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[David Moner]

I agree with Sam and Ian. You nominate someone else for a prize, for
example. But for a position you should nominate yourself, and maybe then be
supported by other member.

David

2015-01-11 14:02 GMT+01:00 Ian McNicoll :

> Hi Pablo,
>
> I think we all agree that the current tool has some difficulties but
> its real advantage is in managing the voting process in a trusted
> manner. For all its deficiencies, this particular piece of software
> seems to have a good reputation in terms of handling the voting
> process accurately and fairly. The last thing we want to do at the
> moment is to be seen to be hacking things together, with the risk of
> people claiming that the process has been unfair or inaccurate.
>
> I absolutely agree that once this process is over, the new Management
> Board should review how we manage membership lists and the voting
> process for the future. Perhaps this is something that the proposed
> new Web committee could look at. It would certainly be good to have
> things much better integrated on the main site.
>
> For now, I would much prefer to work on better communications on the
> members site and on the main site.
>
> I think the self-nomination question is a bit of a red-herring.
>
> As Sam has said, there is a minimum commitment that anyone nominated
> (self or otherwise)  has to commit to.
>
> They have to want to be nominated, they have to sign up as an
> Individual / Industry Partner member, and they have to provide a short
> bio.
>
> I would certainly not want to be nominated publicly by someone else
> until my agreement had been sought privately or otherwise
>
> Behind the scenes I would fully expect Individual Members to be
> encouraging others to nominate themselves and offer support, or for
> people to seek such support and then self-nominate.
>
> Again, it is something that can be reviewed in light of our experience
> but I don't think changing from self-nomination really makes much
> difference to the practicalities.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ian
>
>
> Dr Ian McNicoll
> office +44 (0)1536 414 994
> fax +44 (0)1536 516317
> mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859
> skype ianmcnicoll
> ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com
>
> Clinical Modelling Consultant, Ocean Informatics, UK
> Director openEHR Foundation  www.openehr.org/knowledge
> Honorary Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL
> SCIMP Working Group, NHS Scotland
> BCS Primary Health Care  www.phcsg.org
>
>
> On 10 January 2015 at 12:10, pazospablo at hotmail.com
>  wrote:
> > I also understood we were nominating other people, not ourselves and was
> > promoting this in the ES community asking them to join and nominate :/
> >
> >
> > IMO self nomination is weird  because you need to ask someone to support
> > your nomination. Nominating someone else is easier, we just need to ask
> the
> > person if he/she wants to be nominated.
> >
> >
> > About the chosen tool to hanlde this: ot os difficult to work with, from
> the
> > user and admin perspective. IMO the same can be done just with google
> forms,
> > that is free and widely used, and paypal directly.
> >
> >
> > Sent from my LG Mobile
> >
> > -- Original message--
> >
> > From: Ian McNicoll
> >
> > Date: Fri, Jan 2, 2015 8:31 AM
> >
> > To: For openEHR clinical discussions;
> >
> > Cc: For openEHR technical discussions;
> >
> > Subject:Re: [openEHR-announce] Extension of nominations 31 Jan 2015 - and
> > join up now.
> >
> > Hi Erik,Happy New Year.I agree the list of current nominees and members
> > should be made moreobvious- @Sam - is this possible?I have no idea what
> is
> > meant by 'include name in list of eventregistrants'. There is certainly
> no
> > other  'secret' list of nomineesand current Board members are not
> > automatically nominated.You are correct that self-nomination is
> expected. I
> > am not sure thatit makes sense to nominate someone else since it would
> > really requirethat person's agreement in any case. They would need to be
> > registeredmembers and would need to nominate themselves, provide a bio
> > etc.The nomination does need support from an existing Board member
> butthis
> > is purely to prevent vexatious or spurious nominations. I wouldcertainly
> not
> > expect a nomination to be rejected other than in highlyextreme
> > circumstances, and I would personally be happy to supportanyone from the
> > 'known' openEHR community, should they wish it.I am not aware of any
> > Industry group nominations so far but understandthat these are imminent.I

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[Ian McNicoll]

Hi Pablo,

I think we all agree that the current tool has some difficulties but
its real advantage is in managing the voting process in a trusted
manner. For all its deficiencies, this particular piece of software
seems to have a good reputation in terms of handling the voting
process accurately and fairly. The last thing we want to do at the
moment is to be seen to be hacking things together, with the risk of
people claiming that the process has been unfair or inaccurate.

I absolutely agree that once this process is over, the new Management
Board should review how we manage membership lists and the voting
process for the future. Perhaps this is something that the proposed
new Web committee could look at. It would certainly be good to have
things much better integrated on the main site.

For now, I would much prefer to work on better communications on the
members site and on the main site.

I think the self-nomination question is a bit of a red-herring.

As Sam has said, there is a minimum commitment that anyone nominated
(self or otherwise)  has to commit to.

They have to want to be nominated, they have to sign up as an
Individual / Industry Partner member, and they have to provide a short
bio.

I would certainly not want to be nominated publicly by someone else
until my agreement had been sought privately or otherwise

Behind the scenes I would fully expect Individual Members to be
encouraging others to nominate themselves and offer support, or for
people to seek such support and then self-nominate.

Again, it is something that can be reviewed in light of our experience
but I don't think changing from self-nomination really makes much
difference to the practicalities.

