Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)

2008-11-30 Terurut Topik Desmond Wira
Kesusahan hari ini cukuplah buat hari ini
Cape deh dengerin DJI bakal 6XXX, IHSG bakal 9XX, 
kalau sekarang TA dan FA IHSG menunjukkan sinyal positif nikmati saja sambil 
mencari cuan sebisanya
urusan tahun depan bearish, buat tahun depan saja, kalau masih bear lagi, 
tinggal ngabur atau long term aja toh

Salam 
DW





From: Yanuar Mustofa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2008 11:18:37 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)


Psycological War will be Begin Noww.
hehehehhe

who's the winner prediction?? EL or Ratu Sima...we'll see lahhh..
for OB Follower like me its just ask Mr. jsx consultant to clarify...

Mbahhh.. ..tulung ni...
sesuai analisa mbah...kta ikutin sapa neh...EL or Ratu Sima..

Thnks yaa mbahhh





From: Elaine Sui 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, 1 December 2008 11:06:06
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)


Blah. BUY more! The statement below was valid only if been stated a year ago. 
Next year, when DJI breaks above 11k, you won't be so sure anymore about your 
'release'... ha ha ha... Market goes up and down, so volatile you would miss 
the TREND. Sure, the economy stumbles, but It won't fall. Smart people, those 
like Buffett and Soros, would see this as a rare good opportunity. I see it 
too, so I'll let you guys know. Hell, IDX shouldn't fall below 2k if there' was 
no BUMI around.

Now I challenge you, IDX will be well above 1800 over the next 6 months, DJI 
above 11K, crude oil around $70 - $90.

Elaine


On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Ratu Sima <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:

Embah, let Aimee clarify…

I am inspired to say this as I smell a major misapprehension. I need 
to stay poised.
You can adopt it as the different version of the global market watch.
Let me exclaim it out loud. "THE MARKET IS STILL BEARISH".
Temporary positive correction will keep on quite sometime, though.
At the beginning of New Year 2009, rebalancing portfolio is STILL 
indispensable.

HOWEVER, the quandary that we will encounter next year is much 
harder.

Let me verify plainly as follows:

1.  Oil price still remains volatile. Despite Iran's challenge 
of its resistance power, Arab's King's recall of $75 and OPEC's 
breathless effort to establish supply & demand equilibrium, the 
sudden oil price increase is NOT likely to happen. This is due to 
imperfect timing and momentum. In addition, the speculators who have 
bubbled oil to $147 are still bearish-minded as well. How do they 
work? Oil & commodities speculators exploit `buy & roll-over 
strategy' in their trading tactic. It is also attributed to the 
market failure factor. THIS confirms how oil had bubbled in a 
stunningly way up to July 08. After successfully READING the 
recession scenario and substantial demand's decline, they cashed 
out, quit, and oil price crashed. Don't also forget that oil price 
movement is in line with GDP and stock market's growth. Both Iran 
and Arab have stubbornly-smart brain. Not only they produce oil 
massively but they have also hoarded it in their expensively- rented 
tankers. I giggled aloud when the President proclaimed that IRAN is 
safe even if the oil price goes down to $5. Regrettably, oil is the 
pilot for commodities, energy and agriculture sector. If oil price 
is still insecure, be extra cautious and alert at these LINES UP. 
ESPECIALLY if the company is seriously fundamentally rotten, 
indebted and defaulted. 
2.  The credit bubble in the Wonderland far away there is still 
ACCUTE. A few people can really comprehend how the credit bubble has 
brought the Wonderland into a state of coma. The bad magic of credit 
bubble lies on its fractional-reserve system. With easy example of 
reserve ratio 9 : 1, the deposit of $10.000 will create loan money 
of $90.000 by commercial fin parties. The ratio can be made in 20 : 
1 or even 30 : 1. New dogma was then FALSELY created, MONEY = 
CREDIT, CREDIT = MONEY. The arrangement depends on the negotiation 
and charter's agreement. This has precipitated not only on 
individual level, but the vast majority on business and industrial 
sectors in the Wonderland (learn from Washington Mutual's case). Not 
only at banking, housing, financial, consumption and manufacturing 
sector, but prevalently at all sectors. This has triggered European 
countries urge back the world to return to Bretton Woods. To fix 
this avalanche, the Omama administration (the president of the 
Wonderland & his economic team) needs long time & process. 
3.  As my last posting was undeniably true, please now enjoy the 
moment of temporary up. This will consume sometime before the Lunar 
Eclipse (Quarter 2 - 3 of 2009). The Lunar Eclipse w

Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)

2008-11-30 Terurut Topik fifi young
The good SHOW
just began..
Watch closely guys

2008/12/1 JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>Retail jadi pada bingung & pusing, perlu minum obat dulu nih….., hehe
>
>
>
> tuh BUMI digebuk…, kalau yg lain ngikut…,  kesempatan bagus buat scalping….
>
>
>
> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Yanuar Mustofa
> *Sent:* 01 Desember 2008 11:19
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)
>
>
>
> Psycological War will be Begin Noww.
>
> hehehehhe
>
> who's the winner prediction?? EL or Ratu Sima...we'll see lahhh..
> for OB Follower like me its just ask Mr. jsx consultant to clarify...
>
> Mbahhhtulung ni...
> sesuai analisa mbah...kta ikutin sapa neh...EL or Ratu Sima..
>
> Thnks yaa mbahhh
>
>
>   
>


Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)

2008-11-30 Terurut Topik ruzli
Hm ..OBAT=KLXX



2008/12/1, JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>Retail jadi pada bingung & pusing, perlu minum obat dulu nih….., hehe
>
>
>
> tuh BUMI digebuk…, kalau yg lain ngikut…,  kesempatan bagus buat scalping….
>
>
>
> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Yanuar Mustofa
> *Sent:* 01 Desember 2008 11:19
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)
>
>
>
> Psycological War will be Begin Noww.
> hehehehhe
>
> who's the winner prediction?? EL or Ratu Sima...we'll see lahhh..
> for OB Follower like me its just ask Mr. jsx consultant to clarify...
>
> Mbahhhtulung ni...
> sesuai analisa mbah...kta ikutin sapa neh...EL or Ratu Sima..
>
> Thnks yaa mbahhh
>
>
>
> 
>


Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)

2008-11-30 Terurut Topik Rei
Wah seru nih, Ratu vs. panglima EL... battle of the fatal females!
Mantap...my money is on EL :)

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   *Blah. BUY more! The statement below was valid only if been stated a
> year ago. Next year, when DJI breaks above 11k, you won't be so sure anymore
> about your 'release'... ha ha ha... Market goes up and down, so volatile you
> would miss the TREND. Sure, the economy stumbles, but It won't fall. Smart
> people, those like Buffett and Soros, would see this as a rare good
> opportunity. I see it too, so I'll let you guys know. Hell, IDX shouldn't
> fall below 2k if there' was no BUMI around.
>
> Now I challenge you, IDX will be well above 1800 over the next 6 months,
> DJI above 11K, crude oil around $70 - $90.
>
> Elaine*
> *
> *
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Ratu Sima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>   Embah, let Aimee clarify…
>>
>> I am inspired to say this as I smell a major misapprehension. I need
>> to stay poised.
>> You can adopt it as the different version of the global market watch.
>> Let me exclaim it out loud. "THE MARKET IS STILL BEARISH".
>> Temporary positive correction will keep on quite sometime, though.
>> At the beginning of New Year 2009, rebalancing portfolio is STILL
>> indispensable.
>>
>> HOWEVER, the quandary that we will encounter next year is much
>> harder.
>>
>> Let me verify plainly as follows:
>>
>> 1. Oil price still remains volatile. Despite Iran's challenge
>> of its resistance power, Arab's King's recall of $75 and OPEC's
>> breathless effort to establish supply & demand equilibrium, the
>> sudden oil price increase is NOT likely to happen. This is due to
>> imperfect timing and momentum. In addition, the speculators who have
>> bubbled oil to $147 are still bearish-minded as well. How do they
>> work? Oil & commodities speculators exploit `buy & roll-over
>> strategy' in their trading tactic. It is also attributed to the
>> market failure factor. THIS confirms how oil had bubbled in a
>> stunningly way up to July 08. After successfully READING the
>> recession scenario and substantial demand's decline, they cashed
>> out, quit, and oil price crashed. Don't also forget that oil price
>> movement is in line with GDP and stock market's growth. Both Iran
>> and Arab have stubbornly-smart brain. Not only they produce oil
>> massively but they have also hoarded it in their expensively- rented
>> tankers. I giggled aloud when the President proclaimed that IRAN is
>> safe even if the oil price goes down to $5. Regrettably, oil is the
>> pilot for commodities, energy and agriculture sector. If oil price
>> is still insecure, be extra cautious and alert at these LINES UP.
>> ESPECIALLY if the company is seriously fundamentally rotten,
>> indebted and defaulted.
>> 2. The credit bubble in the Wonderland far away there is still
>> ACCUTE. A few people can really comprehend how the credit bubble has
>> brought the Wonderland into a state of coma. The bad magic of credit
>> bubble lies on its fractional-reserve system. With easy example of
>> reserve ratio 9 : 1, the deposit of $10.000 will create loan money
>> of $90.000 by commercial fin parties. The ratio can be made in 20 :
>> 1 or even 30 : 1. New dogma was then FALSELY created, MONEY =
>> CREDIT, CREDIT = MONEY. The arrangement depends on the negotiation
>> and charter's agreement. This has precipitated not only on
>> individual level, but the vast majority on business and industrial
>> sectors in the Wonderland (learn from Washington Mutual's case). Not
>> only at banking, housing, financial, consumption and manufacturing
>> sector, but prevalently at all sectors. This has triggered European
>> countries urge back the world to return to Bretton Woods. To fix
>> this avalanche, the Omama administration (the president of the
>> Wonderland & his economic team) needs long time & process.
>> 3. As my last posting was undeniably true, please now enjoy the
>> moment of temporary up. This will consume sometime before the Lunar
>> Eclipse (Quarter 2 - 3 of 2009). The Lunar Eclipse will be
>> signalized by the designation of THE 5th ELLIOT WOLVE'S MIDNIGHT
>> BARK (read: Elliot Wave 5) on the frontier which will bring the LORD
>> DOW with the hang rope .
>>
>> To conclude, this is my new single release: `Welcome Hang Rope 
>> 2009'.
>>
>> And with Indonesia:
>>
>> I do PRAY that the GOI could anticipate and handle the problem from
>> EXTERNAL FACTORS while decisively going on cleaning up its internal
>> problems. Please work round the clock and predict the unpredictable.
>> Credit & financial derivative problems in the Wonderland contains
>> invaluable lessons for our emerging market. We don't need to copy
>> their failure. The system has failed. Tightening credit granting and
>> monetary system, clean & strict due diligence, impartial law
>> enforcement, domestic economy enhancement as the backbone, and the
>> breeding of productivity as well as hard wo

Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)

2008-11-30 Terurut Topik PyRiEL PyRiEL
fiuhhh... full jualan today...
ntar sore icip2...
gimana raja copet mr JT?

2008/12/1 JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>Retail jadi pada bingung & pusing, perlu minum obat dulu nih….., hehe
>
>
>
> tuh BUMI digebuk…, kalau yg lain ngikut…,  kesempatan bagus buat scalping….
>
>
>
> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Yanuar Mustofa
> *Sent:* 01 Desember 2008 11:19
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)
>
>
>
> Psycological War will be Begin Noww.
>
> hehehehhe
>
> who's the winner prediction?? EL or Ratu Sima...we'll see lahhh..
> for OB Follower like me its just ask Mr. jsx consultant to clarify...
>
> Mbahhhtulung ni...
> sesuai analisa mbah...kta ikutin sapa neh...EL or Ratu Sima..
>
> Thnks yaa mbahhh
>
>
>   
>


RE: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)

2008-11-30 Terurut Topik rad10 ru54k
mmm.. Sapa yg bakal jadi pemenang niih??

My money's on Elaine!!! Hehehe.. Go Elaine!!

 

Sm;)e

 

 

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Elaine Sui
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 11:06 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)

 

Blah. BUY more! The statement below was valid only if been stated a year
ago. Next year, when DJI breaks above 11k, you won't be so sure anymore
about your 'release'... ha ha ha... Market goes up and down, so volatile you
would miss the TREND. Sure, the economy stumbles, but It won't fall. Smart
people, those like Buffett and Soros, would see this as a rare good
opportunity. I see it too, so I'll let you guys know. Hell, IDX shouldn't
fall below 2k if there' was no BUMI around.

Now I challenge you, IDX will be well above 1800 over the next 6 months, DJI
above 11K, crude oil around $70 - $90.

Elaine

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Ratu Sima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Embah, let Aimee clarify.

I am inspired to say this as I smell a major misapprehension. I need 
to stay poised.
You can adopt it as the different version of the global market watch.
Let me exclaim it out loud. "THE MARKET IS STILL BEARISH".
Temporary positive correction will keep on quite sometime, though.
At the beginning of New Year 2009, rebalancing portfolio is STILL 
indispensable.

HOWEVER, the quandary that we will encounter next year is much 
harder.

