Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MyLRI RE: DJIA Update
Yup..berita di bloomberg juga seperti itu lowest bet (open position) on oil already at 15 years low Dengan kata lain volume divergence. Tapi bukan berarti gak bisa naik lho cuman mungkin peak oil akan tercapai tahun ini. Lalu soal pendapat bursa akan bullish kalau oil turun. Saya sih tidak sependapat. Kalau komoditas turun...bursa cuman teknikal rebound kemudian melanjutkan bearishnya. Just sharing On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 4:43 PM, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak, volume crude oil di chart saya cenderung turun terus.., terjadi divergence negative dgn harga..., data dari reuters code [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent from my BlackBerry(R) wireless device from XL GPRS network --
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MyLRI RE: DJIA Update
*Oil price is mainly driven by two kind of news, Fundamental and incidental. Fundamental issues are like Oil Reserve, production, USD valuation, off shore drilling plan (still banned by the US senate). The others are incidental issues like Prez X says war against America, Y militant rebels attack oil wells, tanker Z has delayed transportation because of storm, etc I see most of the news about oil recently are incidental, which is fundamentally weak, in other words, can be reversed easily (with another incidental good news). The other thing is USD is well maintained since April against Euro and Yen. I know, in the long run crude oil is still bullish but not at this pace. US economy is currently still weak so I guess the only reason why it's still lingering above $140 is only because of SPECULATION. And you know who did this. Yeah, those banks who get smacked down by credit crunch. Just my 2 cents, so no disclaimer.. lol.. Elaine** * 2008/6/30 JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]: DOW jatuh karena harga minyak naik.., jadi kalau minyak turun harusnya DOW rebound.., begitu kah? sebab SEPINTAS saya melihat ada tanda-tanda minyak akan koreksi (pls see attachment). Meskipun MACD baru saja goldencross Candle membentuk pola bullish engulfing dua bar sebelumnya, tapi saya juga melihat ada divergence negative antara price dgn macd volume..., mudah2an tarikan garis saya cukup obyektif dan tdk dipengaruhi oleh harapan saya... he.he Any Comment? Pak Tasrul, Pak Alfatih, and Others. Salam, JsxTrader - Original Message From: Tasrul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:43:08 Subject: MyLRI RE: DJIA Update DOW 27 Juni 06 tutup di 11,346.51,ada peluang untuk reversal (lihat target MACD…kemungkinan pertama di 11,346.21).. jika tidak mampu reversal maka target berikut di 10,758.75 Juga terlampir DJIA untuk posisi akhir (27 Juni 08) Tasrul PT. Overseas Securities Research Analyst Plaza Bapindo Mandiri Tower Lt.16 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jl. Jend.Sudirman Kav.54-55 Jakarta – 12190, Indonesia Phone 62.21.5277008 Fax62.21.5277009 DISCLAIMER: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the named addressee(s) is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. PT. Overseas Securities accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. From: Tasrul Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 11:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com'; ' [EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: DJIA Update Dear All, Peluang penurunan DJIA meskipun terlihat masih ada namun peluang penurunannya makin kecil. Support terdekat di 11,346.26 dan jika ini tembus berpeluang ke 10,758.75, Semua indikator kecuali MACD Optimasi (yakni W%R Optimasi dan MFI Optimasi ) telah berada di Oversold Area. Semoga membantu… Tasrul PT. Overseas Securities Research Analyst Plaza Bapindo Mandiri Tower Lt.16 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jl. Jend.Sudirman Kav.54-55 Jakarta – 12190, Indonesia Phone 62.21.5277008 Fax62.21.5277009 DISCLAIMER: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the named addressee(s) is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. PT. Overseas Securities accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MyLRI RE: DJIA Update
