Re: [PMC] Proposed Initial PMC List and process
On 9/25/12 8:35 PM, Andrew Rist wrote: I would like to propose the following list as the initial PMC for Apache OpenOffice, with a procedure for consolidating this list into a final list. * The list is made up of the names that received more than 3 nominations. This was a spot in the data that had a step. This produces a list of 23 names which is 'no too big, and not too small'. * We will reach out on list to the people on the list to verify their interest and commitment to the PMC. This may result in the removal of several names. * I want to avoid too much discussion on individual names, as all of the people who received nominations (and some who did not) have given a lot to this project. If there is a particular person who is missing from the list, who has overwhelming merit, they should be added to the list through a consensus process. * Note that this will be the initial PMC, and that one of the functions of the PMC going forward will be to identify those of considerable merit and add them to the PMC, continually refreshing the PMC to represent the project. Proposed Process: * 48 hour window to build consensus on this process moving forward (Tues-Wed) * 48 hour (+48 hour weekend) discussion period (Thurs-Fri + Sat Sun) - stabilization of the finalized Initial PMC List * 72 hour vote on the resulting list as the initial PMC list (ending next Wed.) I will support any further approach but why so complicate and not simply taking the whole list? Anyway I would like to propose that we start immediately to collect feedback from the people on the list to verify their interest and commitment in the PMC. A task that we have to do anyway. Proposed Working List: Andre Fischer (af) Andrea Pescetti (pescetti) Andrew Rist (arist) Ariel Constenla-Haile (arielch) Armin Le Grand (alg) Dave Fisher (wave) Donald Harbison (dpharbison) Drew Jensen (atjensen) Ian Lynch (ingotian) Jürgen Schmidt (jsc) I would accept and I am interested in growing our project and community via the PMC membership besides all other normal day to day activities that I am doing. Juergen Kay Schenk (kschenk) Kazunari Hirano (khirano) Louis Suarez-Potts (louis) Marcus Lange (marcus) Oliver-Rainer Wittmann (orw) Pedro Giffuni (pfg) Peter Junge (pj) Raphael Bircher (rbircher) Regina Henschel (regina) RGB.ES (rgb-es) Roberto Galoppini (galoppini) Yang Shih-Ching (imacat) Yong Lin Ma (mayongl)
Re: [PMC] Proposed Initial PMC List and process
Hi, On 25.09.2012 20:35, Andrew Rist wrote: I would like to propose the following list as the initial PMC for Apache OpenOffice, with a procedure for consolidating this list into a final list. * The list is made up of the names that received more than 3 nominations. This was a spot in the data that had a step. This produces a list of 23 names which is 'no too big, and not too small'. * We will reach out on list to the people on the list to verify their interest and commitment to the PMC. This may result in the removal of several names. * I want to avoid too much discussion on individual names, as all of the people who received nominations (and some who did not) have given a lot to this project. If there is a particular person who is missing from the list, who has overwhelming merit, they should be added to the list through a consensus process. * Note that this will be the initial PMC, and that one of the functions of the PMC going forward will be to identify those of considerable merit and add them to the PMC, continually refreshing the PMC to represent the project. Proposed Process: * 48 hour window to build consensus on this process moving forward (Tues-Wed) * 48 hour (+48 hour weekend) discussion period (Thurs-Fri + Sat Sun) - stabilization of the finalized Initial PMC List * 72 hour vote on the resulting list as the initial PMC list (ending next Wed.) I am fine with the overall proposed process. I am also open for the one or the other refinement/tuning. I think it is important to know, if the people on the list are willing to serve as PMC members. I will start a new thread for this. Best regards, Oliver. Proposed Working List: Andre Fischer (af) Andrea Pescetti (pescetti) Andrew Rist (arist) Ariel Constenla-Haile (arielch) Armin Le Grand (alg) Dave Fisher (wave) Donald Harbison (dpharbison) Drew Jensen (atjensen) Ian Lynch (ingotian) Jürgen Schmidt (jsc) Kay Schenk (kschenk) Kazunari Hirano (khirano) Louis Suarez-Potts (louis) Marcus Lange (marcus) Oliver-Rainer Wittmann (orw) Pedro Giffuni (pfg) Peter Junge (pj) Raphael Bircher (rbircher) Regina Henschel (regina) RGB.ES (rgb-es) Roberto Galoppini (galoppini) Yang Shih-Ching (imacat) Yong Lin Ma (mayongl)
Re: [PMC] Proposed Initial PMC List and process
