Re: Bls: [ob] Dubai Means Emerging Markets ‘Correction’ to Mobius (Update2)

2009-11-27 Terurut Topik D O D I K
Kalau ke 900, gimana mau loncat? Wakakakak

--- On Fri, 11/27/09, dario kurniawan darioamran1...@yahoo.co.id wrote:

 From: dario kurniawan darioamran1...@yahoo.co.id
 Subject: Bls: [ob] Dubai Means Emerging Markets ‘Correction’ to Mobius 
 (Update2)
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, November 27, 2009, 8:57 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   Ambil
 positifnya dari artikel tadi hehehe..
 
 Stocks retreated in the U.S. and Asia, government bonds
 jumped and credit-default swaps climbed after Dubai World
 ---
 semua TA market global sebelum kejadian dubai emang udah
 minta koreksi..koreksi dalem
 lebih cepat lebih baik...ini koreksi
 besar bukan crash kata siapa (lupa) yg bilang di milis ini
 sebelumnya.. gw setuju dgn dia
 
 “This may be the trigger to allow for the market to take a rest and pull
 back,” Mobius said in a Bloomberg--- -- koreksi biar
 bisa loncat lebih tinggi lagi...
 
 hehehe..bentaran
  lagi ada counter dari WB nih.Mobius vs WB ??
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Dario Amran
 
 --- Pada Sab, 28/11/09, AB asepbuh...@yahoo.
 com menulis:
 
 Dari: AB asepbuh...@yahoo. com
 Judul: [ob] Dubai Means Emerging Markets ‘Correction’
 to Mobius (Update2)
 Kepada: obrolan-bandar obrolan-bandar@
 yahoogroups. com
 Tanggal: Sabtu, 28 November, 2009, 8:58 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
   
   
   si mobius ama roubini ngomong apa sih? 
 
 om DE tolong terjemahin lagi yak.
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 Dubai Means Emerging Markets ‘Correction’ to Mobius
 (Update2) 
 
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 By Zeb Eckert, Reinie Booysen and Rita Nazareth
 
 Nov. 27 (Bloomberg) -- Dubai’s attempt to reschedule debt
 may spur a “correction” in emerging markets, according
 to Mark Mobius, while the global slump in equities shows
 government spending alone won’t protect financial markets,
 Arnab Das of Roubini Global Economics said. 
 
 Mobius, who oversees about $25 billion of developing-nation
 assets as chairman of Templeton Asset Management Ltd., said
 a 20 percent drop for shares is “quite possible.” Stock
 volatility and risk aversion may jump as countries and
 companies default on loans, according to Das, the head of
 market research and strategy at RGE, the advisory firm
 founded by Nouriel Roubini. 
 
 Stocks retreated in the U.S. and Asia, government bonds
 jumped and credit-default swaps climbed after Dubai World,
 the government investment company burdened by $59 billion of
 liabilities, sought to delay repayment of debt. The MSCI
 Emerging Markets Index has slumped 3.9 percent in the past
 two days after more than doubling from its 2009 low in
 March. 
 
 “This may be the trigger to allow for the market to take
 a rest and pull back,” Mobius said in a Bloomberg
 Television interview by phone from Hanoi. “I felt that
 there would be a significant correction in what is an
 ongoing bull market,” he said. “If Dubai has to default,
 that could start a wave of defaults in other areas.” 
 
 ‘Sweet Spot’ 
 
 MSCI’s gauge of emerging nations has advanced 66 percent
 this year, more than double the gain in developed markets,
 as a rally in commodities buoyed stocks from Brazil to
 Russia and economists estimated that China was the only
 economy of the world’s 10 largest to expand in 2009. 
 
 Mobius said emerging market stocks were in a “sweet
 spot” in September 2006, before MSCI’s index of emerging
 countries surged 71 percent. He failed to predict the
 retreat that began in October 2007 and told Bloomberg radio
 in August 2008 that a 28 percent decline in the index was
 “overdone.” The measure lost more than half its value in
 the next two months, falling to a four-year low on Oct. 27,
 2008. 
 
 The MSCI World Index of 23 developed countries has added 24
 percent this year, rebounding from its biggest annual
 decline on record as the Federal Reserve spent, lent or
 guaranteed $11.6 trillion and held interest rates near zero
 to unlock credit markets and end the first simultaneous
 recessions in the U.S., Europe and Japan since World War II.
 
 
 ‘Risk Aversion’ 
 
 Dubai, which borrowed $80 billion in a four-year
 construction boom to transform its economy into a tourism
 and financial hub, suffered the world’s steepest property
 slump in the recession. Home prices fell 50 percent from
 their 2008 peak, according to Frankfurt-based Deutsche Bank
 AG. 
 
 “We’re bound to see a rise in risk aversion,” Das,
 who is based in London, said in a telephone interview
 yesterday. “The Dubai situation signifies that although
 the major central banks around the world have stabilized the
 financial system, they can’t make all the excesses simply
 disappear. We still have to work out those balance-sheet
 stresses. The recovery is proceeding, but significant
 challenges still lie ahead.” 
 
