Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx does nothing visible when installed.
May I suggest that when installation is finnished, bring up the ooRexx ref guide (hopefully pdf reader is installed) or the readMe pdf, for those that doesn't bother to look for what was installed. Maybe a new installation option instead 'tickbox - I want to know what to do after install' and if ticked, bring up the Ref guide after install -:/ /hex - Ursprungligt Meddelande - Från: Mark Miesfeld miesf...@gmail.com Till: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Kopia: Datum: onsdag, 11 december 2013 21:03 Ämne: Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooRexx does nothing visible when installed. On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Oliver Sims oliver.s...@simsassociates.co.uk wrote: The other day I was enthusing about the advantages of ooRexx to a chap who was well-versed in computer languages. I'm not at all trying to discourage you from coming up with a better intro, but this sort of reminds me of the saying: you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. The next time we spoke, he said, Well, I downloaded ooRexx and nothing happened. No icon on the desktop, no nothing. Well that's simply not true. It is correct that no desktop icon is created, but to say nothing happens is fallacious. The installer outputs a couple of hundred lines showing exactly what is happening. It creates a program group in the Start Menu for ooRexx with links to the documentation and menu items to execute a number of sample programs. Waste of time imho. I did try to convince him to look at Try Rexx, but he couldn't be bothered: Nah, he said, If it's any good it would have told me about when I installed it. Again, that's not true, the installer did tell him about it: Create folder: C:\Rexx\ooRexx Extract: rexxtry.rex... 100% Extract: ooRexxTry.rex... 100% Output folder: C:\Rexx\ooRexx\samples\oodialog\ooRexxTry Extract: ooRexxTry.rex... 100% Output folder: C:\Rexx\ooRexx\samples\oodialog\ooRexxTry\doc Extract: ooRexxTry.pdf... 100% Extract: ooRexxTry.pdf... 100% Create shortcut: C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Open Object Rexx\Documentation\ooRexxTry Reference.lnk This reaction has lead me to believe that, if we want to spread the ooRexx word, we need a better way of showing people its advantages. For example, put an icon on the desktop that fires up Try Rexx. (But why not Try ooRexx?) The installer could certainly put an icon on the desktop, but I fail to see why that is any better than the current entries in the Open Object Rexx Start Menu Group. Your friend would still need to bother himself to double click on it. But, again, I'm not arguing against adding a desktop icon. Btw, I tried Try Rexx (GUI) and typed dir as suggested in the command prompt, but when I ran it I got an error. Hmm, if it didn't work that would be a bug and you should open a bug and we'll fix it. However it works fine for me in 4.2.0. You have to type dir in the code window and then you have to click the Run button. The program itself includes help that explains this, so I think it is actually a pretty good Rexx program. If you install Excel, you can't expect to be able to use it without a little research. -- Mark Miesfeld -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel-- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
[Oorexx-devel] ::Constant
/* rexx */ Trace i Say .methods~HELLO Exit ::constant HELLO 'The computer says:' - Gives 3 *-* Say .methods~HELLO E .METHODS = a Directory M HELLO = a Method a Method a Method 5 *-* Exit I expected the say .methods~HELLO statement to return the value of the constant HELLO /hex-- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60135991iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] New ooRexx Windows Compile Error
In that lighting and David's case, can't rxapi kill it self when the build is finnished, that way David should be able to build both version on same VM without bother about rxapi, except for the Win32Rel directory stuff. If oorexx not installed, kill rxapi unconditionally. How to solve if oorexx is installed ? which rxapi (32 or 64) to kill and when/how, but as I recall if rxapi is not started it will be, maybe not as a service in these rare circumstances when someone building oorexx/oodialog, so kill them both (32/64). /hex - Ursprungligt Meddelande - Från: Rick McGuire object.r...@gmail.com Till: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Kopia: Datum: tisdag, 17 september 2013 18:56 Ämne: Re: [Oorexx-devel] New ooRexx Windows Compile Error Having ooRexx installed to build has not been a requirement in a LONG time. The use of xslt to generate the message files eliminated that need. Rick On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:53 PM, David Ashley w.david.ash...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks everyone for you responses. It looks like I will need to bring up 2 virtual machines, a 32 and a 64 bit machine. Currently I have been working with a 64 bit VM. One last question. Do I need to even install ooRexx to build ooRexx. A long time ago this was a requirement to build ooRexx. Has that requirement been eliminated? Thanks everyone, David Ashley -- LIMITED TIME SALE - Full Year of Microsoft Training For Just $49.99! 1,500+ hours of tutorials including VisualStudio 2012, Windows 8, SharePoint 2013, SQL 2012, MVC 4, more. BEST VALUE: New Multi-Library Power Pack includes Mobile, Cloud, Java, and UX Design. Lowest price ever! Ends 9/20/13. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=58041151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- LIMITED TIME SALE - Full Year of Microsoft Training For Just $49.99! 1,500+ hours of tutorials including VisualStudio 2012, Windows 8, SharePoint 2013, SQL 2012, MVC 4, more. BEST VALUE: New Multi-Library Power Pack includes Mobile, Cloud, Java, and UX Design. Lowest price ever! Ends 9/20/13. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=58041151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel-- LIMITED TIME SALE - Full Year of Microsoft Training For Just $49.99! 1,500+ hours of tutorials including VisualStudio 2012, Windows 8, SharePoint 2013, SQL 2012, MVC 4, more. BEST VALUE: New Multi-Library Power Pack includes Mobile, Cloud, Java, and UX Design. Lowest price ever! Ends 9/20/13. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=58041151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] New ooRexx Windows Compile Error
You probably have 2 instances of rxapi running, one 64bit and one 32 bit, you need to cancel one/both before the build This happens when, building both 64 and 32 bit oorexx on same machine. Stuck on building REXX.img. I get this when I build a oorexx 32 bits version first (on a 64 bit window 7) and then try to build the 64 bit version, and forget to kill the 32 bit rxapi that is started when building the 32 bit version, I also need to kill/disable the 64 bit rxapi before building the 32 bit version. Probably the other way around also gives this problem. And also don't forget to rename/delete /trunk/Win32Rel directory, between buildning of the oorexx bitness versions (32/64) /hex - Ursprungligt Meddelande: Från: David Ashley w.david.ash...@gmail.com Till: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Kopia: Datum: tisdag, 17 september 2013 16:57 Ämne: Re: [Oorexx-devel] New ooRexx Windows Compile Error New problem. I decided to start fresh with a new copy of the source. So I did an svn export (I am having a problem with svn co at the moment) and then started a new build. The build hangs on creating REXX.IMG. I let it run for 10 minutes with no progress at all. rexximage.exe shows up in the task manager and the log has nothing useful. The last messages are a successful link of rexxc.exe and then an All done message. That's it. Any ideas? David Ashley -- LIMITED TIME SALE - Full Year of Microsoft Training For Just $49.99! 1,500+ hours of tutorials including VisualStudio 2012, Windows 8, SharePoint 2013, SQL 2012, MVC 4, more. BEST VALUE: New Multi-Library Power Pack includes Mobile, Cloud, Java, and UX Design. Lowest price ever! Ends 9/20/13. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=58041151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- LIMITED TIME SALE - Full Year of Microsoft Training For Just $49.99! 1,500+ hours of tutorials including VisualStudio 2012, Windows 8, SharePoint 2013, SQL 2012, MVC 4, more. BEST VALUE: New Multi-Library Power Pack includes Mobile, Cloud, Java, and UX Design. Lowest price ever! Ends 9/20/13. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=58041151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] New ooRexx Windows Compile Error