Regards,

Ian


Dr Ian McNicoll
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fax +44 (0)1536 516317
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Clinical Modelling Consultant, Ocean Informatics, UK
Director openEHR Foundation  www.openehr.org/knowledge
Honorary Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL
SCIMP Working Group, NHS Scotland
BCS Primary Health Care  www.phcsg.org


On 10 January 2015 at 12:10, pazospablo at hotmail.com
 wrote:
> I also understood we were nominating other people, not ourselves and was
> promoting this in the ES community asking them to join and nominate :/
>
>
> IMO self nomination is weird  because you need to ask someone to support
> your nomination. Nominating someone else is easier, we just need to ask the
> person if he/she wants to be nominated.
>
>
> About the chosen tool to hanlde this: ot os difficult to work with, from the
> user and admin perspective. IMO the same can be done just with google forms,
> that is free and widely used, and paypal directly.
>
>
> Sent from my LG Mobile
>
> -- Original message--
>
> From: Ian McNicoll
>
> Date: Fri, Jan 2, 2015 8:31 AM
>
> To: For openEHR clinical discussions;
>
> Cc: For openEHR technical discussions;
>
> Subject:Re: [openEHR-announce] Extension of nominations 31 Jan 2015 - and
> join up now.
>
> Hi Erik,Happy New Year.I agree the list of current nominees and members
> should be made moreobvious- @Sam - is this possible?I have no idea what is
> meant by 'include name in list of eventregistrants'. There is certainly no
> other  'secret' list of nomineesand current Board members are not
> automatically nominated.You are correct that self-nomination is expected. I
> am not sure thatit makes sense to nominate someone else since it would
> really requirethat person's agreement in any case. They would need to be
> registeredmembers and would need to nominate themselves, provide a bio
> etc.The nomination does need support from an existing Board member butthis
> is purely to prevent vexatious or spurious nominations. I wouldcertainly not
> expect a nomination to be rejected other than in highlyextreme
> circumstances, and I would personally be happy to supportanyone from the
> 'known' openEHR community, should they wish it.I am not aware of any
> Industry group nominations so far but understandthat these are imminent.I
> agree too that we should issue regular updates over the next weeks,along
> with lists of current nominations - we need more!Regards,IanDr Ian
> McNicolloffice +44 (0)1536 414 994fax +44 (0)1536 516317mobile +44 (0)775
> 209 7859skype ianmcnicollian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.comClinical 
> Modelling
> Consultant, Ocean Informatics, UKDirector openEHR Foundation
> www.openehr.org/knowledgeHonorary Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCLSCIMP
> Working Group, NHS ScotlandBCS Primary Health Care  www.phcsg.orgOn 28
> December 2014 at 09:11, Erik Sundvall  wrote:> Hi and seasons greetings!>> I
> find the openEHR board nomination process a bit confusing and pretty>
> different to what I am used to in other communi

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[pazospa...@hotmail.com]

I also understood we were nominating other people, not ourselves and was 
promoting this in the ES community asking them to join and nominate :/
IMO self nomination is weird ?because you need to ask someone to support your 
nomination. Nominating someone else is easier, we just need to ask the person 
if he/she wants to be nominated.
About the chosen tool to hanlde this: ot os difficult to work with, from the 
user and admin perspective. IMO the same can be done just with google forms, 
that is free and widely used, and paypal directly.
Sent from my LG Mobile


-- Original message--From: Ian McNicollDate: Fri, Jan 2, 2015 8:31 
AMTo: For openEHR clinical discussions;Cc: For openEHR technical 
discussions;Subject:Re: [openEHR-announce] Extension of nominations 31 Jan 2015 
- and join up now.Hi Erik,Happy New Year.I agree the list of current nominees 
and members should be made moreobvious- @Sam - is this possible?I have no idea 
what is meant by 'include name in list of eventregistrants'. There is certainly 
no other  'secret' list of nomineesand current Board members are not 
automatically nominated.You are correct that self-nomination is expected. I am 
not sure thatit makes sense to nominate someone else since it would really 
requirethat person's agreement in any case. They would need to be 
registeredmembers and would need to nominate themselves, provide a bio etc.The 
nomination does need support from an existing Board member butthis is purely to 
prevent vexatious or spurious nominations. I wouldcertainly not expect a 
nomination to be rejected other than in highlyextreme circumstances, and I 
would personally be happy to supportanyone from the 'known' openEHR community, 
should they wish it.I am not aware of any Industry group nominations so far but 
understandthat these are imminent.I agree too that we should issue regular 
updates over the next weeks,along with lists of current nominations - we need 
more!Regards,IanDr Ian McNicolloffice +44 (0)1536 414 994fax +44 (0)1536 
516317mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859skype ianmcnicollian.mcnicoll at 
oceaninformatics.comClinical Modelling Consultant, Ocean Informatics, 
UKDirector openEHR Foundation  www.openehr.org/knowledgeHonorary Senior 
Research Associate, CHIME, UCLSCIMP Working Group, NHS ScotlandBCS Primary 
Health Care  www.phcsg.orgOn 28 December 2014 at 09:11, Erik Sundvall  wrote:> 
Hi and seasons greetings!>> I find the openEHR board nomination process a bit 
confusing and pretty> different to what I am used to in other community 
settings.>> When joining as an openEHR individual member you first have to wait 
until> your application has been approved, this might be logical in some ways, 
but> it means you will need to remember to get back to the member site some 
days> later and then do your nominations (a nomination dropout risk).>> Also 
you can not even view nominations without logging in. After logging in> I did 
not find any list of members possible to nominate, but after> navigating around 
a while I found these four nominations:> - Bosca Tomas, Diego> - McNicoll, Ian> 
- Bakke, Silje Ljosland> - Kobayashi, Shinji>> I guess these nice persons were 
nominated by individual members, I did not> find any information regarding if 
industry members have nominated any> candidates.>> I did not find any 
information regarding if any of the current board members> are considered 
already nominated or not (I guess not, since Ian is on the> current board and 
has been nominated separately).>> The strangest thing, unless I misunderstood 
the submission form:> The form is rigged primarily to nominate yourself, and it 
is optional to> "Include name in list of event registrants" - does that mean 
that there may> be people secretly nominated? Very strange at least from a 
Swedish> community/NGO/volunteer-org perspective.>> I would like to nominate 
Thomas Beale for example, can I do that? By> replacing my own name that is 
pre-filled in the form I guess it is possible> to nominate someone else but it 
is far from obvious from form-texts> regarding "your nomination" etc.>> In the 
community settings I am used to, the nominations are open so that any> member 
can nominate any member, then the nominated persons are asked if they> would 
accept a nomination or not, then there is a vote among the remaining> nominated 
persons.>> I would suggest some changes> - Listing all current nominations 
(including from both industry and> individual members) without login 
requirement> - Allowing at least logged in members to see who else is a member 
(so that> we know who can be nominated and can encourage people to become 
members if> they are not listed)> - Making it possible to nominate other people 
than yourself> - Clarifying if anybody not on the visible nomination list is 
considered to> be nominated> - Send out nomination reminders regularly (perhaps 
including a list of the> then nominated persons)>> Best regards,> Erik 
Sundvall>> Ph.D. Medical I

