[onap-discuss] SO Weekly Meeting Schedule... (New DST effect)

2018-11-19 Thread seshu kumar m
[so] Weekly Meeting...

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[onap-discuss] SO weekly Meeting is cancelled - On the occasion of Diwai

2018-11-06 Thread seshu kumar m
Dear All,

We would not be having our SO weekly meeting this week on the occasion of 
Diwali.



Subject: SO weekly meeting
When: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 8:00 PM-9:00 PM (UTC+05:30) Sri 
Jayawardenepura.
Where: https://zoom.us/j/309416964


[so] Weekly Meeting
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[onap-discuss] [SO] Weekly Meeting Minutes

2018-08-22 Thread Marcus G K Williams
https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/SO+Weekly+Meeting+8-22-2018

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[onap-discuss] [so] Weekly Meeting CANCELLED 15 Aug 2018 in the event of National Holiday

2018-08-14 Thread seshu kumar m
[so] Weekly Meeting CANCELLED on 15th August 2018 in the event of National 
Holiday

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Re: [E] Re: [onap-discuss] [SO] Weekly Meeting Minutes 7-25-2018

2018-07-27 Thread Tal Liron
rk completely in TOSCA mode even for
>>>workflows and then share the same in standard format for future purposes.
>>>- Having HEAT / TOSCA backend : I second Tal's view on this one.
>>>IMHO SO shouldn't be coupled with controller logic and SO's core logic
>>>should be based on BPMN. It is the BPMN engine which is at the heart of 
>>> SO,
>>>    which is making SO as a SO. Addition of new controller logic ( HEAT / any
>>>other format ) should follow existing adapter logic in SO, thereby it is
>>>extendable & scalable. This idea / PoC is actually providing a "friendly"
>>>wrapper on top of BPMN. that's it.
>>>
>>> Hope this sets the stage for future discussions on this topic.
>>>
>>> @Tal Liron  : It was a great show !
>>>
>>> BR,
>>> Viswa
>>>
>>> <http://www.verizon.com>
>>>
>>> Viswanath Kumar Skand Priya
>>> Senior Architect
>>> Technology, Architecture & Planning
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 6:39 PM Steve Smokowski  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you for the readme
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From: * on behalf of Tal Liron <
>>>> tli...@redhat.com>
>>>> *Reply-To: *"onap-discuss@lists.onap.org" ,
>>>> "tli...@redhat.com" 
>>>> *Date: *Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 9:07 AM
>>>> *To: *onap-discuss 
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [onap-discuss] [SO] Weekly Meeting Minutes 7-25-2018
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Steve,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At your request I wrote a detailed README describing the solution and
>>>> the example: https://github.com/tliron/puccini-bpmn/
>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_tliron_puccini-2Dbpmn_=DwMFaQ=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg=shs6nPzThSiGJml9VXN0Eg=JzO-UjYTbJGUMdAp-GBJsvFFs6ShpUxOx1OcnoUcxyA=wl1FD1fND7cuPeOEzE0FYxXfWxXz4hQcW_2AWtLRQdA=>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For convenience, I will reproduce it here:
>>>> Features
>>>>
>>>> The imports directory has everything needed to generate BPMN from
>>>> TOSCA. Specifically there is bpmn.yaml
>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_tliron_puccini-2Dbpmn_blob_master_imports_bpmn.yaml=DwMFaQ=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg=shs6nPzThSiGJml9VXN0Eg=JzO-UjYTbJGUMdAp-GBJsvFFs6ShpUxOx1OcnoUcxyA=dNdhlhIFjwpk0aq_f8qmQwtK36nT7UKlnz8_Buf8VCU=>,
>>>> which has the type information and in turn imports bpmn.js
>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_tliron_puccini-2Dbpmn_blob_master_imports_bpmn.js=DwMFaQ=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg=shs6nPzThSiGJml9VXN0Eg=JzO-UjYTbJGUMdAp-GBJsvFFs6ShpUxOx1OcnoUcxyA=VdPzf1BX7bl-4ZxS7AMZr4PzzMsiuH0fg6bg8tJg31o=>,
>>>> which is the JavaScript code to generate BPMN.
>>>>
>>>> Two TOSCA features (introduced in TOSCA 1.1) are supported:
>>>> Workflows
>>>>
>>>> TOSCA declarative workflows are translated into BPMN processes. Because
>>>> a TOSCA workflow is essentially a graph of steps with sequential and
>>>> parallel sections, in BPMN we must represent the graph using parallel
>>>> gateways, diverging or converging as the case may be, as well as
>>>> conditional gateways to represent step success or failure. The JavaScript
>>>> analyzes the graph and inserts the appropriate gateways between the steps.
>>>>
>>>> Each step in TOSCA comprises zero or more activities that should happen
>>>> in sequence. In BPMN, all the activities in the step become a single
>>>> scriptTask entity. For now, we create a script made of pseudo-code
>>>> that calls these activities. A complete solution would require a BPM
>>>> orchestration environment and real code that would actually call node
>>>> instances deployed in a cloud.
>>>>
>>>> Once the BPMN process is imported into BPM software, you may include
>>>> this process as a sub-process within other BPM processes. The workflow may
>>>> or may not hand control back to another sub-process, so that it may or may
>>>> not be a continuation of a control loop.
>>>> Policies and Policy Triggers
>>>>
>>>> Policy triggers are also trans

