The Reality.......Re: informal poll: openEHR conference

2009-12-03 Thread Dra Carola Hullin Lucay Cossio

Dear All,

 

I believe the following point and I strongly encourage ACTION as soon as 
possible:

 


Governance of openEHR is not clear to all the community
Communication with all members is broad and requires some leadership
The foundation lidership group sits in few people and the process to select 
them is not explicit
Example of Medinfo 2010 collaboration can be used to avoid confusion
At present ocean informatics is seem to be the leader in the market and it is a 
good thing. At the same time the foundation should guide its members to the 
health sector and encourage competition
The members are volunteer and need some incentives to keep collaborating : 
trust is a good thing.
We need leadership space where anyone can participate with a democratic 
guidelines
The first congress of openEHR should be somewhere where the members are closed 
by. It is bad luck for us in the south * since the attendance will be low due 
to funding sources, but the foundation should provide some funding to people 
like TIm and others working so hard alone and in the limited resources 
environments. 
 

 

I encourange strongly an annual meeting and allow new members to engage. At 
present the knowledge sits with the founders and maner to transfer to society 
remains uncertan due to the lack of resources. Government wants to engage with 
openEHR but the mechanism remains unclear.

 

 

Cheers Carol

 



Dr. Carola Hullin Lucay Cossio 

Santiago Chile
Melbourne- Australia




 
 Subject: Re: The Reality...Re: informal poll: openEHR conference
 From: timothywayne.cook at gmail.com
 To: openehr-technical at chime.ucl.ac.uk
 Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 17:28:23 -0200
 
 Only my suggestio. 
 
 I have nothing else to say on the matter. 
 
 If it is not in SA; I will not attend w/o funding.
 
 The life of a lone consultant prevails :-)
 
 --Tim
 
 
 
 
 On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 19:00 +, Thomas Beale wrote:
  
  Brazil entered my mind as well. But I had not thought of going that
  far away from Rio  SP; but you are right - if you look on the map, it
  is not too many hours flight from east coast US or most of Europe. The
  down side seems to be that there are no direct flights from London,
  which probably means the same for most other European countries ; only
  Lisbon has direct flights. But it does seem like an interesting
  candidate location.
  
  - thomas
  
  Tim Cook wrote: 
   On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 01:01 +0900, Vanna wrote:
   
   I swore I wasn't going to respond to this; but.
   
   While most of openEHR is Euro-centric. The reality is that the most
   obvious place ( outside of Asia) is to hold it in Natal, BR
   http://preview.tinyurl.com/3w54c
   
   It is close to everywhere (in relative terms) It is beautiful; year
   round.
   
   From hiking to scuba you can enjoy.
   
   I've enjoyed Stockholm, Amsterdam and many other places. But they are so
   often weather dependent.
   
   Natal is closest to Africa/Europe in the Americas. It's not AS green of
   a trip as Tom wants. But are we really talking about a global
   community? 
   
   Okay, we have a great opensource community (by law) here.
   
   Google FISL and PythonBrasil...
   
   Has YOUR President ever spoke at a free software conference?
   
   
   --Tim
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
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informal poll: openEHR conference

2009-12-02 Thread Rong Chen
How about Stockholm? Close to nature (nice lakes etc) and good railway
systems, plus a quite bit openEHR use here =)

Cheers,
Rong

2009/12/2 Thilo Schuler thilo.schuler at gmail.com:
 I like VB, but the trains are not very reliable... ;)

 On 12/2/09, Hugh Leslie hugh.leslie at oceaninformatics.com wrote:
 I was thinking Melbourne...? We have good beer here and we are not far from
 a train station...
 :)

 On 2/12/2009 9:25 AM, Ian McNicoll wrote:

 Central Europe (and beer) sounds a good match to me :-)

 Certainly Amsterdam would be good from the perspective of easy transport.

 Ian

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 2009/12/1 Thilo Schuler thilo.schuler at gmail.com

 +2 Amsterdam or anywhere in central EU is fine.

