Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] TPAC and Display of the Summaries...
Hi everyone, Thanks Terran--this gives me something to build with. We do have a training server that I could practice with Appreciate the tips! --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19 -Original Message- From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of McCanna, Terran Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 11:32 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] TPAC and Display of the Summaries More...can you help? Aaah, that makes sense now! Since you're hacking that code anyway, what if you built some additional if-then logic into it (I won't try to attempt writing the code at this moment)... for each node (a or c)... if node is an a set summaryvar = a else if node is a c set summaryvar = summaryvar + c end end Then you wouldn't have any need to change the summaryplus.tt2 Terran McCanna PINES Program Manager Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 Atlanta, GA 30345 404-235-7138 tmcca...@georgialibraries.org - Original Message - From: Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org To: Evergreen Discussion Group open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 9:24:36 PM Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] TPAC and Display of the Summaries More...can you help? Hi Ben, Terran, folks, Thanks much for the replies...I guess I should explain where that subfield C is coming in. I hacked the misc_util.tt2 file to include that extra subfield c (Our catalogers wanted it to show up in the catalog). Here's my alterations to that file: args.summaries = []; FOR sub IN xml.findnodes('//*[@tag=520]/*[@code=a or @code=”c”]'); args.summaries.push(sub.textContent); END; args.summary = (args.summaries.size) ? args.summaries.0 : ''; As far as it goes, it's not the end of the world...I was just curious if this was possibleI guess I'm so used to dealing with regular HTML that the *.tt2 files are still somewhat mysterious Appreciate you taking a look at this! --Tony From: Open-ils-general open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org on behalf of McCanna, Terran tmcca...@georgialibraries.org Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 5:48 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] TPAC and Display of the Summaries More...can you help? Hmmph... yes, it looks like it's treating the content from each node the same regardless of which subfield it came from. Because of that, if you removed line 6 from the summaryplus.tt2 files, it would remove all the line breaks and if there were multiple 520s it would run them all together. Terran McCanna PINES Program Manager Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 Atlanta, GA 30345 404-235-7138 tmcca...@georgialibraries.org - Original Message - From: Ben Shum bs...@biblio.org To: Evergreen Discussion Group open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 4:56:53 PM Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] TPAC and Display of the Summaries More...can you help? Well actually, I think this is an odd MARC issue, where the Provided by publisher line is part of another subfield. 520c, in the case of that record anyways. That confuses me slightly cause of the following: In summaryplus.tt2, the default seems to grab and create spans for attrs.summaries (which whenever I see attrs, I go to check misc_util.tt2 to see how it comes up with those attributes). But in misc_util.tt2, the attrs.summaries seems to generate using only 520a data. No mention of c. So something is roping in extra content unexpectedly there. Otherwise, I would expect that multiple 520 statements would result in span content that is broken up into separate lines. -- Ben On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 4:28 PM, McCanna, Terran tmcca...@georgialibraries.org wrote: Hi Tony, I believe you would want to look at 1) openils\var\templates\opac\parts\record\summaryplus.tt2 and maybe 2) openils\var\templates\opac\css\style.css.tt2 (where it refers to .rdetail-extras-summary ) I hope that helps! Terran McCanna PINES Program Manager Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 Atlanta, GA 30345 404-235-7138 tmcca...@georgialibraries.org - Original Message - From: Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org To: Evergreen Discussion Group open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 3:03:53 PM Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] TPAC and Display of the Summaries More...can you help? Hello everyone, I've been whacking away at this for a few days now and not having much luckthought I would toss this out to the group in case you have solved this already. Upshot: We're
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] TPAC and Display of the Summaries More...can you help?
Hi Ben, Terran, folks, Thanks much for the replies...I guess I should explain where that subfield C is coming in. I hacked the misc_util.tt2 file to include that extra subfield c (Our catalogers wanted it to show up in the catalog). Here's my alterations to that file: args.summaries = []; FOR sub IN xml.findnodes('//*[@tag=520]/*[@code=a or @code=”c”]'); args.summaries.push(sub.textContent); END; args.summary = (args.summaries.size) ? args.summaries.0 : ''; As far as it goes, it's not the end of the world...I was just curious if this was possibleI guess I'm so used to dealing with regular HTML that the *.tt2 files are still somewhat mysterious Appreciate you taking a look at this! --Tony From: Open-ils-general open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org on behalf of McCanna, Terran tmcca...@georgialibraries.org Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 5:48 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] TPAC and Display of the Summaries More...can you help? Hmmph... yes, it looks like it's treating the content from each node the same regardless of which subfield it came from. Because of that, if you removed line 6 from the summaryplus.tt2 files, it would remove all the line breaks and if there were multiple 520s it would run them all together. Terran McCanna PINES Program Manager Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 Atlanta, GA 30345 404-235-7138 tmcca...@georgialibraries.org - Original Message - From: Ben Shum bs...@biblio.org To: Evergreen Discussion Group open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 4:56:53 PM Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] TPAC and Display of the Summaries More...can you help? Well actually, I think this is an odd MARC issue, where the Provided by publisher line is part of another subfield. 520c, in the case of that record anyways. That confuses me slightly cause of the following: In summaryplus.tt2, the default seems to grab and create spans for attrs.summaries (which whenever I see attrs, I go to check misc_util.tt2 to see how it comes up with those attributes). But in misc_util.tt2, the attrs.summaries seems to generate using only 520a data. No mention of c. So something is roping in extra content unexpectedly there. Otherwise, I would expect that multiple 520 statements would result in span content that is broken up into separate lines. -- Ben On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 4:28 PM, McCanna, Terran tmcca...@georgialibraries.org wrote: Hi Tony, I believe you would want to look at 1) openils\var\templates\opac\parts\record\summaryplus.tt2 and maybe 2) openils\var\templates\opac\css\style.css.tt2 (where it refers to .rdetail-extras-summary ) I hope that helps! Terran McCanna PINES Program Manager Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 Atlanta, GA 30345 404-235-7138 tmcca...@georgialibraries.org - Original Message - From: Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org To: Evergreen Discussion Group open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 3:03:53 PM Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] TPAC and Display of the Summaries More...can you help? Hello everyone, I've been whacking away at this for a few days now and not having much luckthought I would toss this out to the group in case you have solved this already. Upshot: We're running Evergreen 2.7.2 hosted and want to change/edit how the summary statement shows up on the TPAC. --- Try this search: http://blanchester.cool-cat.org/eg/opac/record/948395. Once the record appears on the screen, scroll down to the Summaries More to expand the section. If I wanted to edit how this displays in the TPAC, for example removing the line break and pushing the Provided by publisher back up to the main paragraph, how would I do this? If it was just regular html code, it would be a simple matter of removing the line break. However, since the tpac is using *.tt2 files-which file builds these results? I thought it might be the extras.tt2 file, but after perusing that one for a while, I'm not seeing anything. --- I'm no expert, just trying to fix our TPAC, so if you can share any fixes, tips or tricks, I would really appreciate it! Thanks in advance for your thoughts --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19 -- Benjamin Shum Evergreen Systems Manager Bibliomation, Inc. 24 Wooster Ave. Waterbury, CT 06708 203-577-4070, ext. 113
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] TPAC and Display of the Summaries More...can you help?
Hello everyone, I've been whacking away at this for a few days now and not having much luckthought I would toss this out to the group in case you have solved this already. Upshot: We're running Evergreen 2.7.2 hosted and want to change/edit how the summary statement shows up on the TPAC. --- Try this search: http://blanchester.cool-cat.org/eg/opac/record/948395. Once the record appears on the screen, scroll down to the Summaries More to expand the section. If I wanted to edit how this displays in the TPAC, for example removing the line break and pushing the Provided by publisher back up to the main paragraph, how would I do this? If it was just regular html code, it would be a simple matter of removing the line break. However, since the tpac is using *.tt2 files-which file builds these results? I thought it might be the extras.tt2 file, but after perusing that one for a while, I'm not seeing anything. --- I'm no expert, just trying to fix our TPAC, so if you can share any fixes, tips or tricks, I would really appreciate it! Thanks in advance for your thoughts --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Full author date on individual titles?
Hello everyone, Galen, Mike, Thanks much for the input--I appreciate it! --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19 -Original Message- From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Galen Charlton Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 4:03 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Full author date on individual titles? Hi, On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org wrote: 2. Now if I select that particular title: http://blanchester.cool-cat.org/eg/opac/record/930326?query=Sandford%2 C%20John.;qtype=author;locg=111 The results are: Sandford, John, 1944- Cook, Michele. Thanks for providing the example. It turns out that opac/parts/record/authors.tt2 is in fact responsible for displaying 100 1# ‡a Sandford, John, ‡d 1944 February 23- as Sandford, John, 1944- or more to the point: span class=rdetail-author-div typeof=Person property=author resource=#schemacontrib1 a href=/eg/opac/results?... span property=nameSandford, John,/span span property=birthDate1944/span-/span/a nbsp /span Specifically, as part of generating the schema.org markup, only the year component of 1944 February 23- is kept. The normalization is done in the following lines of authors.tt2: IF subfield.textContent.match('^\s*\d{4}'); birthdate = subfield.textContent.replace('^\s*(\d{4}).*$', '$1'); END; I *think* that better markup for the birth date in this case would be the following, but I'm hoping Dan Scott can advise further: time property=birthDate datetime=1944-02-231994 February 23-/time Or, to avoid putting in a full date string parser into the template, perhaps something like this: time property=birthDate datetime=19441994 February 23-/time Regards, Galen -- Galen Charlton Infrastructure and Added Services Manager Equinox Software, Inc. / The Open Source Experts email: g...@esilibrary.com direct: +1 770-709-5581 cell: +1 404-984-4366 skype: gmcharlt web:http://www.esilibrary.com/ Supporting Koha and Evergreen: http://koha-community.org http://evergreen-ils.org
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Full author date on individual titles?
Hello everyone! I've been whacking away at this for a few days now, but can't seem to be finding any info. Thought maybe if you had run into this, might be able to steer me in the right direction? On our Evergreen 2.7.2 system, when we search for an author, say Ernie Pyle, the results list includes a full birthdate in this format: Author--YEAR-Month-Day However, when looking at individual title results, the format is only this: Author--YEAR I know more than likely it's something with the authors.tt2 file (misc tt2 file as well???) but not quite sure Have you run into this before? Any thoughts? Thanks in advance for your help! --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Full author date on individual titles?
Hi Galen, folks, Thanks for the update! --- Here's a search that should show a bit better: 1. Search our Blanchester Library for books from John Sandford http://blanchester.cool-cat.org/eg/opac/results?fi%3Aformat=query=Sandford%2C+John.qtype=authorlocg=111 The results are mixed, but if you look at the hit for Uncaged you will see: Sandford, John, 1944 February 23- 2. Now if I select that particular title: http://blanchester.cool-cat.org/eg/opac/record/930326?query=Sandford%2C%20John.;qtype=author;locg=111 The results are: Sandford, John, 1944- Cook, Michele. --- I'm not a cataloger, so maybe the full date is a nonstandard use? I checked the authors.tt2 file(s), but wasn't sure--thinking maybe it might be something else? I checked the bugs list as well, but didn't see anything directly related... Thanks for any ideas as you have a moment! --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19 -Original Message- From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Galen Charlton Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 3:19 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Full author date on individual titles? Hi, On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org wrote: On our Evergreen 2.7.2 system, when we search for an author, say Ernie Pyle, the results list includes a full birthdate in this format: Author--YEAR—Month—Day However, when looking at individual title results, the format is only this: Author--YEAR Could you send links to search results and title details showing the problem? I tried doing an author search for Ernie Pyle in your catalog, and am not seeing hits that include the author's full birthdate (which aren't commonly found in name headings). Regards, Galen -- Galen Charlton Infrastructure and Added Services Manager Equinox Software, Inc. / The Open Source Experts email: g...@esilibrary.com direct: +1 770-709-5581 cell: +1 404-984-4366 skype: gmcharlt web:http://www.esilibrary.com/ Supporting Koha and Evergreen: http://koha-community.org http://evergreen-ils.org
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] self-check receipt config?
Hi all, I've been working with one of our libraries on the self-checkout and we're running into issues configuring the receipt printer. . A regular 8.5 x 11 personal laser prints things out on a single sheet pretty well, but using a label/receipt paper printer, there's an excessive amount of feed. The library was able to solve this issue with their regular staff-client workstations (using the same printers) by making changes in the printer settings editor. However, with the self-check, I'm thinking this is not an option? I've checked the documentation, some of the links mentioned here, http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=scratchpad:simple_self_check, and a few other places, but can't seem to find anything too specificmaybe I'm overlooking stuff. I also need to go back and take another run at the printer config as well, but wanted to ask around first to see about software changes. If you have any links or other information, would you mind to share? Appreciate it! --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] self-check receipt config?
Hi Ben, folks, Appreciate the update! This is using the updated 2.7.X selfcheck interface via a standard web browser (Chrome, FF). My test printer is a Zebra GX430t attached via USB. I think the library is using another type of printer, similar to the Zebra I'm using (USB, etc.). Appreciate the OpenKiosk information--I had forgotten about that. I will give it a whack. Thanks, --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19 -Original Message- From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Ben Shum Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 12:22 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] self-check receipt config? Hi Tony, For clarification, are you speaking about an actual selfcheck appliance by a specific vendor? Or are you using the Evergreen web selfcheckout interface via some sort of dedicated browser on a machine? If the latter, the Evergreen web selfcheckout's printing might rely mainly on the browser's configuration actually. For our libs who use web selfcheck, we generally recommended using OpenKiosk (http://openkiosk.mozdevgroup.com/) and what we've found is that in certain cases with receipt printers, we had to manually tweak the OpenKiosk configuration files to apply certain printer settings. As a variant browser based of Mozilla Firefox, what I found is that I could compare configuration file prefs.js from Firefox's appdata directory to OpenKiosk's. So I experimented by configuring Firefox to print the way I wanted to, then copied over printer_* related lines from that prefs.js over to OpenKiosk's prefs.js file. I do not have this information readily available to share, but there might be further information to be found online in other forums. Also, for the lists and general information, the wiki link that Tony found is to an older selfcheck interface that will soon be removed (it is already deprecated and not supported). See https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1312297 for notes on removal. That wiki page should probably be deleted at some point. Or updated to reflect the newer tt2 based selfcheck. -- Ben On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org wrote: Hi all, I’ve been working with one of our libraries on the self-checkout and we’re running into issues configuring the receipt printer. . A regular 8.5 x 11 personal laser prints things out on a single sheet pretty well, but using a label/receipt paper printer, there’s an excessive amount of feed. The library was able to solve this issue with their regular staff-client workstations (using the same printers) by making changes in the printer settings editor. However, with the self-check, I’m thinking this is not an option? I’ve checked the documentation, some of the links mentioned here, http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=scratchpad:simple_self_c heck, and a few other places, but can’t seem to find anything too specific….maybe I’m overlooking stuff. I also need to go back and take another run at the printer config as well, but wanted to ask around first to see about software changes. If you have any links or other information, would you mind to share? Appreciate it! --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19 -- Benjamin Shum Evergreen Systems Manager Bibliomation, Inc. 24 Wooster Ave. Waterbury, CT 06708 203-577-4070, ext. 113
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] self-check receipt config?