Re: [E] Re: [onap-discuss] [SO] Weekly Meeting Minutes 7-25-2018

2018-07-27 Thread Viswanath Kumar Skand Priya via Lists.Onap.Org
ase, SO and the rest of ONAP. :)
>
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 6:28 AM Viswanath V Kumar Skand Priya <
> viswanath.kumarskandpr...@verizon.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear All / SO team,
>>
>> During last SO call, I was caught inbetween 2 calls and wan't able to
>> participate in SO call, was largely in hearing mode. I would like to add
>> few points esp on the perspectives raised by Seshu ( reuse existing BPMN
>> and do something about it ) & Alex ( adding HEAT / TOSCA backend for
>> puccini ).
>>
>> One of the motivation behind this PoC ( atleast for me ) is to bridge gap
>> between BPMN driven orchestration ( imperative style ) Vs TOSCA driven
>> orchestration ( declarative style ). It is also important to note that,
>> both styles has its own merits / demerits and both are suitable for
>> specific set of use-cases. However in a typical service provider landscape,
>> esp with the advent of NFV, the boundary between network orchestration & IT
>> orchestration is becoming more fuzzy. We would normally need the
>> flexibility of doing both styles.
>>
>> IMHO TOSCA is well suited for "expressing" what you want to do and what
>> steps you want to take in doing that thing. However BPMN is really suited
>> to actually "do" that orchestration. In current ONAP story ( where we don't
>> have E2E TOSCA ), if I want to create a network service with a specific
>> work flow, I have to "design a BPMN" for my case and then tie it with the
>> engine. Though one can argue that, BPMNs are resuable, they are already
>> abstract , they can be tied / chained with each other etc, practically it
>> is still a complex process. TOSCA on other hands helps us to define what we
>> want in more flexible & extendable way. So the idea here is to express what
>> you want to do in TOSCA and execute it via BPMN. Thereby we get best of
>> both worlds, with minimal impact to existing architecture.
>>
>> Now coming to the perspectives :
>>
>>- Re-use existing BPMN : Like I quoted above, the idea is to generate
>>a BPMN flow dynamically from input TOSCA. This can be further refined to
>>hook up with existing BPMN if it makes sense. The crux of this idea is to
>>let the designer work completely in TOSCA mode even for workflows and then
>>share the same in standard format for future purposes.
>>- Having HEAT / TOSCA backend : I second Tal's view on this one. IMHO
>>SO shouldn't be coupled with controller logic and SO's core logic should 
>> be
>>based on BPMN. It is the BPMN engine which is at the heart of SO, which is
>>making SO as a SO. Addition of new controller logic ( HEAT / any other
>>format ) should follow existing adapter logic in SO, thereby it is
>>extendable & scalable. This idea / PoC is actually providing a "friendly"
>>wrapper on top of BPMN. that's it.
>>
>> Hope this sets the stage for future discussions on this topic.
>>
>> @Tal Liron  : It was a great show !
>>
>> BR,
>> Viswa
>>
>> <http://www.verizon.com>
>>
>> Viswanath Kumar Skand Priya
>> Senior Architect
>> Technology, Architecture & Planning
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 6:39 PM Steve Smokowski  wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for the readme
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: * on behalf of Tal Liron <
>>> tli...@redhat.com>
>>> *Reply-To: *"onap-discuss@lists.onap.org" ,
>>> "tli...@redhat.com" 
>>> *Date: *Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 9:07 AM
>>> *To: *onap-discuss 
>>> *Subject: *Re: [onap-discuss] [SO] Weekly Meeting Minutes 7-25-2018
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Steve,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At your request I wrote a detailed README describing the solution and
>>> the example: https://github.com/tliron/puccini-bpmn/
>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_tliron_puccini-2Dbpmn_=DwMFaQ=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg=shs6nPzThSiGJml9VXN0Eg=JzO-UjYTbJGUMdAp-GBJsvFFs6ShpUxOx1OcnoUcxyA=wl1FD1fND7cuPeOEzE0FYxXfWxXz4hQcW_2AWtLRQdA=>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For convenience, I will reproduce it here:
>>> Features
>>>
>>> The imports directory has everything needed to generate BPMN from
>>> TOSCA. Specifically there is bpmn.yaml
>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_tliron_puccini-2Dbpmn_b