 I am a strong believer in social activities. They could even involve
 beer... ;)

 Cheers (what else could I say but this universal word)
 -thilo

 On 12/1/09, Stef Verlinden stef at vivici.nl wrote:
  +1 (but any other location where we can have both a good meeting and a
  good social event will do). I like the train suggestion.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Stef
 
 
  Op 29 nov 2009, om 00:49 heeft Koray Atalag het volgende geschreven:
 
  Hi Tom, having such a social get together would be very niceI'd
  vote for Amsterdam :)
 
  Cheers,
 
  -koray
  
  From: openehr-technical-bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk [openehr-technical-
  bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Thomas Beale
  [thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com]
  Sent: Sunday, 29 November 2009 8:57 a.m.
  To: For openEHR technical discussions
  Subject: Re: informal poll: openEHR conference
 
  I forgot to mention: personally I would like it to be an
  environmentally conscious event (in as much as any conference could
  be), and one thing I would at least try for is a destination that
  allow many people to go by train rather than by plane. Sam and I
  once did London - Maastricht (which by the way is also a good
  location) on the train in 7.5h (1.5h wait in Brussels) compared to
  what we calculated as 5h by plane. But we got 6h work done, and 1h
  drinking Belgian beer. I consider that a successful journey. Of
  course not much can be done about long haul flying from the US and
  down-under.
 
  Another priority for me would be the idea that it would not repeat
  every few months like standards meetings, maybe not even every year
  (a bi-annual event maybe?) - so we could afford to spend some time
  together as a community. Also, I would put as much value on the
  networking and social side of things as on the 'business of openEHR'
  - which means finding a nice destination, one that works perfectly
  well if people want to have a holiday, with kids, partners etc.
 
  The cost might also be an important consideration for most people,
  although if it were say every 2 years, it may not matter as much as
  for standards meetings which just keep happening.
 
  these are just personal thoughts; it could only happen if enough
  people in the community would sign up to the idea to make it viable.
 
  - thomas beale
 
 
  Mikael Nystr?m wrote:
  I guess that the social activities would be quite important for the
  community and they are hard to organize on airports and train
  stations. I therefore vote for other locations than airports and
  train stations.
 
  ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Greetings,
  ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Mikael
 
 
  From:
  openehr-technical-bounces at 
  chime.ucl.ac.ukmailto:openehr-technical-bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk
 
   [mailto:openehr-technical-bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk] On Behalf Of
  Bert Verhees
  Sent: den 27 november 2009 17:38
  To: openehr-technical at openehr.orgmailto:openehr-
  technical at openehr.org
  Subject: Re: informal poll: openEHR conference
 
  An international airport/train station nearby would be good, it
  saves days of traveling.
 
  Bert
 
  Op 27-11-09 17:25, Thomas Beale schreef:
 
  This is an initial informal question to the community about interest
  in an openEHR conference / meeting, probably initially located in
  Europe. Possibly activities:
 
  * ? presentations / papers on commercial  academic projects
  * ? technical working design sessions for major upcoming
  specifications
  * ? clinical modelling design sessions / presentations /
  discussions / debates
  * ? meetings aimed at making decisions about the running 
  governance of openEHR, enabling future organisational improvement
  * ? professional and academic networking activities
  * ? some purely social activities.
  purely as an example of a nice location at which social and outdoor
  activities can take place, Lake Bled in Slovenia has been suggested,
  of course there are many other wonderful locations. I have heard

informal poll: openEHR conference

2009-12-02 Thread demski
If we can't make it to Iceland, i'd like to go to Stockholm and see 
openEHR in action ;-)

brgds
Hans

Rong Chen schrieb:
 How about Stockholm? Close to nature (nice lakes etc) and good railway
 systems, plus a quite bit openEHR use here =)

 Cheers,
 Rong

   

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2009-12-02 Thread KOBAYASHI, Shinji
Although first place of the openEHR conference will be located in Europe,
we will bit the host of the second openEHR conference in Japan. Railways
are much reliable anywhere. We have good cuisine, good beer, sushi, sake,
safe city, and good technology. We can stream the conference via the
Internet.
But JPY is appriciating too rapid now. too bad for international
conference.
Otherwise, we had a seminar mainly about the openEHR. It gathered
more than 50 people and students in Japan from 9 countries.
http://openehr.jp/news/show/10
We would also like to have a pan-pacific meeting. 