Let me verify plainly as follows:

1. Oil price still remains volatile. Despite Iran's challenge 
of its resistance power, Arab's King's recall of $75 and OPEC's 
breathless effort to establish supply & demand equilibrium, the 
sudden oil price increase is NOT likely to happen. This is due to 
imperfect timing and momentum. In addition, the speculators who have 
bubbled oil to $147 are still bearish-minded as well. How do they 
work? Oil & commodities speculators exploit `buy & roll-over 
strategy' in their trading tactic. It is also attributed to the 
market failure factor. THIS confirms how oil had bubbled in a 
stunningly way up to July 08. After successfully READING the 
recession scenario and substantial demand's decline, they cashed 
out, quit, and oil price crashed. Don't also forget that oil price 
movement is in line with GDP and stock market's growth. Both Iran 
and Arab have stubbornly-smart brain. Not only they produce oil 
massively but they have also hoarded it in their expensively- rented 
tankers. I giggled aloud when the President proclaimed that IRAN is 
safe even if the oil price goes down to $5. Regrettably, oil is the 
pilot for commodities, energy and agriculture sector. If oil price 
is still insecure, be extra cautious and alert at these LINES UP. 
ESPECIALLY if the company is seriously fundamentally rotten, 
indebted and defaulted. 
2. The credit bubble in the Wonderland far away there is still 
ACCUTE. A few people can really comprehend how the credit bubble has 
brought the Wonderland into a state of coma. The bad magic of credit 
bubble lies on its fractional-reserve system. With easy example of 
reserve ratio 9 : 1, the deposit of $10.000 will create loan money 
of $90.000 by commercial fin parties. The ratio can be made in 20 : 
1 or even 30 : 1. New dogma was then FALSELY created, MONEY = 
CREDIT, CREDIT = MONEY. The arrangement depends on the negotiation 
and charter's agreement. This has precipitated not only on 
individual level, but the vast majority on business and industrial 
sectors in the Wonderland (learn from Washington Mutual's case). Not 
only at banking, housing, financial, consumption and manufacturing 
sector, but prevalently at all sectors. This has triggered European 
countries urge back the world to return to Bretton Woods. To fix 
this avalanche, the Omama administration (the president of the 
Wonderland & his economic team) needs long time & process. 
3. As my last posting was undeniably true, please now enjoy the 
moment of temporary up. This will consume sometime before the Lunar 
Eclipse (Quarter 2 - 3 of 2009). The Lunar Eclipse will be 
signalized by the designation of THE 5th ELLIOT WOLVE'S MIDNIGHT 
BARK (read: Elliot Wave 5) on the frontier which will bring the LORD 
DOW with the hang rope . 

To conclude, this is my new single release: `Welcome Hang Rope  
2009'.

And with Indonesia:

I do PRAY that the GOI could anticipate and handle the problem from 
EXTERNAL FACTORS while decisively going on cleaning up its internal 
problems. Please work round the clock and predict the unpredictable. 
Credit & financial derivative problems in the Wonderland contains 
invaluable lessons for our emerging market. We don't need to copy 
their failure. The system has failed. Tightening credit granting and 
monetary system, clean & strict due dili

RE: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)

2008-11-30 Terurut Topik JsxTrader
Retail jadi pada bingung & pusing, perlu minum obat dulu nih….., hehe

 

tuh BUMI digebuk…, kalau yg lain ngikut…,  kesempatan bagus buat scalping….

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Yanuar Mustofa
Sent: 01 Desember 2008 11:19
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)

 

Psycological War will be Begin Noww.
hehehehhe

who's the winner prediction?? EL or Ratu Sima...we'll see lahhh..
for OB Follower like me its just ask Mr. jsx consultant to clarify...

Mbahhhtulung ni...
sesuai analisa mbah...kta ikutin sapa neh...EL or Ratu Sima..

Thnks yaa mbahhh

 



Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)

2008-11-30 Terurut Topik Yanuar Mustofa
Psycological War will be Begin Noww.
hehehehhe

who's the winner prediction?? EL or Ratu Sima...we'll see lahhh..
for OB Follower like me its just ask Mr. jsx consultant to clarify...

Mbahhhtulung ni...
sesuai analisa mbah...kta ikutin sapa neh...EL or Ratu Sima..

Thnks yaa mbahhh





From: Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 1 December 2008 11:06:06
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)


Blah. BUY more! The statement below was valid only if been stated a year ago. 
Next year, when DJI breaks above 11k, you won't be so sure anymore about your 
'release'... ha ha ha... Market goes up and down, so volatile you would miss 
the TREND. Sure, the economy stumbles, but It won't fall. Smart people, those 
like Buffett and Soros, would see this as a rare good opportunity. I see it 
too, so I'll let you guys know. Hell, IDX shouldn't fall below 2k if there' was 
no BUMI around.

