RE: [old-chevy-truck] to restore or not to restore - just getting started
Yeah, we all ran into this conundrum at one time or the other. I decided on 12v upgrade because everything is 12v these days and its not good on the system to get a jump from a 12v battery if you are stuck somewhere. There is alot to doing that right, but for me it's worth it. You can get 12v motors to replace the heater, 12v ignition parts, sending units, etc. You can even get a Genernator so its upgraded to an alternator but looks totally stock. I decided I had a low limit of 70mph on the highway, so I swapped the rear end for a 1955 1st series. Almost bolts right up. If you get new leaf springs it will bolt right up. The only problem there is a custom length driveshaft. Not hard to find someone who does that. The other part of the equation is the transmission would need swapped too. I put a Borg R10 Overdrive (6 speed standard basically) in and that bolts right up too. I hear there is a 4 spd Muncie that does highway speeds too? I need more info on that because I have another project that needs it. (help) I really like the 235/261 6 cylinder. Its a workhorse and very easy to maintain. Dropping a V8 in this truck requires a special steering system and when I see a non-standard steering column in these old trucks, I just cringe. The 6 cylinder will do 70mph all day. Its just personal preference. If you still have a 216 motor in your truck, you will have to decide if you want to rebuild it. Finding someone who does babbiting may be hard but you can get insert bearings for it from Jim Carter. If it costs too much, swap a 1954 or newer 235 or even better 261. They bolt right in if you change the water pump. If you have two acorn nuts on the valve cover you have the older 216. You can find alot of this information on my website below. Other good places are stovebolt.com and inliners.org. Also, get catalogs right away from Classic Parts of America, Jim Carter, Bowtie Bits, Chevs of the 40's, Classic Industries, LMC Truck, Brothers Truck Parts. I am sure I forgot someone. Deve www.speedprint.com/Deves50 -Original Message- From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com [mailto:old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of d...@kvederis.com Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 10:35 PM To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Subject: [old-chevy-truck] to restore or not to restore - just getting started I have a 54 Chevy 3 window. nbsp;The original owner was a Texas farmer who kept it for 40 years with no major changes to the truck - it is well worn but very original. I bought it 20 years ago and stored it until my retirement a few months ago. nbsp; It is time to restore it and I am on the fence about whether to 1) keep it as close to original as possible (for example 6 volt electric), 2) do a modest upgrade (for example 12 volt/ add a radio/change door locks/etc) or 3) really goose it up (for example, go V8 short block/stick on the floor/ lots of chrome/etc.nbsp; My goal for the truck is to have a great looking and reliable daily driver that I can leave to my son someday. nbsp;I might drive it in the local fourth of July parade but it won#39;t be entered into a Concours d#39;elegance competition. I am neither a collector nor car restoration enthusiast but I do appreciate well done restorations and fine paint jobs. I came across and joined your old-chevy-truck group. I am very open to hearing your opinions and suggestions. nbsp;Thanks! nbsp;Dave nbsp; Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: Re: [old-chevy-truck] to restore or not to restore - just getting started
Ditto to Roy. The straight 6 will get you lots more attention at car shows. There are so many 350/350 combos at car shows these days that I just ignore them. If you want to make it easier to start after long storage, there are fuel injection options out there. FAST is one manufacturer. Lyn 1955 1st series chevy truck, 5 windownbsp; --- In old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com, lt;old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.comgt; wrote: Dave, You can buy all kinds of quot;restoredquot; and quot;modifiedquot; trucks but the neat old original untouched versions are rare indeed. I made some changes to my truck, then made some more but am now moving backwards towards more original. 6 volts works just fine. I converted to 12 and went back. The sound the starter makes on 6 volts is just plain cool. The stomp starter gets lots of attention. My vacuum wipers draw lots of attention. Sure you can#39;t go fast with the old 216 and the original gear train but people love waiting for you so they can watch it a bit longer. For safety I did upgrade my master cylinder to a dual resevoir type. I also added an auxillary standby 6 volt battery #39;cause no one else can give you a jump if you need it. I built a bracket to hold an Optima battery and BOLTED it to the frame just back of the regular battery, then I ran a second wire from + to the starter. Then I got one of those battery disconnect thingies for the - side and I have a strap ready to connect should I ever need it. However, I haven#39;t needed it so far. I check the charge on my spare battery often enough to know its good to go should I ever need it. Long answer to say keep it stock. Roy #39;51 3600 The Sleepy Dragon - Original Message - From: dave@... To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 11:35 PM Subject: [old-chevy-truck] to restore or not to restore - just getting started I have a 