-- 
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The Reality.......Re: informal poll: openEHR conference

2009-12-02 Thread Tim Cook
On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 01:01 +0900, Vanna wrote:

I swore I wasn't going to respond to this; but.

While most of openEHR is Euro-centric.   The reality is that the most
obvious place ( outside of Asia) is to hold it in Natal, BR
http://preview.tinyurl.com/3w54c

It is close to everywhere (in relative terms) It is beautiful; year
round.


informal poll: openEHR conference

2009-12-02 Thread Tim Cook
On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 14:40 +, Thomas Beale wrote:


Hm, okay...

BIG Picture here  (do we have everyone's attention) not just the US and
Western Europe?


The reality is that Europe nor North America is the center of the world.
Certainly population wise.  While as a native US Citizen and a retired
US Marine.  I believe that I have served my country and the democratic
free world well. Certainly; every single day with the weight upon my
heart that I was doing the RIGHT THING.

Some may not agree with that and I respect their opinions. But without
regard to religion and only humanitarian results.  I STAND BY MY
DECISIONS!

I spoke recently with Sam 
Heard and I am not sure where they 
(there was a closed door meeting) want to take the openEHR Foundation.

It **IS** clear to me that they are confused about
opensource/opencontent.   

**THEY** need to communicate with the community.   Not this one on one
crap meeting stuff.  

I'm frankly quite tired of it after almost 10 years.

I hope that you all can engage them and give them a CLUE!


--Tim







   
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2009-12-02 Thread Tim Cook
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 17:54 +0100, Rikard L?vstr?m wrote:
 Hi Tim,
 
 
 You sent us a tinyurl with just: javascript:void(0)
 

Well, see how well these Web 2.0 things work?  :-)


Here is the entire URL:

http://maps.google.com.br/maps?q=natal
+broe=utf-8rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:officialclient=firefox-aum=1ie=UTF-8hq=hnear=Natal+-+RNgl=brei=qZQWS6q6HZLOlAen_riRDwsa=Xoi=geocode_resultct=titleresnum=1ved=0CA8Q8gEwAA


If that doesn't workyou are all smart enough to Google Natal, Rio
Grandge do Norte, Brasil.

You'll figure it out.

If notwell, you are on the wrong mailing list anyway!!!  :-)

--Tim



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The Reality.......Re: informal poll: openEHR conference

2009-12-02 Thread Tim Cook
Only my suggestio. 

I have nothing else to say on the matter.  

If it is not in SA; I will not attend w/o funding.

The life of a lone consultant prevails  :-)

--Tim




On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 19:00 +, Thomas Beale wrote:
 
 Brazil entered my mind as well. But I had not thought of going that
 far away from Rio  SP; but you are right - if you look on the map, it
 is not too many hours flight from east coast US or most of Europe. The
 down side seems to be that there are no direct flights from London,
 which probably means the same for most other European countries ; only
 Lisbon has direct flights. But it does seem like an interesting
 candidate location.
 
 - thomas
 
 Tim Cook wrote: 
  On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 01:01 +0900, Vanna wrote:
  
  I swore I wasn't going to respond to this; but.
  
  While most of openEHR is Euro-centric.   The reality is that the most
  obvious place ( outside of Asia) is to hold it in Natal, BR
  http://preview.tinyurl.com/3w54c
  
  It is close to everywhere (in relative terms) It is beautiful; year
  round.
  
  From hiking to scuba you can enjoy.
  
  I've enjoyed Stockholm, Amsterdam and many other places. But they are so
  often weather dependent.
  
  Natal is closest to Africa/Europe in the Americas.  It's not AS green of
  a trip as Tom wants.  But are we really talking about a global
  community?  
  
  Okay, we have a great opensource community (by law) here.
  
  Google FISL and PythonBrasil...
  
  Has YOUR President ever spoke at a free software conference?
  
  
  --Tim
  
  
  
   
  
  
  

  
  
  
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2009-12-01 Thread Thilo Schuler
+2 Amsterdam or anywhere in central EU is fine.