Re: [E] Re: [onap-discuss] [SO] Weekly Meeting Minutes 7-25-2018

2018-07-27 Thread Tal Liron
mpletely in TOSCA mode even for workflows and then
>share the same in standard format for future purposes.
>- Having HEAT / TOSCA backend : I second Tal's view on this one. IMHO
>SO shouldn't be coupled with controller logic and SO's core logic should be
>based on BPMN. It is the BPMN engine which is at the heart of SO, which is
>making SO as a SO. Addition of new controller logic ( HEAT / any other
>format ) should follow existing adapter logic in SO, thereby it is
>extendable & scalable. This idea / PoC is actually providing a "friendly"
>wrapper on top of BPMN. that's it.
>
> Hope this sets the stage for future discussions on this topic.
>
> @Tal Liron  : It was a great show !
>
> BR,
> Viswa
>
> <http://www.verizon.com>
>
> Viswanath Kumar Skand Priya
> Senior Architect
> Technology, Architecture & Planning
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 6:39 PM Steve Smokowski  wrote:
>
>> Thank you for the readme
>>
>>
>>
>> -Steve
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: * on behalf of Tal Liron <
>> tli...@redhat.com>
>> *Reply-To: *"onap-discuss@lists.onap.org" ,
>> "tli...@redhat.com" 
>> *Date: *Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 9:07 AM
>> *To: *onap-discuss 
>> *Subject: *Re: [onap-discuss] [SO] Weekly Meeting Minutes 7-25-2018
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>>
>>
>> At your request I wrote a detailed README describing the solution and the
>> example: https://github.com/tliron/puccini-bpmn/
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_tliron_puccini-2Dbpmn_=DwMFaQ=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg=shs6nPzThSiGJml9VXN0Eg=JzO-UjYTbJGUMdAp-GBJsvFFs6ShpUxOx1OcnoUcxyA=wl1FD1fND7cuPeOEzE0FYxXfWxXz4hQcW_2AWtLRQdA=>
>>
>>
>>
>> For convenience, I will reproduce it here:
>> Features
>>
>> The imports directory has everything needed to generate BPMN from TOSCA.
>> Specifically there is bpmn.yaml
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_tliron_puccini-2Dbpmn_blob_master_imports_bpmn.yaml=DwMFaQ=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg=shs6nPzThSiGJml9VXN0Eg=JzO-UjYTbJGUMdAp-GBJsvFFs6ShpUxOx1OcnoUcxyA=dNdhlhIFjwpk0aq_f8qmQwtK36nT7UKlnz8_Buf8VCU=>,
>> which has the type information and in turn imports bpmn.js
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_tliron_puccini-2Dbpmn_blob_master_imports_bpmn.js=DwMFaQ=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg=shs6nPzThSiGJml9VXN0Eg=JzO-UjYTbJGUMdAp-GBJsvFFs6ShpUxOx1OcnoUcxyA=VdPzf1BX7bl-4ZxS7AMZr4PzzMsiuH0fg6bg8tJg31o=>,
>> which is the JavaScript code to generate BPMN.
>>
>> Two TOSCA features (introduced in TOSCA 1.1) are supported:
>> Workflows
>>
>> TOSCA declarative workflows are translated into BPMN processes. Because a
>> TOSCA workflow is essentially a graph of steps with sequential and parallel
>> sections, in BPMN we must represent the graph using parallel gateways,
>> diverging or converging as the case may be, as well as conditional gateways
>> to represent step success or failure. The JavaScript analyzes the graph and
>> inserts the appropriate gateways between the steps.
>>
>> Each step in TOSCA comprises zero or more activities that should happen
>> in sequence. In BPMN, all the activities in the step become a single
>> scriptTask entity. For now, we create a script made of pseudo-code that
>> calls these activities. A complete solution would require a BPM
>> orchestration environment and real code that would actually call node
>> instances deployed in a cloud.
>>
>> Once the BPMN process is imported into BPM software, you may include this
>> process as a sub-process within other BPM processes. The workflow may or
>> may not hand control back to another sub-process, so that it may or may not
>> be a continuation of a control loop.
>> Policies and Policy Triggers
>>
>> Policy triggers are also translated into BPMN processes. Because the
>> trigger must be executed from within an orchestrator on node instances
>> deployed in a cloud, within configurable time intervals or schedules, this
>> BPM process essentially hands over control of the loop to the orchestrator.
>> By launching a new sub-process when triggered, control is handed back to
>> the business process: an open loop.
>>
>> A single scriptTask entity is created for each target node of the
>> policy, and all are executed in parallel using diverging/converging
>> parallel gateways. A conditional gateway at the convergence is used to
>> launch a new sub-process if any of the tasks succeed. Again, the 

Re: [E] Re: [onap-discuss] [SO] Weekly Meeting Minutes 7-25-2018

2018-07-27 Thread Steve Smokowski
Next week I would like to cover the newer BB refactor we did in BPMN, and give 
some thoughts on how that would integrate into the solution that you have 
presented here.  Essentially delegating that top layer entirely to TOSCA to 
orchestrate the E2E flow.  I think we are not all that far off from re-using 
being able to re-use our BPMN artifacts, and still hand off the end to end flow 
to TOSCA entirely.
On Jul 27, 2018, at 7:28 AM, Viswanath V Kumar Skand Priya 
mailto:viswanath.kumarskandpr...@verizon.com>>
 wrote:

Dear All / SO team,

During last SO call, I was caught inbetween 2 calls and wan't able to 
participate in SO call, was largely in hearing mode. I would like to add few 
points esp on the perspectives raised by Seshu ( reuse existing BPMN and do 
something about it ) & Alex ( adding HEAT / TOSCA backend for puccini ).

