Re: [obrolan-bandar] MITI akan menjadi harga RP 500 , Siapa mau ikut ?

2008-04-02 Terurut Topik Arpand
harga saham segitu mau stock split? bwat apa pak? mohon pencerahannya. tq

On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:28 PM, BAGUS KARYADI KARYADI 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   miti akan stok split, 1 saham lama menjadi 10 saham baru, sekarang miti
 harga 100, masih banyak naiknya, siapa mau ikut. mumpung masih murah.

 *Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:



 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mar 13, 2008 8:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [junior_Trader] Silahkan nilai ANTM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 In my opinion the price is still high in relation to weakness of world Ni
 price and higher cash cost because of significant increase in oil price. The
 margin will be deteriorated and it has shown in Q4 PY. When FS issued for Q1
 2008 it will be worsen when we annualized the result and compare it with
 2007 FS. I expect annualized NP for 2008 not more than 50% of 2007 and the
 stock price will be cut half at the highest of 2007. Remember that the stock
 price is what we are expecting for the future and not what has happened in
 the past. Except of major development, expansion or corporate action the
 stock price will go nowhere but going down.

 Just my 2cents. CMIIW


  On 3/13/08, Soeratman Doerachman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Valuation Ratios
 Company(Antam) Industry Sector SP 500  P/E Ratio (TTM) 7.20
  30.61 14.56 17.51 P/E High - Last 5 Yrs. NM 68.72 36.15 32.65 P/E Low -
  Last 5 Yrs. NM 32.30 11.53 13.65   Beta 1.50 0.73 1.05 1.00   Price to
  Sales (TTM) 3.08 7.54 3.90 2.38 Price to Book (MRQ) 4.22 3.22 5.51 3.66 
  Price
  to Tangible Book (MRQ) 4.48 3.45 5.51 8.14 Price to Cash Flow (TTM) 6.59
  19.49 14.36 12.70 Price to Free Cash Flow (TTM) 8.74 38.95 16.06 27.38   %
  Owned Institutions NM 14.66 36.67 72.07 Dividends
 Company Industry Sector SP 500  Dividend Yield NM 0.94 2.42 2.61 
  Dividend
  Yield - 5 Year Avg. -- 0.58 2.12 1.81 Dividend 5 Year Growth Rate 28.24
  27.14 57.17 13.20   Payout Ratio (TTM) 12.10 5.78 28.41 29.21 Growth
  Rates
 Company Industry Sector SP 500  Sales (MRQ) vs Qtr. 1 Yr. Ago
  67.79 4.41 74.46 17.08 Sales (TTM) vs TTM 1 Yr. Ago 113.31 7.08 101.41
  15.74 Sales - 5 Yr. Growth Rate 47.65 15.50 30.35 15.05   EPS (MRQ) vs
  Qtr. 1 Yr. Ago 74.88 -47.51 225.17 16.15 EPS (TTM) vs TTM 1 Yr. Ago
  230.53 -29.68 356.20 12.49 EPS - 5 Yr. Growth Rate 96.01 3.52 91.16
  22.66   Capital Spending - 5 Yr. Growth Rate 23.55 45.16 33.21 11.29 
  Financial
  Strength
 Company Industry Sector SP 500  Quick Ratio (MRQ) 3.74 3.12 2.83
  1.14 Current Ratio (MRQ) 4.47 3.89 3.36 1.62 LT Debt to Equity (MRQ)
  0.08 0.28 0.13 0.58 Total Debt to Equity (MRQ) 0.11 0.30 0.20 0.76 Interest
  Coverage (TTM) NM -4.91 15.61 13.95 Profitability Ratios
 Company Industry Sector SP 500  Gross Margin (TTM) 60.07 45.32
  55.43 43.96 Gross Margin - 5 Yr. Avg. 51.79 47.64 41.10 44.13   EBITD
  Margin (TTM) 60.53 11.38 43.60 23.34 EBITD - 5 Yr. Avg. 51.16 29.69
  41.94 22.48   Operating Margin (TTM) 56.60 0.41 50.28 18.79 Operating
  Margin - 5 Yr. Avg. 45.75 15.48 34.64 19.16   Pre-Tax Margin (TTM) 60.81
  -1.76 51.41 17.44 Pre-Tax Margin - 5 Yr. Avg. 47.16 16.47 33.59 18.31   Net
  Profit Margin (TTM) 42.74 -5.21 35.54 12.71 Net Profit Margin - 5 Yr.
  Avg. 33.08 12.29 22.78 12.73   Effective Tax Rate (TTM) 29.71 23.19
  38.73 29.58 Effective Tax Rate - 5 Yr. Avg. 29.86 23.76 31.78 30.71 
  Management
  Effectiveness
 Company Industry Sector SP 500  Return On Assets (TTM) 53.10
  -2.64 43.35 8.80 Return On Assets - 5 Yr. Avg. 27.32 1.76 17.24 7.96   
  Return
  On Investment (TTM) 62.78 -2.91 51.79 12.64 Return On Investment - 5 Yr.
  Avg. 31.83 1.89 20.86 11.58   Return On Equity (TTM) 78.69 -8.93 58.55
  21.23 Return On Equity - 5 Yr. Avg. 51.11 0.19 26.90 19.54 Efficiency
 Company Industry Sector SP 500  Revenue/Employee (TTM)
  4,421,282,000 421,916 3,719,271,320 958,819 Net Income/Employee (TTM)
  1,889,588,000 300,859 1,755,636,345 118,041   Receivable Turnover (TTM)
  9.31 11.53 27.81 10.50 Inventory Turnover (TTM) 4.23 6.35 6.32 12.14 Asset
  Turnover (TTM) 1.24 0.30 1.21 0.98
 


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Re: [obrolan-bandar] MITI akan menjadi harga RP 500 , Siapa mau ikut ?

2008-04-02 Terurut Topik Kalong 78
Ha..ha..ha...Pak Bagus 2 hari ini bikin rumor mantap
1. Ptra seperti Bumi
2 Miti stock split..
Insyaf Pak..


2008/4/2, Arpand [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

   harga saham segitu mau stock split? bwat apa pak? mohon pencerahannya.
 tq

 On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:28 PM, BAGUS KARYADI KARYADI 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

miti akan stok split, 1 saham lama menjadi 10 saham baru, sekarang
  miti harga 100, masih banyak naiknya, siapa mau ikut. mumpung masih murah.
 
  *Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
 
 
 
  -- Forwarded message --
  From: Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Mar 13, 2008 8:53 AM
  Subject: Re: [junior_Trader] Silahkan nilai ANTM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  In my opinion the price is still high in relation to weakness of world
  Ni price and higher cash cost because of significant increase in oil price.
  The margin will be deteriorated and it has shown in Q4 PY. When FS issued
  for Q1 2008 it will be worsen when we annualized the result and compare it
  with 2007 FS. I expect annualized NP for 2008 not more than 50% of 2007 and
  the stock price will be cut half at the highest of 2007. Remember that the
  stock price is what we are expecting for the future and not what has
  happened in the past. Except of major development, expansion or corporate
  action the stock price will go nowhere but going down.
 