I am a strong believer in social activities. They could even involve beer... ;)

Cheers (what else could I say but this universal word)
-thilo

On 12/1/09, Stef Verlinden stef at vivici.nl wrote:
 +1 (but any other location where we can have both a good meeting and a
 good social event will do). I like the train suggestion.

 Cheers,

 Stef


 Op 29 nov 2009, om 00:49 heeft Koray Atalag het volgende geschreven:

 Hi Tom, having such a social get together would be very niceI'd
 vote for Amsterdam :)

 Cheers,

 -koray
 
 From: openehr-technical-bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk [openehr-technical-
 bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Thomas Beale
 [thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com]
 Sent: Sunday, 29 November 2009 8:57 a.m.
 To: For openEHR technical discussions
 Subject: Re: informal poll: openEHR conference

 I forgot to mention: personally I would like it to be an
 environmentally conscious event (in as much as any conference could
 be), and one thing I would at least try for is a destination that
 allow many people to go by train rather than by plane. Sam and I
 once did London - Maastricht (which by the way is also a good
 location) on the train in 7.5h (1.5h wait in Brussels) compared to
 what we calculated as 5h by plane. But we got 6h work done, and 1h
 drinking Belgian beer. I consider that a successful journey. Of
 course not much can be done about long haul flying from the US and
 down-under.

 Another priority for me would be the idea that it would not repeat
 every few months like standards meetings, maybe not even every year
 (a bi-annual event maybe?) - so we could afford to spend some time
 together as a community. Also, I would put as much value on the
 networking and social side of things as on the 'business of openEHR'
 - which means finding a nice destination, one that works perfectly
 well if people want to have a holiday, with kids, partners etc.

 The cost might also be an important consideration for most people,
 although if it were say every 2 years, it may not matter as much as
 for standards meetings which just keep happening.

 these are just personal thoughts; it could only happen if enough
 people in the community would sign up to the idea to make it viable.

 - thomas beale


 Mikael Nystr?m wrote:
 I guess that the social activities would be quite important for the
 community and they are hard to organize on airports and train
 stations. I therefore vote for other locations than airports and
 train stations.

  Greetings,
  Mikael


 From:
 openehr-technical-bounces at 
 chime.ucl.ac.ukmailto:openehr-technical-bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk

  [mailto:openehr-technical-bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk] On Behalf Of
 Bert Verhees
 Sent: den 27 november 2009 17:38
 To: openehr-technical at openehr.orgmailto:openehr-
 technical at openehr.org
 Subject: Re: informal poll: openEHR conference

 An international airport/train station nearby would be good, it
 saves days of traveling.

 Bert

 Op 27-11-09 17:25, Thomas Beale schreef:

 This is an initial informal question to the community about interest
 in an openEHR conference / meeting, probably initially located in
 Europe. Possibly activities:

 *   presentations / papers on commercial  academic projects
 *   technical working design sessions for major upcoming
 specifications
 *   clinical modelling design sessions / presentations /
 discussions / debates
 *   meetings aimed at making decisions about the running 
 governance of openEHR, enabling future organisational improvement
 *   professional and academic networking activities
 *   some purely social activities.
 purely as an example of a nice location at which social and outdoor
 activities can take place, Lake Bled in Slovenia has been suggested,
 of course there are many other wonderful locations. I have heard
 many requests for a conference over the last few years, so I wonder
 what the reaction  interest of the community to this suggestion
 would be.

 - thomas beale








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informal poll: openEHR conference

2009-12-01 Thread Ian McNicoll
Central Europe (and beer) sounds a good match to me :-)

Certainly Amsterdam would be good from the perspective of easy transport.

Ian

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2009/12/1 Thilo Schuler thilo.schuler at gmail.com

 +2 Amsterdam or anywhere in central EU is fine.

