Re: [onap-discuss] Question on SDC

[Rozin, Eden]

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Subject: Question on SDC

Hi, Michael and Helmi

I’m working for UseCase UI project and found that there is a relationship 
between UseCase UI and VID project.
I’ve looked through the VID proposal and have some questions about VID project.
Could you help me to confirm questions about VID project. Thank you very much.


1.  Is VID project planning to provide a portal component which will 
integrate into Portal Platform?

Eden Rozin: Yes. VID is a portal which is integrated to the Portal Platform 
(i.e. ONAP/ECOMP Portal).



2.  If VID project provides a portal component, what detail functions will 
be provided?

UseCase UI project will support managements of service & VNF lifecycle, I don’t 
know whether VID has a duplicate scope because there is service & VNF 
description in VID scope.



Eden Rozin: VID mission is to instantiate a Service Model by providing specific 
assignment to the model (e.g. target location of the service, specific 
assignment according to the location, specific configuring, etc.); moreover, 
VID is also the portal to perform Change-Management activities such as upgrade 
of software, configuration and licenses; you can view VID as the Portal for Ops 
to perform Instantiation and Maintenance operations of Services.



3.  In UseCase UI proposal, seed code is linking to VID’s repo 
(https://gerrit.onap.org/r/#/admin/projects/vid).

Does it mean that VID repo is currently including seed code of UseCase UI (vCPE 
or VoLTE)?

This involves question2 that I don’t know why UseCase UI’s seed code is in 
VID’s repo.


Best regards,
Tao Shen


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Re: [onap-discuss] question on SDC

[Ramu n]

Thanks Daniel Rose for the reply..

Please clarify my second question.

Regards,
Ramu N

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Subject: RE: [onap-discuss] question on SDC

You can have sensible defaults in SDC that would apply to basic use cases, but 
properties can be replaced when they are used so someone reusing the service 
can decide if the defaults make sense for them. Or like Tal said, just leave 
them blank and force them to be filled in by the service designer or at runtime.

Daniel Rose
ECOMP / ONAP
com.att.ecomp
732-420-7308

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Subject: Re: [onap-discuss] question on SDC

Hi Tal Halfon,

Thanks for the reply..

i agree with you that during Design-time user can set HEAT env files with 
actual cloud infrastructure details.

But as SDC catalog maintain the Resources(VFC/VNF), Services(VF), products as a 
re-usable building blocks. so i am trying understand how re-suability of these 
building blocks is achieved.
i can think Resources(VNFs) can be reused during Service Design-time(by 
updating the VNFs HEAT env parameters)..
and Service(VF) can be reused during deployment(Run-time) through VID for 
different tenants, so Run-time may be need to modify HEAT env parameters based 
on the tenant.

Please correct me if I am missing something.

Regards,
Ramu N

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Subject: RE: [onap-discuss] question on SDC

Hi Ramu

Let me clarify my answer below

- ENV file set default values, so in some case user would want to set values 
that in normal flow will be run time just for making testing/certification 
easier.
Saying the above, ONAP do recommend that for production, HEAT env file will 
include only pseudo constant values (design time parameters) and not run time


Best regards
Tal Halfon

Development Manager @ Amdocs

P. +972 54 2213763

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Cc: Aruna kumar padhi <aruna.pa...@huawei.com<mailto:aruna.pa...@huawei.com>>
Subject: Re: [onap-discuss] question on SDC

Hi Ramu

Regarding the first Q, The env file in the heat is used as default value, in 
run time different values can be provided.



Best regards
Tal Halfon

Development Manager @ Amdocs

P. +972 54 2213763

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Subject: [onap-discuss] question on SDC

Dear All,

1)
as mentioned in 
https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Pre-Onboarding<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.onap.org_display_DW_Pre-2DOnboarding=DwMFAg=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg=2wwdGZ3YcpSivQ2Kio028A=D5qX4-os8wmh071caa73K9tVXkPYiiVrFcqCrF

Re: [onap-discuss] question on SDC

[ROSE, DANIEL V]

You can have sensible defaults in SDC that would apply to basic use cases, but 
properties can be replaced when they are used so someone reusing the service 
can decide if the defaults make sense for them. Or like Tal said, just leave 
them blank and force them to be filled in by the service designer or at runtime.