One of the motivation behind this PoC ( atleast for me ) is to bridge gap 
between BPMN driven orchestration ( imperative style ) Vs TOSCA driven 
orchestration ( declarative style ). It is also important to note that, both 
styles has its own merits / demerits and both are suitable for specific set of 
use-cases. However in a typical service provider landscape, esp with the advent 
of NFV, the boundary between network orchestration & IT orchestration is 
becoming more fuzzy. We would normally need the flexibility of doing both 
styles.

IMHO TOSCA is well suited for "expressing" what you want to do and what steps 
you want to take in doing that thing. However BPMN is really suited to actually 
"do" that orchestration. In current ONAP story ( where we don't have E2E TOSCA 
), if I want to create a network service with a specific work flow, I have to 
"design a BPMN" for my case and then tie it with the engine. Though one can 
argue that, BPMNs are resuable, they are already abstract , they can be tied / 
chained with each other etc, practically it is still a complex process. TOSCA 
on other hands helps us to define what we want in more flexible & extendable 
way. So the idea here is to express what you want to do in TOSCA and execute it 
via BPMN. Thereby we get best of both worlds, with minimal impact to existing 
architecture.

Now coming to the perspectives :

  *   Re-use existing BPMN : Like I quoted above, the idea is to generate a 
BPMN flow dynamically from input TOSCA. This can be further refined to hook up 
with existing BPMN if it makes sense. The crux of this idea is to let the 
designer work completely in TOSCA mode even for workflows and then share the 
same in standard format for future purposes.
  *   Having HEAT / TOSCA backend : I second Tal's view on this one. IMHO SO 
shouldn't be coupled with controller logic and SO's core logic should be based 
on BPMN. It is the BPMN engine which is at the heart of SO, which is making SO 
as a SO. Addition of new controller logic ( HEAT / any other format ) should 
follow existing adapter logic in SO, thereby it is extendable & scalable. This 
idea / PoC is actually providing a "friendly" wrapper on top of BPMN. that's it.

Hope this sets the stage for future discussions on this topic.

@Tal Liron<mailto:tli...@redhat.com> : It was a great show !

BR,
Viswa

[http://ss7.vzw.com/is/image/VerizonWireless/vz-sig-verizon?$defaultscale$]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.verizon.com=DwMFaQ=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg=shs6nPzThSiGJml9VXN0Eg=_7HB2lj9Jl-oIgvmXgZiChFxXitstQ0ypVnHFgkjJwE=aiTojQmzLbgvSchz3l5WyGigijkg5mzUJWrGWnE98d4=>

Viswanath Kumar Skand Priya
Senior Architect
Technology, Architecture & Planning



On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 6:39 PM Steve Smokowski 
mailto:ss8...@att.com>> wrote:
Thank you for the readme

-Steve


From: mailto:onap-discuss@lists.onap.org>> on 
behalf of Tal Liron mailto:tli...@redhat.com>>
Reply-To: "onap-discuss@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-discuss@lists.onap.org>" 
mailto:onap-discuss@lists.onap.org>>, 
"tli...@redhat.com<mailto:tli...@redhat.com>" 
mailto:tli...@redhat.com>>
Date: Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 9:07 AM
To: onap-discuss 
mailto:onap-discuss@lists.onap.org>>
Subject: Re: [onap-discuss] [SO] Weekly Meeting Minutes 7-25-2018

Hi Steve,

At your request I wrote a detailed README describing the solution and the 
example: 
https://github.com/tliron/puccini-bpmn/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_tliron_puccini-2Dbpmn_=DwMFaQ=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg=shs6nPzThSiGJml9VXN0Eg=JzO-UjYTbJGUMdAp-GBJsvFFs6ShpUxOx1OcnoUcxyA=wl1FD1fND7cuPeOEzE0FYxXfWxXz4hQcW_2AWtLRQdA=>

For convenience, I will reproduce it here:
Features

The imports directory has everything needed to generate BPMN from TOSCA. 
Specifically there is 
bpmn.yaml<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_tliron_puccini-2Dbpmn_blob_master_imports_bpmn.yaml=DwMFaQ=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg=shs6nPzThSiGJml9VXN0Eg=Jz

Re: [E] Re: [onap-discuss] [SO] Weekly Meeting Minutes 7-25-2018

2018-07-27 Thread Viswanath Kumar Skand Priya via Lists.Onap.Org
Dear All / SO team,

During last SO call, I was caught inbetween 2 calls and wan't able to
participate in SO call, was largely in hearing mode. I would like to add
few points esp on the perspectives raised by Seshu ( reuse existing BPMN
and do something about it ) & Alex ( adding HEAT / TOSCA backend for
puccini ).