 I am a strong believer in social activities. They could even involve
 beer... ;)

 Cheers (what else could I say but this universal word)
 -thilo

 On 12/1/09, Stef Verlinden stef at vivici.nl wrote:
  +1 (but any other location where we can have both a good meeting and a
  good social event will do). I like the train suggestion.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Stef
 
 
  Op 29 nov 2009, om 00:49 heeft Koray Atalag het volgende geschreven:
 
  Hi Tom, having such a social get together would be very niceI'd
  vote for Amsterdam :)
 
  Cheers,
 
  -koray
  
  From: openehr-technical-bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk [openehr-technical-
  bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Thomas Beale
  [thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com]
  Sent: Sunday, 29 November 2009 8:57 a.m.
  To: For openEHR technical discussions
  Subject: Re: informal poll: openEHR conference
 
  I forgot to mention: personally I would like it to be an
  environmentally conscious event (in as much as any conference could
  be), and one thing I would at least try for is a destination that
  allow many people to go by train rather than by plane. Sam and I
  once did London - Maastricht (which by the way is also a good
  location) on the train in 7.5h (1.5h wait in Brussels) compared to
  what we calculated as 5h by plane. But we got 6h work done, and 1h
  drinking Belgian beer. I consider that a successful journey. Of
  course not much can be done about long haul flying from the US and
  down-under.
 
  Another priority for me would be the idea that it would not repeat
  every few months like standards meetings, maybe not even every year
  (a bi-annual event maybe?) - so we could afford to spend some time
  together as a community. Also, I would put as much value on the
  networking and social side of things as on the 'business of openEHR'
  - which means finding a nice destination, one that works perfectly
  well if people want to have a holiday, with kids, partners etc.
 
  The cost might also be an important consideration for most people,
  although if it were say every 2 years, it may not matter as much as
  for standards meetings which just keep happening.
 
  these are just personal thoughts; it could only happen if enough
  people in the community would sign up to the idea to make it viable.
 
  - thomas beale
 
 
  Mikael Nystr?m wrote:
  I guess that the social activities would be quite important for the
  community and they are hard to organize on airports and train
  stations. I therefore vote for other locations than airports and
  train stations.
 
   Greetings,
   Mikael
 
 
  From:
  openehr-technical-bounces at chime.ucl.ac.ukmailto:
 openehr-technical-bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk
 
   [mailto:openehr-technical-bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk] On Behalf Of
  Bert Verhees
  Sent: den 27 november 2009 17:38
  To: openehr-technical at openehr.orgmailto:openehr-
  technical at openehr.org
  Subject: Re: informal poll: openEHR conference
 
  An international airport/train station nearby would be good, it
  saves days of traveling.
 
  Bert
 
  Op 27-11-09 17:25, Thomas Beale schreef:
 
  This is an initial informal question to the community about interest
  in an openEHR conference / meeting, probably initially located in
  Europe. Possibly activities:
 
  *   presentations / papers on commercial  academic projects
  *   technical working design sessions for major upcoming
  specifications
  *   clinical modelling design sessions / presentations /
  discussions / debates
  *   meetings aimed at making decisions about the running 
  governance of openEHR, enabling future organisational improvement
  *   professional and academic networking activities
  *   some purely social activities.
  purely as an example of a nice location at which social and outdoor
  activities can take place, Lake Bled in Slovenia has been suggested,
  of course there are many other wonderful locations. I have heard
  many requests for a conference over the last few years, so I wonder
  what the reaction  interest of the community to this suggestion
  would be.
 
  - thomas beale
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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informal poll: openEHR conference

2009-11-30 Thread Mikael Nyström
Hi,

 

We from Link?ping University are preliminary interested.

 

 Greetings,

 Mikael

 

 

From: openehr-technical-boun...@chime.ucl.ac.uk
[mailto:openehr-technical-bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Thomas Beale
Sent: den 27 november 2009 17:25
To: Openehr-Technical; For openEHR clinical discussions
Subject: informal poll: openEHR conference

 


This is an initial informal question to the community about interest in an
openEHR conference / meeting, probably initially located in Europe. Possibly
activities:

*   presentations / papers on commercial  academic projects
*   technical working design sessions for major upcoming specifications
*   clinical modelling design sessions / presentations / discussions /
debates
*   meetings aimed at making decisions about the running  governance of
openEHR, enabling future organisational improvement
*   professional and academic networking activities
*   some purely social activities.

purely as an example of a nice location at which social and outdoor
activities can take place, Lake Bled in Slovenia has been suggested, of
course there are many other wonderful locations. I have heard many requests
for a conference over the last few years, so I wonder what the reaction 
interest of the community to this suggestion would be.