Now I challenge you, IDX will be well above 1800 over the next 6 months, DJI 
above 11K, crude oil around $70 - $90.

Elaine


On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Ratu Sima <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:

Embah, let Aimee clarify…

I am inspired to say this as I smell a major misapprehension. I need 
to stay poised.
You can adopt it as the different version of the global market watch.
Let me exclaim it out loud. "THE MARKET IS STILL BEARISH".
Temporary positive correction will keep on quite sometime, though.
At the beginning of New Year 2009, rebalancing portfolio is STILL 
indispensable.

HOWEVER, the quandary that we will encounter next year is much 
harder.

Let me verify plainly as follows:

1.  Oil price still remains volatile. Despite Iran's challenge 
of its resistance power, Arab's King's recall of $75 and OPEC's 
breathless effort to establish supply & demand equilibrium, the 
sudden oil price increase is NOT likely to happen. This is due to 
imperfect timing and momentum. In addition, the speculators who have 
bubbled oil to $147 are still bearish-minded as well. How do they 
work? Oil & commodities speculators exploit `buy & roll-over 
strategy' in their trading tactic. It is also attributed to the 
market failure factor. THIS confirms how oil had bubbled in a 
stunningly way up to July 08. After successfully READING the 
recession scenario and substantial demand's decline, they cashed 
out, quit, and oil price crashed. Don't also forget that oil price 
movement is in line with GDP and stock market's growth. Both Iran 
and Arab have stubbornly-smart brain. Not only they produce oil 
massively but they have also hoarded it in their expensively- rented 
tankers. I giggled aloud when the President proclaimed that IRAN is 
safe even if the oil price goes down to $5. Regrettably, oil is the 
pilot for commodities, energy and agriculture sector. If oil price 
is still insecure, be extra cautious and alert at these LINES UP. 
ESPECIALLY if the company is seriously fundamentally rotten, 
indebted and defaulted. 
2.  The credit bubble in the Wonderland far away there is still 
ACCUTE. A few people can really comprehend how the credit bubble has 
brought the Wonderland into a state of coma. The bad magic of credit 
bubble lies on its fractional-reserve system. With easy example of 
reserve ratio 9 : 1, the deposit of $10.000 will create loan money 
of $90.000 by commercial fin parties. The ratio can be made in 20 : 
1 or even 30 : 1. New dogma was then FALSELY created, MONEY = 
CREDIT, CREDIT = MONEY. The arrangement depends on the negotiation 
and charter's agreement. This has precipitated not only on 
individual level, but the vast majority on business and industrial 
sectors in the Wonderland (learn from Washington Mutual's case). Not 
only at banking, housing, financial, consumption and manufacturing 
sector, but prevalently at all sectors. This has triggered European 
countries urge back the world to return to Bretton Woods. To fix 
this avalanche, the Omama administration (the president of the 
Wonderland & his economic team) needs long time & process. 
3.  As my last posting was undeniably true, please now enjoy the 
moment of temporary up. This will consume sometime before the Lunar 
Eclipse (Quarter 2 - 3 of 2009). The Lunar Eclipse will be 
signalized by the designation of THE 5th ELLIOT WOLVE'S MIDNIGHT 
BARK (read: Elliot Wave 5) on the frontier which will bring the LORD 
DOW with the hang rope . 

To conclude, this is my new single release: `Welcome Hang Rope  
2009'.

And with Indonesia:

I do PRAY that the GOI could anticipate and handle the problem from 
EXTERNAL FACTORS while decisively going on cleaning up its internal 
problems. Please work round the clock and predict the unpredictable. 
Credit & financial derivative problems

Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)