Andrew, Thanks for this. I am excited to see a list we can accept and move forward with. I plan to continue to focus on our communications front as well as events, community and ecosystem development. My personal family emergency is mostly behind me now, and happily resolved, so I will become more active and visible now. Great job! On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Andrew Rist andrew.r...@oracle.com wrote: I would like to propose the following list as the initial PMC for Apache OpenOffice, with a procedure for consolidating this list into a final list. * The list is made up of the names that received more than 3 nominations. This was a spot in the data that had a step. This produces a list of 23 names which is 'no too big, and not too small'. * We will reach out on list to the people on the list to verify their interest and commitment to the PMC. This may result in the removal of several names. * I want to avoid too much discussion on individual names, as all of the people who received nominations (and some who did not) have given a lot to this project. If there is a particular person who is missing from the list, who has overwhelming merit, they should be added to the list through a consensus process. * Note that this will be the initial PMC, and that one of the functions of the PMC going forward will be to identify those of considerable merit and add them to the PMC, continually refreshing the PMC to represent the project. Proposed Process: * 48 hour window to build consensus on this process moving forward (Tues-Wed) * 48 hour (+48 hour weekend) discussion period (Thurs-Fri + Sat Sun) - stabilization of the finalized Initial PMC List * 72 hour vote on the resulting list as the initial PMC list (ending next Wed.) Proposed Working List: Andre Fischer (af) Andrea Pescetti (pescetti) Andrew Rist (arist) Ariel Constenla-Haile (arielch) Armin Le Grand (alg) Dave Fisher (wave) Donald Harbison (dpharbison) Drew Jensen (atjensen) Ian Lynch (ingotian) Jürgen Schmidt (jsc) Kay Schenk (kschenk) Kazunari Hirano (khirano) Louis Suarez-Potts (louis) Marcus Lange (marcus) Oliver-Rainer Wittmann (orw) Pedro Giffuni (pfg) Peter Junge (pj) Raphael Bircher (rbircher) Regina Henschel (regina) RGB.ES (rgb-es) Roberto Galoppini (galoppini) Yang Shih-Ching (imacat) Yong Lin Ma (mayongl)
[PMC] Proposed Initial PMC List and process
I would like to propose the following list as the initial PMC for Apache OpenOffice, with a procedure for consolidating this list into a final list. * The list is made up of the names that received more than 3 nominations. This was a spot in the data that had a step. This produces a list of 23 names which is 'no too big, and not too small'. * We will reach out on list to the people on the list to verify their interest and commitment to the PMC. This may result in the removal of several names. * I want to avoid too much discussion on individual names, as all of the people who received nominations (and some who did not) have given a lot to this project. If there is a particular person who is missing from the list, who has overwhelming merit, they should be added to the list through a consensus process. * Note that this will be the initial PMC, and that one of the functions of the PMC going forward will be to identify those of considerable merit and add them to the PMC, continually refreshing the PMC to represent the project. Proposed Process: * 48 hour window to build consensus on this process moving forward (Tues-Wed) * 48 hour (+48 hour weekend) discussion period (Thurs-Fri + Sat Sun) - stabilization of the finalized Initial PMC List * 72 hour vote on the resulting list as the initial PMC list (ending next Wed.) Proposed Working List: Andre Fischer (af) Andrea Pescetti (pescetti) Andrew Rist (arist) Ariel Constenla-Haile (arielch) Armin Le Grand (alg) Dave Fisher (wave) Donald Harbison (dpharbison) Drew Jensen (atjensen) Ian Lynch (ingotian) Jürgen Schmidt (jsc) Kay Schenk (kschenk) Kazunari Hirano (khirano) Louis Suarez-Potts (louis) Marcus Lange (marcus) Oliver-Rainer Wittmann (orw) Pedro Giffuni (pfg) Peter Junge (pj) Raphael Bircher (rbircher) Regina Henschel (regina) RGB.ES (rgb-es) Roberto Galoppini (galoppini) Yang Shih-Ching (imacat) Yong Lin Ma (mayongl)
Re: [PMC] Proposed Initial PMC List and process
Hi at all I think, we should also ask this people, if they are willing to contribute to the PMC. I find this realy important. A short statement from everyone on the list would be nice. Maybe also with a Comment if s/he is willing to take over a PMC Chair. Greetings Raphael Am 25.09.12 20:35, schrieb Andrew Rist: I would like to propose the following list as the initial PMC for Apache OpenOffice, with a procedure for consolidating this list into a final list. * The list is made up of the names that received more than 3 nominations. This was a spot in the data that had a step. This produces a list of 23 names which is 'no too big, and not too small'. * We will reach out on list to the people on the list to verify their interest and commitment to the PMC. This may result in the removal of several names. * I want to avoid too much discussion on individual names, as all of the people who received nominations (and some who did not) have given a lot to this project. If there is a particular person who is missing from the list, who has overwhelming merit, they should be added to the list through a