One of the motivation behind this PoC ( atleast for me ) is to bridge gap
between BPMN driven orchestration ( imperative style ) Vs TOSCA driven
orchestration ( declarative style ). It is also important to note that,
both styles has its own merits / demerits and both are suitable for
specific set of use-cases. However in a typical service provider landscape,
esp with the advent of NFV, the boundary between network orchestration & IT
orchestration is becoming more fuzzy. We would normally need the
flexibility of doing both styles.

IMHO TOSCA is well suited for "expressing" what you want to do and what
steps you want to take in doing that thing. However BPMN is really suited
to actually "do" that orchestration. In current ONAP story ( where we don't
have E2E TOSCA ), if I want to create a network service with a specific
work flow, I have to "design a BPMN" for my case and then tie it with the
engine. Though one can argue that, BPMNs are resuable, they are already
abstract , they can be tied / chained with each other etc, practically it
is still a complex process. TOSCA on other hands helps us to define what we
want in more flexible & extendable way. So the idea here is to express what
you want to do in TOSCA and execute it via BPMN. Thereby we get best of
both worlds, with minimal impact to existing architecture.

Now coming to the perspectives :

   - Re-use existing BPMN : Like I quoted above, the idea is to generate a
   BPMN flow dynamically from input TOSCA. This can be further refined to hook
   up with existing BPMN if it makes sense. The crux of this idea is to let
   the designer work completely in TOSCA mode even for workflows and then
   share the same in standard format for future purposes.
   - Having HEAT / TOSCA backend : I second Tal's view on this one. IMHO SO
   shouldn't be coupled with controller logic and SO's core logic should be
   based on BPMN. It is the BPMN engine which is at the heart of SO, which is
   making SO as a SO. Addition of new controller logic ( HEAT / any other
   format ) should follow existing adapter logic in SO, thereby it is
   extendable & scalable. This idea / PoC is actually providing a "friendly"
   wrapper on top of BPMN. that's it.

Hope this sets the stage for future discussions on this topic.

@Tal Liron  : It was a great show !

BR,
Viswa

<http://www.verizon.com>

Viswanath Kumar Skand Priya
Senior Architect
Technology, Architecture & Planning



On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 6:39 PM Steve Smokowski  wrote:

> Thank you for the readme
>
>
>
> -Steve
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: * on behalf of Tal Liron <
> tli...@redhat.com>
> *Reply-To: *"onap-discuss@lists.onap.org" , "
> tli...@redhat.com" 
> *Date: *Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 9:07 AM
> *To: *onap-discuss 
> *Subject: *Re: [onap-discuss] [SO] Weekly Meeting Minutes 7-25-2018
>
>
>
> Hi Steve,
>
>
>
> At your request I wrote a detailed README describing the solution and the
> example: https://github.com/tliron/puccini-bpmn/
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_tliron_puccini-2Dbpmn_=DwMFaQ=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg=shs6nPzThSiGJml9VXN0Eg=JzO-UjYTbJGUMdAp-GBJsvFFs6ShpUxOx1OcnoUcxyA=wl1FD1fND7cuPeOEzE0FYxXfWxXz4hQcW_2AWtLRQdA=>
>
>
>
> For convenience, I will reproduce it here:
> Features
>
> The imports directory has everything needed to generate BPMN from TOSCA.
> Specifically there is bpmn.yaml
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_tliron_puccini-2Dbpmn_blob_master_imports_bpmn.yaml=DwMFaQ=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg=shs6nPzThSiGJml9VXN0Eg=JzO-UjYTbJGUMdAp-GBJsvFFs6ShpUxOx1OcnoUcxyA=dNdhlhIFjwpk0aq_f8qmQwtK36nT7UKlnz8_Buf8VCU=>,
> which has the type information and in turn imports bpmn.js
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_tliron_puccini-2Dbpmn_blob_master_imports_bpmn.js=DwMFaQ=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg=shs6nPzThSiGJml9VXN0Eg=JzO-UjYTbJGUMdAp-GBJsvFFs6ShpUxOx1OcnoUcxyA=VdPzf1BX7bl-4ZxS7AMZr4PzzMsiuH0fg6bg8tJg31o=>,
> which is the JavaScript code to generate BPMN.
>
> Two TOSCA features (introduced in TOSCA 1.1) are supported:
> Workflows
>
> TOSCA declarative workflows are translated into BPMN processes. Because a
> TOSCA workflow is essentially a graph of steps with sequential and parallel
> sections, in BPMN we must represent the graph using parallel gateways,
> diverging or converging as the case may be, as well as conditional gateways
> to represent step succ