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[Shinji KOBAYASHI]

Thank you for gentle explanation, Ian.
It is not clear for me yet that where we are and why we got there, but
it seems quite obvious that we definitely need to go forward from
here, I guess.
To go forward, we have to organise a new board as an engine to drive
our project as soon as possible.
In short, we have to choose 2 individual representative from there
four nominees until Jan 31.

Shinji Kobayashi(me)
Silje Ljosland Bakke
Ian McNicoll
Diego Bosca Thomas

However, we do not know enough information to decide vote for each
candidates. Yes I know me and other candidates, but we have to address
our bio for decision makers like other elections.
Here is my bio.

Shinji KOBAYASHI, MD, PhD
A senior lecturer of the EHR research unit, Kyoto University in Japan.
I have trained as an clinical informatician and a clinical
hematology/oncologist in these 20 years.
* Achievement related with openEHR Projects:
 * Original papers
 KOBAYASHI S, TATSUKAWA A, Ruby implementation of openEHR
specifications. JACIII 16(1): 42-47 (2012)
 * Conferences
 The openEHR Developers' Workshop. MedInfo 2013
 Shinji Kobayashi, Eizen Kimura, Ken Ishihara: Creating Electronic
Health Records within 15 Minutes with Ruby on Rails And ISO
13606/OpenEHR Standardized Clinical Models. MedInfo 2013
 The openEHR Developers' Workshop. MedInfo 2010
* Activity related with openEHR.
 A lead of openEHR.jp(from 2007)
 The openEHR tutorial workshop in Manila(July 2013)
 More than twice a year we have made seminars around openEHR from 2008.
 A qualified member of openEHR localisation and web committee.
* What I would do if I elected.
 I will launch NPO to facilitate openEHR works in Japan this early
2015. My motivation is to propagate and utilise openEHR specification
like ground roots.

Please ask me any question around me. Moreover, could you let us know
a profile of each nominee?

Shinji KOBAYASHI


2015-01-08 22:15 GMT+09:00 Ian McNicoll :
> Hi Heather, Vebj?rn,
>
> The nominations are for election to the new Management Board. None of
> the existing Board members will be automatically appointed. The
> Management Board is the group which is intended to direct Foundation
> affairs in a practical sense and in that role, all of the current
> Interim Board members are effectively 'standing down'.
>
> My understanding is that all of the Interim Board members will remain
> as 'Company Members' ( the legal 'owners' in UK Company law) until
> after the election. The role of Company Members is largely nominal i.e
> somewhat like Trustees / Guarantors in a charity to provide general
> oversight.
>
> The current proposals envisage a small Company Membership but we know
> that there is some debate in the community about whether every
> Individual and Industry member should automatically also be a
> legal'Company Member'. UK not-for-profit law recognises both
> approaches as being valid in different circumstances. The Interim
> Board felt that this discussion still needs to be had but that it was
> more important to get the new Management Board up and running first,
> particularly as the election process should give that group a stronger
> mandate and hopefully introduce fresh perspectives.
>
> I would regard the Management Board as holding the key power and
> responsibility and that this is a new entity. If current Interim Board
> members want to participate they should nominate like anyone else.
>
> Current Interim Board members will carry on in the short term as the
> legal 'Company Members' until that broader constitutional question is
> resolved. This will be an important discussion but is almost wholly
> about how we feel that the aims and philosophy of the Foundation are
> best protected, and not about running the Foundation per-se.
>
> Ian
>
>
>
>
> Dr Ian McNicoll
> office +44 (0)1536 414 994
> fax +44 (0)1536 516317
> mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859
> skype ianmcnicoll
> ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com
>
> Clinical Modelling Consultant, Ocean Informatics, UK
> Director openEHR Foundation  www.openehr.org/knowledge
> Honorary Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL
> SCIMP Working Group, NHS Scotland
> BCS Primary Health Care  www.phcsg.org
>
>
> On 8 January 2015 at 01:00, Heather Leslie
>  wrote:
>> Thanks Ian,
>>
>> I would be interested to know who is remaining and who is standing down. Is 
>> that information available?
>>
>> I suspect that others in the community might like it too. It may influence 
>> decisions to nominate, or not.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Heather
>>
>>> -Original Message-----
>>> From: openEHR-technical [mailto:openehr-technical-
>>> bounces at lists.openehr.org] On Behalf Of Ian McNicoll
>>> Sent: Wedn

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[Ian McNicoll]

Hi Heather, Vebj?rn,

The nominations are for election to the new Management Board. None of
the existing Board members will be automatically appointed. The
Management Board is the group which is intended to direct Foundation
affairs in a practical sense and in that role, all of the current
Interim Board members are effectively 'standing down'.

