Re: RM Participations name/role?

[Thomas Beale]

Ok, sounds like a new need ... Ian, do you want to check if there's a PR 
for that, and if not, add one? This might even be doable in the next 
release.


- thomas


On 23/11/2016 12:47, Ian McNicoll wrote:

Hi both

Agreed.

Role = pathologist
Function = macroscopic histopath examination.

Ian.
On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 at 17:32, Thomas Beale > wrote:


Hi Silje,

The PARTICIPATION class


has a codable attribute 'function' for this purpose (calling it
'function' rather than 'role' came from 13606). It may be that you
want to state a 'role' as well, i.e. to say that a certain /kind
of person/ is required, and then use function to state the actual
function that person is supposed to do in the particular activity
in question.

I would have expected 'function' to be sufficient for your example
- just use 2 x other_participations on the OBSERVATION.

An example of needing both could be something like:

  * role = nurse
  * function = foley catheterisation

Currently 'role' is only known in the demographic model, i.e. on
the other side of the PARTY_PROXY.external_ref link. It may make
sense to add a role attribute to PARTICIPATION at some point if we
need to distinguish the type of person (qualification) from what
they do in the activity.

- thomas



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Re: RM Participations name/role?

[Ian McNicoll]

Hi both

Agreed.

Role = pathologist
Function = macroscopic histopath examination.

Ian.
On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 at 17:32, Thomas Beale  wrote:

> Hi Silje,
>
> The PARTICIPATION class
> 
> has a codable attribute 'function' for this purpose (calling it 'function'
> rather than 'role' came from 13606). It may be that you want to state a
> 'role' as well, i.e. to say that a certain *kind of person* is required,
> and then use function to state the actual function that person is supposed
> to do in the particular activity in question.
> I would have expected 'function' to be sufficient for your example - just
> use 2 x other_participations on the OBSERVATION.
>
> An example of needing both could be something like:
>
>- role = nurse
>- function = foley catheterisation
>
> Currently 'role' is only known in the demographic model, i.e. on the other
> side of the PARTY_PROXY.external_ref link. It may make sense to add a role
> attribute to PARTICIPATION at some point if we need to distinguish the type
> of person (qualification) from what they do in the activity.
>
> - thomas
>
> On 23/11/2016 06:29, Bakke, Silje Ljosland wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> We’re wondering if it’s possible to specify what the role was of each
> instance of Participation in an OBSERVATION archetype? For instance in a
> histopathology result the macroscopic description will often be performed
> by a different person from the microscopic description. We’re thinking both
> will be listed using participation, but we need to be able to document
> which person did what.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
> *Silje Ljosland Bakke*
>
>
>
> Information Architect, RN
>
> Coordinator, National Editorial Board for Archetypes
> National ICT Norway
>
> Tel. +47 40203298
>
> Web: http://arketyper.no / Twitter: @arketyper_no
> 
>
>
>
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Re: RM Participations name/role?

[Thomas Beale]

Hi Silje,

The PARTICIPATION class 
 
has a codable attribute 'function' for this purpose (calling it 
'function' rather than 'role' came from 13606). It may be that you want 
to state a 'role' as well, i.e. to say that a certain /kind of person/ 
is required, and then use function to state the actual function that 
person is supposed to do in the particular activity in question.


I would have expected 'function' to be sufficient for your example - 
just use 2 x other_participations on the OBSERVATION.


An example of needing both could be something like:

 * role = nurse
 * function = foley catheterisation

Currently 'role' is only known in the demographic model, i.e. on the 
other side of the PARTY_PROXY.external_ref link. It may make sense to 
add a role attribute to PARTICIPATION at some point if we need to 
distinguish the type of person (qualification) from what they do in the 
activity.


- thomas


On 23/11/2016 06:29, Bakke, Silje Ljosland wrote:


Hi,

We’re wondering if it’s possible to specify what the role was of each 
instance of Participation in an OBSERVATION archetype? For instance in 
a histopathology result the macroscopic description will often be 
performed by a different person from the microscopic description. 
We’re thinking both will be listed using participation, but we need to 
be able to document which person did what.


Kind regards,
*Silje Ljosland Bakke*

**

Information Architect, RN

Coordinator, National Editorial Board for Archetypes
National ICT Norway

Tel. +47 40203298

Web: http://arketyper.no / Twitter: 
@arketyper_no 




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Re: Question about paths to C_SINGLE_ATTRIBUTE alternatives

[Thomas Beale]

So far we have a Problem Report 
 which 
I think needs to be discussed by the Specifictions Editorial Committee 
in the normal way to decide if it becomes a CR, what release it would go 
in and so on.


- thomas


On 07/11/2016 11:39, pablo pazos wrote:
Hi Thomas, do you recall if we have any change request to make dvs 
inherit from locatable?


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RM Participations name/role?

[Bakke, Silje Ljosland]

Hi,

We're wondering if it's possible to specify what the role was of each instance 
of Participation in an OBSERVATION archetype? For instance in a histopathology 
result the macroscopic description will often be performed by a different 
person from the microscopic description. We're thinking both will be listed 
using participation, but we need to be able to document which person did what.

Kind regards,
Silje Ljosland Bakke

Information Architect, RN
Coordinator, National Editorial Board for Archetypes
National ICT Norway
Tel. +47 40203298
Web: http://arketyper.no / Twitter: 
@arketyper_no

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