Mark Is it with, without any big changes, possible the let the build directory (Win32Rel) reflect the bitness of the latest oorexx build, like Win64Rel/Win32Rel, that would make it easier to rebuild the independant oodialog when needed. For now I keep two Win32Rel (x64 and x32) and rename them accordingly, when I need to rebuild independent oodialog, to avoid to rebuild oorexx at those occasions. Needs a change to independent ooDialog also, to pick the right Win32Rel. The rxapi stuff is no problem when building the independant ooDialog, it builds both bitness without problems if rxapi 64 bits is active. /hex - Ursprungligt Meddelande - Från: Mark Miesfeld miesf...@gmail.com Till: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Kopia: Datum: tisdag, 17 september 2013 18:22 Ämne: Re: [Oorexx-devel] New ooRexx Windows Compile Error On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 9:07 AM, David Ashley w.david.ash...@gmail.com wrote: ooRexx 4.1.3 is installed on the system. The system is 64 bit Win7 and I was trying to build a 32 bit version of ooRexx. Will that not work? You might need to uninstall ooRexx if you're going to cross-compile. Also, as hex mentioned, you will need to be sure to completely delete the build directory in between a 32-bit and a 64-bit build. Or, maybe have 2 VMs one for 32-bit Windows and ooRexx and one for 64-bit Windows and ooRexx. -- Mark Miesfeld -- LIMITED TIME SALE - Full Year of Microsoft Training For Just $49.99! 1,500+ hours of tutorials including VisualStudio 2012, Windows 8, SharePoint 2013, SQL 2012, MVC 4, more. BEST VALUE: New Multi-Library Power Pack includes Mobile, Cloud, Java, and UX Design. Lowest price ever! Ends 9/20/13. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=58041151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel-- LIMITED TIME SALE - Full Year of Microsoft Training For Just $49.99! 1,500+ hours of tutorials including VisualStudio 2012, Windows 8, SharePoint 2013, SQL 2012, MVC 4, more. BEST VALUE: New Multi-Library Power Pack includes Mobile, Cloud, Java, and UX Design. Lowest price ever! Ends 9/20/13. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=58041151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
[Oorexx-devel] Manuals on build machine
I wonder what have happend on build machine regarding the docs for oodialog and oosqlite. oodialog.pdf has not been built since revision 9180 oosqlite.pdf has not been built since revision 9929 As of this mail, latest revison is 9247 at build machine /hex-- Try New Relic Now We'll Send You this Cool Shirt New Relic is the only SaaS-based application performance monitoring service that delivers powerful full stack analytics. Optimize and monitor your browser, app, servers with just a few lines of code. Try New Relic and get this awesome Nerd Life shirt! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic_d2d_may___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] oosqlite 3.7.17
Mark The attach file got thru and compile works. Thanks /hex - Ursprungligt Meddelande - Från: Mark Miesfeld miesf...@gmail.com Till:hexi...@users.sourceforge.net Kopia: Datum: onsdag, 22 maj 2013 19:22 Ämne: Re: [Oorexx-devel] oosqlite 3.7.17 hex, Attached is the file, although I'm not sure that SourceForge will let attachments through. On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:08 AM, hakan hexi...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: Mark As I saw that oosqlite was updated to sqlite 3.7.17 and as I am curious of new functionallity in that release I tried to compile it (on windows) , but was stuck in that spellfix.c was missing from source (../src/sqlite/extensions) /hex -- Try New Relic Now We'll Send You this Cool Shirt New Relic is the only SaaS-based application performance monitoring service that delivers powerful full stack analytics. Optimize and monitor your browser, app, servers with just a few lines of code. Try New Relic and get this awesome Nerd Life shirt! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic_d2d_may ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel-- Try New Relic Now We'll Send You this Cool Shirt New Relic is the only SaaS-based application performance monitoring service that delivers powerful full stack analytics. Optimize and monitor your browser, app, servers with just a few lines of code. Try New Relic and get this awesome Nerd Life shirt! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic_d2d_may___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] Getting Started - Basic Outline
For me this looks like it's overlapping the contents of ooREXX Programming Guide too much, maybe concentrate on a oorexx Programming Guide II advanced, which concentrate on objects/classes, threading more ooStuff, that many, including myself, old rexx programmers have less experience with. /hex - Ursprungligt Meddelande: Från: David Ashley w.david.ash...@gmail.com Till: ooRexxDevel oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Kopia: Datum: tisdag, 18 september 2012 22:43 Ämne: [Oorexx-devel] Getting Started - Basic Outline All - Here is my initial stab at a basic outline for the Getting Started document. My hope is that a lot of these topics can be covered in one or two pages at the most, but I know there will be exceptions. This is just a first draft. Feel free to comment on it. It is all flexible at the moment. Installing ooRexx Available Platforms Downloading ooRexx Installing ooRexx on Windows Installing ooRexx on Linux RPM-based Distributions DEB-based distributions Running ooRexx programs/Scripts Concepts Historical Context Syntax Operators Keywords Directives Program Structure Data Types The Object Objects Are Simple But Powerful Classes and Instances Variables and Expressions Variables Assignment Statements Expressions Arithmetic Instructions Keyword Instructions Flow Control Environment Manipulation Input and Output Other Environment Commands Introduction to the Default Available Classes String Manipulation Input and Output Streams Arrays Stems Other Classes Creating Your Own Classes and Methods Defining a Class Defining the Methods Relationships Between Classes Variable Scope Procedures, Functions, Routines and Scope Routines Builtin Functions Defining Your Own Functions and Procedures Conditions and Traps Debugging Glossary Topics Deliberately Left out Early REPLY (threading) MIXIN classes Extended explanation of PARSE The CLASS Class David Ashley -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] Ad sorting arrays: request for discussion/thoughts ...
