > > > > > juga udah diposting sama Embah. Saya nggak usah posting 
> lagi
> > > lah,
> > > > > > > nanti malah keliatan bodonya.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yang jelas saya masih yakin sama chart yang dulu saya 
> post. 5
> > > > > Januari
> > > > > > > akan jadi hari pembuktian.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, ruzli 
> 
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Semua orang bisa bikin prediksi.
> > > > > > >> Tidak begitu penting hasilnya benar atau salah.
> > > > > > >> Yg penting ada reason/alasan nya.
> > > > > > >> Kalau pakai TA, mohon disertakan chartnya, baik itu
> > > candlestick,
> > > > > > >> stochastic,dll.
> > > > > > >> Kalau pakai FA, mohon data-datanya, baik itu analisa 
> laporan
> > > > > > > keuangan,
> > > > > > >> maupun yg lainnya.
> > > > > > >> Data + analisa = konklusi
> > > > > > >> Kalau cuma pakai feelingmology, berarti sm seperti mama
> > > loren,
> > > > > cuma
> > > > > > > ho ki te it
&g

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009 to Elaine

[bayu murti]

ooow prediksi yang mendasarinya itu 10years bond crash yaahhhic icRatenya nanti kaya di indonesia dunk hehehehe --- Pada Sab, 3/1/09, Elaine Sui  menulis:Dari: Elaine Sui Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comTanggal: Sabtu, 3 Januari, 2009, 4:51 PM








 







And by the wwyy The mega safe haven so called US 10years treasury notes has CRASHED. What effect will happen to stock markets?a. The stock markets will rallyb. Rallyc. Yup, it's a rally okay?
d. omfg lol it's a rally dumb asse. none of aboveElaine2009/1/3 Elaine Sui 
Answer this, noob.  Which one is commonly used to measure future economic growth:
a. Copper spot priceb. Crude Oil
c. Consumer price indexd. GDPe. none aboveI bet you can't answer that.Elaine2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 

I'd like to appreciate your views dan comments honey, but I'm still
newbie on my nov first posting :)

Btw, Have a Nice weekend.

Regards


Elaine Sui  wrote:
>
> *You're not new around here, are you? well whoever you were,
welcome back
> but you don't have to play noob lol fgod sake.. [?]
>
> Elaine**
> *
> 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
>
> > Ic honey, I actually use both, TA & FA, plus learning more macro-
> > econ, global commodties  market trend ...
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > "Elaine Sui"  wrote:
> > >
> > > *You know, most ppl is actually losing money by using technical
> > because they
> > > don't really know how to use it. Technical is like a hand gun,
it
> > can save
> > > your life, or make yourself killed.
> > >
> > > It's the man behind the gun.. (lol now where did I ever hear
that
> > before..)
> > >
> > > Elaine**
> > > *
> > > 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
> > >
> > > > Benar Pak gak usah takut dikatakan bodo, pede aja walau kalah
sama
> > > > senior2, namanya belajar, kalo meleset wajar
> > > >
> > > > Mungkin saya termasuk 'Newbie' ya karena pertama kali posting
baru
> > > > mulai tgl 24 nop 2008, salah biasa :)
> > > >
> > > > Peace
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ruzli  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Namanya belajar sih ga ada bodo nya Pak Y, sy jg mau post
chart
> > > > sektor
> > > > > banking tp takut kelihatan bodonya sm senior2 disini :> .
Kalau
> > di
> > > > > chart sy, BBRI dan BMRI ada Divergence Negatif antara Price
&
> > > > Volume,
> > > > > kalau BBNI dan BDMN Divergence Positif. Kemungkinan akan
koreksi
> > > > tgl 7
> > > > > Jan 09, sesi 2, setelah pengumuman BI Rate. Untuk tgl 5 Jan
sy
> > jg
> > > > > optimis ijo Pak Y.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
> > > > > > Chart DJIA udah diposting sama Pak Tirta. Santa Claus
wave-nya
> > > > IHSG
> > > > > > juga udah diposting sama Embah. Saya nggak usah posting
lagi
> > lah,
> > > > > > nanti malah keliatan bodonya.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yang jelas saya masih yakin sama chart yang dulu saya
post. 5
> > > > Januari
> > > > > > akan jadi hari pembuktian.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, ruzli

> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Semua orang bisa bikin prediksi.
> > > > > >> Tidak begitu penting hasilnya benar atau salah.
> > > > > >> Yg penting ada reason/alasan nya.
> > > > > >> Kalau pakai TA, mohon disertakan chartnya, baik itu
> > candlestick,
> > > > > >> stochastic,dll.
> > > > > >> Kalau pakai FA, mohon data-datanya, baik itu analisa
laporan
> > > > > > keuangan,
> > > > > >> maupun yg lainnya.
> > > > > >> Data + analisa = konklusi
> > > > > >> Kalau cuma pakai feelingmology, berarti sm seperti mama
> > loren,
> > > > cuma
> > > > > > ho ki te it
> > > > > >> Di tahun 09, milis OB harus lebih OK.
> > > > > >> Mbah, New Year Resolution milis OB apa nih. Mungkin ada
> > saran,
> > > > > > masukan
> > > > > >> buat ke depan?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Regards
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
> > > > > >> > Kalo versi saya IHSG 5 Januari 150% UP. DJIA & oil
breakout
> > > > > > trendline-
> > > > > >> > nya, very2 awesome signal. Saatnya kita gas pol, 1430
here
> > we
> > > > > > come...
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "FromBuitenzorg"
> > > > > >> >  wrote:
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> Boleh gak ya test prediksi ? Untuk membuktikan
sulitnya
> > > > > > memprediksi
> > > > > >> >> masa depan. Bukan mo nyaingin mama loren yg
ngeramal,  ini
> > > > > > prediksi
> > > > > >> >> pasti banyak mleset, . Kalo salah wajar, kalo tepat
pasti
> > kita
> > > > > >> > cepat
> > > > > >> >> kaya :)
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> Berikut test prediksi utk tgl 5 januari 2009, Pliz. ..
> > mohon
> > > > > > jangan
> > > > > >> >> diikuti. Gunakan keyakinan masing2 berbasis TA atau
FA.
> > Ini
> > > > hanya
> > > > > >> >> test yg akan dibandingkan dg hasilnya pada akhir sesi
tgl
> > 5,
> > > > > > HANYA
> > > > > >> >> ingin membuktikan bhw "sangat SULIT sekali me

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009

[edwinkdr]

> Sayang sekali...
> Sejarah membuktikan bahwa manusia tidak pernah belajar dari sejarah.
> 

Sekedar me-refresh kembali catatan saya Pak :-)

(by pass jika tdk perlu)

Foundations of Technical Analysis

Technical analysis is based on three basic beliefs:

* Price discounts everything.
All fundamental, political and economic information available to
the market is reflected in the price.

* Price tends to move in trends.
Charles Dow developed the Dow Theory based on his empirical
observation of trends more than a century ago.

* History tends to repeat itself.
Basic human nature does not change and the market, reflecting
the sum of all participants actions, behaves in identifiable patterns.

Sumber :
http://www.incrediblecharts.com/technical/technical_analysis.php


Posting Pak Budi Suryono : 



http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/26000

On 5/18/07, budi suryono  wrote:

saya pikir dimana2 sama saja,nggak ada yang beda,karena psikologi
pasar itu cermin psikology manusia pelakunya, Mau di New York Stock
Exchange atau di bursa saham Vietnam sama saja. 

Dari jaman Jesse Levermore,Darvas, sampe sekarang jaman Internet sama
saja, dan tetap tidak akan berubah waktu mendatang. Hal tersebut saya
buktikan dengan buka account di internet broker yang bisa trading dari
US ,Europe,Japan, australia.

Saya running account ini dari bulan maret07, dan konsistent make money
(Up 40% per hari ini) dengan hanya baca chart,yang merupakan cermin
psikologi pelakunya.tanpa tahu news,fundamental,bahkan line bisnisnya
apa.My current big profit dikontribusi oleh FMG aussie stock ,sekarang
masih di hold dan sampe sekarang saya gak tahu sama sekali perusaan
apa, tapi dengan ngelihat chartnya saya hanya menyimpulkan "This is
another TMPI !" dan saya percaya masih banyak saudara TMPI di NYSE
atau di LSE. 