54 Chevy 3 window. The original owner was a Texas farmer who kept it for 40 years with no major changes to the truck - it is well worn but very original. I bought it 20 years ago and stored it until my retirement a few months ago. It is time to restore it and I am on the fence about whether to 1) keep it as close to original as possible (for example 6 volt electric), 2) do a modest upgrade (for example 12 volt/ add a radio/change door locks/etc) or 3) really goose it up (for example, go V8 short block/stick on the floor/ lots of chrome/etc. My goal for the truck is to have a great looking and reliable daily driver that I can leave to my son someday. I might drive it in the local fourth of July parade but it won#39;t be entered into a Concours d#39;elegance competition. I am neither a collector nor car restoration enthusiast but I do appreciate well done restorations and fine paint jobs. I came across and joined your old-chevy-truck group. I am very open to hearing y our opinions and suggestions. Thanks! Dave [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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what do you drool over at car/truck shows? stock or modified? i myself like an updated drive train, but i also drive my truck everywhere for 3 seasons of the year. a stock truck is a great attention getter, if you drive up to 3000 miles per year. i drive mine 8000 miles or more per year and set my 58 up for cruising but not for hauling but then i also added ac for comfort [image: Inline image 1] On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 2:29 PM, lyn.go...@gmail.com wrote: ** Ditto to Roy. The straight 6 will get you lots more attention at car shows. There are so many 350/350 combos at car shows these days that I just ignore them. If you want to make it easier to start after long storage, there are fuel injection options out there. FAST is one manufacturer. Lyn 1955 1st series chevy truck, 5 window --- In old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com, old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com wrote: Dave, You can buy all kinds of restored and modified trucks but the neat old original untouched versions are rare indeed. I made some changes to my truck, then made some more but am now moving backwards towards more original. 6 volts works just fine. I converted to 12 and went back. The sound the starter makes on 6 volts is just plain cool. The stomp starter gets lots of attention. My vacuum wipers draw lots of attention. Sure you can't go fast with the old 216 and the original gear train but people love waiting for you so they can watch it a bit longer. For safety I did upgrade my master cylinder to a dual resevoir type. I also added an auxillary standby 6 volt battery 'cause no one else can give you a jump if you need it. I built a bracket to hold an Optima battery and BOLTED it to the frame just back of the regular battery, then I ran a second wire from + to the starter. Then I got one of those battery disconnect thingies for the - side and I have a strap ready to connect should I ever need it. However, I haven't needed it so far. I check the charge on my spare battery often enough to know its good to go should I ever need it. Long answer to say keep it stock. Roy '51 3600 The Sleepy Dragon - Original Message - From: dave@... To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 11:35 PM Subject: [old-chevy-truck] to restore or not to restore - just getting started I have a 54 Chevy 3 window. The original owner was a Texas farmer who kept it for 40 years with no major changes to the truck - it is well worn but very original. I bought it 20 years ago and stored it until my retirement a few months ago. It is time to restore it and I am on the fence about whether to 1) keep it as close to original as possible (for example 6 volt electric), 2) do a modest upgrade (for example 12 volt/ add a radio/change door locks/etc) or 3) really goose it up (for example, go V8 short block/stick on the floor/ lots of chrome/etc. My goal for the truck is to have a great looking and reliable daily driver that I can leave to my son someday. I might drive it in the local fourth of July parade but it won't be entered into a Concours d'elegance competition. I am neither a collector nor car restoration enthusiast but I do appreciate well done restorations and fine paint jobs. I came across and joined your old-chevy-truck group. I am very open to hearing your opinions and suggestions. Thanks! Dave [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] to restore or not to restore - just getting started
In a message dated 9/2/2013 1:17:24 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, kohlg...@gmail.com writes: i myself like an updated drive train, but i also drive my truck everywhere for 3 seasons of the year. I agree, I believe if the current technology was available in the era it would have been used. I had several stock 6's in my pick ups and panels back in the 60's, but the '51 I have now was upgraded a lot by a previous owner - I am striving to keep the 1951 appearance, as she's to be a daily driver and she needs to be comfortable for these old bones I am stuck with. thanks, Don Fiftyone5window [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] to restore or not to restore - just getting started