2008-11-30 Terurut Topik pram
Wha ... the battle between two princess

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   *Blah. BUY more! The statement below was valid only if been stated a
> year ago. Next year, when DJI breaks above 11k, you won't be so sure anymore
> about your 'release'... ha ha ha... Market goes up and down, so volatile you
> would miss the TREND. Sure, the economy stumbles, but It won't fall. Smart
> people, those like Buffett and Soros, would see this as a rare good
> opportunity. I see it too, so I'll let you guys know. Hell, IDX shouldn't
> fall below 2k if there' was no BUMI around.
>
> Now I challenge you, IDX will be well above 1800 over the next 6 months,
> DJI above 11K, crude oil around $70 - $90.
>
> Elaine*
> *
> *
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Ratu Sima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>   Embah, let Aimee clarify…
>>
>> I am inspired to say this as I smell a major misapprehension. I need
>> to stay poised.
>> You can adopt it as the different version of the global market watch.
>> Let me exclaim it out loud. "THE MARKET IS STILL BEARISH".
>> Temporary positive correction will keep on quite sometime, though.
>> At the beginning of New Year 2009, rebalancing portfolio is STILL
>> indispensable.
>>
>> HOWEVER, the quandary that we will encounter next year is much
>> harder.
>>
>> Let me verify plainly as follows:
>>
>> 1. Oil price still remains volatile. Despite Iran's challenge
>> of its resistance power, Arab's King's recall of $75 and OPEC's
>> breathless effort to establish supply & demand equilibrium, the
>> sudden oil price increase is NOT likely to happen. This is due to
>> imperfect timing and momentum. In addition, the speculators who have
>> bubbled oil to $147 are still bearish-minded as well. How do they
>> work? Oil & commodities speculators exploit `buy & roll-over
>> strategy' in their trading tactic. It is also attributed to the
>> market failure factor. THIS confirms how oil had bubbled in a
>> stunningly way up to July 08. After successfully READING the
>> recession scenario and substantial demand's decline, they cashed
>> out, quit, and oil price crashed. Don't also forget that oil price
>> movement is in line with GDP and stock market's growth. Both Iran
>> and Arab have stubbornly-smart brain. Not only they produce oil
>> massively but they have also hoarded it in their expensively- rented
>> tankers. I giggled aloud when the President proclaimed that IRAN is
>> safe even if the oil price goes down to $5. Regrettably, oil is the
>> pilot for commodities, energy and agriculture sector. If oil price
>> is still insecure, be extra cautious and alert at these LINES UP.
>> ESPECIALLY if the company is seriously fundamentally rotten,
>> indebted and defaulted.
>> 2. The credit bubble in the Wonderland far away there is still
>> ACCUTE. A few people can really comprehend how the credit bubble has
>> brought the Wonderland into a state of coma. The bad magic of credit
>> bubble lies on its fractional-reserve system. With easy example of
>> reserve ratio 9 : 1, the deposit of $10.000 will create loan money
>> of $90.000 by commercial fin parties. The ratio can be made in 20 :
>> 1 or even 30 : 1. New dogma was then FALSELY created, MONEY =
>> CREDIT, CREDIT = MONEY. The arrangement depends on the negotiation
>> and charter's agreement. This has precipitated not only on
>> individual level, but the vast majority on business and industrial
>> sectors in the Wonderland (learn from Washington Mutual's case). Not
>> only at banking, housing, financial, consumption and manufacturing
>> sector, but prevalently at all sectors. This has triggered European
>> countries urge back the world to return to Bretton Woods. To fix
>> this avalanche, the Omama administration (the president of the
>> Wonderland & his economic team) needs long time & process.
>> 3. As my last posting was undeniably true, please now enjoy the
>> moment of temporary up. This will consume sometime before the Lunar
>> Eclipse (Quarter 2 - 3 of 2009). The Lunar Eclipse will be
>> signalized by the designation of THE 5th ELLIOT WOLVE'S MIDNIGHT
>> BARK (read: Elliot Wave 5) on the frontier which will bring the LORD
>> DOW with the hang rope .
>>
>> To conclude, this is my new single release: `Welcome Hang Rope 
>> 2009'.
>>
>> And with Indonesia:
>>
>> I do PRAY that the GOI could anticipate and handle the problem from
>> EXTERNAL FACTORS while decisively going on cleaning up its internal
>> problems. Please work round the clock and predict the unpredictable.
>> Credit & financial derivative problems in the Wonderland contains
>> invaluable lessons for our emerging market. We don't need to copy
>> their failure. The system has failed. Tightening credit granting and
>> monetary system, clean & strict due diligence, impartial law
>> enforcement, domestic economy enhancement as the backbone, and the
>> breeding of productivity as well as hard working culture to the
>> people can help save 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)

2008-11-30 Terurut Topik Elaine Sui
*Blah. BUY more! The statement below was valid only if been stated a year
ago. Next year, when DJI breaks above 11k, you won't be so sure anymore
about your 'release'... ha ha ha... Market goes up and down, so volatile you
would miss the TREND. Sure, the economy stumbles, but It won't fall. Smart
people, those like Buffett and Soros, would see this as a rare good
opportunity. I see it too, so I'll let you guys know. Hell, IDX shouldn't
fall below 2k if there' was no BUMI around.