consensus process. * Note that this will be the initial PMC, and that one of the functions of the PMC going forward will be to identify those of considerable merit and add them to the PMC, continually refreshing the PMC to represent the project. Proposed Process: * 48 hour window to build consensus on this process moving forward (Tues-Wed) * 48 hour (+48 hour weekend) discussion period (Thurs-Fri + Sat Sun) - stabilization of the finalized Initial PMC List * 72 hour vote on the resulting list as the initial PMC list (ending next Wed.) Proposed Working List: Andre Fischer (af) Andrea Pescetti (pescetti) Andrew Rist (arist) Ariel Constenla-Haile (arielch) Armin Le Grand (alg) Dave Fisher (wave) Donald Harbison (dpharbison) Drew Jensen (atjensen) Ian Lynch (ingotian) Jürgen Schmidt (jsc) Kay Schenk (kschenk) Kazunari Hirano (khirano) Louis Suarez-Potts (louis) Marcus Lange (marcus) Oliver-Rainer Wittmann (orw) Pedro Giffuni (pfg) Peter Junge (pj) Raphael Bircher (rbircher) Regina Henschel (regina) RGB.ES (rgb-es) Roberto Galoppini (galoppini) Yang Shih-Ching (imacat) Yong Lin Ma (mayongl)
[DISCUSS][PMC] Proposed Initial PMC List and process
My recommendation: 48-hour steps are too short. Take at least 72 minimums, state fixed UTC earliest-end date-times (so no one has to figure out when from now is), and maybe skip over weekend days. There's no rush. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Andrew Rist [mailto:andrew.r...@oracle.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 11:36 To: ooo-dev Subject: [PMC] Proposed Initial PMC List and process [ ... ] Proposed Process: * 48 hour window to build consensus on this process moving forward (Tues-Wed) * 48 hour (+48 hour weekend) discussion period (Thurs-Fri + Sat Sun) - stabilization of the finalized Initial PMC List * 72 hour vote on the resulting list as the initial PMC list (ending next Wed.) [ ... ]
Re: [PMC] Proposed Initial PMC List and process
Personally I think this is a great approach and love to see it progress Cheers Christian On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Andrew Rist andrew.r...@oracle.com wrote: I would like to propose the following list as the initial PMC for Apache OpenOffice, with a procedure for consolidating this list into a final list. * The list is made up of the names that received more than 3 nominations. This was a spot in the data that had a step. This produces a list of 23 names which is 'no too big, and not too small'. * We will reach out on list to the people on the list to verify their interest and commitment to the PMC. This may result in the removal of several names. * I want to avoid too much discussion on individual names, as all of the people who received nominations (and some who did not) have given a lot to this project. If there is a particular person who is missing from the list, who has overwhelming merit, they should be added to the list through a consensus process. * Note that this will be the initial PMC, and that one of the functions of the PMC going forward will be to identify those of considerable merit and add them to the PMC, continually refreshing the PMC to represent the project. Proposed Process: * 48 hour window to build consensus on this process moving forward (Tues-Wed) * 48 hour (+48 hour weekend) discussion period (Thurs-Fri + Sat Sun) - stabilization of the finalized Initial PMC List * 72 hour vote on the resulting list as the initial PMC list (ending next Wed.) Proposed Working List: Andre Fischer (af) Andrea Pescetti (pescetti) Andrew Rist (arist) Ariel Constenla-Haile (arielch) Armin Le Grand (alg) Dave Fisher (wave) Donald Harbison (dpharbison) Drew Jensen (atjensen) Ian Lynch (ingotian) Jürgen Schmidt (jsc) Kay Schenk (kschenk) Kazunari Hirano (khirano) Louis Suarez-Potts (louis) Marcus Lange (marcus) Oliver-Rainer Wittmann (orw) Pedro Giffuni (pfg) Peter Junge (pj) Raphael Bircher (rbircher) Regina Henschel (regina) RGB.ES (rgb-es) Roberto Galoppini (galoppini) Yang Shih-Ching (imacat) Yong Lin Ma (mayongl) -- http://www.grobmeier.de https://www.timeandbill.de
Re: [PMC] Proposed Initial PMC List and process
Andrew Rist wrote: * The list is made up of the names that received more than 3 nominations. This was a spot in the data that had a step. This produces a list of 23 names which is 'no too big, and not too small'. I had a look at numbers just to put this in context and: - The proposed 23 names would cover 90.47% (180/210) of the total nominations expressed by voters. - With the proposed list, everyone who voted would see at least 7 of their 10 nominees in the PMC. These numbers of course don't take into account several factors, but they may give a rough idea. Anyone can easily compute the same numbers for any possible list by using the ODS file. Note that https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/pmc/pmc-selection/PMCNominations.ods is missing a nomination (RGB nominated kschenk too): I noticed it while calculating the above statistics, so I considered it in my calculations but I didn't fix it in SVN. Regards, Andrea.