...

http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/40217

money management to pak busur

> Melawan naluri? melawan human instinct? Psychologically
uncomfotable? ya ,sama halnya utk menjadi top atlet itu
psychologically uncomforable, bangun pagi latihan,siang latihan sore
hari harus tidur cukup,gak bisa dugem semaunya,makan harus dijaga,
sehari2 terima semprotan pelatih dst..dst. To be a TOP DOG is
pychologically uncomfortable awalnya,tapi selanjutnya akan sangat
mudah.
>




Wanna be a Top Dog? Shift your paradigm! Ini sebenarnya simple ,merely
a take and give game, Hanya kita yang sudah dewasa dan sekolah
ketinggian biasa membuat hal simple jadi susah dan ruwet.

Saya sama sekali nggak keberatan exit strategy di ungkap ke publik
secara luas,karena the biggest secret in trading adalah justru nggak
ada secretnya.

Mayority player terlampau pintar untuk percaya dengan apa yang saya
katakan,mereka akan tetap akan terus melakukan hal yang sama.Behavior
Market financial dari jaman rikiplik,jaman kuda gigit besi
begitu-begitu aja.Wall Street never changes,the pockets change,the
suckers change, the stocks change, but Wall Street never
changes,because human nature never changes.



saya belajar strategy money management pemain poker kawakan.always
play the good hands and drop out of poor hands. dan bila dapet kartu
bagus tambah taruhan.hanya demikian saya survive...mengikuti kocokan
dadu berikut.





(Surfing di Internet)

http://suciptoajisaka.com/2007/10/20/prinsip-9010-ala-stephen-covey/

Meminjam analogi Prinsip 80/20, Stephen Covey, pengarang buku laris
The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People, mempopulerkan Prinsip
90/10. Prinsip ini mengatakan bahwa 10% dari hidup kita ditentukan
oleh apa yang terjadi dan 90% ditentukan oleh bagaimana kita bereaksi
terhadap kejadian-kejadian itu.


Jutaan orang menderita karena keadaan. Ada yang kehilangan pekerjaan,
ditinggal sahabat, sedih, stress, depresi, bahkan banyak yang bunuh
diri. Bagi mereka seolah-olah dunia ini bersekongkol untuk memusuhi
mereka. Hari-hari jelek diikuti oleh hari-hari jelek berikutnya.
Semuanya terasa suram, termasuk masa depan mereka. Ada yang pasrah
dengan mengatakan : "Ah memang nasibku begini". Ada juga yang
ujung-ujungnya menyalahkan Tuhan yang dituduh tidak adil.

Di lain pihak, pada situasi dan kondisi yang sama, jutaan orang yang
lain tetap bisa menikmati hidup bahkan semakin berbahagia. Mereka
terus bisa berkarya dan bisa bermanfaat bagi orang lain dan dirinya
sendiri. Mereka tidak fokus pada kejadian yang tidak bisa
dikendalikannya, tetapi mereka fokus kepada apa yang bisa
dilakukannya. Mereka menemukan solusi di setiap masalah. Mereka
melihat peluang di setiap krisis.

Apa yang membedakan `nasib' kedua kelompok ini ? Karena kelompok
pertama hanya berfokus pada yang 10%, hal-hal yang tak bisa
dikendalikannya, sedangkan kelompok yang kedua berfokus kepada yang
90%, respon mereka, apa yang bisa mereka lakukan.

Keduanya mulai dari titik 'start' yang sama, situasi dan kondisi yang
sama. Tetapi cara pandang keduanya

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009

[frento suharto]

Om FromB.hari senin memang om mau ada acara apa? Kok sepertinya semangat 
banget bikin prediksi tgl 5 Jan 2009?
Mau beli sampai habis, atau jual sampai habis?

--- On Sat, 1/3/09, FromBuitenzorg  wrote:

From: FromBuitenzorg 
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 3, 2009, 9:29 AM






I'd like to appreciate your views dan comments honey, but I'm still 
newbie on my nov first posting :)

Btw, Have a Nice weekend.

Regards

Elaine Sui  wrote:
>
> *You're not new around here, are you? well whoever you were, 
welcome back
> but you don't have to play noob lol fgod sake.. [?]
> 
> Elaine**
> *
> 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
> 
> > Ic honey, I actually use both, TA & FA, plus learning more macro-
> > econ, global commodties market trend ...
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > "Elaine Sui"  wrote:
> > >
> > > *You know, most ppl is actually losing money by using technical
> > because they
> > > don't really know how to use it. Technical is like a hand gun, 
it
> > can save
> > > your life, or make yourself killed.
> > >
> > > It's the man behind the gun.. (lol now where did I ever hear 
that
> > before..)
> > >
> > > Elaine**
> > > *
> > > 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
> > >
> > > > Benar Pak gak usah takut dikatakan bodo, pede aja walau kalah 
sama
> > > > senior2, namanya belajar, kalo meleset wajar
> > > >
> > > > Mungkin saya termasuk 'Newbie' ya karena pertama kali posting 
baru
> > > > mulai tgl 24 nop 2008, salah biasa :)
> > > >
> > > > Peace
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ruzli  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Namanya belajar sih ga ada bodo nya Pak Y, sy jg mau post 
chart
> > > > sektor
> > > > > banking tp takut kelihatan bodonya sm senior2 disini :> . 
Kalau
> > di
> > > > > chart sy, BBRI dan BMRI ada Divergence Negatif antara Price 
&
> > > > Volume,
> > > > > kalau BBNI dan BDMN Divergence Positif. Kemungkinan akan 
koreksi
> > > > tgl 7
> > > > > Jan 09, sesi 2, setelah pengumuman BI Rate. Untuk tgl 5 Jan 
sy
> > jg
> > > > > optimis ijo Pak Y.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
> > > > > > Chart DJIA udah diposting sama Pak Tirta. Santa Claus 
wave-nya
> > > > IHSG
> > > > > > juga udah diposting sama Embah. Saya nggak usah posting 
lagi
> > lah,
> > > > > > nanti malah keliatan bodonya.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yang jelas saya masih yakin sama chart yang dulu saya 
post. 5
> > > > Januari
> > > > > > akan jadi hari pembuktian.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, ruzli 

> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Semua orang bisa bikin prediksi.
> > > > > >> Tidak begitu penting hasilnya benar atau salah.
> > > > > >> Yg penting ada reason/alasan nya.
> > > > > >> Kalau pakai TA, mohon disertakan chartnya, baik itu
> > candlestick,
> > > > > >> stochastic,dll.
> > > > > >> Kalau pakai FA, mohon data-datanya, baik itu analisa 
laporan
> > > > > > keuangan,
> > > > > >> maupun yg lainnya.
> > > > > >> Data + analisa = konklusi
> > > > > >> Kalau cuma pakai feelingmology, berarti sm seperti mama
> > loren,
> > > > cuma
> > > > > > ho ki te it
> > > > > >> Di tahun 09, milis OB harus lebih OK.
> > > > > >> Mbah, New Year Resolution milis OB apa nih. Mungkin ada
> > saran,
> > > > > > masukan
> > > > > >> buat ke depan?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Regards
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
> > > > > >> > Kalo versi saya IHSG 5 Januari 150% UP. DJIA & oil 
breakout
> > > > > > trendline-
> > > > > >> > nya, very2 awesome signal. Saatnya kita gas pol, 1430 
here
> > we

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009

[Aria Santoso]

Tidak bermaksud menjawab, namun hanya ingin membagikan apa yg teringat
karena adanya pertanyaan dibawah ini...


"The stock market is like one giant mirror that reflects economic conditions
in a discounted matter, and it has also been one of the most reliable
forecasting tools, as you will see when we travel in time and cover over 100
years of stock market history and how the best traders took advantage of the
opportunities the market. There is simply no better historical guide to
current and future economic prospect than the action within the stock
market, which reflects millions of investors' perceptions for future profit
potential." - John Boik


Sayang sekali...
Sejarah membuktikan bahwa manusia tidak pernah belajar dari sejarah.


Ms. Elaine,
Thanks for below question. It reminds us to learn more...
:)


With best regards,
Ace



From: Elaine Sui [mailto:elainesu...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 11:37 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009


Answer this, noob.  Which one is commonly used to measure future economic
growth:
a. Copper spot price
b. Crude Oil
c. Consumer price index
d. GDP
e. none above

I bet you can't answer that.

