Re: QUASTE working?

2011-09-08 Thread Martin Hollmichel

Am 08.09.2011 01:09, schrieb Raphael Bircher:

Hi Dave

This is not a buildbot or samething like that. This is the VCL 
Testtool. It's a Tool witch is designed to run Testcase fully 
automaticly. It's similar to a User interact with OOo. So it's a Gui 
function test.
also login to EIS seems stopped working, seems almost all services 
hosted by Oracle in Hamburg are now gone or offline.


Martin


Greetings Raphael

Am 08.09.11 01:00, schrieb Dave Fisher:

Hi Guys,

Apache has various build services:

http://ci.apache.org/

Regards,
Dave

On Sep 7, 2011, at 3:52 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote:


Hi Alexandro

Am 08.09.11 00:32, schrieb Alexandro Colorado:

I can't access QUASTe, I hope this is not the lost box that was in the
planet.
Regards.

I'm actualy not sure if we realy want to use Quaste. Quaste was a 
special tool for our automated tests. But they never worked well 
outside SUN. Automated Tests are a nice Idea, but there Results has 
to be reliably. And If you know how many menpower SUN and Oracle 
investegate to maintain this tests... I'm not sure if we will do the 
same.


Greetings Raphael

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Re: QUASTE working?

2011-09-08 Thread Mathias Bauer
Am 08.09.2011 00:52, schrieb Raphael Bircher:

 Hi Alexandro
 
 Am 08.09.11 00:32, schrieb Alexandro Colorado:
 I can't access QUASTe, I hope this is not the lost box that was in the
 planet.
 Regards.

 I'm actualy not sure if we realy want to use Quaste. Quaste was a 
 special tool for our automated tests. But they never worked well outside 
 SUN. Automated Tests are a nice Idea, but there Results has to be 
 reliably. And If you know how many menpower SUN and Oracle investegate 
 to maintain this tests... I'm not sure if we will do the same.

It's wrong that the test never worked well outside SUN. I used these
tests on my private machines quite often and had no problems, at least
not on Windows and only rarely on Linux (the testtool doesn't want to
run on 64Bit).

These automatic tests have some value, but not in the way they were
used. But with or without the tests, QUASTE was and is dispensable. It
never did anything that you couldn't do much easier, faster and cheaper
in a working community with accountable members.

Regards,
Mathias



Re: QUASTE working?

2011-09-07 Thread Raphael Bircher

Hi Alexandro

Am 08.09.11 00:32, schrieb Alexandro Colorado:

I can't access QUASTe, I hope this is not the lost box that was in the
planet.
Regards.

I'm actualy not sure if we realy want to use Quaste. Quaste was a 
special tool for our automated tests. But they never worked well outside 
SUN. Automated Tests are a nice Idea, but there Results has to be 
reliably. And If you know how many menpower SUN and Oracle investegate 
to maintain this tests... I'm not sure if we will do the same.


Greetings Raphael

--
My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/


Re: QUASTE working?

2011-09-07 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Guys,

Apache has various build services:

http://ci.apache.org/

Regards,
Dave

On Sep 7, 2011, at 3:52 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote:

 Hi Alexandro
 
 Am 08.09.11 00:32, schrieb Alexandro Colorado:
 I can't access QUASTe, I hope this is not the lost box that was in the
 planet.
 Regards.
 
 I'm actualy not sure if we realy want to use Quaste. Quaste was a special 
 tool for our automated tests. But they never worked well outside SUN. 
 Automated Tests are a nice Idea, but there Results has to be reliably. And If 
 you know how many menpower SUN and Oracle investegate to maintain this 
 tests... I'm not sure if we will do the same.
 
 Greetings Raphael
 
 -- 
 My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/



Re: QUASTE working?

2011-09-07 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Raphael Bircher wrote:

I'm actualy not sure if we realy want to use Quaste. Quaste was a
special tool for our automated tests.


Yes, but recently it had included TCM, the very important tool to track 
the (manual) community testing:

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/TCM_Integration_to_QUASTe

TCM, within QUASTe or not, would definitely be an important asset to get 
from Oracle (actually what I'd be most interested in are the testcases 
themselves and their translations; the testing platform can be adapted 
or replaced if needed).


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: QUASTE working?

2011-09-07 Thread Raphael Bircher

Hi Dave

This is not a buildbot or samething like that. This is the VCL Testtool. 
It's a Tool witch is designed to run Testcase fully automaticly. It's 
similar to a User interact with OOo. So it's a Gui function test.


Greetings Raphael

Am 08.09.11 01:00, schrieb Dave Fisher:

Hi Guys,

Apache has various build services:

http://ci.apache.org/

Regards,
Dave

On Sep 7, 2011, at 3:52 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote:


Hi Alexandro

Am 08.09.11 00:32, schrieb Alexandro Colorado:

I can't access QUASTe, I hope this is not the lost box that was in the
planet.
Regards.


I'm actualy not sure if we realy want to use Quaste. Quaste was a special tool 
for our automated tests. But they never worked well outside SUN. Automated 
Tests are a nice Idea, but there Results has to be reliably. And If you know 
how many menpower SUN and Oracle investegate to maintain this tests... I'm not 
sure if we will do the same.

Greetings Raphael

--
My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/





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Re: QUASTE working?

2011-09-07 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch wrote:

 Am 08.09.11 01:08, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

  Raphael Bircher wrote:

 I'm actualy not sure if we realy want to use Quaste. Quaste was a
 special tool for our automated tests.


 Yes, but recently it had included TCM, the very important tool to track
 the (manual) community testing:
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/TCM_Integration_to_QUASTe

 TCM, within QUASTe or not, would definitely be an important asset to get
 from Oracle (actually what I'd be most interested in are the testcases
 themselves and their translations; the testing platform can be adapted or
 replaced if needed).