Re: [PMC] Proposed Initial PMC List and process
Hi Andrew, Great coverage. I think that this is a good group to move OpenOffice forward. I am +1 on a vote now and don't really see my opinion changing. I'll read the thread regardless. Well done! Dave On Sep 25, 2012, at 11:35 AM, Andrew Rist wrote: I would like to propose the following list as the initial PMC for Apache OpenOffice, with a procedure for consolidating this list into a final list. * The list is made up of the names that received more than 3 nominations. This was a spot in the data that had a step. This produces a list of 23 names which is 'no too big, and not too small'. * We will reach out on list to the people on the list to verify their interest and commitment to the PMC. This may result in the removal of several names. * I want to avoid too much discussion on individual names, as all of the people who received nominations (and some who did not) have given a lot to this project. If there is a particular person who is missing from the list, who has overwhelming merit, they should be added to the list through a consensus process. * Note that this will be the initial PMC, and that one of the functions of the PMC going forward will be to identify those of considerable merit and add them to the PMC, continually refreshing the PMC to represent the project. Proposed Process: * 48 hour window to build consensus on this process moving forward (Tues-Wed) * 48 hour (+48 hour weekend) discussion period (Thurs-Fri + Sat Sun) - stabilization of the finalized Initial PMC List * 72 hour vote on the resulting list as the initial PMC list (ending next Wed.) Proposed Working List: Andre Fischer (af) Andrea Pescetti (pescetti) Andrew Rist (arist) Ariel Constenla-Haile (arielch) Armin Le Grand (alg) Dave Fisher (wave) Donald Harbison (dpharbison) Drew Jensen (atjensen) Ian Lynch (ingotian) Jürgen Schmidt (jsc) Kay Schenk (kschenk) Kazunari Hirano (khirano) Louis Suarez-Potts (louis) Marcus Lange (marcus) Oliver-Rainer Wittmann (orw) Pedro Giffuni (pfg) Peter Junge (pj) Raphael Bircher (rbircher) Regina Henschel (regina) RGB.ES (rgb-es) Roberto Galoppini (galoppini) Yang Shih-Ching (imacat) Yong Lin Ma (mayongl)
Re: [PMC] Proposed Initial PMC List and process
2012/9/25 Andrew Rist andrew.r...@oracle.com I would like to propose the following list as the initial PMC for Apache OpenOffice, with a procedure for consolidating this list into a final list. * The list is made up of the names that received more than 3 nominations. This was a spot in the data that had a step. This produces a list of 23 names which is 'no too big, and not too small'. * We will reach out on list to the people on the list to verify their interest and commitment to the PMC. This may result in the removal of several names. * I want to avoid too much discussion on individual names, as all of the people who received nominations (and some who did not) have given a lot to this project. If there is a particular person who is missing from the list, who has overwhelming merit, they should be added to the list through a consensus process. * Note that this will be the initial PMC, and that one of the functions of the PMC going forward will be to identify those of considerable merit and add them to the PMC, continually refreshing the PMC to represent the project. Proposed Process: * 48 hour window to build consensus on this process moving forward (Tues-Wed) * 48 hour (+48 hour weekend) discussion period (Thurs-Fri + Sat Sun) - stabilization of the finalized Initial PMC List * 72 hour vote on the resulting list as the initial PMC list (ending next Wed.) +1 to all. Thanks Andrew for your work! Regards Ricardo Proposed Working List: Andre Fischer (af) Andrea Pescetti (pescetti) Andrew Rist (arist) Ariel Constenla-Haile (arielch) Armin Le Grand (alg) Dave Fisher (wave) Donald Harbison (dpharbison) Drew Jensen (atjensen) Ian Lynch (ingotian) Jürgen Schmidt (jsc) Kay Schenk (kschenk) Kazunari Hirano (khirano) Louis Suarez-Potts (louis) Marcus Lange (marcus) Oliver-Rainer Wittmann (orw) Pedro Giffuni (pfg) Peter Junge (pj) Raphael Bircher (rbircher) Regina Henschel (regina) RGB.ES (rgb-es) Roberto Galoppini (galoppini) Yang Shih-Ching (imacat) Yong Lin Ma (mayongl)
