Re: [ob] The Nightmare of Sang Raksasa - Hyperinflation
*This is a very bearish post you got there mate! Well, here's my 2 cents, or should we call it, the GREAT AGENDA (ha ha whatever) for 2010: * - *US dollar is losing its value, price goes up, but since the US is the biggest consumers for now, inflation will make them lose their purchasing power thus the demand will be weak (as imports get more expensive), less workers and raw materials needed. A deadly spiral. * - *Keep in mind that we must be careful to operate from the best definition of inflation. Though it is commonly thought of as 'rising prices', I prefer the more traditional (and ultimately, more meaningful) definition: 'an increase in the quantity of money and credit'. Rising prices are simply one of the effects of inflation; first you have the inflation in the form of an increase in money and credit and then as an aftereffect we experience rising prices. * - *The demand for coal from China (the biggest consumer) and Japan (the biggest importer) are expected to be lower next year as they already have excess supply from last year contract. * - *When we talk about inflation, we really mean (cheap) currency. Since China holds the most USD today it means they're in danger as well. Basically they're holding worthless paper. (It's not even in the form of paper), so CIC goes around the world to spread this worthless paper, including to Bumi (lolz) * - *Igor Panarin, a Russian economic professor, predicted that the United States of America may disintegrate in late 2010 because of civil war and social unrest (like what happened in Indonesia eleven years ago). I kinda agree with this guy. People's States of China.. * - *USD collapses and replaced by SDR (or other form of global money) for international trade. You know, currently only 4% of USD is in bank notes (paper), the rest (96%) is electronic money. USD can be created in a matter of a millisecond. * - *There will be possibly the biggest (and the last) major catastrophe for stock market around the globe in 2010, thanks to dollar shock. I'd say Buy On Weakness (that is if the global stock exchange doesn't get frozen). * - *Alternative energy sources such as biomass, solar, nuclear and natural gas will play major roles in 2010 forward. * - *Asia will be flooded with Americans that are looking for jobs. Our job. * - *Japan will have population crisis. Japaneses are simply refusing to have children because of high unemployment. * - *Many high profile hedge fund like Templeton and Mobius are already betting in Asia ex Japan. * *Well, it's not really an agenda, just common sense so please feel free to discuss. No reason to be afraid though as I know Indonesia survived Asian Crisis, right? [?]. I know, sometimes I made crazy thinking. I expect most of you will not agree with me (as usual), but please kindly share your opinion too. After all these mess, everything will start over again, this is only a lifecycle. We are so lucky to witness this epic turnaround. Woohoo!! There is no secret agenda, all we have to do is open our mind and think outside the box. Macro economy is not a science, it's an art. lolz.. *** 2009/10/4 yokorusi yokor...@yahoo.com http://unpublisheddream.blogspot.com/2009/10/nightmare-of-sang-raksasa.html Bulan February 2009 yang lalu di dalam satu tulisan yang berjudul Worst Than Nothing atau Better Than Nothing? - saya sedikit mengulas mengenai esensi krisis keuangan yang bersumber dari keserakahan, kebejatan moral dan kebohongan terstruktur. Tulisan kali inipun tidak jauh dari krisis keuangan di US dan tidak jauh pula dari keinginan saya menyatakan kembali bahwa ketiga hal tersebutlah yang telah dan akan terus membawa ekonomi US menyentuh titik terburuk dalam satu dekade mendatang bila pemerintah US dan sebagian besar ekonom US tidak melakukan koreksi kebijakan dan titik pandang pemulihan krisis secara segera. Titik terburuk tersebut adalah malapetaka hyperinflation. Hyperinflation? Satu hipotesa yang saat ini masih dianggap kecil kemungkinan (atau bahkan tidak mungkin) terjadi oleh sebagian besar ekonom. Saya sendiri termasuk satu dari kelompok yang beranggapan bahwwa potensi terjadinya hyperinflation di US adalah relatif tinggi. Tentu saja ini dengan berbagai asumsi yang mengikuti. Memang sungguh tidak mudah membayangkan terjadinya hyperinflation di US – membayangkan sebuah negara adidaya dalam satu dekade ke depan dapat terjerembab dan tersungkur dimana nilai mata uangnya merosot drastis, terjadi pengangguran dimana mana, kemiskinan menyebar, negara terperangkap dalam hutang dengan jumlah yang sangat besar, dan sering kali diikuti oleh krisis politik serta krisis social. Mungkin lebih sulit dibanding pada saat 2007 kita membayangkan indeks Dow terkoreksi 50 persen dimana di Maret 2009 ternyata menjadi kenyataan. Mungkin mendengar argumentasi
Re: [ob] The Nightmare of Sang Raksasa - Hyperinflation
*I had a high expectation on the stimulus programs around the world, but seems they don't work the way I expected. I dunno what to say, but at least we had our 1400pts rally, didnt we? Thank God we had. If you have different opinion, please share. * 2009/10/4 Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@yahoo.com So, you mean the bull until 2012 canceled el?? -- *From: * It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *Date: *Sun, 4 Oct 2009 21:52:41 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] The Nightmare of Sang Raksasa - Hyperinflation *This is a very bearish post you got there mate! Well, here's my 2 cents, or should we call it, the GREAT AGENDA (ha ha whatever) for 2010: * - *US dollar is losing its value, price goes up, but since the US is the biggest consumers for now, inflation will make them lose their purchasing power thus the demand will be weak (as imports get more expensive), less workers and raw materials needed. A deadly spiral. * - *Keep in mind that we must be careful to operate from the best definition of inflation. Though it is commonly thought of as 'rising prices', I prefer the more traditional (and ultimately, more meaningful) definition: 'an increase in the quantity of money and credit'. Rising prices are simply one of the effects of inflation; first you have the inflation in the form of an increase in money and credit and then as an aftereffect we experience rising prices. * - *The demand for coal from China (the biggest consumer) and Japan (the biggest importer) are expected to be lower next year as they already have excess supply from last year contract. * - *When we talk about inflation, we really mean (cheap) currency. Since China holds the most USD today it means they're in danger as well. Basically they're holding worthless paper. (It's not even in the form of paper), so CIC goes around the world to spread this worthless paper, including to Bumi (lolz) * - *Igor Panarin, a Russian economic professor, predicted that the United States of America may disintegrate in late 2010 because of civil war and social unrest (like what happened in Indonesia eleven years ago). I kinda agree with this guy. People's States of China.. * - *USD collapses and replaced by SDR (or other form of global money) for international trade. You know, currently only 4% of USD is in bank notes (paper), the rest (96%) is electronic money. USD can be created in a matter of a millisecond. * - *There will be possibly the biggest (and the last) major catastrophe for stock market around the globe in 2010, thanks to dollar shock. I'd say Buy On Weakness (that is if the global stock exchange doesn't get frozen). * - *Alternative energy sources such as biomass, solar, nuclear and natural gas will play major roles in 2010 forward. * - *Asia will be flooded with Americans that are looking for jobs. Our job. * - *Japan will have population crisis. Japaneses are simply refusing to have children because of high unemployment. * - *Many high profile hedge fund like Templeton and Mobius are already betting in Asia ex Japan. * *Well, it's not really an agenda, just common sense so please feel free to discuss. No reason to be afraid though as I know Indonesia survived Asian Crisis, right? [?]. I know, sometimes I made crazy thinking. I expect most of you will not agree with me (as usual), but please kindly share your opinion too. After all these mess, everything will start over again, this is only a lifecycle. We are so lucky to witness this epic turnaround. Woohoo!! There is no secret agenda, all we have to do is open our mind and think outside the box. Macro economy is not a science, it's an art. lolz.. *** 2009/10/4 yokorusi yokor...@yahoo.com http://unpublisheddream.blogspot.com/2009/10/nightmare-of-sang-raksasa.html Bulan February 2009 yang lalu di dalam satu tulisan yang berjudul Worst Than Nothing atau Better Than Nothing? - saya sedikit mengulas mengenai esensi krisis keuangan yang bersumber dari keserakahan, kebejatan moral dan kebohongan terstruktur. Tulisan kali inipun tidak jauh dari krisis keuangan di US dan tidak jauh pula dari keinginan saya menyatakan kembali bahwa ketiga hal tersebutlah yang telah dan akan terus membawa ekonomi US menyentuh titik terburuk dalam satu dekade mendatang bila pemerintah US dan sebagian besar ekonom US tidak melakukan koreksi kebijakan dan titik pandang pemulihan krisis secara segera. Titik terburuk tersebut adalah malapetaka hyperinflation. Hyperinflation? Satu hipotesa yang saat ini masih dianggap kecil kemungkinan (atau bahkan tidak mungkin) terjadi oleh sebagian besar ekonom. Saya sendiri termasuk satu dari kelompok yang beranggapan bahwwa potensi terjadinya hyperinflation di US adalah relatif
Re: [ob] The Nightmare of Sang Raksasa - Hyperinflation
*I cannot tell you on that one [?]. I don't know the answer. Can somebody help?* On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 10:35 PM, boyz® m457...@yahoo.com.sg wrote: Thanks for sharing, EL. I don't think it is secret agenda. Like you said, just common senses. What will become secret agenda is the maneuver of the market's sovereign to anticipate that. From your perspectives, if you think there's asset/fund management institutions that have the same thinking with yours, where would they put their assets(funds) to secure it from '*devaluation*'. (USD devaluated against major currencies, right?) Commodities? Gold? Bonds? Sharia Bonds? Emerging Market Equities? Thanks again. Salam, 2009/10/4 It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *This is a very bearish post you got there mate! Well, here's my 2 cents, or should we call it, the GREAT AGENDA (ha ha whatever) for 2010: * - *US dollar is losing its value, price goes up, but since the US is the biggest consumers for now, inflation will make them lose their purchasing power thus the demand will be weak (as imports get more expensive), less workers and raw materials needed. A deadly spiral. * - *Keep in mind that we must be careful to operate from the best definition of inflation. Though it is commonly thought of as 'rising prices', I prefer the more traditional (and ultimately, more meaningful) definition: 'an increase in the quantity of money and credit'. Rising prices are simply one of the effects of inflation; first you have the inflation in the form of an increase in money and credit and then as an aftereffect we experience rising prices. * - *The demand for coal from China (the biggest consumer) and Japan (the biggest importer) are expected to be lower next year as they already have excess supply from last year contract. * - *When we talk about inflation, we really mean (cheap) currency. Since China holds the most USD today it means they're in danger as well. Basically they're holding worthless paper. (It's not even in the form of paper), so CIC goes around the world to spread this worthless paper, including to Bumi (lolz) * - *Igor Panarin, a Russian economic professor, predicted that the United States of America may disintegrate in late 2010 because of civil war and social unrest (like what happened in Indonesia eleven years ago). I kinda agree with this guy. People's States of China.. * - *USD collapses and replaced by SDR (or other form of global money) for international trade. You know, currently only 4% of USD is in bank notes (paper), the rest (96%) is electronic money. USD can be created in a matter of a millisecond. * - *There will be possibly the biggest (and the last) major catastrophe for stock market around the globe in 2010, thanks to dollar shock. I'd say Buy On Weakness (that is if the global stock exchange doesn't get frozen). * - *Alternative energy sources such as biomass, solar, nuclear and natural gas will play major roles in 2010 forward. * - *Asia will be flooded with Americans that are looking for jobs. Our job. * - *Japan will have population crisis. Japaneses are simply refusing to have children because of high unemployment. * - *Many high profile hedge fund like Templeton and Mobius are already betting in Asia ex Japan. * *Well, it's not really an agenda, just common sense so please feel free to discuss. No reason to be afraid though as I know Indonesia survived Asian Crisis, right? [?]. I know, sometimes I made crazy thinking. I expect most of you will not agree with me (as usual), but please kindly share your opinion too. After all these mess, everything will start over again, this is only a lifecycle. We are so lucky to witness this epic turnaround. Woohoo!! There is no secret agenda, all we have to do is open our mind and think outside the box. Macro economy is not a science, it's an art. lolz.. * 338.gif330.gif
Re: [ob] The Nightmare of Sang Raksasa - Hyperinflation
*For day to day strategy, OB has JT, Tasrul, Embah, Boyz and Artomoro9 which should be more than enough to guide everyone here. I, like yokorusi, only express our opinion from the macro side. I also understand that my investment strategy is not quite relevant to retail traders so please forgive me for my limited knowledge.* On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:11 PM, boyz® m457...@yahoo.com.sg wrote: Hahaha... You got me. Awas ya, gw cubit kalo nanti ketemu :P Pls EL... tell me. At least, tell me what are their strategies to minimize the devaluation of their assets. Thanks. :) Salam, On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:01 PM, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.comwrote: *I cannot tell you on that one [?]. I don't know the answer. Can somebody help?* On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 10:35 PM, boyz® m457...@yahoo.com.sg wrote: Thanks for sharing, EL. I don't think it is secret agenda. Like you said, just common senses. What will become secret agenda is the maneuver of the market's sovereign to anticipate that. From your perspectives, if you think there's asset/fund management institutions that have the same thinking with yours, where would they put their assets(funds) to secure it from '*devaluation *'. (USD devaluated against major currencies, right?) Commodities? Gold? Bonds? Sharia Bonds? Emerging Market Equities? Thanks again. Salam, 2009/10/4 It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *This is a very bearish post you got there mate! Well, here's my 2 cents, or should we call it, the GREAT AGENDA (ha ha whatever) for 2010: * - *US dollar is losing its value, price goes up, but since the US is the biggest consumers for now, inflation will make them lose their purchasing power thus the demand will be weak (as imports get more expensive), less workers and raw materials needed. A deadly spiral. * - *Keep in mind that we must be careful to operate from the best definition of inflation. Though it is commonly thought of as 'rising prices', I prefer the more traditional (and ultimately, more meaningful) definition: 'an increase in the quantity of money and credit'. Rising prices are simply one of the effects of inflation; first you have the inflation in the form of an increase in money and credit and then as an aftereffect we experience rising prices. * - *The demand for coal from China (the biggest consumer) and Japan (the biggest importer) are expected to be lower next year as they already have excess supply from last year contract. * - *When we talk about inflation, we really mean (cheap) currency. Since China holds the most USD today it means they're in danger as well. Basically they're holding worthless paper. (It's not even in the form of paper), so CIC goes around the world to spread this worthless paper, including to Bumi (lolz) * - *Igor Panarin, a Russian economic professor, predicted that the United States of America may disintegrate in late 2010 because of civil war and social unrest (like what happened in Indonesia eleven years ago). I kinda agree with this guy. People's States of China.. * - *USD collapses and replaced by SDR (or other form of global money) for international trade. You know, currently only 4% of USD is in bank notes (paper), the rest (96%) is electronic money. USD can be created in a matter of a millisecond. * - *There will be possibly the biggest (and the last) major catastrophe for stock market around the globe in 2010, thanks to dollar shock. I'd say Buy On Weakness (that is if the global stock exchange doesn't get frozen). * - *Alternative energy sources such as biomass, solar, nuclear and natural gas will play major roles in 2010 forward. * - *Asia will be flooded with Americans that are looking for jobs. Our job. * - *Japan will have population crisis. Japaneses are simply refusing to have children because of high unemployment. * - *Many high profile hedge fund like Templeton and Mobius are already betting in Asia ex Japan. * *Well, it's not really an agenda, just common sense so please feel free to discuss. No reason to be afraid though as I know Indonesia survived Asian Crisis, right? [?]. I know, sometimes I made crazy thinking. I expect most of you will not agree with me (as usual), but please kindly share your opinion too. After all these mess, everything will start over again, this is only a lifecycle. We are so lucky to witness this epic turnaround. Woohoo!! There is no secret agenda, all we have to do is open our mind and think outside the box. Macro economy is not a science, it's an art. lolz.. * 338.gif330.gif
Re: [ob] The Nightmare of Sang Raksasa - Hyperinflation
*#1 green energy and global warming issue, and coal is considered as dirty. But of course for now coal is king, but for how long? #2 it is. * 2009/10/4 anrusing data anru.s...@gmail.com Very good El, Mostly have the same sense with you, except: Alternative energy sources such as biomass, solar, nuclear and natural gas will play major roles in 2010 forward. # Why do they use energy sources while coal is still cheap? Asia will be flooded with Americans that are looking for jobs. Our job. # emang mau panas, sambel, terasi, tempe? (bad joke :) ) Many high profile hedge fund like Templeton and Mobius are already bettingin Asia ex Japan. # wah, saingan ama prof JT and Hans donk... :) 2009/10/4 It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *This is a very bearish post you got there mate! Well, here's my 2 cents, or should we call it, the GREAT AGENDA (ha ha whatever) for 2010: * - *US dollar is losing its value, price goes up, but since the US is the biggest consumers for now, inflation will make them lose their purchasing power thus the demand will be weak (as imports get more expensive), less workers and raw materials needed. A deadly spiral. * - *Keep in mind that we must be careful to operate from the best definition of inflation. Though it is commonly thought of as 'rising prices', I prefer the more traditional (and ultimately, more meaningful) definition: 'an increase in the quantity of money and credit'. Rising prices are simply one of the effects of inflation; first you have the inflation in the form of an increase in money and credit and then as an aftereffect we experience rising prices. * - *The demand for coal from China (the biggest consumer) and Japan (the biggest importer) are expected to be lower next year as they already have excess supply from last year contract. * - *When we talk about inflation, we really mean (cheap) currency. Since China holds the most USD today it means they're in danger as well. Basically they're holding worthless paper. (It's not even in the form of paper), so CIC goes around the world to spread this worthless paper, including to Bumi (lolz) * - *Igor Panarin, a Russian economic professor, predicted that the United States of America may disintegrate in late 2010 because of civil war and social unrest (like what happened in Indonesia eleven years ago). I kinda agree with this guy. People's States of China.. * - *USD collapses and replaced by SDR (or other form of global money) for international trade. You know, currently only 4% of USD is in bank notes (paper), the rest (96%) is electronic money. USD can be created in a matter of a millisecond. * - *There will be possibly the biggest (and the last) major catastrophe for stock market around the globe in 2010, thanks to dollar shock. I'd say Buy On Weakness (that is if the global stock exchange doesn't get frozen). * - *Alternative energy sources such as biomass, solar, nuclear and natural gas will play major roles in 2010 forward. * - *Asia will be flooded with Americans that are looking for jobs. Our job. * - *Japan will have population crisis. Japaneses are simply refusing to have children because of high unemployment. * - *Many high profile hedge fund like Templeton and Mobius are already betting in Asia ex Japan. * *Well, it's not really an agenda, just common sense so please feel free to discuss. No reason to be afraid though as I know Indonesia survived Asian Crisis, right? [?]. I know, sometimes I made crazy thinking. I expect most of you will not agree with me (as usual), but please kindly share your opinion too. After all these mess, everything will start over again, this is only a lifecycle. We are so lucky to witness this epic turnaround. Woohoo!! There is no secret agenda, all we have to do is open our mind and think outside the box. Macro economy is not a science, it's an art. lolz.. *** 2009/10/4 yokorusi yokor...@yahoo.com http://unpublisheddream.blogspot.com/2009/10/nightmare-of-sang-raksasa.html Bulan February 2009 yang lalu di dalam satu tulisan yang berjudul Worst Than Nothing atau Better Than Nothing? - saya sedikit mengulas mengenai esensi krisis keuangan yang bersumber dari keserakahan, kebejatan moral dan kebohongan terstruktur. Tulisan kali inipun tidak jauh dari krisis keuangan di US dan tidak jauh pula dari keinginan saya menyatakan kembali bahwa ketiga hal tersebutlah yang telah dan akan terus membawa ekonomi US menyentuh titik terburuk dalam satu dekade mendatang bila pemerintah US dan sebagian besar ekonom US tidak melakukan koreksi kebijakan dan titik pandang pemulihan krisis secara segera. Titik terburuk tersebut adalah malapetaka hyperinflation. Hyperinflation? Satu hipotesa yang saat ini masih dianggap kecil kemungkinan (atau
Re: [ob] The Nightmare of Sang Raksasa - Hyperinflation
*Artmoro implicitly just said he will jack up bumi tomorrow, so let's just enjoy it. What a generous person he is. [?] * On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:50 PM, boyz® m457...@yahoo.com.sg wrote: You are so modest :) Thanks anyway for sharing and enrich us with macro view. Those should be helpful for them who analyze the market by 'top-down' approach. Keep sharing. Salam, On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:38 PM, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.comwrote: *For day to day strategy, OB has JT, Tasrul, Embah, Boyz and Artomoro9 which should be more than enough to guide everyone here. I, like yokorusi, only express our opinion from the macro side. I also understand that my investment strategy is not quite relevant to retail traders so please forgive me for my limited knowledge.* On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:11 PM, boyz® m457...@yahoo.com.sg wrote: Hahaha... You got me. Awas ya, gw cubit kalo nanti ketemu :P Pls EL... tell me. At least, tell me what are their strategies to minimize the devaluation of their assets. Thanks. :) Salam, On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:01 PM, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.comwrote: *I cannot tell you on that one [?]. I don't know the answer. Can somebody help?* On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 10:35 PM, boyz® m457...@yahoo.com.sg wrote: Thanks for sharing, EL. I don't think it is secret agenda. Like you said, just common senses. What will become secret agenda is the maneuver of the market's sovereign to anticipate that. From your perspectives, if you think there's asset/fund management institutions that have the same thinking with yours, where would they put their assets(funds) to secure it from '* devaluation*'. (USD devaluated against major currencies, right?) Commodities? Gold? Bonds? Sharia Bonds? Emerging Market Equities? Thanks again. Salam, 2009/10/4 It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *This is a very bearish post you got there mate! Well, here's my 2 cents, or should we call it, the GREAT AGENDA (ha ha whatever) for 2010: * - *US dollar is losing its value, price goes up, but since the US is the biggest consumers for now, inflation will make them lose their purchasing power thus the demand will be weak (as imports get more expensive), less workers and raw materials needed. A deadly spiral. * - *Keep in mind that we must be careful to operate from the best definition of inflation. Though it is commonly thought of as 'rising prices', I prefer the more traditional (and ultimately, more meaningful) definition: 'an increase in the quantity of money and credit'. Rising prices are simply one of the effects of inflation; first you have the inflation in the form of an increase in money and credit and then as an aftereffect we experience rising prices. * - *The demand for coal from China (the biggest consumer) and Japan (the biggest importer) are expected to be lower next year as they already have excess supply from last year contract. * - *When we talk about inflation, we really mean (cheap) currency. Since China holds the most USD today it means they're in danger as well. Basically they're holding worthless paper. (It's not even in the form of paper), so CIC goes around the world to spread this worthless paper, including to Bumi (lolz) * - *Igor Panarin, a Russian economic professor, predicted that the United States of America may disintegrate in late 2010 because of civil war and social unrest (like what happened in Indonesia eleven years ago). I kinda agree with this guy. People's States of China.. * - *USD collapses and replaced by SDR (or other form of global money) for international trade. You know, currently only 4% of USD is in bank notes (paper), the rest (96%) is electronic money. USD can be created in a matter of a millisecond. * - *There will be possibly the biggest (and the last) major catastrophe for stock market around the globe in 2010, thanks to dollar shock. I'd say Buy On Weakness (that is if the global stock exchange doesn't get frozen). * - *Alternative energy sources such as biomass, solar, nuclear and natural gas will play major roles in 2010 forward. * - *Asia will be flooded with Americans that are looking for jobs. Our job. * - *Japan will have population crisis. Japaneses are simply refusing to have children because of high unemployment. * - *Many high profile hedge fund like Templeton and Mobius are already betting in Asia ex Japan. * *Well, it's not really an agenda, just common sense so please feel free to discuss. No reason to be afraid though as I know Indonesia survived Asian Crisis, right? [?]. I know, sometimes I made crazy thinking. I expect most of you will not agree with me (as usual), but please kindly share your opinion too. After all these mess, everything
Re: [ob] Kaburrrrrrrrrr.......BUMI !!!