Thanks Ben, I do appreciate it--we'll try getting the printer up and running and seeing then if we can port the settings over. --Tony PS: I thought for sure we could fit that page on that super-small printer paper! :) :) Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19 -Original Message- From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Ben Shum Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 12:36 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] self-check receipt config? Hi Tony, Easier then with standard web browsers like Chrome/Firefox. I would expect there to be browser settings available for per-printer configuration, or alternatively, you could configure the OS (Windows, or whatever) to print a specific way by default too, and then tell the browser to use that printer. Sometimes what we do is to configure Windows to use a receipt printer by default, and then adjust paper type, etc. in the printer's configuration in Windows instead of the application specific (Evergreen, web browsers, whatever) and that can work too. If it's the only printer attached to the machine anyways. And you don't print regular sized web page contents on receipt printers... heh. -- Ben On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org wrote: Hi Ben, folks, Appreciate the update! This is using the updated 2.7.X selfcheck interface via a standard web browser (Chrome, FF). My test printer is a Zebra GX430t attached via USB. I think the library is using another type of printer, similar to the Zebra I'm using (USB, etc.). Appreciate the OpenKiosk information--I had forgotten about that. I will give it a whack. Thanks, --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19 -Original Message- From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Ben Shum Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 12:22 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] self-check receipt config? Hi Tony, For clarification, are you speaking about an actual selfcheck appliance by a specific vendor? Or are you using the Evergreen web selfcheckout interface via some sort of dedicated browser on a machine? If the latter, the Evergreen web selfcheckout's printing might rely mainly on the browser's configuration actually. For our libs who use web selfcheck, we generally recommended using OpenKiosk (http://openkiosk.mozdevgroup.com/) and what we've found is that in certain cases with receipt printers, we had to manually tweak the OpenKiosk configuration files to apply certain printer settings. As a variant browser based of Mozilla Firefox, what I found is that I could compare configuration file prefs.js from Firefox's appdata directory to OpenKiosk's. So I experimented by configuring Firefox to print the way I wanted to, then copied over printer_* related lines from that prefs.js over to OpenKiosk's prefs.js file. I do not have this information readily available to share, but there might be further information to be found online in other forums. Also, for the lists and general information, the wiki link that Tony found is to an older selfcheck interface that will soon be removed (it is already deprecated and not supported). See https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1312297 for notes on removal. That wiki page should probably be deleted at some point. Or updated to reflect the newer tt2 based selfcheck. -- Ben On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org wrote: Hi all, I’ve been working with one of our libraries on the self-checkout and we’re running into issues configuring the receipt printer. . A regular 8.5 x 11 personal laser prints things out on a single sheet pretty well, but using a label/receipt paper printer, there’s an excessive amount of feed. The library was able to solve this issue with their regular staff-client workstations (using the same printers) by making changes in the printer settings editor. However, with the self-check, I’m thinking this is not an option? I’ve checked the documentation, some of the links mentioned here, http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=scratchpad:simple_self_ c heck, and a few other places, but can’t seem to find anything too specific….maybe I’m overlooking stuff. I also need to go back and take another run at the printer config as well, but wanted to ask around first to see about software changes. If you have any links or other information, would you mind to share? Appreciate it! --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19 -- Benjamin Shum Evergreen
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Duplicate entry in authors.tt2 (is this bug 958954?)
Hi all, Just wanted to say “thank you” for all the good discussion(s) about this. We are now evaluating the responses and working with our catalogers to see how they want to tackle this issue. So going forward, should we file additional bug reports on this—or what’s the best way to bring about change? Appreciate it!!! --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19 From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Hardy, Elaine Sent: Monday, June 1, 2015 9:33 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Duplicate entry in authors.tt2 (is this bug 958954?) I think it is LC practice to use the terms rather than the codes. Elaine J. Elaine Hardy PINES Collaborative Projects Manager Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Ste 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 404.235.7128 404.235.7201, fax eha...@georgialibraries.orgmailto:eha...@georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.orghttp://www.georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org/pineshttp://www.georgialibraries.org/pines From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Chris Owens Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 9:05 AM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.orgmailto:open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Duplicate entry in authors.tt2 (is this bug 958954?) Regarding Dan's list, which is a good breakdown of the various issues, Part (d) really should be a case of one or the other. There should not be both a $e relator term and $4 relator code in the same field. I am not an RDA expert (or a particularly big fan), but if we are looking to the future I think the $e relator term should take precedence over the $4 relator code. All the RDA records we are seeing are using the $e rather than the $4 and when our consortium just went through the RDA process on all of our records with Backstage, all the $4 codes were converted to $e relator terms. Thanks, Chris Chris Owens Director Blanchester Public Library 110 N. Broadway Blanchester, OH 45107 937-783-3585 937-783-2910 (fax) cow...@blanlibrary.orgmailto:cow...@blanlibrary.org On 5/29/2015 10:57 AM, Dan Scott wrote: It sounds like there are a few issues here, let me see if I can separate them out: a) bug: relator term $e is not being recognized as the relator, but is included in the text display along with parenthetical notation for the default relationship (e.g. 700 = (added author)) b) bug: multiple $4 relator codes are not displayed properly, where properly might mean something like $700 $a White, Jack $4 cre $4 dir should be displayed as White, Jack (creator, director) c) bug: the default relationship of added author for 7xx fields when no relator code or term is specified needs to reflect the underlying item type (e.g. for a musical recording, should display something like Added artist) d) discussion issue: when both $e relator terms and $4 relator codes are included in the same field, it's not clear what to display e) (unknown if this is an issue, but probably) $e relator terms and $4 relator codes may or may not be indexed as expected For my part on (d), I'm still firmly of the belief that $4 relator code should take precedence; it's value can easily be translated in the display (and is, for French) and can be used for linked data (like pointing to http://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/relators/dtc), whereas the $e relator terms are effectively uncontrolled text fields that make both translation and linked data much, much more difficult. Dan On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Hardy, Elaine eha...@georgialibraries.orgmailto:eha...@georgialibraries.org wrote: +1 Elaine J. Elaine Hardy PINES Collaborative Projects Manager Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Ste 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 404.235.7128tel:404.235.7128 404.235.7201tel:404.235.7201, fax eha...@georgialibraries.orgmailto:eha...@georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.orghttp://www.georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org/pineshttp://www.georgialibraries.org/pines From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.orgmailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Sarah Childs Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 4:51 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Duplicate entry in authors.tt2 (is this bug 958954?) A summary of what I propose: If no subfield e or 4, no term should be displayed. Display subfield e if present Display terms based on codes in subfield 4 if present If both subfield e or 4 are present, display one or the other. (Either is fine with me)
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Duplicate entry in authors.tt2 (is this bug 958954?)
Hi Kathy, folks, Thanks much for the update-this helps! Given this, has any other library with a mix of old and new records (pre-RDA and newer RDA) found a work-around for this in your authors.tt2 file? If you have would you be willing to share your coding or any other information? I've checked here, http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.7/_designing_your_catalog.html, but didn't see anything about custom designs on the logic. I'm thinking that adjusting the labels would be the quick fix, but our older records would not display too well --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19 From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Lussier Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:48 PM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Duplicate entry in authors.tt2 (is this bug 958954?) Hi Tony, I think this is a different issue. The issue here is that we previously added (Author) or other relator information in parentheses for pre-RDA records. Now that we have RDA records, the record is also now displaying the relator information from subfield e. Kathy On 05/28/2015 02:41 PM, Tony Bandy wrote: Hello everyone, Quick check if you have a moment? I'm working on TPAC cleanups for our consortium and am noticing title results that include duplicate author notations such as this: Hillenbrand, Laura,http://blanchester-training.cool-cat.org/eg/opac/results?query=Hillenbrand%20%20Laura;qtype=author author. (Author). Herrmann, Edward, 1943-http://blanchester-training.cool-cat.org/eg/opac/results?query=Herrmann%20%20Edward%201943;qtype=author narrator. (Added Author) Doing some digging around, this looks to me like Bug #958954 (see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/958954) - Has anyone encountered this? Do you think this bug is the same thing? I can fix this somewhat by going into the authors.tt2 file and removing the default label, but with that approach, if there is nothing in the subfield, then there will be zero notation after the author's name. If I look at the details for the bug, Dan mentioned there was a fix released? Thanks in advance for any thoughts you might have! --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19 -- Kathy Lussier Project Coordinator Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative (508) 343-0128 kluss...@masslnc.orgmailto:kluss...@masslnc.org Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Duplicate entry in authors.tt2 (is this bug 958954?)
Hello everyone, Quick check if you have a moment? I'm working on TPAC cleanups for our consortium and am noticing title results that include duplicate author notations such as this: Hillenbrand, Laura,http://blanchester-training.cool-cat.org/eg/opac/results?query=Hillenbrand%20%20Laura;qtype=author author. (Author). Herrmann, Edward, 1943-http://blanchester-training.cool-cat.org/eg/opac/results?query=Herrmann%20%20Edward%201943;qtype=author narrator. (Added Author) Doing some digging around, this looks to me like Bug #958954 (see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/958954) - Has anyone encountered this? Do you think this bug is the same thing? I can fix this somewhat by going into the authors.tt2 file and removing the default label, but with that approach, if there is nothing in the subfield, then there will be zero notation after the author's name. If I look at the details for the bug, Dan mentioned there was a fix released? Thanks in advance for any thoughts you might have! --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Authority Control Questions-Maybe a Solution?
Thanks Rogan, this would be something I think a lot of Evergreen libraries would be interested in pursuing…. --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19 From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Rogan Hamby Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:05 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Authority Control Questions-Maybe a Solution? a bit of postscript, I can't speak to the documentation but I tried this as far as creating a new auditor table, and the function and trigger to do this and it worked fine on a test VM. I didn't go so far as to write the query to find them but it should be doable. I might play with it some more if I have some time. On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org wrote: Hi all, Rogan, Appreciate the update….but not being a developer or SQL person, I was a little lost after the second sentence. ☺ If something like this would get done, do you think this could be part of the documentation, etc? --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074tel:614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19tel:614-486-2966%20x19 From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.orgmailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Rogan Hamby Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:49 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Authority Control Questions-Maybe a Solution? Hi Tony, I've never done this but as I hope SCLENDS moves to authorities in the not too distant future I'm interested in this topic a lot. If I remember correctly when a MARC record gets updated the old metabib.real_full_rec entries get deleted and new ones are entered. I would be tempted to create a conditional auditor trigger that only write entries for the headings fields so that it's not a huge auditor table. I've not done that but some quick googling showed up examples of it. It would be a fun experiment if nothing else. Then it would be easy to write a sql report to get distinct records from those whose inserted IDs (current metabib) are different from the audited ones and then export just those records. On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 1:04 PM, Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org wrote: Hello all, At COOL, we’ve recently started authority control with BSLW. We have had our entire DB cleaned up and are getting ready to start the quarterly updates. In this, we will be sending them new bibs that have been added to the system for headings cleanup. However, we are also considering sending edited bibs as well. This would be bib records that were authorized and cleaned up, but have since been overlaid or updated. The biggest issue we are having is how to do this. While the edit date in the bib is a starting point, we really only want to send bibs whose headings have changed, not other values in the record. The question is: How? We’ve looked at the auditing tables as a starting point, but am thinking there might be a better solution: - Initial thoughts: 1.Using PGAdmin, we can extract a list of TCN’s that have been modified (edited) since our last full DB dump. 2. Using this list, extract bibs in MARC format from the system. 3. Using MARC Compare (found in Marc Edit 6.x) I can compare these bibs with the original cleaned up records from BSLW and get a list of changed fields. (I’ve done a sample file this am) 4. This solution actually works to scan fields by hand for changes. 5. However, with MARC Compare the records have to be in order or everything falls apart. (Plus if you have a ton-o-records, this can prove time consuming). - Solution? So my proposed solution is to write a custom PERL script to take original bibs and edited bibs, extract them down and compare headings in each of the two files, sending output out (via TCN’s) of those bibs whose headings fields have changed (such as the 100's, 400's, 600's, 700-740's as examples). Once I have the TCN’s, it would be easy to dump these out of the system for cleanup by BSLW. - My question is: Has this been done before? (I don’t want to reinvent the wheel). Is there a better way that someone else has come up with to do this? I’ve been digging around http://perldoc.perl.org/File/Compare.html this am as well as http://marcpm.sourceforge.net/tutorial.pdf, and https://metacpan.org/pod/MARC::Record and I think this would be do-able. I’m certainly not a developer, but have written perl scripts in the past….so this would be fun to try. Any thoughts? --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Authority Control Questions-Maybe a Solution?
Hi all, Rogan, Appreciate the update….but not being a developer or SQL person, I was a little lost after the second sentence. ☺ If something like this would get done, do you think this could be part of the documentation, etc? --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19 From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Rogan Hamby Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:49 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Authority Control Questions-Maybe a Solution? Hi Tony, I've never done this but as I hope SCLENDS moves to authorities in the not too distant future I'm interested in this topic a lot. If I remember correctly when a MARC record gets updated the old metabib.real_full_rec entries get deleted and new ones are entered. I would be tempted to create a conditional auditor trigger that only write entries for the headings fields so that it's not a huge auditor table. I've not done that but some quick googling showed up examples of it. It would be a fun experiment if nothing else. Then it would be easy to write a sql report to get distinct records from those whose inserted IDs (current metabib) are different from the audited ones and then export just those records. On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 1:04 PM, Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org wrote: Hello all, At COOL, we’ve recently started authority control with BSLW. We have had our entire DB cleaned up and are getting ready to start the quarterly updates. In this, we will be sending them new bibs that have been added to the system for headings cleanup. However, we are also considering sending edited bibs as well. This would be bib records that were authorized and cleaned up, but have since been overlaid or updated. The biggest issue we are having is how to do this. While the edit date in the bib is a starting point, we really only want to send bibs whose headings have changed, not other values in the record. The question is: How? We’ve looked at the auditing tables as a starting point, but am thinking there might be a better solution: - Initial thoughts: 1.Using PGAdmin, we can extract a list of TCN’s that have been modified (edited) since our last full DB dump. 2. Using this list, extract bibs in MARC format from the system. 3. Using MARC Compare (found in Marc Edit 6.x) I can compare these bibs with the original cleaned up records from BSLW and get a list of changed fields. (I’ve done a sample file this am) 4. This solution actually works to scan fields by hand for changes. 5. However, with MARC Compare the records have to be in order or everything falls apart. (Plus if you have a ton-o-records, this can prove time consuming). - Solution? So my proposed solution is to write a custom PERL script to take original bibs and edited bibs, extract them down and compare headings in each of the two files, sending output out (via TCN’s) of those bibs whose headings fields have changed (such as the 100's, 400's, 600's, 700-740's as examples). Once I have the TCN’s, it would be easy to dump these out of the system for cleanup by BSLW. - My question is: Has this been done before? (I don’t want to reinvent the wheel). Is there a better way that someone else has come up with to do this? I’ve been digging around http://perldoc.perl.org/File/Compare.html this am as well as http://marcpm.sourceforge.net/tutorial.pdf, and https://metacpan.org/pod/MARC::Record and I think this would be do-able. I’m certainly not a developer, but have written perl scripts in the past….so this would be fun to try. Any thoughts? --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074tel:614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19tel:614-486-2966%20x19 -- Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, York County Library System “You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me.” ― C.S. Lewishttp://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Authority Control Questions-Maybe a Solution?