I guess the basic question is Do you want a vintage truck or do you want a new truck that looks like a vintage truck?. I have it on good authority that, just like WWII vets, they won't be making any more. Ever. Tad On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 4:13 PM, fiftyone5win...@aol.com wrote: ** In a message dated 9/2/2013 1:17:24 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, kohlg...@gmail.com writes: i myself like an updated drive train, but i also drive my truck everywhere for 3 seasons of the year. I agree, I believe if the current technology was available in the era it would have been used. I had several stock 6's in my pick ups and panels back in the 60's, but the '51 I have now was upgraded a lot by a previous owner - I am striving to keep the 1951 appearance, as she's to be a daily driver and she needs to be comfortable for these old bones I am stuck with. thanks, Don Fiftyone5window [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Well, since we don't have your address to snail mail you, we need to use the inter-web. I need to run out and get some kerosene for our lanterns, now. As for myself; I live in the mid 50's as much as I can. From: fiftyone5win...@aol.com fiftyone5win...@aol.com To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] to restore or not to restore - just getting started In a message dated 9/2/2013 2:31:35 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bailey@gmail.com writes: I guess the basic question is Do you want a vintage truck or do you want a new truck that looks like a vintage truck?. Naw, I want a vintage truck with some modern innerds. I don't understand how folks can use some modern technologies, like email - but insist their trucks have positive grounds and dipper oiling systems. I was born in '45, must I remain there too ? Yeah, Vets are a precious human commodity, we thank every generations Vets ! thanks, Don Fiftyone5window [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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In a message dated 9/2/2013 4:59:17 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tikua...@yahoo.com writes: .I need to run out and get some kerosene for our lanterns, now. Please use the appropriate tin cans. I am sure you do more techno wise than just email - you live 'here' too - As for my '51, we don't have the choice of pure restoration, physically or financially - so she gets the best I can do - if I am on the wrong list please let me know. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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i realize this is a stock listserve, i read but rarely post, for i am a modifier. the best forum i've found for working on old chevy trucks is here 67-72chevytrucks.comhttp://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/forumdisplay.php?f=13 the forum handles prewar to current model trucks, all in sub-forums by body style it has a very active 47-59 chevy truck sub-forum, probably over a hundred 47-59 builds active. trucks over there run the full spectrum from as found, bone stock restorations to full custom, like mine is. On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 8:09 PM, fiftyone5win...@aol.com wrote: ** In a message dated 9/2/2013 4:59:17 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tikua...@yahoo.com writes: . I need to run out and get some kerosene for our lanterns, now. Please use the appropriate tin cans. I am sure you do more techno wise than just email - you live 'here' too - As for my '51, we don't have the choice of pure restoration, physically or financially - so she gets the best I can do - if I am on the wrong list please let me know. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] to restore or not to restore - just getting started
Well, I have started using a remote, but still like that foil on the rabbit ears. From: fiftyone5win...@aol.com fiftyone5win...@aol.com To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] to restore or not to restore - just getting started In a message dated 9/2/2013 4:59:17 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tikua...@yahoo.com writes: .I need to run out and get some kerosene for our lanterns, now. Please use the appropriate tin cans. I am sure you do more techno wise than just email - you live 'here' too - As for my '51, we don't have the choice of pure restoration, physically or financially - so she gets the best I can do - if I am on the wrong list please let me know. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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In a message dated 9/2/2013 5:40:25 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tikua...@yahoo.com writes: but still like that foil on the rabbit ears. Well, I still have my foil helmet Thanks to those who have helped/replied to me in the past - back to just reading. thanks, Don Fiftyone5window [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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my build in that forum, if your interested http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=501998 On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 8:55 PM, fiftyone5win...@aol.com wrote: ** http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/forumdisplay.php?f=13 thanks ! Don [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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It's your truckdo as ya see fit. My dad bought his '57 new...went from a 6 to a 283 and the current 454/th400...got shiney chrome that Chevy didn't think of in the day...made lots of changes and it's still a '57 Chevy PU. Enjoy the truck...my suggestion? get it running, drive it and see what you want to change...might be a frame off or a new rubber grommet to keep wing from coming into the cab. Enjoy it:) - Original Message - From: Arizona Pride! tikua...