*HH!! * 2009/10/5 JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com In term of TA, BNBR jauh lebih cakep.., tapi tetep statusnya masih spec buy, hrs tunggu bsk... Powered by TLKM BullBerry® “ Good Trade Comes To Those Who Wait “ -- *From: * Bozz Traders powerman.tra...@gmail.com *Date: *Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:27:24 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *[ob] Kaburr...BUMI !!! *Jendral. Kayaknya serangan Bumi loyo nih, soalnye ane lihat traders pada kabu langkah seribu, bisa tutup merah nih Jend *
Re: Bls: [ob] Re: BUMI Page ini (Bill William)
*Just put the chart upside down... lolz* 2009/10/5 boyz® m457...@yahoo.com.sg Kalo digabung (dimodified) sama volume analysis, makin optimal kali tu, bro... Rumus nya dikunci sih... tapi kayaknya dulu ane pernah lihat ada yg bisa bikin rumus-nya di Metastock. Apakah di crack Passwordnya, atau di Rekonstriksi, ane ga paham dah. Tapi kalau dipakai di IDX, tetep cuma bisa searah (long position) doang. So... system ini (karena trend following) cuma optimal kalo market lagi Bullish aja. Salam 2009/10/5 JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com Itu die.., hehe..
Re: [ob] The Nightmare of Sang Raksasa - Hyperinflation
*Devaluating the USD could trigger a war with China and the rest of the world. What will happen if your foreign reserve (which in USD) is devaluated to 1/10? I'd say it's better for the Fed to stop the stimulus program and begin raising int. rate to endorse saving and limit the circulation of money. What will happen next would be major carry trade unwind and prolonged recession. Recession is not something to be afraid of, it's naturally part of the economic cycle after a bubble economy. If they're forcing to avoid recession by 'patching' with another bubble (either by cutting rates or 'creating' money), they might end up destroying the whole economy itself. Bernanke should increase the int rate up to 10%. In the 1973, hyperinflation also existed in the US, thanks to Arab oil embago. A treasury guy named Paul Volcker made a huge step by increasing int. rate to 20%. Unless, there is a dirty plan coming.. Anyway, I know it's green today, like the color of my skirt I'm wearing now.. (lolz like anyone cares) * 2009/10/4 agung aja agung.ke...@yahoo.com Its simple miss, when the world economy had been in difficult situation, US will create new economic system that is reset all company Balance Sheet, or create an extrem policy that US gov should create new US $, 10 $ become 1 $, thats only the way out from the crisis, US $ index has fallen for ever since, then the world should has a new currency, especially Asia should have one, like euro in Europe, so that the world doesn't need to depend on US $, I agree with you that china still convert their US $ into commodities since they've seen US $ index become lower low one big question : what if the world has a new currency, will it be euro or renmimbi or the other ??? let see the next story of the new world economy, time will tell cmiiw regards -- *From:* It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sun, October 4, 2009 10:42:02 PM *Subject:* Re: [ob] The Nightmare of Sang Raksasa - Hyperinflation *I had a high expectation on the stimulus programs around the world, but seems they don't work the way I expected. I dunno what to say, but at least we had our 1400pts rally, didnt we? Thank God we had. If you have different opinion, please share. * 2009/10/4 Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2000@ yahoo.comthomaszone_2...@yahoo.com So, you mean the bull until 2012 canceled el?? -- *From: * It's Elaine! elainesui83@ gmail.com elainesu...@gmail.com *Date: *Sun, 4 Oct 2009 21:52:41 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] The Nightmare of Sang Raksasa - Hyperinflation *This is a very bearish post you got there mate! Well, here's my 2 cents, or should we call it, the GREAT AGENDA (ha ha whatever) for 2010: * - *US dollar is losing its value, price goes up, but since the US is the biggest consumers for now, inflation will make them lose their purchasing power thus the demand will be weak (as imports get more expensive), less workers and raw materials needed. A deadly spiral. * - *Keep in mind that we must be careful to operate from the best definition of inflation. Though it is commonly thought of as 'rising prices', I prefer the more traditional (and ultimately, more meaningful) definition: 'an increase in the quantity of money and credit'. Rising prices are simply one of the effects of inflation; first you have the inflation in the form of an increase in money and credit and then as an aftereffect we experience rising prices. * - *The demand for coal from China (the biggest consumer) and Japan (the biggest importer) are expected to be lower next year as they already have excess supply from last year contract. * - *When we talk about inflation, we really mean (cheap) currency. Since China holds the most USD today it means they're in danger as well. Basically they're holding worthless paper. (It's not even in the form of paper), so CIC goes around the world to spread this worthless paper, including to Bumi (lolz) * - *Igor Panarin, a Russian economic professor, predicted that the United States of America may disintegrate in late 2010 because of civil war and social unrest (like what happened in Indonesia eleven years ago). I kinda agree with this guy. People's States of China.. * - *USD collapses and replaced by SDR (or other form of global money) for international trade. You know, currently only 4% of USD is in bank notes (paper), the rest (96%) is electronic money. USD can be created in a matter of a millisecond. * - *There will be possibly the biggest (and the last) major catastrophe for stock market around the globe in 2010, thanks to dollar shock. I'd say Buy On Weakness (that is if the global stock exchange doesn't
Re: [ob] ANTM gimane nih?
*Safe? You really think so?* 2009/10/8 JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com Antm ane masih Hold Pak..., TINS masih OK, INCO blom ada momentum, masih random move.., BUMI lagi coba bikin base, close diatas 2850 confirm reverse.., MEDC PAUSE, masih bisa HOLD, IHSG masih AMAN !! JT *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *highwaysta...@gmail.com *Sent:* 08 Oktober 2009 15:00 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [ob] ANTM gimane nih? Huahhahaha don't put gamblers in the same room they say...apalagi ada kartu :) Kidding boss Antm dah out pak? Masa cm segini aja ya.. Sent from my computer of course! -- *From: *jsxtrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com *Date: *Thu, 08 Oct 2009 07:57:34 - *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] ANTM gimane nih? sorry boss.., ngga pantau OB, ane lagi bareng Hans meratapi nasib nih nyangkut di BUMI., hahaha.., ngga.., ngga, lagi meeting nih nyiapin materi buat WS sabtu besok.., tapi yg ada bukan nyiapin materi malah trading bareng..., hehehe. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, iching_prediction iching_predict...@... wrote: prof dimana nih seharian nga nonggol, antm udah tp belon? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, JT jsxtrader@ wrote: LALAT-LALAT MUDA ikutin LALAT TUWIR (Mbah) aja tuh……., wushhh.. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com[mailto: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Halim Perdana Sent: 07 Oktober 2009 13:57 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] ANTM gimane nih? Lalat muda aman nggak Prof? Tidak ada virus ditemukan dalam pesan masuk. Diperiksa oleh AVG - www.avg.com Versi: 8.5.421 / Basis Data Virus: 270.14.7/2421 - Tanggal Rilis: 10/07/09 20:49:00
Re: done ! Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz
*Is that all?* 2009/10/9 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id tugas BANTENG KETATON untuk reboundkan BUMI sore ini DONE. dan DEAL permintaan kumendan boyz utk 2875 Bid udah kesampaian. ijo gak ijo pokoke rebound.. (kekekekek) selanjutnya NUNGGU petunjuk embah. regards, A9 (banteng ketaton .! masih berbiji) --- Pada *Jum, 9/10/09, Aria Santoso ariasant...@gmail.com* menulis: Dari: Aria Santoso ariasant...@gmail.com Judul: Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Jumat, 9 Oktober, 2009, 2:53 PM Thanks Jendral A9! Target done. Pasukan siap dibubarkan... tinggal pasukan elite yg masih di lokasi pertempuran. artomoro9 wrote: DEAL...! regards, A9 (banteng ketaton ! yang masih berbiji) --- Pada *Jum, 9/10/09, boyz® /m457...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=m457...@gmail.com/* menulis: Dari: boyz® m457...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=m457...@gmail.com Judul: Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Jumat, 9 Oktober, 2009, 10:19 AM Wekz jendral bikin ane tersipu malu nih, masa kopral dipanggil kumendan... :P mmm... perintah kumendan Aria S katanya 2875 kudu di kiri, jend.. :) Salam, 2009/10/9 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.idhttp://mc/compose?to=artomo...@yahoo.co.id /mc/compose?to=artomo...@yahoo.co.idhttp://mc/compose?to=artomo...@yahoo.co.id siyap kumendan boyz... ni hari BUMI kudu rebound. ijo gak ijo pokoke BUMI rebound. regards, A9 (banteng ketaton yg masih punya biji) Ada baiknya jendral memimpin mundur pasukan... jgn kabur sendirian.. banyak fans anda khususnya newbie2 yg masih mengharapkan aba2 dari anda.. seperti ketika anda memimpin saat bullish... Mundur untuk menyerang kembali ? why not... boyz tolong kasih strategi apa yg ada di buku War Manual of Tsun Zu... kl perangnya di ibaratkan seperti situasi saham bumi skarang... thx http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/messenger/trueswitch/mailtagline/*http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ ,_._,___ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links -- Berselancar lebih cepat. http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/ Internet Explorer 8 yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! otomatis membuka 2 halaman favorit Anda setiap kali Anda membuka browser.Dapatkan IE8 di sini! (Gratis)http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/
Re: done ! Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz
*Kenapa? mau naik?* 2009/10/9 Andre Andre andre...@yahoo.com ELBNBR ente koq diem ajeente blg mau maen kapan neh? -- *From:* It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Fri, October 9, 2009 4:19:07 PM *Subject:* Re: done ! Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz *Is that all?* 2009/10/9 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id artomo...@yahoo..co.id tugas BANTENG KETATON untuk reboundkan BUMI sore ini DONE. dan DEAL permintaan kumendan boyz utk 2875 Bid udah kesampaian. ijo gak ijo pokoke rebound.. (kekekekek) selanjutnya NUNGGU petunjuk embah. regards, A9 (banteng ketaton .! masih berbiji) --- Pada *Jum, 9/10/09, Aria Santoso ariasantoso@ gmail.comariasant...@gmail.com * menulis: Dari: Aria Santoso ariasantoso@ gmail.com ariasant...@gmail.com Judul: Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Jumat, 9 Oktober, 2009, 2:53 PM Thanks Jendral A9! Target done. Pasukan siap dibubarkan.. . tinggal pasukan elite yg masih di lokasi pertempuran. artomoro9 wrote: DEAL...! regards, A9 (banteng ketaton ! yang masih berbiji) --- Pada *Jum, 9/10/09, boyz® /m457...@gmail. comhttp://mc/compose?to=m457...@gmail.com/* menulis: Dari: boyz® m457...@gmail. comhttp://mc/compose?to=m457...@gmail.com Judul: Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Jumat, 9 Oktober, 2009, 10:19 AM Wekz jendral bikin ane tersipu malu nih, masa kopral dipanggil kumendan... :P mmm... perintah kumendan Aria S katanya 2875 kudu di kiri, jend.. :) Salam, 2009/10/9 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.idhttp://mc/compose?to=artomo...@yahoo.co.id /mc/compose? to=artomo...@yahoo. co.idhttp://mc/compose?to=artomo...@yahoo.co.id siyap kumendan boyz... ni hari BUMI kudu rebound. ijo gak ijo pokoke BUMI rebound. regards, A9 (banteng ketaton yg masih punya biji) Ada baiknya jendral memimpin mundur pasukan jgn kabur sendirian.. banyak fans anda khususnya newbie2 yg masih mengharapkan aba2 dari anda.. seperti ketika anda memimpin saat bullish... Mundur untuk menyerang kembali ? why not... boyz tolong kasih strategi apa yg ada di buku War Manual of Tsun Zu... kl perangnya di ibaratkan seperti situasi saham bumi skarang... thx - - - - - - -- - - - - - - -- http://sg.rd. yahoo.com/ id/messenger/ trueswitch/ mailtagline/ *http://id. messenger. yahoo.com/ invite/http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/messenger/trueswitch/mailtagline/*http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ ,_._,___ - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links -- Berselancar lebih cepat. http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/ Internet Explorer 8 yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! otomatis membuka 2 halaman favorit Anda setiap kali Anda membuka browser.Dapatkan IE8 di sini! (Gratis)http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/
Re: done ! Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz
*Cuma tanya saja. Art did a good job today. I wonder if there's any fundamental reason for today's rebound.* 2009/10/9 ruzli...@gmail.com Weekend dulu El. Ngupi-ngupi, pijet, jalan2 sm keluarga/pacar.. Have a nice weekend all.. -- *From: * It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *Date: *Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:19:07 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: done ! Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz *Is that all?* 2009/10/9 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id tugas BANTENG KETATON untuk reboundkan BUMI sore ini DONE. dan DEAL permintaan kumendan boyz utk 2875 Bid udah kesampaian. ijo gak ijo pokoke rebound.. (kekekekek) selanjutnya NUNGGU petunjuk embah. regards, A9 (banteng ketaton .! masih berbiji) --- Pada *Jum, 9/10/09, Aria Santoso ariasant...@gmail.com* menulis: Dari: Aria Santoso ariasant...@gmail.com Judul: Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Jumat, 9 Oktober, 2009, 2:53 PM Thanks Jendral A9! Target done. Pasukan siap dibubarkan... tinggal pasukan elite yg masih di lokasi pertempuran. artomoro9 wrote: DEAL...! regards, A9 (banteng ketaton ! yang masih berbiji) --- Pada *Jum, 9/10/09, boyz® /m457...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=m457...@gmail.com/* menulis: Dari: boyz® m457...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=m457...@gmail.com Judul: Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Jumat, 9 Oktober, 2009, 10:19 AM Wekz jendral bikin ane tersipu malu nih, masa kopral dipanggil kumendan... :P mmm... perintah kumendan Aria S katanya 2875 kudu di kiri, jend.. :) Salam, 2009/10/9 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.idhttp://mc/compose?to=artomo...@yahoo.co.id /mc/compose?to=artomo...@yahoo.co.idhttp://mc/compose?to=artomo...@yahoo.co.id siyap kumendan boyz... ni hari BUMI kudu rebound. ijo gak ijo pokoke BUMI rebound. regards, A9 (banteng ketaton yg masih punya biji) Ada baiknya jendral memimpin mundur pasukan... jgn kabur sendirian.. banyak fans anda khususnya newbie2 yg masih mengharapkan aba2 dari anda.. seperti ketika anda memimpin saat bullish... Mundur untuk menyerang kembali ? why not... boyz tolong kasih strategi apa yg ada di buku War Manual of Tsun Zu... kl perangnya di ibaratkan seperti situasi saham bumi skarang... thx http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/messenger/trueswitch/mailtagline/*http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ ,_._,___ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links -- Berselancar lebih cepat. http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/ Internet Explorer 8 yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! otomatis membuka 2 halaman favorit Anda setiap kali Anda membuka browser.Dapatkan IE8 di sini! (Gratis)http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/
Re: done ! Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz
*He did a good job [?]. Embah did great job as he warned about BUMI short days ago. Well, okay then anyone care to explain what happened to bumi today?* 2009/10/9 boyz® m457...@gmail.com Just did a good job? He just did great job ! Congratz to General Artomoro... And thanks to all involved in this show, yg terjun kelapangan maupun yg nonton di pinggiran, pasukan elit, reguler bahkan pasukan cadangan yg belum sempet terjun. And great thanks to BOZZ yg hari ini bersedia 'mempertunjukkan' sedikit kepiawaian strategy-nya untuk ditonton dan dianalisa oleh mereka2 yg watch and take attention on BUMI movement. @Elaine: d u think every move should inline with fundamental reason? i thought that is for long run. Salam, 2009/10/9 It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *Cuma tanya saja. Art did a good job today. I wonder if there's any fundamental reason for today's rebound.* 2009/10/9 ruzli...@gmail.com Weekend dulu El. Ngupi-ngupi, pijet, jalan2 sm keluarga/pacar.. Have a nice weekend all.. -- *From: * It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *Date: *Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:19:07 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: done ! Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz *Is that all?* 2009/10/9 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id tugas BANTENG KETATON untuk reboundkan BUMI sore ini DONE. dan DEAL permintaan kumendan boyz utk 2875 Bid udah kesampaian. ijo gak ijo pokoke rebound.. (kekekekek) selanjutnya NUNGGU petunjuk embah. regards, A9 (banteng ketaton .! masih berbiji) --- Pada *Jum, 9/10/09, Aria Santoso ariasant...@gmail.com* menulis: Dari: Aria Santoso ariasant...@gmail.com Judul: Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Jumat, 9 Oktober, 2009, 2:53 PM Thanks Jendral A9! Target done. Pasukan siap dibubarkan... tinggal pasukan elite yg masih di lokasi pertempuran. artomoro9 wrote: DEAL...! regards, A9 (banteng ketaton ! yang masih berbiji) --- Pada *Jum, 9/10/09, boyz® /m457...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=m457...@gmail.com/* menulis: Dari: boyz® m457...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=m457...@gmail.com Judul: Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Jumat, 9 Oktober, 2009, 10:19 AM Wekz jendral bikin ane tersipu malu nih, masa kopral dipanggil kumendan... :P mmm... perintah kumendan Aria S katanya 2875 kudu di kiri, jend.. :) Salam, 2009/10/9 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.idhttp://mc/compose?to=artomo...@yahoo.co.id /mc/compose?to=artomo...@yahoo.co.idhttp://mc/compose?to=artomo...@yahoo.co.id siyap kumendan boyz... ni hari BUMI kudu rebound. ijo gak ijo pokoke BUMI rebound. regards, A9 (banteng ketaton yg masih punya biji) Ada baiknya jendral memimpin mundur pasukan... jgn kabur sendirian.. banyak fans anda khususnya newbie2 yg masih mengharapkan aba2 dari anda.. seperti ketika anda memimpin saat bullish... Mundur untuk menyerang kembali ? why not... boyz tolong kasih strategi apa yg ada di buku War Manual of Tsun Zu... kl perangnya di ibaratkan seperti situasi saham bumi skarang... thx http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/messenger/trueswitch/mailtagline/*http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ ,_._,___ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links -- Berselancar lebih cepat. http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/ Internet Explorer 8 yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! otomatis membuka 2 halaman favorit Anda setiap kali Anda membuka browser.Dapatkan IE8 di sini! (Gratis)http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/ 330.gif
Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz
*You guys are very compatible and harmonious. I think you should get married to each other lolz..* **[?][?] On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:27 AM, boyz® m457...@gmail.com wrote: To Jenderal Artomoro, keep ur spirit high my bro. *Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the deepest valleys. Look on them as your own beloved sons, and they will stand by you even unto death!* Salam, 2009/10/9 elvira raven elvirara...@yahoo.com Ada baiknya jendral memimpin mundur pasukan... jgn kabur sendirian..banyak fans anda khususnya newbie2 yg masih mengharapkan aba2 dari anda.. seperti ketika anda memimpin saat bullish... Mundur untuk menyerang kembali ? why not... boyz tolong kasih strategi apa yg ada di buku War Manual of Tsun Zu... kl perangnya di ibaratkan seperti situasi saham bumi skarang... thx 4F4.gif360.gif
Re: [ob] Dollar Rises, Bonds Fall on Bernanke Comments; Commodities Drop
*That was quick, right boyz..*? [?] On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:45 PM, trader8...@gmail.com wrote: Oct. 9 (Bloomberg) -- The dollar rose against the yen and the euro and government bonds fell after Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke said the bank will tighten monetary policy once the economy improves. Commodities slipped. The U.S. currency advanced as much as 1.3 percent versus the yen, the most since Aug. 7, and was up 1.2 percent at 10:42 a.m. in New York. Yields on two-year Treasuries rose as much as 10 basis points and on German notes as much as 13 basis points. Copper fell 1.5 percent. The Standard Poor’s 500 Index rose 0.2 percent. The Fed will need to raise rates “at some point” to control inflation, Bernanke said at a Board of Governors conference yesterday in Washington. Australia’s Reserve Bank unexpectedly increased its key rate Oct. 6. The MSCI World Index of 23 developed stocks has advanced 4.4 percent this week as U.S. jobless claims fell more than analysts estimated and Alcoa Inc. reported an unexpected profit. Bernanke’s remarks “were interpreted to suggest that the Fed stood ready to tighten,” Gareth Berry, a currency strategist at UBS AG in Singapore, wrote in a note today. “The comments come as investors look for evidence that the policy tightening timetables of other central banks will be brought forward” after the Australian move. The Dollar Index, which IntercontinentalExchange Inc. uses to track the currency against the yen, euro, Swiss franc, pound, Swedish krona and Canadian dollar, rose 0.3 percent to 76.220. It fell to 75.767 yesterday, the lowest level since August 2008. Yen Drops The yen fell against all 16 most-traded currencies tracked by Bloomberg, losing 1.2 percent versus the dollar, after Japan’s Cabinet office said machinery orders rose 0.5 percent in August, compared with the 2.1 percent increase predicted in a Bloomberg survey of 27 economists. The increase in the German two-year yield narrowed the gap, or spread, with the 10-year bund by four basis points to 183 basis points, the lowest level since April 29, based on closing prices. The U.S. Treasury spread was little changed at 237 basis points. Copper for delivery in three months fell as much as 2.1 percent on the London Metal Exchange, leading a decline in industrial metals. Crude oil was little changed at $71.90 a barrel in New York trading. Gold for immediate delivery declined 0.5 percent to $1,049.45 an ounce. The metal rose to a record for three consecutive days this week. European Stocks Europe’s Dow Jones Stoxx 600 Index slipped 0.5 percent after earlier rising as much as 0.3 percent. BHP Billiton Ltd., the world’s largest mining company, fell for the first time in five days, losing 0.6 percent. Developing-nation shares rose for a fifth day. The MSCI Emerging Markets Index added 0.5 percent, extending its weekly increase to 4.8 percent, the most since July 17. The Shanghai Composite Index of stocks in China posted its biggest gain in five weeks as the nation’s markets opened after an eight-day holiday. China’s banking regulator said today it would be premature for the government to start winding down stimulus efforts in the world’s third-largest economy. “It’s far too early to talk about an exit strategy,” Liu Mingkang, chairman of the China Banking Regulatory Commission, told a conference in Hong Kong. The economy “may face a bumpy road ahead.” The International Monetary Fund on Oct. 1 raised its forecast for global growth next year as more than $2 trillion in stimulus packages and demand in Asia pull the world economy out of its worst recession since World War II. The Washington-based IMF said the economy will expand 3.1 percent in 2010, after a July forecast of 2.5 percent. To contact the reporter on this story: Justin Carrigan in London at jcarri...@bloomberg.net === Sent from Bloomberg for Blackberry. Download it from the Blackberry App World! Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links 330.gif
[ob] Robert Prechter?