Elaine

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009

[tirta858]

> f. Gold rally
> g. Gold standard back again
> h. WW3 since it will reset everything

Iseng aja biar tambah rame :P




--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui  
wrote:
>
> *And by the wwyy The mega safe haven so called US 10years 
treasury
> notes has CRASHED. What effect will happen to stock markets?
> a. The stock markets will rally
> b. Rally
> c. Yup, it's a rally okay?
> d. omfg lol it's a rally dumb ass
> e. none of above
> 
> 
> Elaine**
> *
> 2009/1/3 Elaine Sui 
> 
> > *Answer this, noob. [?] Which one is commonly used to measure 
**future
> > economic growth:
> > a. Copper spot price
> > b. Crude Oil
> > c. Consumer price index
> > d. GDP
> > e. none above
> >
> > I bet you can't answer that.
> >
> > Elaine
> > **
> > *2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
> >
> > I'd like to appreciate your views dan comments honey, but I'm 
still
> >> newbie on my nov first posting :)
> >>
> >> Btw, Have a Nice weekend.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >>
> >> Elaine Sui  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > *You're not new around here, are you? well whoever you were,
> >> welcome back
> >> > but you don't have to play noob lol fgod sake.. [?]
> >> >
> >> > Elaine**
> >> > *
> >> > 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
> >> >
> >> > > Ic honey, I actually use both, TA & FA, plus learning more 
macro-
> >> > > econ, global commodties  market trend ...
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Regards
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > "Elaine Sui"  wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > *You know, most ppl is actually losing money by using 
technical
> >> > > because they
> >> > > > don't really know how to use it. Technical is like a hand 
gun,
> >> it
> >> > > can save
> >> > > > your life, or make yourself killed.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > It's the man behind the gun.. (lol now where did I ever 
hear
> >> that
> >> > > before..)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Elaine**
> >> > > > *
> >> > > > 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Benar Pak gak usah takut dikatakan bodo, pede aja walau 
kalah
> >> sama
> >> > > > > senior2, namanya belajar, kalo meleset wajar
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Mungkin saya termasuk 'Newbie' ya karena pertama kali 
posting
> >> baru
> >> > > > > mulai tgl 24 nop 2008, salah biasa :)
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Peace
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Regards
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > ruzli  wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Namanya belajar sih ga ada bodo nya Pak Y, sy jg mau 
post
> >> chart
> >> > > > > sektor
> >> > > > > > banking tp takut kelihatan bodonya sm senior2 
disini :> .
> >> Kalau
> >> > > di
> >> > > > > > chart sy, BBRI dan BMRI ada Divergence Negatif antara 
Price
> >> &
> >> > > > > Volume,
> >> > > > > > kalau BBNI dan BDMN Divergence Positif. Kemungkinan 
akan
> >> koreksi
> >> > > > > tgl 7
> >> > > > > > Jan 09, sesi 2, setelah pengumuman BI Rate. Untuk tgl 
5 Jan
> >> sy
> >> > > jg
> >> > > > > > optimis ijo Pak Y.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
> >> > > > > > > Chart DJIA udah diposting sama Pak Tirta. Santa Claus
> >> wave-nya
> >> > > > > IHSG
> >> > > > > > > juga udah diposting sama Embah. Saya nggak usah 
posting
> >> lagi
> >> > > lah,
> >> > > > > > > nanti malah keliatan bodonya.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Yang jelas saya masih yakin sama chart yang dulu saya
> >> post. 5
> >> > > > > Januari
> >> > > > > > > akan jadi hari pembuktian.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli
> >> 
> >> > > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> Semua orang bisa bikin prediksi.
> >> > > > > > >> Tidak begitu penting hasilnya benar atau salah.
> >> > > > > > >> Yg penting ada reason/alasan nya.
> >> > > > > > >> Kalau pakai TA, mohon disertakan chartnya, baik itu
> >> > > candlestick,
> >> > > > > > >> stochastic,dll.
> >> > > > > > >> Kalau pakai FA, mohon data-datanya, baik itu analisa
> >> laporan
> >> > > > > > > keuangan,
> >> > > > > > >> maupun yg lainnya.
> >> > > > > > >> Data + analisa = konklusi
> >> > > > > > >> Kalau cuma pakai feelingmology, berarti sm seperti 
mama
> >> > > loren,
> >> > > > > cuma
> >> > > > > > > ho ki te it
> >> > > > > > >> Di tahun 09, milis OB harus lebih OK.
> >> > > > > > >> Mbah, New Year Resolution milis OB apa nih. Mungkin 
ada
> >> > > saran,
> >> > > > > > > masukan
> >> > > > > > >> buat ke depan?
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> Regards
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
> >> > > > > > >> > Kalo versi saya IHSG 5 Januari 150% UP. DJIA & oil
> >> breakout
> >> > > > > > > trendline-
> >> > > > > > >> > nya, very2 awesome signal. Saatnya kita gas pol, 
1430
> >> here
> >> > > we
> >> > > > > > > come...
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> > --- In obrolan-
ban...@yahoogroups.com, "FromBuitenzorg"
> >> > > > > > >> >  wrote:
> >> > > > > > >> >>
> >> > > > > > >> >> Boleh gak ya test prediksi ? Untuk membuktikan
> >> sulitnya
> >> > > > > > > memprediksi
> >> > > > > > >> 

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009

[tirta858]

> f. yield curve

Biar tambah seru :)




--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui  
wrote:
>
> *Answer this, noob. [?] Which one is commonly used to measure 
**future
> economic growth:
> a. Copper spot price
> b. Crude Oil
> c. Consumer price index
> d. GDP
> e. none above
> 
> I bet you can't answer that.
> 
> Elaine
> **
> *2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
> 
> > I'd like to appreciate your views dan comments honey, but I'm 
still
> > newbie on my nov first posting :)
> >
> > Btw, Have a Nice weekend.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > Elaine Sui  wrote:
> > >
> > > *You're not new around here, are you? well whoever you were,
> > welcome back
> > > but you don't have to play noob lol fgod sake.. [?]
> > >
> > > Elaine**
> > > *
> > > 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
> > >
> > > > Ic honey, I actually use both, TA & FA, plus learning more 
macro-
> > > > econ, global commodties  market trend ...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Elaine Sui"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > *You know, most ppl is actually losing money by using 
technical
> > > > because they
> > > > > don't really know how to use it. Technical is like a hand 
gun,
> > it
> > > > can save
> > > > > your life, or make yourself killed.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's the man behind the gun.. (lol now where did I ever hear
> > that
> > > > before..)
> > > > >
> > > > > Elaine**
> > > > > *
> > > > > 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
> > > > >
> > > > > > Benar Pak gak usah takut dikatakan bodo, pede aja walau 
kalah
> > sama
> > > > > > senior2, namanya belajar, kalo meleset wajar
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mungkin saya termasuk 'Newbie' ya karena pertama kali 
posting
> > baru
> > > > > > mulai tgl 24 nop 2008, salah biasa :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Peace
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ruzli  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Namanya belajar sih ga ada bodo nya Pak Y, sy jg mau 
post
> > chart
> > > > > > sektor
> > > > > > > banking tp takut kelihatan bodonya sm senior2 
disini :> .
> > Kalau
> > > > di
> > > > > > > chart sy, BBRI dan BMRI ada Divergence Negatif antara 
Price
> > &
> > > > > > Volume,
> > > > > > > kalau BBNI dan BDMN Divergence Positif. Kemungkinan akan
> > koreksi
> > > > > > tgl 7
> > > > > > > Jan 09, sesi 2, setelah pengumuman BI Rate. Untuk tgl 5 
Jan
> > sy
> > > > jg
> > > > > > > optimis ijo Pak Y.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
> > > > > > > > Chart DJIA udah diposting sama Pak Tirta. Santa Claus
> > wave-nya
> > > > > > IHSG
> > > > > > > > juga udah diposting sama Embah. Saya nggak usah 
posting
> > lagi
> > > > lah,
> > > > > > > > nanti malah keliatan bodonya.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yang jelas saya masih yakin sama chart yang dulu saya
> > post. 5
> > > > > > Januari
> > > > > > > > akan jadi hari pembuktian.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli
> > 
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Semua orang bisa bikin prediksi.
> > > > > > > >> Tidak begitu penting hasilnya benar atau salah.
> > > > > > > >> Yg penting ada reason/alasan nya.
> > > > > > > >> Kalau pakai TA, mohon disertakan chartnya, baik itu
> > > > candlestick,
> > > > > > > >> stochastic,dll.
> > > > > > > >> Kalau pakai FA, mohon data-datanya, baik itu analisa
> > laporan
> > > > > > > > keuangan,
> > > > > > > >> maupun yg lainnya.
> > > > > > > >> Data + analisa = konklusi
> > > > > > > >> Kalau cuma pakai feelingmology, berarti sm seperti 
mama
> > > > loren,
> > > > > > cuma
> > > > > > > > ho ki te it
> > > > > > > >> Di tahun 09, milis OB harus lebih OK.
> > > > > > > >> Mbah, New Year Resolution milis OB apa nih. Mungkin 
ada
> > > > saran,
> > > > > > > > masukan
> > > > > > > >> buat ke depan?
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Regards
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > Kalo versi saya IHSG 5 Januari 150% UP. DJIA & oil
> > breakout
> > > > > > > > trendline-
> > > > > > > >> > nya, very2 awesome signal. Saatnya kita gas pol, 
1430
> > here
> > > > we
> > > > > > > > come...
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > --- In obrolan-
ban...@yahoogroups.com, "FromBuitenzorg"
> > > > > > > >> >  wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > >> >> Boleh gak ya test prediksi ? Untuk membuktikan
> > sulitnya
> > > > > > > > memprediksi
> > > > > > > >> >> masa depan. Bukan mo nyaingin mama loren yg
> > ngeramal,  ini
> > > > > > > > prediksi
> > > > > > > >> >> pasti banyak mleset, . Kalo salah wajar, kalo 
tepat
> > pasti
> > > > kita
> > > > > > > >> > cepat
> > > > > > > >> >> kaya :)
> > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > >> >> Berikut test prediksi utk tgl 5 januari 2009, 
Pliz. ..
> > > > mohon
> > > > > > > > jangan
> > > > > > > >> >> diikuti. Gunakan keyakinan masing2 berbasis TA 
atau
> > FA.
> > > > Ini
> > > > > > hanya
> > > > > > > >> >> test yg akan dibandingkan dg hasilnya pada akhir 
sesi