  Just my 2cents. CMIIW
 
 
   On 3/13/08, Soeratman Doerachman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Valuation Ratios
  Company(Antam) Industry Sector SP 500  P/E Ratio (TTM) 7.20
   30.61 14.56 17.51 P/E High - Last 5 Yrs. NM 68.72 36.15 32.65 P/E Low
   - Last 5 Yrs. NM 32.30 11.53 13.65   Beta 1.50 0.73 1.05 1.00   Price
   to Sales (TTM) 3.08 7.54 3.90 2.38 Price to Book (MRQ) 4.22 3.22 5.51
   3.66 Price to Tangible Book (MRQ) 4.48 3.45 5.51 8.14 Price to Cash
   Flow (TTM) 6.59 19.49 14.36 12.70 Price to Free Cash Flow (TTM) 8.74
   38.95 16.06 27.38   % Owned Institutions NM 14.66 36.67 72.07
   Dividends
  Company Industry Sector SP 500  Dividend Yield NM 0.94 2.42
   2.61 Dividend Yield - 5 Year Avg. -- 0.58 2.12 1.81 Dividend 5 Year
   Growth Rate 28.24 27.14 57.17 13.20   Payout Ratio (TTM) 12.10 5.78
   28.41 29.21 Growth Rates
  Company Industry Sector SP 500  Sales (MRQ) vs Qtr. 1 Yr. Ago
   67.79 4.41 74.46 17.08 Sales (TTM) vs TTM 1 Yr. Ago 113.31 7.08 101.41
   15.74 Sales - 5 Yr. Growth Rate 47.65 15.50 30.35 15.05   EPS (MRQ) vs
   Qtr. 1 Yr. Ago 74.88 -47.51 225.17 16.15 EPS (TTM) vs TTM 1 Yr. Ago
   230.53 -29.68 356.20 12.49 EPS - 5 Yr. Growth Rate 96.01 3.52 91.16
   22.66   Capital Spending - 5 Yr. Growth Rate 23.55 45.16 33.21 11.29 
   Financial
   Strength
  Company Industry Sector SP 500  Quick Ratio (MRQ) 3.74 3.12
   2.83 1.14 Current Ratio (MRQ) 4.47 3.89 3.36 1.62 LT Debt to Equity
   (MRQ) 0.08 0.28 0.13 0.58 Total Debt to Equity (MRQ) 0.11 0.30 0.20
   0.76 Interest Coverage (TTM) NM -4.91 15.61 13.95 Profitability Ratios
  Company Industry Sector SP 500  Gross Margin (TTM) 60.07 45.32
   55.43 43.96 Gross Margin - 5 Yr. Avg. 51.79 47.64 41.10 44.13   EBITD
   Margin (TTM) 60.53 11.38 43.60 23.34 EBITD - 5 Yr. Avg. 51.16 29.69
   41.94 22.48   Operating Margin (TTM) 56.60 0.41 50.28 18.79 Operating
   Margin - 5 Yr. Avg. 45.75 15.48 34.64 19.16   Pre-Tax Margin (TTM)
   60.81 -1.76 51.41 17.44 Pre-Tax Margin - 5 Yr. Avg. 47.16 16.47 33.59
   18.31   Net Profit Margin (TTM) 42.74 -5.21 35.54 12.71 Net Profit
   Margin - 5 Yr. Avg. 33.08 12.29 22.78 12.73   Effective Tax Rate (TTM)
   29.71 23.19 38.73 29.58 Effective Tax Rate - 5 Yr. Avg. 29.86 23.76
   31.78 30.71 Management Effectiveness
  Company Industry Sector SP 500  Return On Assets (TTM) 53.10
   -2.64 43.35 8.80 Return On Assets - 5 Yr. Avg. 27.32 1.76 17.24 7.96   
   Return
   On Investment (TTM) 62.78 -2.91 51.79 12.64 Return On Investment - 5
   Yr. Avg. 31.83 1.89 20.86 11.58   Return On Equity (TTM) 78.69 -8.93
   58.55 21.23 Return On Equity - 5 Yr. Avg. 51.11 0.19 26.90 19.54
   Efficiency
  Company Industry Sector SP 500  Revenue/Employee (TTM)
   4,421,282,000 421,916 3,719,271,320 958,819 Net Income/Employee (TTM)
   1,889,588,000 300,859 1,755,636,345 118,041   Receivable Turnover
   (TTM) 9.31 11.53 27.81 10.50 Inventory Turnover (TTM) 4.23 6.35 6.32
   12.14 Asset Turnover (TTM) 1.24 0.30 1.21 0.98
  
 
 
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Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] MITI akan menjadi harga RP 500 , Siapa mau ikut ?

2008-04-02 Terurut Topik BAGUS KARYADI KARYADI
yang pakai monitor rti harap lihat no 86. disitu sudah diumumkan, jadi bukan 
rumor.

Arpand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  harga saham segitu mau stock split? 
bwat apa pak? mohon pencerahannya. tq

  On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:28 PM, BAGUS KARYADI KARYADI [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
miti akan stok split, 1 saham lama menjadi 10 saham baru, sekarang 
miti harga 100, masih banyak naiknya, siapa mau ikut. mumpung masih murah.

Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  

-- Forwarded message --
From: Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mar 13, 2008 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [junior_Trader] Silahkan nilai ANTM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  In my opinion the price is still high in relation to weakness of world Ni 
price and higher cash cost because of significant increase in oil price. The 
margin will be deteriorated and it has shown in Q4 PY. When FS issued for Q1 
2008 it will be worsen when we annualized the result and compare it with 2007 
FS. I expect annualized NP for 2008 not more than 50% of 2007 and the stock 
price will be cut half at the highest of 2007. Remember that the stock price is 
what we are expecting for the future and not what has happened in the past. 
Except of major development, expansion or corporate action the stock price will 
go nowhere but going down.
   
  Just my 2cents. CMIIW

 
On 3/13/08, Soeratman Doerachman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   
Valuation Ratios
 Company(Antam)  Industry  Sector  SP 500  P/E 
Ratio (TTM)  7.20  30.61  14.56  17.51P/E High - Last 5 Yrs.  NM  68.72  
36.15  32.65P/E Low - Last 5 Yrs.  NM  32.30  11.53  13.65 Beta  
1.50  0.73  1.05  1.00 Price to Sales (TTM)  3.08  7.54  3.90  2.38
Price to Book (MRQ)  4.22  3.22  5.51  3.66Price to Tangible Book (MRQ)  
4.48  3.45  5.51  8.14Price to Cash Flow (TTM)  6.59  19.49  14.36  12.70   
 Price to Free Cash Flow (TTM)  8.74  38.95  16.06  27.38 % Owned 
Institutions  NM  14.66  36.67  72.07  Dividends
 Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  Dividend Yield 
 NM  0.94  2.42  2.61Dividend Yield - 5 Year Avg.  --  0.58  2.12  1.81
Dividend 5 Year Growth Rate  28.24  27.14  57.17  13.20 Payout Ratio 
(TTM)  12.10  5.78  28.41  29.21  Growth Rates
 Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  Sales (MRQ) vs 
Qtr. 1 Yr. Ago  67.79  4.41  74.46  17.08Sales (TTM) vs TTM 1 Yr. Ago  
113.31  7.08  101.41  15.74Sales - 5 Yr. Growth Rate  47.65  15.50  30.35  
15.05 EPS (MRQ) vs Qtr. 1 Yr. Ago  74.88  -47.51  225.17  16.15EPS 
(TTM) vs TTM 1 Yr. Ago  230.53  -29.68  356.20  12.49EPS - 5 Yr. Growth 
Rate  96.01  3.52  91.16  22.66 Capital Spending - 5 Yr. Growth Rate  
23.55  45.16  33.21  11.29  Financial Strength
 Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  Quick Ratio 
(MRQ)  3.74  3.12  2.83  1.14Current Ratio (MRQ)  4.47  3.89  3.36  1.62
LT Debt to Equity (MRQ)  0.08  0.28  0.13  0.58Total Debt to Equity (MRQ)  
0.11  0.30  0.20  0.76Interest Coverage (TTM)  NM  -4.91  15.61  13.95  
Profitability Ratios
 Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  Gross Margin 
(TTM)  60.07  45.32  55.43  43.96Gross Margin - 5 Yr. Avg.  51.79  47.64  
41.10  44.13 EBITD Margin (TTM)  60.53  11.38  43.60  23.34EBITD - 
5 Yr. Avg.  51.16  29.69  41.94  22.48 Operating Margin (TTM)  56.60  
0.41  50.28  18.79Operating Margin - 5 Yr. Avg.  45.75  15.48  34.64  19.16 
Pre-Tax Margin (TTM)  60.81  -1.76  51.41  17.44Pre-Tax Margin - 5 
Yr. Avg.  47.16  16.47  33.59  18.31 Net Profit Margin (TTM)  42.74  
-5.21  35.54  12.71Net Profit Margin - 5 Yr. Avg.  33.08  12.29  22.78  
12.73 Effective Tax Rate (TTM)  29.71  23.19  38.73  29.58Effective 
Tax Rate - 5 Yr. Avg.  29.86  23.76  31.78  30.71  Management Effectiveness
 Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  Return On 
Assets (TTM)  53.10  -2.64  43.35  8.80Return On Assets - 5 Yr. Avg.  27.32 
 1.76  17.24  7.96 Return On Investment (TTM)  62.78  -2.91  51.79  
12.64Return On Investment - 5 Yr. Avg.  31.83  1.89  20.86  11.58 
Return On Equity (TTM)  78.69  -8.93  58.55  21.23Return On Equity - 5 Yr. 
Avg.  51.11  0.19  26.90  19.54  Efficiency
 Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  
Revenue/Employee (TTM)  4,421,282,000  421,916  3,719,271,320  958,819Net 
Income/Employee (TTM)  1,889,588,000  300,859  1,755,636,345  118,041 
Receivable Turnover (TTM)  9.31  11.53  27.81  10.50Inventory Turnover 
(TTM)  4.23  6.35  6.32  12.14Asset Turnover (TTM)  1.24  0.30  1.21  0.98  
  
  








  



  
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] MITI akan menjadi harga RP 500 , Siapa mau ikut ?