My understanding is that all of the Interim Board members will remain
as 'Company Members' ( the legal 'owners' in UK Company law) until
after the election. The role of Company Members is largely nominal i.e
somewhat like Trustees / Guarantors in a charity to provide general
oversight.

The current proposals envisage a small Company Membership but we know
that there is some debate in the community about whether every
Individual and Industry member should automatically also be a
legal'Company Member'. UK not-for-profit law recognises both
approaches as being valid in different circumstances. The Interim
Board felt that this discussion still needs to be had but that it was
more important to get the new Management Board up and running first,
particularly as the election process should give that group a stronger
mandate and hopefully introduce fresh perspectives.

I would regard the Management Board as holding the key power and
responsibility and that this is a new entity. If current Interim Board
members want to participate they should nominate like anyone else.

Current Interim Board members will carry on in the short term as the
legal 'Company Members' until that broader constitutional question is
resolved. This will be an important discussion but is almost wholly
about how we feel that the aims and philosophy of the Foundation are
best protected, and not about running the Foundation per-se.

Ian




Dr Ian McNicoll
office +44 (0)1536 414 994
fax +44 (0)1536 516317
mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859
skype ianmcnicoll
ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com

Clinical Modelling Consultant, Ocean Informatics, UK
Director openEHR Foundation  www.openehr.org/knowledge
Honorary Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL
SCIMP Working Group, NHS Scotland
BCS Primary Health Care  www.phcsg.org


On 8 January 2015 at 01:00, Heather Leslie
 wrote:
> Thanks Ian,
>
> I would be interested to know who is remaining and who is standing down. Is 
> that information available?
>
> I suspect that others in the community might like it too. It may influence 
> decisions to nominate, or not.
>
> Regards
>
> Heather
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: openEHR-technical [mailto:openehr-technical-
>> bounces at lists.openehr.org] On Behalf Of Ian McNicoll
>> Sent: Wednesday, 7 January 2015 7:32 PM
>> To: For openEHR clinical discussions
>> Cc: For openEHR technical discussions
>> Subject: Re: [openEHR-announce] Extension of nominations 31 Jan 2015 - and
>> join up now.
>>
>> Hi Heather,
>>
>> The existing Board will be dissolved. The current interim Board members will
>> remain as legal Company members/directors in line with UK not-for-profit
>> company law until after the new Board is elected after which the legal
>> Company membership will also change and a number of the existing Company
>> Members will stand down.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>>
>> Dr Ian McNicoll
>> office +44 (0)1536 414 994
>> fax +44 (0)1536 516317
>> mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859
>> skype ianmcnicoll
>> ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com
>>
>> Clinical Modelling Consultant, Ocean Informatics, UK Director openEHR
>> Foundation  www.openehr.org/knowledge Honorary Senior Research
>> Associate, CHIME, UCL SCIMP Working Group, NHS Scotland BCS Primary
>> Health Care  www.phcsg.org
>>
>>
>> On 7 January 2015 at 05:52, Heather Leslie
>>  wrote:
>> > Hi Sam,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Can you please clarify what is happening to the existing Board. Is it
>> > dissolving completely or are some members remaining or??
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > It seems that at least some are renominating.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Heather
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: openEHR-clinical
>> > [mailto:openehr-clinical-bounces at lists.openehr.org]
>> > On Behalf Of sam.heard at openehrfoundation.org
>> > Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2015 7:23 AM
>> > To: For openEHR technical discussions; For openEHR clinical
>> > discussions
>> > Subject: Re: [openEHR-announce] Extension of nominations 31 Jan 2015 -
>> > and join up now.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi All and Happy New 

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[Heather Leslie]

Thanks Ian,

I would be interested to know who is remaining and who is standing down. Is 
that information available?

I suspect that others in the community might like it too. It may influence 
decisions to nominate, or not.