Re: [PMC] Proposed Initial PMC List and process
On 9/25/12, Raphael Bircher rbirc...@apache.org wrote: Hi at all I think, we should also ask this people, if they are willing to contribute to the PMC. I find this realy important. A short statement from everyone on the list would be nice. Maybe also with a Comment if s/he is willing to take over a PMC Chair. I think is important to document the process. (if this will be the elegibility process from now on). And also understand the time period to do the next elections which I am sure I remember read this in some of the other threads. Congratulations for the PMC and also Andrew for the effort he put on the process. Greetings Raphael Am 25.09.12 20:35, schrieb Andrew Rist: I would like to propose the following list as the initial PMC for Apache OpenOffice, with a procedure for consolidating this list into a final list. * The list is made up of the names that received more than 3 nominations. This was a spot in the data that had a step. This produces a list of 23 names which is 'no too big, and not too small'. * We will reach out on list to the people on the list to verify their interest and commitment to the PMC. This may result in the removal of several names. * I want to avoid too much discussion on individual names, as all of the people who received nominations (and some who did not) have given a lot to this project. If there is a particular person who is missing from the list, who has overwhelming merit, they should be added to the list through a consensus process. * Note that this will be the initial PMC, and that one of the functions of the PMC going forward will be to identify those of considerable merit and add them to the PMC, continually refreshing the PMC to represent the project. Proposed Process: * 48 hour window to build consensus on this process moving forward (Tues-Wed) * 48 hour (+48 hour weekend) discussion period (Thurs-Fri + Sat Sun) - stabilization of the finalized Initial PMC List * 72 hour vote on the resulting list as the initial PMC list (ending next Wed.) Proposed Working List: Andre Fischer (af) Andrea Pescetti (pescetti) Andrew Rist (arist) Ariel Constenla-Haile (arielch) Armin Le Grand (alg) Dave Fisher (wave) Donald Harbison (dpharbison) Drew Jensen (atjensen) Ian Lynch (ingotian) Jürgen Schmidt (jsc) Kay Schenk (kschenk) Kazunari Hirano (khirano) Louis Suarez-Potts (louis) Marcus Lange (marcus) Oliver-Rainer Wittmann (orw) Pedro Giffuni (pfg) Peter Junge (pj) Raphael Bircher (rbircher) Regina Henschel (regina) RGB.ES (rgb-es) Roberto Galoppini (galoppini) Yang Shih-Ching (imacat) Yong Lin Ma (mayongl) -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org
Re: [PMC] Proposed Initial PMC List and process
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Andrew Rist andrew.r...@oracle.comwrote: I would like to propose the following list as the initial PMC for Apache OpenOffice, with a procedure for consolidating this list into a final list. * The list is made up of the names that received more than 3 nominations. This was a spot in the data that had a step. This produces a list of 23 names which is 'no too big, and not too small'. * We will reach out on list to the people on the list to verify their interest and commitment to the PMC. This may result in the removal of several names. * I want to avoid too much discussion on individual names, as all of the people who received