2008-04-02 Terurut Topik wandi mrs
koreksi MITI
  bukan stock split,  tetapi saham seri A nominal 250 dalam portepel akan 
dirubah menjadi seri B nominal 25.
   
  

Arpand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  harga saham segitu mau stock split? bwat apa pak? mohon 
pencerahannya. tq

  On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:28 PM, BAGUS KARYADI KARYADI [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
miti akan stok split, 1 saham lama menjadi 10 saham baru, sekarang 
miti harga 100, masih banyak naiknya, siapa mau ikut. mumpung masih murah.

Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  

-- Forwarded message --
From: Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mar 13, 2008 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [junior_Trader] Silahkan nilai ANTM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  In my opinion the price is still high in relation to weakness of world Ni 
price and higher cash cost because of significant increase in oil price. The 
margin will be deteriorated and it has shown in Q4 PY. When FS issued for Q1 
2008 it will be worsen when we annualized the result and compare it with 2007 
FS. I expect annualized NP for 2008 not more than 50% of 2007 and the stock 
price will be cut half at the highest of 2007. Remember that the stock price is 
what we are expecting for the future and not what has happened in the past. 
Except of major development, expansion or corporate action the stock price will 
go nowhere but going down.
   
  Just my 2cents. CMIIW

 
On 3/13/08, Soeratman Doerachman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   
Valuation Ratios
 Company(Antam)  Industry  Sector  SP 500  P/E 
Ratio (TTM)  7.20  30.61  14.56  17.51P/E High - Last 5 Yrs.  NM  68.72  
36.15  32.65P/E Low - Last 5 Yrs.  NM  32.30  11.53  13.65 Beta  
1.50  0.73  1.05  1.00 Price to Sales (TTM)  3.08  7.54  3.90  2.38
Price to Book (MRQ)  4.22  3.22  5.51  3.66Price to Tangible Book (MRQ)  
4.48  3.45  5.51  8.14Price to Cash Flow (TTM)  6.59  19.49  14.36  12.70   
 Price to Free Cash Flow (TTM)  8.74  38.95  16.06  27.38 % Owned 
Institutions  NM  14.66  36.67  72.07  Dividends
 Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  Dividend Yield 
 NM  0.94  2.42  2.61Dividend Yield - 5 Year Avg.  --  0.58  2.12  1.81
Dividend 5 Year Growth Rate  28.24  27.14  57.17  13.20 Payout Ratio 
(TTM)  12.10  5.78  28.41  29.21  Growth Rates
 Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  Sales (MRQ) vs 
Qtr. 1 Yr. Ago  67.79  4.41  74.46  17.08Sales (TTM) vs TTM 1 Yr. Ago  
113.31  7.08  101.41  15.74Sales - 5 Yr. Growth Rate  47.65  15.50  30.35  
15.05 EPS (MRQ) vs Qtr. 1 Yr. Ago  74.88  -47.51  225.17  16.15EPS 
(TTM) vs TTM 1 Yr. Ago  230.53  -29.68  356.20  12.49EPS - 5 Yr. Growth 
Rate  96.01  3.52  91.16  22.66 Capital Spending - 5 Yr. Growth Rate  
23.55  45.16  33.21  11.29  Financial Strength
 Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  Quick Ratio 
(MRQ)  3.74  3.12  2.83  1.14Current Ratio (MRQ)  4.47  3.89  3.36  1.62
LT Debt to Equity (MRQ)  0.08  0.28  0.13  0.58Total Debt to Equity (MRQ)  
0.11  0.30  0.20  0.76Interest Coverage (TTM)  NM  -4.91  15.61  13.95  
Profitability Ratios
 Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  Gross Margin 
(TTM)  60.07  45.32  55.43  43.96Gross Margin - 5 Yr. Avg.  51.79  47.64  
41.10  44.13 EBITD Margin (TTM)  60.53  11.38  43.60  23.34EBITD - 
5 Yr. Avg.  51.16  29.69  41.94  22.48 Operating Margin (TTM)  56.60  
0.41  50.28  18.79Operating Margin - 5 Yr. Avg.  45.75  15.48  34.64  19.16 
Pre-Tax Margin (TTM)  60.81  -1.76  51.41  17.44Pre-Tax Margin - 5 
Yr. Avg.  47.16  16.47  33.59  18.31 Net Profit Margin (TTM)  42.74  
-5.21  35.54  12.71Net Profit Margin - 5 Yr. Avg.  33.08  12.29  22.78  
12.73 Effective Tax Rate (TTM)  29.71  23.19  38.73  29.58Effective 
Tax Rate - 5 Yr. Avg.  29.86  23.76  31.78  30.71  Management Effectiveness
 Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  Return On 
Assets (TTM)  53.10  -2.64  43.35  8.80Return On Assets - 5 Yr. Avg.  27.32 
 1.76  17.24  7.96 Return On Investment (TTM)  62.78  -2.91  51.79  
12.64Return On Investment - 5 Yr. Avg.  31.83  1.89  20.86  11.58 
Return On Equity (TTM)  78.69  -8.93  58.55  21.23Return On Equity - 5 Yr. 
Avg.  51.11  0.19  26.90  19.54  Efficiency
 Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  
Revenue/Employee (TTM)  4,421,282,000  421,916  3,719,271,320  958,819Net 
Income/Employee (TTM)  1,889,588,000  300,859  1,755,636,345  118,041 
Receivable Turnover (TTM)  9.31  11.53  27.81  10.50Inventory Turnover 
(TTM)  4.23  6.35  6.32  12.14Asset Turnover (TTM)  1.24  0.30  1.21  0.98  
  
  








  



  
  
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Re: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] MITI akan menjadi harga RP 500 , Siapa mau ikut ?

2008-04-02 Terurut Topik David Chandra
ga jelas.. promo gorengan.. zzz.. 100 jadi 500.. naek 400%??
pls WAKE UP..

On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 4:04 PM, BAGUS KARYADI KARYADI 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   yang pakai monitor rti harap lihat no 86. disitu sudah diumumkan, jadi
 bukan rumor.

 *Arpand [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

  harga saham segitu mau stock split? bwat apa pak? mohon pencerahannya. tq

 On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:28 PM, BAGUS KARYADI KARYADI 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

miti akan stok split, 1 saham lama menjadi 10 saham baru, sekarang
  miti harga 100, masih banyak naiknya, siapa mau ikut. mumpung masih murah.
 
  *Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
 
 
 
  -- Forwarded message --
  From: Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Mar 13, 2008 8:53 AM
  Subject: Re: [junior_Trader] Silahkan nilai ANTM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  In my opinion the price is still high in relation to weakness of world
  Ni price and higher cash cost because of significant increase in oil price.
  The margin will be deteriorated and it has shown in Q4 PY. When FS issued
  for Q1 2008 it will be worsen when we annualized the result and compare it
  with 2007 FS. I expect annualized NP for 2008 not more than 50% of 2007 and
  the stock price will be cut half at the highest of 2007. Remember that the
  stock price is what we are expecting for the future and not what has
  happened in the past. Except of major development, expansion or corporate
  action the stock price will go nowhere but going down.
 