Regards

Heather

> -Original Message-
> From: openEHR-technical [mailto:openehr-technical-
> bounces at lists.openehr.org] On Behalf Of Ian McNicoll
> Sent: Wednesday, 7 January 2015 7:32 PM
> To: For openEHR clinical discussions
> Cc: For openEHR technical discussions
> Subject: Re: [openEHR-announce] Extension of nominations 31 Jan 2015 - and
> join up now.
> 
> Hi Heather,
> 
> The existing Board will be dissolved. The current interim Board members will
> remain as legal Company members/directors in line with UK not-for-profit
> company law until after the new Board is elected after which the legal
> Company membership will also change and a number of the existing Company
> Members will stand down.
> 
> Ian
> 
> 
> Dr Ian McNicoll
> office +44 (0)1536 414 994
> fax +44 (0)1536 516317
> mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859
> skype ianmcnicoll
> ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com
> 
> Clinical Modelling Consultant, Ocean Informatics, UK Director openEHR
> Foundation  www.openehr.org/knowledge Honorary Senior Research
> Associate, CHIME, UCL SCIMP Working Group, NHS Scotland BCS Primary
> Health Care  www.phcsg.org
> 
> 
> On 7 January 2015 at 05:52, Heather Leslie
>  wrote:
> > Hi Sam,
> >
> >
> >
> > Can you please clarify what is happening to the existing Board. Is it
> > dissolving completely or are some members remaining or??
> >
> >
> >
> > It seems that at least some are renominating.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> >
> > Heather
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: openEHR-clinical
> > [mailto:openehr-clinical-bounces at lists.openehr.org]
> > On Behalf Of sam.heard at openehrfoundation.org
> > Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2015 7:23 AM
> > To: For openEHR technical discussions; For openEHR clinical
> > discussions
> > Subject: Re: [openEHR-announce] Extension of nominations 31 Jan 2015 -
> > and join up now.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi All and Happy New Year
> >
> >
> >
> > Apologies for being away and not getting to this sooner. I am a full
> > time clinician at present! Due to limited resources within the
> > Foundation we have utilised the WildApricot software to manage our
> > initial membership, nomination and voting process. We have  used the
> > ?event registration? to accept nominations which may have caused some
> > confusion. Koray Atalag, Pablo Pazos and Ian Mc Nicoll have editing access 
> > to
> this site.
> >
> >
> >
> > The process is to join at http://members.openehr.org, await approval
> > (built into the software), then go to the Nominations and Voting page.
> > You will then be asked to provide the name of a member (not a current
> > Board Member) supporting your nomination and give a brief Bio and
> statement of intent.
> >
> >
> >
> > We are seeking nominations for 2 individual member positions on the
> > Management Board and for 2 Industry Partner nominees. At present we
> > have 4 nominations for the Individual Membership representatives:
> >
> > Shinju Kobayashi
> >
> > Silje Ljosland Bakke
> >
> > Ian McNicoll
> >
> > Diego Bosca Thomas
> >
> >
> >
> > This list is now public. The software adds the possibility to restrict
> > view (uneditable).
> >
> >
> >
> > There are no nominations for the Industry Partner representatives as yet.
> >
> >
> >
> > It is not possible to nominate another person. Nominees must be
> > members, must complete the registration and their supporting member
> > must be an active member. Active members are visible to all members
> > under Contacts > Directory.
> >
> >
> >
> > I undertake to send out this list on a weekly basis during January.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hope this helps. We are, through this process, getting funds to launch
> > openEHR as an operational organisation. The software is not ideal but
> > at least we have a registration space and it links to PayPal so we
> > have a manageable situation. I certainly hope we will do better in the
> > future. I have attempted to answer as many of Erik?s points as
> > possible. If you want someone to stand for election to the Board,
> > please approach them and ask them to nominate.
> >
> >
> >
> >

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[Ian McNicoll]

Hi Heather,

The existing Board will be dissolved. The current interim Board
members will remain as legal Company members/directors in line with UK
not-for-profit company law until after the new Board is elected after
which the legal Company membership will also change and a number of
the existing Company Members will stand down.

Ian


Dr Ian McNicoll
office +44 (0)1536 414 994
fax +44 (0)1536 516317
mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859
skype ianmcnicoll
ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com

Clinical Modelling Consultant, Ocean Informatics, UK
Director openEHR Foundation  www.openehr.org/knowledge
Honorary Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL
SCIMP Working Group, NHS Scotland
BCS Primary Health Care  www.phcsg.org


On 7 January 2015 at 05:52, Heather Leslie
 wrote:
> Hi Sam,
>
>
>
> Can you please clarify what is happening to the existing Board. Is it
> dissolving completely or are some members remaining or??
>
>
>
> It seems that at least some are renominating.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Heather
>
>
>
>
>
> From: openEHR-clinical [mailto:openehr-clinical-bounces at lists.openehr.org]
> On Behalf Of sam.heard at openehrfoundation.org
> Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2015 7:23 AM
> To: For openEHR technical discussions; For openEHR clinical discussions
> Subject: Re: [openEHR-announce] Extension of nominations 31 Jan 2015 - and
> join up now.
>
>
>
> Hi All and Happy New Year
>
>
>
> Apologies for being away and not getting to this sooner. I am a full time
> clinician at present! Due to limited resources within the Foundation we have
> utilised the WildApricot software to manage our initial membership,
> nomination and voting process. We have  used the ?event registration? to
> accept nominations which may have caused some confusion. Koray Atalag, Pablo
> Pazos and Ian Mc Nicoll have editing access to this site.
>
>
>
> The process is to join at http://members.openehr.org, await approval (built
> into the software), then go to the Nominations and Voting page. You will
> then be asked to provide the name of a member (not a current Board Member)
> supporting your nomination and give a brief Bio and statement of intent.
>
>
>
> We are seeking nominations for 2 individual member positions on the
> Management Board and for 2 Industry Partner nominees. At present we have 4
> nominations for the Individual Membership representatives:
>
> Shinju Kobayashi
>
> Silje Ljosland Bakke
>
> Ian McNicoll
>
> Diego Bosca Thomas
>
>
>
> This list is now public. The software adds the possibility to restrict view
> (uneditable).
>
>
>
> There are no nominations for the Industry Partner representatives as yet.
>
>
>
> It is not possible to nominate another person. Nominees must be members,
> must complete the registration and their supporting member must be an active
> member. Active members are visible to all members under Contacts >
> Directory.
>
>
>
> I undertake to send out this list on a weekly basis during January.
>
>
>
> Hope this helps. We are, through this process, getting funds to launch
> openEHR as an operational organisation. The software is not ideal but at
> least we have a registration space and it links to PayPal so we have a
> manageable situation. I certainly hope we will do better in the future. I
> have attempted to answer as many of Erik?s points as possible. If you want
> someone to stand for election to the Board, please approach them and ask
> them to nominate.
>
>
>
> Thank you for your patience.
>
>
>
> Cheers, Sam Heard
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Erik Sundvall
> Sent: ?Sunday?, ?28? ?December? ?2014 ?6?:?41? ?PM
> To: For openEHR technical discussions, For openEHR clinical discussions
>
>
>
> Hi and seasons greetings!
>
>
>
> I find the openEHR board nomination process a bit confusing and pretty
> different to what I am used to in other community settings.
>
>
>
> When joining as an openEHR individual member you first have to wait until
> your application has been approved, this might be logical in some ways, but
> it means you will need to remember to get back to the member site some days
> later and then do your nominations (a nomination dropout risk).
>
>
>
> Also you can not even view nominations without logging in. After logging in
> I did not find any list of members possible to nominate, but after
> navigating around a while I found these four nominations:
>
> - Bosca Tomas, Diego
> - McNicoll, Ian
> - Bakke, Silje Ljosland
> - Kobayashi, Shinji
>
> I guess these nice persons were nominated by individual members, I did not
> find any information regarding if industr