nominations (and some who did not) have given a lot to this project. If there is a particular person who is missing from the list, who has overwhelming merit, they should be added to the list through a consensus process. * Note that this will be the initial PMC, and that one of the functions of the PMC going forward will be to identify those of considerable merit and add them to the PMC, continually refreshing the PMC to represent the project. Proposed Process: * 48 hour window to build consensus on this process moving forward (Tues-Wed) * 48 hour (+48 hour weekend) discussion period (Thurs-Fri + Sat Sun) - stabilization of the finalized Initial PMC List * 72 hour vote on the resulting list as the initial PMC list (ending next Wed.) +1 this process sounds fine to me... Proposed Working List: Andre Fischer (af) Andrea Pescetti (pescetti) Andrew Rist (arist) Ariel Constenla-Haile (arielch) Armin Le Grand (alg) Dave Fisher (wave) Donald Harbison (dpharbison) Drew Jensen (atjensen) Ian Lynch (ingotian) Jürgen Schmidt (jsc) Kay Schenk (kschenk) Kazunari Hirano (khirano) Louis Suarez-Potts (louis) Marcus Lange (marcus) Oliver-Rainer Wittmann (orw) Pedro Giffuni (pfg) Peter Junge (pj) Raphael Bircher (rbircher) Regina Henschel (regina) RGB.ES (rgb-es) Roberto Galoppini (galoppini) Yang Shih-Ching (imacat) Yong Lin Ma (mayongl) -- MzK Just 'cause you got the monkey off your back doesn't mean the circus has left town. -- George Carlin
Re: [PMC] Proposed Initial PMC List and process
On 25 September 2012 22:34, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Andrew Rist andrew.r...@oracle.comwrote: I would like to propose the following list as the initial PMC for Apache OpenOffice, with a procedure for consolidating this list into a final list. * The list is made up of the names that received more than 3 nominations. This was a spot in the data that had a step. This produces a list of 23 names which is 'no too big, and not too small'. * We will reach out on list to the people on the list to verify their interest and commitment to the PMC. This may result in the removal of several names. * I want to avoid too much discussion on individual names, as all of the people who received nominations (and some who did not) have given a lot to this project. If there is a particular person who is missing from the list, who has overwhelming merit, they should be added to the list through a consensus process. * Note that this will be the initial PMC, and that one of the functions of the PMC going forward will be to identify those of considerable merit and add them to the PMC, continually refreshing the PMC to represent the project. Proposed Process: * 48 hour window to build consensus on this process moving forward (Tues-Wed) * 48 hour (+48 hour weekend) discussion period (Thurs-Fri + Sat Sun) - stabilization of the finalized Initial PMC List * 72 hour vote on the resulting list as the initial PMC list (ending next Wed.) +1 this process sounds fine to me... Proposed Working List: Andre Fischer (af) Andrea Pescetti (pescetti) Andrew Rist (arist) Ariel Constenla-Haile (arielch) Armin Le Grand (alg) Dave Fisher (wave) Donald Harbison (dpharbison) Drew Jensen (atjensen) Ian Lynch (ingotian) Jürgen Schmidt (jsc) Kay Schenk (kschenk) Kazunari Hirano (khirano) Louis Suarez-Potts (louis) Marcus Lange (marcus) Oliver-Rainer Wittmann (orw) Pedro Giffuni (pfg) Peter Junge (pj) Raphael Bircher (rbircher) Regina Henschel (regina) RGB.ES (rgb-es) Roberto Galoppini (galoppini) Yang Shih-Ching (imacat) Yong Lin Ma (mayongl) -- MzK Just 'cause you got the monkey off your back doesn't mean the circus has left town. -- George Carlin Great job Andrew +1 -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications (The Schools ITQ) www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales.