Re: [onap-discuss] [SO] Weekly Meeting Minutes 7-25-2018

2018-07-26 Thread Steve Smokowski
Thank you for the readme

-Steve


From:  on behalf of Tal Liron 
Reply-To: "onap-discuss@lists.onap.org" , 
"tli...@redhat.com" 
Date: Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 9:07 AM
To: onap-discuss 
Subject: Re: [onap-discuss] [SO] Weekly Meeting Minutes 7-25-2018

Hi Steve,

At your request I wrote a detailed README describing the solution and the 
example: 
https://github.com/tliron/puccini-bpmn/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_tliron_puccini-2Dbpmn_=DwMFaQ=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg=shs6nPzThSiGJml9VXN0Eg=JzO-UjYTbJGUMdAp-GBJsvFFs6ShpUxOx1OcnoUcxyA=wl1FD1fND7cuPeOEzE0FYxXfWxXz4hQcW_2AWtLRQdA=>

For convenience, I will reproduce it here:
Features

The imports directory has everything needed to generate BPMN from TOSCA. 
Specifically there is 
bpmn.yaml<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_tliron_puccini-2Dbpmn_blob_master_imports_bpmn.yaml=DwMFaQ=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg=shs6nPzThSiGJml9VXN0Eg=JzO-UjYTbJGUMdAp-GBJsvFFs6ShpUxOx1OcnoUcxyA=dNdhlhIFjwpk0aq_f8qmQwtK36nT7UKlnz8_Buf8VCU=>,
 which has the type information and in turn imports 
bpmn.js<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_tliron_puccini-2Dbpmn_blob_master_imports_bpmn.js=DwMFaQ=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg=shs6nPzThSiGJml9VXN0Eg=JzO-UjYTbJGUMdAp-GBJsvFFs6ShpUxOx1OcnoUcxyA=VdPzf1BX7bl-4ZxS7AMZr4PzzMsiuH0fg6bg8tJg31o=>,
 which is the JavaScript code to generate BPMN.

Two TOSCA features (introduced in TOSCA 1.1) are supported:

Workflows

TOSCA declarative workflows are translated into BPMN processes. Because a TOSCA 
workflow is essentially a graph of steps with sequential and parallel sections, 
in BPMN we must represent the graph using parallel gateways, diverging or 
converging as the case may be, as well as conditional gateways to represent 
step success or failure. The JavaScript analyzes the graph and inserts the 
appropriate gateways between the steps.

Each step in TOSCA comprises zero or more activities that should happen in 
sequence. In BPMN, all the activities in the step become a single scriptTask 
entity. For now, we create a script made of pseudo-code that calls these 
activities. A complete solution would require a BPM orchestration environment 
and real code that would actually call node instances deployed in a cloud.

Once the BPMN process is imported into BPM software, you may include this 
process as a sub-process within other BPM processes. The workflow may or may 
not hand control back to another sub-process, so that it may or may not be a 
continuation of a control loop.

Policies and Policy Triggers

Policy triggers are also translated into BPMN processes. Because the trigger 
must be executed from within an orchestrator on node instances deployed in a 
cloud, within configurable time intervals or schedules, this BPM process 
essentially hands over control of the loop to the orchestrator. By launching a 
new sub-process when triggered, control is handed back to the business process: 
an open loop.

A single scriptTask entity is created for each target node of the policy, and 
all are executed in parallel using diverging/converging parallel gateways. A 
conditional gateway at the convergence is used to launch a new sub-process if 
any of the tasks succeed. Again, the script is made of pseudo-code that would 
call these operations within a BPM orchestration environment.

Example

Included is an example TOSCA service template, 
open-loop.yaml<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_tliron_puccini-2Dbpmn_blob_master_open-2Dloop.yaml=DwMFaQ=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg=shs6nPzThSiGJml9VXN0Eg=JzO-UjYTbJGUMdAp-GBJsvFFs6ShpUxOx1OcnoUcxyA=iFiYk9ow9wzmmdlb6vlHRxxebiWlYuh81k74D7Y7JJo=>.
 This example demonstrates an open loop policy, notify_on_high_load, which has 
a trigger that runs an operation to get the CPU load on Compute nodes. If this 
operation returns true then a BPM process named NotifyUser would be launched.

Also included is a TOSCA workflow named backup, which comprises a step graph 
that calls an operation on an interface while making sure to set node states, 
notify on failure, etc. This generated BPMN process can be executed on its own, 
or included as a sub-process within larger business processes. Because it does 
not hand control back to any other process when done, it represents an end 
event within a control loop.