Daniel Rose
ECOMP / ONAP
com.att.ecomp
732-420-7308

From: onap-discuss-boun...@lists.onap.org 
[mailto:onap-discuss-boun...@lists.onap.org] On Behalf Of Ramu n
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 10:27 AM
To: onap-discuss@lists.onap.org
Cc: Aruna kumar padhi <aruna.pa...@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [onap-discuss] question on SDC

Hi Tal Halfon,

Thanks for the reply..

i agree with you that during Design-time user can set HEAT env files with 
actual cloud infrastructure details.

But as SDC catalog maintain the Resources(VFC/VNF), Services(VF), products as a 
re-usable building blocks. so i am trying understand how re-suability of these 
building blocks is achieved.
i can think Resources(VNFs) can be reused during Service Design-time(by 
updating the VNFs HEAT env parameters)..
and Service(VF) can be reused during deployment(Run-time) through VID for 
different tenants, so Run-time may be need to modify HEAT env parameters based 
on the tenant.

Please correct me if I am missing something.

Regards,
Ramu N

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From: Halfon Tal [mailto:halfon@amdocs.com]
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Cc: Aruna kumar padhi
Subject: RE: [onap-discuss] question on SDC

Hi Ramu

Let me clarify my answer below

- ENV file set default values, so in some case user would want to set values 
that in normal flow will be run time just for making testing/certification 
easier.
Saying the above, ONAP do recommend that for production, HEAT env file will 
include only pseudo constant values (design time parameters) and not run time


Best regards
Tal Halfon

Development Manager @ Amdocs

P. +972 54 2213763

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Cc: Aruna kumar padhi <aruna.pa...@huawei.com<mailto:aruna.pa...@huawei.com>>
Subject: Re: [onap-discuss] question on SDC

Hi Ramu

Regarding the first Q, The env file in the heat is used as default value, in 
run time different values can be provided.



Best regards
Tal Halfon

Development Manager @ Amdocs

P. +972 54 2213763

From: 
onap-discuss-boun...@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-discuss-boun...@lists.onap.org> 
[mailto:onap-discuss-boun...@lists.onap.org] On Behalf Of Ramu n
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Cc: Aruna kumar padhi <aruna.pa...@huawei.com<mailto:aruna.pa...@huawei.com>>
Subject: [onap-discuss] question on SDC

Dear All,

1)
as mentioned in 
https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Pre-Onboarding<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.onap.org_display_DW_Pre-2DOnboarding=DwMFAg=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg=2wwdGZ3YcpSivQ2Kio028A=D5qX4-os8wmh071caa73K9tVXkPYiiVrFcqCrFFuTbM=4C-C4rRdE_QsFlt_a5n4QGIWT4m745NL0pL2HUZMTRM=>
 link, create a tenant and note tenant ID
and in 
https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Resource+Onboarding#ResourceOnboarding-CVSPCreateaVendorSoftwareProduct<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.onap.org_display_DW_Resource-2BOnboarding-23ResourceOnboarding-2DCVSPCreateaVendorSoftwareProduct=DwMFAg=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg=2wwdGZ3YcpSivQ2Kio028A=D5qX4-os8wmh071caa73K9tVXkPYiiVrFcqCrFFuTbM=-85guX4eRabjNRJ3Chp_S7Iv8I1GO_pRcIs6R99kqJQ=>
 link, attach Heat.zip package to the Vendor Software Product which contain 
Heat template & env files.
As the Heat env contains the environment parameters (like Tenant, Network 
details) which are Service provider's cloud infrastructure details.
why these environment parameters need to be provided during 
Design-time(On-boarding), because i think these are required only during 
Run-time(Instantiation).

2)
>From the below diagram, as per my understanding Stage-1(VNF Provider) is out 
>

Re: [onap-discuss] question on SDC

[Ramu n]

Hi Tal Halfon,

Thanks for the reply..

i agree with you that during Design-time user can set HEAT env files with 
actual cloud infrastructure details.

But as SDC catalog maintain the Resources(VFC/VNF), Services(VF), products as a 
re-usable building blocks. so i am trying understand how re-suability of these 
building blocks is achieved.
i can think Resources(VNFs) can be reused during Service Design-time(by 
updating the VNFs HEAT env parameters)..
and Service(VF) can be reused during deployment(Run-time) through VID for 
different tenants, so Run-time may be need to modify HEAT env parameters based 
on the tenant.