Hello all, At COOL, we've recently started authority control with BSLW. We have had our entire DB cleaned up and are getting ready to start the quarterly updates. In this, we will be sending them new bibs that have been added to the system for headings cleanup. However, we are also considering sending edited bibs as well. This would be bib records that were authorized and cleaned up, but have since been overlaid or updated. The biggest issue we are having is how to do this. While the edit date in the bib is a starting point, we really only want to send bibs whose headings have changed, not other values in the record. The question is: How? We've looked at the auditing tables as a starting point, but am thinking there might be a better solution: - Initial thoughts: 1.Using PGAdmin, we can extract a list of TCN's that have been modified (edited) since our last full DB dump. 2. Using this list, extract bibs in MARC format from the system. 3. Using MARC Compare (found in Marc Edit 6.x) I can compare these bibs with the original cleaned up records from BSLW and get a list of changed fields. (I've done a sample file this am) 4. This solution actually works to scan fields by hand for changes. 5. However, with MARC Compare the records have to be in order or everything falls apart. (Plus if you have a ton-o-records, this can prove time consuming). - Solution? So my proposed solution is to write a custom PERL script to take original bibs and edited bibs, extract them down and compare headings in each of the two files, sending output out (via TCN's) of those bibs whose headings fields have changed (such as the 100's, 400's, 600's, 700-740's as examples). Once I have the TCN's, it would be easy to dump these out of the system for cleanup by BSLW. - My question is: Has this been done before? (I don't want to reinvent the wheel). Is there a better way that someone else has come up with to do this? I've been digging around http://perldoc.perl.org/File/Compare.html this am as well as http://marcpm.sourceforge.net/tutorial.pdf, and https://metacpan.org/pod/MARC::Record and I think this would be do-able. I'm certainly not a developer, but have written perl scripts in the pastso this would be fun to try. Any thoughts? --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Z39.50 Index Field Maps and the Local Catalog--can you help?
Hi all, Hope the conference is going well? I was wondering if anyone on the list can help me with a Z39.50 Index Field Maps and searching the local catalog question. If so, thanks! --- Here's the scenario: Library A has a new DVD that they would like to add to their catalog. Using the Z39.50 portion of the current 2.7.X staff client, is there a way to search the local catalog for any existing bibs before the library decides to bring in a new bib record? I would think they could select the drop-down to say visual materials, choose their local catalog and bring up by title, author, etc. etc. a list of bibs. This way they could choose to overlay or just attach an item. Is this logic right? Would a better choice be to choose the TPAC instead of the Z39.50 portion of the staff client perhaps? --- Part 2: Given the Index Field Mapping Options on the Evergreen system, does that relate in any way to the scenario above? I'm trying to logic my way through this. The documentation (see: http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.8/_z39_50_search_enhancements.html) helps in a generic sense, but I'm not sure how this relates to searching your own local catalog for visual materials. --- Thanks in advance for any assistance you can provide... --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Authority records-bib linking PERL script question
Hello everyone, Just wanted to query the group to see if anyone knows specifics on how the authority_authority_linker.pl script actually works. We've run this on our system with the recent authority control job and we're finding a few inconsistencies in how the authority control record ID gets attached to various fields in the bib, in particular the existence of a $e in the author 100 field. I've been looking in the documentation this am, but can't really find any specifics on this script. Do you have links you can share? Thanks in advance for your help! --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Edit date in bib records--can you help?
Hello everyone, Much like some other folks in the community, we've recently exported our DB out for authority work and have just finished reloading it and a brand new set of authority records. We've also subscribed to an ongoing quarterly process to keep everything up to date. - I was wondering if anyone had a process to determine which records to send out on a quarterly basis. I know we can use the create_date for new bibs, but how do you determine what pre-existing bibs to resend back for authority control, for example bibs that have been overlaid by a Z39.50 record that has been brought in through the system? There's the edit_date field, but I wasn't sure if that would be the most accurate method. Any thoughts you can share will be most appreciated! --Tony PS: If there is a link somewhere that I may have missed in researching this, feel free to send that as well! Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen logo--Thank you!
Morning everyone! Thank you so much for the logo locations and images! This will come in handy--I appreciate it! --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19 -Original Message- From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Galen Charlton Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 5:08 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen logo Hi, On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org wrote: What I was wondering is if the Evergreen logo (as noted here: http://demo.evergreencatalog.com/opac/images/main_logo.png) is open source? We’re find that on our catalog, we have a white version of the logo, but not a green one. Rather than recolor pixel by pixel, I would like to use one that’s already green or barring that, is there a collection of Evergreen logos that are stashed somewhere? (I could do a regular image search and find tons of them, but not sure if these are open-sourced). The logo in SVG (scalar vector graphics) format can be downloaded from http://evergreen-ils.org/logos/Evergreen_logo.svg This version of the logo uses the green color for the text, which I gather is what you're seeking. If you don't already have an image editor at hand that can handle SVG, I recommend using Inkscape. One of the nice things about the SVG format is that you can expand the image to make it as large as you need to. However, to amplify what Chris mentioned, I should also mention the Evergreen logo is a trademark of the Evergreen project, and that trademark is held on behalf of the project by the Software Freedom Conservancy. There are conditions for using the logo that must be adhered to as part of helping to protect the trademark. The current draft of the policy for using the trademark can be found at http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=contrib/governance.git;a=blob;f=evergreen-trademark-policy.txt;h=eb046ba62ed0ed94bb217ddac1956c00502b06d9;hb=9eb15d1bec0625b3f540f7fa022e1e2a720f0a09 While this remains a draft policy -- and something that's been on my TODO list for entirely too long to work with the EOB to finalize -- I should mention that the policy's guidelines for using the logo prohibit changing its color scheme (with the exception of changing it to black and white) or making other significant modifications to the image. Regards, Galen -- Galen Charlton Infrastructure and Added Services Manager Equinox Software, Inc. / The Open Source Experts email: g...@esilibrary.com direct: +1 770-709-5581 cell: +1 404-984-4366 skype: gmcharlt web:http://www.esilibrary.com/ Supporting Koha and Evergreen: http://koha-community.org http://evergreen-ils.org
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen logo
Hello everyone, I *think* this has been discussed on the list before, but for some reason I cannot seem to find the discussion thread at this point. What I was wondering is if the Evergreen logo (as noted here: http://demo.evergreencatalog.com/opac/images/main_logo.png) is open source? We're find that on our catalog, we have a white version of the logo, but not a green one. Rather than recolor pixel by pixel, I would like to use one that's already green or barring that, is there a collection of Evergreen logos that are stashed somewhere? (I could do a regular image search and find tons of them, but not sure if these are open-sourced). Does anyone have a logo we might reuse? Thanks in advance for your help! --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] My Lists author display...Can you help?
Hi all, Was working on some TPAC edits for our 2.7.X version of Evergreen today, and I've come across something I can't quite seem to find any information on. Maybe you can help? -- In the My Lists part of the TPAC, when our patrons save items to their lists, the author is quite often displayed as this: Clancy, Tom, 1947-2013, author However, we just want the display to show this: Clancy, Tom, 1947-2013 Or maybe even this: Clancy, Tom -- I've been looking at the lists.tt2 file to see if I can round up any details, but the closest I've come to is attrs.author, which really doesn't help. I've also been looking at: * http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.7/_my_lists.html * http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.3/_designing_your_catalog.html But I can't seem to turn anything up on customizing the display Any thoughts you can share on this will be most appreciated--Thanks in advance for your help! --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-484-1074 (Direct) 614-486-2966 x19
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] obj.data.has.aous ???
Hello everyone, Has anyone ever encountered this when starting up the staff client: -- obj.data.hash.aous is undefined (please contact your system administrator) -- I did find a link here, http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/evergreen/2013-12-17, but I think the conversation was just about a general error. Could this error be related to network connectivity? Any thoughts-thanks in advance for your help! --Tony
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Question about best practices....
Morning everyone, Thanks so much for your responses and information! I'm still holding out that sprint 2 may have some surprises in this area! --Tony From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Tony Bandy Sent: Monday, February 23, 2015 5:46 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Question about best practices snip
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Question about best practices....
Hello everyone, This group has been very helpful with all of my questions, so if I may, just throw one out there to get folks opinions, best practices, etc., I would be grateful! In the case of our consortium, several time our catalogers need to update 2-3k records at a time, usually to alter a fixed field in the copy record. I know that we can upload a list of barcodes via the staff client and then put them into a copy bucket to do batch edits. Realistically however, at least in cases I've tried, we're finding out that this doesn't really work too well, except in small numbers of records. What does everyone do if you need to update thousands of records at time? Is this something that is being considered for the web client, now that sprint 2 is the next target? I do realize that it's possible to jump down via the console and do things via SQL, but given the skill set needed to run operations like that, not too practical to expect catalogers and other library staff to have the time and knowledge to do this. Any workarounds, etc. that you may have come up with would be appreciated!!! --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] About Evergreen OPAC for Mobile Devices
Morning Dan, folks, Thanks so much—and I apologize for all the bother. But I have learned a lot about running EG on mobile devices and I appreciate everyone’s help! --Tony From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Dan Scott Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 9:21 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] About Evergreen OPAC for Mobile Devices On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org wrote: Hi Dan, folks, Thanks for the note! Currently we’re running 2.7.2 of Evergreen. I know we have been working with the CSS to adjust colors, and the table for checked out items for this particular library, but I wasn’t sure if that would affect the whole display? I have been using Quirk Tools Screenfly (http://quirktools.com/screenfly/) for testing parts of our TPAC. The mobile catalog, searching, viewing results, etc. all look pretty good, however, when a user logs in to their account for this particular library and goes to look at their checked out items, the formatting gets a little “squashed”. I just added this information on to the LP bug you had opened previously about mobile development. I’ve attached a screenshot that shows this. Anything above 600px looks ok (Other Example). The screenshot (Example One) is from an iPhone 5s running Safari. Do you think it’s just a matter of us tweaking the code for this library a bit too much? Yes, I'm sure that's the case. Check out the webby test server (which is running pretty close to stock TPAC code); connection info is at http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:webclient. Currently there are two items checked out to the admin user and there is no horizontal scrolling or squished display occurring using the Quirk Tools Screenfly with iPhone 3/4, iPhone 5, Galaxy S2, or even the Blackberry 8300. Maybe I could roll the changes back and then re-apply piece by piece to make sure it’s not something else? It seems likely that the id acct_checked_main_header might have been removed, or the structure of table#acct_checked_main_header td was somehow disrupted; that would throw off the stock mobile CSS. In general, this is a good reminder to check problems against a stock version of Evergreen to ensure it's not a local issue before reporting them as a bug (I need that reminder myself from time to time!) Dan
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] About Evergreen OPAC for Mobile Devices
Hi Ben, Kathy, Suzanne, folks, This helps quite a bit! I will go ahead and file a bug report and then see if we can hack something together! I’m not a developer but if I come up with something, I will add it to the bug report. I just wasn’t sure how other folks were approaching this…. Really appreciate it! Thanks, --Tony From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Ben Shum Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 12:30 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] About Evergreen OPAC for Mobile Devices Kathy also reminded me that we do have multiple media query already. One kicks in at 600px, but also one at 800px. So there's a lot of ground to cover here. -- Ben Sent from my Nexus 6 On Feb 12, 2015 9:23 AM, Kathy Lussier kluss...@masslnc.orgmailto:kluss...@masslnc.org wrote: Good information Ben! Tony, I also don't think it's a bad idea to file a LP bug on this issue in case somebody can look at it before a hackfest happens. Also, if you follow up on Ben's suggestion and adjust your own CSS so that it works better, that change is something you could submit on the bug. Kathy On 02/12/2015 12:15 PM, Ben Shum wrote: Hi Tony, So admittedly, the first work done in this area, we had to select a resolution to begin writing mobile view for and it was 600px (you can see this in the style.css.tt2 file). So if you're viewing at 615 px, it will not kick in the mobile view version, of course. At 600 or less, it will kick in the mobile CSS. Long-term, I do believe that we need work to enhance the catalog to support multiple viewing resolutions. And there is Dan Scott's filed bug to deal with designing with mobile in mind first (https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1413730). Not sure where that's headed yet, but keeping more mobile views than just smartphones seems like a good thing to do. In the meantime, you can adjust when mobile kicks in (what if you wanted it at 650 px?) by changing the CSS file for TPAC. Or you can help start creating a good middle sized CSS for view on slightly larger environments, like tablets. Continuing work on mobile responsiveness was a project idea during OPW last time (http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=opw#project_ideas) and I can see it being a good project for a future Hackfest session or Hack-A-Way too. -- Ben On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org wrote: Hi Kathy, folks, Thanks much for the note! -- For the most part, the general TPAC looks pretty decent when viewed on a mobile device, but we’re noticing that when logging in to check your personal account, the display is a little wide—the user has to scroll to the right to view the entire box. Also, once logged in, and this is the biggest issue we’ve seen, the lists of items that are checked out are all, for the lack of a better term, “all squashed together”…. J J when you get below a certain pixel count on the screen, say around 615px. I’m not sure if this list accepts attachments, but I’ve attached a simulation of what it looks like. Maybe this is just us? I just wasn’t sure what approach other folks were working on and if anyone had encountered this before…. Thanks again for any thoughts as you have time….I can open a bug if everyone thinks this might be the way to go…. --Tony From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.orgmailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Lussier Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 11:24 AM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.orgmailto:open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] About Evergreen OPAC for Mobile Devices Hi Tony, There is an existing bug with the My Lists area of the catalog - https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1353509. What are the specific issues you've experienced? Kathy On 02/12/2015 11:19 AM, Tony Bandy wrote: Hi all, Just to follow-up a bit with the conversation from earlier this week, has anyone else experienced any issues with the My Account portion of the TPAC on mobile devices? I was going to file a bug report, but wanted to check-in first and see if anyone had experienced these issues and had a workaround, update, etc. Any thoughts on this would be super…. --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19tel:614-486-2966%20x19 From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.orgmailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Lussier Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 2:29 PM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.orgmailto:open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] About Evergreen OPAC for Mobile Devices Development was done for Evergreen release 2.6
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] About Evergreen OPAC for Mobile Devices