 TCM is not OpenSource, and I don't think that we can take over. We have to
 replace it with a other system.


TCM means test case management which are used on any testing tool. The tool
that was built in sun was handmade IMO to do the TCM.  Mozilla used LITMUS
which is also used to TDF.

TCM was automatically and manually, most of the testing from the NLC
happened in the TCM and the release tool called QATest which was code by a
programmer from the Swedish community -- Per Eriksson which IS FLOSS
compliant.




 Greetings Raphael

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 My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/




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Re: QUASTE working?

2011-09-07 Thread Dave Fisher

On Sep 7, 2011, at 4:09 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote:

 Hi Dave
 
 This is not a buildbot or samething like that. This is the VCL Testtool. It's 
 a Tool witch is designed to run Testcase fully automaticly. It's similar to a 
 User interact with OOo. So it's a Gui function test.

Jenkins (forked from Hudson) is such a tool, these are the various continuous 
integration tools that Apache Infrastructure currently offers. If AOOo wants 
QUASTE and TCM on Apache Infrastructure then it may be hosted with these 
processes.

Anyway, do what is necessary. My pointers are for information and not an 
endorsement.

Regards,
Dave

 
 Greetings Raphael
 
 Am 08.09.11 01:00, schrieb Dave Fisher:
 Hi Guys,
 
 Apache has various build services:
 
 http://ci.apache.org/
 
 Regards,
 Dave
 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 3:52 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote:
 
 Hi Alexandro
 
 Am 08.09.11 00:32, schrieb Alexandro Colorado:
 I can't access QUASTe, I hope this is not the lost box that was in the
 planet.
 Regards.
 
 I'm actualy not sure if we realy want to use Quaste. Quaste was a special 
 tool for our automated tests. But they never worked well outside SUN. 
 Automated Tests are a nice Idea, but there Results has to be reliably. And 
 If you know how many menpower SUN and Oracle investegate to maintain this 
 tests... I'm not sure if we will do the same.
 
 Greetings Raphael
 
 -- 
 My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/
 
 
 
 -- 
 My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/



Re: QUASTE working?

2011-09-07 Thread Alexandro Colorado
My question is if QUASTE is on a working box because I cant access it at the
time. I wonder if it's just temporary down and not permanently down.

Thanks for missconstructing my email.

On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:

 Hi Guys,

 Apache has various build services:

 http://ci.apache.org/

 Regards,
 Dave

 On Sep 7, 2011, at 3:52 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote:

  Hi Alexandro
 
  Am 08.09.11 00:32, schrieb Alexandro Colorado:
  I can't access QUASTe, I hope this is not the lost box that was in the
  planet.
  Regards.
 
  I'm actualy not sure if we realy want to use Quaste. Quaste was a special
 tool for our automated tests. But they never worked well outside SUN.
 Automated Tests are a nice Idea, but there Results has to be reliably. And
 If you know how many menpower SUN and Oracle investegate to maintain this
 tests... I'm not sure if we will do the same.
 
  Greetings Raphael
 
  --
  My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/




-- 
*Alexandro Colorado*
*OpenOffice.org* Español
http://es.openoffice.org
fingerprint: E62B CF77 1BEA 0749 C0B8 50B9 3DE6 A84A 68D0 72E6


Re: QUASTE working?

2011-09-07 Thread Dave Fisher

On Sep 7, 2011, at 4:50 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:

 My question is if QUASTE is on a working box because I cant access it at the
 time. I wonder if it's just temporary down and not permanently down.

Unlike earlier when I had trouble.

ping quaste.services.openoffice.org
PING quaste.services.openoffice.org (192.18.197.119): 56 data bytes
Request timeout for icmp_seq 0
Request timeout for icmp_seq 1
Request timeout for icmp_seq 2

ping wiki.services.openoffice.org
PING doc.services.openoffice.org (192.18.196.109): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 192.18.196.109: icmp_seq=0 ttl=237 time=191.824 ms
64 bytes from 192.18.196.109: icmp_seq=1 ttl=237 time=202.017 ms
64 bytes from 192.18.196.109: icmp_seq=2 ttl=237 time=204.066 ms
64 bytes from 192.18.196.109: icmp_seq=3 ttl=237 time=189.891 ms
64 bytes from 192.18.196.109: icmp_seq=4 ttl=237 time=189.763 ms

The box must be down. I've included Andrew Rist...

 
 Thanks for missconstructing my email.

Sorry to confuse things - I'll try to maintain thread discipline. You perfectly 
correct to point this out.

Regards,
Dave

 
 On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Hi Guys,
 
 Apache has various build services:
 
 http://ci.apache.org/
 
 Regards,
 Dave
 
 On Sep 7, 2011, at 3:52 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote:
 
 Hi Alexandro
 
 Am 08.09.11 00:32, schrieb Alexandro Colorado:
 I can't access QUASTe, I hope this is not the lost box that was in the
 planet.
 Regards.
 
 I'm actualy not sure if we realy want to use Quaste. Quaste was a special
 tool for our automated tests. But they never worked well outside SUN.
 Automated Tests are a nice Idea, but there Results has to be reliably. And
 If you know how many menpower SUN and Oracle investegate to maintain this
 tests... I'm not sure if we will do the same.
 
 Greetings Raphael
 
 --
 My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 *Alexandro Colorado*
 *OpenOffice.org* Español
 http://es.openoffice.org
 fingerprint: E62B CF77 1BEA 0749 C0B8 50B9 3DE6 A84A 68D0 72E6