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009

[Elaine Sui]

*And by the wwyy The mega safe haven so called US 10years treasury
notes has CRASHED. What effect will happen to stock markets?
a. The stock markets will rally
b. Rally
c. Yup, it's a rally okay?
d. omfg lol it's a rally dumb ass
e. none of above


Elaine**
*
2009/1/3 Elaine Sui 

> *Answer this, noob. [?] Which one is commonly used to measure **future
> economic growth:
> a. Copper spot price
> b. Crude Oil
> c. Consumer price index
> d. GDP
> e. none above
>
> I bet you can't answer that.
>
> Elaine
> **
> *2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
>
> I'd like to appreciate your views dan comments honey, but I'm still
>> newbie on my nov first posting :)
>>
>> Btw, Have a Nice weekend.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>> Elaine Sui  wrote:
>> >
>> > *You're not new around here, are you? well whoever you were,
>> welcome back
>> > but you don't have to play noob lol fgod sake.. [?]
>> >
>> > Elaine**
>> > *
>> > 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
>> >
>> > > Ic honey, I actually use both, TA & FA, plus learning more macro-
>> > > econ, global commodties  market trend ...
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Regards
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Elaine Sui"  wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > *You know, most ppl is actually losing money by using technical
>> > > because they
>> > > > don't really know how to use it. Technical is like a hand gun,
>> it
>> > > can save
>> > > > your life, or make yourself killed.
>> > > >
>> > > > It's the man behind the gun.. (lol now where did I ever hear
>> that
>> > > before..)
>> > > >
>> > > > Elaine**
>> > > > *
>> > > > 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
>> > > >
>> > > > > Benar Pak gak usah takut dikatakan bodo, pede aja walau kalah
>> sama
>> > > > > senior2, namanya belajar, kalo meleset wajar
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Mungkin saya termasuk 'Newbie' ya karena pertama kali posting
>> baru
>> > > > > mulai tgl 24 nop 2008, salah biasa :)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Peace
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Regards
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ruzli  wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Namanya belajar sih ga ada bodo nya Pak Y, sy jg mau post
>> chart
>> > > > > sektor
>> > > > > > banking tp takut kelihatan bodonya sm senior2 disini :> .
>> Kalau
>> > > di
>> > > > > > chart sy, BBRI dan BMRI ada Divergence Negatif antara Price
>> &
>> > > > > Volume,
>> > > > > > kalau BBNI dan BDMN Divergence Positif. Kemungkinan akan
>> koreksi
>> > > > > tgl 7
>> > > > > > Jan 09, sesi 2, setelah pengumuman BI Rate. Untuk tgl 5 Jan
>> sy
>> > > jg
>> > > > > > optimis ijo Pak Y.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
>> > > > > > > Chart DJIA udah diposting sama Pak Tirta. Santa Claus
>> wave-nya
>> > > > > IHSG
>> > > > > > > juga udah diposting sama Embah. Saya nggak usah posting
>> lagi
>> > > lah,
>> > > > > > > nanti malah keliatan bodonya.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Yang jelas saya masih yakin sama chart yang dulu saya
>> post. 5
>> > > > > Januari
>> > > > > > > akan jadi hari pembuktian.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli
>> 
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> Semua orang bisa bikin prediksi.
>> > > > > > >> Tidak begitu penting hasilnya benar atau salah.
>> > > > > > >> Yg penting ada reason/alasan nya.
>> > > > > > >> Kalau pakai TA, mohon disertakan chartnya, baik itu
>> > > candlestick,
>> > > > > > >> stochastic,dll.
>> > > > > > >> Kalau pakai FA, mohon data-datanya, baik itu analisa
>> laporan
>> > > > > > > keuangan,
>> > > > > > >> maupun yg lainnya.
>> > > > > > >> Data + analisa = konklusi
>> > > > > > >> Kalau cuma pakai feelingmology, berarti sm seperti mama
>> > > loren,
>> > > > > cuma
>> > > > > > > ho ki te it
>> > > > > > >> Di tahun 09, milis OB harus lebih OK.
>> > > > > > >> Mbah, New Year Resolution milis OB apa nih. Mungkin ada
>> > > saran,
>> > > > > > > masukan
>> > > > > > >> buat ke depan?
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> Regards
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
>> > > > > > >> > Kalo versi saya IHSG 5 Januari 150% UP. DJIA & oil
>> breakout
>> > > > > > > trendline-
>> > > > > > >> > nya, very2 awesome signal. Saatnya kita gas pol, 1430
>> here
>> > > we
>> > > > > > > come...
>> > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > >> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "FromBuitenzorg"
>> > > > > > >> >  wrote:
>> > > > > > >> >>
>> > > > > > >> >> Boleh gak ya test prediksi ? Untuk membuktikan
>> sulitnya
>> > > > > > > memprediksi
>> > > > > > >> >> masa depan. Bukan mo nyaingin mama loren yg
>> ngeramal,  ini
>> > > > > > > prediksi
>> > > > > > >> >> pasti banyak mleset, . Kalo salah wajar, kalo tepat
>> pasti
>> > > kita
>> > > > > > >> > cepat
>> > > > > > >> >> kaya :)
>> > > > > > >> >>
>> > > > > > >> >> Berikut test prediksi utk tgl 5 januari 2009, Pliz. ..
>> > > mohon
>> > > > > > > jangan
>> > > > > > >> >> diikuti. Gunakan keyakinan masing2 berbasis TA atau
>> FA.
>> > > Ini
>> > > > > hanya
>> > > > > > >> >> test yg akan dibandingkan dg hasilnya pada a

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009

[Elaine Sui]

*Answer this, noob. [?] Which one is commonly used to measure **future
economic growth:
a. Copper spot price
b. Crude Oil
c. Consumer price index
d. GDP
e. none above

I bet you can't answer that.