[openEHR-announce] Extension of nominations 31 Jan 2015 - and join up now.

[Heather Leslie]

Hi Sam,

Can you please clarify what is happening to the existing Board. Is it 
dissolving completely or are some members remaining or??

It seems that at least some are renominating.

Regards

Heather


From: openEHR-clinical [mailto:openehr-clinical-bounces at lists.openehr.org] 
On Behalf Of sam.he...@openehrfoundation.org
Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2015 7:23 AM
To: For openEHR technical discussions; For openEHR clinical discussions
Subject: Re: [openEHR-announce] Extension of nominations 31 Jan 2015 - and join 
up now.

Hi All and Happy New Year

Apologies for being away and not getting to this sooner. I am a full time 
clinician at present! Due to limited resources within the Foundation we have 
utilised the WildApricot software to manage our initial membership, nomination 
and voting process. We have  used the ?event registration? to accept 
nominations which may have caused some confusion. Koray Atalag, Pablo Pazos and 
Ian Mc Nicoll have editing access to this site.

The process is to join at http://members.openehr.org, await approval (built 
into the software), then go to the Nominations and Voting page. You will then 
be asked to provide the name of a member (not a current Board Member) 
supporting your nomination and give a brief Bio and statement of intent.

We are seeking nominations for 2 individual member positions on the Management 
Board and for 2 Industry Partner nominees. At present we have 4 nominations for 
the Individual Membership representatives:
Shinju Kobayashi
Silje Ljosland Bakke
Ian McNicoll
Diego Bosca Thomas

This list is now public. The software adds the possibility to restrict view 
(uneditable).

There are no nominations for the Industry Partner representatives as yet.

It is not possible to nominate another person. Nominees must be members, must 
complete the registration and their supporting member must be an active member. 
Active members are visible to all members under Contacts > Directory.

I undertake to send out this list on a weekly basis during January.

Hope this helps. We are, through this process, getting funds to launch openEHR 
as an operational organisation. The software is not ideal but at least we have 
a registration space and it links to PayPal so we have a manageable situation. 
I certainly hope we will do better in the future. I have attempted to answer as 
many of Erik?s points as possible. If you want someone to stand for election to 
the Board, please approach them and ask them to nominate.

Thank you for your patience.

Cheers, Sam Heard





From: Erik Sundvall<mailto:erik.sundv...@liu.se>
Sent: ?Sunday?, ?28? ?December? ?2014 ?6?:?41? ?PM
To: For openEHR technical discussions<mailto:openehr-technical at 
lists.openehr.org>, For openEHR clinical discussions<mailto:openehr-clinical at 
lists.openehr.org>

Hi and seasons greetings!

I find the openEHR board nomination process a bit confusing and pretty 
different to what I am used to in other community settings.

When joining as an openEHR individual member you first have to wait until your 
application has been approved, this might be logical in some ways, but it means 
you will need to remember to get back to the member site some days later and 
then do your nominations (a nomination dropout risk).

Also you can not even view nominations without logging in. After logging in I 
did not find any list of members possible to nominate, but after navigating 
around a while I found these four nominations:
- Bosca Tomas, Diego
- McNicoll, Ian
- Bakke, Silje Ljosland
- Kobayashi, Shinji
I guess these nice persons were nominated by individual members, I did not find 
any information regarding if industry members have nominated any candidates.

I did not find any information regarding if any of the current board members 
are considered already nominated or not (I guess not, since Ian is on the 
current board and has been nominated separately).

The strangest thing, unless I misunderstood the submission form:
The form is rigged primarily to nominate yourself, and it is optional to 
"Include name in list of event registrants" - does that mean that there may be 
people secretly nominated? Very strange at least from a Swedish 
community/NGO/volunteer-org perspective.

I would like to nominate Thomas Beale for example, can I do that? By replacing 
my own name that is pre-filled in the form I guess it is possible to nominate 
someone else but it is far from obvious from form-texts regarding "your 
nomination" etc.

In the community settings I am used to, the nominations are open so that any 
member can nominate any member, then the nominated persons are asked if they 
would accept a nomination or not, then there is a vote among the remaining 
nominated persons.

I would suggest some changes
- Listing all current nominations (including from both industry and individual 
members) without login requirement
- Allowing at least logged in members to see who else is a member (so t

[openEHR-announce] Extension of nominations 31 Jan 2015 - and join up now.

[Ian McNicoll]

Hi Erik,

Happy New Year.

I agree the list of current nominees and members should be made more
obvious- @Sam - is this possible?