 Das, the former head of emerging-markets strategy at
 Dresdner Kleinwort, joined RGE last month to lead a team
 that advises on allocations in stocks

Re: Bls: [ob] Dubai Means Emerging Markets ‘Correction’ to Mobius (Update2)

2009-11-27 Terurut Topik dario kurniawan
index nya apa si itu nya ? hahahaha...(ketawa mbah surip)

Dario Amran

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  Kalau ke 900, gimana mau loncat? Wakakakak



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 From: dario kurniawan darioamran1976@ yahoo.co. id

 Subject: Bls: [ob] Dubai Means Emerging Markets ‘Correction’ to Mobius 
 (Update2)

 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

 Date: Friday, November 27, 2009, 8:57 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

  

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

   

   

   Ambil

 positifnya dari artikel tadi hehehe..

 

 Stocks retreated in the U.S. and Asia, government bonds

 jumped and credit-default swaps climbed after Dubai World

 ---

 semua TA market global sebelum kejadian dubai emang udah

 minta koreksi..koreksi dalem

 lebih cepat lebih baik...ini koreksi

 besar bukan crash kata siapa (lupa) yg bilang di milis ini

 sebelumnya.. gw setuju dgn dia

 

 “This may be the trigger to allow for the market to take a rest and pull

 back,” Mobius said in a Bloomberg--- -- koreksi biar

 bisa loncat lebih tinggi lagi...

 

 hehehe..bentaran

  lagi ada counter dari WB nih.Mobius vs WB ??

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Dario Amran

 

 --- Pada Sab, 28/11/09, AB asepbuhori@ yahoo.

 com menulis:

 

 Dari: AB asepbuhori@ yahoo. com

 Judul: [ob] Dubai Means Emerging Markets ‘Correction’

 to Mobius (Update2)

 Kepada: obrolan-bandar obrolan-bandar@

 yahoogroups. com

 Tanggal: Sabtu, 28 November, 2009, 8:58 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

   

   

   si mobius ama roubini ngomong apa sih? 

 

 om DE tolong terjemahin lagi yak.

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

 Dubai Means Emerging Markets ‘Correction’ to Mobius

 (Update2) 

 

 Share Business ExchangeTwitterFace book| Email | Print | A

 A A 

 

 By Zeb Eckert, Reinie Booysen and Rita Nazareth

 

 Nov. 27 (Bloomberg) -- Dubai’s attempt to reschedule debt

 may spur a “correction” in emerging markets, according

 to Mark Mobius, while the global slump in equities shows

 government spending alone won’t protect financial markets,

 Arnab Das of Roubini Global Economics said. 

 

 Mobius, who oversees about $25 billion of developing-nation

 assets as chairman of Templeton Asset Management Ltd., said

 a 20 percent drop for shares is “quite possible.” Stock

 volatility and risk aversion may jump as countries and

 companies default on loans, according to Das, the head of

 market research and strategy at RGE, the advisory firm

 founded by Nouriel Roubini. 

 

 Stocks retreated in the U.S. and Asia, government bonds

 jumped and credit-default swaps climbed after Dubai World,

 the government investment company burdened by $59 billion of

 liabilities, sought to delay repayment of debt. The MSCI

 Emerging Markets Index has slumped 3.9 percent in the past

 two days after more than doubling from its 2009 low in

 March. 

 

 “This may be the trigger to allow for the market to take

 a rest and pull back,” Mobius said in a Bloomberg

 Television interview by phone from Hanoi. “I felt that

 there would be a significant correction in what is an

 ongoing bull market,” he said. “If Dubai has to default,

 that could start a wave of defaults in other areas.” 

 

 ‘Sweet Spot’ 

 

 MSCI’s gauge of emerging nations has advanced 66 percent

 this year, more than double the gain in developed markets,

 as a rally in commodities buoyed stocks from Brazil to

 Russia and economists estimated that China was the only

 economy of the world’s 10 largest to expand in 2009. 

 

 Mobius said emerging market stocks were in a “sweet

 spot” in September 2006, before MSCI’s index of emerging

 countries surged 71 percent. He failed to predict the

 retreat that began in October 2007 and told Bloomberg radio

 in August 2008 that a 28 percent decline in the index was

 “overdone.” The measure lost more than half its value in

 the next two months, falling to a four-year low on Oct. 27,

 2008. 

 

 The MSCI World Index of 23 developed countries has added 24

 percent this year, rebounding from its biggest annual

 decline on record as the Federal Reserve spent, lent or

 guaranteed $11.6 trillion and held interest rates near zero

 to unlock credit markets and end the first simultaneous

 recessions in the U.S., Europe and Japan since World War II.

 

 

 ‘Risk Aversion’ 

 

 Dubai, which borrowed $80 billion in a four-year

 construction boom to transform its economy into a tourism

 and financial hub, suffered the world’s steepest property

 slump in the recession. Home prices fell 50 percent from

 their 2008 peak, according to Frankfurt-based Deutsche Bank

 AG. 

 

 “We’re bound to see a rise in risk