We've already included sample output of this example in 
open-loop.bpmn2<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_tliron_puccini-2Dbpmn_blob_master_open-2Dloop.bpmn2=DwMFaQ=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg=shs6nPzThSiGJml9VXN0Eg=JzO-UjYTbJGUMdAp-GBJsvFFs6ShpUxOx1OcnoUcxyA=NrBOWJ3QNr7UKdyvZrEe3PCrzZBRve65REH0-SnF72A=>.

To recreate the output, run this command (tested with Puccini 0.2):

puccini-tosca compile open-loop.yaml | puccini-js exec bpmn -o open-loop.bpmn2

Also included is 
open-loop-design.bpmn2<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-

Re: [onap-discuss] [SO] Weekly Meeting Minutes 7-25-2018

2018-07-26 Thread Tal Liron
Hi Steve,

At your request I wrote a detailed README describing the solution and the
example: https://github.com/tliron/puccini-bpmn/

For convenience, I will reproduce it here:
Features

The imports directory has everything needed to generate BPMN from TOSCA.
Specifically there is bpmn.yaml
,
which has the type information and in turn imports bpmn.js
, which
is the JavaScript code to generate BPMN.

Two TOSCA features (introduced in TOSCA 1.1) are supported:
Workflows

TOSCA declarative workflows are translated into BPMN processes. Because a
TOSCA workflow is essentially a graph of steps with sequential and parallel
sections, in BPMN we must represent the graph using parallel gateways,
diverging or converging as the case may be, as well as conditional gateways
to represent step success or failure. The JavaScript analyzes the graph and
inserts the appropriate gateways between the steps.

Each step in TOSCA comprises zero or more activities that should happen in
sequence. In BPMN, all the activities in the step become a single scriptTask
entity. For now, we create a script made of pseudo-code that calls these
activities. A complete solution would require a BPM orchestration
environment and real code that would actually call node instances deployed
in a cloud.

Once the BPMN process is imported into BPM software, you may include this
process as a sub-process within other BPM processes. The workflow may or
may not hand control back to another sub-process, so that it may or may not
be a continuation of a control loop.
Policies
and Policy Triggers

Policy triggers are also translated into BPMN processes. Because the
trigger must be executed from within an orchestrator on node instances
deployed in a cloud, within configurable time intervals or schedules, this
BPM process essentially hands over control of the loop to the orchestrator.
By launching a new sub-process when triggered, control is handed back to
the business process: an open loop.

A single scriptTask entity is created for each target node of the policy,
and all are executed in parallel using diverging/converging parallel
gateways. A conditional gateway at the convergence is used to launch a new
sub-process if any of the tasks succeed. Again, the script is made of
pseudo-code that would call these operations within a BPM orchestration
environment.
Example

Included is an example TOSCA service template, open-loop.yaml
. This
example demonstrates an open loop policy, notify_on_high_load, which has a
trigger that runs an operation to get the CPU load on Compute nodes. If
this operation returns true then a BPM process named NotifyUser would be
launched.

Also included is a TOSCA workflow named backup, which comprises a step
graph that calls an operation on an interface while making sure to set node
states, notify on failure, etc. This generated BPMN process can be executed
on its own, or included as a sub-process within larger business processes.
Because it does not hand control back to any other process when done, it
represents an end event within a control loop.

We've already included sample output of this example in open-loop.bpmn2
.

To recreate the output, run this command (tested with Puccini 0.2):

puccini-tosca compile open-loop.yaml | puccini-js exec bpmn -o open-loop.bpmn2

Also included is open-loop-design.bpmn2
,
which is the same file with added diagram information so that it would
appear more nicely in a BPMN GUI. We used the Eclipse BPMN2 modeler
 to edit the diagram.

You can import either file into your BPM software. Tested with jBPM
 7.8.0.

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 6:51 AM Steve Smokowski  wrote:

> Is there a readme or walkthrough of how we can reproduce the demo shown?
> Or can you share the command used to take Puccini and have it output the
> bpmn?
>
>
>
> It appears to be something like
>
>
>
> -Parse CSAR using Puccini
>
> -Output to Clout
>
> -Utilize Clout output to the javascript file to transform to bpmn
>
>

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Re: [onap-discuss] [SO] Weekly Meeting Minutes 7-25-2018

2018-07-26 Thread Steve Smokowski
Is there a readme or walkthrough of how we can reproduce the demo shown?  Or 
can you share the command used to take Puccini and have it output the bpmn?

It appears to be something like

-Parse CSAR using Puccini
-Output to Clout
-Utilize Clout output to the javascript file to transform to bpmn

Thanks

-Steve


From:  on behalf of Tal Liron 
Reply-To: "onap-discuss@lists.onap.org" , 
"tli...@redhat.com" 
Date: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 at 12:55 PM
To: onap-discuss , Seshu m 

Subject: Re: [onap-discuss] [SO] Weekly Meeting Minutes 7-25-2018

Hi Seshu,

I'm getting numerous private requests for a recording of the meeting. Did you 
end up recording?