I reported this already (item #3151709, was opened at 2011-01-05 09:52), and I was also surprised. There is a note in REXXREF about sorting arrays and non-sparse arrays (page 285). I found out after reporting. I think it's not consistent with Do s over array say s end This will show all existing items in the array. Skippning removed items I prefer to think of, in this case, that removed items is nonexisting items and should not be included in a sort operation, which means array will shrink. but it has already done that more or less, array~items will only count indexes with values (like the do over clause), but array~sort statment will fail if item is removed from array, if not last item in array is removed. As for current status shouldn't array~items return a count including removed entries. Some inconsistency here I think /hex - Ursprungligt Meddelande - Från: Rony G. Flatscher rony.flatsc...@wu-wien.ac.at Till: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Kopia: Datum: fredag, 24 augusti 2012 12:02 Ämne: [Oorexx-devel] Ad sorting arrays: request for discussion/thoughts ... Yesterday I stumbled over a surprising behaviour of Array's sort, which led me to open a bug report https://sourceforge.net/p/oorexx/bugs/1107/. Obviously the sorting is working as designed, hence the reported behaviour was not accepted as a bug. Having slept a night over this and thinking about my utmost surprise that sort would raise an error condition if it hits an empty array element (one without an entry) in between, I try to summarize my thoughts about the current behaviour, requesting a change of the design and implementation to get rid of the surprising factor and to remove undeterminable fragility from the Array sort. First, the current design and implementation: The single dimiensioned array that gets sorted must not have empty entries in between. If the sort tries to refer to an empty slot it raises Error 98.975:Missingarrayelementatposition xyz and the program is ended, if the condition does not get trapped. Thoughts about this: Having worked for many years sorting arrays, I was *totally surprised* about this unexpected (because never experienced) behaviour! The surprise factor for me was at the maximum. There is no documentation going with sorting arrays that would communicate that the arrays to be sorted must have no empty elements in between that I am aware of. Therefore one cannot expect this behaviour at all. If one uses single dimensioned arrays that get changed in routines and methods (written by others) such that elements get removed in between, then sorting such an array all of a sudden (and totally unforseeable) raises the above mentioned error condition, which makes sort quite fragile for programmers IMHO. To overcome this situation, one must advice every ooRexx programmer to do *always* a (potentially time-consuming) makearray before sorting an array just to make sure that the aforementioned error condition does not get raised. Finally, I would have expected that an array with empty elements should be sortable without a problem, therefore my utmost surprise! :) My expectations would be simply as follows: if a single dimensioned array contained empty elements, then sorting would work and all the empty elements are sorted to the end of the array, no matter what the comparison method returns. This way, after a sort, all empty elements are always at the end of the array. (The items and size messages would remain the same.) The questions I would have, before contemplating about filing a RFE: am I the only one who is surprised about a failing sort on a single dimensioned array if in between there are empty elements? Independent of this, would it be acceptable to change the current design and implementation of the sort such that empty elements are tolerated and put to the end of the array (what would be arguments, thoughts that speak against such a change)? ---rony -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel-- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats.
Re: [Oorexx-devel] Testing new SysFileTree?
Michel try the Debian build, from buildmachine, usally it works for me on Ubuntu
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Ämne: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Testing new SysFileTree?
Hi Michael,
I can build a package on a lower version of Ubuntu, but probably not
until the weekend. I'll e-mail you directly on how to get the
package. Jog my memory here, if you don't see an e-mail from me by
Sunday.
That's an odd error by the way, I would have expected a crash not an
incorrect call to routine.
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On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Michael Lueck
mlu...@lueckdatasystems.com wrote:
Michael Lueck wrote:
I will test with 4.1.1 to make sure SysFileTree crashes, and then try with
the latest build... and report findings.
mdlueck@ldslnx01:~$ rexx -v
Open Object Rexx Version 4.1.0
Build date: Dec 3 2010
Addressing Mode: 32
Copyright (c) IBM Corporation 1995, 2004.
Copyright (c) RexxLA 2005-2010.
All Rights Reserved.
This program and the accompanying materials are made available under
the terms of the Common Public License v1.0 which accompanies this
distribution or at
http://www.oorexx.org/license.html
mdlueck@ldslnx01:~$ cd /
mdlueck@ldslnx01:/$ rexx /srv/shares/data/Dev/Rexx/test/SysFileTree.rex
5 *-* rc = SysFileTree('*', Chk., 'BLS')
REX0040E: Error 40: Incorrect call to routine
REX0372E: Error 40.1: External routine SYSFILETREE failed
mdlueck@ldslnx01:/$
Thus reproducible.
Unfortunately the 12.04 package does not play nice on 10.04 LTS.
mdlueck@ldslnx01:/$ sudo dpkg -i
/srv/shares/data/Download/OpenSource/ooRexx/oorexx_4.2.0-8244-ubuntu1204_i386.deb
Selecting previously deselected package oorexx.
(Reading database ... 35848 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking oorexx (from .../oorexx_4.2.0-8244-ubuntu1204_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of oorexx:
oorexx depends on libc6 (= 2.15); however:
Version of libc6 on system is 2.11.1-0ubuntu7.10.
oorexx depends on libstdc++6 (= 4.6); however:
Version of libstdc++6 on system is 4.4.3-4ubuntu5.1.
dpkg: error processing oorexx (--install):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
oorexx
Could you build some on a lower version?