Elaine
**
*2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 

> I'd like to appreciate your views dan comments honey, but I'm still
> newbie on my nov first posting :)
>
> Btw, Have a Nice weekend.
>
> Regards
>
>
> Elaine Sui  wrote:
> >
> > *You're not new around here, are you? well whoever you were,
> welcome back
> > but you don't have to play noob lol fgod sake.. [?]
> >
> > Elaine**
> > *
> > 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
> >
> > > Ic honey, I actually use both, TA & FA, plus learning more macro-
> > > econ, global commodties  market trend ...
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > >
> > > "Elaine Sui"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > *You know, most ppl is actually losing money by using technical
> > > because they
> > > > don't really know how to use it. Technical is like a hand gun,
> it
> > > can save
> > > > your life, or make yourself killed.
> > > >
> > > > It's the man behind the gun.. (lol now where did I ever hear
> that
> > > before..)
> > > >
> > > > Elaine**
> > > > *
> > > > 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
> > > >
> > > > > Benar Pak gak usah takut dikatakan bodo, pede aja walau kalah
> sama
> > > > > senior2, namanya belajar, kalo meleset wajar
> > > > >
> > > > > Mungkin saya termasuk 'Newbie' ya karena pertama kali posting
> baru
> > > > > mulai tgl 24 nop 2008, salah biasa :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Peace
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ruzli  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Namanya belajar sih ga ada bodo nya Pak Y, sy jg mau post
> chart
> > > > > sektor
> > > > > > banking tp takut kelihatan bodonya sm senior2 disini :> .
> Kalau
> > > di
> > > > > > chart sy, BBRI dan BMRI ada Divergence Negatif antara Price
> &
> > > > > Volume,
> > > > > > kalau BBNI dan BDMN Divergence Positif. Kemungkinan akan
> koreksi
> > > > > tgl 7
> > > > > > Jan 09, sesi 2, setelah pengumuman BI Rate. Untuk tgl 5 Jan
> sy
> > > jg
> > > > > > optimis ijo Pak Y.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
> > > > > > > Chart DJIA udah diposting sama Pak Tirta. Santa Claus
> wave-nya
> > > > > IHSG
> > > > > > > juga udah diposting sama Embah. Saya nggak usah posting
> lagi
> > > lah,
> > > > > > > nanti malah keliatan bodonya.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yang jelas saya masih yakin sama chart yang dulu saya
> post. 5
> > > > > Januari
> > > > > > > akan jadi hari pembuktian.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli
> 
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Semua orang bisa bikin prediksi.
> > > > > > >> Tidak begitu penting hasilnya benar atau salah.
> > > > > > >> Yg penting ada reason/alasan nya.
> > > > > > >> Kalau pakai TA, mohon disertakan chartnya, baik itu
> > > candlestick,
> > > > > > >> stochastic,dll.
> > > > > > >> Kalau pakai FA, mohon data-datanya, baik itu analisa
> laporan
> > > > > > > keuangan,
> > > > > > >> maupun yg lainnya.
> > > > > > >> Data + analisa = konklusi
> > > > > > >> Kalau cuma pakai feelingmology, berarti sm seperti mama
> > > loren,
> > > > > cuma
> > > > > > > ho ki te it
> > > > > > >> Di tahun 09, milis OB harus lebih OK.
> > > > > > >> Mbah, New Year Resolution milis OB apa nih. Mungkin ada
> > > saran,
> > > > > > > masukan
> > > > > > >> buat ke depan?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Regards
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
> > > > > > >> > Kalo versi saya IHSG 5 Januari 150% UP. DJIA & oil
> breakout
> > > > > > > trendline-
> > > > > > >> > nya, very2 awesome signal. Saatnya kita gas pol, 1430
> here
> > > we
> > > > > > > come...
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "FromBuitenzorg"
> > > > > > >> >  wrote:
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >> Boleh gak ya test prediksi ? Untuk membuktikan
> sulitnya
> > > > > > > memprediksi
> > > > > > >> >> masa depan. Bukan mo nyaingin mama loren yg
> ngeramal,  ini
> > > > > > > prediksi
> > > > > > >> >> pasti banyak mleset, . Kalo salah wajar, kalo tepat
> pasti
> > > kita
> > > > > > >> > cepat
> > > > > > >> >> kaya :)
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >> Berikut test prediksi utk tgl 5 januari 2009, Pliz. ..
> > > mohon
> > > > > > > jangan
> > > > > > >> >> diikuti. Gunakan keyakinan masing2 berbasis TA atau
> FA.
> > > Ini
> > > > > hanya
> > > > > > >> >> test yg akan dibandingkan dg hasilnya pada akhir sesi
> tgl
> > > 5,
> > > > > > > HANYA
> > > > > > >> >> ingin membuktikan bhw "sangat SULIT sekali memprediksi
> > > masa
> > > > > > > depan".
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >> Disclaimer banget
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >> ISAT 55 % UP 45% DOWN
> > > > > > >> >> UNVR 60% UP 40% DOWN
> > > > > > >> >> PGAS UP 60% UP 40% DOWN
> > > > > > >> >> INDF 40% UP 60 % DOWN
> > > > > > >> >> BUMI 51% UP 49% DOWN
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >> Maki

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009

[FromBuitenzorg]

I'd like to appreciate your views dan comments honey, but I'm still 
newbie on my nov first posting :)

Btw, Have a Nice weekend.

Regards


Elaine Sui  wrote:
>
> *You're not new around here, are you? well whoever you were, 
welcome back
> but you don't have to play noob lol fgod sake.. [?]
> 
> Elaine**
> *
> 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
> 
> > Ic honey, I actually use both, TA & FA, plus learning more macro-
> > econ, global commodties  market trend ...
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > "Elaine Sui"  wrote:
> > >
> > > *You know, most ppl is actually losing money by using technical
> > because they
> > > don't really know how to use it. Technical is like a hand gun, 
it
> > can save
> > > your life, or make yourself killed.
> > >
> > > It's the man behind the gun.. (lol now where did I ever hear 
that
> > before..)
> > >
> > > Elaine**
> > > *
> > > 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
> > >
> > > > Benar Pak gak usah takut dikatakan bodo, pede aja walau kalah 
sama
> > > > senior2, namanya belajar, kalo meleset wajar
> > > >
> > > > Mungkin saya termasuk 'Newbie' ya karena pertama kali posting 
baru
> > > > mulai tgl 24 nop 2008, salah biasa :)
> > > >
> > > > Peace
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ruzli  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Namanya belajar sih ga ada bodo nya Pak Y, sy jg mau post 
chart
> > > > sektor
> > > > > banking tp takut kelihatan bodonya sm senior2 disini :> . 
Kalau
> > di
> > > > > chart sy, BBRI dan BMRI ada Divergence Negatif antara Price 
&
> > > > Volume,
> > > > > kalau BBNI dan BDMN Divergence Positif. Kemungkinan akan 
koreksi
> > > > tgl 7
> > > > > Jan 09, sesi 2, setelah pengumuman BI Rate. Untuk tgl 5 Jan 
sy
> > jg
> > > > > optimis ijo Pak Y.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
> > > > > > Chart DJIA udah diposting sama Pak Tirta. Santa Claus 
wave-nya
> > > > IHSG
> > > > > > juga udah diposting sama Embah. Saya nggak usah posting 
lagi
> > lah,
> > > > > > nanti malah keliatan bodonya.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yang jelas saya masih yakin sama chart yang dulu saya 
post. 5
> > > > Januari
> > > > > > akan jadi hari pembuktian.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli 

> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Semua orang bisa bikin prediksi.
> > > > > >> Tidak begitu penting hasilnya benar atau salah.
> > > > > >> Yg penting ada reason/alasan nya.
> > > > > >> Kalau pakai TA, mohon disertakan chartnya, baik itu
> > candlestick,
> > > > > >> stochastic,dll.
> > > > > >> Kalau pakai FA, mohon data-datanya, baik itu analisa 
laporan
> > > > > > keuangan,
> > > > > >> maupun yg lainnya.
> > > > > >> Data + analisa = konklusi
> > > > > >> Kalau cuma pakai feelingmology, berarti sm seperti mama
> > loren,
> > > > cuma
> > > > > > ho ki te it
> > > > > >> Di tahun 09, milis OB harus lebih OK.
> > > > > >> Mbah, New Year Resolution milis OB apa nih. Mungkin ada
> > saran,
> > > > > > masukan
> > > > > >> buat ke depan?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Regards
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
> > > > > >> > Kalo versi saya IHSG 5 Januari 150% UP. DJIA & oil 
breakout
> > > > > > trendline-
> > > > > >> > nya, very2 awesome signal. Saatnya kita gas pol, 1430 
here
> > we
> > > > > > come...
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "FromBuitenzorg"
> > > > > >> >  wrote:
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> Boleh gak ya test prediksi ? Untuk membuktikan 
sulitnya
> > > > > > memprediksi
> > > > > >> >> masa depan. Bukan mo nyaingin mama loren yg 
ngeramal,  ini
> > > > > > prediksi
> > > > > >> >> pasti banyak mleset, . Kalo salah wajar, kalo tepat 
pasti
> > kita
> > > > > >> > cepat
> > > > > >> >> kaya :)
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> Berikut test prediksi utk tgl 5 januari 2009, Pliz. ..
> > mohon
> > > > > > jangan
> > > > > >> >> diikuti. Gunakan keyakinan masing2 berbasis TA atau 
FA.
> > Ini
> > > > hanya
> > > > > >> >> test yg akan dibandingkan dg hasilnya pada akhir sesi 
tgl
> > 5,
> > > > > > HANYA
> > > > > >> >> ingin membuktikan bhw "sangat SULIT sekali memprediksi
> > masa
> > > > > > depan".
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> Disclaimer banget
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> ISAT 55 % UP 45% DOWN
> > > > > >> >> UNVR 60% UP 40% DOWN
> > > > > >> >> PGAS UP 60% UP 40% DOWN
> > > > > >> >> INDF 40% UP 60 % DOWN
> > > > > >> >> BUMI 51% UP 49% DOWN
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> Makin tinggi %tase UP adalah besaran kemungkinan up,
> > > > selisihnya
> > > > > >> >> merupakan faktor2 unpredictable. Cek tgl 5 januari
> > melesetnya.
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> Regards
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> --
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > > --
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009

