Re: [OM Cooker] Package Management within Calamares installer

[Blackcrack]

Hi Ben,


then should you view these couple videos..
we should become fast as possible an installer
with an online-rpm-installer like it was on Mandrake and Mandriva
and with it had MDK/MDV in the past the highest success .
Also For more and better fastest testing the rpm's and the dependencies ,
In one hand the well working fresh installing rpm's and the
well play together of the compilation and on the other hand
the possible for testing the dependencies and nothing is missing..
by installation ..

as example, take the beta build 130, install the system ..
add the abf-download cooker
then urpme task-plasma fully, make urpme --auto --auto-orphans
and let the rest flush in the trash.
Behind,
urpmi --auto --auto-update --no-verify-rpm --force-key
then
urpmi --auto task-plasma

oh, husten, we have a problem .. ;)
it missing some packages ..
something become you directly if you use an online rpm-installing
and to be directly in the situation to solve them .. you see ..
this is once of the gd of rpm-online installer ..
and should still be an standard on our Distro
just because this ..

the new installer anno ~ 2013
was the worst crap of the Century for MDK/MDV !

and this :
http://www.blackysgate.de/files/folder-root/Mandriva-install-movies/
was the best installer ! The Original ! Because, this has work with
dependencies, task's Files and single files as custom + resolve the 
dependencies


best regards
Blacky



Am 02.05.2016 um 19:59 schrieb Ben Bullard:


Yes, though I don't know if that fits what the Calamares developer is 
talking about. It may be that this leads to users being able to 
add/remove individual packages. If it could also do package groups 
though I think that could be useful.


Don't think this should be a high priority for OMA.


Ben Bullard
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On 04/29/2016 10:51 AM, Matthew Portner wrote:

So your referring to package groups?

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 29, 2016, at 9:52 AM, Ben Bullard  wrote:


+1

For one reason would be excellent way for those with older hardware 
to install only what they need such as task-lxqt or whichever.


Also would perhaps be better for installs for servers or others 
where very basic system is desired.


Ben Bullard
ben79

OpenMandriva-QA Team

On 04/29/2016 04:03 AM, Colin Close wrote:

There has been a proposal to institute package management within the Calamares 
installer. I think we should probably be supporting this.
More info and links to sources here:-
https://calamares.io/bugs/browse/CAL-82
You can log in with a github account.

Best,
Colin


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Re: [OM Cooker] Package Management within Calamares installer

[Ben Bullard]

Yes, though I don't know if that fits what the Calamares developer is 
talking about. It may be that this leads to users being able to 
add/remove individual packages. If it could also do package groups 
though I think that could be useful.


Don't think this should be a high priority for OMA.


Ben Bullard
ben79

OpenMandriva-QA Team

On 04/29/2016 10:51 AM, Matthew Portner wrote:

So your referring to package groups?

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 29, 2016, at 9:52 AM, Ben Bullard > wrote:



+1

For one reason would be excellent way for those with older hardware 
to install only what they need such as task-lxqt or whichever.


Also would perhaps be better for installs for servers or others where 
very basic system is desired.


Ben Bullard
ben79

OpenMandriva-QA Team

On 04/29/2016 04:03 AM, Colin Close wrote:

There has been a proposal to institute package management within the Calamares 
installer. I think we should probably be supporting this.
More info and links to sources here:-
https://calamares.io/bugs/browse/CAL-82
You can log in with a github account.

Best,
Colin


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Re: [OM Cooker] Package Management within Calamares installer

[Matthew Portner]

So your referring to package groups?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 29, 2016, at 9:52 AM, Ben Bullard  wrote:
> 
> +1
> 
> For one reason would be excellent way for those with older hardware to 
> install only what they need such as task-lxqt or whichever.
> 
> Also would perhaps be better for installs for servers or others where very 
> basic system is desired.
> Ben Bullard
> ben79
> 
> OpenMandriva-QA Team
> 
>> On 04/29/2016 04:03 AM, Colin Close wrote:
>> There has been a proposal to institute package management within the 
>> Calamares installer. I think we should probably be supporting this.
>> More info and links to sources here:-
>> https://calamares.io/bugs/browse/CAL-82
>> You can log in with a github account.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Colin
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Re: [OM Cooker] Package Management within Calamares installer

[Ben Bullard]

+1

For one reason would be excellent way for those with older hardware to 
install only what they need such as task-lxqt or whichever.


Also would perhaps be better for installs for servers or others where 
very basic system is desired.


Ben Bullard
ben79

OpenMandriva-QA Team

On 04/29/2016 04:03 AM, Colin Close wrote:

There has been a proposal to institute package management within the Calamares 
installer. I think we should probably be supporting this.
More info and links to sources here:-
https://calamares.io/bugs/browse/CAL-82
You can log in with a github account.

Best,
Colin


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Re: [OM Cooker] Package Management within Calamares installer

[Blackcrack]

Am 29.04.2016 um 15:17 schrieb Alexander Stefanov-Khryukin:

I think netinstall is a good feature.

+1
was ever well, pretty well to have the possible for install really fresh 
packages..
and, the possible for, by instal to check all packages if some not well 
works

in a fresh system..
Netinstall have his place and in any case it is an really good fiture for
a testinstall with actual fresh cookin' rpm-packages and the possible to 
figure out what's works

and what's not works by install really fresh rpm-packages .
It helps the Distribution only for have the possible what it is well 
working and what's not..
and make it able to choose what the user want by custom package 
selecting install.

..
thanks Alex.

best regards
Blacky



2016-04-29 12:39 GMT+03:00 Tomasz Gajc >:


-1

useless feature. Just because "old mandrake installer got this" 
does not mean it is a reason to work on this.


Eyes of the future tells me that tons of voluneers from here are
delivering this feature.

2016-04-29 11:03 GMT+02:00 Colin Close >:

There has been a proposal to institute package management
within the Calamares installer. I think we should probably be
supporting this.
More info and links to sources here:-
https://calamares.io/bugs/browse/CAL-82
You can log in with a github account.

Best,
Colin


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Re: [OM Cooker] Package Management within Calamares installer

[Alexander Stefanov-Khryukin]

I think netinstall is a good feature.

2016-04-29 12:39 GMT+03:00 Tomasz Gajc :

> -1
>
> useless feature. Just because "old mandrake installer got this"  does not
> mean it is a reason to work on this.
>
> Eyes of the future tells me that tons of voluneers from here are
> delivering this feature.
>
> 2016-04-29 11:03 GMT+02:00 Colin Close :
>
>> There has been a proposal to institute package management within the
>> Calamares installer. I think we should probably be supporting this.
>> More info and links to sources here:-
>> https://calamares.io/bugs/browse/CAL-82
>> You can log in with a github account.
>>
>> Best,
>> Colin
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Re: [OM Cooker] Package Management within Calamares installer

[Tomasz Gajc]

-1

useless feature. Just because "old mandrake installer got this"  does not
mean it is a reason to work on this.

Eyes of the future tells me that tons of voluneers from here are delivering
this feature.

2016-04-29 11:03 GMT+02:00 Colin Close :

> There has been a proposal to institute package management within the
> Calamares installer. I think we should probably be supporting this.
> More info and links to sources here:-
> https://calamares.io/bugs/browse/CAL-82
> You can log in with a github account.
>
> Best,
> Colin
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[OM Cooker] Package Management within Calamares installer

[Colin Close]

There has been a proposal to institute package management within the Calamares 
installer. I think we should probably be supporting this.
More info and links to sources here:-
https://calamares.io/bugs/browse/CAL-82
You can log in with a github account.

Best,
Colin


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