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] Allura - hmm
Now, it seems to show create ticket, but not for all items, for example support request is missing create ticket, maybe more. Besides that, is it possible to globally define the sort order on ticket number, to get the most recent at top, as for now one must click on # (twice) to most recent on top. /hex - Ursprungligt Meddelande - Från: Rick McGuire object.r...@gmail.com Till: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Kopia: Datum: onsdag, 15 augusti 2012 22:05 Ämne: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Allura - hmm Mark, Try again. I tweaked the permissions a bit. I suspect David and I see everything because we're Admins. I found the default settings to be a little strange...for example, nobody had Create permission. Rick On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Mark Miesfeld miesf...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 12:39 PM, David Ashley w.david.ash...@gmail.com wrote: Do you not see a vertical set of menus on the left. They are there for me and have most of what you want. I do see that menu. But it only has View stats and Group with a list of the Groups we had used in the old Tracker. There is no open new, or edit, etc.. -- Mark Miesfeld -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel-- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] Allura - hmm
For me it shows the oldest item (ticket) as first item, for example in the bug list, by clicking on # (twice ?) it shows most recent on top, maybe it has to be done only once ( saving some session cookie or what ever) I must admitt I now get them with most recent on top. We can leave it for the moment. /hex - Ursprungligt Meddelande - Från: Rick McGuire object.r...@gmail.com Till:hexi...@users.sourceforge.net , Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Kopia: Datum: onsdag, 15 augusti 2012 22:33 Ämne: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Allura - hmm What about the sort order? On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 4:29 PM, hakan hexi...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: Ok, I see How about the sort order ? /hex - Ursprungligt Meddelande - Från: Rick McGuire object.r...@gmail.com Till:hexi...@users.sourceforge.net , Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Kopia: Datum: onsdag, 15 augusti 2012 22:25 Ämne: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Allura - hmm I intentionally left that off of Support Request. That's not really a category we really use, and for the most part, people mistakenly open bugs under that. Rick On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 4:22 PM, hakan hexi...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: Now, it seems to show create ticket, but not for all items, for example support request is missing create ticket, maybe more. Besides that, is it possible to globally define the sort order on ticket number, to get the most recent at top, as for now one must click on # (twice) to most recent on top. /hex - Ursprungligt Meddelande - Från: Rick McGuire object.r...@gmail.com Till: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Kopia: Datum: onsdag, 15 augusti 2012 22:05 Ämne: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Allura - hmm Mark, Try again. I tweaked the permissions a bit. I suspect David and I see everything because we're Admins. I found the default settings to be a little strange...for example, nobody had Create permission. Rick On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Mark Miesfeld miesf...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 12:39 PM, David Ashley w.david.ash...@gmail.com wrote: Do you not see a vertical set of menus on the left. They are there for me and have most of what you want. I do see that menu. But it only has View stats and Group with a list of the Groups we had used in the old Tracker. There is no open new, or edit, etc.. -- Mark Miesfeld -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel-- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint
Re: [Oorexx-devel] Possible Documentation Change
Looked at the latest created rxsock pdf and see that, every odd page number, text is more indented then the text on even page numbers ! Any thoughts about the font used ? /hex - Ursprungligt Meddelande: Från: David Ashley w.david.ash...@gmail.com Till: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Kopia: Datum: torsdag, 09 augusti 2012 17:55 Ämne: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Possible Documentation Change All - I have added all the missing sections to the sample rxsock document. In addition I tweaked a bunch of things to make the documents more polished. There are still some page break problems but as I stated in a previous email we will have to live with those. The documents are available at http://build.oorexx.org/builds/release-candidates/. Publican is a really nice system once you get past the initial learning curve. And now that I know how to deal with it it will be easy help others get started. The other nice thing about the system is that it runs on both Windows and Linux without any source code changes. The whole point with this exercise is that I am very concerned about the future of the DocBook/DSSL system we use now. DSSL is not being maintained and everyone is moving in other directions. Publican offers the advantages of it being a DocBook/CSS system, it is maintained by Red Hat, it is their strategic direction, and it is portable across multiple platforms including Windows. And last, it does not take much effort to fix up our documents to conform to Publican. So please let me know if this is an acceptable direction for us to take. David Ashley ooRexx Team -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] New SYSFILETREE order of returned values
Fair enough. If one expect that the returned values are in alpha order, that text will explain why the returned values from an OS, maybe, will be returned in a different order. /hex - Ursprungligt Meddelande: Från: Mark Miesfeld miesf...@gmail.com Till: hexi...@users.sourceforge.net, Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Kopia: Datum: torsdag, 09 augusti 2012 20:54 Ämne: Re: [Oorexx-devel] New SYSFILETREE order of returned values On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 1:01 PM, hakan hexi...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: Brandon is correct. tried dir \\mypath and got the same arbitrary order. I think this should be mentioned in the manual. /hex There were a couple of clarifications to the SysFileTree doc that I had intended to make, so I added this also while I was doing it: SysFileTree uses operating system APIs to find the files. The found files are placed in the returned stem in the order they are found by the operating system. This documentation does not attempt to define what that order might be. Probably not exactly what you wanted, but I don't feel that the ooRexx documentation should try to define every single nuance of every operating system ooRexx runs on. I don't know what happens on AIX, I don't know what happens on OS X. I don't know what will happen on Windows 8, etc., etc.. ;-) -- Mark Miesfeld -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] Possible Documentation Change