Now I challenge you, IDX will be well above 1800 over the next 6 months, DJI
above 11K, crude oil around $70 - $90.

Elaine**
*
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Ratu Sima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Embah, let Aimee clarify…
>
> I am inspired to say this as I smell a major misapprehension. I need
> to stay poised.
> You can adopt it as the different version of the global market watch.
> Let me exclaim it out loud. "THE MARKET IS STILL BEARISH".
> Temporary positive correction will keep on quite sometime, though.
> At the beginning of New Year 2009, rebalancing portfolio is STILL
> indispensable.
>
> HOWEVER, the quandary that we will encounter next year is much
> harder.
>
> Let me verify plainly as follows:
>
> 1. Oil price still remains volatile. Despite Iran's challenge
> of its resistance power, Arab's King's recall of $75 and OPEC's
> breathless effort to establish supply & demand equilibrium, the
> sudden oil price increase is NOT likely to happen. This is due to
> imperfect timing and momentum. In addition, the speculators who have
> bubbled oil to $147 are still bearish-minded as well. How do they
> work? Oil & commodities speculators exploit `buy & roll-over
> strategy' in their trading tactic. It is also attributed to the
> market failure factor. THIS confirms how oil had bubbled in a
> stunningly way up to July 08. After successfully READING the
> recession scenario and substantial demand's decline, they cashed
> out, quit, and oil price crashed. Don't also forget that oil price
> movement is in line with GDP and stock market's growth. Both Iran
> and Arab have stubbornly-smart brain. Not only they produce oil
> massively but they have also hoarded it in their expensively- rented
> tankers. I giggled aloud when the President proclaimed that IRAN is
> safe even if the oil price goes down to $5. Regrettably, oil is the
> pilot for commodities, energy and agriculture sector. If oil price
> is still insecure, be extra cautious and alert at these LINES UP.
> ESPECIALLY if the company is seriously fundamentally rotten,
> indebted and defaulted.
> 2. The credit bubble in the Wonderland far away there is still
> ACCUTE. A few people can really comprehend how the credit bubble has
> brought the Wonderland into a state of coma. The bad magic of credit
> bubble lies on its fractional-reserve system. With easy example of
> reserve ratio 9 : 1, the deposit of $10.000 will create loan money
> of $90.000 by commercial fin parties. The ratio can be made in 20 :
> 1 or even 30 : 1. New dogma was then FALSELY created, MONEY =
> CREDIT, CREDIT = MONEY. The arrangement depends on the negotiation
> and charter's agreement. This has precipitated not only on
> individual level, but the vast majority on business and industrial
> sectors in the Wonderland (learn from Washington Mutual's case). Not
> only at banking, housing, financial, consumption and manufacturing
> sector, but prevalently at all sectors. This has triggered European
> countries urge back the world to return to Bretton Woods. To fix
> this avalanche, the Omama administration (the president of the
> Wonderland & his economic team) needs long time & process.
> 3. As my last posting was undeniably true, please now enjoy the
> moment of temporary up. This will consume sometime before the Lunar
> Eclipse (Quarter 2 - 3 of 2009). The Lunar Eclipse will be
> signalized by the designation of THE 5th ELLIOT WOLVE'S MIDNIGHT
> BARK (read: Elliot Wave 5) on the frontier which will bring the LORD
> DOW with the hang rope .
>
> To conclude, this is my new single release: `Welcome Hang Rope 
> 2009'.
>
> And with Indonesia:
>
> I do PRAY that the GOI could anticipate and handle the problem from
> EXTERNAL FACTORS while decisively going on cleaning up its internal
> problems. Please work round the clock and predict the unpredictable.
> Credit & financial derivative problems in the Wonderland contains
> invaluable lessons for our emerging market. We don't need to copy
> their failure. The system has failed. Tightening credit granting and
> monetary system, clean & strict due diligence, impartial law
> enforcement, domestic economy enhancement as the backbone, and the
> breeding of productivity as well as hard working culture to the
> people can help save the next generation from similar case collapse.
>
> Aimee strongly recalls money market depositors TO AVOID mass
> withdrawal and rush in any manner and in any time next year to
> secure the republic from 98's nightmare again. PLEA

Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)

2008-11-30 Terurut Topik kepunton2000
and IDX the next?please?