  Just my 2cents. CMIIW
 
 
   On 3/13/08, Soeratman Doerachman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Valuation Ratios
  Company(Antam) Industry Sector SP 500  P/E Ratio (TTM) 7.20
   30.61 14.56 17.51 P/E High - Last 5 Yrs. NM 68.72 36.15 32.65 P/E Low
   - Last 5 Yrs. NM 32.30 11.53 13.65   Beta 1.50 0.73 1.05 1.00   Price
   to Sales (TTM) 3.08 7.54 3.90 2.38 Price to Book (MRQ) 4.22 3.22 5.51
   3.66 Price to Tangible Book (MRQ) 4.48 3.45 5.51 8.14 Price to Cash
   Flow (TTM) 6.59 19.49 14.36 12.70 Price to Free Cash Flow (TTM) 8.74
   38.95 16.06 27.38   % Owned Institutions NM 14.66 36.67 72.07
   Dividends
  Company Industry Sector SP 500  Dividend Yield NM 0.94 2.42
   2.61 Dividend Yield - 5 Year Avg. -- 0.58 2.12 1.81 Dividend 5 Year
   Growth Rate 28.24 27.14 57.17 13.20   Payout Ratio (TTM) 12.10 5.78
   28.41 29.21 Growth Rates
  Company Industry Sector SP 500  Sales (MRQ) vs Qtr. 1 Yr. Ago
   67.79 4.41 74.46 17.08 Sales (TTM) vs TTM 1 Yr. Ago 113.31 7.08 101.41
   15.74 Sales - 5 Yr. Growth Rate 47.65 15.50 30.35 15.05   EPS (MRQ) vs
   Qtr. 1 Yr. Ago 74.88 -47.51 225.17 16.15 EPS (TTM) vs TTM 1 Yr. Ago
   230.53 -29.68 356.20 12.49 EPS - 5 Yr. Growth Rate 96.01 3.52 91.16
   22.66   Capital Spending - 5 Yr. Growth Rate 23.55 45.16 33.21 11.29 
   Financial
   Strength
  Company Industry Sector SP 500  Quick Ratio (MRQ) 3.74 3.12
   2.83 1.14 Current Ratio (MRQ) 4.47 3.89 3.36 1.62 LT Debt to Equity
   (MRQ) 0.08 0.28 0.13 0.58 Total Debt to Equity (MRQ) 0.11 0.30 0.20
   0.76 Interest Coverage (TTM) NM -4.91 15.61 13.95 Profitability Ratios
  Company Industry Sector SP 500  Gross Margin (TTM) 60.07 45.32
   55.43 43.96 Gross Margin - 5 Yr. Avg. 51.79 47.64 41.10 44.13   EBITD
   Margin (TTM) 60.53 11.38 43.60 23.34 EBITD - 5 Yr. Avg. 51.16 29.69
   41.94 22.48   Operating Margin (TTM) 56.60 0.41 50.28 18.79 Operating
   Margin - 5 Yr. Avg. 45.75 15.48 34.64 19.16   Pre-Tax Margin (TTM)
   60.81 -1.76 51.41 17.44 Pre-Tax Margin - 5 Yr. Avg. 47.16 16.47 33.59
   18.31   Net Profit Margin (TTM) 42.74 -5.21 35.54 12.71 Net Profit
   Margin - 5 Yr. Avg. 33.08 12.29 22.78 12.73   Effective Tax Rate (TTM)
   29.71 23.19 38.73 29.58 Effective Tax Rate - 5 Yr. Avg. 29.86 23.76
   31.78 30.71 Management Effectiveness
  Company Industry Sector SP 500  Return On Assets (TTM) 53.10
   -2.64 43.35 8.80 Return On Assets - 5 Yr. Avg. 27.32 1.76 17.24 7.96   
   Return
   On Investment (TTM) 62.78 -2.91 51.79 12.64 Return On Investment - 5
   Yr. Avg. 31.83 1.89 20.86 11.58   Return On Equity (TTM) 78.69 -8.93
   58.55 21.23 Return On Equity - 5 Yr. Avg. 51.11 0.19 26.90 19.54
   Efficiency
  Company Industry Sector SP 500  Revenue/Employee (TTM)
   4,421,282,000 421,916 3,719,271,320 958,819 Net Income/Employee (TTM)
   1,889,588,000 300,859 1,755,636,345 118,041   Receivable Turnover
   (TTM) 9.31 11.53 27.81 10.50 Inventory Turnover (TTM) 4.23 6.35 6.32
   12.14 Asset Turnover (TTM) 1.24 0.30 1.21 0.98
  
 
 
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Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] MITI akan menjadi harga RP 500 , Siapa mau ikut ?

2008-04-02 Terurut Topik BAGUS KARYADI KARYADI
pak, yang saya omongkan berdasarkan pengalaman empiris, saya sudah pengalaman 
15 tahun dibursa. jadi bukan tidak ada dasarnya. kalau pingin kaya perhatikan 
omongan saya.

Kalong 78 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Ha..ha..ha...Pak Bagus 2 hari 
ini bikin rumor mantap
  1. Ptra seperti Bumi
  2 Miti stock split..
  Insyaf Pak..

 
  2008/4/2, Arpand [EMAIL PROTECTED]: harga saham segitu mau 
stock split? bwat apa pak? mohon pencerahannya. tq   

  On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:28 PM, BAGUS KARYADI KARYADI [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
miti akan stok split, 1 saham lama menjadi 10 saham baru, sekarang 
miti harga 100, masih banyak naiknya, siapa mau ikut. mumpung masih murah.

Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  

-- Forwarded message --
From: Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mar 13, 2008 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [junior_Trader] Silahkan nilai ANTM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  In my opinion the price is still high in relation to weakness of world Ni 
price and higher cash cost because of significant increase in oil price. The 
margin will be deteriorated and it has shown in Q4 PY. When FS issued for Q1 
2008 it will be worsen when we annualized the result and compare it with 2007 
FS. I expect annualized NP for 2008 not more than 50% of 2007 and the stock 
price will be cut half at the highest of 2007. Remember that the stock price is 
what we are expecting for the future and not what has happened in the past. 
Except of major development, expansion or corporate action the stock price will 
go nowhere but going down.
   
  Just my 2cents. CMIIW

 
On 3/13/08, Soeratman Doerachman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   
Valuation Ratios
 Company(Antam)  Industry  Sector  SP 500  P/E 
Ratio (TTM)  7.20  30.61  14.56  17.51P/E High - Last 5 Yrs.  NM  68.72  
36.15  32.65P/E Low - Last 5 Yrs.  NM  32.30  11.53  13.65 Beta  
1.50  0.73  1.05  1.00 Price to Sales (TTM)  3.08  7.54  3.90  2.38
Price to Book (MRQ)  4.22  3.22  5.51  3.66Price to Tangible Book (MRQ)  
4.48  3.45  5.51  8.14Price to Cash Flow (TTM)  6.59  19.49  14.36  12.70   
 Price to Free Cash Flow (TTM)  8.74  38.95  16.06  27.38 % Owned 
Institutions  NM  14.66  36.67  72.07  Dividends
 Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  Dividend Yield 
 NM  0.94  2.42  2.61Dividend Yield - 5 Year Avg.  --  0.58  2.12  1.81
Dividend 5 Year Growth Rate  28.24  27.14  57.17  13.20 Payout Ratio 
(TTM)  12.10  5.78  28.41  29.21  Growth Rates
 Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  Sales (MRQ) vs 
Qtr. 1 Yr. Ago  67.79  4.41  74.46  17.08Sales (TTM) vs TTM 1 Yr. Ago  
113.31  7.08  101.41  15.74Sales - 5 Yr. Growth Rate  47.65  15.50  30.35  
15.05 EPS (MRQ) vs Qtr. 1 Yr. Ago  74.88  -47.51  225.17  16.15EPS 
(TTM) vs TTM 1 Yr. Ago  230.53  -29.68  356.20  12.49EPS - 5 Yr. Growth 
Rate  96.01  3.52  91.16  22.66 Capital Spending - 5 Yr. Growth Rate  
23.55  45.16  33.21  11.29  Financial Strength
 Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  Quick Ratio 
(MRQ)  3.74  3.12  2.83  1.14Current Ratio (MRQ)  4.47  3.89  3.36  1.62
LT Debt to Equity (MRQ)  0.08  0.28  0.13  0.58Total Debt to Equity (MRQ)  
0.11  0.30  0.20  0.76Interest Coverage (TTM)  NM  -4.91  15.61  13.95  
Profitability Ratios
 Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  Gross Margin 
(TTM)  60.07  45.32  55.43  43.96Gross Margin - 5 Yr. Avg.  51.79  47.64  
41.10  44.13 EBITD Margin (TTM)  60.53  11.38  43.60  23.34EBITD - 
5 Yr. Avg.  51.16  29.69  41.94  22.48 Operating Margin (TTM)  56.60  
0.41  50.28  18.79Operating Margin - 5 Yr. Avg.  45.75  15.48  34.64  19.16 
Pre-Tax Margin (TTM)  60.81  -1.76  51.41  17.44Pre-Tax Margin - 5 
Yr. Avg.  47.16  16.47  33.59  18.31 Net Profit Margin (TTM)  42.74  
-5.21  35.54  12.71Net Profit Margin - 5 Yr. Avg.  33.08  12.29  22.78  
12.73 Effective Tax Rate (TTM)  29.71  23.19  38.73  29.58Effective 
Tax Rate - 5 Yr. Avg.  29.86  23.76  31.78  30.71  Management Effectiveness
 Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  Return On 
Assets (TTM)  53.10  -2.64  43.35  8.80Return On Assets - 5 Yr. Avg.  27.32 
 1.76  17.24  7.96 Return On Investment (TTM)  62.78  -2.91  51.79  
12.64Return On Investment - 5 Yr. Avg.  31.83  1.89  20.86  11.58 
Return On Equity (TTM)  78.69  -8.93  58.55  21.23Return On Equity - 5 Yr. 
Avg.  51.11  0.19  26.90  19.54  Efficiency
 Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  
Revenue/Employee (TTM)  4,421,282,000  421,916  3,719,271,320  958,819Net 
Income/Employee (TTM)  1,889,588,000  300,859  1,755,636,345  118,041 
Receivable Turnover (TTM)  9.31  11.53  27.81  10.50Inventory Turnover 
(TTM)  4.23  6.35  6.32  12.14