*Anyone ever heard a name of Robert Prechter?*
Re: [ob] Robert Prechter?
*Ah yes, Elliot Wave. I read somewhere on bloomberg news, he said about deflation or something, obviously based on his wave counting (though I failed to see it). I know nothing about this wave mumbo jumbo though.. How accurate is this method ? anyone have a profitable experience with wave counting?* On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Aria Santoso ariasant...@gmail.comwrote: booster ad to EW course? ;) r u in cahoots with someone? - just kidding. huehuehe... It's Elaine! wrote: /Anyone ever heard a name of Robert Prechter?/ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] Robert Prechter?
*So it comes to a conclusion that wave counting isn't really working (or cannot be used properly... whatever), but seems lot of ppl like it, I saw many posts about wave in OB.* On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Andre Andre andre...@yahoo.com wrote: i subscribed to his newsletters before...he did short sp at 1500 or something and cover it at 700 something...but currently his predictions always wrong and when he done it wrong he always said that it might go higher before crash bla bla blah perhaps he was good when he was younger but now not seems that good hehehe -- *From:* It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sat, October 10, 2009 11:13:42 PM *Subject:* Re: [ob] Robert Prechter? *Ah yes, Elliot Wave. I read somewhere on bloomberg news, he said about deflation or something, obviously based on his wave counting (though I failed to see it). I know nothing about this wave mumbo jumbo though.. How accurate is this method ? anyone have a profitable experience with wave counting?* On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Aria Santoso ariasantoso@ gmail.comariasant...@gmail.com wrote: booster ad to EW course? ;) r u in cahoots with someone? - just kidding. huehuehe... It's Elaine! wrote: /Anyone ever heard a name of Robert Prechter?/ - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] New member!
*Hello kyce, I've been here for a while and also an expert, hope I can take all of your money soon. Nice to meet you too. [?] * On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:23 AM, kyce...@yahoo.com.sg wrote: Hello all.. I'm new here and new in the market also, hope can learn much from you all. Nice too meet you all. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -- *From: * Aria Bela Nusa ariab...@centrin.net.id *Date: *Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:07:08 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *RE: [ob] Dow 10,000... YUP – lihat *bottom-line*-nya ‘aja, yaitu *earnings seasons* dr fundamental perusahaan2 bgm nanti hasilnya – hiperinflasi di sini bisa ‘aja berarti USD masih akan melemah2 sptnya terhadap VALAS lainnya – dstnya… -- *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Franky chandra *Sent:* Monday, October 12, 2009 10:25 PM *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [ob] Dow 10,000... Maaf yah saya newbie ingin share juga, kalo menurut saya persoalan rate itu hanya sementara saja efeknya, tapi secara keseluruhan pasar modal itu tetap fokus pada teknikal dan fundamental perusahaan, so kalau saya lihat when the time is right,slowly but sure they will increase the rate, and the fed usually know how to mix it with market behaviour and they know how to control it, they can mix it with good news, job news, or incomes news, so the market still steady, they not simply increase the rate like that, a lot of factors in that case. Thanx Powered by My-BoLoT-berry® !!HAJAR KANAN TERUS NYOOOK!! -- *From: *inpestorpembela...@gmail.com *Date: *Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:09:05 + *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow 10,000... Kl hiperinflasi berarti inflasi tinggi -- biasanya suku bunga jg dikerek tinggi untuk mengimbangi laju inflasi-- kl suku bunga tinggi not good buat pasar modal. Salam Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -- *From: *tjetjun asias...@medancity.com *Date: *Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:05:53 - *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow 10,000... numpang nanya yah, karena setengah dari saham saya ada di US, kalau terjadi hiperinflasi, apa saham2 usa akan ambruk juga ? dari tulisan dibawah kayaknya saham akan naik ? karena kalau terjadi hiperinflasi, uang amrik akan runtuh, jadi kalau sahamnya runtuh juga, saya kena dua arah. menurut teman saya, akan runtuh dua2nya.. jadi ada yang punya data bagaimana kondisi saham di amrik sewaktu terjadi inflasi besar2an tahun lalu ? biasanyakan rate meningkat dan saham turun, tapi saat kenaikan lalu yang luar biasa, rate fed dalam keadaan sangat tinggi dan saham tiap hari naik. thks dan salam atas bantuannya --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, inpestorpembela...@... wrote: Kl gak salah di milis ini beberapa bulan lalu ada yg prediksi (kl gak salah Stocksforliving) Dow akan ke 1 sebelum mengalami koreksi besar kembali ke lowestnya thn lalu. (Cmiiw) Just be prepare for the worst. Disclaimer on Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: Aria Bela Nusa ariab...@... Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:58:44 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Dow 10,000... Dow 10,000 By Colin Twiggs October 12, 3:00 a.m. ET (6:00 p.m. AET) These extracts from my trading diary are for educational purposes and should not be interpreted as investment or trading advice. Full terms and conditions can be found at Terms of http://www.incrediblecharts.com/legal_vizhon/terms_of_use.htm Use. We remain in the high-risk period following the end of the third quarter. The Dow is also testing its key resistance level of 1, while the FTSE 100 and ASX 200 are testing their key level of 5000. Upward breakout would confirm a bull market, while respect of these levels would warn of a secondary correction. In the long term, we are not out of the woods. John Mauldin in Thoughts From http://www.frontlinethoughts.com/article.asp?id=mwo100909 The Frontline highlights recent research by Peter Bernholz (Professor of Economics at the University of Basel, Switzerland) into the causes of hyper-inflation. In his book Monetary http://astore.amazon.com/incrediblecha-20/detail/1845427785 Regimes and Inflation: History, Economic and Political Relationships, Bernholz analyzes 12 of the largest episodes of hyper-inflation in the last 20 years. All were caused by financing huge public budget deficits through money creation and he concludes that the tipping point for hyper-inflation occurs when government deficits exceed 40% of expenditures. US budget deficits of 40 per cent or more are projected for 2009 and 2010, a
Re: BUMI - RE: [ob] IHSG: The Last Subwave 5 ?
*If you have difficulties jacking up BUMI, I'll help you tomolo. [?]. Just a friendly offer. I have a plan on all B7.* *Are you ok with this?* 2009/10/13 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id masa masih salah denger sih bro..! regards, A BUMI ontheway..! --- Pada *Sel, 13/10/09, boyz® m457...@gmail.com* menulis: Dari: boyz® m457...@gmail.com Judul: Re: BUMI - RE: [ob] IHSG: The Last Subwave 5 ? Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Selasa, 13 Oktober, 2009, 9:24 PM Setuju banget bro... beda bgt antara Gambling dgn Spec Buy. Bro... kalo ada indikasi OIL tembus MA200 weekly di 75an or breaking long-term bearish-nya, feeling ane besok BUMI joged2, bro... DJUSCL juga lagi atret mo break high lagi tuh kayaknya. and denger2 besok katanya ada inflow mau masuk BUMI. *mudah2an ga salah denger, hehehe...* Salam, 2009/10/13 JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=jsxtra...@yahoo.com Hehe, ente bisa aje..., kagak lah, emang ane gak tau besok bijimane.., yg kite tau pasti adalah harga berada di support kuat, dan resiko sdh terukur..., tapi apakah besok naik atau turun kite blom tau, paling kite cuma bisa siapin antisipasi aja, kalo turun gimana, kalau naik gimana.. Apakah ini gambling?? No ini spec buy, ada perbedaan yg mendasar antara keduannya. Hehe... JT Powered by TLKM BullBerry® “ Good Trade Comes To Those Who Wait “ -- Akses email lebih cepat. http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/ Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis)http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/ 330.gif
[ob] BUMI vs BNBR
*Who will win the race (%)...*
Re: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR
*I provide the ocean for **Art to command the battleships.. -Elaine Tzu ;)* On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@yahoo.com wrote: BNBR lahh el.. *Thank You! * ** *ThomaS FredericK* --- On *Tue, 10/13/09, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com* wrote: From: It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com Subject: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 9:43 PM *Who will win the race (%)...*
Re: Trs: Bls: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR
*Ha ha ha... yes you win. Congrats, Art. [?] I'm proud of you. In average, all B7 except Bakrieland perform well today. Since I'm betting on B7 so your victory is our pleasure also. Please take care of our money (OB fam)..* 2009/10/14 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id --- Pada *Rab, 14/10/09, artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id* menulis: Dari: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id Judul: Bls: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR Kepada: artomo...@gmail.com Tanggal: Rabu, 14 Oktober, 2009, 4:02 PM score at 16.00 wib bnbr +4.03% BUMI + 5.35% i m WIN...! regards, A9 BUMI ontheway --- Pada *Rab, 14/10/09, artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id* menulis: Dari: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id Judul: Bls: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 14 Oktober, 2009, 12:07 PM score at 12.00 wib bnbr +3.2% bumi +4.46% pake TOP one dong biar banter!! regards, A9 BUMI ontheway 4000..!! --- Pada *Rab, 14/10/09, artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id* menulis: Dari: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id Judul: Bls: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 14 Oktober, 2009, 9:59 AM DEAL ...! finish at 16.00 regards, A9 BUMI ontheway..! --- Pada *Rab, 14/10/09, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com* menulis: Dari: It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com Judul: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 14 Oktober, 2009, 9:43 AM *Who will win the race (%)...* -- Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat.http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/messenger/trueswitch/mailtagline/*http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! -- Buat sendiri desain eksklusif Messenger Pingbox Anda sekarang! http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/messenger/pingbox/mailtagline/*http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/ Membuat tempat chat pribadi di blog Anda sekarang sangatlah mudah -- Yahoo! Mail Kini Lebih Cepat dan Lebih Bersih. Rasakan bedanya sekarang!http://id.mail.yahoo.com -- Terhubung langsung dengan banyak teman di blog dan situs pribadi Anda? http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/messenger/pingbox/mailtagline/*http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/ Buat Pingbox terbaru Anda sekarang! 330.gif
Re: Trs: Bls: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR
*Why not cium biji jendral.. ha ha ha.. * On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Gombal Suwek pdr5...@gmail.com wrote: Wah . cium tangan Jendral Arto sama Madame Elaine Salut High respect is to Jendral ... Fa Cai Fa Cai 2009/10/14 It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *Ha ha ha... yes you win. Congrats, Art. [?] I'm proud of you. In average, all B7 except Bakrieland perform well today. Since I'm betting on B7 so your victory is our pleasure also. Please take care of our money (OB fam)..* 330.gif
Re: [ob] Fifi kemana ?
*Love is in the air.[?] * On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:10 AM, boyz® m457...@gmail.com wrote: Ehemmm. Suit2 On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:09 AM, JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com wrote: Ci. -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant Sent: 15 Oktober 2009 10:06 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Fifi kemana ? IHSG mulai rebound, kok Fifi engga posting SERBU... hehehe... + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links B0C.gif
Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
*Elaine percaya Artomoro is a man of his word. Bring it to 4000, make all of us happy.* 2009/10/15 Embah jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Methode Bill William itu CONSERVATIVE jadi engga selalu gaya HAJAR KANAN, dengan konsekwensi ketinggalan kereta hehehe: Contoh yg lain: - BW menganjurkan area diatas buaya adalah untuk BUY dan area dibawah buaya untuk SHORT. Ini belum tentu benar tapi logikanya ada yaitu: MENINGKATKAN ODDS agar Trading lebih sering berhasil. - Jangan Buy jika harga ada DIDALAM mulut buaya meskipun Momentumnya naik, ini ternyata benar karena yang beli BUMI di 2900 pada hari Jumat lalu KENA DIMAKAN AMA BUAYA (turun ke 2775) , udah tahu ada didalam mulut buaya DIHAJAR KANAN juga... hehehe... -- *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *artomoro9 *Sent:* Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:54 AM *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Bls: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 hajar kanan mbah...!!! regards, A9 BUMI ontheway 4000..! --- Pada *Kam, 15/10/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id*menulis: Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Judul: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM BUMI: Technical 11:30 http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbumi.png - BUMI sudah menembus garis coklat dan Mulut Buaya (3 colored line) dan membentuk SubWave 3 - Momentum is Up (green AO Momentum) - Buy on LOWER Black Diamond signal as long as BUMI is above the alligator (BOW on Buy Fractal) - Support/Cut Loss: Brown Circle + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links -- Terhubung langsung dengan banyak teman di blog dan situs pribadi Anda? http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/messenger/pingbox/mailtagline/*http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/ Buat Pingbox terbaru Anda sekarang!
Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
HEY... IS HE SELLING ALREADY ARTOO?!?!?!? 2009/10/15 charles_3983 charles_3...@yahoo.com yang hajar kanan bukan buaya tapi BANTENG KETATON :)) jadinya metode BK :) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Hans h...@... wrote: Berhunung yg hajar kanan bukan buaya jadi gak tahu mbah... Hehe... Canda Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone -Original Message- From: Embah jsx-consult...@... Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:16:10 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 Methode Bill William itu CONSERVATIVE jadi engga selalu gaya HAJAR KANAN, dengan konsekwensi ketinggalan kereta hehehe: Contoh yg lain: - BW menganjurkan area diatas buaya adalah untuk BUY dan area dibawah buaya untuk SHORT. Ini belum tentu benar tapi logikanya ada yaitu: MENINGKATKAN ODDS agar Trading lebih sering berhasil. - Jangan Buy jika harga ada DIDALAM mulut buaya meskipun Momentumnya naik, ini ternyata benar karena yang beli BUMI di 2900 pada hari Jumat lalu KENA DIMAKAN AMA BUAYA (turun ke 2775) , udah tahu ada didalam mulut buaya DIHAJAR KANAN juga... hehehe... _ From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of artomoro9 Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:54 AM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Bls: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 hajar kanan mbah...!!! regards, A9 BUMI ontheway 4000..! --- Pada Kam, 15/10/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... menulis: Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... Judul: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM BUMI: Technical 11:30 http://www.obrolanb http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbumi.png andar.com/piwbumi.png - BUMI sudah menembus garis coklat dan Mulut Buaya (3 colored line) dan membentuk SubWave 3 - Momentum is Up (green AO Momentum) - Buy on LOWER Black Diamond signal as long as BUMI is above the alligator (BOW on Buy Fractal) - Support/Cut Loss: Brown Circle + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links (Yahoo! ID required) _ Terhubung http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/messenger/pingbox/mailtagline/*http://id.messenge r.yahoo.com/pingbox/ langsung dengan banyak teman di blog dan situs pribadi Anda? Buat Pingbox terbaru Anda sekarang! + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
*Come here, let me help you kid.* [?] 2009/10/15 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id masih 30 menit. apapun bisa terjadi. regards, A9 BUMI ontheway... --- Pada *Kam, 15/10/09, Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com* menulis: Dari: Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com Judul: Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 3:28 PM Apakah Sinarmas (DH) menghalangi iktiar Jenderal untuk menutup Bumi di 3125? Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. That everything changes is more hopeful than hopeless, because it means everyone can change for the better. -- *From: * Kyle Chen kyce...@gmail.com *Date: *Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:00:00 + *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 Still DEAL for 3125 GENERAL? Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -- *From: * artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id *Date: *Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:56:12 +0800 (SGT) *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 gue yang ketiduran. maaf. regards, A9 BUMI ontheway 4000..! --- Pada *Kam, 15/10/09, kokol...@yahoo. co.id kokol...@yahoo. co.id*menulis: Dari: kokol...@yahoo. co.id kokol...@yahoo. co.id Judul: Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 2:52 PM Biar telat asal selamat jendral..yang penting cuan...assistennya tadi masih tidur ya jendral? Makanya telat? Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Bakrie Group -- *From: * artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id *Date: *Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:48:09 +0800 (SGT) *To: *obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com *Subject: *Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 telat dikit. gpp kan beda 5 menit. regards, A9 BUMI ontheway 4000...! --- Pada *Kam, 15/10/09, artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id* menulis: Dari: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Judul: Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 2:28 PM in ten minute to hajar kanan. regards, A9 BUMI ontheway --- Pada *Kam, 15/10/09, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ gmail.com* menulis: Dari: It's Elaine! elainesui83@ gmail.com Judul: Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 2:21 PM HEY... IS HE SELLING ALREADY ARTOO?!?!?!? 2009/10/15 charles_3983 charles_3983@ yahoo.com yang hajar kanan bukan buaya tapi BANTENG KETATON :)) jadinya metode BK :) --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Hans h...@... wrote: Berhunung yg hajar kanan bukan buaya jadi gak tahu mbah... Hehe... Canda Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone -Original Message- From: Embah jsx-consultant@ ... Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:16:10 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 Methode Bill William itu CONSERVATIVE jadi engga selalu gaya HAJAR KANAN, dengan konsekwensi ketinggalan kereta hehehe: Contoh yg lain: - BW menganjurkan area diatas buaya adalah untuk BUY dan area dibawah buaya untuk SHORT. Ini belum tentu benar tapi logikanya ada yaitu: MENINGKATKAN ODDS agar Trading lebih sering berhasil. - Jangan Buy jika harga ada DIDALAM mulut buaya meskipun Momentumnya naik, ini ternyata benar karena yang beli BUMI di 2900 pada hari Jumat lalu KENA DIMAKAN AMA BUAYA (turun ke 2775) , udah tahu ada didalam mulut buaya DIHAJAR KANAN juga... hehehe... _ From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of artomoro9 Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:54 AM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 hajar kanan mbah...!!! regards, A9 BUMI ontheway 4000..! --- Pada Kam, 15/10/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... menulis: Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... Judul: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM BUMI: Technical 11:30 http://www.obrolanb http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwbumi.pnghttp://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbumi.png andar.com/piwbumi. png http://andar.com/piwbumi.png - BUMI sudah menembus garis coklat dan Mulut Buaya (3 colored line) dan membentuk SubWave 3 - Momentum is Up (green AO Momentum) - Buy on LOWER Black Diamond signal as long as BUMI is above the alligator (BOW on Buy Fractal) - Support/Cut Loss: Brown Circle - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links (Yahoo! ID required) _ Terhubung http://sg.rd. yahoo.com/ id/messenger/ pingbox/mailtagl ine/*http: //id.messengehttp://sg.rd.yahoo.com
Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
*Sudah bantu bid @2700 kenapa tidak dapat... hmfh* 2009/10/15 Kyle Chen kyce...@gmail.com Really? Good then!!! Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -- *From: * It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *Date: *Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:42:56 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 *Come here, let me help you kid.* [?] 2009/10/15 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id masih 30 menit. apapun bisa terjadi. regards, A9 BUMI ontheway... --- Pada *Kam, 15/10/09, Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com* menulis: Dari: Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com Judul: Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 3:28 PM Apakah Sinarmas (DH) menghalangi iktiar Jenderal untuk menutup Bumi di 3125? Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. That everything changes is more hopeful than hopeless, because it means everyone can change for the better. -- *From: * Kyle Chen kyce...@gmail.com *Date: *Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:00:00 + *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 Still DEAL for 3125 GENERAL? Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -- *From: * artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id *Date: *Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:56:12 +0800 (SGT) *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 gue yang ketiduran. maaf. regards, A9 BUMI ontheway 4000..! --- Pada *Kam, 15/10/09, kokol...@yahoo. co.id kokol...@yahoo. co.id*menulis: Dari: kokol...@yahoo. co.id kokol...@yahoo. co.id Judul: Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 2:52 PM Biar telat asal selamat jendral..yang penting cuan...assistennya tadi masih tidur ya jendral? Makanya telat? Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Bakrie Group -- *From: * artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id *Date: *Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:48:09 +0800 (SGT) *To: *obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com *Subject: *Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 telat dikit. gpp kan beda 5 menit. regards, A9 BUMI ontheway 4000...! --- Pada *Kam, 15/10/09, artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id* menulis: Dari: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Judul: Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 2:28 PM in ten minute to hajar kanan. regards, A9 BUMI ontheway --- Pada *Kam, 15/10/09, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ gmail.com* menulis: Dari: It's Elaine! elainesui83@ gmail.com Judul: Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 2:21 PM HEY... IS HE SELLING ALREADY ARTOO?!?!?!? 2009/10/15 charles_3983 charles_3983@ yahoo.com yang hajar kanan bukan buaya tapi BANTENG KETATON :)) jadinya metode BK :) --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Hans h...@... wrote: Berhunung yg hajar kanan bukan buaya jadi gak tahu mbah... Hehe... Canda Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone -Original Message- From: Embah jsx-consultant@ ... Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:16:10 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 Methode Bill William itu CONSERVATIVE jadi engga selalu gaya HAJAR KANAN, dengan konsekwensi ketinggalan kereta hehehe: Contoh yg lain: - BW menganjurkan area diatas buaya adalah untuk BUY dan area dibawah buaya untuk SHORT. Ini belum tentu benar tapi logikanya ada yaitu: MENINGKATKAN ODDS agar Trading lebih sering berhasil. - Jangan Buy jika harga ada DIDALAM mulut buaya meskipun Momentumnya naik, ini ternyata benar karena yang beli BUMI di 2900 pada hari Jumat lalu KENA DIMAKAN AMA BUAYA (turun ke 2775) , udah tahu ada didalam mulut buaya DIHAJAR KANAN juga... hehehe... _ From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of artomoro9 Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:54 AM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 hajar kanan mbah...!!! regards, A9 BUMI ontheway 4000..! --- Pada Kam, 15/10/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... menulis: Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... Judul: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM BUMI: Technical 11:30 http://www.obrolanb http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwbumi.pnghttp://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbumi.png andar.com/piwbumi. png http://andar.com/piwbumi.png - BUMI sudah menembus garis coklat dan Mulut Buaya (3 colored line) dan membentuk SubWave 3 - Momentum is Up (green AO Momentum) - Buy on LOWER Black Diamond signal as long as BUMI is above the alligator (BOW on Buy Fractal) - Support/Cut Loss: Brown Circle
Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
*Yo, next time you sell please let us know ya.. hee hee. Damn, I'm so bad today.* 2009/10/15 It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com HEY... IS HE SELLING ALREADY ARTOO?!?!?!? 2009/10/15 charles_3983 charles_3...@yahoo.com yang hajar kanan bukan buaya tapi BANTENG KETATON :)) jadinya metode BK :) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Hans h...@... wrote: Berhunung yg hajar kanan bukan buaya jadi gak tahu mbah... Hehe... Canda Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone -Original Message- From: Embah jsx-consult...@... Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:16:10 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 Methode Bill William itu CONSERVATIVE jadi engga selalu gaya HAJAR KANAN, dengan konsekwensi ketinggalan kereta hehehe: Contoh yg lain: - BW menganjurkan area diatas buaya adalah untuk BUY dan area dibawah buaya untuk SHORT. Ini belum tentu benar tapi logikanya ada yaitu: MENINGKATKAN ODDS agar Trading lebih sering berhasil. - Jangan Buy jika harga ada DIDALAM mulut buaya meskipun Momentumnya naik, ini ternyata benar karena yang beli BUMI di 2900 pada hari Jumat lalu KENA DIMAKAN AMA BUAYA (turun ke 2775) , udah tahu ada didalam mulut buaya DIHAJAR KANAN juga... hehehe... _ From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of artomoro9 Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:54 AM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Bls: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 hajar kanan mbah...!!! regards, A9 BUMI ontheway 4000..! --- Pada Kam, 15/10/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... menulis: Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... Judul: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM BUMI: Technical 11:30 http://www.obrolanb http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbumi.png andar.com/piwbumi.png - BUMI sudah menembus garis coklat dan Mulut Buaya (3 colored line) dan membentuk SubWave 3 - Momentum is Up (green AO Momentum) - Buy on LOWER Black Diamond signal as long as BUMI is above the alligator (BOW on Buy Fractal) - Support/Cut Loss: Brown Circle + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links (Yahoo! ID required) _ Terhubung http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/messenger/pingbox/mailtagline/*http://id.messenge r.yahoo.com/pingbox/ langsung dengan banyak teman di blog dan situs pribadi Anda? Buat Pingbox terbaru Anda sekarang! + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
*Don't you wish to support Artomoro?* 2009/10/15 Metallic Bull metallic.b...@gmail.com Loser wants to help the winner? Blah! - Original Message - *From:* It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:42 PM *Subject:* Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 *Come here, let me help you kid.* [?] 2009/10/15 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id masih 30 menit. apapun bisa terjadi. regards, A9 BUMI ontheway... --- Pada *Kam, 15/10/09, Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com* menulis: Dari: Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com Judul: Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 3:28 PM Apakah Sinarmas (DH) menghalangi iktiar Jenderal untuk menutup Bumi di 3125? Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. That everything changes is more hopeful than hopeless, because it means everyone can change for the better. -- *From: *Kyle Chen kyce...@gmail.com *Date: *Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:00:00 + *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 Still DEAL for 3125 GENERAL? Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -- *From: *artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id *Date: *Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:56:12 +0800 (SGT) *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 gue yang ketiduran. maaf. regards, A9 BUMI ontheway 4000..! --- Pada *Kam, 15/10/09, kokol...@yahoo. co.id kokol...@yahoo. co.id*menulis: Dari: kokol...@yahoo. co.id kokol...@yahoo. co.id Judul: Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 2:52 PM Biar telat asal selamat jendral..yang penting cuan...assistennya tadi masih tidur ya jendral? Makanya telat? Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Bakrie Group -- *From: *artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id *Date: *Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:48:09 +0800 (SGT) *To: *obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com *Subject: *Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 telat dikit. gpp kan beda 5 menit. regards, A9 BUMI ontheway 4000...! --- Pada *Kam, 15/10/09, artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id* menulis: Dari: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Judul: Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 2:28 PM in ten minute to hajar kanan. regards, A9 BUMI ontheway --- Pada *Kam, 15/10/09, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ gmail.com* menulis: Dari: It's Elaine! elainesui83@ gmail.com Judul: Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 2:21 PM HEY... IS HE SELLING ALREADY ARTOO?!?!?!? 2009/10/15 charles_3983 charles_3983@ yahoo.com yang hajar kanan bukan buaya tapi BANTENG KETATON :)) jadinya metode BK :) --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Hans h...@... wrote: Berhunung yg hajar kanan bukan buaya jadi gak tahu mbah... Hehe... Canda Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone -Original Message- From: Embah jsx-consultant@ ... Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:16:10 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 Methode Bill William itu CONSERVATIVE jadi engga selalu gaya HAJAR KANAN, dengan konsekwensi ketinggalan kereta hehehe: Contoh yg lain: - BW menganjurkan area diatas buaya adalah untuk BUY dan area dibawah buaya untuk SHORT. Ini belum tentu benar tapi logikanya ada yaitu: MENINGKATKAN ODDS agar Trading lebih sering berhasil. - Jangan Buy jika harga ada DIDALAM mulut buaya meskipun Momentumnya naik, ini ternyata benar karena yang beli BUMI di 2900 pada hari Jumat lalu KENA DIMAKAN AMA BUAYA (turun ke 2775) , udah tahu ada didalam mulut buaya DIHAJAR KANAN juga... hehehe... _ From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of artomoro9 Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:54 AM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 hajar kanan mbah...!!! regards, A9 BUMI ontheway 4000..! --- Pada Kam, 15/10/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... menulis: Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... Judul: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM BUMI: Technical 11:30 http://www.obrolanb http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwbumi.pnghttp://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbumi.png andar.com/piwbumi. png http://andar.com/piwbumi.png - BUMI sudah menembus garis coklat dan Mulut Buaya (3 colored line) dan membentuk SubWave 3 - Momentum is Up (green AO Momentum) - Buy on LOWER Black Diamond signal as long as BUMI is above the alligator (BOW on Buy Fractal) - Support/Cut Loss: Brown Circle
[ob] NO INVESTING.
*Short term trading is preferred. The deflation spiral is starting to get a bit out of control. If you hold USD right now, you gotta be out of your mind.*
Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING.
? *usd falls - loses its base value - all USD foreign reserves lose their value - deflation* - *China dumps - USD falls further - deflation spiral.* On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:55 AM, cyhss sa...@budgetmate.net wrote: uhm just wondering, if you believe on deflation, and why thinking usd will fall? It seems to contradict to each other. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, It's Elaine! elainesu...@... wrote: *Short term trading is preferred. The deflation spiral is starting to get a bit out of control. If you hold USD right now, you gotta be out of your mind.* + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING.
*[?] Well I don't ask you to dump it, I was just saying that USD is weakening, perhaps until USDJPY 50. Would you hold USD? I'm definitely not. Cheap dollar is a pain for china as they have the biggest USD reserve in the world.* *But no worry lah, I know you only think about BUMI. hee hee* On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:13 AM, vaulst...@yahoo.com wrote: Everyone has US Dollar Portfolio.. Prob there will be more increase on the share price to make up the losses... How can we dump US Dollar... Everything still in US Dollar... - Sent from my BlackBerry® Bold™ powered by INDOSAT -- *From: * It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *Date: *Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:04:16 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING. ? *usd falls - loses its base value - all USD foreign reserves lose their value - deflation* - *China dumps - USD falls further - deflation spiral.* On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:55 AM, cyhss sa...@budgetmate.net wrote: uhm just wondering, if you believe on deflation, and why thinking usd will fall? It seems to contradict to each other. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, It's Elaine! elainesu...@... wrote: *Short term trading is preferred. The deflation spiral is starting to get a bit out of control. If you hold USD right now, you gotta be out of your mind.* + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links 330.gif
Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING.
*Oh I fogot, Idnonesia has huge US debt too ya... good good.* On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:22 AM, charles_3983 charles_3...@yahoo.comwrote: EL, Indo kan boleh dibilang exposurenya ga segede china kalo USD falls.. USD reserve indo kan kecil hehehe lagian bukannya banyak negara yang udah mulai diversifikasi USD nya... Terus kalau suatu saat perdagangan global pakai SDR apa problem ini akan tetap memukul negara lain atau US saja? Please commentnya... Thanks b4 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, It's Elaine! elainesu...@... wrote: ? *usd falls - loses its base value - all USD foreign reserves lose their value - deflation* - *China dumps - USD falls further - deflation spiral.* On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:55 AM, cyhss sa...@... wrote: uhm just wondering, if you believe on deflation, and why thinking usd will fall? It seems to contradict to each other. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ wrote: *Short term trading is preferred. The deflation spiral is starting to get a bit out of control. If you hold USD right now, you gotta be out of your mind.* + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING.
*Hey, you're the new kid right? you seems to know me well... who **WERE you? lolz [?]* On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Kyle Chen kyce...@gmail.com wrote: Yes EL I agree with u, maybe in short term USD will be more weak and weak, but I think it just a matter of time EL before they bring up the value again, they always doing things like that, controlling the world by playing their value of money. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -- *From: * It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *Date: *Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:26:10 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING. *Oh I fogot, Idnonesia has huge US debt too ya... good good.* On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:22 AM, charles_3983 charles_3...@yahoo.comwrote: EL, Indo kan boleh dibilang exposurenya ga segede china kalo USD falls.. USD reserve indo kan kecil hehehe lagian bukannya banyak negara yang udah mulai diversifikasi USD nya... Terus kalau suatu saat perdagangan global pakai SDR apa problem ini akan tetap memukul negara lain atau US saja? Please commentnya... Thanks b4 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, It's Elaine! elainesu...@... wrote: ? *usd falls - loses its base value - all USD foreign reserves lose their value - deflation* - *China dumps - USD falls further - deflation spiral.* On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:55 AM, cyhss sa...@... wrote: uhm just wondering, if you believe on deflation, and why thinking usd will fall? It seems to contradict to each other. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ wrote: *Short term trading is preferred. The deflation spiral is starting to get a bit out of control. If you hold USD right now, you gotta be out of your mind.* + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links 347.gif
Re: [ob] ente jual ane beli...!
*Elaine tanya lagi, boleh bantu tidak? for OB sake *[?] 2009/10/16 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id ane tetap maju. regards, A9 BUMI ontheway 4000..! -- Sikap Peduli Lingkungan? http://id.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AmebXXL7SVkXoWolLzM10BTJRAx.;_ylv=3?qid=20071018122153AAIUfb8 Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers! 330.gif
Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING.
*Well I dunno, if fed raise int rate then usd may rebound, but I dunno. Why would the Fed endorse strong dollar policy if it only benefits China? If I have huge debt, I want the underlying currency to be as low as it can be (and my reserve as high as possible aka gold) US holds the most gold in the world. Weak dollar will make US exports goods and services cheap, more competitive and attractive than to its Asian counterparts'. Like I said, even though prices (in USD) may skyrocket, it's actually a deflation, because of its rapid losses in value. You may see, in 1-2 years, there will be a lot of foreigners walking in your backyard, looking (stealing) your job. Indonesia will import a lot more of goods, from raw sugar to prostitutes, because of its strong currency. Again, only IF the fed doesn't raise int rate. Elaine** * On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:05 PM, edwin lumanto edwin_luma...@yahoo.comwrote: Freak !!! USD/JPY bellow 80 is one big hell gate to chaos. u re taunting right ? -- *From:* It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, October 16, 2009 9:20:32 *Subject:* Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING. * Well I don't ask you to dump it, I was just saying that USD is weakening, perhaps until USDJPY 50. Would you hold USD? I'm definitely not. Cheap dollar is a pain for china as they have the biggest USD reserve in the world.* *But no worry lah, I know you only think about BUMI. hee hee* -- New Email names for you! http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/aa/mail/domainchoice/mail/signature/*http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/aa/ Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. Hurry before someone else does!
Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING.
*that's unoffcial, but it's true that fort knox hasn't been audited for like 50 years so it could be true. And if turns to be true, then it's worse than we thought... :(((* On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Contrarian Investor indonesianprivateinvest...@yahoo.co.id wrote: I beg to differ miss sui,, while I agree to which the Fed wouldn't too enthusiastic in rasing interest rates like the OZ CB did.. I sincerely hard to accept the US is the largest above ground gold owners any longer now.. Those statistics the WGC produces, it's not entirely factual.. I presume the BRIC boys especially India and China are now the largest above ground gold in the world.. The US probably don't own much gold no more now.. Most of the Gold hedgefunders I met, shares the same thinking too lately... --- Pada *Jum, 16/10/09, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com* menulis: Dari: It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com Judul: Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING. Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Jumat, 16 Oktober, 2009, 10:14 PM *Well I dunno, if fed raise int rate then usd may rebound, but I dunno. Why would the Fed endorse strong dollar policy if it only benefits China? If I have huge debt, I want the underlying currency to be as low as it can be (and my reserve as high as possible aka gold) US holds the most gold in the world. Weak dollar will make US exports goods and services cheap, more competitive and attractive than to its Asian counterparts'. Like I said, even though prices (in USD) may skyrocket, it's actually a deflation, because of its rapid losses in value. You may see, in 1-2 years, there will be a lot of foreigners walking in your backyard, looking (stealing) your job. Indonesia will import a lot more of goods, from raw sugar to prostitutes, because of its strong currency. Again, only IF the fed doesn't raise int rate. Elaine** * On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:05 PM, edwin lumanto edwin_lumanto@ yahoo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=edwin_luma...@yahoo.com wrote: Freak !!! USD/JPY bellow 80 is one big hell gate to chaos. u re taunting right ? -- *From:* It's Elaine! elainesui83@ gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=elainesu...@gmail.com *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, October 16, 2009 9:20:32 *Subject:* Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING. * Well I don't ask you to dump it, I was just saying that USD is weakening, perhaps until USDJPY 50. Would you hold USD? I'm definitely not. Cheap dollar is a pain for china as they have the biggest USD reserve in the world.* *But no worry lah, I know you only think about BUMI. hee hee* -- New Email names for you! http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/aa/mail/domainchoice/mail/signature/*http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/aa/ Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. Hurry before someone else does! -- Akses email lebih cepat. http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/ Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis)http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/
Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING.
*Start learning mandarin now..* On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 1:01 PM, anrusing data anru.s...@gmail.com wrote: so, what is your best suggestion then? 2009/10/18 It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *that's unoffcial, but it's true that fort knox hasn't been audited for like 50 years so it could be true. And if turns to be true, then it's worse than we thought... :(((* On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Contrarian Investor indonesianprivateinvest...@yahoo.co.id wrote: I beg to differ miss sui,, while I agree to which the Fed wouldn't too enthusiastic in rasing interest rates like the OZ CB did.. I sincerely hard to accept the US is the largest above ground gold owners any longer now.. Those statistics the WGC produces, it's not entirely factual.. I presume the BRIC boys especially India and China are now the largest above ground gold in the world.. The US probably don't own much gold no more now.. Most of the Gold hedgefunders I met, shares the same thinking too lately... --- Pada *Jum, 16/10/09, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com* menulis: Dari: It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com Judul: Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING. Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Jumat, 16 Oktober, 2009, 10:14 PM *Well I dunno, if fed raise int rate then usd may rebound, but I dunno. Why would the Fed endorse strong dollar policy if it only benefits China? If I have huge debt, I want the underlying currency to be as low as it can be (and my reserve as high as possible aka gold) US holds the most gold in the world. Weak dollar will make US exports goods and services cheap, more competitive and attractive than to its Asian counterparts'. Like I said, even though prices (in USD) may skyrocket, it's actually a deflation, because of its rapid losses in value. You may see, in 1-2 years, there will be a lot of foreigners walking in your backyard, looking (stealing) your job. Indonesia will import a lot more of goods, from raw sugar to prostitutes, because of its strong currency. Again, only IF the fed doesn't raise int rate. Elaine** * On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:05 PM, edwin lumanto edwin_lumanto@ yahoo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=edwin_luma...@yahoo.com wrote: Freak !!! USD/JPY bellow 80 is one big hell gate to chaos. u re taunting right ? -- *From:* It's Elaine! elainesui83@ gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=elainesu...@gmail.com *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, October 16, 2009 9:20:32 *Subject:* Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING. * Well I don't ask you to dump it, I was just saying that USD is weakening, perhaps until USDJPY 50. Would you hold USD? I'm definitely not. Cheap dollar is a pain for china as they have the biggest USD reserve in the world.* *But no worry lah, I know you only think about BUMI. hee hee* -- New Email names for you! http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/aa/mail/domainchoice/mail/signature/*http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/aa/ Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. Hurry before someone else does! -- Akses email lebih cepat. http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/ Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis)http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/
Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING.