Hi all, Just to follow-up a bit with the conversation from earlier this week, has anyone else experienced any issues with the My Account portion of the TPAC on mobile devices? I was going to file a bug report, but wanted to check-in first and see if anyone had experienced these issues and had a workaround, update, etc. Any thoughts on this would be super --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19 From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Lussier Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 2:29 PM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] About Evergreen OPAC for Mobile Devices Development was done for Evergreen release 2.6 to bring the catalog into better compliance with WCAG 2.0. Work was also done for Evergreen 2.5 to make most catalog interfaces more responsive, optimizing the display of mobile devices. There may have been some interfaces that we missed, but if there is any screen that isn't displaying well on a mobile device, I recommend filing a bug in Launchpad at https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen to let the developers know. There's a nice blog post about the project at http://evergreen-ils.org/hackaway13-mobile-catalog/. I hope this helps! Kathy On 02/10/2015 01:55 PM, rita@statcan.gc.camailto:rita@statcan.gc.ca wrote: Good afternoon, Just wondering is there any development for Evergreen OPAC optimizing websites and applications for mobile devices? Will it meet the technical specifications for the Web and mobile presence, ensure that each device-based mobile application meets all five WCAG 2.0 conformance requirements? For the purposes of this standard, requirements of applying to Web pages equally applying to device-based mobile applications screens, such as Web Experience Toolkit (WET4)? Thanks, Rita Liu Library Services | Services bibliothèque R.H. Coats Building | Immeuble R.-H.-Coats / Floor | Étage 2 R Statistics Canada | 100 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Statistique Canada | 100, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 rita@statcan.gc.camailto:rita@statcan.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone 613-850-6587 Facsimile | Télécopieur 613-951-0939 Cellular | Cellulaire 613-850-6587 Government of Canada | Gouvernement du Canada -- Kathy Lussier Project Coordinator Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative (508) 343-0128 kluss...@masslnc.orgmailto:kluss...@masslnc.org Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] About Evergreen OPAC for Mobile Devices
Hi Kathy, folks, Thanks much for the note! -- For the most part, the general TPAC looks pretty decent when viewed on a mobile device, but we're noticing that when logging in to check your personal account, the display is a little wide-the user has to scroll to the right to view the entire box. Also, once logged in, and this is the biggest issue we've seen, the lists of items that are checked out are all, for the lack of a better term, all squashed together :) :) when you get below a certain pixel count on the screen, say around 615px. I'm not sure if this list accepts attachments, but I've attached a simulation of what it looks like. Maybe this is just us? I just wasn't sure what approach other folks were working on and if anyone had encountered this before Thanks again for any thoughts as you have timeI can open a bug if everyone thinks this might be the way to go --Tony From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Lussier Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 11:24 AM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] About Evergreen OPAC for Mobile Devices Hi Tony, There is an existing bug with the My Lists area of the catalog - https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1353509. What are the specific issues you've experienced? Kathy On 02/12/2015 11:19 AM, Tony Bandy wrote: Hi all, Just to follow-up a bit with the conversation from earlier this week, has anyone else experienced any issues with the My Account portion of the TPAC on mobile devices? I was going to file a bug report, but wanted to check-in first and see if anyone had experienced these issues and had a workaround, update, etc. Any thoughts on this would be super --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19 From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Lussier Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 2:29 PM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.orgmailto:open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] About Evergreen OPAC for Mobile Devices Development was done for Evergreen release 2.6 to bring the catalog into better compliance with WCAG 2.0. Work was also done for Evergreen 2.5 to make most catalog interfaces more responsive, optimizing the display of mobile devices. There may have been some interfaces that we missed, but if there is any screen that isn't displaying well on a mobile device, I recommend filing a bug in Launchpad at https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen to let the developers know. There's a nice blog post about the project at http://evergreen-ils.org/hackaway13-mobile-catalog/. I hope this helps! Kathy On 02/10/2015 01:55 PM, rita@statcan.gc.camailto:rita@statcan.gc.ca wrote: Good afternoon, Just wondering is there any development for Evergreen OPAC optimizing websites and applications for mobile devices? Will it meet the technical specifications for the Web and mobile presence, ensure that each device-based mobile application meets all five WCAG 2.0 conformance requirements? For the purposes of this standard, requirements of applying to Web pages equally applying to device-based mobile applications screens, such as Web Experience Toolkit (WET4)? Thanks, Rita Liu Library Services | Services bibliothèque R.H. Coats Building | Immeuble R.-H.-Coats / Floor | Étage 2 R Statistics Canada | 100 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 Statistique Canada | 100, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 rita@statcan.gc.camailto:rita@statcan.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone 613-850-6587 Facsimile | Télécopieur 613-951-0939 Cellular | Cellulaire 613-850-6587 Government of Canada | Gouvernement du Canada -- Kathy Lussier Project Coordinator Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative (508) 343-0128 kluss...@masslnc.orgmailto:kluss...@masslnc.org Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier -- Kathy Lussier Project Coordinator Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative (508) 343-0128 kluss...@masslnc.orgmailto:kluss...@masslnc.org Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] TPAC and Due Date
Hi Scott, folks, No expert here, but we are in a consortium with multiple libraries and if your EG installation is like ours, each library has a custom set of TT2 files. If this one listed below is not present in the library that does not wish to display the due dates, you can copy the default one into their directory and make the needed customizationsat least that's how we've done it before --Tony -Original Message- From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Scott Thomas Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 8:57 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] TPAC and Due Date Hi Galen, Thank you for replying. We are in a consortium and other members may not want to hide the due date. My assumption is that OPAC templates can be customized for each individual library in a consortium. Is this assumption correct? I am new to EG and still trying to figure out how all of this fits together. I really appreciate it. Scott -Original Message- From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Galen Charlton Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 8:49 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] TPAC and Due Date Hi, On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Scott Thomas sc...@albright.org wrote: Is there any way to prevent the Due Date from displaying in the TPAC? We turned it off in our old ILS because some patrons would get upset if a book they wanted was grossly overdue. If there is no way to prevent it from displaying, is there a way to make long overdue items not be OPAC Visible? Yes, that's a simple TPAC template customization. I'm assuming that you're referring to the due date column on the item list on the record details page; if so, one could override the opac/parts/record/copy_table.tt2 template and comment out or remove the following lines: th scope='col'[% l(Due Date) %]/th and td[% copy_info.due_date | html %]/td and td[% IF copy_info.due_date; date.format( ctx.parse_datetime(copy_info.due_date), DATE_FORMAT ); ELSE; '-'; END %]/td One could also use CSS to hide that column. Regards, Galen -- Galen Charlton Manager of Implementation Equinox Software, Inc. / The Open Source Experts email: g...@esilibrary.com direct: +1 770-709-5581 cell: +1 404-984-4366 skype: gmcharlt web:http://www.esilibrary.com/ Supporting Koha and Evergreen: http://koha-community.org http://evergreen-ils.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] [Evergreen-admin] misc_util.tt2 and our 508 tag...
Morning everyone, Thank you so much for the information and updates--especially with the file searching! I'm going to go in and start whacking away at the files today! Wish me luck! --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19 -Original Message- From: evergreen-admin-boun...@list.evergreen-ils.org [mailto:evergreen-admin-boun...@list.evergreen-ils.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Hovey Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 6:26 AM To: Lazar, Alexey Vladimirovich; Evergreen Discussion Group; evergreen-ad...@list.evergreen-ils.org Subject: Re: [Evergreen-admin] [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] misc_util.tt2 and our 508 tag... If you unix box has it installed (many do by default), locate is faster locate .tt2 -Original Message- From: evergreen-admin-boun...@list.evergreen-ils.org [mailto:evergreen-admin-boun...@list.evergreen-ils.org] On Behalf Of Lazar, Alexey Vladimirovich Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 5:31 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group; evergreen-ad...@list.evergreen-ils.org Subject: Re: [Evergreen-admin] [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] misc_util.tt2 and our 508 tag... On 2014-07-24, at 14:57 , Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org wrote: OK...that helps! I was flying around the file system opening up various *.tt2 files looking for info! Hello, Tony. When fishing for strings in pile of files, the find command can be handy. Something like: /openils/var$ find ./ -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep '508' The first couple of results in my case were: ./templates/opac/parts/record/authors.tt2:xpath = '//*[@tag=508]' ./templates/opac/parts/record/contents.tt2:xpath = '//*[@tag=508]' Although, be ready to cancel the command with Ctrl+C, in case it gets to a reports output or logs folder. At the risk of driving you (and everyone else crazy) if I open up the authors.tt2 file...can I just remove the offending lines? Yes, but probably safest not to experiment on a live system. Also, if you are not using this approach already, consider using a separate folder for your locally customized template files. Otherwise they would get overwritten by the next upgrade. Having a separate directory for customized files would also let you more easily keep track of differences and cross-merge with template files from newer versions. Aleksey Lazar IS Developer and Integrator - PALS http://www.mnpals.org/ ___ Evergreen-admin mailing list evergreen-ad...@list.evergreen-ils.org http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-admin The Buffalo Erie County Public Library System has more than 2.6 million materials available for borrowing including books, eBooks, DVDs, music and more. Free library card applications can be downloaded and taken to any of the 37- local public libraries for processing. A valid form of identification and proof of address is necessary. For more information call 716-858-8900 or visit www.BuffaloLib.org . ___ Evergreen-admin mailing list evergreen-ad...@list.evergreen-ils.org http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-admin
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] misc_util.tt2 and our 508 tag...
Hi Kathy, OK...that helps! I was flying around the file system opening up various *.tt2 files looking for info! :) At the risk of driving you (and everyone else crazy) if I open up the authors.tt2 file...can I just remove the offending lines? Just curious Thanks again for any thoughts on this... --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19 From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Lussier Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 3:52 PM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] misc_util.tt2 and our 508 tag... Hi Tony, Currently, that 508 information is coming from record/authors.tt2. I hope this helps! Kathy Kathy Lussier Project Coordinator Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative (508) 343-0128 kluss...@masslnc.orgmailto:kluss...@masslnc.org Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier On 7/24/2014 3:14 PM, Tony Bandy wrote: Hello everyone, (If this should be on the EG developers list, please advise. I was unsure which list to send to) - Our consortium is wanting to move the MARC 508 tag down on our tpac display. As of right now, it's located directly under the title on our catalog coming in with a CAST designation (See TCN # 576841 at cool-cat.org as an example). If I look in the misc_util.tt2 file I see no specific code build for the 508 tag as related in the documentation here: http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.4/_designing_your_catalog.html#_adding_and_removing_marc_fields_from_the_record_details_display_page) Should I build out a new definition that explicitly names the 508 tag in the misc_util.tt2 file...would that approach work? If so, how do I remove the stock mapping of the 508 field? Thanks in advance for your help! --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Triggered Events Bug #1207533
Hi all, Maybe I should route this to the dev. list.but just curious if anyone knows about movement on this bug for Triggered Events: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1207533 I see on the Bugs list that this is only listed as affecting the 2.4.X and 2.5.X serieshas this been noted in the 2.7.X builds yet? We really used this feature in 2.3.X and was wondering about it. Thanks for any updates as you have time --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Simple self check
Hi Michele, folks, I apologize for not responding sooner on this, and please pardon any duplication with my responses below. We were also having issues similar to you in that receipts wouldn't work as they should. We're (COOL, cool-cat.org) are running a bit earlier version than you (2.4.2), but here's what we did to get things working: -- 1. Copied the default selfcheck templates from the openils directory to the custom templates folder for the library. 2. Made sure the initial connection was at https. (See https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1047485) 3. In notification/action triggers, copied the default self-check receipts (4 of them) to custom templates for our library. I also looked at https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/793627 and removed the hours from the template from div to div and removed the hours notation from the head of the template as a precaution ([%- SET hours = lib.hours_of_operation -%]). 4. Things seemed to work a bit better, but we were still encountering problems with receipts with browsers other than Chrome. I tested in Windows 7, 8, and Mavericks the following browsers: Internet Explorer 11 Latest version of Firefox (can't keep track of their versions--too many to keep up with) Latest version of Chrome Latest version of Safari 5. Using the Chrome 'inspect element' option on the self-check interface, I also noticed on our system some 404 errors about missing JS scripts. This may or may not be relevant, but is something I noticed. 6. Finally, working with ESI, we upgraded our version of OpenSRF. This last point seemed to really help. -- After all these steps, our self-check seems to be working good at this point in Chrome and Firefox. IE support continues to be an issue, but looking through earlier threads, the interface was originally designed with Firefox, etc. in mind...I know developing for IE can be troublesome. Ben Shum also helped me track down some errors, but if you search the mailing lists (maybe you've done this already), they were helpful to me as well. I also am looking at Ben and Buzzy's discussion here as well: http://list.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-general/2014-January/009481.html. Hope all this helps a bit! --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19 -Original Message- From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Michele Morgan Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 5:01 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Simple self check We are wondering how many libraries are using the simple self check web interface built into Evergreen as documented here: http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.5/_self_checkout.html One of the problems we are having is printing receipts reliably. In Firefox, receipts print sometimes, but other times they do not print and leave a progress bar hanging on the screen. We have also experimented with running self check in NetKiosk, but have not been able to print receipts at all there. What sort of experiences have others had using the Simple Self Check? Any advice or recommendations for getting receipts to print reliably is welcome. -- Michele Morgan, Technical Assistant North of Boston Library Exchange, Danvers Massachusetts mmor...@noblenet.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Authority control vendors?
Morning, Thank you everyone for your thoughts on authority control vendors and your experience. This helps us in our decision making process as well! Appreciate it! --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19 From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Mary Llewellyn Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 5:09 PM To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group' Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Authority control vendors? We’ve been happy with Backstage as well. We used them with our old system and are gearing up to have them do RDA conversion and authority control now that we’re in Evergreen. Mary Mary Llewellyn Database Manager Bibliomation, Inc. 24 Wooster Ave. Waterbury, CT 06708 mllew...@biblio.org From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Andrea Buntz Neiman Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 3:06 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Authority control vendors? I used Backstage a few years ago for an authorities cleanup, I can confirm that they do good work -- I was very pleased with their results thoroughness. They've done several other Evergreen systems so they're comfortable with its ins-and-outs. Andrea Buntz Neiman, MLS Librarian II, Public Services Kent County Public Library 408 High Street Chestertown, MD 21620 410-778-3636 x2115 www.kentcountylibrary.orghttp://www.kentcountylibrary.org On 5/14/2014 1:42 PM, Rogan Hamby wrote: I've not personally used them but I've asked this question at the conference several times since I'd like to do the same thing with SCLENDS and I've always heard good things about Backstage from others that have used them. On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org wrote: Hello everyone, Our consortium is looking to examine our DB in light of authority control, both to clean our current records as well as ongoing services. Does anyone have any experiences with different authority control vendors they might want to share? Thanks in advance for your help! --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19tel:614-486-2966%20x19 -- Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, York County Library System “You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.” ― Ray Bradburyhttps://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1630.Ray_Bradbury “You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me.” ― C.S. Lewishttp://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Authority control vendors?
Hello everyone, Our consortium is looking to examine our DB in light of authority control, both to clean our current records as well as ongoing services. Does anyone have any experiences with different authority control vendors they might want to share? Thanks in advance for your help! --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Previously placed holds...and system options...any ideas?