Please correct me if I am missing something.

Regards,
Ramu N

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From: Halfon Tal [mailto:halfon@amdocs.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 5:35 PM
To: Ramu n; onap-discuss@lists.onap.org
Cc: Aruna kumar padhi
Subject: RE: [onap-discuss] question on SDC

Hi Ramu

Let me clarify my answer below

- ENV file set default values, so in some case user would want to set values 
that in normal flow will be run time just for making testing/certification 
easier.
Saying the above, ONAP do recommend that for production, HEAT env file will 
include only pseudo constant values (design time parameters) and not run time


Best regards
Tal Halfon

Development Manager @ Amdocs

P. +972 54 2213763

From: 
onap-discuss-boun...@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-discuss-boun...@lists.onap.org> 
[mailto:onap-discuss-boun...@lists.onap.org] On Behalf Of Halfon Tal
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 2:39 PM
To: Ramu n <ram...@huawei.com<mailto:ram...@huawei.com>>; 
onap-discuss@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-discuss@lists.onap.org>
Cc: Aruna kumar padhi <aruna.pa...@huawei.com<mailto:aruna.pa...@huawei.com>>
Subject: Re: [onap-discuss] question on SDC

Hi Ramu

Regarding the first Q, The env file in the heat is used as default value, in 
run time different values can be provided.



Best regards
Tal Halfon

Development Manager @ Amdocs

P. +972 54 2213763

From: 
onap-discuss-boun...@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-discuss-boun...@lists.onap.org> 
[mailto:onap-discuss-boun...@lists.onap.org] On Behalf Of Ramu n
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 1:44 PM
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Cc: Aruna kumar padhi <aruna.pa...@huawei.com<mailto:aruna.pa...@huawei.com>>
Subject: [onap-discuss] question on SDC

Dear All,

1)
as mentioned in https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Pre-Onboarding link, create a 
tenant and note tenant ID
and in 
https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Resource+Onboarding#ResourceOnboarding-CVSPCreateaVendorSoftwareProduct
 link, attach Heat.zip package to the Vendor Software Product which contain 
Heat template & env files.
As the Heat env contains the environment parameters (like Tenant, Network 
details) which are Service provider's cloud infrastructure details.
why these environment parameters need to be provided during 
Design-time(On-boarding), because i think these are required only during 
Run-time(Instantiation).

2)
>From the below diagram, as per my understanding Stage-1(VNF Provider) is out 
>of scope of ONAP, i.e. it is done in VNF Providers development environment.
[cid:image001.png@01D2D00F.BF207D30]

Please anyone clarify if my understanding is correct.

Regards,
Ramu N

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Re: [onap-discuss] question on SDC

[Halfon Tal]

Hi Ramu

Regarding the first Q, The env file in the heat is used as default value, in 
run time different values can be provided.



Best regards
Tal Halfon

Development Manager @ Amdocs

P. +972 54 2213763

From: onap-discuss-boun...@lists.onap.org 
[mailto:onap-discuss-boun...@lists.onap.org] On Behalf Of Ramu n
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 1:44 PM
To: onap-discuss@lists.onap.org
Cc: Aruna kumar padhi <aruna.pa...@huawei.com>
Subject: [onap-discuss] question on SDC

Dear All,

1)
as mentioned in https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Pre-Onboarding link, create a 
tenant and note tenant ID
and in 
https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Resource+Onboarding#ResourceOnboarding-CVSPCreateaVendorSoftwareProduct
 link, attach Heat.zip package to the Vendor Software Product which contain 
Heat template & env files.
As the Heat env contains the environment parameters (like Tenant, Network 
details) which are Service provider's cloud infrastructure details.
why these environment parameters need to be provided during 
Design-time(On-boarding), because i think these are required only during 
Run-time(Instantiation).

2)
>From the below diagram, as per my understanding Stage-1(VNF Provider) is out 
>of scope of ONAP, i.e. it is done in VNF Providers development environment.
[cid:image001.png@01D2CFE4.42DA46A0]

Please anyone clarify if my understanding is correct.

Regards,
Ramu N

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