@yahoo.com To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 4:59:12 PM Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] to restore or not to restore - just getting started Well, since we don't have your address to snail mail you, we need to use the inter-web. I need to run out and get some kerosene for our lanterns, now. As for myself; I live in the mid 50's as much as I can. From: fiftyone5win...@aol.com fiftyone5win...@aol.com To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] to restore or not to restore - just getting started In a message dated 9/2/2013 2:31:35 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bailey@gmail.com writes: I guess the basic question is Do you want a vintage truck or do you want a new truck that looks like a vintage truck?. Naw, I want a vintage truck with some modern innerds. I don't understand how folks can use some modern technologies, like email - but insist their trucks have positive grounds and dipper oiling systems. I was born in '45, must I remain there too ? Yeah, Vets are a precious human commodity, we thank every generations Vets ! thanks, Don Fiftyone5window [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] to restore or not to restore - just getting started
In my 2nd opinion; old patina should be worth 10X's it's weight in gold; priceless. From: Chico Woodhill lotsali...@gmail.com To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] to restore or not to restore - just getting started As for myself, when I see an old truck like yours parked somewhere, I get all excited. I can't wait to walk over and take a closer look. The more original it looks, the more impressed I am. But if I see that it's been modernized, made less like it was originally, I feel a bit let down. If I talk to the owner and he tells me how he removed the good running 6 banger and replaced it with an 8, some of the air comes out of my balloon. That's just me, of course. But somehow the more it looks and sounds like it did in 1954 or thereabouts, the more romantic it feels and I get more of a glow just looking at it. (I should add that invisible safety mods don't bother me at all.) If you DO swap out some of the original parts, at least consider making them available to those who are struggling to restore a modded truck back to it's original form Just how I feel about it. ...chico On Aug 31, 2013, at 8:35 PM, d...@kvederis.com wrote: I have a 54 Chevy 3 window. The original owner was a Texas farmer who kept it for 40 years with no major changes to the truck - it is well worn but very original. I bought it 20 years ago and stored it until my retirement a few months ago. It is time to restore it and I am on the fence about whether to 1) keep it as close to original as possible (for example 6 volt electric), 2) do a modest upgrade (for example 12 volt/ add a radio/change door locks/etc) or 3) really goose it up (for example, go V8 short block/stick on the floor/ lots of chrome/etc. My goal for the truck is to have a great looking and reliable daily driver that I can leave to my son someday. I might drive it in the local fourth of July parade but it won't be entered into a Concours d'elegance competition. I am neither a collector nor car restoration enthusiast but I do appreciate well done restorations and fine paint jobs. I came across and joined your old-chevy-truck group. I am very open to hearing your opinions and suggestions. Thanks! Dave [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] to restore or not to restore - just getting started
Dave, You can buy all kinds of restored and modified trucks but the neat old original untouched versions are rare indeed. I made some changes to my truck, then made some more but am now moving backwards towards more original. 6 volts works just fine. I converted to 12 and went back. The sound the starter makes on 6 volts is just plain cool. The stomp starter gets lots of attention. My vacuum wipers draw lots of attention. Sure you can't go fast with the old 216 and the original gear train but people love waiting for you so they can watch it a bit longer. For safety I did upgrade my master cylinder to a dual resevoir type. I also added an auxillary standby 6 volt battery 'cause no one else can give you a jump if you need it. I built a bracket to hold an Optima battery and BOLTED it to the frame just back of the regular battery, then I ran a second wire from + to the starter. Then I got one of those battery disconnect thingies for the - side and I have a strap ready to connect should I ever need it. However, I haven't needed it so far. I check the charge on my spare battery often enough to know its good to go should I ever need it. Long answer to say keep it stock. Roy '51 3600 The Sleepy Dragon - Original Message - From: d...@kvederis.com To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 11:35 PM Subject: [old-chevy-truck] to restore or not to restore - just getting started I have a 54 Chevy 3 window. The original owner was a Texas farmer who kept it for 40 years with no major changes to the truck - it is well worn but very original. I bought it 20 years ago and stored it until my retirement a few months ago. It is time to restore it and I am on the fence about whether to 1) keep it as close to original as possible (for example 6 volt electric), 2) do a modest upgrade (for example 12 volt/ add a radio/change door locks/etc) or 3) really goose it up (for example, go V8 short block/stick on the floor/ lots of chrome/etc. My goal for the truck is to have a great looking and reliable daily driver that I can leave to my son someday. I might drive it in the local fourth of July parade but it won't be entered into a Concours d'elegance competition. I am neither a collector nor car restoration enthusiast but I do appreciate well done restorations and fine paint jobs. I came across and joined your old-chevy-truck group. I am very open to hearing your opin ions and suggestions. Thanks! Dave [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] to restore or not to restore - just getting started