Hello everyone, Recently I've been troubleshooting some holds questions for some of the libraries in our consortium and ran across something I'm not quite sure about. Does anyone know if Is there a way to view fulfilled holds on a title or holds that a patron had previously placed-like a holds history? Also, as a follow-up: Is it possible to place a hold on a book that's on order? I saw this on the list: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.education.libraries.open-ils.general/8830/match=holds+order It mentioned: ...We can, of course, just turn on the setting so that patrons can place holds on 'On Order' items. Does anyone know where in the system options this is? Thanks in advance for any help or thoughts you can provide. --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Items not checking in?
Hi Buzzy, folks, We’ve experienced this a bit in our consortium as well and can’t seem to really track down a persistent identifying cause….best luck we have had has been with adjusting barcode scanners and telling staff to slow down on scanning things. Not real scientific, but seems to help… -Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19 From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Buzzy Nielsen Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 1:02 PM To: Evergreen general listserv Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Items not checking in? Hi folks, We have libraries in our consortium that are claiming that Evergreen is not properly checking in items, i.e. that they're scanning the items for check in but the system isn't taking the item off the patron's account. We're running 2.5.1. Personally, I'm pretty sure we've got PEBKAC going on. At our local library, we've implemented work flow improvements and the problem has pretty much disappeared. Still, I thought I'd ask: have any of you experienced this issue? Cheers! Buzzy *** Library Director Hood River County Library District 502 State St Hood River, OR, 97031 541-387-7062 http://hoodriverlibrary.org
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Z39.50 errors (timing out?)
Hi everyone, Just wanted to check-in with the list and see if anyone else has ever seen any inconsistent Z39.50 network errors on their Evergreen clients when attempting to import records? I've seen a few messages on the list from around 2010, but nothing really new. We're running 2.4.2 and some of our libraries are reporting in with these network errors. There's really no consistent pattern that we've been able to discern here. Usually a workaround that's been having fairly good success for us so far is to uncheck all of the remote Z39.50 servers and then re-add them one at a time (instead of initially selecting the entire group up front). Any ideas would be most appreciated! --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.orgmailto:to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Permission to Register Patron and Edit Patron
Morning Jayaraj, I'm no expert, but have you gone into the Admin--User Permission Editor for the accounts in question? Sometimes, depending upon whether you have a single library or consortium, you might have to adjust the depth of the permissions. Sometimes, in cases like this, I've actually opened up two windows side by side, and scanned the permissions...it can be time consuming, but can help track down permission errors. Hope this helps a bit... --Tony On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 6:37 AM, Jayaraj JR jaya...@iisertvm.ac.in wrote: Hello, We are using Evergreen 2.3.7 on Ubuntu 10.04. Currently, Only the Administrator only can Register Patron, Edit Patron Account Details. We would like to know, how we can assign this permission to other staff in the Circulation Section We have assigned Create User and Edit User permissions to the Circulation Staff. But they are unable to either Register or Edit the Patron. Kindly help us resolve the problem -- Thanking You Jayaraj J R Library Information Assistant IISER Thiruvananthapuram -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Stat Cats (Viewing in OPAC)
Hi all, Looking for wisdom from the group if you have a moment or two. - Looking at the stat cat editor in the staff client, I see a field for OPAC visibility. However, I can't seem to find where or how this is implemented in the TPAC. Any ideas or leads or links you can share will be super. Thanks, --Tony -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] 2.4.X and Public copy notes config
Hi everyone, I'm sure this is somewhere right in front of me...but needing some quick help on the display of public copy notes in the new 2.4.X version of Evergreen. I saw where Ben mentioned: TPAC - Add config option to turn on/off public copy notes Note, public copy notes continues to be shipped on by default. This option is intended to allow for quick enabling/disabling of all public copy notes in the catalog... Does anyone know where this option is, to turn off or on? Can this be done on a per-library basis in the consortial setting? Thanks much for any help or links you can provide. The release notes mention this, but I can't find any other documentation that talks about this. I've also checked the org unit settings in the staff client and didn't see anything --Tony -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Help finding the opt-in for patron circulation history
Hi Deana, I'm no expert, but on our system, if the patron logs on via the OPAC, it shows up in their account settings: Keep history of checked out items? Keep history of holds? Hope this helps ---Tony On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Deana Cunningham deana.cunning...@granvillecounty.org wrote: Hi all, Some of our patrons would love Evergreen to keep their circulation history automatically with out the need to put items in a bookbag. I know Evergreen is capable of this as I turned it on in the library setting editor, but I can't seem to find the page in the documentation that tells us how to make that available to patrons. Thanks - again! Deana Cunningham Branch Manager, South Branch Library 1550 S. Campus Dr. Creedmoor, NC 27522 Phone: (919) 528-1752 Fax: (919) 528-1376 deana.cunning...@granvillecounty.org -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Adding MARC fields to TPAC display (template variables)
Hi all, Just fishing for some help this afternoon. Perhaps this should have gone to the developers list. If so, I apologize in advance. We're looking to enhance the MARC display in our TPAC (2.3.6) with the addition of some MARC fields. While I did find this, http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.3/_designing_your_catalog.html#_configuring_and_customizing_the_public_interface, in the documentation, I'm having some mental issues figuring out what this documentation actually means on a practical basis. For example, the documentations says that if I want to add a MARC 260 field I should do this: --- ...to map the template variable *args.pubdates* to the date of publication MARC field 260, subfield c, add these lines to *misc_util.tt2*:... args.pubdates = []; FOR sub IN xml.findnodes('//*[@tag=260]/*[@code=c]'); args.pubdates.push(sub.textContent); END; args.pubdate = (args.pubdates.size) ? args.pubdates.0 : '' You will then need to edit the * /openils/var/templates/opac/parts/record/summary.tt2* file in order to get the template variable for the MARC field to display. For example, to display the date of publication code you created in the * misc_util.tt2* file, add these lines: [% IF attrs.pubdate; %] span itemprop=datePublished[% attrs.pubdate | html; %]/span [% END; %] --- That's understandable to me somewhat, but what if I wanted to add other MARC fields besides the 260? What if I wanted to add a 5XX field or something else? What template variable should I use? What exactly is a template variable? Is there a list of template variables somewhere that I haven't found? Is this a table name somewhere in the DB that I'm overlooking? What position (or where does it go) in this file? I apologize if this is an easy question, but being a regular librarian and not a developer, these terms are still somewhat cryptic to me. If anyone has examples or sites that could demonstrate with a template variables for dummies approach, I would be forever in your debt! Thanks, Tony -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] MARC templates to share?
Hi all, We've been working on adding some MARC templates to our system and saw the link mentioned here in the documentation, http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.1/html/catalogingtemplates.html. Does anyone have any MARC templates they can share with us just to help us get started? Thanks in advance for your help! --Tony -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] MARC templates to share?
Hi Rogan, folks, Could they live on the open-ils.org site somewhere? Maybe this has been discussed before and I just missed itif there was space on the server, that would be super --Tony On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Rogan Hamby rogan.ha...@yclibrary.netwrote: I'd love to see a place to host these and document them on the community site. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org wrote: Hi all, We've been working on adding some MARC templates to our system and saw the link mentioned here in the documentation, http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.1/html/catalogingtemplates.html. Does anyone have any MARC templates they can share with us just to help us get started? Thanks in advance for your help! --Tony -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19 -- Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, York County Library System You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me. -- C.S. Lewis http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] MARC templates to share?
Thanks Dan, I saw the Conifer link that was mentioned here, http://www.open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen-admin:customization:cat, but it gave me a 404 and the page never loaded.I will head on over to the git.evergreen-ils.org site and take a look at those. Rogan, I agree, if this part of the site could be expanded that would be superif only I was a cataloger! :) Appreciate the help everyone! --Tony On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Dan Scott d...@coffeecode.net wrote: On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org wrote: Hi all, We've been working on adding some MARC templates to our system and saw the link mentioned here in the documentation, http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.1/html/catalogingtemplates.html. Does anyone have any MARC templates they can share with us just to help us get started? I trot out the Conifer MARC templates branch every time this question comes up: The branch is at http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=contrib/Conifer.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/feature/marctemplates_2_4but then you have to drill down to the Open-ILS/src/templates/marc directory to see the actual templates; currently, you can jump directly to that directory in that branch via http://goo.gl/VHEKj Of course, these are all specialized for various Conifer libraries, but they should be a reasonable start... -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] MARC templates to share?
Thank you everyone--this is super and gives us some traction to get started on adding these to our system. Bill, yours looked great, and I was able to access them! --Tony On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Dan Scott d...@coffeecode.net wrote: On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org wrote: Thanks Dan, I saw the Conifer link that was mentioned here, http://www.open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen-admin:customization:cat, but it gave me a 404 and the page never loaded.I will head on over to the git.evergreen-ils.org site and take a look at those. Wasn't aware of that page. It was still pointing at the Subversion repository, which is long dead. I've updated http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen-admin:customization:catto point at the Conifer git repo as well as at MVLC's repo. Maybe that will help people who stumble across that wiki page in the future. -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] standalone transaction files
Hi Deana, I'm no expert, but wondering if this post from Jason might help: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.education.libraries.open-ils.general/6540/match=pending_xacts Aaron posted something along these same lines as well: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.education.libraries.open-ils.general/6845/match=pending_xacts --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19 On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Deana Cunningham deana.cunning...@granvillecounty.org wrote: Hello, After a month and a half of running on the standalone, we are getting close to going live with Evergreen. Our IT folks were wondering if there was a way to keep copies of the standalone transaction files so that if we run into any horrible issues during the processing we could roll back to an earlier backup of the database and try again. I have looked through the available documentation and haven't found anything that specifies where these files are stored on each individual workstation. Any ideas for me? Thanks! Deana Cunningham Branch Manager, South Branch Library 1550 S. Campus Dr. Creedmoor, NC 27522 Phone: (919) 528-1752 Fax: (919) 528-1376 deana.cunning...@granvillecounty.org
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Marc Exports (just double-checking something...)
Hi all, Doing some MARC exports today and given the bug in the exports ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/2.4/+bug/1175816) ended up just going back to 2.1.2 and exporting MARC using those tools. Does anyone know if by going back a few versions with this if any functionality is lost? The latest documentation I found on exports also dated from 2.1.2. Thanks for any thoughts as you have a moment or two Tony -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Updated SMS gateway?
Hi all, Please pardon any duplication, but does anyone know of an updated SMS gateway for TracFone? We're using the wikipedia list here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_SMS_gateways, but the one for TracFone keeps bouncing Thanks in advance for any thoughts or updates Tony -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] No Matchpoint error on checkout 2.3.5
Hi Geoff, Have you checked your Circulation Policy Configuration table to make sure there's a line in the table for items transiting from another branch? That's what is sounds like to me.at first glance --Tony Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19 On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Geoff Sams gs...@roanoketexas.com wrote: I’m in the process of getting a library up and running in our system. They are in the system with policies in place and patrons being added and have recently received some transit items from other libraries to checkout to their patrons. ** ** The only problem is that when they do check the item out, they receive the error “no matchpoint” and nothing else. It appears that their own items checkout just fine, but outside items are the only ones throwing this exception. Can anyone point me in the right direction for troubleshooting this? ** ** Thanks, Geoff Sams Roanoke Public Library 817-491-2691 **
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] No Matchpoint error on checkout 2.3.5
Have you checked your circ. weights? When we first went live on Evergreen, that was causing us problems to begin with http://www.open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen-admin:customization:indb-circ Just a thought or two Tony On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Tina Ji (Project Sitka) t...@sitka.bclibraries.ca wrote: The other strange thing on circ policy I noticed was when I set the permission group to Users (our highest level user group) the policy did not work (no match point). But after I changed it to a lower level (Public Library Users) it worked. So it might worth a try to put something in Org Unit. Quoting Geoff Sams gs...@roanoketexas.com: That's what is really strange here, all of our policies are open ended. Library X at library blank, for all users. Only for very specific details do we set that specific of a rule. There are a set of rules for each libraries that have been working at all locations until this most recent addition. Tina Ji 1-888-848-9250 Trainer/Help Desk Specialist BC Libraries Cooperative/Sitka -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] SMS and item Triggered Event Logs
Hi all, Has anyone ever worked with the item-specific Triggered Event Log to track down SMS hold notification errors? If this is not a good method, do you have an alternative that works for you or your library? We're working on SMS events in the consortium and trying to put together a specific procedures/error document. Thanks in advance for your help! Tony -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] SMS (Texting call numbers)
Hi all, We're investigating the SMS functionality but curious as to the possiblity of altering the location and size of the texting option next to the call number, perhaps moving it around a bit. In looking at the html code, it seems the only difference is the insertion of the a href link. Does anybody have any links to documentation of the template toolkit on how to alter this? Thanks in advance for your thoughts as you have time. I've searched Gmane, and the documentation, but didn't come across too much. Tony -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Removal of time on checkout receipt--any thoughts?
Hi all, Does anyone know if there is a way to *remove* the time due on checkout receipts? This link, http://article.gmane.org/gmane.education.libraries.open-ils.general/4150/match=due_date+receipt, seems to indicate this is so, but given that the template editor on our system currently only shows %due_date%, not quite sure how to go forward. If I adjust the system settings, as indicated does this have broader implications elsewhere? Any links or thoughts you can share will be most appreciated... --Tony -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Removal of time on checkout receipt--any thoughts?
Hi everyone, Bill, Robert, This is awesomeworks great! Thank you so much! Is there a way to put this in the official documentation? --Tony On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Bill Ott b...@grpl.org wrote: On 04/15/2013 03:04 PM, Tony Bandy wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know if there is a way to *remove* the time due on checkout receipts? snip -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] What software do you use for Evergreen training?
Hi all, Here in our consortium, we've used Join.me (www.join.me) with pretty good success as well as Google Hangouts for group training. Join.me is great for one on one training as well as remote desktop support. Google Hangouts is a great alternative to more traditional webinar-type software, but can be limiting as far as participants Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19 On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Elizabeth Thomsen e...@noblenet.org wrote: The Trainers Interest Group had a lively meeting at the Evergreen Conference this morning, and one of the things we discussed was the various programs we use for training. This includes online meeting/training/webinar systems, software for screencasting and more. But we want to share with everyone, not just the group who was in the room this morning, so we thought we'd take ask everyone. Please share what you use, tell us anything about how you use it or why you chose a particular program, and any problems or limitations you've encountered with it. If there's interest, we'll organize this and post a list, but for now, let's start talking about it! Thanks! -- Elizabeth Thomsen, Member Services Manager NOBLE: North of Boston Library Exchange 26 Cherry Hill Drive Danvers Massachusetts 01923 E-mail: e...@noblenet.org
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Grace Period Override VS Recurring Fine Rule grace_period
Hi everyone, Been working with one of our libraries to modify grace periods for materials and I've come across a question I can't seem to find anything on. Do you have a minute for your thoughts? Is there any major distinction between designating the grace period in the Grace Period Override section vs the grace_period found in the Recurring Fine Rule? Pro or Con? They both seem to accomplish the same thing, but wanted to make sure before I changed too many settings Thanks in advance for your help! Tony -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Best method of removing items from bibs?