*I didn't say this will happen, but it's possible. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051100709638419.html I'm not going to scare anyone or anything, just read it and share your thinking. Historically speaking, empires like Roman and Arab, even Han of China and Majaphait, that once the biggest and greatest, did fell eventually. The bigger they are, the harder they fall. As like a wise man has said 'History repeats itself'.. Elaine* On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 1:06 PM, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com wrote: *Start learning mandarin now..* On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 1:01 PM, anrusing data anru.s...@gmail.comwrote: so, what is your best suggestion then? 2009/10/18 It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *that's unoffcial, but it's true that fort knox hasn't been audited for like 50 years so it could be true. And if turns to be true, then it's worse than we thought... :(((* On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Contrarian Investor indonesianprivateinvest...@yahoo.co.id wrote: I beg to differ miss sui,, while I agree to which the Fed wouldn't too enthusiastic in rasing interest rates like the OZ CB did.. I sincerely hard to accept the US is the largest above ground gold owners any longer now.. Those statistics the WGC produces, it's not entirely factual.. I presume the BRIC boys especially India and China are now the largest above ground gold in the world.. The US probably don't own much gold no more now.. Most of the Gold hedgefunders I met, shares the same thinking too lately... --- Pada *Jum, 16/10/09, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com* menulis: Dari: It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com Judul: Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING. Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Jumat, 16 Oktober, 2009, 10:14 PM *Well I dunno, if fed raise int rate then usd may rebound, but I dunno. Why would the Fed endorse strong dollar policy if it only benefits China? If I have huge debt, I want the underlying currency to be as low as it can be (and my reserve as high as possible aka gold) US holds the most gold in the world. Weak dollar will make US exports goods and services cheap, more competitive and attractive than to its Asian counterparts'. Like I said, even though prices (in USD) may skyrocket, it's actually a deflation, because of its rapid losses in value. You may see, in 1-2 years, there will be a lot of foreigners walking in your backyard, looking (stealing) your job. Indonesia will import a lot more of goods, from raw sugar to prostitutes, because of its strong currency. Again, only IF the fed doesn't raise int rate. Elaine** * On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:05 PM, edwin lumanto edwin_lumanto@ yahoo.com http://mc/compose?to=edwin_luma...@yahoo.com wrote: Freak !!! USD/JPY bellow 80 is one big hell gate to chaos. u re taunting right ? -- *From:* It's Elaine! elainesui83@ gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=elainesu...@gmail.com *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, October 16, 2009 9:20:32 *Subject:* Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING. * Well I don't ask you to dump it, I was just saying that USD is weakening, perhaps until USDJPY 50. Would you hold USD? I'm definitely not. Cheap dollar is a pain for china as they have the biggest USD reserve in the world.* *But no worry lah, I know you only think about BUMI. hee hee* -- New Email names for you! http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/aa/mail/domainchoice/mail/signature/*http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/aa/ Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. Hurry before someone else does! -- Akses email lebih cepat. http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/ Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis)http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/
Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
*Oh, dear.. Art is going contrarian on himself..*.. 2009/10/15 It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com HEY... IS HE SELLING ALREADY ARTOO?!?!?!? 2009/10/15 charles_3983 charles_3...@yahoo.com yang hajar kanan bukan buaya tapi BANTENG KETATON :)) jadinya metode BK :) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Hans h...@... wrote: Berhunung yg hajar kanan bukan buaya jadi gak tahu mbah... Hehe... Canda Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone -Original Message- From: Embah jsx-consult...@... Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:16:10 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 Methode Bill William itu CONSERVATIVE jadi engga selalu gaya HAJAR KANAN, dengan konsekwensi ketinggalan kereta hehehe: Contoh yg lain: - BW menganjurkan area diatas buaya adalah untuk BUY dan area dibawah buaya untuk SHORT. Ini belum tentu benar tapi logikanya ada yaitu: MENINGKATKAN ODDS agar Trading lebih sering berhasil. - Jangan Buy jika harga ada DIDALAM mulut buaya meskipun Momentumnya naik, ini ternyata benar karena yang beli BUMI di 2900 pada hari Jumat lalu KENA DIMAKAN AMA BUAYA (turun ke 2775) , udah tahu ada didalam mulut buaya DIHAJAR KANAN juga... hehehe... _ From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of artomoro9 Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:54 AM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Bls: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 hajar kanan mbah...!!! regards, A9 BUMI ontheway 4000..! --- Pada Kam, 15/10/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... menulis: Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... Judul: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM BUMI: Technical 11:30 http://www.obrolanb http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbumi.png andar.com/piwbumi.png - BUMI sudah menembus garis coklat dan Mulut Buaya (3 colored line) dan membentuk SubWave 3 - Momentum is Up (green AO Momentum) - Buy on LOWER Black Diamond signal as long as BUMI is above the alligator (BOW on Buy Fractal) - Support/Cut Loss: Brown Circle + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links (Yahoo! ID required) _ Terhubung http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/messenger/pingbox/mailtagline/*http://id.messenge r.yahoo.com/pingbox/ langsung dengan banyak teman di blog dan situs pribadi Anda? Buat Pingbox terbaru Anda sekarang! + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I
*don't say that, they'll hate you..* 2009/10/21 iching_prediction iching_predict...@yahoo.com kupret...sesi 2 nanti kayaknya makin turun...beware of the dark lord --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, artomoro9 artomo...@... wrote: hehehe. kalo ane bilang DEAL ijo, ntar ente kaga dapat barang. diemin aja dulu. perhatikan terus. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andre...@... menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andre...@... Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:27 AM Om arto kasih bumi ijo hari ini deal ga? From: artomoro9 artomo...@... To: ob obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:22:07 AM Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I  maaf. maksudnya gak dikasih di bawah garis itu. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:20 AM Maksudnya mau dibawa ke garis merah atau mau ikut beli di garis merah ? DEAL nya ga jelas -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:16:46 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [ob] B U M I DEAL...!! regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Judul: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 10:52 AM     Garis merah merupakan area nyopet…., let see om BD berani masuk daerah itu ngga…, silahkan Om… J  JT         Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat.. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ Akses email lebih cepat. Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis) Selalu bisa chat di profil jaringan, blog, atau situs web pribadi! Yahoo! memungkinkan Anda selalu bisa chat melalui Pingbox. Coba! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi
*Wow it took 3 months for this one to be avail to public?* On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sanjaya mysanjaya...@gmail.com wrote: -- *From: *Sonny John sonny.j...@e-samuel.com *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:17:40 +0700 *Subject: *FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Please see latest GS research on ASEAN Metals and Mining (Coal), and on Bumi and Adaro. *Stock GS Rating Current Px * *12 Month Target Px ** * *Bumi Resources (BUMI.IJ)**Sell**Idr **2,850 **Idr **2,300 * *Adaro (ADRO.IJ) **Buy **Idr **1,510 ** Idr **2,800* ** *Key Summary Points:-* · * **Rising oil prices are positive for coal equities* Historically, thermal coal prices have been highly correlated to oil prices (88% over the past 10 years), and so have coal stock prices (87% correlated since 2003). We are positive on the outlook for oil, and last month we raised our 2010E and 2011E oil price forecasts to US$90/bbl and US$110/bbl, respectively, on stronger demand projections (our report from September 24, 2009, “Global: Energy: Oil—Recovery and relapse, v2”). · * **No major supply destruction, some projects nearing completion* Despite the downturn, there has not been any major reduction in thermal coal capex and in fact several projects are nearing completion. Australia’s new third coal port terminal (NCIG) is expected to ship first coal in early 2010E, with a full ramp-up by 2011 (representing a 30% expansion in export capacity). Meanwhile, we estimate that Indonesian coal producers may increase capacity by 40% by year-end 2010E. Our global thermal coal supply-demand estimates indicate that the supply surplus in 2009E is likely to narrow in 2010E due to stronger demand, but it is still in surplus. · * **Coal price upcycle may lag oil, initiate with neutral stance* Given our positive view on oil prices, we are forecasting higher thermal coal prices over 2009E-2011E. However, with a stronger supply availability of coal, we believe that the coal price cycle may lag oil. Currently thermal coal prices are 20% of oil on an energy-equivalent basis, which is below the historical average of 26% (the historical range is 14%-51%). On an annual average basis we see coal as a percentage of oil declining from 25% in 2009E to 17% in 2011E. We are initiating coverage on the sector with a neutral stance. · * **Stock selective approach; Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi* Adaro is our top pick, given attractive valuations and a strong earnings growth trend as its low-priced legacy contracts expire. Meanwhile, we rate Bumi Resources as Sell due to rising capital costs, its increasing debt load and declining ROIC. We initiate on Straits Asia and Bukit Asam at Neutral. · * **Risks* Upside risks to our views and price targets include a disruption in the global coal supply chain (e.g., from bad weather, port congestion) causing coal prices to spike or China coal demand being stronger than we expect; downside risks include China’s small mines restarting operations. - *Latest Research* ASEAN Metals Mining Coal 21 OCt.pdf Goldman, Sachs Co. Member SIPC/NASD. CONFIDENTIALITY: The information contained in or attached to this electronic transmission is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you are not the named recipient, you are hereby notified that any distribution, copying, review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this electronic transmission or the information contained in it is strictly prohibited. The information expressed herein may contain the private views and opinions of the sender that does not constitute the formal views and opinions of PT. Danareksa (Persero) and its subsidiaries, and should not in any ways be construed as the views, offers, or acceptances of these entities, unless specifically stated. PT. Danareksa (Persero) and its subsidiaries does not take any responsibilities nor accepts any claims of liabilities and/or damages for statements which are clearly the sender's own and not made on behalf of the entities concerned.
Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi
*I think so. Selling up to 2800? [?]* On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:46 PM, troyan troyan...@yahoo.com wrote: itu karena dia mau jualan ADRO yang udah beli dr 3 bulan lalu dan mau beli BUMI --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, It's Elaine! elainesu...@... wrote: *Wow it took 3 months for this one to be avail to public?* On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sanjaya mysanjaya...@... wrote: -- *From: *Sonny John sonny.j...@... *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:17:40 +0700 *Subject: *FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi Please see latest GS research on ASEAN Metals and Mining (Coal), and on Bumi and Adaro. *Stock GS Rating Current Px * *12 Month Target Px ** * *Bumi Resources (BUMI.IJ)**Sell**Idr **2,850 **Idr **2,300 * *Adaro (ADRO.IJ) **Buy **Idr **1,510 ** Idr **2,800* ** *Key Summary Points:-* · * **Rising oil prices are positive for coal equities* Historically, thermal coal prices have been highly correlated to oil prices (88% over the past 10 years), and so have coal stock prices (87% correlated since 2003). We are positive on the outlook for oil, and last month we raised our 2010E and 2011E oil price forecasts to US$90/bbl and US$110/bbl, respectively, on stronger demand projections (our report from September 24, 2009, Global: Energy: Oil—Recovery and relapse, v2). · * **No major supply destruction, some projects nearing completion* Despite the downturn, there has not been any major reduction in thermal coal capex and in fact several projects are nearing completion. Australia's new third coal port terminal (NCIG) is expected to ship first coal in early 2010E, with a full ramp-up by 2011 (representing a 30% expansion in export capacity). Meanwhile, we estimate that Indonesian coal producers may increase capacity by 40% by year-end 2010E. Our global thermal coal supply-demand estimates indicate that the supply surplus in 2009E is likely to narrow in 2010E due to stronger demand, but it is still in surplus. · * **Coal price upcycle may lag oil, initiate with neutral stance* Given our positive view on oil prices, we are forecasting higher thermal coal prices over 2009E-2011E. However, with a stronger supply availability of coal, we believe that the coal price cycle may lag oil. Currently thermal coal prices are 20% of oil on an energy-equivalent basis, which is below the historical average of 26% (the historical range is 14%-51%). On an annual average basis we see coal as a percentage of oil declining from 25% in 2009E to 17% in 2011E. We are initiating coverage on the sector with a neutral stance. · * **Stock selective approach; Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi* Adaro is our top pick, given attractive valuations and a strong earnings growth trend as its low-priced legacy contracts expire. Meanwhile, we rate Bumi Resources as Sell due to rising capital costs, its increasing debt load and declining ROIC. We initiate on Straits Asia and Bukit Asam at Neutral. · * **Risks* Upside risks to our views and price targets include a disruption in the global coal supply chain (e.g., from bad weather, port congestion) causing coal prices to spike or China coal demand being stronger than we expect; downside risks include China's small mines restarting operations. - *Latest Research* ASEAN Metals Mining Coal 21 OCt.pdf Goldman, Sachs Co. Member SIPC/NASD. CONFIDENTIALITY: The information contained in or attached to this electronic transmission is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you are not the named recipient, you are hereby notified that any distribution, copying, review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this electronic transmission or the information contained in it is strictly prohibited. The information expressed herein may contain the private views and opinions of the sender that does not constitute the formal views and opinions of PT. Danareksa (Persero) and its subsidiaries, and should not in any ways be construed as the views, offers, or acceptances of these entities, unless specifically stated. PT. Danareksa (Persero) and its subsidiaries does not take any responsibilities nor accepts any claims of liabilities and/or damages for statements which are clearly the sender's own and not made on behalf of the entities concerned
Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I
*Oh dear don't be so cynical to him, he did a good job. We [?] general Artomoro9.* * * - Artomoro never shorts, he just stares at the exchange boards and all orders changed to sell orders - Only Artomoro can give bid to buy AAPL at IDX on Sunday, and gets them - In Artomoro's point of view, Warren Buffett is a changcuters - Artomoro never really have to buy stocks, coz every morning he poops stocks. Plus Warrants I love U ART. 2009/10/21 Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com I. Maksud hati memeluk gunung apa daya tangan tak sampai. Maksud hati membuat BUMI IJO apa daya kemampuan terbatas. Maksud hati menjual kepercayaan apa daya banyak yang tidak percaya pada BUMI. II. Maksud hati mencari Untung apa daya justru rugi yang didulang. Maksud hati stay-away dari BG stocks apa daya setiap hari saham-saham itu yang dibicarakan di BEI (OB milis). Maksud hati masuk ke sektor Riil apa daya peluang belum tercipta. Hehehesekedar menghibur diri dengan Prosa. (sudah cut-loss sebagian). Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. That everything changes is more hopeful than hopeless, because it means everyone can change for the better. -- *From: * artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:55:49 +0800 (SGT) *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I ijoo dah. regards, A9 --- Pada *Rab, 21/10/09, bad_boy aa.j...@gmail.com* menulis: Dari: bad_boy aa.j...@gmail.com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM JENDRALpasukan berani mati siyaaappp... tunggu perintah komandan tapi peluru dah abis, pake petasan cabe rawit ajah yah --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com, artomoro9 artomo...@... wrote: hehehe. kalo ane bilang DEAL ijo, ntar ente kaga dapat barang. diemin aja dulu. perhatikan terus. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andre...@... menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andre...@... Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:27 AM Om arto kasih bumi ijo hari ini deal ga? From: artomoro9 artomo...@... To: ob obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:22:07 AM Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I  maaf. maksudnya gak dikasih di bawah garis itu. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:20 AM Maksudnya mau dibawa ke garis merah atau mau ikut beli di garis merah ? DEAL nya ga jelas -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:16:46 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [ob] B U M I DEAL...!! regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Judul: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 10:52 AM     Garis merah merupakan area nyopet…., let see om BD berani masuk daerah itu ngga…, silahkan Om… J  JT         Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat.. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ Akses email lebih cepat. Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis) Selalu bisa chat di profil jaringan, blog, atau situs web pribadi! Yahoo! memungkinkan Anda selalu bisa chat melalui Pingbox. Coba! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links -- Apakah wajar artis ikut Pemilu? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers! B0C.gif
Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I
*NO. [?]* 2009/10/21 Wong Cilik gajahpelan...@gmail.com We love u too EL, U re so beautiful, U re so smart, U re also can build and prop up prices U have mega super duper unlimited funds Please pump some more money to increase our OB family's wealth... [?][?][?] 2009/10/21 It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *Oh dear don't be so cynical to him, he did a good job. We [?] general Artomoro9.* * * - Artomoro never shorts, he just stares at the exchange boards and all orders changed to sell orders - Only Artomoro can give bid to buy AAPL at IDX on Sunday, and gets them - In Artomoro's point of view, Warren Buffett is a changcuters - Artomoro never really have to buy stocks, coz every morning he poops stocks. Plus Warrants I love U ART. 2009/10/21 Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com I. Maksud hati memeluk gunung apa daya tangan tak sampai. Maksud hati membuat BUMI IJO apa daya kemampuan terbatas. Maksud hati menjual kepercayaan apa daya banyak yang tidak percaya pada BUMI. II. Maksud hati mencari Untung apa daya justru rugi yang didulang. Maksud hati stay-away dari BG stocks apa daya setiap hari saham-saham itu yang dibicarakan di BEI (OB milis). Maksud hati masuk ke sektor Riil apa daya peluang belum tercipta. Hehehesekedar menghibur diri dengan Prosa. (sudah cut-loss sebagian). Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. That everything changes is more hopeful than hopeless, because it means everyone can change for the better. -- *From: * artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:55:49 +0800 (SGT) *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I ijoo dah. regards, A9 --- Pada *Rab, 21/10/09, bad_boy aa.j...@gmail.com* menulis: Dari: bad_boy aa.j...@gmail.com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM JENDRALpasukan berani mati siyaaappp... tunggu perintah komandan tapi peluru dah abis, pake petasan cabe rawit ajah yah --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com, artomoro9 artomo...@... wrote: hehehe. kalo ane bilang DEAL ijo, ntar ente kaga dapat barang. diemin aja dulu. perhatikan terus. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre andre...@... menulis: Dari: Andre Andre andre...@... Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:27 AM Om arto kasih bumi ijo hari ini deal ga? From: artomoro9 artomo...@... To: ob obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:22:07 AM Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I  maaf. maksudnya gak dikasih di bawah garis itu. regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: ruzli...@gmail. com ruzli...@gmail. com Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I Kepada: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:20 AM Maksudnya mau dibawa ke garis merah atau mau ikut beli di garis merah ? DEAL nya ga jelas -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:16:46 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [ob] B U M I DEAL...!! regards, A9 --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Judul: [ob] B U M I Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 10:52 AM     Garis merah merupakan area nyopet…., let see om BD berani masuk daerah itu ngga…, silahkan Om… J  JT         Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat.. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ Akses email lebih cepat. Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis) Selalu bisa chat di profil jaringan, blog, atau situs web pribadi! Yahoo! memungkinkan Anda selalu bisa chat melalui Pingbox. Coba! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links -- Apakah wajar artis ikut Pemilu? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers! 338.gif814.gifB60.gifB0C.gif
Re: [ob] Re: Salam Kenal
*Sheila I SUGGEST YOU STAY AWAY FROM THE MARKET FOR NOW. Always look for discount. Elaine* 2009/10/22 sheila.tjandra sheila.tjan...@yahoo.com Hihi..kirim data2 pribadinya ke jsxtra...@..atau ke m457...@.? Thanks banget untuk semua anggota milis yang welcome banget.. Ok d, hari ini sudah maju tak gentar ke medan perang karena ditemani banyak buaya,musuh pasti takut..hehehe.. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz® m457...@... wrote: salam kenal juga :) semoga bisa lebih enjoy disini. Untuk keperluan database milis, sebaiknya lengkapi data2 pribadi spt alamat, no hape, dan foto terbaru. harap kirim secepatnya ke jsxtra...@... hehehe... 2009/10/21 Sheila Tjandra sheila.tjan...@... Hi..Salam kenal semuanya..Moga2 bisa dapat bimbingan dari para senior2 biar trading jadi lebih enjoy.. Cheerss.. + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] D O W
*It's better to say something -even if it misses- than not having a gut to say anything at all, mr commentator.* On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 9:29 AM, qasuari qasuar...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, It's Elaine! elainesu...@... wrote: *It's not yet, but It WILL be. I don't think nobody will be worried with this, in fact most will be happy to see a crash (like me doh) lolz.. Elaine** hehehe TUL EL, as also you said, OIL would go to $30/ barrel when the price at $50/$60 .??? qeqeqeq. + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] D O W
*3 months, since end of July. Thought u knew.* On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 9:19 AM, JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com wrote: Sounds desperate to me … lolz… Btw, how long have you been waiting for the correction, EL? …, Hmmm, don’t worry EL, you’ll get it soon…, sabar ya, Good Trade Comes to Those Who Wait…, hehehe….. JT *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *It's Elaine! *Sent:* 22 Oktober 2009 9:12 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [ob] D O W *It's not yet, but It WILL be. I don't think nobody will be worried with this, in fact most will be happy to see a crash (like me doh) lolz.. Elaine* On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 8:56 AM, JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com wrote: Do not worry too much, just a normal pull back. Nothing serious so far. JT
Re: [ob] Re: Salam Kenal --@ Elaine
*Ok, first I have some questions: * 1. *are you a follower, a Technicalist, Fundamentalist?* 2. *Why do you buy BUMI? Is it because you like coal industry? why not others like Adaro or Bukit Asam?* 3. *Do you know what MA cross is? distribution? accumulation? over bought? support? resistance? blah blah * 4. *Do you know how far does 19% CIC int rate will affect bumi future cash flow?* 5. *Do you aware of fund flow in bumi? The reverse repos? the floating phantom shares? * 6. *BUMI financial statement is in USD, do you aware with the inflation of the USD today? * *Please answer, and I will give you appropriate opinion, but if above questions make you dizzy then I suggest u stay away. * 2009/10/22 sheila.tjandra sheila.tjan...@yahoo.com Elaine, how about BUMI? i bought it yesterday.It's discount already,right? could u please sharing ur opinion ? Thanks Regards --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, It's Elaine! elainesu...@... wrote: *Sheila I SUGGEST YOU STAY AWAY FROM THE MARKET FOR NOW. Always look for discount. Elaine* 2009/10/22 sheila.tjandra sheila.tjan...@... Hihi..kirim data2 pribadinya ke jsxtra...@... ke m457...@? Thanks banget untuk semua anggota milis yang welcome banget.. Ok d, hari ini sudah maju tak gentar ke medan perang karena ditemani banyak buaya,musuh pasti takut..hehehe.. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz® m4573rz@ wrote: salam kenal juga :) semoga bisa lebih enjoy disini. Untuk keperluan database milis, sebaiknya lengkapi data2 pribadi spt alamat, no hape, dan foto terbaru. harap kirim secepatnya ke jsxtrader@ hehehe... 2009/10/21 Sheila Tjandra sheila.tjandra@ Hi..Salam kenal semuanya..Moga2 bisa dapat bimbingan dari para senior2 biar trading jadi lebih enjoy.. Cheerss.. + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks
*This should answer Boyz' question to me days ago. The money has been going nowhere, stucks on the 'safest' instruments such as CDs, gold and bonds. * On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:10 AM, dunia ini indah pusatdu...@yahoo.comwrote: More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks Published: October 22, 2009 According to some estimates, investors have parked more than $3,000,000,000,000.00 - that's three trillion dollars - in money market funds waiting for the markets to calm down before jumping back into the game. Of course, some make the argument that if things return to normal, that tremendous liquidity would come roaring back in, making a faster recovery possible. Still, by recent standards, that amount is staggering and local investment adviser Todd Stoner said that big round number might entice investors off the sidelines and back into the market end of this year. Investors have long been bracing for a significant pullback. But any retreats in stocks have been modest -- less than 10 percent -- and brief. The market continues to feed on its own momentum. I think what's happened is you had all these people sitting on the sidelines waiting for the correction to come, said Peter Schwartz, principal at Gregory J. Schwartz Co. But as time goes by and we haven't had any major pullbacks, these people sitting on the sidelines are finally pulling the trigger, saying, 'I can't wait any longer.' According to The Institute's Board of Governors sets Institute policies and oversees ICI activities As this link shows : http://www.ici.org/research/stats/mmf/mm_09_24_09 There is about $3.5 to 4 Trillion sitting in money market funds collecting less than 1% in interest. This is as of a month ago. People are just scared and do the opposite of what they are supposed to do, which is to buy when stocks fall. Instead of loading up in the last few months on equities, which were selling at generational low price ratios, investors instead piled into bonds, CDs and Gold + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] Re: Salam Kenal
*I have no target at this moment, perhaps JT or any techies can help you.* 2009/10/22 Kaisar macrore...@yahoo.com Miss Elaine, Your command is loud and clear. Do you have any target number for IHSG? And what stocks you will pick when the time has come? Kaisar. -- *From:* It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thu, October 22, 2009 9:14:12 AM *Subject:* Re: [ob] Re: Salam Kenal *Sheila I SUGGEST YOU STAY AWAY FROM THE MARKET FOR NOW. Always look for discount. Elaine* 2009/10/22 sheila.tjandra sheila.tjandra@ yahoo.comsheila.tjan...@yahoo.com Hihi..kirim data2 pribadinya ke jsxtra...@.. atau ke m457...@ .? Thanks banget untuk semua anggota milis yang welcome banget.. Ok d, hari ini sudah maju tak gentar ke medan perang karena ditemani banyak buaya,musuh pasti takut..hehehe. . --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz® m457...@... wrote: salam kenal juga :) semoga bisa lebih enjoy disini. Untuk keperluan database milis, sebaiknya lengkapi data2 pribadi spt alamat, no hape, dan foto terbaru. harap kirim secepatnya ke jsxtra...@.. . hehehe... 2009/10/21 Sheila Tjandra sheila.tjandra@ ... Hi..Salam kenal semuanya..Moga2 bisa dapat bimbingan dari para senior2 biar trading jadi lebih enjoy.. Cheerss.. - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks
*Actually I don't know that, yet. Ok, first let me ask you.. * - *Why investor buy stocks?* On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:20 AM, highwaysta...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, and waiting to get back in...at a discount. Right, El? Sent from my computer of course! -- *From: * It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *Date: *Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:17:20 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks *This should answer Boyz' question to me days ago. The money has been going nowhere, stucks on the 'safest' instruments such as CDs, gold and bonds. * On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:10 AM, dunia ini indah pusatdu...@yahoo.comwrote: More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks Published: October 22, 2009 According to some estimates, investors have parked more than $3,000,000,000,000.00 - that's three trillion dollars - in money market funds waiting for the markets to calm down before jumping back into the game. Of course, some make the argument that if things return to normal, that tremendous liquidity would come roaring back in, making a faster recovery possible. Still, by recent standards, that amount is staggering and local investment adviser Todd Stoner said that big round number might entice investors off the sidelines and back into the market end of this year. Investors have long been bracing for a significant pullback. But any retreats in stocks have been modest -- less than 10 percent -- and brief. The market continues to feed on its own momentum. I think what's happened is you had all these people sitting on the sidelines waiting for the correction to come, said Peter Schwartz, principal at Gregory J. Schwartz Co. But as time goes by and we haven't had any major pullbacks, these people sitting on the sidelines are finally pulling the trigger, saying, 'I can't wait any longer.' According to The Institute's Board of Governors sets Institute policies and oversees ICI activities As this link shows : http://www.ici.org/research/stats/mmf/mm_09_24_09 There is about $3.5 to 4 Trillion sitting in money market funds collecting less than 1% in interest. This is as of a month ago. People are just scared and do the opposite of what they are supposed to do, which is to buy when stocks fall. Instead of loading up in the last few months on equities, which were selling at generational low price ratios, investors instead piled into bonds, CDs and Gold + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] Re: Salam Kenal --@ Elaine
*I'm not trying to scare anyone. Trading is better for now, and to trade you need good understanding of TA, that's all I can say.* ^_^ On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:30 AM, qasuari qasuar...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, It's Elaine! elainesu...@... wrote: *Ok, first I have some questions: * 1. *are you a follower, a Technicalist, Fundamentalist?* 2. *Why do you buy BUMI? Is it because you like coal industry? why not others like Adaro or Bukit Asam?* 3. *Do you know what MA cross is? distribution? accumulation? over bought? support? resistance? blah blah * 4. *Do you know how far does 19% CIC int rate will affect bumi future cash flow?* 5. *Do you aware of fund flow in bumi? The reverse repos? the floating phantom shares? * 6. *BUMI financial statement is in USD, do you aware with the inflation of the USD today? * *Please answer, and I will give you appropriate opinion, but if above questions make you dizzy then I suggest u stay away. * WOOOW..you scare me out of my wits EL ..bb... + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] D O W ......ehh sorry .....B O W ...!!!