I have no idea what is meant by 'include name in list of event
registrants'. There is certainly no other  'secret' list of nominees
and current Board members are not automatically nominated.

You are correct that self-nomination is expected. I am not sure that
it makes sense to nominate someone else since it would really require
that person's agreement in any case. They would need to be registered
members and would need to nominate themselves, provide a bio etc.

The nomination does need support from an existing Board member but
this is purely to prevent vexatious or spurious nominations. I would
certainly not expect a nomination to be rejected other than in highly
extreme circumstances, and I would personally be happy to support
anyone from the 'known' openEHR community, should they wish it.

I am not aware of any Industry group nominations so far but understand
that these are imminent.

I agree too that we should issue regular updates over the next weeks,
along with lists of current nominations - we need more!

Regards,

Ian
Dr Ian McNicoll
office +44 (0)1536 414 994
fax +44 (0)1536 516317
mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859
skype ianmcnicoll
ian.mcnicoll at oceaninformatics.com

Clinical Modelling Consultant, Ocean Informatics, UK
Director openEHR Foundation  www.openehr.org/knowledge
Honorary Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL
SCIMP Working Group, NHS Scotland
BCS Primary Health Care  www.phcsg.org


On 28 December 2014 at 09:11, Erik Sundvall  wrote:
> Hi and seasons greetings!
>
> I find the openEHR board nomination process a bit confusing and pretty
> different to what I am used to in other community settings.
>
> When joining as an openEHR individual member you first have to wait until
> your application has been approved, this might be logical in some ways, but
> it means you will need to remember to get back to the member site some days
> later and then do your nominations (a nomination dropout risk).
>
> Also you can not even view nominations without logging in. After logging in
> I did not find any list of members possible to nominate, but after
> navigating around a while I found these four nominations:
> - Bosca Tomas, Diego
> - McNicoll, Ian
> - Bakke, Silje Ljosland
> - Kobayashi, Shinji
>
> I guess these nice persons were nominated by individual members, I did not
> find any information regarding if industry members have nominated any
> candidates.
>
> I did not find any information regarding if any of the current board members
> are considered already nominated or not (I guess not, since Ian is on the
> current board and has been nominated separately).
>
> The strangest thing, unless I misunderstood the submission form:
> The form is rigged primarily to nominate yourself, and it is optional to
> "Include name in list of event registrants" - does that mean that there may
> be people secretly nominated? Very strange at least from a Swedish
> community/NGO/volunteer-org perspective.
>
> I would like to nominate Thomas Beale for example, can I do that? By
> replacing my own name that is pre-filled in the form I guess it is possible
> to nominate someone else but it is far from obvious from form-texts
> regarding "your nomination" etc.
>
> In the community settings I am used to, the nominations are open so that any
> member can nominate any member, then the nominated persons are asked if they
> would accept a nomination or not, then there is a vote among the remaining
> nominated persons.
>
> I would suggest some changes
> - Listing all current nominations (including from both industry and
> individual members) without login requirement
> - Allowing at least logged in members to see who else is a member (so that
> we know who can be nominated and can encourage people to become members if
> they are not listed)
> - Making it possible to nominate other people than yourself
> - Clarifying if anybody not on the visible nomination list is considered to
> be nominated
> - Send out nomination reminders regularly (perhaps including a list of the
> then nominated persons)
>
> Best regards,
> Erik Sundvall
>
> Ph.D. Medical Informatics. Information Architect. Tel: +46-72-524 54 55 (or
> 010-1036252 in Sweden)
> Li?: erik.sundvall at regionostergotland.se (lio.se changing name 1 Jan 2015)
> LiU: erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 12:58 AM,  wrote:
>>
>> Happy Xmas everybody,
>>
>> Thank you to the new members and Industry Partners that have joined up so
>> far. We have three nominations for the Management Board at this stage. Two
>> of the companies have asked for an extension for the joining date to allow
>> transition to the new Calendar year.
>>
>> The Board considered their request at the last Board meeting and agreed.
>> Consequently the closure date for nominations has been extended to the 31
>> Jan 2015.
>>
>> Please join up b

[openEHR-announce] Extension of nominations 31 Jan 2015 - and join up now.

[Erik Sundvall]

Hi and seasons greetings!

I find the openEHR board nomination process a bit confusing and pretty
different to what I am used to in other community settings.

When joining as an openEHR individual member you first have to wait until
your application has been approved, this might be logical in some ways, but
it means you will need to remember to get back to the member site some days
later and then do your nominations (a nomination dropout risk).

Also you can not even view nominations without logging in. After logging in
I did not find any list of members possible to nominate, but after
navigating around a while I found these four nominations:
- Bosca Tomas, Diego
- McNicoll, Ian
- Bakke, Silje Ljosland
- Kobayashi, Shinji

I guess these nice persons were nominated by individual members, I did not
find any information regarding if industry members have nominated any
candidates.

I did not find any information regarding if any of the current board
members are considered already nominated or not (I guess not, since Ian is
on the current board and has been nominated separately).

The strangest thing, unless I misunderstood the submission form:
The form is rigged primarily to nominate yourself, and it is optional
to "Include
name in list of event registrants" - does that mean that there may be
people secretly nominated? Very strange at least from a Swedish
community/NGO/volunteer-org perspective.

I would like to nominate Thomas Beale for example, can I do that? By
replacing my own name that is pre-filled in the form I guess it is possible
to nominate someone else but it is far from obvious from form-texts
regarding "your nomination" etc.

In the community settings I am used to, the nominations are open so that
any member can nominate any member, then the nominated persons are asked if
they would accept a nomination or not, then there is a vote among the
remaining nominated persons.