Hi Elaine, folks, Good catchI'm heading over to our org unit settings to confirm this option Appreciate it! Tony On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Hardy, Elaine eha...@georgialibraries.orgwrote: Remember to uncheck the trim list box before you import your list. ** ** And as Sarah said, breaking the list into a few hundred makes it much more manageable. ** ** Once you delete the barcodes from the records, depending on your settings, the bib records will likely be deleted. In order to get them to display in the catalog, you will have to undelete them. It might be best to change your library setting not to delete records that have the last item/vol attached before you delete the items then change it back when you are finished. ** ** *Elaine* -- J. Elaine Hardy PINES Bibliographic Projects Metadata Manager Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Ste 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 snip -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Best method of removing items from bibs?
Hi all, Was wondering if I could post this out to the group for ideas? Working with a massive list of electronic resource bib records that are needing some mistakenly added item records removed from them. I've been able to create a list of item barcodes in the reports module. Is there a way I can mass add these items via a copy bucket so that I can delete them all at once from my list of bib records? Oris there a faster (better, cheaper, etc.) method of mass deleting item records from the bibliographic records that I'm not aware of? This involves electronic resource records, which don't need any attached item records. PSQL operation maybe that you have used before? Thanks for any links, thoughts, your experience on this as you have a minute or two Tony -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Best method of removing items from bibs?
Hi Sarah, folks, That's awesome...I was so focused on using the bucket approach, that I neglected to think of that part of the staff-client. Thank you so much! --Tony On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Sarah Childs sar...@zionsville.lib.in.uswrote: Hi, Tony. From the staff client side you can import barcodes into the item status screen to delete them using the Upload from File button. If all your report has is the barcodes you can save the excel file and import it straight into Item Status. (If the report has other fields, strip them from the file) However, I'd recommend breaking them into smaller chunks (100-200 or so) at a time. I just copy and paste groups from my report into a notepad file. Then you click the Upload from File, select your file and the items load. Highlight them and delete the whole group. It's a pretty quick and easy process. But I bet there would be a better way from the back end if it's a truly massive group. Somebody else will have to direct you there. --- Sarah Childs Senior Cataloger Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library 250 North Fifth Street Zionsville, IN 46077 317-873-3149 x13330 sar...@zionsville.lib.in.us Message: 2 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 14:52:46 -0400 From: Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Best method of removing items from bibs? To: Evergreen Discussion Group open-ils-general@list.**georgialibraries.orgopen-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Message-ID: CAEKwE4V7Wn1ddDkW1F87hCp6G+**425sxpWEG7r2aW=kNRVHEJtA@mail.** gmail.com knrvhe...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi all, Was wondering if I could post this out to the group for ideas? Working with a massive list of electronic resource bib records that are needing some mistakenly added item records removed from them. I've been able to create a list of item barcodes in the reports module. Is there a way I can mass add these items via a copy bucket so that I can delete them all at once from my list of bib records? Oris there a faster (better, cheaper, etc.) method of mass deleting item records from the bibliographic records that I'm not aware of? This involves electronic resource records, which don't need any attached item records. PSQL operation maybe that you have used before? Thanks for any links, thoughts, your experience on this as you have a minute or two Tony -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://libmail.**georgialibraries.org/**pipermail/open-ils-general/** attachments/20130326/e77dc3f6/**attachment-0001.htmhttp://libmail.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-general/attachments/20130326/e77dc3f6/attachment-0001.htm -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Customization of table.tt2 for display of partial 245 field in opac
Hi all, Just wanted to query the list (pardon any duplication) to see if anyone would have any programming links, information on the TPAC table.tt2 file, particularly for customizing the display in the OPAC. We've turned on the option to display the entire 245 field to help pick up large print titles, but wondering if anyone has customized things to only pick up certain subfields... Thanks for any thoughts as you have time Tony -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Customization of table.tt2 for display of partial 245 field in opac
Hi Michael, folks, Thanks so much for the update--I'll get started looking at this right away. Tony On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Michael Schell msch...@forterie.library.on.ca wrote: Hi Tony, In the /templates/opac/parts/misc_util.tt2 file there is a section that refers to 245 tags (around line 36), the line ('//*[@tag=245]/*[@code=a or @code=b or @code=n or @code=p]') is the one to add or subtract subfields to. Michael Schell Systems Administrator Fort Erie Public Library 905-871-2546 x301 msch...@fepl.ca www.fepl.ca -open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org wrote: - To: Evergreen Discussion Group open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org From: Tony Bandy Sent by: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org Date: 03/21/2013 02:45PM Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Customization of table.tt2 for display of partial 245 field in opac Hi all, Just wanted to query the list (pardon any duplication) to see if anyone would have any programming links, information on the TPAC table.tt2 file, particularly for customizing the display in the OPAC. We've turned on the option to display the entire 245 field to help pick up large print titles, but wondering if anyone has customized things to only pick up certain subfields... Thanks for any thoughts as you have time Tony -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19 -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] SMS setup for consortium--all at once?
Morning everyone, Thanks so much for the information and thoughts. I agree, I think we will just make this available for everyone as it seems to be the best method of doing things... Appreciate it! Tony On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Aaron Zsembery azsemb...@pls-net.orgwrote: On 7 March 2013 at 4:14:15 PM Alexey Vladimirovich Lazar alexey.la...@mnsu.edu wrote: Unless the SMS settings are tied to patron's home library/branch, perhaps, where if a user has SMS enabled at their home library, they would get an SMS option even if checking out material from a different library/branch that has SMS disabled for their own patrons. Our limited testing (turning it on for one library when we meant to turn it on for the whole system) showed that the SMS settings tie to EITHER your home library (if logged in) or your current search library (if not logged in). In our testing, if your home library has SMS turned on, you place a hold from there (requesting SMS notification) and the checkout library has SMS turned off, you will get a SMS notification. The SMS yes/no is set on the hold record, as such, if the SMS Hold Notification Action Trigger is turned on but SMS is completely off in settings, staff can edit the hold (from the staff client) to add the phone number/carrier and it WILL generate a hold notification (or at least it did in our test environment). Not sure how hairy this would be to actually implement or how useful having the option to configure this setting per-library/branch would be, in terms of number of libraries who would use the option. I would just turn it on for everyone. If a library doesn't want to use it, they don't have to fill it in and if the patrons want it, they can enter that at the time of placing a hold. Aaron Z Jr. Systems Administrator Pioneer Library System 2557 State Rt. 21 Canandaigua, New York 14424 Phone: (585) 394-8260 -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] SMS setup for consortium--all at once?
Hi all, Please pardon any duplication but trying to figure out if the Evergreen SMS setup can be done on a per library basis in a consortium? I realize the system options can be set this way in the library settings editor, but when we did this, every library in the consortium had the SMS option, not just the one that was asking. Looking at this post (https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/884254), I'm thinking that maybe editing the TPAC on a per-library basis would enable us to only have this for the libraries that need this? Also note that from the post above, I did find this: Also, it's probably best to have just one sms.enable for the whole consortium. If you mix and match on/off settings here, then user preferences for SMS can get blown away if the user updates their settings in the TT-OPAC at an org where SMS is disabled. I'm not quite sure the best way to interpret that so thanks up front for your thoughts, links, help.. Tony -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] SMS setup for consortium--all at once?
Hi all, Kathy, This helps quite a bit...I do appreciate it! I'll talk with the libraries in the consortium and see what direction they want to take. I'll also take a look at our TPAC pages and see we can work on things from that angle. Thanks again! Tony On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Kathy Lussier kluss...@masslnc.org wrote: Hi Tony, MassLNC sponsored this development, and my recollection from discussions during the development project was that it's best to enable/disable it for the entire consortium. See also the following from the description in the OU setting: Unless you are carefully silo-ing patrons and their use of the OPAC, the context org for this setting should be the top org in the org hierarchy, otherwise patrons can trample their user settings when jumping between orgs. However, if you have a different tpac template for the library that wants SMS, maybe you can hide the SMS options in the template for your other libraries? Off the top of my head, I'm thinking there are three places where you would need to hide SMS: the record page where you have the option to text the call number, the place hold page, and the myopac notification preferences page. Just a thought, but it's not something I've tested so I don't know how well it would work. Kathy Kathy Lussier Project Coordinator Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative(508) 343-0128kluss...@masslnc.org Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier On 3/7/2013 12:34 PM, Tony Bandy wrote: Hi all, Please pardon any duplication but trying to figure out if the Evergreen SMS setup can be done on a per library basis in a consortium? I realize the system options can be set this way in the library settings editor, but when we did this, every library in the consortium had the SMS option, not just the one that was asking. Looking at this post (https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/884254), I'm thinking that maybe editing the TPAC on a per-library basis would enable us to only have this for the libraries that need this? Also note that from the post above, I did find this: Also, it's probably best to have just one sms.enable for the whole consortium. If you mix and match on/off settings here, then user preferences for SMS can get blown away if the user updates their settings in the TT-OPAC at an org where SMS is disabled. I'm not quite sure the best way to interpret that so thanks up front for your thoughts, links, help.. Tony -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19 -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Browsing authorities
Hi all, Just wanted to ask something about the JPAC vs TPAC. Is it possible to do an authority browse in the TPAC yet? I found the link here, http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.3/_opac_searching_of_authorities.html, yesterday and was curious as to its implementation in the new opac. Any ideas? Does anyone have this implemented in your TPAC if it is possible? Links would be super if you could share. Thanks in advance for your thoughts Tony -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Browsing authorities
Hi Lebbeous, Having this on the way will be a great thing for the patrons--Appreciate the update! Tony On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Lebbeous Fogle-Weekley lebbe...@esilibrary.com wrote: Hi Tony, Not yet, but something similar is coming. See here: http://blog.esilibrary.com/2013/02/18/930/ Sadly, I was given the chance myself to vet that, and still it didn't occur to me that the blog post doesn't mention TPAC. Gross simplification: this coming feature will provide a combination bib browser and authority browser, for authorities that are in use (i.e. that have actual bibs linked to them). So it's different than the JSPAC authority browser, but for many use cases, better. Hope this helps, Lebbeous On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to ask something about the JPAC vs TPAC. Is it possible to do an authority browse in the TPAC yet? I found the link here, http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.3/_opac_searching_of_authorities.html, yesterday and was curious as to its implementation in the new opac. Any ideas? Does anyone have this implemented in your TPAC if it is possible? Links would be super if you could share. Thanks in advance for your thoughts Tony -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19 -- Lebbeous Fogle-Weekley | Software Developer | Equinox Software, Inc. / The Open Source Experts | phone: 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) | email: lebbe...@esilibrary.com | web: http://www.esilibrary.com -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] South Eastern Evergreen Interest
Hi all, Rogan, Can't speak for my organization or our libraries, but from a personal standpoint, this would be nicelots of libraries budgets are stretched pretty thin, and having it close would definitely help. On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Rogan Hamby rogan.ha...@yclibrary.netwrote: A while back someone (I think Wolf from Lyrasis but not sure) asked about a regional conference here in the south east. I replied that there wasn't one but anything is possible. What I didn't say is that I've always wanted to have one and tossed the idea around with colleagues quite a bit. Frankly, the lead up to the conference in Vancouver has gotten me thinking about it again. I've heard from a lot of folks that they would love to go but they can't travel far, etc... Now, I don't want to create a false impression - I heard this to some degree with Indiana and Michigan as well but it is more dramatic with us being on the opposite coast for this one. But, that's bound to happen with a conference that floats around. Still, we have a lot of systems that would love to have an event that was regional and possible to send people to without much hardship. There are lots of folks that can't go to any conference unless it is very close. This would be small scale even, probably a half day on a Friday and full day on a Saturday, so day and a half. It would be put on very cheap so as to be accessible by small libraries that could not normally send people. It would be in as central a location as possible to potential participants and at a cheap hotel. As it is we have Georgia and South Carolina well established with Evergreen consortiums. I think Georgia already has some internal events for staff but I don't know to what scale or nature. However, we also have an effort North Carolina that is growing and one in Virginia that is in progress. So there is a potential population for a series of roundtables and seminars to provide information, networking and a chance for community engagement. So, that is my thinking. My question is, and I will follow this up with direct mails to some parties, is there interest? -- Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, York County Library System You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me. -- C.S. Lewis http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Cloning Trigger Event Definitions vs Creating new ones
Thanks Alekseythis does help quite a bit. With Evergreen, I'm never quite sure whether to clone or adjust the actual working definition. Appreciate it! Tony On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Lazar, Alexey Vladimirovich alexey.la...@mnsu.edu wrote: Hi, Tony. Personally, I like to retain a copy of a known working configuration (of any kind) to be able to revert to it in case a new one fails. That was what I did when working with A/T definitions, even after extensive testing on a development server prior to deploying to live. Aleksey On 2013-02-15, at 13:12 , Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org wrote: Hi all, I was working with one of our libraries today and they want to modify the number of days before their notices go out. In our system,I can directly modify the existing trigger event definitions or I can clone them, thereby inactivating the old ones and creating the new ones. Are there any best practices sort of things to this that you would recommend? Normally, I would just go in and alter the existing ones, but not quite sure if this is the recommended course of action. Thanks for any thoughts as you get time Tony -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19 Aleksey Lazar PALS IS Developer and Integrator 507-389-2907 http://www.pals.org/ alexey.la...@mnsu.edu -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Mass patron record deletes--via staff client?
Morning folks, Rogan, Appreciate the update...SQL is probably what we will do--I just wanted to make sure I wasn't overlooking any avenues before I did that. Thanks! Tony On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Rogan Hamby rogan.ha...@yclibrary.netwrote: Personally, a thousand records I would do via SQL. and looking at my 2.3 version that we're upgrading too I may be confusing requested development with recently added feature. I know I talked to someone about patron buckets but I don't see it anywhere in staff client. So, if you're doing batches SQL might be the only quick way to do it even for moderate sized batches. On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org wrote: Hi Rogan, folks, Thanks for the note. Let's assume the library has around 1000 patron records that they no longer neededdoing a annual cleanup for example. I was wondering if something like this was do-able via the staff client. Would that fit in a bucket or would it be faster, better, cheaper, etc., to just ssh in via the console and do things that way. I'm trying to see what libraries can do on their own vs. a central site admin. having to do it for them. Our current version, I believe, is 2.3.2thanks for any ideas on this as you have time Tony On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Rogan Hamby rogan.ha...@yclibrary.netwrote: When you say mass do you mean something that could fit in a bucket or ... massively mass? And what version are you on? On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org wrote: Hi all, Please pardon if this is out there somewhere, but not sure where to go with this one. One of our libraries wants to mass delete some patron recordsis there anyway to do this via the staff client yet? Thanks for any updates as you have time Tony -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19 -- Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, York County Library System You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me. -- C.S. Lewis http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19 -- Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, York County Library System You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me. -- C.S. Lewis http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Mass patron record deletes--via staff client?
Hi all, Please pardon if this is out there somewhere, but not sure where to go with this one. One of our libraries wants to mass delete some patron recordsis there anyway to do this via the staff client yet? Thanks for any updates as you have time Tony -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Mass patron record deletes--via staff client?