- thomas beale



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2009-11-30 Thread Tim Cook
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 16:25 +, Thomas Beale wrote:
 
 This is an initial informal question to the community about interest
 in an openEHR conference / meeting, probably initially located in
 Europe. 

Having something like this just before or just following an existing
health informatics related conference in the same or very nearby
location; saves time and money as well as possibly attracting new
attendees.

--Tim

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2009-11-30 Thread Tim Cook
On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 13:41 +, Thomas Beale wrote:
  For the web/video thing - I used to be in favour of this, but it has
 been used in the last 2 IHTSDO conferences (good on them for having a
 go), and it failed miserably 

But streaming it live / recording it is still helpful and not
disruptive.

 
 I wonder if there is some kind of global conference calendar, where we
 can see all conferences in e-health for the next 12 months?

http://www.hiww.org/  I think is as close as you get to that kind of
resource.

--Tim



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informal poll: openEHR conference

2009-11-30 Thread Seref Arikan
Even if this is slightly off topic considering the original post that
started this topic, I'd like to suggest another alternative to
streaming/phone calls etc.
http://videolectures.net/ is a fantastic source of information with video
recordings of key academic events. Instead of streaming which would require
a lot of effort  infrastructure, if we can simply record the event, we can
submit it to videolectures (I can't see any reason for them to reject).
Total cost is just tri-pod and a camera, and some work on slides and
captured video, which can take place after the event.
My 2 cents...

Kind regards
Seref



On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Tim Cook timothywayne.cook at gmail.comwrote:

 On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 13:41 +, Thomas Beale wrote:
   For the web/video thing - I used to be in favour of this, but it has
  been used in the last 2 IHTSDO conferences (good on them for having a
  go), and it failed miserably

 But streaming it live / recording it is still helpful and not
 disruptive.

 
  I wonder if there is some kind of global conference calendar, where we
  can see all conferences in e-health for the next 12 months?

 http://www.hiww.org/  I think is as close as you get to that kind of
 resource.

 --Tim




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2009-11-29 Thread Koray Atalag
Hi Tom, having such a social get together would be very niceI'd vote for 
Amsterdam :)

Cheers,

-koray

From: openehr-technical-bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk [openehr-technical-bounces 
at chime.ucl.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Thomas Beale 
[thomas.be...@oceaninformatics.com]
Sent: Sunday, 29 November 2009 8:57 a.m.
To: For openEHR technical discussions
Subject: Re: informal poll: openEHR conference

I forgot to mention: personally I would like it to be an environmentally 
conscious event (in as much as any conference could be), and one thing I would 
at least try for is a destination that allow many people to go by train rather 
than by plane. Sam and I once did London - Maastricht (which by the way is also 
a good location) on the train in 7.5h (1.5h wait in Brussels) compared to what 
we calculated as 5h by plane. But we got 6h work done, and 1h drinking Belgian 
beer. I consider that a successful journey. Of course not much can be done 
about long haul flying from the US and down-under.

Another priority for me would be the idea that it would not repeat every few 
months like standards meetings, maybe not even every year (a bi-annual event 
maybe?) - so we could afford to spend some time together as a community. Also, 
I would put as much value on the networking and social side of things as on the 
'business of openEHR' - which means finding a nice destination, one that works 
perfectly well if people want to have a holiday, with kids, partners etc.

The cost might also be an important consideration for most people, although if 
it were say every 2 years, it may not matter as much as for standards meetings 
which just keep happening.

these are just personal thoughts; it could only happen if enough people in the 
community would sign up to the idea to make it viable.

- thomas beale


Mikael Nystr?m wrote:
I guess that the social activities would be quite important for the community 
and they are hard to organize on airports and train stations. I therefore vote 
for other locations than airports and train stations.

  Greetings,
  Mikael


From: openehr-technical-bounces at 
chime.ucl.ac.ukmailto:openehr-technical-bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk 
[mailto:openehr-technical-boun...@chime.ucl.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Bert Verhees
Sent: den 27 november 2009 17:38
To: openehr-technical at openehr.orgmailto:openehr-technical at openehr.org
Subject: Re: informal poll: openEHR conference

An international airport/train station nearby would be good, it saves days of 
traveling.