Re: [obrolan-bandar] MITI akan menjadi harga RP 500 , Siapa mau ikut ?

2008-04-02 Terurut Topik hendriey prabowo
Boleh jga PTRA sampek spt BUMI tapi ada satu syarat yg harus dipenuhi PTRA klo 
udah sahamnya udah refers stock stoc baruuu..spt POLY
  maksudnya.baru uangnya yang ada di BUMI dipindahin ke PTRA...
  ingat awas jebakan manusia yg punya harga PTRA diatas
  Sorrry ya!!

Kalong 78 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ha..ha..ha...Pak Bagus 2 hari ini bikin rumor mantap
  1. Ptra seperti Bumi
  2 Miti stock split..
  Insyaf Pak..

 
  2008/4/2, Arpand [EMAIL PROTECTED]: harga saham segitu mau 
stock split? bwat apa pak? mohon pencerahannya. tq   

  On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:28 PM, BAGUS KARYADI KARYADI [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
miti akan stok split, 1 saham lama menjadi 10 saham baru, sekarang 
miti harga 100, masih banyak naiknya, siapa mau ikut. mumpung masih murah.

Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  

-- Forwarded message --
From: Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mar 13, 2008 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [junior_Trader] Silahkan nilai ANTM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  In my opinion the price is still high in relation to weakness of world Ni 
price and higher cash cost because of significant increase in oil price. The 
margin will be deteriorated and it has shown in Q4 PY. When FS issued for Q1 
2008 it will be worsen when we annualized the result and compare it with 2007 
FS. I expect annualized NP for 2008 not more than 50% of 2007 and the stock 
price will be cut half at the highest of 2007. Remember that the stock price is 
what we are expecting for the future and not what has happened in the past. 
Except of major development, expansion or corporate action the stock price will 
go nowhere but going down.
   
  Just my 2cents. CMIIW

 
On 3/13/08, Soeratman Doerachman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   
Valuation Ratios
 Company(Antam)  Industry  Sector  SP 500  P/E 
Ratio (TTM)  7.20  30.61  14.56  17.51P/E High - Last 5 Yrs.  NM  68.72  
36.15  32.65P/E Low - Last 5 Yrs.  NM  32.30  11.53  13.65 Beta  
1.50  0.73  1.05  1.00 Price to Sales (TTM)  3.08  7.54  3.90  2.38
Price to Book (MRQ)  4.22  3.22  5.51  3.66Price to Tangible Book (MRQ)  
4.48  3.45  5.51  8.14Price to Cash Flow (TTM)  6.59  19.49  14.36  12.70   
 Price to Free Cash Flow (TTM)  8.74  38.95  16.06  27.38 % Owned 
Institutions  NM  14.66  36.67  72.07  Dividends
 Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  Dividend Yield 
 NM  0.94  2.42  2.61Dividend Yield - 5 Year Avg.  --  0.58  2.12  1.81
Dividend 5 Year Growth Rate  28.24  27.14  57.17  13.20 Payout Ratio 
(TTM)  12.10  5.78  28.41  29.21  Growth Rates
 Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  Sales (MRQ) vs 
Qtr. 1 Yr. Ago  67.79  4.41  74.46  17.08Sales (TTM) vs TTM 1 Yr. Ago  
113.31  7.08  101.41  15.74Sales - 5 Yr. Growth Rate  47.65  15.50  30.35  
15.05 EPS (MRQ) vs Qtr. 1 Yr. Ago  74.88  -47.51  225.17  16.15EPS 
(TTM) vs TTM 1 Yr. Ago  230.53  -29.68  356.20  12.49EPS - 5 Yr. Growth 
Rate  96.01  3.52  91.16  22.66 Capital Spending - 5 Yr. Growth Rate  
23.55  45.16  33.21  11.29  Financial Strength
 Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  Quick Ratio 
(MRQ)  3.74  3.12  2.83  1.14Current Ratio (MRQ)  4.47  3.89  3.36  1.62
LT Debt to Equity (MRQ)  0.08  0.28  0.13  0.58Total Debt to Equity (MRQ)  
0.11  0.30  0.20  0.76Interest Coverage (TTM)  NM  -4.91  15.61  13.95  
Profitability Ratios
 Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  Gross Margin 
(TTM)  60.07  45.32  55.43  43.96Gross Margin - 5 Yr. Avg.  51.79  47.64  
41.10  44.13 EBITD Margin (TTM)  60.53  11.38  43.60  23.34EBITD - 
5 Yr. Avg.  51.16  29.69  41.94  22.48 Operating Margin (TTM)  56.60  
0.41  50.28  18.79Operating Margin - 5 Yr. Avg.  45.75  15.48  34.64  19.16 
Pre-Tax Margin (TTM)  60.81  -1.76  51.41  17.44Pre-Tax Margin - 5 
Yr. Avg.  47.16  16.47  33.59  18.31 Net Profit Margin (TTM)  42.74  
-5.21  35.54  12.71Net Profit Margin - 5 Yr. Avg.  33.08  12.29  22.78  
12.73 Effective Tax Rate (TTM)  29.71  23.19  38.73  29.58Effective 
Tax Rate - 5 Yr. Avg.  29.86  23.76  31.78  30.71  Management Effectiveness
 Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  Return On 
Assets (TTM)  53.10  -2.64  43.35  8.80Return On Assets - 5 Yr. Avg.  27.32 
 1.76  17.24  7.96 Return On Investment (TTM)  62.78  -2.91  51.79  
12.64Return On Investment - 5 Yr. Avg.  31.83  1.89  20.86  11.58 
Return On Equity (TTM)  78.69  -8.93  58.55  21.23Return On Equity - 5 Yr. 
Avg.  51.11  0.19  26.90  19.54  Efficiency
 Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  
Revenue/Employee (TTM)  4,421,282,000  421,916  3,719,271,320  958,819Net 
Income/Employee (TTM)  1,889,588,000  300,859  1,755,636,345  118,041 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] MITI akan menjadi harga RP 500 , Siapa mau ikut ?

2008-04-02 Terurut Topik Huan Sheng
masih teringat dulu ada yg bilang POLY akan ke 200, saat itu POLY masih belum 
reverse stock dan harganya masih di kisaran 100 - 120.