Re: [PMC] Proposed Initial PMC List and process
Am 09/25/2012 08:35 PM, schrieb Andrew Rist: I would like to propose the following list as the initial PMC for Apache OpenOffice, with a procedure for consolidating this list into a final list. [...] Thanks a lot for your effort to process the listed names. Looks like the diversity is given and a big step forward in direction of graduation. Marcus
Re: [PMC] Proposed Initial PMC List and process
Andrew, Thanks a lot. This is a big progress. But to me, the 3 is a magic number. Did we reach consesus with it? I would suggest we develop a plan to discuss all the member who have been nominated but not in current lis. This can be done before or after initial PMC list be finalized. On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Andrew Rist andrew.r...@oracle.com wrote: I would like to propose the following list as the initial PMC for Apache OpenOffice, with a procedure for consolidating this list into a final list. * The list is made up of the names that received more than 3 nominations. This was a spot in the data that had a step. This produces a list of 23 names which is 'no too big, and not too small'. * We will reach out on list to the people on the list to verify their interest and commitment to the PMC. This may result in the removal of several names. * I want to avoid too much discussion on individual names, as all of the people who received nominations (and some who did not) have given a lot to this project. If there is a particular person who is missing from the list, who has overwhelming merit, they should be added to the list through a consensus process. * Note that this will be the initial PMC, and that one of the functions of the PMC going forward will be to identify those of considerable merit and add them to the PMC, continually refreshing the PMC to represent the project. Proposed Process: * 48 hour window to build consensus on this process moving forward (Tues-Wed) * 48 hour (+48 hour weekend) discussion period (Thurs-Fri + Sat Sun) - stabilization of the finalized Initial PMC List * 72 hour vote on the resulting list as the initial PMC list (ending next Wed.) Proposed Working List: Andre Fischer (af) Andrea Pescetti (pescetti) Andrew Rist (arist) Ariel Constenla-Haile (arielch) Armin Le Grand (alg) Dave Fisher (wave) Donald Harbison (dpharbison) Drew Jensen (atjensen) Ian Lynch (ingotian) Jürgen Schmidt (jsc) Kay Schenk (kschenk) Kazunari Hirano (khirano) Louis Suarez-Potts (louis) Marcus Lange (marcus) Oliver-Rainer Wittmann (orw) Pedro Giffuni (pfg) Peter Junge (pj) Raphael Bircher (rbircher) Regina Henschel (regina) RGB.ES (rgb-es) Roberto Galoppini (galoppini) Yang Shih-Ching (imacat) Yong Lin Ma (mayongl) -- Regards Yong Lin Ma
Re: [DISCUSS][PMC] Proposed Initial PMC List and process
On 9/26/2012 3:20 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: My recommendation: 48-hour steps are too short. Take at least 72 minimums, state fixed UTC earliest-end date-times (so no one has to figure out when from now is), and maybe skip over weekend days. There's no rush. +1 - Dennis -Original Message- From: Andrew Rist [mailto:andrew.r...@oracle.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 11:36 To: ooo-dev Subject: [PMC] Proposed Initial PMC List and process [ ... ] Proposed Process: * 48 hour window to build consensus on this process moving forward (Tues-Wed) * 48 hour (+48 hour weekend) discussion period (Thurs-Fri + Sat Sun) - stabilization of the finalized Initial PMC List * 72 hour vote on the resulting list as the initial PMC list (ending next Wed.) [ ... ]
Re: [PMC] Proposed Initial PMC List and process
Hi Andrew, thanks a lot for the proposal. Great work! What I would like to do is also including those who got 2 nominations, because I find some names there that certainly contribute a lot but are just not as visible as others. As Dennis had proposed, I would also prefer to move on in 72 hour steps. For everything else a big +1! Thanks again, Peter On 9/26/2012 2:35 AM, Andrew Rist wrote: I would like to propose the following list as the initial PMC for Apache OpenOffice, with a procedure for consolidating this list into a final list. * The list is made up of the names that received more than 3 nominations. This was a spot in the data that had a step. This produces a list of 23 names which is 'no too big, and not too small'. * We will reach out on list to the people on the list to verify their interest and commitment to the PMC. This may result in the removal of several names. * I want to avoid too much discussion on individual names, as all of the people who received nominations (and some who did not) have given a lot to this project. If there is a particular person who is missing from the list, who has overwhelming merit, they should be added to the list through a consensus process. * Note that this will be the initial PMC, and that one of the functions of the PMC going forward will be to identify those of considerable merit and add them to the PMC, continually refreshing the PMC to represent the project. Proposed Process: * 48 hour window to build consensus on this process moving forward (Tues-Wed) * 48 hour (+48 hour weekend) discussion period (Thurs-Fri + Sat Sun) - stabilization of the finalized Initial PMC List * 72 hour vote on the resulting list as the initial PMC list (ending next Wed.) Proposed Working List: Andre Fischer (af) Andrea Pescetti (pescetti) Andrew Rist (arist) Ariel Constenla-Haile (arielch) Armin Le Grand (alg) Dave Fisher (wave) Donald Harbison (dpharbison) Drew Jensen (atjensen) Ian Lynch (ingotian) Jürgen Schmidt (jsc) Kay Schenk (kschenk) Kazunari Hirano (khirano) Louis Suarez-Potts (louis) Marcus Lange (marcus) Oliver-Rainer Wittmann (orw) Pedro Giffuni (pfg) Peter Junge (pj) Raphael Bircher (rbircher) Regina Henschel (regina) RGB.ES (rgb-es) Roberto Galoppini (galoppini) Yang Shih-Ching (imacat) Yong Lin Ma (mayongl)