Bert

Op 27-11-09 17:25, Thomas Beale schreef:

This is an initial informal question to the community about interest in an 
openEHR conference / meeting, probably initially located in Europe. Possibly 
activities:

 *   presentations / papers on commercial  academic projects
 *   technical working design sessions for major upcoming specifications
 *   clinical modelling design sessions / presentations / discussions / debates
 *   meetings aimed at making decisions about the running  governance of 
openEHR, enabling future organisational improvement
 *   professional and academic networking activities
 *   some purely social activities.
purely as an example of a nice location at which social and outdoor activities 
can take place, Lake Bled in Slovenia has been suggested, of course there are 
many other wonderful locations. I have heard many requests for a conference 
over the last few years, so I wonder what the reaction  interest of the 
community to this suggestion would be.

- thomas beale








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informal poll: openEHR conference

2009-11-29 Thread Bert Verhees
If it will be Amsterdam, I might throw a party with good food, beer, 
wine and non-alcoholic-drinks, I live 10km from Amsterdam, every hour 
four trains to the village I live.

But I agree with other possibilities too, if it is not too far from 
Amsterdam, within Europe is OK for me (best near a town).

regards,
Bert


Koray Atalag schreef:
 Hi Tom, having such a social get together would be very niceI'd vote for 
 Amsterdam :)

 Cheers,

 -koray
 
 From: openehr-technical-bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk [openehr-technical-bounces 
 at chime.ucl.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Thomas Beale [thomas.beale at 
 oceaninformatics.com]
 Sent: Sunday, 29 November 2009 8:57 a.m.
 To: For openEHR technical discussions
 Subject: Re: informal poll: openEHR conference

 I forgot to mention: personally I would like it to be an environmentally 
 conscious event (in as much as any conference could be), and one thing I 
 would at least try for is a destination that allow many people to go by train 
 rather than by plane. Sam and I once did London - Maastricht (which by the 
 way is also a good location) on the train in 7.5h (1.5h wait in Brussels) 
 compared to what we calculated as 5h by plane. But we got 6h work done, and 
 1h drinking Belgian beer. I consider that a successful journey. Of course not 
 much can be done about long haul flying from the US and down-under.

 Another priority for me would be the idea that it would not repeat every few 
 months like standards meetings, maybe not even every year (a bi-annual event 
 maybe?) - so we could afford to spend some time together as a community. 
 Also, I would put as much value on the networking and social side of things 
 as on the 'business of openEHR' - which means finding a nice destination, one 
 that works perfectly well if people want to have a holiday, with kids, 
 partners etc.

 The cost might also be an important consideration for most people, although 
 if it were say every 2 years, it may not matter as much as for standards 
 meetings which just keep happening.

 these are just personal thoughts; it could only happen if enough people in 
 the community would sign up to the idea to make it viable.

 - thomas beale


 Mikael Nystr?m wrote:
 I guess that the social activities would be quite important for the community 
 and they are hard to organize on airports and train stations. I therefore 
 vote for other locations than airports and train stations.

   Greetings,
   Mikael


 From: openehr-technical-bounces at 
 chime.ucl.ac.ukmailto:openehr-technical-bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk 
 [mailto:openehr-technical-bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Bert 
 Verhees
 Sent: den 27 november 2009 17:38
 To: openehr-technical at openehr.orgmailto:openehr-technical at openehr.org
 Subject: Re: informal poll: openEHR conference

 An international airport/train station nearby would be good, it saves days of 
 traveling.

 Bert

 Op 27-11-09 17:25, Thomas Beale schreef:

 This is an initial informal question to the community about interest in an 
 openEHR conference / meeting, probably initially located in Europe. Possibly 
 activities:

  *   presentations / papers on commercial  academic projects
  *   technical working design sessions for major upcoming specifications
  *   clinical modelling design sessions / presentations / discussions / 
 debates
  *   meetings aimed at making decisions about the running  governance of 
 openEHR, enabling future organisational improvement
  *   professional and academic networking activities
  *   some purely social activities.
 purely as an example of a nice location at which social and outdoor 
 activities can take place, Lake Bled in Slovenia has been suggested, of 
 course there are many other wonderful locations. I have heard many requests 
 for a conference over the last few years, so I wonder what the reaction  
 interest of the community to this suggestion would be.