Oil will hit USD 150 soon. DOW will go lower from the current level. I expect 11000. Weak global financial markets and USD triggered global commodity inflation as BIG FM moved their fund from financial markets. Only once all subprime mortgage losses are fully identified and written off. DOW will start recovery. It will happen on 4Q this year or early next year along with the new US president election as it will reduce uncertainties. 6 months to go... get rest and relax my dear El... From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elaine Sui Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 6:14 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MyLRI RE: DJIA Update Oil price is mainly driven by two kind of news, Fundamental and incidental. Fundamental issues are like Oil Reserve, production, USD valuation, off shore drilling plan (still banned by the US senate). The others are incidental issues like Prez X says war against America, Y militant rebels attack oil wells, tanker Z has delayed transportation because of storm, etc I see most of the news about oil recently are incidental, which is fundamentally weak, in other words, can be reversed easily (with another incidental good news). The other thing is USD is well maintained since April against Euro and Yen. I know, in the long run crude oil is still bullish but not at this pace. US economy is currently still weak so I guess the only reason why it's still lingering above $140 is only because of SPECULATION. And you know who did this. Yeah, those banks who get smacked down by credit crunch. Just my 2 cents, so no disclaimer.. lol.. Elaine 2008/6/30 JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : DOW jatuh karena harga minyak naik.., jadi kalau minyak turun harusnya DOW rebound.., begitu kah? sebab SEPINTAS saya melihat ada tanda-tanda minyak akan koreksi (pls see attachment). Meskipun MACD baru saja goldencross Candle membentuk pola bullish engulfing dua bar sebelumnya, tapi saya juga melihat ada divergence negative antara price dgn macd volume..., mudah2an tarikan garis saya cukup obyektif dan tdk dipengaruhi oleh harapan saya... he.he Any Comment? Pak Tasrul, Pak Alfatih, and Others. Salam, JsxTrader - Original Message From: Tasrul [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:43:08 Subject: MyLRI RE: DJIA Update DOW 27 Juni 06 tutup di 11,346.51,ada peluang untuk reversal (lihat target MACD...kemungkinan pertama di 11,346.21).. jika tidak mampu reversal maka target berikut di 10,758.75 Juga terlampir DJIA untuk posisi akhir (27 Juni 08) Tasrul PT. Overseas Securities Research Analyst Plaza Bapindo Mandiri Tower Lt.16 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jl. Jend.Sudirman Kav.54-55 Jakarta - 12190, Indonesia Phone 62.21.5277008 Fax62.21.5277009 DISCLAIMER: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the named addressee(s) is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. PT. Overseas Securities accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. From: Tasrul Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 11:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] '; [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 'obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com '; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ' Subject: DJIA Update Dear All, Peluang penurunan DJIA meskipun terlihat masih ada namun peluang penurunannya makin kecil. Support terdekat di 11,346.26 dan jika ini tembus berpeluang ke 10,758.75, Semua indikator kecuali MACD Optimasi (yakni W%R Optimasi dan MFI Optimasi ) telah berada di Oversold Area. Semoga membantu... Tasrul PT. Overseas Securities Research Analyst Plaza Bapindo Mandiri Tower Lt.16 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jl. Jend.Sudirman Kav.54-55 Jakarta - 12190, Indonesia Phone 62.21.5277008 Fax62.21.5277009
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MyLRI RE: DJIA Update
If I am not wrong, oil-price (naturally) is lower before summer and going-up again before fall, in line with seasonal demand. It is a seesaw cycle (like Indonesian inflation). Speculations, geopolitics etc are factors affecting that natural cycle. Should we worry if the trend is breaking such as cycle then? Just my 2 worries :) --- On Mon, 6/30/08, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MyLRI RE: DJIA Update To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 11:14 AM Oil price is mainly driven by two kind of news, Fundamental and incidental. Fundamental issues are like Oil Reserve, production, USD valuation, off shore drilling plan (still banned by the US senate). The others are incidental issues like Prez X says war against America, Y militant rebels attack oil wells, tanker Z has delayed transportation because of storm, etc I see most of the news about oil recently are incidental, which is fundamentally weak, in other words, can be reversed easily (with another incidental good news). The other thing is USD is well maintained since April against Euro and Yen. I know, in the long run crude oil is still bullish but not at this pace. US economy is currently still weak so I guess the only reason why it's still lingering above $140 is only because of SPECULATION. And you know who did this. Yeah, those banks who get smacked down by credit crunch. Just my 2 cents, so no disclaimer.. lol.. Elaine 2008/6/30 JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]: DOW jatuh karena harga minyak naik.., jadi kalau minyak turun harusnya DOW rebound.., begitu kah? sebab SEPINTAS saya melihat ada tanda-tanda minyak akan koreksi (pls see attachment). Meskipun MACD baru saja goldencross Candle membentuk