Personally I am a keep it as original as possible type of person. We loose too much history daily to hot rod builders and scrap yards. It has made it this long like it is why ruin it now. Mike On 8/31/2013 11:35 PM, d...@kvederis.com wrote: I have a 54 Chevy 3 window. The original owner was a Texas farmer who kept it for 40 years with no major changes to the truck - it is well worn but very original. I bought it 20 years ago and stored it until my retirement a few months ago. It is time to restore it and I am on the fence about whether to 1) keep it as close to original as possible (for example 6 volt electric), 2) do a modest upgrade (for example 12 volt/ add a radio/change door locks/etc) or 3) really goose it up (for example, go V8 short block/stick on the floor/ lots of chrome/etc. My goal for the truck is to have a great looking and reliable daily driver that I can leave to my son someday. I might drive it in the local fourth of July parade but it won't be entered into a Concours d'elegance competition. I am neither a collector nor car restoration enthusiast but I do appreciate well done restorations and fine paint jobs. I came across and joined your old-chevy-truck group. I am very open to hearing your opinions and suggestions. Thanks! Dave [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] to restore or not to restore - just getting started
Just depends on what your looking for. Cannot go wrong with a straight 6. Make it a driver above all else. Have fun with ut, From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com on behalf of d...@kvederis.com d...@kvederis.com Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 8:35:22 PM To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Subject: [old-chevy-truck] to restore or not to restore - just getting started I have a 54 Chevy 3 window. The original owner was a Texas farmer who kept it for 40 years with no major changes to the truck - it is well worn but very original. I bought it 20 years ago and stored it until my retirement a few months ago. It is time to restore it and I am on the fence about whether to 1) keep it as close to original as possible (for example 6 volt electric), 2) do a modest upgrade (for example 12 volt/ add a radio/change door locks/etc) or 3) really goose it up (for example, go V8 short block/stick on the floor/ lots of chrome/etc. My goal for the truck is to have a great looking and reliable daily driver that I can leave to my son someday. I might drive it in the local fourth of July parade but it won't be entered into a Concours d'elegance competition. I am neither a collector nor car restoration enthusiast but I do appreciate well done restorations and fine paint jobs. I came across and joined your old-chevy-truck group. I am very open to hearing your opinio ns and suggestions. Thanks! Dave [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] to restore or not to restore - just getting started
It. From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Bob Sharp bob_sh...@veyance.com Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 8:58:24 PM To: Old Chevy Trucks Yahoo Groups Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] to restore or not to restore - just getting started Just depends on what your looking for. Cannot go wrong with a straight 6. Make it a driver above all else. Have fun with ut, From: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.commailto:old-chevy-truck%40yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.commailto:old-chevy-truck%40yahoogroups.com on behalf of d...@kvederis.commailto:dave%40kvederis.com d...@kvederis.commailto:dave%40kvederis.com Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 8:35:22 PM To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.commailto:old-chevy-truck%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [old-chevy-truck] to restore or not to restore - just getting started I have a 54 Chevy 3 window. The original owner was a Texas farmer who kept it for 40 years with no major changes to the truck - it is well worn but very original. I bought it 20 years ago and stored it until my retirement a few months ago. It is time to restore it and I am on the fence about whether to 1) keep it as close to original as possible (for example 6 volt electric), 2) do a modest upgrade (for example 12 volt/ add a radio/change door locks/etc) or 3) really goose it up (for example, go V8 short block/stick on the floor/ lots of chrome/etc. My goal for the truck is to have a great looking and reliable daily driver that I can leave to my son someday. I might drive it in the local fourth of July parade but it won't be entered into a Concours d'elegance competition. I am neither a collector nor car restoration enthusiast but I do appreciate well done restorations and fine paint jobs. I came across and joined your old-chevy-truck group. I am very open to hearing your opinions an d suggestions. Thanks! Dave [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] to restore or not to restore - just getting started