Hi Rogan, folks, Thanks for the note. Let's assume the library has around 1000 patron records that they no longer neededdoing a annual cleanup for example. I was wondering if something like this was do-able via the staff client. Would that fit in a bucket or would it be faster, better, cheaper, etc., to just ssh in via the console and do things that way. I'm trying to see what libraries can do on their own vs. a central site admin. having to do it for them. Our current version, I believe, is 2.3.2thanks for any ideas on this as you have time Tony On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Rogan Hamby rogan.ha...@yclibrary.netwrote: When you say mass do you mean something that could fit in a bucket or ... massively mass? And what version are you on? On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org wrote: Hi all, Please pardon if this is out there somewhere, but not sure where to go with this one. One of our libraries wants to mass delete some patron recordsis there anyway to do this via the staff client yet? Thanks for any updates as you have time Tony -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19 -- Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services, York County Library System You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit me. -- C.S. Lewis http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1069006.C_S_Lewis -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Quick question about pre-cats and patron's web login
Hi all, Please pardon any duplication or if this is the wrong list, but just wanting to verify something if you can help. On pre-cat items, these, since they are not attached to bib records, will show up blank when patrons check their accounts via the web catalog. Is there a work-around for this or system option I may have missed? Thanks for any help you can provide Tony -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Quick question about pre-cats and patron's web login
Thanks LebbeousI appreciate it! Just wanting to make sure I had not overlooked anything... Tony On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Lebbeous Fogle-Weekley lebbe...@esilibrary.com wrote: Hi Tony, I haven't checked yet, and I'm just going on memory of TPAC development, but it's likely that this is a missing feature in the TPAC. If so, it shouldn't be a particularly difficult thing for somebody to implement. A bug on Evergreen's Launchpad page is probably appropriate. Set the importance field to 'wishlist' (which sounds dismissive, but isn't meant that way; it just means you're asking for functionality not yet present, as opposed to a fix for a bug in existing code). Lebbeous On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org wrote: Hi all, Please pardon any duplication or if this is the wrong list, but just wanting to verify something if you can help. On pre-cat items, these, since they are not attached to bib records, will show up blank when patrons check their accounts via the web catalog. Is there a work-around for this or system option I may have missed? Thanks for any help you can provide Tony -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19 -- Lebbeous Fogle-Weekley | Software Developer | Equinox Software, Inc. / The Open Source Experts | phone: 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) | email: lebbe...@esilibrary.com | web: http://www.esilibrary.com -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Spine label printing
Hi all, Just wanted to chime in with: http://www.branchdistrictlibrary.org/professional/labels/. I still need to upload this on our server, as we are testing the best methods for labels as well. Anybody use this on a consistent basis? It looks neat! Tony On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Hardy, Elaine eha...@georgialibraries.orgwrote: Sara, ** ** Unless things have changed with the most recent version, you can’t do this in Evergreen. I have experimented using MSWORD’s Mail Merge and MS Access and have not successful created a doc for printing spine and pocket labels for a laser printer. Someone else may have and hopefully they will share.* *** ** ** You can use mail merge in MS word to set up a doc for laser printing just spine labels. I do have the instructions for those and will send if you would like to see them. ** ** *Elaine* -- J. Elaine Hardy PINES Bibliographic Projects Metadata Manager Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Ste 150 Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304 404.235-7128 404.235-7201, fax eha...@georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org www.georgialibraries.org/pines *From:* open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *J. Sara Paulk *Sent:* Monday, January 07, 2013 11:59 AM *To:* open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org *Subject:* [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Spine label printing ** ** If someone could contact me off list - need assistance in setting up spine label and pocket labels using a laser printer and multiple rows across in a Windows Vista environment. I.E. if you already have a stepsheet for sharing – thanks! ** ** ** ** J. Sara Paulk, Regional Director Wythe-Grayson Regional Library ** ** ** ** === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 9.1.0.2900, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.20940) http://www.pctools.comhttp://www.pctools.com/?cclick=EmailFooterClean_51 === -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Updating patron expiration dates??
Hi Dan, folks, Appreciate the update--and I apologize for the delay in getting back to you. That turned out to be the crux of the problem--we needed to add the group_application level of permissions. Once that was done, we were good to go. Thanks! Tony On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Dan Scott d...@coffeecode.net wrote: On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 01:02:12PM -0500, Tony Bandy wrote: Hi all, Does group membership affect the editing abilities of an account on Evergreen? For example, one of the local sys admins at our libraries is attempting to go in and update their staff accounts expiration dates. For some accounts this can be done, but for other accounts, the option is grayed out and no edits can be done. Does the local sys admin have the permissions to create and edit the particular profiles to which the problematic staff belong? For example, just grabbing a few entries returned from the following SQL query: SELECT code FROM permission.perm_list WHERE code ~ 'group_application'; group_application.user.staff.acq group_application.user.staff.circ group_application.user.staff.admin.local_admin If you don't have the staff.circ permission, then you won't have the ability to create, remove, or edit user accounts that have a profile of Circulator. These are permissions that you should be able to grant to users through the normal user permission editor interface, or directly in the database if you prefer that. -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Updating patron expiration dates??
Hi all, Does group membership affect the editing abilities of an account on Evergreen? For example, one of the local sys admins at our libraries is attempting to go in and update their staff accounts expiration dates. For some accounts this can be done, but for other accounts, the option is grayed out and no edits can be done. My only thoughts on this are that the accounts not able to be updated are part of a different user group on the system. Is this line of thinking correct? I'm not sure it's a permission issue given the parameters above, but just in case, I have previously given the following additional permissions and no changes were observed in editing capabilities: update_user update_record update_patron_primary_card update_patron_active_card Thanks for any thoughts or helps or links you can provide. I didn't see too much traffic on this on the lists. Perhaps this might be one of those events where direct database access is needed? Tony -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Exporting bib records--quick question
Thanks Jason--not yet, but I'm on the page now reading! Appreciate it! Tony On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Jason Stephenson jstephen...@mvlc.orgwrote: http://git.mvlcstaff.org/?p=**jason/backstage.git;a=summaryhttp://git.mvlcstaff.org/?p=jason/backstage.git;a=summary -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] records export--just a thought or two if you are exporting
Hi all, This may be old hat to most, but in understanding the record export process for Evergreen this am, I was able to take the query located here, http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.1/html/exportingbibrecordsintoMARC.html, and modify it and do my troubleshooting in pgAdmin 3. If you are new to psql like I was, the ability to take this query and test, etc. in pgAdmin was a lifesaver. Just an FYI Tony -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] TPAC 2.3 Advanced Search Filters--any thoughts?
Hi all, Working with some of our libraries on the 2.3 TPAC this afternoon, they wanted to change some of the labels included in the lists under Literary Form, Audience, and Item Type. However, I'm not quite sure where to go to do that. So far, I've searched the following: -- http://www.open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=dev:opac:template-toolkit#the_code --http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.3/_tpac_url.html --http://template-toolkit.org/docs/index.html Right now, I'm digging into config.tt2, where is mentions the following: Define the advanced search limiters and labels. # adv_label is the (translated) label for the limiter # adv_attr is an array of possible limiters, the first one that has any # values will be used # adv_filter is the same as adv_attr, but for search filter groups # adv_break will end the current row. If specified with a label/attr it # will do so *after* that limiter. # adv_special will drop in a special entry: # lib_selector will put the search library box (with limit to available) # pub_year will put the publication year box # sort_selector will put the sort results selector search.adv_config = [ {adv_label = l(Item Type), adv_attr = [mattype, item_type]}, {adv_label = l(Item Form), adv_attr = item_form}, {adv_label = l(Language), adv_attr = item_lang}, But I'm not seeing anything for the Search Filters option...would that be the adv_filter? Should I just enter some strings similar to the search.adv_config lines above? If you have any links or information on how to do this, I would be eternally grateful. Tony -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] circs.tt2 files
Thanks Dan, Jason, This does help, and given the growth of Evergreen, being able to account for other screen implementations, etc., make a lot of sense. I just wanted to make sure I was understanding things correctly. I'll have to look at git as well--with multiple libraries, this would be helpful, rather than filling up my home directories with old versions! Appreciate it! Tony On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Jason Stephenson jstephen...@mvlc.orgwrote: On 12/01/2012 12:35 AM, Dan Scott wrote: The git commit log is generally helpful when you want to trace changes and the associated rationale for changes. I'd like to add that if you are not using git to manage your customizations of the OPAC templates, then you should be. It will make your life so much easier. (That's aimed at everyone, not just Tony.) -- Jason Stephenson Assistant Director for Technology Services Merrimack Valley Library Consortium Chief Bug Wrangler, Evergreen ILS -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Apostrophe and Title Searches (still an issue?)
Hi all, After upgrading to 2.3, we're noticing the apostrophe issue when doing title searching in the catalog. Specifically, when using the apostrophe, titles never get found. I know this has been an issue in the past ( http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-general/2011-July/005227.html), but didn't know if I should apply the fix mentioned or if there's been new developments that I've missed. Any ideas? Please pardon questions about an old topic or if I've missed a solution somewhere Tony -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Apostrophe and Title Searches (still an issue?)
Hi Dan, folks, So sorry...I should have been more detailed. Using TPAC on 2.3.1, and hostname http://mountgilead.cool-cat.org, performing a title search for: Reader's Digest. Under this method, I get zero hits, even though Reader's Digest is returned in the autocomplete box as I type the title. If I perform the same search without the apostrophe, I get good hits. Trying this same search on our training server with the same version of Evergreen (2.3.1) I get the same response. - To test, I've done the exact same search at King County Public Library ( http://catalog.kcls.org/eg/opac/home) and the demo server ( http://demo.ils.edoceo.com/sap/sunshine) and have not received the error. I also tried on the Equinox Demo server, but not sure if they had the title as I got zero hits each time. - Here's a sample of one of the MARC records that carry the title Reader's Digest: 020. ‡a0895773538040 .‡aDLC ‡cDLC ‡dDLC 05000. ‡aT47 ‡b.H725 1990 08200.‡a 600 ‡220 1001. ‡aReader's Digest.2450 0.‡aHow in the World? Thanks for any updates as you have time Tony On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Dan Scott d...@coffeecode.net wrote: On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:53:05PM -0500, Tony Bandy wrote: Hi all, After upgrading to 2.3, we're noticing the apostrophe issue when doing title searching in the catalog. Specifically, when using the apostrophe, titles never get found. Hi Tony: Please provide more details. What is the title in question? Where is the MARC record for it? What search are you trying to use to retrieve the record? Are you using JSPAC or TPAC? Can you reproduce the problem using a clean install of a supported release? Thanks, Dan -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Apostrophe and Title Searches (still an issue?)
Hi Ben, folks, So basically, we need to force our system to reindex our bib records...and to do this, we would reingest our records? (Sorry, still grappling with understanding what all that means and entails...) Does this mean a physical dump and reloading of the records or is there a command we can give to force the system to do this with the records in place? (I apologize, but some parts of this is still really new to me) Tony On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Ben Shum bs...@biblio.org wrote: Hi Tony, Ian's experience with reingesting bib records is exactly what we ended up doing during our upgrade to 2.2 too. We weren't as selective, since we ended up adding new metabib indexes which required us to reingest all of our bib records anyways. I think what happened was that in the 2.1-2.2 upgrade something changed with the way that the title index was created, but only a portion of bibs were reindexed (for different reasons). Updating the bibs to force a reingest is definitely what I would suggest to fix the issues you're seeing. -- Ben On 11/20/2012 01:45 PM, Ian Bays wrote: We found that after upgrade from 2.1 to 2.2 the existing titles did not behave with apostrophes for title or keyword searching. We observed that newly catalogued or edited titles did search OK with or without apostrophes. So we investigated and found out that by just touching some of the metabib records that caused them to be re-indexed. such as: update metabib.title_field_entry set source = source where source in (select record from asset.call_number where owning_lib in (select id from actor.org_unit where parent_ou in (select id from actor.org_unit where shortname = 'AB' OR shortname = 'CD'))) and value like '%''%'; and update metabib.keyword_field_entry set source = source where source in ... We chose to only update those with apostrophes in the value field. This was to do it for bibs used in systems 'AB' and 'CD' It did the job quite nicely. I figured we must have missed something in the upgrade so just put it down to experience. Not sure if there's a neater way of touching groups of records for re-indexing if ever needed. Good luck. Ian On 20/11/2012 18:23, Tony Bandy wrote: Hi Dan, folks, So sorry...I should have been more detailed. Using TPAC on 2.3.1, and hostname http://mountgilead.cool-cat.org, performing a title search for: Reader's Digest. Under this method, I get zero hits, even though Reader's Digest is returned in the autocomplete box as I type the title. If I perform the same search without the apostrophe, I get good hits. Trying this same search on our training server with the same version of Evergreen (2.3.1) I get the same response. - To test, I've done the exact same search at King County Public Library ( http://catalog.kcls.org/eg/opac/home) and the demo server ( http://demo.ils.edoceo.com/sap/sunshine) and have not received the error. I also tried on the Equinox Demo server, but not sure if they had the title as I got zero hits each time. - Here's a sample of one of the MARC records that carry the title Reader's Digest: 020 . ‡a0895773538 040 . ‡aDLC ‡cDLC ‡dDLC 050 0 0. ‡aT47 ‡b.H725 1990 082 0 0. ‡a600 ‡220 100 1 . ‡aReader's Digest. 245 0 0. ‡aHow in the World? Thanks for any updates as you have time Tony On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Dan Scott d...@coffeecode.net wrote: On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:53:05PM -0500, Tony Bandy wrote: Hi all, After upgrading to 2.3, we're noticing the apostrophe issue when doing title searching in the catalog. Specifically, when using the apostrophe, titles never get found. Hi Tony: Please provide more details. What is the title in question? Where is the MARC record for it? What search are you trying to use to retrieve the record? Are you using JSPAC or TPAC? Can you reproduce the problem using a clean install of a supported release? Thanks, Dan -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19 -- Ian Bays Director of Projects, PTFS Europe Limited Content Management and Library Solutions+44 (0) 800 756 6803 (phone)+44 (0) 7774 995297 (mobile)+44 (0) 800 756 6384 (fax) skype: ian.bays email: ian.b...@ptfs-europe.com -- Benjamin Shum Open Source Software Coordinator Bibliomation, Inc. 32 Crest Road Middlebury, CT 06762203-577-4070, ext. 113 -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] 2.3 colors.tt2 and CSS
Hi all, I apologize in advance if this is the wrong list or it's been discussed already, but given 2.3 and the colors.tt2, is there a similar option for the regular stylesheet CSS? Can each library have their own version of the stylesheet? Reason I'm asking is that given some of the colors are hard-coded in the sheet, with multiple libraries, not quite sure how to override this other than make new directives in each colors.tt2. Thanks in advance for your thoughts if you have a moment...I'm still learning! -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] 2.3 colors.tt2 and CSS
Hi Dan, folks, That's it--I just wasn't quite sure how to explain it! :) How does one implement this for each? Is there an Apache config that I could use to point each library to a different style.css.tt2? I did a temporary fix yesterday by replacing a hard coded color in style.css.tt2 with a new option (directive?) which I then added to the colors.tt2 for a specific library, but this gets really messy really fast, especially if I have to do this for many libraries... Thanks again Tony On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Dan Scott d...@coffeecode.net wrote: On Wed, Nov 07, 2012 at 02:38:08PM -0500, Tony Bandy wrote: Hi all, I apologize in advance if this is the wrong list or it's been discussed already, but given 2.3 and the colors.tt2, is there a similar option for the regular stylesheet CSS? Can each library have their own version of the stylesheet? Reason I'm asking is that given some of the colors are hard-coded in the sheet, with multiple libraries, not quite sure how to override this other than make new directives in each colors.tt2. I might not be understanding your question correctly, but Open-ILS/src/templates/opac/css/style.css.tt2 is itself a template that you could override at multiple levels (e.g. add one layer of customization across the consortium, and then another layer at each system, and then another layer at each branch). I know some people (hey bshum!) have expressed a want / need to break the colors out more granularly, if there's some common ground that we could find and merge to Evergreen core, that would probably help sites with their customization efforts. If I'm misunderstanding, then some concrete examples would probably help move the conversation along :) -- Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 614-486-2966 x19
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Table colors on new TPAC?