pola bullish engulfing dua bar sebelumnya, tapi saya juga melihat ada divergence negative antara price dgn macd volume..., mudah2an tarikan garis saya cukup obyektif dan tdk dipengaruhi oleh harapan saya... he.he Any Comment? Pak Tasrul, Pak Alfatih, and Others. Salam, JsxTrader - Original Message From: Tasrul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:43:08 Subject: MyLRI RE: DJIA Update DOW 27 Juni 06 tutup di 11,346.51,ada peluang untuk reversal (lihat target MACD…kemungkinan pertama di 11,346.21).. jika tidak mampu reversal maka target berikut di 10,758.75 Juga terlampir DJIA untuk posisi akhir (27 Juni 08) Tasrul PT. Overseas Securities Research Analyst Plaza Bapindo Mandiri Tower Lt.16 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jl. Jend.Sudirman Kav.54-55 Jakarta – 12190, Indonesia Phone 62.21.5277008 Fax 62.21.5277009 DISCLAIMER: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the named addressee(s) is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. PT. Overseas Securities accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. From: Tasrul Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 11:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: DJIA Update Dear All, Peluang penurunan DJIA meskipun terlihat masih ada namun peluang penurunannya makin kecil. Support terdekat di 11,346.26 dan jika ini tembus berpeluang ke 10,758.75, Semua indikator kecuali MACD Optimasi (yakni W%R Optimasi dan MFI Optimasi ) telah berada di Oversold Area. Semoga membantu
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MyLRI RE: DJIA Update
For sure - OIL Prices is one kind of fin instruments like other products (CPOs, Nickel, Gold, etc) - it's not depend only on productions, buying pressures as happens in real sectors - I mean that it's so different to analyzings with S D in classical economics term... My point of view that sentiments plays much for OIL like other fin instruments + prices could be raisings more, more in order to find, achieve its target itself - eventhough S D all of the two together is raisen too in parallel movements Happy Chuan, Aria If I am not wrong, oil-price (naturally) is lower before summer and going-up again before fall, in line with seasonal demand. It is a seesaw cycle (like Indonesian inflation). Speculations, geopolitics etc are factors affecting that natural cycle. Should we worry if the trend is breaking such as cycle then? Just my 2 worries :) --- On Mon, 6/30/08, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MyLRI RE: DJIA Update To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 11:14 AM Oil price is mainly driven by two kind of news, Fundamental and incidental. Fundamental issues are like Oil Reserve, production, USD valuation, off shore drilling plan (still banned by the US senate). The others are incidental issues like Prez X says war against America, Y militant rebels attack oil wells, tanker Z has delayed transportation because of storm, etc I see most of the news about oil recently are incidental, which is fundamentally weak, in other words, can be reversed easily (with another incidental good news). The other thing is USD is well maintained since April against Euro and Yen. I know, in the long run crude oil is still bullish but not at this pace. US economy is currently still weak so I guess the only reason why it's still lingering above $140 is only because of SPECULATION. And you know who did this. Yeah, those banks who get smacked down by credit crunch. Just my 2 cents, so no disclaimer.. lol.. Elaine 2008/6/30 JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]: DOW jatuh karena harga minyak naik.., jadi kalau minyak turun harusnya DOW rebound.., begitu kah? sebab SEPINTAS saya melihat ada tanda-tanda minyak akan koreksi (pls see attachment). Meskipun MACD baru saja goldencross Candle membentuk pola bullish engulfing dua bar sebelumnya, tapi saya juga melihat ada divergence negative antara price dgn macd volume..., mudah2an tarikan garis saya cukup obyektif dan tdk dipengaruhi oleh harapan saya... he.he Any Comment? Pak Tasrul, Pak Alfatih, and Others. Salam, JsxTrader - Original Message From: Tasrul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:43:08 Subject: MyLRI RE: DJIA Update DOW 27 Juni 06 tutup di 11,346.51,ada peluang untuk reversal (lihat target MACD kemungkinan pertama di 11,346.21).. jika tidak mampu reversal maka target berikut di 10,758.75 Juga terlampir DJIA untuk posisi akhir (27 Juni 08) Tasrul PT. Overseas Securities Research Analyst Plaza Bapindo Mandiri Tower Lt.16 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jl. Jend.Sudirman Kav.54-55 Jakarta 12190, Indonesia Phone 62.21.5277008 Fax 62.21.5277009 DISCLAIMER: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the named addressee(s) is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. PT. Overseas Securities accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. From: Tasrul Sent
