Re: [Oorexx-devel] Debug downloads

2014-02-20 Thread Mark Miesfeld
Okay, I've put debug builds for Windows ooRexx 4.2.0 on SourceForge.  They
are in a subdirectory in the Files section for ooRexx 4.2.0.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/oorexx/files/oorexx/4.2.0%20%28release%20candidate%202%29/debug.version/

to be explicit.

I'm curious Mike, do you have a VC++ debugger installed, and if so is it
the Express version?

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On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Mike Cowlishaw m...@speleotrove.com wrote:



  I'm not sure what the requirements for the *ix platforms would be, and
 I'm pretty sure we really don't want to do this for all of the flavors
 anyway, but I'm thinking it might be a useful thing to have a debug version
 of the Windows 32- and 64- bit versions available for download.  This might
 allow users that have access to the Visual Studio (and know how to use the
 debugger) to perform some level of crash diagnosis without needing to
 provide a working example they can send us.  Sometimes problems like this
 can be diagnosed with nothing more than the stack traceback.

 Sounds good to me.  I am still (about once every 5 weeks) getting a crash
 on my webserver which seems to point to rexx.dll but no way of getting
 handle on it (and just as likely it's a problem in my code or the TCP/IP
 stack).  So running with a debug version that could provide more details on
 a crash could be a win.

 Mike



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Re: [Oorexx-devel] Debug downloads

2014-02-20 Thread Mike Cowlishaw

 

Okay, I've put debug builds for Windows ooRexx 4.2.0 on SourceForge.  They are
in a subdirectory in the Files section for ooRexx 4.2.0.  

https://sourceforge.net/projects/oorexx/files/oorexx/4.2.0%20%28release%20candid
ate%202%29/debug.version/


to be explicit.

 
Thanks will install (probably tomorrow).

I'm curious Mike, do you have a VC++ debugger installed, and if so is it the
Express version?
 
The debugger I start on boot is started via the command:
 
  'windbg -IS'
 
which I think is from VC [++?] and yes I think the Express version, but quite an
old one.
 
Mike

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Re: [Oorexx-devel] Debug downloads

2014-02-20 Thread Mark Miesfeld
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:32 AM, Mike Cowlishaw m...@speleotrove.com wrote:

  I'm curious Mike, do you have a VC++ debugger installed, and if so is it
 the Express version?

 The debugger I start on boot is started via the command:

   'windbg -IS'

 which I think is from VC [++?] and yes I think the Express version, but
 quite an old one.


windbg used to be distributed in the device driver kit and is different
than the VC++ debugger.  It is supposed to be more powerful, but I don't
know if it has just in time debugging, if it breaks in automatically when a
crash happens on the system.

Looking up some details on windbg, reminded me that the debug build may not
be helpful without the .pdb files that are produced during the compile?

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Re: [Oorexx-devel] Debug downloads

2014-02-20 Thread Mike Cowlishaw
I'm curious Mike, do you have a VC++ debugger installed, and if so is it the
Express version?

 
The debugger I start on boot is started via the command:
 
  'windbg -IS'
 
which I think is from VC [++?] and yes I think the Express version, but quite an
old one.



windbg used to be distributed in the device driver kit and is different than the
VC++ debugger.  It is supposed to be more powerful, but I don't know if it has
just in time debugging, if it breaks in automatically when a crash happens on
the system. 
 
Hmm, yes, on a bit of googling, looks like it's part of the Windows SDK.
Still, anyone writing apps for Windows would install that.

Looking up some details on windbg, reminded me that the debug build may not be
helpful without the .pdb files that are produced during the compile? 
 
No idea.  I guess I'll install (and lastest SDK/windbg) and wait for something
to happen.   Of course, nothing will, now  :-)
 
Mike 


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Re: [Oorexx-devel] Debug downloads

2014-02-20 Thread Chip Davis
How does this utility NOT go by the name Windbag?  ;-)

That's nearly as bad as the z/VM TCP/IP installation wizard that was 
pushed back a release because the developers named it IPWIZ.

-Chip-

On 2/20/2014 12:25 PM Mike Cowlishaw said:
 __
 I'm curious Mike, do you have a VC++ debugger installed, and if so is
 it the Express version?

 The debugger I start on boot is started via the command:
'windbg -IS'
 which I think is from VC [++?] and yes I think the Express
 version, but quite an old one.


 windbg used to be distributed in the device driver kit and is
 different than the VC++ debugger.  It is supposed to be more
 powerful, but I don't know if it has just in time debugging, if it
 breaks in automatically when a crash happens on the system.
 Hmm, yes, on a bit of googling, looks like it's part of the
 Windows SDK.   Still, anyone writing apps for Windows would
 install that.
 Looking up some details on windbg, reminded me that the debug
 build may not be helpful without the .pdb files that are produced
 during the compile?
 No idea.  I guess I'll install (and lastest SDK/windbg) and wait
 for something to happen.   Of course, nothing will, now  :-)
 Mike

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Re: [Oorexx-devel] Debug downloads

2014-02-20 Thread Dan Carter
No doubt you could drag and drop the icon for the system onto the icon for
the file, thus expressing a relevant evaluation of the function.  

That could apply to many things at Parris Island.  

Welcome back, Lee!  Don't stay away so long next time.  

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From: Lee Peedin [mailto:l...@safedatausa.com] 
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Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Debug downloads

I once wrote an inventory/supply package for a group at Parris Island called
Peedin Inventory  Supply System (PISS).

Lee

On 2/20/2014 1:03 PM, Chip Davis wrote:
 How does this utility NOT go by the name Windbag?  ;-)

 That's nearly as bad as the z/VM TCP/IP installation wizard that was 
 pushed back a release because the developers named it IPWIZ.

 -Chip-

 On 2/20/2014 12:25 PM Mike Cowlishaw said:
 __
 I'm curious Mike, do you have a VC++ debugger installed, and if so is 
 it the Express version?

  The debugger I start on boot is started via the command:
 'windbg -IS'
  which I think is from VC [++?] and yes I think the Express
  version, but quite an old one.


  windbg used to be distributed in the device driver kit and is
  different than the VC++ debugger.  It is supposed to be more
  powerful, but I don't know if it has just in time debugging, if it
  breaks in automatically when a crash happens on the system.
  Hmm, yes, on a bit of googling, looks like it's part of the
  Windows SDK.   Still, anyone writing apps for Windows would
  install that.
  Looking up some details on windbg, reminded me that the debug
  build may not be helpful without the .pdb files that are produced
  during the compile?
  No idea.  I guess I'll install (and lastest SDK/windbg) and wait
  for something to happen.   Of course, nothing will, now  :-)
  Mike
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