--- On Mon, 12/1/08, Ratu Sima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Ratu Sima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] THE LUNAR ECLIPSE (TOTAL RECALL PART 3)
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 10:27 AM






Embah, let Aimee clarify…

I am inspired to say this as I smell a major misapprehension. I need 
to stay poised.
You can adopt it as the different version of the global market watch.
Let me exclaim it out loud. "THE MARKET IS STILL BEARISH".
Temporary positive correction will keep on quite sometime, though.
At the beginning of New Year 2009, rebalancing portfolio is STILL 
indispensable.

HOWEVER, the quandary that we will encounter next year is much 
harder.

Let me verify plainly as follows:

1. Oil price still remains volatile. Despite Iran's challenge 
of its resistance power, Arab's King's recall of $75 and OPEC's 
breathless effort to establish supply & demand equilibrium, the 
sudden oil price increase is NOT likely to happen. This is due to 
imperfect timing and momentum. In addition, the speculators who have 
bubbled oil to $147 are still bearish-minded as well. How do they 
work? Oil & commodities speculators exploit `buy & roll-over 
strategy' in their trading tactic. It is also attributed to the 
market failure factor. THIS confirms how oil had bubbled in a 
stunningly way up to July 08. After successfully READING the 
recession scenario and substantial demand's decline, they cashed 
out, quit, and oil price crashed. Don't also forget that oil price 
movement is in line with GDP and stock market's growth. Both Iran 
and Arab have stubbornly-smart brain. Not only they produce oil 
massively but they have also hoarded it in their expensively- rented 
tankers. I giggled aloud when the President proclaimed that IRAN is 
safe even if the oil price goes down to $5. Regrettably, oil is the 
pilot for commodities, energy and agriculture sector. If oil price 
is still insecure, be extra cautious and alert at these LINES UP. 
ESPECIALLY if the company is seriously fundamentally rotten, 
indebted and defaulted. 
2. The credit bubble in the Wonderland far away there is still 
ACCUTE. A few people can really comprehend how the credit bubble has 
brought the Wonderland into a state of coma. The bad magic of credit 
bubble lies on its fractional-reserve system. With easy example of 
reserve ratio 9 : 1, the deposit of $10.000 will create loan money 
of $90.000 by commercial fin parties. The ratio can be made in 20 : 
1 or even 30 : 1. New dogma was then FALSELY created, MONEY = 
CREDIT, CREDIT = MONEY. The arrangement depends on the negotiation 
and charter's agreement. This has precipitated not only on 
individual level, but the vast majority on business and industrial 
sectors in the Wonderland (learn from Washington Mutual's case). Not 
only at banking, housing, financial, consumption and manufacturing 
sector, but prevalently at all sectors. This has triggered European 
countries urge back the world to return to Bretton Woods. To fix 
this avalanche, the Omama administration (the president of the 
Wonderland & his economic team) needs long time & process. 
3. As my last posting was undeniably true, please now enjoy the 
moment of temporary up. This will consume sometime before the Lunar 
Eclipse (Quarter 2 - 3 of 2009). The Lunar Eclipse will be 
signalized by the designation of THE 5th ELLIOT WOLVE'S MIDNIGHT 
BARK (read: Elliot Wave 5) on the frontier which will bring the LORD 
DOW with the hang rope . 

To conclude, this is my new single release: `Welcome Hang Rope  
2009'.

And with Indonesia:

I do PRAY that the GOI could anticipate and handle the problem from 
EXTERNAL FACTORS while decisively going on cleaning up its internal 
problems. Please work round the clock and predict the unpredictable. 
Credit & financial derivative problems in the Wonderland contains 
invaluable lessons for our emerging market. We don't need to copy 
their failure. The system has failed. Tightening credit granting and 
monetary system, clean & strict due diligence, impartial law 
enforcement, domestic economy enhancement as the backbone, and the 
breeding of productivity as well as hard working culture to the 
people can help save the next generation from similar case collapse.

Aimee strongly recalls money market depositors TO AVOID mass 
withdrawal and rush in any manner and in any time next year to 
secure the republic from 98's nightmare again. PLEASE, WITH ALL DUE 
RESPECT.

They need to maintain reserve ratio and adequate capitalization to 
carry on the country's financial tough challenge ahead. At least the 
intellectual pretty minister and the calm governor have been really 
working hard on this.

And KPK, chase for more! I will contribute to deploy Kalingga's 
Special Unit Forces (KSUF) if you need some back up to restore the 
corruption in your republic.

And IDX…..

GBU, Indonesia. Amen.

RATU SIMA, 
THE UNITED KINGDOM OF KALINGGA, JAVA.