[Elaine Sui]

*You're not new around here, are you? well whoever you were, welcome back
but you don't have to play noob lol fgod sake.. [?]

Elaine**
*
2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 

> Ic honey, I actually use both, TA & FA, plus learning more macro-
> econ, global commodties  market trend ...
>
>
> Regards
>
>
> "Elaine Sui"  wrote:
> >
> > *You know, most ppl is actually losing money by using technical
> because they
> > don't really know how to use it. Technical is like a hand gun, it
> can save
> > your life, or make yourself killed.
> >
> > It's the man behind the gun.. (lol now where did I ever hear that
> before..)
> >
> > Elaine**
> > *
> > 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
> >
> > > Benar Pak gak usah takut dikatakan bodo, pede aja walau kalah sama
> > > senior2, namanya belajar, kalo meleset wajar
> > >
> > > Mungkin saya termasuk 'Newbie' ya karena pertama kali posting baru
> > > mulai tgl 24 nop 2008, salah biasa :)
> > >
> > > Peace
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ruzli  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Namanya belajar sih ga ada bodo nya Pak Y, sy jg mau post chart
> > > sektor
> > > > banking tp takut kelihatan bodonya sm senior2 disini :> . Kalau
> di
> > > > chart sy, BBRI dan BMRI ada Divergence Negatif antara Price &
> > > Volume,
> > > > kalau BBNI dan BDMN Divergence Positif. Kemungkinan akan koreksi
> > > tgl 7
> > > > Jan 09, sesi 2, setelah pengumuman BI Rate. Untuk tgl 5 Jan sy
> jg
> > > > optimis ijo Pak Y.
> > > >
> > > > On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
> > > > > Chart DJIA udah diposting sama Pak Tirta. Santa Claus wave-nya
> > > IHSG
> > > > > juga udah diposting sama Embah. Saya nggak usah posting lagi
> lah,
> > > > > nanti malah keliatan bodonya.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yang jelas saya masih yakin sama chart yang dulu saya post. 5
> > > Januari
> > > > > akan jadi hari pembuktian.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Semua orang bisa bikin prediksi.
> > > > >> Tidak begitu penting hasilnya benar atau salah.
> > > > >> Yg penting ada reason/alasan nya.
> > > > >> Kalau pakai TA, mohon disertakan chartnya, baik itu
> candlestick,
> > > > >> stochastic,dll.
> > > > >> Kalau pakai FA, mohon data-datanya, baik itu analisa laporan
> > > > > keuangan,
> > > > >> maupun yg lainnya.
> > > > >> Data + analisa = konklusi
> > > > >> Kalau cuma pakai feelingmology, berarti sm seperti mama
> loren,
> > > cuma
> > > > > ho ki te it
> > > > >> Di tahun 09, milis OB harus lebih OK.
> > > > >> Mbah, New Year Resolution milis OB apa nih. Mungkin ada
> saran,
> > > > > masukan
> > > > >> buat ke depan?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Regards
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
> > > > >> > Kalo versi saya IHSG 5 Januari 150% UP. DJIA & oil breakout
> > > > > trendline-
> > > > >> > nya, very2 awesome signal. Saatnya kita gas pol, 1430 here
> we
> > > > > come...
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "FromBuitenzorg"
> > > > >> >  wrote:
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> Boleh gak ya test prediksi ? Untuk membuktikan sulitnya
> > > > > memprediksi
> > > > >> >> masa depan. Bukan mo nyaingin mama loren yg ngeramal,  ini
> > > > > prediksi
> > > > >> >> pasti banyak mleset, . Kalo salah wajar, kalo tepat pasti
> kita
> > > > >> > cepat
> > > > >> >> kaya :)
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> Berikut test prediksi utk tgl 5 januari 2009, Pliz. ..
> mohon
> > > > > jangan
> > > > >> >> diikuti. Gunakan keyakinan masing2 berbasis TA atau FA.
> Ini
> > > hanya
> > > > >> >> test yg akan dibandingkan dg hasilnya pada akhir sesi tgl
> 5,
> > > > > HANYA
> > > > >> >> ingin membuktikan bhw "sangat SULIT sekali memprediksi
> masa
> > > > > depan".
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> Disclaimer banget
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> ISAT 55 % UP 45% DOWN
> > > > >> >> UNVR 60% UP 40% DOWN
> > > > >> >> PGAS UP 60% UP 40% DOWN
> > > > >> >> INDF 40% UP 60 % DOWN
> > > > >> >> BUMI 51% UP 49% DOWN
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> Makin tinggi %tase UP adalah besaran kemungkinan up,
> > > selisihnya
> > > > >> >> merupakan faktor2 unpredictable. Cek tgl 5 januari
> melesetnya.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> Regards
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Sent from my mobile device
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Sent from my mobile device
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > + +
> > > + + + + +
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> > > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
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>
> + +
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> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
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>
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009

[FromBuitenzorg]

Ic honey, I actually use both, TA & FA, plus learning more macro-
econ, global commodties  market trend ...