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 11:01 AM Tal Liron 
mailto:tli...@redhat.com>> wrote:
Thank you all for participating in my TOSCA/BPMN demonstration.

We can continue brainstorming ideas here on the mailing list rather than 
waiting for next week's meeting. In general it's a good idea to use email more 
for discussion, as it encourages more visibility and participation.

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 9:37 AM Marcus G K Williams 
mailto:marcus.willi...@intel.com>> wrote:
https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/SO+Weekly+Meeting+7-25-2018<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.onap.org_display_DW_SO-2BWeekly-2BMeeting-2B7-2D25-2D2018=DwMFaQ=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg=shs6nPzThSiGJml9VXN0Eg=n5v6m61-xl-pff6EuQeZvxTNeaQ0jiBKUj1qNRlthMg=SdPqMr5J44n8G5K8JCxjVY6RH_d-3x18mAV7Cep_XjQ=>

Thanks,

Marcus Williams
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Re: [onap-discuss] [SO] Weekly Meeting Minutes 7-25-2018

2018-07-25 Thread Tal Liron
Hi Seshu,

I'm getting numerous private requests for a recording of the meeting. Did
you end up recording?

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 11:01 AM Tal Liron  wrote:

> Thank you all for participating in my TOSCA/BPMN demonstration.
>
> We can continue brainstorming ideas here on the mailing list rather than
> waiting for next week's meeting. In general it's a good idea to use email
> more for discussion, as it encourages more visibility and participation.
>
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 9:37 AM Marcus G K Williams <
> marcus.willi...@intel.com> wrote:
>
>> https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/SO+Weekly+Meeting+7-25-2018
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Marcus Williams
>>
>> IRC, Twitter, etc. @ mgkwill
>>
>> Intel Corp.
>>
>>
>> 
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>

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Re: [onap-discuss] [SO] Weekly Meeting Minutes 7-25-2018

2018-07-25 Thread Tal Liron
Thank you all for participating in my TOSCA/BPMN demonstration.

We can continue brainstorming ideas here on the mailing list rather than
waiting for next week's meeting. In general it's a good idea to use email
more for discussion, as it encourages more visibility and participation.

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 9:37 AM Marcus G K Williams <
marcus.willi...@intel.com> wrote:

> https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/SO+Weekly+Meeting+7-25-2018
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Marcus Williams
>
> IRC, Twitter, etc. @ mgkwill
>
> Intel Corp.
>
>
> 
>

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2018-07-25 Thread Marcus G K Williams
https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/SO+Weekly+Meeting+7-25-2018

Thanks,

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[onap-discuss][SO] Weekly MEETING CANCELLED due to July 4th holiday in USA

2018-07-04 Thread seshu kumar m
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The SO weekly meeting has been cancelled due to the July 4th holiday in USA.

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[onap-discuss] SO weekly meeting change as per DST

2018-03-12 Thread Seshu m
Dear Fellow SO ONAPers,

In due to the DST change in US and Europe, the SO weekly meeting tomorrow would 
be held @ Wed UTC 13:30 / China 21:30 / Eastern 09:30 / Pacific 06:30
one hour earlier in other parts (Non Daylight following nations).


Best regards
Seshu Kumar M
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Re: [onap-discuss] SO weekly meeting

2017-11-22 Thread DAUGHERTY, ROBERT E
Seshu is on a business trip and will not be available for this meeting.

I propose that we meet 1 hour later than this scheduled time (i.e. at the old 
time: 9:30 US ET).   Since Seshu is the organizer, I don't think I can change 
the calendar appointment.  The main thing I want to discuss is creating an 
Amsterdam branch for SO, which shouldn't take long.

Rob

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Subject: FW: SO weekly meeting
When: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 7:00 PM-8:00 PM (UTC+05:30) Chennai, 
Kolkata, Mumbai, New Delhi.
Where:


When: Occurs every Wednesday effective 8/16/2017 from 7:00 PM to 8:00 PM 
(UTC+05:30) Chennai, Kolkata, Mumbai, New Delhi.

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Re: [onap-discuss] [so] Weekly Meeting

2017-08-16 Thread Manoj K Nair
Hi Seshu,

In today’s SO meeting you mentioned about the bifurcation to Imperative BPMN 
flow and Existing MSO BPMN flow . Can you please clarify how this bifurcation 
is carried out. I just checked the implementation of API handler – 
ServiceInstances.java and found that - String requestJSON, Action action, 
HashMap instanceIdMap, String version parameters are passed for 
Service instantiation . Further  getServiceInstanceOrchestrationURI is used to 
look up the Recipe from Catalog DB.

Can you please confirm if the BPMN URL is selected based on 
msoRequest.getModelInfo().getModelType() ?  Can you please clarify what logic 
is applied for selection of BPMN flow and delegation.

Additionally , is this going to change, because 
here
 there is a proposal to have a generic workflow engine with Camunda and WSO2 
plugins.

Thanks

Manoj

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[so] Weekly Meeting
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