Dan sekarang ? POLY memang ke harga 200 an, tapi dengan cara reverse stock 1:20 
ke harga 1000, lalu turun dan turun dan turun lagi ke kisaran 210 - 230. 
(Target harga 200 tercapai bukan ?)

Mungkin ada benarnya PTRA juga akan ke 6000 an seperti BUMI, tapi dengan cara 
mirip POLY kali ya ? reverse stock 1 : 100, kebetulan saat ini PTRA tinggal Rp 
61





  - Original Message - 
  From: hendriey prabowo 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 4:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] MITI akan menjadi harga RP 500 , Siapa mau ikut 
?



  Boleh jga PTRA sampek spt BUMI tapi ada satu syarat yg harus dipenuhi PTRA 
klo udah sahamnya udah refers stock stoc baruuu..spt POLY
  maksudnya.baru uangnya yang ada di BUMI dipindahin ke PTRA...
  ingat awas jebakan manusia yg punya harga PTRA diatas
  Sorrry ya!!

  Kalong 78 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ha..ha..ha...Pak Bagus 2 hari ini bikin rumor mantap
1. Ptra seperti Bumi
2 Miti stock split..
Insyaf Pak..

 
2008/4/2, Arpand [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
  harga saham segitu mau stock split? bwat apa pak? mohon pencerahannya. tq 



  On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:28 PM, BAGUS KARYADI KARYADI [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

miti akan stok split, 1 saham lama menjadi 10 saham baru, sekarang miti 
harga 100, masih banyak naiknya, siapa mau ikut. mumpung masih murah.

Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 


  -- Forwarded message --
  From: Bettina Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Mar 13, 2008 8:53 AM
  Subject: Re: [junior_Trader] Silahkan nilai ANTM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


  In my opinion the price is still high in relation to weakness of 
world Ni price and higher cash cost because of significant increase in oil 
price. The margin will be deteriorated and it has shown in Q4 PY. When FS 
issued for Q1 2008 it will be worsen when we annualized the result and compare 
it with 2007 FS. I expect annualized NP for 2008 not more than 50% of 2007 and 
the stock price will be cut half at the highest of 2007. Remember that the 
stock price is what we are expecting for the future and not what has happened 
in the past. Except of major development, expansion or corporate action the 
stock price will go nowhere but going down.

  Just my 2cents. CMIIW

   
  On 3/13/08, Soeratman Doerachman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Valuation Ratios
Company(Antam) Industry Sector SP 500 
  P/E Ratio (TTM) 7.20 30.61 14.56 17.51 
  P/E High - Last 5 Yrs. NM 68.72 36.15 32.65 
  P/E Low - Last 5 Yrs. NM 32.30 11.53 13.65 

  Beta 1.50 0.73 1.05 1.00 

  Price to Sales (TTM) 3.08 7.54 3.90 2.38 
  Price to Book (MRQ) 4.22 3.22 5.51 3.66 
  Price to Tangible Book (MRQ) 4.48 3.45 5.51 8.14 
  Price to Cash Flow (TTM) 6.59 19.49 14.36 12.70 
  Price to Free Cash Flow (TTM) 8.74 38.95 16.06 27.38 

  % Owned Institutions NM 14.66 36.67 72.07 

Dividends
Company Industry Sector SP 500 
  Dividend Yield NM 0.94 2.42 2.61 
  Dividend Yield - 5 Year Avg. -- 0.58 2.12 1.81 
  Dividend 5 Year Growth Rate 28.24 27.14 57.17 13.20 

  Payout Ratio (TTM) 12.10 5.78 28.41 29.21 

Growth Rates
Company Industry Sector SP 500 
  Sales (MRQ) vs Qtr. 1 Yr. Ago 67.79 4.41 74.46 17.08 
  Sales (TTM) vs TTM 1 Yr. Ago 113.31 7.08 101.41 15.74 
  Sales - 5 Yr. Growth Rate 47.65 15.50 30.35 15.05 

  EPS (MRQ) vs Qtr. 1 Yr. Ago 74.88 -47.51 225.17 16.15 
  EPS (TTM) vs TTM 1 Yr. Ago 230.53 -29.68 356.20 12.49 
  EPS - 5 Yr. Growth Rate 96.01 3.52 91.16 22.66 

  Capital Spending - 5 Yr. Growth Rate 23.55 45.16 33.21 11.29 

Financial Strength
Company Industry Sector SP 500 
  Quick Ratio (MRQ) 3.74 3.12 2.83 1.14 
  Current Ratio (MRQ) 4.47 3.89 3.36 1.62 
  LT Debt to Equity (MRQ) 0.08 0.28 0.13 0.58 
  Total Debt to Equity (MRQ) 0.11 0.30 0.20 0.76 
  Interest Coverage (TTM) NM -4.91 15.61 13.95 

Profitability Ratios
Company Industry Sector SP 500 
  Gross Margin (TTM) 60.07 45.32 55.43 43.96 
  Gross Margin - 5 Yr. Avg. 51.79 47.64 41.10 44.13 

  EBITD Margin

Bls: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] MITI akan menjadi harga RP 500 , Siapa mau ikut ?

2008-04-02 Terurut Topik Lkm Jkt
Pak Bagus.  sudah 15 th  dibursa.

saya ada saham   kode  FISK . 
Bapak tau  nama perusahaan  tsb diatas.
Mau nge test

Lukman.


- Pesan Asli 
Dari: BAGUS KARYADI KARYADI [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Rabu, 2 April, 2008 16:08:35
Topik: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] MITI akan menjadi harga RP 500 , Siapa mau 
ikut ?

pak, yang saya omongkan berdasarkan pengalaman empiris, saya 
sudah pengalaman 15 tahun dibursa. jadi bukan tidak ada dasarnya. kalau pingin 
kaya perhatikan omongan saya.

Kalong 78 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:  
  Ha..ha..ha.. .Pak Bagus 2 hari ini bikin rumor mantap
  1. Ptra seperti Bumi
  2 Miti stock split..
  Insyaf Pak..

 
  2008/4/2, Arpand [EMAIL PROTECTED] com: harga saham segitu mau 
stock split? bwat apa pak? mohon pencerahannya. tq   

  On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:28 PM, BAGUS KARYADI KARYADI bagus_karyadi@ 
yahoo.co. id wrote:
miti akan stok split, 1 saham lama menjadi 10 saham baru, sekarang 
miti harga 100, masih banyak naiknya, siapa mau ikut. mumpung masih murah.

Bettina Tan bettina.tan@ gmail.com wrote: 
  

-- Forwarded message --
From: Bettina Tan bettina.tan@ gmail.com
Date: Mar 13, 2008 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [junior_Trader] Silahkan nilai ANTM
To: junior_Trader@ yahoogroups. com

  In my opinion the price is still high in relation to weakness of world Ni 
price and higher cash cost because of significant increase in oil price. The 
margin will be deteriorated and it has shown in Q4 PY. When FS issued for Q1 
2008 it will be worsen when we annualized the result and compare it with 2007 
FS. I expect annualized NP for 2008 not more than 50% of 2007 and the stock 
price will be cut half at the highest of 2007. Remember that the stock price is 
what we are expecting for the future and not what has happened in the past. 
Except of major development, expansion or corporate
 action the stock price will go nowhere but going down.
   