 - thomas beale








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 Honorary Research Fellow, University College 
 Londonhttp://www.chime.ucl.ac.uk/
 Chartered IT Professional Fellow, BCS, British Computer 
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2009-11-27 Thread Thomas Beale
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informal poll: openEHR conference

2009-11-27 Thread Anton Brass
Thomas Beale schrieb:

 This is an initial informal question to the community about interest 
 in an openEHR conference / meeting, probably initially located in 
 Europe. Possibly activities:

 * presentations / papers on commercial  academic projects
 * technical working design sessions for major upcoming specifications
 * clinical modelling design sessions / presentations / discussions
   / debates
 * meetings aimed at making decisions about the running 
   governance of openEHR, enabling future organisational improvement
 * professional and academic networking activities
 * some purely social activities.

 purely as an example of a nice location at which social and outdoor 
 activities can take place, Lake Bled in Slovenia has been suggested, 
 of course there are many other wonderful locations. I have heard many 
 requests for a conference over the last few years, so I wonder what 
 the reaction  interest of the community to this suggestion would be.

 - thomas beale


Hey there,

this is a great idea!

Best regards from Munich

Anton Brass
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2009-11-27 Thread Mikael Nyström
I guess that the social activities would be quite important for the
community and they are hard to organize on airports and train stations. I
therefore vote for other locations than airports and train stations.

 

  Greetings,

  Mikael

 

 

From: openehr-technical-boun...@chime.ucl.ac.uk
[mailto:openehr-technical-bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Bert Verhees
Sent: den 27 november 2009 17:38
To: openehr-technical at openehr.org
Subject: Re: informal poll: openEHR conference

 

An international airport/train station nearby would be good, it saves days
of traveling.

Bert

Op 27-11-09 17:25, Thomas Beale schreef: 


This is an initial informal question to the community about interest in an
openEHR conference / meeting, probably initially located in Europe. Possibly
activities:

*   presentations / papers on commercial  academic projects
*   technical working design sessions for major upcoming specifications
*   clinical modelling design sessions / presentations / discussions /
debates
*   meetings aimed at making decisions about the running  governance of
openEHR, enabling future organisational improvement
*   professional and academic networking activities
*   some purely social activities.

purely as an example of a nice location at which social and outdoor
activities can take place, Lake Bled in Slovenia has been suggested, of
course there are many other wonderful locations. I have heard many requests
for a conference over the last few years, so I wonder what the reaction 
interest of the community to this suggestion would be.

- thomas beale





 
 
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2009-11-27 Thread Kavanagh Richard (NHS Connecting for Health)
Hi Thomas.

I think a conference would be a useful mechanism for the community to meet and 
share ideas/experiences. It would get my vote.

Regards,
Richard Kavanagh

From: openehr-technical-bounces at chime.ucl.ac.uk 
[mailto:openehr-technical-boun...@chime.ucl.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Thomas Beale
Sent: 27 November 2009 16:25
To: Openehr-Technical; For openEHR clinical discussions
Subject: informal poll: openEHR conference


This is an initial informal question to the community about interest in an 
openEHR conference / meeting, probably initially located in Europe. Possibly 
activities:

 *   presentations / papers on commercial  academic projects
 *   technical working design sessions for major upcoming specifications
 *   clinical modelling design sessions / presentations / discussions / debates
 *   meetings aimed at making decisions about the running  governance of 
openEHR, enabling future organisational improvement
 *   professional and academic networking activities
 *   some purely social activities.
purely as an example of a nice location at which social and outdoor activities 
can take place, Lake Bled in Slovenia has been suggested, of course there are 
many other wonderful locations. I have heard many requests for a conference 
over the last few years, so I wonder what the reaction  interest of the 
community to this suggestion would be.

- thomas beale




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