[OpenIndiana-discuss] Studio future in OI (Re: [oi-dev] )
On 10/ 9/13 08:45 PM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: On 10/09/2013 20:28, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: I was looking at different php packages. It seems that currently php-idn upstream is dead. There are several patches (for example, used in Fedora) which allow it to be built with php 5.4. However, some icu functions were moved to intl PHP extension. To enable this extension we need to recompile icu with G++. This is C++ library, so it will certainly have incompatible ABI. However, it seems that this library does not have consumers in our repositories. So, we can deliver it in /usr. Any objections/ suggestions? So, one suggestion is to ship icu library to /usr/g++ (including icu-config in /usr/g++/bin). I dislike it. :) The other idea is as we currently don't have internal icu consumers just to ship it into /usr. But this is a good idea only if we are ready to rip Studio support. Are we agree on this? Just a sec. (I am sorry but don't understand why new topics like this are not top-posted by posters) Does this means that Sun Studio / Oracle studio will not be able to run on Openindiana after this change? So it is intentional breaking compatibiliy with Studio or including all software compiled with Studio? Are you willing to have distribution that does not have Firefox ported for it? Since I know that current Firefox and Thunderbird are compiled with Studio. And since there are plans for Firefox in some time be compiled on Openindiana with Studio (Oracle is making patches to Firefox to be able to run on Opensolaris, and works for Openindiana) , we could cut the way of compiling Firefox, Thunderbird and other software that used to compile with Studio? There are plans from Oracle people compiling Mozilla products to switch to GCC for C++, but does this changes means that we are isolating ourselfs from Studio compiler and programs compiles with it and force everyone not to use Studio on Openindiana? Or it just will make all software compiled with Studio for Solaris, not being able to run on Openindiana (Virtualbox, Firefox, Thunderbird and all other commercial software and open repositories in the wild?) I would not like to loose ability to run Studio on Openindiana or studio compiled programs. Maybe it became second option now but hey, it seems very strange to lost support for such a compiler even if it is closed source. N.M. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] iostat
do you have Enterprise grade disks in your machine? We saw a lot of %b and %w associated with Consumer Seagate disks ... not all the time, and not for over a year in production, but once it started happening across multiple servers we cottoned on pretty quickly. On 10 October 2013 21:39, jason matthews ja...@broken.net wrote: I am not sure when reporting zpool stats was introduced into iostat but i love it. however, i am not sure what to make of it. For instance, what does a wsvc time of 20 seconds tell me? seems like my queue is too big but that is not reflected in individual device statistics. in the case of zpools, is this some sort of reflection on transaction groups? can anyone explain why i see such large time associated with zpool in the iostat output? thanks, j. extended device statistics r/sw/sMr/s Mw/swait actv wsvc_t asvc_t %w %b device 0.0 3958.70.0 300.7 0.1 18.8 0.0 4.70 153 c3 0.0 11.8 0.00.1 0.0 0.00.0 0.6 0 0c3t55CD2E400012A66Cd0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t55CD2E400012B753d0 0.0 2679.70.0 149.1 0.1 9.90.0 3.75 80c3t50015178F36579E8d0 0.0 1267.20.0 151.5 0.0 8.80.0 7.03 73c3t50015178F3657B74d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t50015178F3657AECd0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t50015178F36579E1d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t50015178F3657B85d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t50015178F36579BAd0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t50015178F3657A05d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t50015178F36579FEd0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c5 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c5t4d0 0.0 3946.10.0 300.6 80582.9 26.2 20421.0 6.6 8889 data 0.0 11.60.00.1 0.0 0.01.10.8 0 0 rpool ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Studio future in OI (Re: [oi-dev] )
On 11/10/13 09:39, Nikola M. wrote: Does this means that Sun Studio / Oracle studio will not be able to run on Openindiana after this change? So it is intentional breaking compatibiliy with Studio or including all software compiled with Studio? Are you willing to have distribution that does not have Firefox ported for it? That's not related. Firefox might use C++, but its needed dependencies are all C, IIRC. So it can be built with either compiler. snip I would not like to loose ability to run Studio on Openindiana or studio compiled programs. Maybe it became second option now but hey, it seems very strange to lost support for such a compiler even if it is closed source. Studio itself has now introduced a G++ ABI compatibility switch. So having G++-built libs in /usr/lib should not be the issue it once was. http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E24457_01/html/E21991/bkana.html#bkanr Laurent ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [oi-dev] Studio future in OI (Re: )