Personally I don't like the font used in the text parts and the lack of page-breaks. Also the class object pictures is to low-res compared to the running text. Maybe I have read to many IBM manuals, that has an easy reading font and mostly, page-breaks at a suitable place. /hex - Ursprungligt Meddelande: Från: David Ashley w.david.ash...@gmail.com Till: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Kopia: Datum: tisdag, 07 augusti 2012 23:02 Ämne: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Possible Documentation Change I have refreshed the documents on the Build Server. I created a new brand so now the doc references the correct license. I think this is pretty close to as finished as I can make it. As to the formatting issues, the Publican system uses CSS formatting. As you may or may not know CSS is very weak in formatting multi-page output for PDF documents. This because it primary use is for HTML pages which have no multi-page concerns. The result can be some odd page breaks in your PDF outout. There is not much you can do about this and anything you do will probably make the situation worse either now or in the future. But for the most part we can live with these issues as long as the content does not go missing completely. David Ashley On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 20:41 +0100, Jeremy Nicoll - ml sourceforge wrote: David Ashley w.david.ash...@gmail.com wrote: The document looks outstanding! It's certainly polished, in places. I just looked at some pages at random though and found one problem, where the shaded box around a syntax diagram straddles a page break - for 5.18 SockRecv at the foot of page 24. Similarly (though not as bad) see 7.2.16 state at the foot of p55. And at the foot of p36 there's a where that's not connected with the text it introduces. I've never used XML or DocBook, but did long ago use IBM's DCF/Script package, writing macros for quite complex 3-pass processing of documents (where the macros did different things on different passes). Script had control words (dot commands) for bracketing sections of text that should not be broken up, and others eg to force a page break if there was insufficient space at the foot of one page to start a new section of a document. (These things only got used if one wrote macros that issued them with appropriate arguments in appropriate places.) The output from this system looks a lot like it's created nice looking text but just poured it onto a series of pages without taking page-breaks into account. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
[Oorexx-devel] New SYSFILETREE order of returned values
This is on win7 64bit and oorexx 4.2.0 8149. Using the new SYSFILETREE , maybe it also applies to the old SYSFILETREE!, I have a question. In what order is the result returned in the steam ? Reading a windows path, it seems the result is returned in alphabetic order, but reading a networkpath (UNC path) I can't figure out in what order the result is returned. Using this: call SysFileTree \\mypath\*.*, file, LB, **-** the result seems to be returned in a arbitrary order. \\mypath is a linuxmachine /hex-- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] New SYSFILETREE order of returned values
Ok, I see I haven't tried the old sysfiletree with UNC path so have no clue if it differs in result returned, probably not. The new sysfiletree seems to work with UNC path's from Win7 anyhow and the returned values is in arbitrary order, the same arbitrary order is returned if the the path is on a mapped network drive (drive letter), but looking at the same path/drive letter in windowsexplorer shows files in alphabetic order, maybe they are sorted before display! Maybe a note in the manual about this can be useful, if this behaviour is confirmed by others/testing. /hex - Ursprungligt Meddelande: Från: Mark Miesfeld miesf...@gmail.com Till: hexi...@users.sourceforge.net, Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Kopia: Datum: onsdag, 08 augusti 2012 20:47 Ämne: Re: [Oorexx-devel] New SYSFILETREE order of returned values On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 11:07 AM, hakan hexi...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: This is on win7 64bit and oorexx 4.2.0 8149. Using the new SYSFILETREE , maybe it also applies to the old SYSFILETREE!, I have a question. There is nothing in the reworked code that would change this from the previous version. In what order is the result returned in the steam ? Reading a windows path, it seems the result is returned in alphabetic order, but reading a networkpath (UNC path) I can't figure out in what order the result is returned. Using this: call SysFileTree \\mypath\*.*, file, LB, **-** the result seems to be returned in a arbitrary order. \\mypath is a linuxmachine SysFileTree does nothing to change the order of the files returned by the Windows API. It uses the Windows APIs, FindFirstFile() / FindNextFile(). Whatever order these APIs return the found files in, will be the order in the stem. This is dictated by the operating system, there are no options to pass into the APIs to change the order. Note that I would be careful about using UNC path names for SysFileTree(). There is nothing in the docs saying UNC path names are acceptable. And there is nothing in the original IBM code that points to any consideration being given to the possibility of UNC path names being used. I'm not saying it won't work, and maybe there is no problem. I'm just saying it doesn't look like any thought was given to that possibility. I didn't dig into that possibility while going through the code either. -- Mark Miesfeld -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] New SYSFILETREE order of returned values
Brandon is correct. tried dir \\mypath and got the same arbitrary order. I think this should be mentioned in the manual. /hex - Ursprungligt Meddelande: Från: Brandon Cherry bran...@safedatausa.com Till: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Kopia: Datum: onsdag, 08 augusti 2012 21:22 Ämne: Re: [Oorexx-devel] New SYSFILETREE order of returned values I noticed this issue with a samba share. If you try doing a 'dir' from the command line, my guess would be you would get the same results. My search lead me to this fix: http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages-3/vfs_dirsort.8.html -- Brandon Cherry On 8/8/2012 3:10 PM, hakan wrote: Ok, I see I haven't tried the old sysfiletree with UNC path so have no clue if it differs in result returned, probably not. The new sysfiletree seems to work with UNC path's from Win7 anyhow and the returned values is in arbitrary order, the same arbitrary order is returned if the the path is on a mapped network drive (drive letter), but looking at the same path/drive letter in windowsexplorer shows files in alphabetic order, maybe they are sorted before display! Maybe a note in the manual about this can be useful, if this behaviour is confirmed by others/testing. /hex -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooSQLite 'sanitizer' / 'encapsulate' functionality added.
Much appreciated and useful method/function
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Ämne: [Oorexx-devel] ooSQLite 'sanitizer' / 'encapsulate' functionality added.
After the discussion the other day, I have added a method and a function to
ooSQLite that can be used as a sanitizer function.
.ooSQLite~enquote(v)
This takes either a single object as the argument or an array of objects.
A string is returned with the object or objects converted to SQL
literals. The string value of the object is enclosed in single quotes and
if the string value contains any single quotes, those single quotes are
escaped. Any object that is the .nil object is converted to NULL, no
single quotes. If the argument is an array, then the indexes 1 through N
where N == the size of the array are converted and added to the returned
string with a comma separating the literals.
If any index within 1 through N is missing, then that index is converted to
NULL.
ooSQLiteEnquote() is the classic Rexx function that does the same general
thing. Instead of an array it accepts a stem: stem.0 == N and stems stem.1
through stem.N are converted.
Here are some examples from the documentation:
r1 = .array~new(4)
r1[1] = Tom
r1[2] = Hanks
r1[4] = male
r2 = .array~of(Mike, , 555-9988, .nil)
sql1 = INSERT INTO my_table (fName, lName, phone, gender)
VALUES(ooSQLite~enquote(r1));
sql2 = INSERT INTO my_table (fName, lName, phone, gender)
VALUES(ooSQLite~enquote(r2));
say sql1
say sql2
/* Output would be:
INSERT INTO my_table (fName, lName, phone, gender) VALUES('Tom', 'Hanks',
NULL, 'male');
INSERT INTO my_table (fName, lName, phone, gender) VALUES('Mike', NULL,
'555-9988', NULL);
*/
str = It's a happy day!
say .ooSQLite~Enquote(str)
/* Output would be:
'It''s a happy day!'
*/
Similar thing for ooSQLiteEnquote():
r1.0 = 4
r1.1 = Tom
r1.2 = Hanks
r1.4 = male
r2.0 = 4
r2.1 = Mike
r2.3 = 555-9988
r2.4 = .nil
sql1 = INSERT INTO my_table (fName, lName, phone, gender)
VALUES(ooSQLiteEnquote(r1.));
sql2 = INSERT INTO my_table (fName, lName, phone, gender)
VALUES(ooSQLiteEnquote(r2.));
say sql1
say sql2
/* Output would be:
INSERT INTO my_table (fName, lName, phone, gender) VALUES('Tom', 'Hanks',
NULL, 'male');
INSERT INTO my_table (fName, lName, phone, gender) VALUES('Mike', NULL,
'555-9988', NULL);
*/
str = It's a happy day!
say .ooSQLite~Enquote(str)
/* Output would be:
'It''s a happy day!'
*/
Separating the values in an array is very convenient for INSERT
statements. Are there any other uses of literals in SQL statments that
this functionality could improve on?
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[Oorexx-devel] ooSQLite NULL value ?
Is it possible to get some assistance from ooSQLite code regarding NULL values
in SQL statments ?