Hi all, Please forgive any duplication, but have been working on our newly installed 2.3 TPAC this morning. Fairly new to all of this, but two questions: 1. Altering table cell colors from gray to another color. 2. Positioning of the top page and results to centered (like King County has theirs). I've found the colors.tt2 file, but that doesn't seem to alter the cell colors in the results. I'm sure there's something I'm missing here. Does anyone have any pointers for me? Thank you in advance Tony *** Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 1-800-686-8975 x19
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Client software and Windows 8
Hello everyone, Please pardon any duplications, but wanted to let everyone know that so far, I've installed the client software (2.1.1) on my new Windows 8 Pro box and client is working with no issues so far. I didn't think there should be too many, but in case anyone was wonderingnow if I can just figure out how to get to my desktop, I'm good! Tony *** Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 1-800-686-8975 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Limits on numbers of attached items?
Hi all, I was out of the office yesterday, so I wanted to say thank you very much for the info...this helps...especially when we are considering serials and individual library serial records. Tony *** Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 1-800-686-8975 x19 On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Duimovich, George george.duimov...@nrcan-rncan.gc.ca wrote: FWIW, During the migration of one of our systems to Evergreen, we had about 7-10 records that hit this limit (out of about 120K records exported from that particular branch). All special series titles with thousands of attached barcoded items. The ILS exported the MARC records ok, but truncated data in our 9xx holdings tags after hitting the 99,999 limit on those records. George George Duimovich NRCan Library / Bibliothèque de RNCan -Original Message- From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Jason Stephenson Sent: September 25, 2012 13:56 To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Limits on numbers of attached items? Quoting Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org: Hi all, Working with our consortium, specifically related to setting policies, etc. does anyone know of the limit of attached items on bibliographic records? My notes indicate 2,000, but tracking down where that came from is proving elusiveanyone know of the limits? The only limit that I am aware of is the size of a MARC record is limited to 99,999 bytes. If you export a MARC record with holdings in the 852 or other tag, depending on the amount of data in the other fields, you can quickly run out of room for holdings. There may be other, system-dependent limitations on how many copies you can reasonably attach to a bib, such as the time it takes to retrieve all the data and return to the client, the amount of RAM on the client and the efficiency or inefficiency of trying to display 2000 copies, etc. These, however, will vary depending on the hardware of the servers, the quality of the network connection, the hardware on the client, even the client O/S can make a difference. Thanks in advance for your thoughts Tony *** Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 1-800-686-8975 x19 -- Jason Stephenson Assistant Director for Technology Services Merrimack Valley Library Consortium Chief Bug Wrangler, Evergreen ILS
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Limits on numbers of attached items?
Hi all, Working with our consortium, specifically related to setting policies, etc. does anyone know of the limit of attached items on bibliographic records? My notes indicate 2,000, but tracking down where that came from is proving elusiveanyone know of the limits? Thanks in advance for your thoughts Tony *** Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 1-800-686-8975 x19
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] pgAdmin usage?
Hi all, Working on increasing my knowledge of Evergreen's inner workings, I've come across some threads on using pgAdmin to do various db tasks and queries. Just wanted to pitch this out there and get anyone's thoughts on the pro vs. con of using this particular tool vs. console usage. Good tool or dangerous? Thanks for your thoughts.Happy Friday! Tony *** Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 1-800-686-8975 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] pgAdmin usage?
Thanks for the good info...this really helps. I can poke around with Vi pretty good, but still learning postgres, etc. Having this new tool will help a bunch. Now, back to working on my Mac client! :) Appreciate it! Tony On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Sharp, Chris csh...@georgialibraries.orgwrote: Of course, depending on your permissions, you can accidentally change data in tables, so one should be careful when clicking around too. Which is why it's a great idea to create a read-only user for such connections. - Original Message - From: Ben Shum bs...@biblio.org To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 1:01:38 PM Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] pgAdmin usage? Hi Tony, We've been using pgAdmin all along to work with our PostgreSQL databases. Personally, I've liked having a graphical view of certain tables. It also gave me a bird's eye of the various inner workings of the tables too without knowing all the SQL syntax required. The most annoying thing that can go wrong with using pgAdmin in my experience is opening a table to view all rows and not remembering said table contains thousands (if not millions) or entries. Like clicking view all on biblio.record_entry would show me every bib record in my database. Doing so tends to crash out pgAdmin as it tries in vain to open all the rows for me. I've taken care to using view 100 to only get a sampling of a table. Of course, depending on your permissions, you can accidentally change data in tables, so one should be careful when clicking around too. -- Ben On 9/21/2012 12:03 PM, Tony Bandy wrote: Hi all, Working on increasing my knowledge of Evergreen's inner workings, I've come across some threads on using pgAdmin to do various db tasks and queries. Just wanted to pitch this out there and get anyone's thoughts on the pro vs. con of using this particular tool vs. console usage. Good tool or dangerous? Thanks for your thoughts.Happy Friday! Tony *** Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 1-800-686-8975 x19 -- Benjamin Shum Open Source Software Coordinator Bibliomation, Inc. 32 Crest Road Middlebury, CT 06762 203-577-4070, ext. 113 -- Chris Sharp PINES Program Manager Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 Atlanta, Georgia 30345 (404) 235-7147 csh...@georgialibraries.org http://pines.georgialibraries.org/
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Staff client software vs. web-based interface
Hi all, I've got an OSX iMac to help volunteer with! I can't say I'm a OSX guru, but really good at following instructions! If anyone wants to work with me, I could probably devote some hours to helping out, at least testing, etc. I think I've got Xcode (?) installed somewhere on my iMac Tony *** Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 1-800-686-8975 x19 On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Galen Charlton g...@esilibrary.com wrote: Hi, On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Lazar, Alexey Vladimirovich alexey.la...@mnsu.edu wrote: What is the reason for lack of official releases of staff client software for Mac OS (and Linux)? Is it strategy, because there is no need, or like with some other things, not enough volunteers? I don't think it's a strategy per se, just more a lack of volunteers. If somebody were to step forward and volunteer to package OS X clients as part of the release-cutting process, I think that would be welcomed with open arms. Even better would be if somebody could submit a patch to automate building them. Triple-word-score if it could be done without requiring an OS X box. Similiarly, if somebody were to step up and get involved in packing the Linux clients for various distributions, that would be great. The technical bar is lower, as Thomas' good work with the staff client autoupdate mechanism means that it's become quite easy to build Linux clients; at this point the main question is whether somebody is up to maintaining and testing .deb or ..rpm. Regards, Galen -- Galen Charlton Director of Implementation Equinox Software, Inc. / The Open Source Experts email: g...@esilibrary.com direct: +1 770-709-5581 cell: +1 404-984-4366 skype: gmcharlt web:http://www.esilibrary.com/ Supporting Koha and Evergreen: http://koha-community.org http://evergreen-ils.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] ***SPAM*** Re: Staff client software vs. web-based interface
Thanks BenThis really helps...I started once on Linux, but got lost somewhere in the make stuff Tony On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Ben Shum bs...@biblio.org wrote: I just updated the link for Installing Evergreen on Mac on the downloads page to point at http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=mozilla-devel:building_the_staff_client#building_a_macintosh_staff_client It's a slightly newer set of instructions that Mike Peters recently helped to put together. We'll probably want to flesh out some more specific details regarding compatible xulrunner versions based on version of Evergreen. -- Ben On 09/20/2012 11:52 AM, Steve Wills wrote: Like so much else in this project, from my perspective, it is lack of time. The Balsam libraries, especially the public schools have a number of Macs and I did build an osX client for 2.0.9. My next upgrade will be a jump to 2.2 probably during this quarter. At that time I'll create a 2.2 staff client of osX out of necessity. Between Sitka and Balsam and a few others there are some osX clients around however. Tony, your help would be Greatfully accepted! Thanks in advance. Steve Wills -Original Message- *From:* Tony Bandy [mailto:to...@ohionet.org to...@ohionet.org] *Sent:* Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:38 AM *To:* 'Evergreen Discussion Group' *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Staff client software vs. web-based interface Hi all, I've got an OSX iMac to help volunteer with! I can't say I'm a OSX guru, but really good at following instructions! If anyone wants to work with me, I could probably devote some hours to helping out, at least testing, etc. I think I've got Xcode (?) installed somewhere on my iMac Tony *** Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 1-800-686-8975 x19 #139e4651a7b72b5f_ On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Galen Charlton g...@esilibrary.comwrote: Hi, On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Lazar, Alexey Vladimirovich alexey.la...@mnsu.edu wrote: What is the reason for lack of official releases of staff client software for Mac OS (and Linux)? Is it strategy, because there is no need, or like with some other things, not enough volunteers? I don't think it's a strategy per se, just more a lack of volunteers. If somebody were to step forward and volunteer to package OS X clients as part of the release-cutting process, I think that would be welcomed with open arms. Even better would be if somebody could submit a patch to automate building them. Triple-word-score if it could be done without requiring an OS X box. Similiarly, if somebody were to step up and get involved in packing the Linux clients for various distributions, that would be great. The technical bar is lower, as Thomas' good work with the staff client autoupdate mechanism means that it's become quite easy to build Linux clients; at this point the main question is whether somebody is up to maintaining and testing .deb or ..rpm. Regards, Galen -- Galen Charlton Director of Implementation Equinox Software, Inc. / The Open Source Experts email: g...@esilibrary.com direct: +1 770-709-5581 #139e4651a7b72b5f_ cell: +1 404-984-4366 #139e4651a7b72b5f_ skype: gmcharlt web:http://www.esilibrary.com/ Supporting Koha and Evergreen: http://koha-community.org http://evergreen-ils.org -- Benjamin Shum Open Source Software Coordinator Bibliomation, Inc. 32 Crest Road Middlebury, CT 06762203-577-4070, ext. 113
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Differences in documentation?
Morning all, If this has been discussed previously, please forgive me. Was looking in the documentation last night particularly from 1.6, Chap 25 ( http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/1.6/draft/html/serveradministration.html) and was noticing that this branch was not present in the new 2.X series of information. Any ideas or maybe I've just missed something? Would Chap. 25 be actively considered as still valid for the 2.X series of Evergreen? Feeling a bit guilty as I have not contributed to the docs group yet, but it's on my radar! :) Tony *** Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 1-800-686-8975 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Help on Circ. Matrix Weights if you can....
Thanks for the update...appreciate it! Any information helps! Tony *** Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 1-800-686-8975 x19 On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Thomas Berezansky tsb...@mvlc.org wrote: The weights are associated with org units based on the weights association table. The circulating library is the org unit for circ weights, I believe a global flag determines if the copy owning or circ library is the org unit for hold weights. Thomas Berezansky Merrimack Valley Library Consortium Quoting Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org: Hi all, Working with one of our libraries on getting things to circulate properly, and I'm needing some background information on the Circ. Matrix Weights table--can you help? Specifically, my weights table has three lines: Default Org_Unit_First Item_Owner_First All_Equal Since all of these lines assign different numerical values to each of the categories, how or when is each applied? That is, which line of the 4 above is applied when configuring the weights on a checkout? All the documentation I can find talks generically about the weights but does not specifically say when or how each line is applied. Any ideas you can help with will be most appreciated. Thanks, Tony * Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 1-800-686-8975 x19 **
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Help on Circ. Matrix Weights if you can....
Hi all, Working with one of our libraries on getting things to circulate properly, and I'm needing some background information on the Circ. Matrix Weights table--can you help? Specifically, my weights table has three lines: Default Org_Unit_First Item_Owner_First All_Equal Since all of these lines assign different numerical values to each of the categories, how or when is each applied? That is, which line of the 4 above is applied when configuring the weights on a checkout? All the documentation I can find talks generically about the weights but does not specifically say when or how each line is applied. Any ideas you can help with will be most appreciated. Thanks, Tony *** Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 1-800-686-8975 x19
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Links for examples of Regular Expressions in the Marc Batch Editor?
Hi all, Anyone have any good examples or documentation on the Regular Expressions function in the Marc Batch Editor? I've got the camel book, but something just isn't clicking when I'm building my terms. Thanks in advance for any thoughts, hints or cheats! Tony *** Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 1-800-686-8975 x19
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries?
Hi all, At the risk of being the cause of too much email in folk's inboxes, could COOL be added as well (server maintained @OHIONET in Col. Ohio, several libraries around the state)? We're two libraries strong and counting, with 8 in the consortium by next year. Here's our catalog: http://cool-cat.org Here's our consortial map: http://info.cool-cat.org/?page_id=13 Tony *** Tony Bandy to...@ohionet.org OHIONET 1500 West Lane Ave. Columbus, OH 43221-3975 1-800-686-8975 x19 On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Ben Hyman ben.hy...@bc.libraries.coopwrote: On 2012-05-09, at 10:15 AM, Mary Toma wrote: None of the Manitoba libraries are included on this map. Mary Hi Mary, They actually were, but for some reason, they appeared in Minnesota ;) In the correct jurisdiction now, though likely not the correct lat/long From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Ben Hyman Sent: May 9, 2012 8:11 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] State of the map of Evergreen libraries? Resending belatedly. Initial reply went --abyss On 2012-05-05, at 8:23 PM, Ben Hyman wrote: HI Dan, On 2012-05-05, at 2:40 PM, Dan Scott wrote: Hi: During Ben Hyman's opening bit on international libraries, he mentioned that he had started trying to resurrect the map of Evergreen libraries that Bob Molyneux had originally created. Here's the map I threw together for the presentation: http://g.co/maps/6pgfb I know that several people have obtained copies of Bob's KML file; I'm wondering if it makes sense to try and organize a collaborative effort on keeping the data up to date? Love that idea. Happy to help keep it current. Ben (I'll admit that I have an ulterior motive of wanting to point at a map with such data during an upcoming presentation at PGCon 2012 - and while there's Mr. Breeding's effort, I have a strong bias towards community-maintained data...) Dan Ben Hyman Managing Director | BC Libraries Cooperative ben.hy...@bc.libraries.coop (tf) 1.855.383.5761 ext 1001 (p) 250.590.7676 (f) 250.984.7459 bc.libraries.coop image001.jpg