Dave I'm going to lean with the guys that say keep it original. There are a few things that you can do to make it more drivable while still maintaining the originality of the truck. Put radial tires on it - far improves the ride. Consider changing the rear end gear ratio to something along the lines of 3:55-1 for ease of highway driving. You might even go so far as converting to front disk brakes. Otherwise, keep 'er stock!! Ken From: d...@kvederis.com d...@kvederis.com To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 10:35 PM Subject: [old-chevy-truck] to restore or not to restore - just getting started I have a 54 Chevy 3 window. nbsp;The original owner was a Texas farmer who kept it for 40 years with no major changes to the truck - it is well worn but very original. I bought it 20 years ago and stored it until my retirement a few months ago. nbsp; It is time to restore it and I am on the fence about whether to 1) keep it as close to original as possible (for example 6 volt electric), 2) do a modest upgrade (for example 12 volt/ add a radio/change door locks/etc) or 3) really goose it up (for example, go V8 short block/stick on the floor/ lots of chrome/etc.nbsp; My goal for the truck is to have a great looking and reliable daily driver that I can leave to my son someday. nbsp;I might drive it in the local fourth of July parade but it won't be entered into a Concours d'elegance competition. I am neither a collector nor car restoration enthusiast but I do appreciate well done restorations and fine paint jobs. I came across and joined your old-chevy-truck group. I am very open to hearing your opinions and suggestions. nbsp;Thanks! nbsp;Dave nbsp; Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] to restore or not to restore - just getting started
From what I have seen, people tend to really appreciate an original, maintained unmolested truck the most because it has the story of it's life in it's appearance. As for your own personal preference, do you want to enjoy it's visual history, drive it a lot in some comfort or try to keep up with the Jonses with a better paint job, better everything, which never ends. From: d...@kvederis.com d...@kvederis.com To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 8:35 PM Subject: [old-chevy-truck] to restore or not to restore - just getting started I have a 54 Chevy 3 window. The original owner was a Texas farmer who kept it for 40 years with no major changes to the truck - it is well worn but very original. I bought it 20 years ago and stored it until my retirement a few months ago. It is time to restore it and I am on the fence about whether to 1) keep it as close to original as possible (for example 6 volt electric), 2) do a modest upgrade (for example 12 volt/ add a radio/change door locks/etc) or 3) really goose it up (for example, go V8 short block/stick on the floor/ lots of chrome/etc. My goal for the truck is to have a great looking and reliable daily driver that I can leave to my son someday. I might drive it in the local fourth of July parade but it won't be entered into a Concours d'elegance competition. I am neither a collector nor car restoration enthusiast but I do appreciate well done restorations and fine paint jobs. I came across and joined your old-chevy-truck group. I am very open to hearing your opinions and suggestions. Thanks! Dave [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] to restore or not to restore - just getting started
As for myself, when I see an old truck like yours parked somewhere, I get all excited. I can't wait to walk over and take a closer look. The more original it looks, the more impressed I am. But if I see that it's been modernized, made less like it was originally, I feel a bit let down. If I talk to the owner and he tells me how he removed the good running 6 banger and replaced it with an 8, some of the air comes out of my balloon. That's just me, of course. But somehow the more it looks and sounds like it did in 1954 or thereabouts, the more romantic it feels and I get more of a glow just looking at it. (I should add that invisible safety mods don't bother me at all.) If you DO swap out some of the original parts, at least consider making them available to those who are struggling to restore a modded truck back to it's original form Just how I feel about it. ...chico On Aug 31, 2013, at 8:35 PM, d...@kvederis.com wrote: I have a 54 Chevy 3 window. The original owner was a Texas farmer who kept it for 40 years with no major changes to the truck - it is well worn but very original. I bought it 20 years ago and stored it until my retirement a few months ago. It is time to restore it and I am on the fence about whether to 1) keep it as close to original as possible (for example 6 volt electric), 2) do a modest upgrade (for example 12 volt/ add a radio/change door locks/etc) or 3) really goose it up (for example, go V8 short block/stick on the floor/ lots of chrome/etc. My goal for the truck is to have a great looking and reliable daily driver that I can leave to my son someday. I might drive it in the local fourth of July parade but it won't be entered into a Concours d'elegance competition. I am neither a collector nor car restoration enthusiast but I do appreciate well done restorations and fine paint jobs. I came across and joined your old-chevy-truck group. I am very open to hearing your opin ions and suggestions. Thanks! Dave [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