  Just my 2cents. CMIIW

 
On 3/13/08, Soeratman Doerachman [EMAIL PROTECTED] id wrote:  
 Valuation Ratios
 Company(Antam)  Industry  Sector  SP 500  P/E 
Ratio (TTM)  7.20  30.61  14.56  17.51P/E High - Last 5 Yrs.  NM  68.72  
36.15  32.65P/E Low - Last 5 Yrs.  NM  32.30  11.53  13.65 Beta  
1.50  0.73  1.05  1.00 Price to Sales (TTM)  3.08  7.54  3.90  2.38
Price to Book (MRQ)  4.22  3.22  5.51  3.66Price to Tangible Book (MRQ)  
4.48  3.45  5.51  8..14Price to Cash Flow (TTM)  6.59  19.49  14.36  12.70  
  Price to Free Cash Flow (TTM)  8.74  38.95  16.06  27.38 % Owned 
Institutions  NM  14.66  36.67  72.07  Dividends
 Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  Dividend Yield 
 NM  0.94  2.42  2.61Dividend Yield - 5 Year Avg.  --  0.58  2.12  1.81
Dividend 5 Year Growth Rate  28.24  27.14  57.17  13.20 Payout Ratio 
(TTM)  12.10  5.78  28.41  29.21  Growth Rates
 Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  Sales (MRQ) vs 
Qtr. 1 Yr. Ago  67.79  4.41  74.46  17.08Sales (TTM) vs TTM 1 Yr. Ago  
113.31  7.08  101.41  15.74Sales - 5 Yr. Growth Rate  47.65  15.50  30.35  
15.05 EPS (MRQ) vs Qtr. 1 Yr. Ago  74..88  -47.51  225.17  16.15EPS 
(TTM) vs TTM 1 Yr. Ago  230.53  -29.68  356.20  12.49EPS - 5 Yr. Growth 
Rate  96.01  3.52  91.16  22.66 Capital Spending - 5 Yr. Growth Rate  
23.55  45.16  33.21  11.29  Financial Strength
 Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  Quick Ratio 
(MRQ)  3.74  3.12  2.83  1.14Current Ratio (MRQ)  4.47  3..89  3.36  1.62   
 LT Debt to Equity (MRQ)  0.08  0.28  0.13  0.58Total Debt to Equity (MRQ)  
0.11  0.30  0.20  0.76Interest Coverage (TTM)  NM  -4.91  15.61  13.95  
Profitability Ratios
 Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  Gross Margin 
(TTM)  60.07  45.32  55.43  43.96Gross Margin - 5 Yr. Avg.  51.79  47.64  
41.10  44.13 EBITD Margin (TTM)  60.53  11.38  43.60  23.34EBITD - 
5 Yr. Avg.  51.16  29.69  41.94  22.48 Operating Margin (TTM)  56.60  
0.41  50.28  18..79Operating Margin - 5 Yr. Avg.  45.75  15.48  34.64  
19.16 Pre-Tax Margin (TTM)  60.81  -1.76  51.41  17.44Pre-Tax 
Margin - 5 Yr. Avg.  47.16  16.47  33.59  18.31 Net Profit Margin (TTM) 
 42.74  -5.21  35.54  12.71Net Profit Margin - 5 Yr. Avg.  33.08  12.29  
22.78  12.73 Effective
 Tax Rate (TTM)  29.71  23.19  38.73  29.58Effective Tax Rate - 5 Yr. Avg.  
29.86  23.76  31.78  30.71  Management Effectiveness
 Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  Return On 
Assets (TTM)  53.10  -2.64  43.35  8.80Return On Assets - 5 Yr. Avg.  27.32 
 1.76  17.24  7.96 Return On Investment (TTM)  62.78  -2.91  51.79  
12.64Return On Investment - 5 Yr. Avg.  31.83  1.89  20.86  11.58 
Return On Equity (TTM)  78.69

Bls: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] MITI akan menjadi harga RP 500 , Siapa mau ikut ?

2008-04-02 Terurut Topik john ramos butarbutar
Kalau nggak salah nama perusahaannya fiskarapa gitu loh... ( 
lupa saya ) dan usahanya adalah Garam ( cuma ngeringin air laut jadi 
garam )
Sekarang sahamnya banyak beredar dimana-mana terutama di rumah gedek 
yang kumuh...buat nembel dinding yg bolonghe..he..he

sorry lancang menjawab


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Lkm Jkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pak Bagus.  sudah 15 th  dibursa.
 
 saya ada saham   kode  FISK . 
 Bapak tau  nama perusahaan  tsb diatas.
 Mau nge test
 
 Lukman.
 
 
 - Pesan Asli 
 Dari: BAGUS KARYADI KARYADI [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Terkirim: Rabu, 2 April, 2008 16:08:35
 Topik: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] MITI akan menjadi harga RP 
500 , Siapa mau ikut ?
 
 pak, yang saya omongkan berdasarkan pengalaman 
empiris, saya sudah pengalaman 15 tahun dibursa. jadi bukan tidak 
ada dasarnya. kalau pingin kaya perhatikan omongan saya.
 
 Kalong 78 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:  
   Ha..ha..ha.. .Pak Bagus 2 hari ini bikin rumor mantap
   1. Ptra seperti Bumi
   2 Miti stock split..
   Insyaf Pak..
 
  
   2008/4/2, Arpand [EMAIL PROTECTED] com: harga saham 
segitu mau stock split? bwat apa pak? mohon pencerahannya. tq   
 
   On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:28 PM, BAGUS KARYADI KARYADI 
bagus_karyadi@ yahoo.co. id wrote:
 miti akan stok split, 1 saham lama menjadi 10 saham 
baru, sekarang miti harga 100, masih banyak naiknya, siapa mau ikut. 
mumpung masih murah.
 
 Bettina Tan bettina.tan@ gmail.com wrote: 
   
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Bettina Tan bettina.tan@ gmail.com
 Date: Mar 13, 2008 8:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [junior_Trader] Silahkan nilai ANTM
 To: junior_Trader@ yahoogroups. com
 
   In my opinion the price is still high in relation to weakness of 
world Ni price and higher cash cost because of significant increase 
in oil price. The margin will be deteriorated and it has shown in Q4 
PY. When FS issued for Q1 2008 it will be worsen when we annualized 
the result and compare it with 2007 FS. I expect annualized NP for 
2008 not more than 50% of 2007 and the stock price will be cut half 
at the highest of 2007. Remember that the stock price is what we are 
expecting for the future and not what has happened in the past. 
Except of major development, expansion or corporate
  action the stock price will go nowhere but going down.

   Just my 2cents. CMIIW
 
  
 On 3/13/08, Soeratman Doerachman [EMAIL PROTECTED] id 
wrote:   Valuation Ratios
  Company(Antam)  Industry  Sector  SP 
500  P/E Ratio (TTM)  7.20  30.61  14.56  17.51P/E High - 
Last 5 Yrs.  NM  68.72  36.15  32.65P/E Low - Last 5 Yrs.  NM  
32.30  11.53  13.65 Beta  1.50  0.73  1.05  1.00 
Price to Sales (TTM)  3.08  7.54  3.90  2.38Price to Book (MRQ)  
4.22  3.22  5.51  3.66Price to Tangible Book (MRQ)  4.48  3.45  
5.51  8..14Price to Cash Flow (TTM)  6.59  19.49  14.36  
12.70Price to Free Cash Flow (TTM)  8.74  38.95  16.06  
27.38 % Owned Institutions  NM  14.66  36.67  72.07  
Dividends
  Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  
Dividend Yield  NM  0.94  2.42  2.61Dividend Yield - 5 Year 
Avg.  --  0.58  2.12  1.81Dividend 5 Year Growth Rate  28.24  
27.14  57.17  13.20 Payout Ratio (TTM)  12.10  5.78  28.41  
29.21  Growth Rates
  Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  
Sales (MRQ) vs Qtr. 1 Yr. Ago  67.79  4.41  74.46  17.08Sales 
(TTM) vs TTM 1 Yr. Ago  113.31  7.08  101.41  15.74Sales - 5 Yr. 
Growth Rate  47.65  15.50  30.35  15.05 EPS (MRQ) vs Qtr. 1 
Yr. Ago  74..88  -47.51  225.17  16.15EPS (TTM) vs TTM 1 Yr. 
Ago  230.53  -29.68  356.20  12.49EPS - 5 Yr. Growth Rate  
96.01  3.52  91.16  22.66 Capital Spending - 5 Yr. Growth 
Rate  23.55  45.16  33.21  11.29  Financial Strength
  Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  
Quick Ratio (MRQ)  3.74  3.12  2.83  1.14Current Ratio (MRQ)  
4.47  3..89  3.36  1.62LT Debt to Equity (MRQ)  0.08  0.28  
0.13  0.58Total Debt to Equity (MRQ)  0.11  0.30  0.20  0.76
Interest Coverage (TTM)  NM  -4.91  15.61  13.95  Profitability 
Ratios
  Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  
Gross Margin (TTM)  60.07  45.32  55.43  43.96Gross Margin - 5 
Yr. Avg.  51.79  47.64  41.10  44.13 EBITD Margin (TTM)  
60.53  11.38  43.60  23.34EBITD - 5 Yr. Avg.  51.16  29.69  
41.94  22.48 Operating Margin (TTM)  56.60  0.41  50.28  
18..79Operating Margin - 5 Yr. Avg.  45.75  15.48  34.64  
19.16 Pre-Tax Margin (TTM)  60.81  -1.76  51.41  17.44
Pre-Tax Margin - 5 Yr. Avg.  47.16  16.47  33.59  18.31 Net 
Profit Margin (TTM)  42.74  -5.21  35.54  12.71Net Profit 
Margin - 5 Yr. Avg.  33.08  12.29  22.78  12.73 Effective
  Tax Rate (TTM)  29.71  23.19  38.73  29.58

Re: Bls: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] MITI akan menjadi harga RP 500 , Siapa mau ikut ?