*I'll take that chance. ^_^ Anyway, what will you buy, dear?* On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:58 AM, qasuari qasuar...@yahoo.com wrote: anybody wanna cheap stock ??? BUY (BOW) now or you may lose ur chance ... + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] Re: Salam Kenal --@ Elaine
*I gave up on commods 3 months ago. Enough for me. ^_^ HEY, you've made huge profit already, enjoy it. * On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Constantine lfc...@yahoo.co.id wrote: And I need your opinion if I buy my portofolio last December 2008 and still hold it until now. Should I sell it all?Or Hold it? Most of my portofolio in commodities... + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks
*I see you focus on microeconomic which is good for stockpicking, I put more emphasis on the macro such as currency, supply-demand, money flow and others like insiders, etc, coz even good ones like Astras can drop like shit when the money's out. [?]* On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.com wrote: because (or when) it offers higher yield (after risk adjustment) compares to other asset classes. to measure our yield on investment, we might have our own favorite preferences. i personally prefer : a. Comparable or higher sustainable free cash flow yield i may expect from my stock 3-5 years period Vs Bond. b. Understated Hard Assets sitting on the balance, Ripe for acquisition or un-locking scenario. c. Solid Bussiness model that can counter inflationary effect (passing through the inflatianary pressures to their consumers without losing the sales volume and growth), because virtually a good and solid stock is the only effective real-hedge against inflation. because they can adjust prices of their sales to go in line with inflation, hence higher net income, hence higher real measure income. how bout u El? i have to say ive been curious, pardon my question, if u were sitting on the hat of an investor, what traits would u prefer of ur holdings/ur stocks? ^_^ On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:24 AM, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.comwrote: *Actually I don't know that, yet. Ok, first let me ask you.. * - *Why investor buy stocks?* On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:20 AM, highwaysta...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, and waiting to get back in...at a discount. Right, El? Sent from my computer of course! -- *From: * It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *Date: *Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:17:20 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks *This should answer Boyz' question to me days ago. The money has been going nowhere, stucks on the 'safest' instruments such as CDs, gold and bonds. * On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:10 AM, dunia ini indah pusatdu...@yahoo.comwrote: More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks Published: October 22, 2009 According to some estimates, investors have parked more than $3,000,000,000,000.00 - that's three trillion dollars - in money market funds waiting for the markets to calm down before jumping back into the game. Of course, some make the argument that if things return to normal, that tremendous liquidity would come roaring back in, making a faster recovery possible. Still, by recent standards, that amount is staggering and local investment adviser Todd Stoner said that big round number might entice investors off the sidelines and back into the market end of this year. Investors have long been bracing for a significant pullback. But any retreats in stocks have been modest -- less than 10 percent -- and brief. The market continues to feed on its own momentum. I think what's happened is you had all these people sitting on the sidelines waiting for the correction to come, said Peter Schwartz, principal at Gregory J. Schwartz Co. But as time goes by and we haven't had any major pullbacks, these people sitting on the sidelines are finally pulling the trigger, saying, 'I can't wait any longer.' According to The Institute's Board of Governors sets Institute policies and oversees ICI activities As this link shows : http://www.ici.org/research/stats/mmf/mm_09_24_09 There is about $3.5 to 4 Trillion sitting in money market funds collecting less than 1% in interest. This is as of a month ago. People are just scared and do the opposite of what they are supposed to do, which is to buy when stocks fall. Instead of loading up in the last few months on equities, which were selling at generational low price ratios, investors instead piled into bonds, CDs and Gold + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links -- Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact, everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”. - Richard Feynman 1B2.gif
Re: [ob] Re: BUMI--@ Elaine
*TA? okay, Boyz, she's yours [?]* On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:08 AM, sheila.tjandra sheila.tjan...@yahoo.comwrote: Wow..what a scary questions,two thumbs up for u.. I'm a new bie technicalist n that's why i want to learn from master technicalist in OB. Why BUMI? already at support i think..almost all trader have BUMI in their portfolio. About Fundamental, no..no..i dont know,Need to learn more from u. Regards, ST --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, It's Elaine! elainesui83@ wrote: *Ok, first I have some questions: * 1. *are you a follower, a Technicalist, Fundamentalist?* 2. *Why do you buy BUMI? Is it because you like coal industry? why not others like Adaro or Bukit Asam?* 3. *Do you know what MA cross is? distribution? accumulation? over bought? support? resistance? blah blah * 4. *Do you know how far does 19% CIC int rate will affect bumi future cash flow?* 5. *Do you aware of fund flow in bumi? The reverse repos? the floating phantom shares? * 6. *BUMI financial statement is in USD, do you aware with the inflation of the USD today? * *Please answer, and I will give you appropriate opinion, but if above questions make you dizzy then I suggest u stay away. * + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links 333.gif
Re: [ob] Re: Salam Kenal
*Hope u're ok, Sheila.[?] Elaine* 2009/10/22 It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *Sheila I SUGGEST YOU STAY AWAY FROM THE MARKET FOR NOW. Always look for discount. Elaine* 2009/10/22 sheila.tjandra sheila.tjan...@yahoo.com Hihi..kirim data2 pribadinya ke jsxtra...@..atau ke m457...@.? Thanks banget untuk semua anggota milis yang welcome banget.. Ok d, hari ini sudah maju tak gentar ke medan perang karena ditemani banyak buaya,musuh pasti takut..hehehe.. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz® m457...@... wrote: salam kenal juga :) semoga bisa lebih enjoy disini. Untuk keperluan database milis, sebaiknya lengkapi data2 pribadi spt alamat, no hape, dan foto terbaru. harap kirim secepatnya ke jsxtra...@... hehehe... 2009/10/21 Sheila Tjandra sheila.tjan...@... Hi..Salam kenal semuanya..Moga2 bisa dapat bimbingan dari para senior2 biar trading jadi lebih enjoy.. Cheerss.. + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links 33D.gif
Re: [ob] Re: Etrading Running Rate LELET....
*Someone has a plan on B7, if I remember correctly.* On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 2:09 PM, charles_3983 charles_3...@yahoo.comwrote: ini keterlaluan... harga dijatohin dengan cepat sekali... it looks like someone do it intentionally to accumulate HAJAR --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote: ISP nya diganggu supaya LELET INI TAL BANGET SERBU --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vernichtung gambler.bej@ wrote: Wedew telat deh, pasang di 2600 gak dapat.. 2009/10/22 tora kopitorabika@ Mbah gimana nih... your command, please + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] Re: Etrading Running Rate LELET....
*Yeah, I bought a chicken pizza and a milkshake for lunch today.* 2009/10/22 highwaysta...@gmail.com U bought anything today EL? Sent from my computer of course! -- *From: * It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *Date: *Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:10:47 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] Re: Etrading Running Rate LELET *Someone has a plan on B7, if I remember correctly.* On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 2:09 PM, charles_3983 charles_3...@yahoo.comwrote: ini keterlaluan... harga dijatohin dengan cepat sekali... it looks like someone do it intentionally to accumulate HAJAR --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote: ISP nya diganggu supaya LELET INI TAL BANGET SERBU --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vernichtung gambler.bej@ wrote: Wedew telat deh, pasang di 2600 gak dapat.. 2009/10/22 tora kopitorabika@ Mbah gimana nih... your command, please + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] Re: Etrading Running Rate LELET....
*The plan is to make money without money. Ah, nevermind. Just trade what you believe lah.. [?]* 2009/10/22 beckham_...@yahoo.com Ms, bearish or bullish plan? Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -- *From: * It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *Date: *Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:10:47 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] Re: Etrading Running Rate LELET *Someone has a plan on B7, if I remember correctly.* On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 2:09 PM, charles_3983 charles_3...@yahoo.comwrote: ini keterlaluan... harga dijatohin dengan cepat sekali... it looks like someone do it intentionally to accumulate HAJAR --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote: ISP nya diganggu supaya LELET INI TAL BANGET SERBU --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vernichtung gambler.bej@ wrote: Wedew telat deh, pasang di 2600 gak dapat.. 2009/10/22 tora kopitorabika@ Mbah gimana nih... your command, please + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links 364.gif
Re: [ob] Re: BNBR Miss EL
*Yeah, 5 l...@80. Dec 09 we sell all and donate to Embah.* On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 2:42 PM, phoenix.siver phoenix.si...@yahoo.comwrote: Miss EL, How is the BNBR donation prog. is it still inline. Can u share some clues?? Thanks Rgds, Vera --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, It's Elaine! elainesu...@... wrote: *Someone has a plan on B7, if I remember correctly.* On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 2:09 PM, charles_3983 charles_3...@...wrote: ini keterlaluan... harga dijatohin dengan cepat sekali... it looks like someone do it intentionally to accumulate HAJAR --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ wrote: ISP nya diganggu supaya LELET INI TAL BANGET SERBU --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vernichtung gambler.bej@ wrote: Wedew telat deh, pasang di 2600 gak dapat.. 2009/10/22 tora kopitorabika@ Mbah gimana nih... your command, please + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] Last gebukan
*Institusi semua sell, JT Arto buy? wow.. very brave men.* 2009/10/22 JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com Hah, close 2650, gut lak everyone.. banyak2 berdoalah malam ini..., hehehe Ngupi-ngupi duluuu JT -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of charles_3983 Sent: 22 Oktober 2009 15:57 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Last gebukan hehehe ok d Prof.. ane coba tawar 1 point deh... kalo dapet ya bagus... ga dapet berarto BD ga sayang ama ane :)) wakakkaa --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JT jsxtra...@... wrote: Masih bisa..., kalo mau jebol dari tadi aja lah..., Bungkusss... -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of charles_3983 Sent: 22 Oktober 2009 15:43 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Last gebukan Last gebukan today is coming? Prof JT, copet lagi? + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ Individual Email | Traditional http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) mailto:obrolan-bandar-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.25/2450 - Release Date: 10/21/09 16:44:00
Re: [ob] Last gebukan
*Will you tell us when you get out? either tp or cl.* On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 4:17 PM, JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com wrote: Institusi Sell apa SHORT? Hehe Well, ini bukan masalah brave-brave'an lah.., it's just about trading, I calculate and get in, if I'am wrong, I get out..., as simple as that, you see, we are superior when it comes to SPEED.., we can always get out at once.., beda dgn institusi seperti kamu EL.., exit is a big problem for you.. Hehe.. Powered by TLKM BullBerry® “ Good Trade Comes To Those Who Wait “ -- *From: * It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *Date: *Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:06:12 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] Last gebukan *Institusi semua sell, JT Arto buy? wow.. very brave men.* 2009/10/22 JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com Hah, close 2650, gut lak everyone.. banyak2 berdoalah malam ini..., hehehe Ngupi-ngupi duluuu JT -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of charles_3983 Sent: 22 Oktober 2009 15:57 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Last gebukan hehehe ok d Prof.. ane coba tawar 1 point deh... kalo dapet ya bagus... ga dapet berarto BD ga sayang ama ane :)) wakakkaa --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JT jsxtra...@... wrote: Masih bisa..., kalo mau jebol dari tadi aja lah..., Bungkusss... -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of charles_3983 Sent: 22 Oktober 2009 15:43 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Last gebukan Last gebukan today is coming? Prof JT, copet lagi? + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ Individual Email | Traditional http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) mailto:obrolan-bandar-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.25/2450 - Release Date: 10/21/09 16:44:00
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*Is it going to happen today?*
Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750)
*Adaro is much better in management, quality of products, output, and GCG.* 2009/10/23 boyz® m457...@gmail.com Go go go ... We stand behind you ... in vertical horizon :D Salam, 2009/10/23 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id cuman di samperin tapi belom di jebolin. giliran ane nih sekarang.. regards, A9 --- Pada *Jum, 23/10/09, Bayu Kusuma bayu_kusuma_wardh...@yahoo.com*menulis: Dari: Bayu Kusuma bayu_kusuma_wardh...@yahoo.com Judul: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750) Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Jumat, 23 Oktober, 2009, 9:42 AM jendral...lg disamperin tuh 2575 --- On *Thu, 10/22/09, artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id* wrote: From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id Subject: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750) To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 10:24 PM cuman kalo barikade ane 2575 ini hari jebol, ane short sekalian ke 1700. regards, A9 --- Pada *Jum, 23/10/09, boyz® m457...@gmail. com* menulis: Dari: boyz® m457...@gmail. com Judul: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750) Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Jumat, 23 Oktober, 2009, 9:19 AM Thanks Jenderal Ane juga liat BUMI ada potensi ke 4000 in longer term... Tapi sekarang kita bicara ttg cycle (scoope) yg lebih kecil, Good luck, bro. 2009/10/23 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id insting ane akan lewat di atas itu. tap bisa aja insting ini jadi benar atau salah . target SELL ane masih di 4000. Btw : gue udah di tabokin orang sekampong OB nih... tapi kalo ini hari jebol 2575 ane CL. suer. regards, A9 -- Lebih aman saat online. Upgrade ke Internet Explorer 8 baru dan lebih cepathttp://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! agar Anda merasa lebih aman. Gratis. Dapatkan IE8 di sini!http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/ -- Coba Yahoo! Messenger 10 Beta yang baru http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/messenger/neptune/*http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/ Kini dengan update real-time, panggilan video, dan banyak lagi!
Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750)
*http://www.mail-archive.com/obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com/msg169316.html Ho ho.. we have something in common.*.. On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:19 AM, boyz® m457...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/10/23 It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *Adaro is much better in management, quality of products, output, and GCG.* Sure honey... http://www.mail-archive.com/obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com/msg175543.html bisa jadi ADRO Better, but right now we talk about market sentimen, BUMI masih key psycho market di IDX. Kemarin jendral Arto ga mau diajak main ke ADRO. Salam,
Re: Trs: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750)
*Adaro BUMI.* 2009/10/23 Kabu Nusi megasho...@yahoo.com Congrats General Salam, --- On *Fri, 10/23/09, artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id* wrote: From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id Subject: Trs: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750) To: ob obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 23, 2009, 8:36 AM --- Pada *Jum, 23/10/09, artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id* menulis: Dari: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id Judul: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750) Kepada: artomo...@gmail.com Tanggal: Jumat, 23 Oktober, 2009, 3:35 PM alhamdulillah. gak jadi cut loss di 2575. thanks GOD. regards, A9 --- Pada *Jum, 23/10/09, artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id* menulis: Dari: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id Judul: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750) Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Jumat, 23 Oktober, 2009, 9:06 AM insting ane akan lewat di atas itu. tap bisa aja insting ini jadi benar atau salah . target SELL ane masih di 4000. Btw : gue udah di tabokin orang sekampong OB nih... tapi kalo ini hari jebol 2575 ane CL. suer. regards, A9 --- Pada *Jum, 23/10/09, boyz® m457...@gmail.com* menulis: Dari: boyz® m457...@gmail.com Judul: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750) Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Jumat, 23 Oktober, 2009, 8:53 AM On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:15 AM, Cougar Boy boysngi...@gmail.com wrote: Mbah...simple aja nih... kalau dari chart yang dikasih embah...*kelihatan sekali TP BUMI hari ini di 2750..* Let's see sampai atau tidak Gimana Jend. Arto? DEAL? Provide your soldiers higher land, and make disembarking plan going smooth. master I-ching udah kasih sinyal : 2009/10/23 iching_prediction iching_predict...@yahoo.com today, sell on strength, naik trus turun Good Luck, brothers... Salam, -- Akses email lebih cepat. http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/ Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis)http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/ -- Coba Yahoo! Messenger 10 Beta yang baru http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/messenger/neptune/*http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/ Kini dengan update real-time, panggilan video, dan banyak lagi! -- Lebih Bersih, Lebih Baik, Lebih Cepat - Rasakan Yahoo! Mail baru yang Lebih Cepat hari ini! http://id.mail.yahoo.com
Re: Trs: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750)
*Adaro +6.5% Bumi +3.7% Ok, ok.. you're right then. lolz..* 2009/10/23 Bozz Traders powerman.tra...@gmail.com *You are WRONG, Adro Bumi is right !!!* * * -- *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *It's Elaine! *Sent:* Friday, October 23, 2009 3:54 PM *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: Trs: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750) *Adaro BUMI.* 2009/10/23 Kabu Nusi megasho...@yahoo.com Congrats General Salam, --- On *Fri, 10/23/09, artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id* wrote: From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id Subject: Trs: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750) To: ob obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 23, 2009, 8:36 AM --- Pada *Jum, 23/10/09, artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id* menulis: Dari: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id Judul: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750) Kepada: artomo...@gmail.com Tanggal: Jumat, 23 Oktober, 2009, 3:35 PM alhamdulillah. gak jadi cut loss di 2575. thanks GOD. regards, A9 --- Pada *Jum, 23/10/09, artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id* menulis: Dari: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id Judul: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750) Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Jumat, 23 Oktober, 2009, 9:06 AM insting ane akan lewat di atas itu. tap bisa aja insting ini jadi benar atau salah . target SELL ane masih di 4000. Btw : gue udah di tabokin orang sekampong OB nih... tapi kalo ini hari jebol 2575 ane CL. suer. regards, A9 --- Pada *Jum, 23/10/09, boyz® m457...@gmail.com* menulis: Dari: boyz® m457...@gmail.com Judul: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750) Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Jumat, 23 Oktober, 2009, 8:53 AM On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:15 AM, Cougar Boy boysngi...@gmail.com wrote: Mbah...simple aja nih... kalau dari chart yang dikasih embah...*kelihatan sekali TP BUMI hari ini di 2750..* Let's see sampai atau tidak Gimana Jend. Arto? DEAL? Provide your soldiers higher land, and make disembarking plan going smooth. master I-ching udah kasih sinyal : 2009/10/23 iching_prediction iching_predict...@yahoo.com today, sell on strength, naik trus turun Good Luck, brothers... Salam, -- Akses email lebih cepat. http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A/downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/ Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis)http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A/downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/ -- Coba Yahoo! Messenger 10 Beta yang baru http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/messenger/neptune/*http:/id.messenger.yahoo.com/ Kini dengan update real-time, panggilan video, dan banyak lagi! -- Lebih Bersih, Lebih Baik, Lebih Cepat - Rasakan Yahoo! Mail baru yang Lebih Cepat hari ini! http://id.mail.yahoo.com
Re: [ob] milis ob
*Wait, are you still confident with 4000? I mean, REALLY confident?* 2009/10/23 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id ini emang milis paling dahsyat. semua kumpul disini. salute ama embah yg udah bikin ini milis. embah emang sengaja mengundang semua INFORMAN dan inforwoman MUncul di sini, dengan semua kepentingannya. pokoke ini milis paling MAknyuzz.. havaaniceweekend..! regards, A9 -- Buat sendiri desain eksklusif Messenger Pingbox Anda sekarang! http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/messenger/pingbox/mailtagline/*http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/ Membuat tempat chat pribadi di blog Anda sekarang sangatlah mudah
Re: [ob] milis ob
*You work at the exchange? wow, cool.. no wonder you have 1st class info.* 2009/10/23 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id yup. ngopi ngopi dulu yuk. ane tungguin di starbuck BEI. sekarang ya. regards, A9 --- Pada *Jum, 23/10/09, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com* menulis: Dari: It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com Judul: Re: [ob] milis ob Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Jumat, 23 Oktober, 2009, 4:45 PM *Wait, are you still confident with 4000? I mean, REALLY confident?* 2009/10/23 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.idhttp://mc/compose?to=artomo...@yahoo.co.id ini emang milis paling dahsyat. semua kumpul disini. salute ama embah yg udah bikin ini milis. embah emang sengaja mengundang semua INFORMAN dan inforwoman MUncul di sini, dengan semua kepentingannya. pokoke ini milis paling MAknyuzz.. havaaniceweekend..! regards, A9 -- Buat sendiri desain eksklusif Messenger Pingbox Anda sekarang! http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/messenger/pingbox/mailtagline/*http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/ Membuat tempat chat pribadi di blog Anda sekarang sangatlah mudah -- Pemanasan global? Apa sih itu? http://id.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AjO3kFB4MH9t8_Wg.IsJRzLtRgx.;_ylv=3?qid=20080916002637AALjeQI Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers!
Re: [ob] US declares swine flu 'emergency'
*Most swine flu victims are children and young adults. For parents I suggest to always keep an eye on your children, if they catch flu even it's mild, please.. PLEASE take them to the doctor immediately and ask for nasopharyngeal lab test, it's better safe than sorry. Let's live a healthy life. Drink a lot of water, consume Vitamin C, have enough rest and expose yourself under the sun in the morning. * On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 6:34 PM, highwaysta...@gmail.com wrote: New resurgence or media play? Tp di jepang mmg membesar lg ya kasusnya pak Yuta? Kowai... Sent from my computer of course! -- *From: * YUTA yuta.tizi...@gmail.com *Date: *Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:53:40 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *[ob] US declares swine flu 'emergency' Saturday, 24 October 2009 17:36 UK US declares swine flu 'emergency' US President Barack Obama has declared swine flu a national emergency. The White House said the president signed the proclamation concerning the 2009 H1N1 outbreak on Friday evening. It increases the ability of treatment facilities to handle a surge in H1N1 patients by easing the implementation of emergency plans. Last week US officials said swine flu activity was widespread in 46 states. More than 1,000 US deaths have been linked to the virus. Health officials say the infections are already comparable to peak season flu levels. Vaccine warning US officials said the president's declaration was similar to ones issued before hurricanes make landfall. It allows authorities to bypass certain federal requirements in order to deal more effectively with emergencies. The aim of the directive is to remove bureaucratic hurdles, allowing sick patients to receive treatment more quickly and giving health-care providers more flexibility in providing it. Paperwork on patients can be reduced and additional health centres set up outside hospitals to care for the sick. In his proclamation statement, Mr Obama says the 2009 H1N1 pandemic continues to evolve. The rates of illness continue to rise rapidly within many communities across the nation, and the potential exists for the pandemic to overburden health care resources in some localities. He said the US had already taken proactive steps by implementing public health measures and developing an effective swine flu vaccine. However, the government has admitted there are delays in the delivery of vaccines. It had hoped to roll out 120 million doses by mid-October. It now hopes for about 50 million by mid-November and 150 million in December. Dr Thomas Frieden, of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), said on Friday: We are nowhere near where we thought we'd be by now. Given the shortfall, New York State on Friday stayed a directive ordering health care staff to be inoculated or risk losing their jobs. The CDC says widespread influenza activity in 46 states is unprecedented during seasonal flu. It said the hospitalisation rates for laboratory-confirmed swine flu were still climbing. Although figures are hard to verify, it is thought H1N1 has hospitalised about 20,000 people in the US. Visits to the doctor for influenza-like illnesses were also much higher than expected for the time of year, the CDC said. The seasonal flu peak is usually between late November and early March. Children and young adults have been among the hardest hit by H1N1. Almost 100 of the deaths have been children. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8324070.stm
Re: [ob] Re: Pesan buat para BANDAR yang GOBLOK...!!!
*Asshole.* 2009/10/26 Muhamad Rojak muhamad.ma...@gmail.com Gw nyangkut di Bumi? For your information, gw udah collect Bumi di price 700-an, trus begitu ada sinyal naek, gw buy lagi di 900-an dan 1200-an. Sebagian udah gw jual di 3000-an, sebagian masih gw keep. Nah, kalo ITMG emang udah gw jual semua. Udah profit gede dapet deviden plus capital gain (buy di 23.000-an, sell di 24.000-an) ngapain juga gw keep lagi. Kaaacciiaann deh lu... :-D Pada tanggal 26/10/09, EB™ edbami...@gmail.com menulis: Nyangkut berat kali aja prof, Bumi memang banyak bikin orang cuan tapi kayaknya lebih banyak bikin orang nyangkut terlilit-lilit.hehehehhe Regards, EB™ Dikirim oleh kurir yang bernama Blackberry melalui jaringan XL yang Error teruss!!! Sebel dechhh.. -Original Message- From: JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:59:32 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Pesan buat para BANDAR yang GOBLOK...!!! Heran pade ngeribut bumi aje, emang ade ape sih? Bukannya minggu depan mau naik... :) Powered by TLKM BullBerry® “ Good Trade Comes To Those Who Wait “ -Original Message- From: ARRAY27 arra...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 23:54:34 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Pesan buat para BANDAR yang GOBLOK...!!! Gimana kalau nanti para MI-nya ikutan ngeshort? Pada 25 Oktober 2009 21:59, Muhamad Rojak muhamad.ma...@gmail.com menulis: Buat para Bandar yg goblok, silakan aja elo short Bumi. Dijamin, elo pasti jadi gembel yg cuma pake underwear doang, trus nongkrong di kolong jembatan! Elo kira Pemerintah dan para Manajer Investasi bakal diem aja kalo Bumi dishort terus? Tentu mereka akan terus menjaga Bumi, supaya indeks tetep stabil! Dasar bego, emang susah deh...!!! On 10/22/09, iching_prediction iching_predict...@yahoo.comiching_prediction%40yahoo.com wrote: ikutan serbu...he..he..ampe november ok --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote: 13:53 IHSG 2426, SERBU MARKET -50 IHSG akan rebound -- Dikirim dari perangkat seluler saya + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] Re: Running trade macet ya?
*I'm waiting..* [?][?][?][?][?][?][?] 2009/10/26 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id kalo ane short adaro, buy BUMI asyik kali ya. regards, A9 --- Pada *Sen, 26/10/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com* menulis: Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com Judul: RE: [ob] Re: Running trade macet ya? Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Cc: jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Senin, 26 Oktober, 2009, 9:56 AM YES, ane ikut Mbah.., terserah orang mau bilang apa ttg BUMI, ini trading, bukan beli perusahaan.., hehe.. JT -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of icchanks Sent: 26 Oktober 2009 9:47 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Re: Running trade macet ya? Beneran Mbah?? Tapi masih nunggu di 2.600 neh GMn dunk, Prof JT n Jend. Arto are u in? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote: Ini TAL lagi Ayo serbu lagi IHSG -5, BUMI 2725-2750 + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ Individual Email | Traditional http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) mailto:obrolan-bandar-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.32/2459 - Release Date: 10/25/09 19:57:00 -- Yahoo! Mail Kini Lebih Cepat dan Lebih Bersih. Rasakan bedanya sekarang!http://id.mail.yahoo.com 342.gif
Re: [ob] MISTERI group Bakrie.....Re: BUY BNBR dekat 109
*I read somewhere, that the most profitable trades (I forgot, either said by Buffett or someone else) were made from buying on crashes. We all want profit so let it crash..lolz..* 2009/10/26 boyz® m457...@gmail.com Sip mBah... Mudah2an ada yg mau tekan ke 109 kan semakin keras tekanannya nanti melejitnya semakin mantul keatas, katanya Prof. JT Because of that, mudah2an BNBR bisa bikin new high sebelum end of this year. Salam, 2009/10/26 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id The underlying structure of the market is the Elliott Wave kata si Bill dalam bukunya teori Chaos... Jadi untuk mengerti gerakan market dan gerakan group Bakrie yg BERBEDA kita ngarus mengerti Underlying structurenya. Kalau kita liat EW overall market dan EW broup Bakrie maka terlihat perbedaan yg SANGAT MENONJOL pada group Bakrie yaitu rata2 saham group Bakrie ada pada Corretion Wave 4 (embah bilang ini lagi DISHORT ama BD) Kejadian MIRIP INI sudah pernah terjadi pada thn 2008, pada saat itu ketika OVERALL MARKET melemah maka Saham group Bakrie memasuki UPTREND IMPULSE WAVE 5. Apakah ini terulang lagi pada thn 2009 ?. Dari segi logika bandarmologi BOZZ, ini adalah sangat mungkin... Kita liat saja apa yg akan terjadi --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote: BUY BNBR dekat 109 http://www.obrolanbandar.com/pwlbnbr.png + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] MISTERI group Bakrie.....Re: BUY BNBR dekat 109
*I dunno. How should I get out?* On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:06 AM, JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com wrote: So why did you go for ADRO which is near its highest ever then?? Lolz…. you ask for crash but you buy at high…, how do you get out with that kind of SIZE when the market crash as you wish? Hmmm… JT *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *It's Elaine! *Sent:* 26 Oktober 2009 11:01 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [ob] MISTERI group Bakrie.Re: BUY BNBR dekat 109 *I read somewhere, that the most profitable trades (I forgot, either said by Buffett or someone else) were made from buying on crashes. We all want profit so let it crash..lolz..* 2009/10/26 boyz® m457...@gmail.com Sip mBah... Mudah2an ada yg mau tekan ke 109 kan semakin keras tekanannya nanti melejitnya semakin mantul keatas, katanya Prof. JT Because of that, mudah2an BNBR bisa bikin new high sebelum end of this year. Salam, 2009/10/26 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id The underlying structure of the market is the Elliott Wave kata si Bill dalam bukunya teori Chaos... Jadi untuk mengerti gerakan market dan gerakan group Bakrie yg BERBEDA kita ngarus mengerti Underlying structurenya. Kalau kita liat EW overall market dan EW broup Bakrie maka terlihat perbedaan yg SANGAT MENONJOL pada group Bakrie yaitu rata2 saham group Bakrie ada pada Corretion Wave 4 (embah bilang ini lagi DISHORT ama BD) Kejadian MIRIP INI sudah pernah terjadi pada thn 2008, pada saat itu ketika OVERALL MARKET melemah maka Saham group Bakrie memasuki UPTREND IMPULSE WAVE 5. Apakah ini terulang lagi pada thn 2009 ?. Dari segi logika bandarmologi BOZZ, ini adalah sangat mungkin... Kita liat saja apa yg akan terjadi --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote: BUY BNBR dekat 109 http://www.obrolanbandar.com/pwlbnbr.png + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.32/2459 - Release Date: 10/25/09 19:57:00
Re: [ob] BUMI...kok berat ya..... ( to : mbah )
*Perhaps they need cash to back Recapital on Berau Coal, rumor said. Please confirm to Artomoro Bakrie himself...* 2009/10/26 sangattangguh johnramosbutarbu...@yahoo.com mohon maaf bukan bermaksud menghasut nih... saya perhatikan kok...sepertinya bumi berat banget ngangkatnya. pemain2 besar udah pada keluar dan belum masuk lagi... sedangkan bandarnya kayaknya kehabisan bensin nih Apakah betul mohon tanggapannya mbah + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] bumi ADa ROket..
*Make money without money, right? [?]* 2009/10/26 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id jam 15.32 bumi -0.9 % adro -1.85% ane short lagi ya adro nya. mayan lah, buat belanja bumi. boleh kan. (no offense ya) regards, A9 -- Coba Yahoo! Mail baru yang LEBIH CEPAT. Rasakan bedanya sekarang! http://id.mail.yahoo.com 343.gif
Re: [ob] BUMI mohon komando. Utk : Mbah, Jen Arto, Prof JT
*karena uang habis di ambil retailer like JT... llollzz.. * 2009/10/27 Dumb Fish dumbfish2...@yahoo.com Sesepuh, minta petunjuk nih... pasukan udah bingung, bentar lagi kucar kacir. Apakah BUMI akan turun dibawah 2575 ? Jen Arto belakangan kok jarang nendang ke Utara yah :( Thanks
Re: Trs: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750)
*Have you sold ur BUMI, Art? or are you going to short to 1700?* 2009/10/23 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id --- Pada *Jum, 23/10/09, artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id* menulis: Dari: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id Judul: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750) Kepada: artomo...@gmail.com Tanggal: Jumat, 23 Oktober, 2009, 3:35 PM alhamdulillah. gak jadi cut loss di 2575. thanks GOD. regards, A9 --- Pada *Jum, 23/10/09, artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id* menulis: Dari: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id Judul: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750) Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Jumat, 23 Oktober, 2009, 9:06 AM insting ane akan lewat di atas itu. tap bisa aja insting ini jadi benar atau salah . target SELL ane masih di 4000. Btw : gue udah di tabokin orang sekampong OB nih... tapi kalo ini hari jebol 2575 ane CL. suer. regards, A9 --- Pada *Jum, 23/10/09, boyz® m457...@gmail.com* menulis: Dari: boyz® m457...@gmail.com Judul: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750) Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Jumat, 23 Oktober, 2009, 8:53 AM On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:15 AM, Cougar Boy boysngi...@gmail.com wrote: Mbah...simple aja nih... kalau dari chart yang dikasih embah...*kelihatan sekali TP BUMI hari ini di 2750..* Let's see sampai atau tidak Gimana Jend. Arto? DEAL? Provide your soldiers higher land, and make disembarking plan going smooth. master I-ching udah kasih sinyal : 2009/10/23 iching_prediction iching_predict...@yahoo.com today, sell on strength, naik trus turun Good Luck, brothers... Salam, -- Akses email lebih cepat. http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/ Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis)http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/ -- Coba Yahoo! Messenger 10 Beta yang baru http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/messenger/neptune/*http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/ Kini dengan update real-time, panggilan video, dan banyak lagi! -- Lebih Bersih, Lebih Baik, Lebih Cepat - Rasakan Yahoo! Mail baru yang Lebih Cepat hari ini! http://id.mail.yahoo.com
Re: [ob] Re: BUMI- Buaya lagi lapar Utk : Mbah, Jen Arto, Prof JT
*WHOA LADY!!! Didn't you see my email? BOYZ, didn't you tell her? omg no no no.. this isn't happening..* 2009/10/27 sheila.tjandra sheila.tjan...@yahoo.com Mbah..BUMI bijimane ya? buayanya lagi rakus nih, diembat semua..ampunnn -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 02:38:16 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Re: BUMI mohon komando. Utk : Mbah, Jen Arto, Prof JT Tenang aja --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dumb Fish dumbfish2004@ wrote: Sesepuh, minta petunjuk nih... pasukan udah bingung, bentar lagi kucar kacir. Apakah BUMI akan turun dibawah 2575 ? Jen Arto belakangan kok jarang nendang ke Utara yah :( Thanks + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] BAKRIE : HIGH RISK NO GAIN
*You're right, they won't return.* [?] On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com wrote: I am at the POINT of NO RETURN. No cut-loss for BUMI and BNBR for now. Kalau BUMI turun sampai 1700 dan BNBR sampai 80, ane akan average down. May all of us be FREE from suffering and losses. Regards, Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give. -- *From: * Vernichtung gambler@gmail.com *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:05:15 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] BAKRI : HIGH RISK NO GAIN Kalo nutupnya pas 5 detik terakhir bisa nggak sempet loh cabut hari ini. BD kan mainnya bisa kasar. 2009/10/27 ekonombel...@yahoo.com Bnbr 100, dewa 175. Bismillah, kl close dbawahnya, ane cabut. Ok, lunch dululah. :) Ekonom kok Mbeling sends this from his BlackBerry® -- 1B2.gif
Re: [ob] Prof JT !
*Kamu kasih kursus to Tasrul, perhaps he can learn something from you. ^_^* 2009/10/27 JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com Wadew.., ngga baca posting saya sebelumnya Pak? Saya udh out loh.., ngga ngebungkus apa2. Saya dah full cash lagi... Powered by TLKM BullBerry® “ Good Trade Comes To Those Who Wait “ -- *From: * Marselinus Sujoko ms_joli2...@yahoo.co.id *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:46:23 +0800 (SGT) *To: *milisobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *[ob] Prof JT ! di tunggu instruksinya prof, bungkus? Tq -- Lebih aman saat online. Upgrade ke Internet Explorer 8 baru dan lebih cepathttp://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! agar Anda merasa lebih aman. Gratis. Dapatkan IE8 di sini!http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/
Re: [ob] Prof JT !
*Statistically speaking JT's method of trading is far superior than anybody else in this group. So we have to learn from him, even if you feel you're good.* 2009/10/27 highwaysta...@gmail.com Are you trying to say anything dear? Can u elaborate more pse? Tks. Sent from my computer of course! -- *From: * It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:23:13 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] Prof JT ! *Kamu kasih kursus to Tasrul, perhaps he can learn something from you. ^_^ * 2009/10/27 JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com Wadew.., ngga baca posting saya sebelumnya Pak? Saya udh out loh.., ngga ngebungkus apa2. Saya dah full cash lagi... Powered by TLKM BullBerry® “ Good Trade Comes To Those Who Wait “ -- *From: * Marselinus Sujoko ms_joli2...@yahoo.co.id *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:46:23 +0800 (SGT) *To: *milisobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *[ob] Prof JT ! di tunggu instruksinya prof, bungkus? Tq -- Lebih aman saat online. Upgrade ke Internet Explorer 8 baru dan lebih cepathttp://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! agar Anda merasa lebih aman. Gratis. Dapatkan IE8 di sini!http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/
Re: [ob] Prof JT !