I would suggest some changes
- Listing all current nominations (including from both industry and
individual members) without login requirement
- Allowing at least logged in members to see who else is a member (so that
we know who can be nominated and can encourage people to become members if
they are not listed)
- Making it possible to nominate other people than yourself
- Clarifying if anybody not on the visible nomination list is considered to
be nominated
- Send out nomination reminders regularly (perhaps including a list of the
then nominated persons)

Best regards,
Erik Sundvall

Ph.D. Medical Informatics. Information Architect. Tel: +46-72-524 54 55 (or
010-1036252 in Sweden)
Li?: erik.sundvall at regionostergotland.se (lio.se changing name 1 Jan 2015)
LiU: erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/

On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 12:58 AM,  wrote:

>  Happy Xmas everybody,
>
> Thank you to the new members and Industry Partners that have joined up so
> far. We have three nominations for the Management Board at this stage. Two
> of the companies have asked for an extension for the joining date to allow
> transition to the new Calendar year.
>
> The Board considered their request at the last Board meeting and agreed.
> Consequently the closure date for nominations has been extended to the 31
> Jan 2015.
>
> Please join up by going to http://members.openehr.org We need a broad
> and representative group to vote for the Management Board. Your involvement
> is crucial. The funds also help us with the provision of some of the
> fundamentals (web site, CKM etc).
>
> Have a great break over Xmas but make sure you contribute to the MedInfo
> workshops by the middle of January. Keep an eye on the lists for details.
>
> Looking forward to working with you all in 2015!
>
> Cheers, Sam
>
> Dr Sam Heard
> Chairman, openEHR Foundation
>
>
> ___
> openEHR-announce mailing list
> openEHR-announce at lists.openehr.org
>
> http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-announce_lists.openehr.org
>
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[Timothy W. Cook]

As SDOs go, even IHTSDO and W3C are more open than this.

On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 7:11 AM, Erik Sundvall  wrote:

> Hi and seasons greetings!
>
> I find the openEHR board nomination process a bit confusing and pretty
> different to what I am used to in other community settings.
>
> When joining as an openEHR individual member you first have to wait until
> your application has been approved, this might be logical in some ways, but
> it means you will need to remember to get back to the member site some days
> later and then do your nominations (a nomination dropout risk).
>
> Also you can not even view nominations without logging in. After logging
> in I did not find any list of members possible to nominate, but after
> navigating around a while I found these four nominations:
> - Bosca Tomas, Diego
> - McNicoll, Ian
> - Bakke, Silje Ljosland
> - Kobayashi, Shinji
>
> I guess these nice persons were nominated by individual members, I did not
> find any information regarding if industry members have nominated any
> candidates.
>
> I did not find any information regarding if any of the current board
> members are considered already nominated or not (I guess not, since Ian is
> on the current board and has been nominated separately).
>
> The strangest thing, unless I misunderstood the submission form:
> The form is rigged primarily to nominate yourself, and it is optional to 
> "Include
> name in list of event registrants" - does that mean that there may be
> people secretly nominated? Very strange at least from a Swedish
> community/NGO/volunteer-org perspective.
>
> I would like to nominate Thomas Beale for example, can I do that? By
> replacing my own name that is pre-filled in the form I guess it is possible
> to nominate someone else but it is far from obvious from form-texts
> regarding "your nomination" etc.
>
> In the community settings I am used to, the nominations are open so that
> any member can nominate any member, then the nominated persons are asked if
> they would accept a nomination or not, then there is a vote among the
> remaining nominated persons.
>
> I would suggest some changes
> - Listing all current nominations (including from both industry and
> individual members) without login requirement
> - Allowing at least logged in members to see who else is a member (so that
> we know who can be nominated and can encourage people to become members if
> they are not listed)
> - Making it possible to nominate other people than yourself
> - Clarifying if anybody not on the visible nomination list is considered
> to be nominated
> - Send out nomination reminders regularly (perhaps including a list of the
> then nominated persons)
>
> Best regards,
> Erik Sundvall
>
> Ph.D. Medical Informatics. Information Architect. Tel: +46-72-524 54 55
> (or 010-1036252 in Sweden)
> Li?: erik.sundvall at regionostergotland.se (lio.se changing name 1 Jan 2015)
> LiU: erik.sundvall at liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/
>
> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 12:58 AM,  wrote:
>
>>  Happy Xmas everybody,
>>
>> Thank you to the new members and Industry Partners that have joined up so
>> far. We have three nominations for the Management Board at this stage. Two
>> of the companies have asked for an extension for the joining date to allow
>> transition to the new Calendar year.
>>
>> The Board considered their request at the last Board meeting and agreed.
>> Consequently the closure date for nominations has been extended to the 31
>> Jan 2015.
>>
>> Please join up by going to http://members.openehr.org We need a broad
>> and representative group to vote for the Management Board. Your involvement
>> is crucial. The funds also help us with the provision of some of the
>> fundamentals (web site, CKM etc).
>>
>> Have a great break over Xmas but make sure you contribute to the MedInfo
>> workshops by the middle of January. Keep an eye on the lists for details.
>>
>> Looking forward to working with you all in 2015!
>>
>> Cheers, Sam
>>
>> Dr Sam Heard
>> Chairman, openEHR Foundation
>>
>>
>> ___
>> openEHR-announce mailing list
>> openEHR-announce at lists.openehr.org
>>
>> http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-announce_lists.openehr.org
>>
>
>
> ___
> openEHR-technical mailing list
> openEHR-technical at lists.openehr.org
>
> http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org
>



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