Regards


"Elaine Sui"  wrote:
>
> *You know, most ppl is actually losing money by using technical 
because they
> don't really know how to use it. Technical is like a hand gun, it 
can save
> your life, or make yourself killed.
> 
> It's the man behind the gun.. (lol now where did I ever hear that 
before..)
> 
> Elaine**
> *
> 2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 
> 
> > Benar Pak gak usah takut dikatakan bodo, pede aja walau kalah sama
> > senior2, namanya belajar, kalo meleset wajar
> >
> > Mungkin saya termasuk 'Newbie' ya karena pertama kali posting baru
> > mulai tgl 24 nop 2008, salah biasa :)
> >
> > Peace
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> >
> > ruzli  wrote:
> > >
> > > Namanya belajar sih ga ada bodo nya Pak Y, sy jg mau post chart
> > sektor
> > > banking tp takut kelihatan bodonya sm senior2 disini :> . Kalau 
di
> > > chart sy, BBRI dan BMRI ada Divergence Negatif antara Price &
> > Volume,
> > > kalau BBNI dan BDMN Divergence Positif. Kemungkinan akan koreksi
> > tgl 7
> > > Jan 09, sesi 2, setelah pengumuman BI Rate. Untuk tgl 5 Jan sy 
jg
> > > optimis ijo Pak Y.
> > >
> > > On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
> > > > Chart DJIA udah diposting sama Pak Tirta. Santa Claus wave-nya
> > IHSG
> > > > juga udah diposting sama Embah. Saya nggak usah posting lagi 
lah,
> > > > nanti malah keliatan bodonya.
> > > >
> > > > Yang jelas saya masih yakin sama chart yang dulu saya post. 5
> > Januari
> > > > akan jadi hari pembuktian.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Semua orang bisa bikin prediksi.
> > > >> Tidak begitu penting hasilnya benar atau salah.
> > > >> Yg penting ada reason/alasan nya.
> > > >> Kalau pakai TA, mohon disertakan chartnya, baik itu 
candlestick,
> > > >> stochastic,dll.
> > > >> Kalau pakai FA, mohon data-datanya, baik itu analisa laporan
> > > > keuangan,
> > > >> maupun yg lainnya.
> > > >> Data + analisa = konklusi
> > > >> Kalau cuma pakai feelingmology, berarti sm seperti mama 
loren,
> > cuma
> > > > ho ki te it
> > > >> Di tahun 09, milis OB harus lebih OK.
> > > >> Mbah, New Year Resolution milis OB apa nih. Mungkin ada 
saran,
> > > > masukan
> > > >> buat ke depan?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards
> > > >>
> > > >> On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
> > > >> > Kalo versi saya IHSG 5 Januari 150% UP. DJIA & oil breakout
> > > > trendline-
> > > >> > nya, very2 awesome signal. Saatnya kita gas pol, 1430 here 
we
> > > > come...
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "FromBuitenzorg"
> > > >> >  wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Boleh gak ya test prediksi ? Untuk membuktikan sulitnya
> > > > memprediksi
> > > >> >> masa depan. Bukan mo nyaingin mama loren yg ngeramal,  ini
> > > > prediksi
> > > >> >> pasti banyak mleset, . Kalo salah wajar, kalo tepat pasti 
kita
> > > >> > cepat
> > > >> >> kaya :)
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Berikut test prediksi utk tgl 5 januari 2009, Pliz. .. 
mohon
> > > > jangan
> > > >> >> diikuti. Gunakan keyakinan masing2 berbasis TA atau FA. 
Ini
> > hanya
> > > >> >> test yg akan dibandingkan dg hasilnya pada akhir sesi tgl 
5,
> > > > HANYA
> > > >> >> ingin membuktikan bhw "sangat SULIT sekali memprediksi 
masa
> > > > depan".
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Disclaimer banget
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> ISAT 55 % UP 45% DOWN
> > > >> >> UNVR 60% UP 40% DOWN
> > > >> >> PGAS UP 60% UP 40% DOWN
> > > >> >> INDF 40% UP 60 % DOWN
> > > >> >> BUMI 51% UP 49% DOWN
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Makin tinggi %tase UP adalah besaran kemungkinan up,
> > selisihnya
> > > >> >> merupakan faktor2 unpredictable. Cek tgl 5 januari 
melesetnya.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Regards
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Sent from my mobile device
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sent from my mobile device
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > + +
> > + + + + +
> > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> > + + + + +
> > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009

[Elaine Sui]

*You know, most ppl is actually losing money by using technical because they
don't really know how to use it. Technical is like a hand gun, it can save
your life, or make yourself killed.

It's the man behind the gun.. (lol now where did I ever hear that before..)

Elaine**
*
2009/1/3 FromBuitenzorg 

> Benar Pak gak usah takut dikatakan bodo, pede aja walau kalah sama
> senior2, namanya belajar, kalo meleset wajar
>
> Mungkin saya termasuk 'Newbie' ya karena pertama kali posting baru
> mulai tgl 24 nop 2008, salah biasa :)
>
> Peace
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> ruzli  wrote:
> >
> > Namanya belajar sih ga ada bodo nya Pak Y, sy jg mau post chart
> sektor
> > banking tp takut kelihatan bodonya sm senior2 disini :> . Kalau di
> > chart sy, BBRI dan BMRI ada Divergence Negatif antara Price &
> Volume,
> > kalau BBNI dan BDMN Divergence Positif. Kemungkinan akan koreksi
> tgl 7
> > Jan 09, sesi 2, setelah pengumuman BI Rate. Untuk tgl 5 Jan sy jg
> > optimis ijo Pak Y.
> >
> > On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
> > > Chart DJIA udah diposting sama Pak Tirta. Santa Claus wave-nya
> IHSG
> > > juga udah diposting sama Embah. Saya nggak usah posting lagi lah,
> > > nanti malah keliatan bodonya.
> > >
> > > Yang jelas saya masih yakin sama chart yang dulu saya post. 5
> Januari
> > > akan jadi hari pembuktian.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli 
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Semua orang bisa bikin prediksi.
> > >> Tidak begitu penting hasilnya benar atau salah.
> > >> Yg penting ada reason/alasan nya.
> > >> Kalau pakai TA, mohon disertakan chartnya, baik itu candlestick,
> > >> stochastic,dll.
> > >> Kalau pakai FA, mohon data-datanya, baik itu analisa laporan
> > > keuangan,
> > >> maupun yg lainnya.
> > >> Data + analisa = konklusi
> > >> Kalau cuma pakai feelingmology, berarti sm seperti mama loren,
> cuma
> > > ho ki te it
> > >> Di tahun 09, milis OB harus lebih OK.
> > >> Mbah, New Year Resolution milis OB apa nih. Mungkin ada saran,
> > > masukan
> > >> buat ke depan?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Regards
> > >>
> > >> On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
> > >> > Kalo versi saya IHSG 5 Januari 150% UP. DJIA & oil breakout
> > > trendline-
> > >> > nya, very2 awesome signal. Saatnya kita gas pol, 1430 here we
> > > come...
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "FromBuitenzorg"
> > >> >  wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Boleh gak ya test prediksi ? Untuk membuktikan sulitnya
> > > memprediksi
> > >> >> masa depan. Bukan mo nyaingin mama loren yg ngeramal,  ini
> > > prediksi
> > >> >> pasti banyak mleset, . Kalo salah wajar, kalo tepat pasti kita
> > >> > cepat
> > >> >> kaya :)
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Berikut test prediksi utk tgl 5 januari 2009, Pliz. .. mohon
> > > jangan
> > >> >> diikuti. Gunakan keyakinan masing2 berbasis TA atau FA. Ini
> hanya
> > >> >> test yg akan dibandingkan dg hasilnya pada akhir sesi tgl 5,
> > > HANYA
> > >> >> ingin membuktikan bhw "sangat SULIT sekali memprediksi masa
> > > depan".
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Disclaimer banget
> > >> >>
> > >> >> ISAT 55 % UP 45% DOWN
> > >> >> UNVR 60% UP 40% DOWN
> > >> >> PGAS UP 60% UP 40% DOWN
> > >> >> INDF 40% UP 60 % DOWN
> > >> >> BUMI 51% UP 49% DOWN
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Makin tinggi %tase UP adalah besaran kemungkinan up,
> selisihnya
> > >> >> merupakan faktor2 unpredictable. Cek tgl 5 januari melesetnya.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Regards
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Sent from my mobile device
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Sent from my mobile device
> >
>
>
>
> 
>
> + +
> + + + + +
> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> + + + + +
> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009

[FromBuitenzorg]

Benar Pak gak usah takut dikatakan bodo, pede aja walau kalah sama 
senior2, namanya belajar, kalo meleset wajar

Mungkin saya termasuk 'Newbie' ya karena pertama kali posting baru 
mulai tgl 24 nop 2008, salah biasa :)