2008-04-02 Terurut Topik momot Momot
Fisk= fiskar agung ...
  bener ga pak ???
   
  karena saya bisa jawab, berarti saya boleh bilang kalo saya udah maen saham 
sejak 15 th yg lalu donk Pak Lkm...:DJ/K
   
  maaf lancangbecnda bentar boleh ya pak...dari pada pusing liat 
ihsg...sambil nunggu komando Mbah..(maaf ya Mbah)
   
  salam
  yangbarumasukBEI6bulanlalutruskejedotLSIP
  Mm

Lkm Jkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Pak Bagus.  sudah 15 th  dibursa.

saya ada saham   kode  FISK . 
Bapak tau  nama perusahaan  tsb diatas.
Mau nge test

Lukman.


  - Pesan Asli 
Dari: BAGUS KARYADI KARYADI [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Rabu, 2 April, 2008 16:08:35
Topik: Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] MITI akan menjadi harga RP 500 , Siapa mau 
ikut ?

pak, yang saya omongkan berdasarkan pengalaman empiris, saya sudah 
pengalaman 15 tahun dibursa. jadi bukan tidak ada dasarnya. kalau pingin kaya 
perhatikan omongan saya.

Kalong 78 [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: 
Ha..ha..ha.. .Pak Bagus 2 hari ini bikin rumor mantap
  1. Ptra seperti Bumi
  2 Miti stock split..
  Insyaf Pak..

 
  2008/4/2, Arpand [EMAIL PROTECTED] com: harga saham segitu mau 
stock split? bwat apa pak? mohon pencerahannya. tq   

  On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:28 PM, BAGUS KARYADI KARYADI bagus_karyadi@ 
yahoo.co. id wrote:
miti akan stok split, 1 saham lama menjadi 10 saham baru, sekarang 
miti harga 100, masih banyak naiknya, siapa mau ikut. mumpung masih murah.

Bettina Tan bettina.tan@ gmail.com wrote: 
  

-- Forwarded message --
From: Bettina Tan bettina.tan@ gmail.com
Date: Mar 13, 2008 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [junior_Trader] Silahkan nilai ANTM
To: junior_Trader@ yahoogroups. com

  In my opinion the price is still high in relation to weakness of world Ni 
price and higher cash cost because of significant increase in oil price. The 
margin will be deteriorated and it has shown in Q4 PY. When FS issued for Q1 
2008 it will be worsen when we annualized the result and compare it with 2007 
FS. I expect annualized NP for 2008 not more than 50% of 2007 and the stock 
price will be cut half at the highest of 2007. Remember that the stock price is 
what we are expecting for the future and not what has happened in the past. 
Except of major development, expansion or corporate action the stock price will 
go nowhere but going down.
   
  Just my 2cents. CMIIW

 
On 3/13/08, Soeratman Doerachman [EMAIL PROTECTED] id wrote:  
 Valuation Ratios
 Company(Antam)  Industry  Sector  SP 500  P/E 
Ratio (TTM)  7.20  30.61  14.56  17..51P/E High - Last 5 Yrs.  NM  68.72  
36.15  32.65P/E Low - Last 5 Yrs.  NM  32..30  11.53  13.65 Beta  
1.50  0.73  1.05  1.00 Price to Sales (TTM)  3.08  7.54  3.90  2.38
Price to Book (MRQ)  4.22  3.22  5.51  3.66Price to Tangible Book (MRQ)  
4.48  3.45  5.51  8.14Price to Cash Flow (TTM)  6.59  19.49  14.36  12.70   
 Price to Free Cash Flow (TTM)  8.74  38.95  16.06  27.38 % Owned 
Institutions  NM  14.66  36.67  72.07  Dividends
 Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  Dividend Yield 
 NM  0.94  2.42  2.61Dividend Yield - 5 Year Avg.  --  0..58  2.12  1.81
Dividend 5 Year Growth Rate  28.24  27.14  57.17  13.20 Payout Ratio 
(TTM)  12.10  5.78  28.41  29.21  Growth Rates
 Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  Sales (MRQ) vs 
Qtr. 1 Yr. Ago  67.79  4.41  74.46  17.08Sales (TTM) vs TTM 1 Yr. Ago  
113.31  7.08  101.41  15.74Sales - 5 Yr. Growth Rate  47.65  15.50  30.35  
15.05 EPS (MRQ) vs Qtr. 1 Yr. Ago  74.88  -47.51  225.17  16.15EPS 
(TTM) vs TTM 1 Yr. Ago  230.53  -29.68  356.20  12.49EPS - 5 Yr. Growth 
Rate  96.01  3.52  91.16  22.66 Capital Spending - 5 Yr. Growth Rate  
23.55  45.16  33.21  11.29  Financial Strength
 Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  Quick Ratio 
(MRQ)  3..74  3.12  2.83  1.14Current Ratio (MRQ)  4.47  3.89  3.36  1.62   
 LT Debt to Equity (MRQ)  0.08  0.28  0.13  0.58Total Debt to Equity (MRQ)  
0.11  0.30  0.20  0.76Interest Coverage (TTM)  NM  -4.91  15.61  13.95  
Profitability Ratios
 Company  Industry  Sector  SP 500  Gross Margin 
(TTM)  60.07  45.32  55.43  43.96Gross Margin - 5 Yr. Avg.  51..79  47.64  
41.10  44.13 EBITD Margin (TTM)  60.53  11.38  43.60  23.34EBITD - 
5 Yr. Avg.  51.16  29.69  41.94  22.48 Operating Margin (TTM)  56.60  
0.41  50.28  18.79Operating Margin - 5 Yr. Avg.  45.75  15.48  34.64  19.16 
Pre-Tax Margin (TTM)  60.81  -1.76  51.41  17.44Pre-Tax Margin - 5 
Yr. Avg.  47.16  16.47  33.59  18.31 Net Profit Margin (TTM)  42.74  
-5.21  35.54  12.71Net Profit Margin - 5 Yr. Avg.  33.08  12.29  22.78  
12.73 Effective Tax Rate (TTM)  29.71  23.19  38.73  29.58Effective 
Tax Rate - 5 Yr

Balasan: Re: [obrolan-bandar] MITI akan menjadi harga RP 500 , Siapa mau ikut ?

2008-04-02 Terurut Topik boyz
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, BAGUS KARYADI KARYADI
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 pak, yang saya omongkan berdasarkan pengalaman empiris, saya sudah
pengalaman 15 tahun dibursa. jadi bukan tidak ada dasarnya. kalau pingin
kaya perhatikan omongan saya.



hehehe... sabar pak Bagus Karyadi...
Memang kadang-2 rekan di milis suka agak usil pertanyaannya.
Ya harap dimaklumi dan dimaafkan.
Tapi kan baiknya ditanggapi dengan adem, simpatik dan mencerahkan.

Maaf lho pak, ini bukan mengajari cara sharing.
Tapi katanya, bahasa menunjukkan cerminan pribadi seseorang.

oh, iya pak. Saya ada pertanyaan,
Setelah 15 tahun di Bursa, sekarang sudah ada di urutan ke berapa dari
daftar orang terkaya di indonesia?
Saya pingin lho jadi orang kaya seperti bapak, makanya saya akan
perhatikan omongan bapak.

salam,