*You never be good coz that's what you wish for. [?] Personally I'm impressed with JT, a natural born leader.* On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 4:32 PM, highwaysta...@gmail.com wrote: Ah...yes. Well, I am never good anyway so I will learn from anybody :) Sent from my computer of course! -- *From: * It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:29:42 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] Prof JT ! *Statistically speaking JT's method of trading is far superior than anybody else in this group. So we have to learn from him, even if you feel you're good.* 2009/10/27 highwaysta...@gmail.com Are you trying to say anything dear? Can u elaborate more pse? Tks. Sent from my computer of course! -- *From: * It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:23:13 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] Prof JT ! *Kamu kasih kursus to Tasrul, perhaps he can learn something from you. ^_^* 2009/10/27 JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com Wadew.., ngga baca posting saya sebelumnya Pak? Saya udh out loh.., ngga ngebungkus apa2. Saya dah full cash lagi... Powered by TLKM BullBerry® “ Good Trade Comes To Those Who Wait “ -- *From: * Marselinus Sujoko ms_joli2...@yahoo.co.id *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:46:23 +0800 (SGT) *To: *milisobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *[ob] Prof JT ! di tunggu instruksinya prof, bungkus? Tq -- Lebih aman saat online. Upgrade ke Internet Explorer 8 baru dan lebih cepathttp://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! agar Anda merasa lebih aman. Gratis. Dapatkan IE8 di sini!http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/ 330.gif
Re: [ob] Prof JT !
*Aduh mas Tasrul handsome, maaf Elaine cuma bercanda. Kamu juga bercanda sering, nanti ane beli juga DEWA kalau USD stable ya.. ^_^ * On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:18 PM, tasru...@yahoo.com wrote: Kekekek, ada yg bisa seting di BB atau yahoo mail kalau email dari EL lansung auto delete gak ? Ganggu banget nih(Wah ntar ane dibilangin anak kecil juga nih he he) Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -- *From: * Joe Martin milis.s4...@gmail.com *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:58:46 + *To: *Obobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] Prof JT ! Yah si El cuma segitu doank biasanya?? Payah juga yah, cuma delete dari FB mah anak kecil juga bisa *pi El... Mindik2 lalu kaboe -- *From: * Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:52:51 + *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] Prof JT ! You start teasing pak Tasrul nah entar kalau dibalas jangan upset ya? Don't take him out from your Face book, OK?. Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give. -- *From: * It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:23:13 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] Prof JT ! *Kamu kasih kursus to Tasrul, perhaps he can learn something from you. ^_^ * 2009/10/27 JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com Wadew.., ngga baca posting saya sebelumnya Pak? Saya udh out loh.., ngga ngebungkus apa2. Saya dah full cash lagi... Powered by TLKM BullBerry® “ Good Trade Comes To Those Who Wait “ -- *From: * Marselinus Sujoko ms_joli2...@yahoo.co.id *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:46:23 +0800 (SGT) *To: *milisobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *[ob] Prof JT ! di tunggu instruksinya prof, bungkus? Tq -- Lebih aman saat online. Upgrade ke Internet Explorer 8 baru dan lebih cepathttp://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! agar Anda merasa lebih aman. Gratis. Dapatkan IE8 di sini!http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/
[ob] My comment on OB
*It seems like the psychology in OB is very different than 2008. Today everyone is pretty well prepared, emotionally stable, and more resilient to market shocks. I personally give thanks to all contributors, especially to Embah, JT, Tasrul, Kang Ocoy and all great members in OB. I learn a lot from them. Unlike in 2008 where many ppl were unprepared, now everyone seems pretty calm and optimistic. I love it. I'm also very impressed and glad that OB community has evolved. It's an achievement. Elaine** *
Re: [ob] My comment on OB
*Let's kill the bears... * On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:49 PM, fifi young fifiyoun...@gmail.com wrote: Elaine also has changed. a significant changes actually... from an untamed female tiger to a titi...mimid rabbit, hahaha... * just kidding * On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Lucky Trader soluckytra...@gmail.comwrote: Bisa share arah idx til end Y09 ? What your view on B7?, any change on your early projection especially on BNBR? -LT On 10/27/09, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.comelainesui83%40gmail.com wrote: *It seems like the psychology in OB is very different than 2008. Today everyone is pretty well prepared, emotionally stable, and more resilient to market shocks. I personally give thanks to all contributors, especially to Embah, JT, Tasrul, Kang Ocoy and all great members in OB. I learn a lot from them. Unlike in 2008 where many ppl were unprepared, now everyone seems pretty calm and optimistic. I love it. I'm also very impressed and glad that OB community has evolved. It's an achievement. Elaine** *
Re: [ob] My comment on OB
*Elaine juga boleh trading, right..?* [?] On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:55 PM, jku...@yahoo.com wrote: Wah...ada apa nich. Koq tiba2 ganti haluan? Salam, Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -- *From: * It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:50:19 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] My comment on OB *Let's kill the bears... * On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:49 PM, fifi young fifiyoun...@gmail.com wrote: Elaine also has changed. a significant changes actually... from an untamed female tiger to a titi...mimid rabbit, hahaha... * just kidding * On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Lucky Trader soluckytra...@gmail.comwrote: Bisa share arah idx til end Y09 ? What your view on B7?, any change on your early projection especially on BNBR? -LT On 10/27/09, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.comelainesui83%40gmail.com wrote: *It seems like the psychology in OB is very different than 2008. Today everyone is pretty well prepared, emotionally stable, and more resilient to market shocks. I personally give thanks to all contributors, especially to Embah, JT, Tasrul, Kang Ocoy and all great members in OB. I learn a lot from them. Unlike in 2008 where many ppl were unprepared, now everyone seems pretty calm and optimistic. I love it. I'm also very impressed and glad that OB community has evolved. It's an achievement. Elaine** * 338.gif
Re: [ob] My comment on OB
*Whatever... [?]* On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:10 PM, tasru...@yahoo.com wrote: Hmm...apa lagi digertak Dow yg lagi naik dan udah belajar TA ? Sabar ya ... Dow nya masih jingkrak jingkrak, kita lihat closingnya aja. Bobok ah... Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -- *From: * jku...@yahoo.com *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:55:36 + *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] My comment on OB Wah...ada apa nich. Koq tiba2 ganti haluan? Salam, Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -- *From: * It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:50:19 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] My comment on OB *Let's kill the bears... * On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:49 PM, fifi young fifiyoun...@gmail.com wrote: Elaine also has changed. a significant changes actually... from an untamed female tiger to a titi...mimid rabbit, hahaha... * just kidding * On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Lucky Trader soluckytra...@gmail.comwrote: Bisa share arah idx til end Y09 ? What your view on B7?, any change on your early projection especially on BNBR? -LT On 10/27/09, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.comelainesui83%40gmail.com wrote: *It seems like the psychology in OB is very different than 2008. Today everyone is pretty well prepared, emotionally stable, and more resilient to market shocks. I personally give thanks to all contributors, especially to Embah, JT, Tasrul, Kang Ocoy and all great members in OB. I learn a lot from them. Unlike in 2008 where many ppl were unprepared, now everyone seems pretty calm and optimistic. I love it. I'm also very impressed and glad that OB community has evolved. It's an achievement. Elaine** * 360.gif
Re: [ob] My comment on OB
*I wish I can learn TA, but it's really irrelevant to my strategy. I didn't say it's trivial, TA is important but not my main concern.* On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:23 PM, jku...@yahoo.com wrote: Silahkan miss Elaine yg cantik, kita selalu welcome sama yg mau tarik maupun yg nge short. Tapi belajar dulu TA nya ya Salam, Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -- *From: * It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:01:02 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] My comment on OB *Elaine juga boleh trading, right..?* [?] On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:55 PM, jku...@yahoo.com wrote: Wah...ada apa nich. Koq tiba2 ganti haluan? Salam, Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -- *From: * It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:50:19 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] My comment on OB *Let's kill the bears... * On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:49 PM, fifi young fifiyoun...@gmail.comwrote: Elaine also has changed. a significant changes actually... from an untamed female tiger to a titi...mimid rabbit, hahaha... * just kidding * On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Lucky Trader soluckytra...@gmail.comwrote: Bisa share arah idx til end Y09 ? What your view on B7?, any change on your early projection especially on BNBR? -LT On 10/27/09, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.comelainesui83%40gmail.com wrote: *It seems like the psychology in OB is very different than 2008. Today everyone is pretty well prepared, emotionally stable, and more resilient to market shocks. I personally give thanks to all contributors, especially to Embah, JT, Tasrul, Kang Ocoy and all great members in OB. I learn a lot from them. Unlike in 2008 where many ppl were unprepared, now everyone seems pretty calm and optimistic. I love it. I'm also very impressed and glad that OB community has evolved. It's an achievement. Elaine** * 338.gif
Re: [ob] My comment on OB
*Sayang sekali tadi banyak member cut loss ya oh well but that's okay, stick to your trading plan or whatever. Just trade what you believe. I hope dow will close red tonight so Elaine yangkut juga ... lolz.. some ppl really want me to have that! evil!*[?] On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:38 PM, ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id wrote: Dear Elaine... I'm support to you. Thank you. Mwuaach. Kobayashi. --- Sent with System SEVEN - the new generation of mobile messaging -- pesan orisinal -- Subyek: Re: [ob] My comment on OB Dari: fifi young fifiyoun...@gmail.com Tanggal: 27-10-2009 22.32 Horeee...! El has changed to become a Trader...! Welcome to the Jungle...! On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:52 PM, EB™ edbami...@gmail.com wrote: Ye.ELlet's kick them out... Regards, EB™ -- *From: * It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:50:19 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] My comment on OB *Let's kill the bears... * On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:49 PM, fifi young fifiyoun...@gmail.com wrote: Elaine also has changed. a significant changes actually... from an untamed female tiger to a titi...mimid rabbit, hahaha... * just kidding * On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Lucky Trader soluckytra...@gmail.com wrote: Bisa share arah idx til end Y09 ? What your view on B7?, any change on your early projection especially on BNBR? -LT On 10/27/09, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.comelainesui83% 40gmail.com wrote: *It seems like the psychology in OB is very different than 2008. Today everyone is pretty well prepared, emotionally stable, and more resilient to market shocks. I personally give thanks to all contributors, especially to Embah, JT, Tasrul, Kang Ocoy and all great members in OB. I learn a lot from them. Unlike in 2008 where many ppl were unprepared, now everyone seems pretty calm and optimistic. I love it. I'm also very impressed and glad that OB community has evolved. It's an achievement. Elaine** * + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links 338.gif
Re: [ob] My comment on OB
*Ok, what TA tells you today?* On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:40 PM, boyz® m457...@gmail.com wrote: Learn not always mean mastering. IMHO, you don't have to mastering TA, just understand it. Banyak kok yang mau bantu ajarin Elaine to learning it. Just open your mind. Salam, On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:30 PM, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.comwrote: *I wish I can learn TA, but it's really irrelevant to my strategy. I didn't say it's trivial, TA is important but not my main concern.* On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:23 PM, jku...@yahoo.com wrote: Silahkan miss Elaine yg cantik, kita selalu welcome sama yg mau tarik maupun yg nge short. Tapi belajar dulu TA nya ya Salam, Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -- *From: * It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:01:02 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] My comment on OB *Elaine juga boleh trading, right..?* [?] On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:55 PM, jku...@yahoo.com wrote: Wah...ada apa nich. Koq tiba2 ganti haluan? Salam, Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -- *From: * It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:50:19 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] My comment on OB *Let's kill the bears... * On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:49 PM, fifi young fifiyoun...@gmail.comwrote: Elaine also has changed. a significant changes actually... from an untamed female tiger to a titi...mimid rabbit, hahaha... * just kidding * On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Lucky Trader soluckytra...@gmail.com wrote: Bisa share arah idx til end Y09 ? What your view on B7?, any change on your early projection especially on BNBR? -LT On 10/27/09, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.comelainesui83%40gmail.com wrote: *It seems like the psychology in OB is very different than 2008. Today everyone is pretty well prepared, emotionally stable, and more resilient to market shocks. I personally give thanks to all contributors, especially to Embah, JT, Tasrul, Kang Ocoy and all great members in OB. I learn a lot from them. Unlike in 2008 where many ppl were unprepared, now everyone seems pretty calm and optimistic. I love it. I'm also very impressed and glad that OB community has evolved. It's an achievement. Elaine** * 338.gif
Re: [ob] My comment on OB
*lolz kamu lebih pelit dari Elaine yaaa.. ha ha ha [?] well my reason is I was expecting a dollar shock (it happened yesterday), market was temporarily afraid if fed gonna raise int rate but i believe they wont do it as the there is not much growth in the us plus the unemployment causes major problem on the consumer demand. If they pull the liquidity out of the market, we're going to see a prolonged recession, business will stop and it will be bad for the recovery. Plus Obama's $900 billion medicare plan may trigger another money printing, so I bet the dollar will stay low for sometime, perhaps until next year. Sorry if this doesn't make sense to you.* On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:51 PM, katrin kusu...@gmail.com wrote: Blom belanja tadi..kalo besok naek ya udah..ntar lagi juga diskon.. -- *From: * It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:42:34 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] My comment on OB *Sayang sekali tadi banyak member cut loss ya oh well but that's okay, stick to your trading plan or whatever. Just trade what you believe. I hope dow will close red tonight so Elaine yangkut juga ... lolz.. some ppl really want me to have that! evil!*[?] On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:38 PM, ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id wrote: Dear Elaine... I'm support to you. Thank you. Mwuaach. Kobayashi. --- Sent with System SEVEN - the new generation of mobile messaging -- pesan orisinal -- Subyek: Re: [ob] My comment on OB Dari: fifi young fifiyoun...@gmail.com Tanggal: 27-10-2009 22.32 Horeee...! El has changed to become a Trader...! Welcome to the Jungle...! On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:52 PM, EB™ edbami...@gmail.com wrote: Ye.ELlet's kick them out... Regards, EB™ -- *From: * It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.com *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:50:19 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] My comment on OB *Let's kill the bears... * On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:49 PM, fifi young fifiyoun...@gmail.com wrote: Elaine also has changed. a significant changes actually... from an untamed female tiger to a titi...mimid rabbit, hahaha... * just kidding * On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Lucky Trader soluckytra...@gmail.com wrote: Bisa share arah idx til end Y09 ? What your view on B7?, any change on your early projection especially on BNBR? -LT On 10/27/09, It's Elaine! elainesu...@gmail.comelainesui83% 40gmail.com wrote: *It seems like the psychology in OB is very different than 2008. Today everyone is pretty well prepared, emotionally stable, and more resilient to market shocks. I personally give thanks to all contributors, especially to Embah, JT, Tasrul, Kang Ocoy and all great members in OB. I learn a lot from them. Unlike in 2008 where many ppl were unprepared, now everyone seems pretty calm and optimistic. I love it. I'm also very impressed and glad that OB community has evolved. It's an achievement. Elaine** * + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links 338.gif360.gif
Re: [ob] My comment on OB
*Well, to be honest, it's kinda hard and seems they wont make it in December* On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 11:02 PM, phoenix.siver phoenix.si...@yahoo.comwrote: Cici EL, I wanna ask u something. Is it still on track the TP for BNBR n MNC group as a Christmas present ? Rgds, Vera --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, It's Elaine! elainesu...@... wrote: *Sayang sekali tadi banyak member cut loss ya oh well but that's okay, stick to your trading plan or whatever. Just trade what you believe. I hope dow will close red tonight so Elaine yangkut juga ... lolz.. some ppl really want me to have that! evil!*[?] On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:38 PM, ueno_kobaya...@... ueno_kobaya...@... wrote: Dear Elaine... I'm support to you. Thank you. Mwuaach. Kobayashi. --- Sent with System SEVEN - the new generation of mobile messaging -- pesan orisinal -- Subyek: Re: [ob] My comment on OB Dari: fifi young fifiyoun...@... Tanggal: 27-10-2009 22.32 Horeee...! El has changed to become a Trader...! Welcome to the Jungle...! On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:52 PM, EB™ edbami...@... wrote: Ye.ELlet's kick them out... Regards, EB™ -- *From: * It's Elaine! elainesu...@... *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:50:19 +0700 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject: *Re: [ob] My comment on OB *Let's kill the bears... * On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:49 PM, fifi young fifiyoun...@... wrote: Elaine also has changed. a significant changes actually... from an untamed female tiger to a titi...mimid rabbit, hahaha... * just kidding * On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Lucky Trader soluckytra...@... wrote: Bisa share arah idx til end Y09 ? What your view on B7?, any change on your early projection especially on BNBR? -LT On 10/27/09, It's Elaine! elainesu...@...elainesui83% 40gmail.com wrote: *It seems like the psychology in OB is very different than 2008. Today everyone is pretty well prepared, emotionally stable, and more resilient to market shocks. I personally give thanks to all contributors, especially to Embah, JT, Tasrul, Kang Ocoy and all great members in OB. I learn a lot from them. Unlike in 2008 where many ppl were unprepared, now everyone seems pretty calm and optimistic. I love it. I'm also very impressed and glad that OB community has evolved. It's an achievement. Elaine** * + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] Thank U yg hari ini udah CUT LOST! EMANG ENAK JADI GEMBEL!
*Let's kill the 7 bears.. are you with me, Art?* [?] 2009/10/28 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id sabar ya bro JT. orang sabar di hajar bandar... (== kalo yg ini beneran becanda..) regards, A9 (masih ada hari esok) --- Pada *Rab, 28/10/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com* menulis: Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com Judul: Re: [ob] Thank U yg hari ini udah CUT LOST! EMANG ENAK JADI GEMBEL! Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 28 Oktober, 2009, 7:54 AM Haha.., ini kang rujak bawel aje.., nyangkut berat boss? Atau cuannya udh diminta balik sama BD? ti-ati keseret2 boss, sayang biji... Hehehe --Original Message-- From: Muhamad Rojak Sender: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com ReplyTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Oct 27, 2009 23:20 Subject: [ob] Thank U yg hari ini udah CUT LOST! EMANG ENAK JADI GEMBEL! Thank U yg hari ini udah cut loss, biar entar makin cepet JADI GEMBEL!!!:-D Pada tanggal 27/10/09, boyz® m457...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=m457...@gmail.com menulis: Huahaha... mantabs lah kalo gitu... GPP deh nambah saingan, yg penting FUN. Masalah gede/kecil dapet cuan, nomor sekian lah. toh rejeki udah diatur, katanya. Bisa aja dapet cuan gede di bursa, tapi biaya rumah sakit juga gede karena stress, kurang FUN in daily activity. hehehe... Salam, 2009/10/27 JT jsxtra...@yahoo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=jsxtra...@yahoo.com Halah ente pake sori-sori segala…., anyway betul banget boss, it’s all about probability… Btw, si EL dan jadi trader tuh…, ampun dah, saingan tambah banyak nih, sementara ‘kuenya’ itu-itu aje…, hehehe… *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com[mailto: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *boyz® *Sent:* 27 Oktober 2009 22:05 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [ob] YG CUT LOST NYESEL ??? Of course, selalu ada resiko pada setiap trade, and ga ada jaminan harga akan sesuai dengan ekspektasi. That's why we should measure the risks and calculate the chances. It is game of probabilities, isn't it? Yah itulah... kadang jam terbang memberikan *feeling *or *blink* mana*rebound on support * yg punya probabilitas besar untuk sukses, and mana yg punya probabilitas kecil atau false rebound. Begitu pula di breakout resistance, mana yg punya peluang besar and mana yg minim. Jadi, dengan mengetahui probabilitas tsb, kita dapat mengukur resiko or peluang, besar or kecil. *On higher risk less chance*: dont hope too much, use less of your capital and dont use margin. *On higher chance less risk*: try to make a big killing profit if we can. Buat yg belum punya *feeling* or *blink* tsb, i called it trial and error. karena seringkali ga cukup cuma dibilangin, kudu ngerasain sendiri. Sorry, bro... bukan maksud ngajarin or keminter, just sharing aja. Kali2 aja ada gunanya. Salam, 2009/10/27 JT jsxtra...@yahoo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=jsxtra...@yahoo.com Hmmm.., Sebenernya ngga trial and error juga sih, karena begini; every single trade PASTI ada resiko.., beli di level berapa pun ngga ada jaminan harga bakal bergerak sesuai dgn harapan…., nah teknik buy di support kuat juga begitu, ada resiko, tapi resikonya menjadi lebih kecil, coba aja liat bumi, perlu 3 kali test baru bisa close below, ada yg ‘bantuin’ kita disitu, dan kalaupun jebol, jaraknya masih belum jauh dari level entry kita…, keuntungan lainnya adalah, jika berhasil, dagingnya lumayan tebel…, kebetulan aja BUMI gagal, kalau berhasil kan ada target yg lumayan… Teknik breakout (upside breakout) juga sama, basically main breakout juga sama seperti kita BELI DI SUPPORT.., loh kok bisa?? Karena resistant yg ditembus (breakout) sudah berubah menjadi SUPPORT, sehingga resiko juga terukur dan CL levelnya jika level resistance yg sdh menjadi SUPPORT tsb, tembus ke bawah…., nah inilah kenapa BHSH tidak lebih beresiko dibandingkan nyopet (BLSH), dgn syarat ada satu level yg ditembus dan berubah menjadi support. Nah, menurut ane, yg high risk justru yg beli di level tanggung.., support udh jauh, tapi resistant juga belom jebol, kalo harga bergerak against kita mules dah…, hehe Well, pembahasan diatas sdh diluar TA, ini lebih ke trading strategy… JT *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com[mailto: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *boyz® *Sent:* 27 Oktober 2009 20:15 *To:*