Peace

Regards



ruzli  wrote:
>
> Namanya belajar sih ga ada bodo nya Pak Y, sy jg mau post chart 
sektor
> banking tp takut kelihatan bodonya sm senior2 disini :> . Kalau di
> chart sy, BBRI dan BMRI ada Divergence Negatif antara Price & 
Volume,
> kalau BBNI dan BDMN Divergence Positif. Kemungkinan akan koreksi 
tgl 7
> Jan 09, sesi 2, setelah pengumuman BI Rate. Untuk tgl 5 Jan sy jg
> optimis ijo Pak Y.
> 
> On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
> > Chart DJIA udah diposting sama Pak Tirta. Santa Claus wave-nya 
IHSG
> > juga udah diposting sama Embah. Saya nggak usah posting lagi lah,
> > nanti malah keliatan bodonya.
> >
> > Yang jelas saya masih yakin sama chart yang dulu saya post. 5 
Januari
> > akan jadi hari pembuktian.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Semua orang bisa bikin prediksi.
> >> Tidak begitu penting hasilnya benar atau salah.
> >> Yg penting ada reason/alasan nya.
> >> Kalau pakai TA, mohon disertakan chartnya, baik itu candlestick,
> >> stochastic,dll.
> >> Kalau pakai FA, mohon data-datanya, baik itu analisa laporan
> > keuangan,
> >> maupun yg lainnya.
> >> Data + analisa = konklusi
> >> Kalau cuma pakai feelingmology, berarti sm seperti mama loren, 
cuma
> > ho ki te it
> >> Di tahun 09, milis OB harus lebih OK.
> >> Mbah, New Year Resolution milis OB apa nih. Mungkin ada saran,
> > masukan
> >> buat ke depan?
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
> >> > Kalo versi saya IHSG 5 Januari 150% UP. DJIA & oil breakout
> > trendline-
> >> > nya, very2 awesome signal. Saatnya kita gas pol, 1430 here we
> > come...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "FromBuitenzorg"
> >> >  wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Boleh gak ya test prediksi ? Untuk membuktikan sulitnya
> > memprediksi
> >> >> masa depan. Bukan mo nyaingin mama loren yg ngeramal,  ini
> > prediksi
> >> >> pasti banyak mleset, . Kalo salah wajar, kalo tepat pasti kita
> >> > cepat
> >> >> kaya :)
> >> >>
> >> >> Berikut test prediksi utk tgl 5 januari 2009, Pliz. .. mohon
> > jangan
> >> >> diikuti. Gunakan keyakinan masing2 berbasis TA atau FA. Ini 
hanya
> >> >> test yg akan dibandingkan dg hasilnya pada akhir sesi tgl 5,
> > HANYA
> >> >> ingin membuktikan bhw "sangat SULIT sekali memprediksi masa
> > depan".
> >> >>
> >> >> Disclaimer banget
> >> >>
> >> >> ISAT 55 % UP 45% DOWN
> >> >> UNVR 60% UP 40% DOWN
> >> >> PGAS UP 60% UP 40% DOWN
> >> >> INDF 40% UP 60 % DOWN
> >> >> BUMI 51% UP 49% DOWN
> >> >>
> >> >> Makin tinggi %tase UP adalah besaran kemungkinan up, 
selisihnya
> >> >> merupakan faktor2 unpredictable. Cek tgl 5 januari melesetnya.
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> Sent from my mobile device
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> 
> -- 
> Sent from my mobile device
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009

[FromBuitenzorg]

IHSG

- 1360-1375 kemungkinan 34 %, basis TA setengah bulan terakhir
- 1375.01 -1400 kemungkinan 36 % basis TA 20 hari terakhir
- 1400.01 Up kemungkinan 28 %, basis TA satu bulan
- Draw atau malah bearish kemungkinan 2 %, unpredicted event

IHSG bisa 1400.01 -Up kalo pengaruh global pasar saham positif 
dan "sangat kuat" 

mempengaruhi sentimen  pasar
Disclaimer

Regards

"y_dizz"  wrote:
>
> Kalo versi saya IHSG 5 Januari 150% UP. DJIA & oil breakout 
trendline-nya, very2 awesome signal. Saatnya kita gas pol, 1430 here 
we come...
> 
> 
"FromBuitenzorg" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > Boleh gak ya test prediksi ? Untuk membuktikan sulitnya 
memprediksi masa depan. Bukan mo nyaingin mama loren yg ngeramal,  
ini prediksi 
> > pasti banyak mleset, . Kalo salah wajar, kalo tepat pasti kita 
> cepat kaya :)
> > 
> > Berikut test prediksi utk tgl 5 januari 2009, Pliz. .. mohon 
jangan 
> > diikuti. Gunakan keyakinan masing2 berbasis TA atau FA. Ini hanya 
test yg akan dibandingkan dg hasilnya pada akhir sesi tgl 5, HANYA 
> > ingin membuktikan bhw "sangat SULIT sekali memprediksi masa 
depan". 
> > 
> > Disclaimer banget
> > 
> > ISAT 55 % UP 45% DOWN 
> > UNVR 60% UP 40% DOWN 
> > PGAS UP 60% UP 40% DOWN
> > INDF 40% UP 60 % DOWN 
> > BUMI 51% UP 49% DOWN
> > 
> > Makin tinggi %tase UP adalah besaran kemungkinan up, selisihnya 
> > merupakan faktor2 unpredictable. Cek tgl 5 januari melesetnya.
> > 
> > Regards
> >
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009

[y_dizz]

Chart DJIA udah diposting sama Pak Tirta. Santa Claus wave-nya IHSG 
juga udah diposting sama Embah. Saya nggak usah posting lagi lah, 
nanti malah keliatan bodonya.

Yang jelas saya masih yakin sama chart yang dulu saya post. 5 Januari 
akan jadi hari pembuktian.



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli  
wrote:
>
> Semua orang bisa bikin prediksi.
> Tidak begitu penting hasilnya benar atau salah.
> Yg penting ada reason/alasan nya.
> Kalau pakai TA, mohon disertakan chartnya, baik itu candlestick,
> stochastic,dll.
> Kalau pakai FA, mohon data-datanya, baik itu analisa laporan 
keuangan,
> maupun yg lainnya.
> Data + analisa = konklusi
> Kalau cuma pakai feelingmology, berarti sm seperti mama loren, cuma 
ho ki te it
> Di tahun 09, milis OB harus lebih OK.
> Mbah, New Year Resolution milis OB apa nih. Mungkin ada saran, 
masukan
> buat ke depan?
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> On 1/3/09, y_dizz  wrote:
> > Kalo versi saya IHSG 5 Januari 150% UP. DJIA & oil breakout 
trendline-
> > nya, very2 awesome signal. Saatnya kita gas pol, 1430 here we 
come...
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "FromBuitenzorg"
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> Boleh gak ya test prediksi ? Untuk membuktikan sulitnya 
memprediksi
> >> masa depan. Bukan mo nyaingin mama loren yg ngeramal,  ini 
prediksi
> >> pasti banyak mleset, . Kalo salah wajar, kalo tepat pasti kita
> > cepat
> >> kaya :)
> >>
> >> Berikut test prediksi utk tgl 5 januari 2009, Pliz. .. mohon 
jangan
> >> diikuti. Gunakan keyakinan masing2 berbasis TA atau FA. Ini hanya
> >> test yg akan dibandingkan dg hasilnya pada akhir sesi tgl 5, 
HANYA
> >> ingin membuktikan bhw "sangat SULIT sekali memprediksi masa 
depan".
> >>
> >> Disclaimer banget
> >>
> >> ISAT 55 % UP 45% DOWN
> >> UNVR 60% UP 40% DOWN
> >> PGAS UP 60% UP 40% DOWN
> >> INDF 40% UP 60 % DOWN
> >> BUMI 51% UP 49% DOWN
> >>
> >> Makin tinggi %tase UP adalah besaran kemungkinan up, selisihnya
> >> merupakan faktor2 unpredictable. Cek tgl 5 januari melesetnya.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> 
> -- 
> Sent from my mobile device
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009

[Teguh Riswono]

From: y_dizz 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 3, 2009 8:59:36 AM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009


>Kalo versi saya IHSG 5 Januari 150% UP. DJIA & oil breakout trendline-
>nya, very2 awesome signal. Saatnya kita GAS pol, 1430 here we come...

Wah.. ini dari pak dizz kayanya kebetulan pengaruh sikis nya ke PGAS hohoo


  

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Prediksi Saham tgl 5 Januari 2009

[y_dizz]

Kalo versi saya IHSG 5 Januari 150% UP. DJIA & oil breakout trendline-
nya, very2 awesome signal. Saatnya kita gas pol, 1430 here we come...



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "FromBuitenzorg" 
 wrote:
>
> Boleh gak ya test prediksi ? Untuk membuktikan sulitnya memprediksi 
> masa depan. Bukan mo nyaingin mama loren yg ngeramal,  ini prediksi 
> pasti banyak mleset, . Kalo salah wajar, kalo tepat pasti kita 
cepat 
> kaya :)
> 
> Berikut test prediksi utk tgl 5 januari 2009, Pliz. .. mohon jangan 
> diikuti. Gunakan keyakinan masing2 berbasis TA atau FA. Ini hanya 
> test yg akan dibandingkan dg hasilnya pada akhir sesi tgl 5, HANYA 
> ingin membuktikan bhw "sangat SULIT sekali memprediksi masa depan". 
> 
> Disclaimer banget
> 
> ISAT 55 % UP 45% DOWN 
> UNVR 60% UP 40% DOWN 
> PGAS UP 60% UP 40% DOWN
> INDF 40% UP 60 % DOWN 
> BUMI 51% UP 49% DOWN
> 
> Makin tinggi %tase UP adalah besaran kemungkinan up, selisihnya 
> merupakan faktor2 unpredictable. Cek tgl 5 januari melesetnya.
> 
> Regards
>