Lets say you define a table like this (from ooSQLite examples more or less) in
a database
sql = CREATE TABLE addr_type ( || .endOfLine || -
id INTEGER PRIMARY KEY, || .endOfLine || -
somecol TEXT , || .endOfLine || -
type TEXT NOT NULL DEFAULT 'Home' || .endOfLine || -
);
Now with ooRexx and ooSQlite you use this SQL INSERT stmt
mytype = 'WORK'
somecol_value = '' -- or somecol_value = 'NULL' or somecol_value = .nil or
somecol_value = NULL
i.e somecol_value has NO value (.nil in oorexx, NULL in SQL)
sql = INSERT INTO addr_type (type,somecol) VALUES(' || mytype || ',' ||
somecol_value || ');
will give sql -- INSERT INTO addr_type (type,somecol) VALUES('WORK',''); or
INSERT INTO addr_type (type,somecol) VALUES('WORK','NULL');
or INSERT INTO addr_type (type,somecol) VALUES('WORK','.nil object');
Note that SQLite treat the 'NULL' etc as a literal string and not a SQL NULL
in the database the somcol will NOT be NULL ( in terms of SQL) it will have a
value of '' or NULL (as a string) or nil object.. (as a string) etc..
My get around for the moment is to do a: SQL = SQL~changestr('NULL',NULL)
before the exceution of the database stmnt
that will give INSERT INTO addr_type (type,somecol) VALUES('WORK',NULL); -- no
quotes around NULL
But can it be possible to get support for .nil (NULL) in ooSQLite so the each
sql statement is scanned (to remove the quotes) before handover to SQLite.
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooSQLiteDB name change to ooSQLiteDbConn or ?
No offense, but... Isn't it great that someone take their time to implement the interface to SQLite when oneself is not talent/or lack the knowledge how to do it !. If SQLite will evolve and that is delayed/not implemented in ooSQLite, well you can always do the implementation yourself, but as I see it, you can't demand that it should be incorporated in ooSQLite. That kind of support normally is something one have to pay for, so building a commercial ooREXX application with ooSQLite, one can't demand anything from the developers of ooREXX/ooSQLite. The developed application is one owns responsibility and any demands should be solved by oneself or just accept the current status of the ooREXX/ooSQLite.. As English is not my native language, I don't want to argue, just to give some of my thoughts. I think ooREXX/ooSQLite/ooDialog is a great piece of software and are very satisfied with it. Great work ! /hex - Ursprungligt Meddelande: Från: Jeremy Nicoll - ml sourceforge jn.ml.sfrg...@letterboxes.org Till: oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Kopia: Datum: fredag, 15 juni 2012 17:17 Ämne: Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooSQLiteDB name change to ooSQLiteDbConn or ? Mark Miesfeld miesf...@gmail.com wrote: If the ooSQLite package gets included in the ooRexx distribution then an application written that uses ooSQLite will run on any system where the user of the application has ooRexx installed. And the user will not have to install anything else. But hopefully there's some way that the user can choose to install something else - a different build of whatever binary you provide, that has a different SQLite build inside(*) it? * - if it is statically linked 'inside' your binary? Or are you allowing a named DLL to be loaded by your interface code? I know from reading the SQLite users mail list - though I've not yet used SQLite for anything - that some users also make custom builds of SQLite themselves (see compile flags at http://www.sqlite.org/compile.html ). I would expect that if someone was using a custom-built SQLite binary for some application they'd want to be able to include it or build an equivalent into an instance of the ooRexx SQLite package, if they wanted to use ooRexx as part of that application. -- Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooSQLite usage
As I saw that ooSQLite was updated in incubator, regarding the SQLite backup API,I downloaded the source and compiled it under windows 7 64bit. From the sample /testing/loadDatabase.rex, I made my own database loading rex. The program creates a sqlite database in memory, with 6 columns, read and parse a 181Mb file and creates SQL insert statements, then inserts the resulting records (101657 records) into the memory database and last step save the in memory database to disc. This programs elapsed time was around 61-65 seconds( including copy to disc) , compared to the previous ~17 MINUTES when using a disc based database only, with same data. Great improvment. By the way I also downloaded the latest SQLite source 3.7.13 and used that in the compile above. All works very well. /hex - Ursprungligt Meddelande: Från: hakan hexi...@users.sourceforge.net Till: Mark Miesfeld miesf...@gmail.com Kopia: Datum: fredag, 08 juni 2012 22:20 Ämne: Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooSQLite usage Well, tried with BEGIN TRANSACTION. COMMIT and cut the time by around 5 minutes, so when initial loading is done, it seems that inmemory database is much quickier, because of hardisc speed, if a possibility to save the inmemory database to harddisc is available. Looking forward to your implementation of the .backup (.dot ) commands in ooSQLite. Keep up your good work (as a side note I am very satisfied with ooDialog 4.2 excellent work, I love it, maybe as I now understand how it works (at least to some point) and how to use it together with ooRexx, OO is hard for an old mainframer :-) ) /hex - Ursprungligt Meddelande: Från: Mark Miesfeld miesf...@gmail.com Till: hexi...@users.sourceforge.net, Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Kopia: Datum: fredag, 08 juni 2012 21:13 Ämne: Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooSQLite usage Very cool. On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:07 AM, hakan hexi...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: After trying the ooSQLite package, I must say I am very impressed (well I am not a DB person, so the learning curve is step) but I find it useful for some of my ooREXX programs. The samples have been very helpful, I am now able to create, load and query a database/tables in ooREXX. One thing is performance, when creating a new database, I have read/parsed a file and then loaded it (92 000 rows) to a database/table , took around 17 minutes on a i3 2.13Ghz ! From my reading (but I'm also not a DB person) this is a problem with INSERTS with not using an explicit BEGIN TRANSACTION COMMIT. As I understand it, for every individual SQL statement executed, SQLite will implicitly add the BEGIN TRANSACTION / COMMIT if it is not already within a transaction. The SQLite engine only does about 4 or 5 inserts a second under this condition. If you add the explicit BEGIN TRANSACTION before the first insert and then end with COMMIT the speed should be more normal. Something like this: BEGIN TRANSACTION; INSERT INTO episodes VALUES(0, NULL, 'Good News Bad News'); INSERT INTO episodes VALUES(1, 1, 'Male Unbonding'); INSERT INTO episodes VALUES(2, 1, 'The Stake Out'); INSERT INTO episodes VALUES(3, 1, 'The Robbery'); ... INSERT INTO food_types VALUES(13, 'Seafood'); INSERT INTO food_types VALUES(14, 'Soup'); INSERT INTO food_types VALUES(15, 'Vegetables'); COMMIT; I guess it is COMMIT not END TRANSACTION. I first thought it was END TRANSACTION. The above is the raw SQL, I'm assuming you are wrapping the raw SQL in a prepared statement. I then tried to to create a ooSQLite database in memory instead of a file (ooSQLite supports this, I used :memory: instead of a filename) then loading the same amount of data took around 15-20 seconds, but there is one problem I can't save the in memory database to a file with ooSQLite, as I understand from SQLite website there exist an backup API that let you save an in memory database to disc. I have tried it with the ooSQLITE3.exe (cli interface) doing the same as the ooRexx program( except backup) above does, by opening a :memory: database then create a table, then use .read file with SQL inserts and last use the .backup file CLI command. The result is that with the same amont of rows (inserts) it took around 30 seconds to have the database copied to disc including the SQl inserts. So, Question is is it possible to implement the backup api (to be able to copy a in memory database to disc) in ooSQLite, maybe also to make inserts into a database from a file (like the .read file CLi command). ? I may have missed something regarding this! Yes, both of those things are next on my list. Or at least very near the top. I intend to support the backup API as the next coding I do. In addition, I've planned from the start to support the dot commands present in the command line shell in ooSQLite classes. The most important ones like .dump, .read, .schema, etc., first. Maybe not all of them, I'm
Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooSQLite usage
Found one strange thing
The program creates an array of SQL insert statements, after parse of the
source file.
This array is then used to do the actuall insert in the memory database (the
array is also saved to a file)
memDB = .ooSQLiteConnection~new(:memory:)
discDB = .ooSQLiteBackup~new(memDB, fileDB)
..
do sql over mycmds
stmt = .ooSQLiteStmt~new(memDB, sql)
stmt~step
stmt~finalize
end
and then
/* here we do the backup to disc */
ret = discdb~step(-1)
if ret == discDB~DONE then do
say 'Back up finished with no error:' --discDB~lastErrCode
discDB~lastErrMsg
end
memDB~close
What's happening is that one empty record is inserted in the database !
creating an in memory database with ooSQlLite3 ( ooSQLite :memory:)
and create table and then loading the table with .read mycmds.txt will not
create an empy row in memory database
the last 2 record of input file (array) is
INSERT INTO LIDS (lid, uid, empid, Name, privileges) VALUES('x',
yyy ', ' z', 'name', privileges'); -- can't show
real values
--empty line -- (just empty x'0D0A' )
file is created with
f =.stream~new(mycmds.txt)
do line over mycmds/* Write the lines */
f~lineout(line)
end
f~close
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Ämne: Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooSQLite usage
As I saw that ooSQLite was updated in incubator, regarding the SQLite backup
API,I downloaded the source and compiled it under windows 7 64bit. From the
sample /testing/loadDatabase.rex, I made my own database loading rex.
The program creates a sqlite database in memory, with 6 columns, read and parse
a 181Mb file and creates SQL insert statements, then inserts the resulting
records (101657 records) into the memory database and last step save the in
memory database to disc.
This programs elapsed time was around 61-65 seconds( including copy to disc) ,
compared to the previous ~17 MINUTES when using a disc based database only,
with same data.
Great improvment.
By the way I also downloaded the latest SQLite source 3.7.13 and used that in
the compile above.
All works very well.
/hex
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Ämne: Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooSQLite usage
Well, tried with BEGIN TRANSACTION. COMMIT and cut the time by around 5
minutes, so when initial loading is done, it seems that inmemory database is
much quickier, because of hardisc speed, if a possibility to save the inmemory
database to harddisc is available.
Looking forward to your implementation of the .backup (.dot ) commands in
ooSQLite.
Keep up your good work (as a side note I am very satisfied with ooDialog 4.2
excellent work, I love it, maybe as I now understand how it works (at least to
some point) and how to use it together with ooRexx, OO is hard for an old
mainframer :-) )
/hex
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Datum: fredag, 08 juni 2012 21:13
Ämne: Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooSQLite usage
Very cool.
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:07 AM, hakan hexi...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
After trying the ooSQLite package, I must say I am very impressed (well I am
not a DB person, so the learning curve is step) but I find it useful for
some of my ooREXX programs.
The samples have been very helpful, I am now able to create, load and query
a database/tables in ooREXX.
One thing is performance, when creating a new database, I have read/parsed a
file and then loaded it (92 000 rows) to a database/table , took around 17
minutes on a i3 2.13Ghz !
From my reading (but I'm also not a DB person) this is a problem with
INSERTS with not using an explicit BEGIN TRANSACTION COMMIT.
As I understand it, for every individual SQL statement executed,
SQLite will implicitly add the BEGIN TRANSACTION / COMMIT if it is not
already within a transaction. The SQLite engine only does about 4 or
5 inserts a second under this condition.
If you add the explicit BEGIN TRANSACTION before the first insert and
then end with COMMIT the speed should be more normal. Something like
this:
BEGIN TRANSACTION;
INSERT INTO episodes VALUES(0, NULL, 'Good News Bad News');
INSERT INTO episodes VALUES(1, 1, 'Male Unbonding');
INSERT INTO episodes VALUES(2, 1, 'The Stake Out');
INSERT INTO episodes VALUES(3, 1, 'The Robbery');
...
INSERT INTO food_types VALUES(13, 'Seafood');
INSERT INTO food_types VALUES(14, 'Soup');
INSERT INTO food_types VALUES(15, 'Vegetables');
COMMIT;
I guess it is COMMIT not END TRANSACTION. I first thought it was END
TRANSACTION.
The above is the raw SQL, I'm assuming
Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooSQLite usage
False alarm,
After rereading my program code I found out that I had a return statement
missing.
After writing the array of commands to a file, there was an item, which was an
empty SQL INSERT statement, added to the array of commands.
Sorry for the confusion.
/hex
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Datum: fredag, 15 juni 2012 01:26
Ämne: Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooSQLite usage
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 1:11 PM, hakan hexi...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
Found one strange thing
The program creates an array of SQL insert statements, after parse of the
source file.
This array is then used to do the actuall insert in the memory database (the
array is also saved to a file)
memDB = .ooSQLiteConnection~new(:memory:)
discDB = .ooSQLiteBackup~new(memDB, fileDB)
..
do sql over mycmds
stmt = .ooSQLiteStmt~new(memDB, sql)
stmt~step
stmt~finalize
end
and then
/* here we do the backup to disc */
ret = discdb~step(-1)
if ret == discDB~DONE then do
say 'Back up finished with no error:' --discDB~lastErrCode
discDB~lastErrMsg
end
memDB~close
What's happening is that one empty record is inserted in the database !
creating an in memory database with ooSQlLite3 ( ooSQLite :memory:)
and create table and then loading the table with .read mycmds.txt will not
create an empy row in memory database
the last 2 record of input file (array) is
INSERT INTO LIDS (lid, uid, empid, Name, privileges) VALUES('x',
yyy ', ' z', 'name', privileges'); -- can't
show real values
--empty line -- (just empty x'0D0A' )
Not sure I understand what is happening. Does the empty line get passed into:
stmt = .ooSQLiteStmt~new(memDB, sql)
If you use the same file but load the records the way you first did,
not using an in-memory database, do you still get an empty record?
If you take the same file and chop it down to, say just the last 10
lines in file, do you still get the empty record?
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After trying the ooSQLite package, I must say I am very impressed (well I am not a DB person, so the learning curve is step) but I find it useful for some of my ooREXX programs. The samples have been very helpful, I am now able to create, load and query a database/tables in ooREXX. One thing is performance, when creating a new database, I have read/parsed a file and then loaded it (92 000 rows) to a database/table , took around 17 minutes on a i3 2.13Ghz ! I then tried to to create a ooSQLite database in memory instead of a file (ooSQLite supports this, I used :memory: instead of a filename) then loading the same amount of data took around 15-20 seconds, but there is one problem I can't save the in memory database to a file with ooSQLite, as I understand from SQLite website there exist an backup API that let you save an in memory database to disc. I have tried it with the ooSQLITE3.exe (cli interface) doing the same as the ooRexx program( except backup) above does, by opening a :memory: database then create a table, then use .read file with SQL inserts and last use the .backup file CLI command. The result is that with the same amont of rows (inserts) it took around 30 seconds to have the database copied to disc including the SQl inserts. So, Question is is it possible to implement the backup api (to be able to copy a in memory database to disc) in ooSQLite, maybe also to make inserts into a database from a file (like the .read file CLi command). ? I may have missed something regarding this! /hex-- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Oorexx-devel mailing list Oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oorexx-devel
Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooSQLite usage
Well, tried with BEGIN TRANSACTION. COMMIT and cut the time by around 5 minutes, so when initial loading is done, it seems that inmemory database is much quickier, because of hardisc speed, if a possibility to save the inmemory database to harddisc is available. Looking forward to your implementation of the .backup (.dot ) commands in ooSQLite. Keep up your good work (as a side note I am very satisfied with ooDialog 4.2 excellent work, I love it, maybe as I now understand how it works (at least to some point) and how to use it together with ooRexx, OO is hard for an old mainframer :-) ) /hex - Ursprungligt Meddelande: Från: Mark Miesfeld miesf...@gmail.com Till: hexi...@users.sourceforge.net, Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List oorexx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Kopia: Datum: fredag, 08 juni 2012 21:13 Ämne: Re: [Oorexx-devel] ooSQLite usage Very cool. On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:07 AM, hakan hexi...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: After trying the ooSQLite package, I must say I am very impressed (well I am not a DB person, so the learning curve is step) but I find it useful for some of my ooREXX programs. The samples have been very helpful, I am now able to create, load and query a database/tables in ooREXX. One thing is performance, when creating a new database, I have read/parsed a file and then loaded it (92 000 rows) to a database/table , took around 17 minutes on a i3 2.13Ghz ! From my reading (but I'm also not a DB person) this is a problem with INSERTS with not using an explicit BEGIN TRANSACTION COMMIT. As I understand it, for every individual SQL statement executed, SQLite will implicitly add the BEGIN TRANSACTION / COMMIT if it is not already within a transaction. The SQLite engine only does about 4 or 5 inserts a second under this condition. If you add the explicit BEGIN TRANSACTION before the first insert and then end with COMMIT the speed should be more normal. Something like this: BEGIN TRANSACTION; INSERT INTO episodes VALUES(0, NULL, 'Good News Bad News'); INSERT INTO episodes VALUES(1, 1, 'Male Unbonding'); INSERT INTO episodes VALUES(2, 1, 'The Stake Out'); INSERT INTO episodes VALUES(3, 1, 'The Robbery'); ... INSERT INTO food_types VALUES(13, 'Seafood'); INSERT INTO food_types VALUES(14, 'Soup'); INSERT INTO food_types VALUES(15, 'Vegetables'); COMMIT; I guess it is COMMIT not END TRANSACTION. I first thought it was END TRANSACTION. The above is the raw SQL, I'm assuming you are wrapping the raw SQL in a prepared statement. I then tried to to create a ooSQLite database in memory instead of a file (ooSQLite supports this, I used :memory: instead of a filename) then loading the same amount of data took around 15-20 seconds, but there is one problem I can't save the in memory database to a file with ooSQLite, as I understand from SQLite website there exist an backup API that let you save an in memory database to disc. I have tried it with the ooSQLITE3.exe (cli interface) doing the same as the ooRexx program( except backup) above does, by opening a :memory: database then create a table, then use .read file with SQL inserts and last use the .backup file CLI command. The result is that with the same amont of rows (inserts) it took around 30 seconds to have the database copied to disc including the SQl inserts. So, Question is is it possible to implement the backup api (to be able to copy a in memory database to disc) in ooSQLite, maybe also to make inserts into a database from a file (like the .read file CLi command). ? I may have missed something regarding this! Yes, both of those things are next on my list. Or at least very near the top. I intend to support the backup API as the next coding I do. In addition, I've planned from the start to support the dot commands present in the command line shell in ooSQLite classes. The most important ones like .dump, .read, .schema, etc., first. Maybe not all of them, I'm not sure they all make sense. But .dump and .read are very useful. Right now, my plan is to add them to the .ooSQLite class. So, something like: .ooSQLite~read(dbObj, fileName) would read the SQL statements in fileName and execute them on the database connection dbObj. .ooSQLite~dump(dbObj, fileName) would dump the data base to fileName. Although both of those commands could be added to .ooSQLiteConnection instead, makeing it: dbConn~dump(fileName) dbConn~read(fileName) I haven't though out the details completely yet, I just intend to add them as soon as possible. For the backup API, the plan is to have a ooSQLiteBackup class.: obj = .ooSQLiteBackup(dbConnObj) then methods on the class to do the backup. I haven't tried the BEGIN TRANSACTION / COMMIT yet. But I think everything is in place to do it. Just like using :memory for the file name. I hadn't tried it yet, but I knew it should work. Let me know if you run into any bugs. You can open them in Tracker, probably best, so I don't
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