On 11/10/13 11:47, Joerg Schilling wrote: The problem is that this doea not help you with existing binaries and it would be better if gcc would implement the stable studio interfaces instead it's own variable interfaces. Well, a switch is a switch. I've had to think about the issue in OpenCSW, so I think I'm reasonably aware of the issues involved. For something like OI which is still evolving and can provide a full switch in one «pkg update», it's a reasonable switch. Also, it's not like Studio is perfect in that aspect, Eg, you can use the defaut Cstd, which is old and crusty, or stlport4, or Apache stdcxx4, which are more standard-compliant - but binary incompatible (MySQL 5.6 defaults to stlport4 for the daemon). Finally, since Oracle seems to be planning to add the G++ ABI into Studio 12.4 sparc, it appears to be on the verge of becoming the de-facto standard. Reality check: having a vastly multiplatform standard is *good*, even if it was Not Invented Here. And the more people will invest in it, the less the GCC team will be inclined to change it (remember, it also annoys Red Hat, and everybody else who has to support a distro for more than a decade). Laurent ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [oi-dev] Studio future in OI (Re: )
On 11/10/13 14:02, Joerg Schilling wrote: I am not trying to discuss where it came from but whether it will be stable in the future. The last incompatible change was *11 years ago*, and it was a bug fix, it was not just because they like to break things. http://gcc.gnu.org/develop.html#timeline GCC follows a standard backed by some major names, they don't pull things out of their hats: http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/libstdc++/manual/abi.html Too bad that Sun was not there - but as it happens, some actually good standards were Not Invented By Sun and yet are useful. So I believe it's time to please let go the old grudges and accept that yes, GCC can have a stable standard ABI. Laurent ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] iostat
i would say so. they are 800gb intel dc s3700s j. Sent from Jasons' hand held On Oct 11, 2013, at 1:08 AM, Jonathan Adams t12nsloo...@gmail.com wrote: do you have Enterprise grade disks in your machine? We saw a lot of %b and %w associated with Consumer Seagate disks ... not all the time, and not for over a year in production, but once it started happening across multiple servers we cottoned on pretty quickly. On 10 October 2013 21:39, jason matthews ja...@broken.net wrote: I am not sure when reporting zpool stats was introduced into iostat but i love it. however, i am not sure what to make of it. For instance, what does a wsvc time of 20 seconds tell me? seems like my queue is too big but that is not reflected in individual device statistics. in the case of zpools, is this some sort of reflection on transaction groups? can anyone explain why i see such large time associated with zpool in the iostat output? thanks, j. extended device statistics r/sw/sMr/s Mw/swait actv wsvc_t asvc_t %w %b device 0.0 3958.70.0 300.7 0.1 18.8 0.0 4.70 153 c3 0.0 11.8 0.00.1 0.0 0.00.0 0.6 0 0c3t55CD2E400012A66Cd0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t55CD2E400012B753d0 0.0 2679.70.0 149.1 0.1 9.90.0 3.75 80c3t50015178F36579E8d0 0.0 1267.20.0 151.5 0.0 8.80.0 7.03 73c3t50015178F3657B74d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t50015178F3657AECd0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t50015178F36579E1d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t50015178F3657B85d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t50015178F36579BAd0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t50015178F3657A05d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t50015178F36579FEd0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c5 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c5t4d0 0.0 3946.10.0 300.6 80582.9 26.2 20421.0 6.6 8889 data 0.0 11.60.00.1 0.0 0.01.10.8 0 0 rpool ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [oi-dev] Studio future in OI (Re: )
On 11/10/2013 09:39, Nikola M. wrote: Does this means that Sun Studio / Oracle studio will not be able to run on Openindiana after this change? So it is intentional breaking compatibiliy with Studio or including all software compiled with Studio? ... I would not like to loose ability to run Studio on Openindiana or studio compiled programs. Maybe it became second option now but hey, it seems very strange to lost support for such a compiler even if it is closed source. This should not happen, this would kill us completely, we have commercial applications compiled with Sun Studio, and a lot of software that can't even be compiled with gcc-fortran, we use Sun Studio Fortran since it's way ahead in optimization, syntax, and correctness, and a couple of open source precompiled binaries that cannot be compiled easily without major efforts. So this isn't just a problem of having firefox and thunderbird. libicu is used in a couple of other libraries and applications, so this will break the one or others production chain. I don't see us changing from Sun Studio to gcc any time in the foreseable future because there's no real usable alternative for us, and surely not for others. So breaking support for the compiler and Studio compiled software completely is not an option. And, from pure ecological considerations, having a monoculture is not a good setup anyway (especially in the case of gcc...), if so, we should all move to Linux... But the main direction to go is to have the default system libraries compiled with gcc, that means, all pure C libraries can be exchanged relatively easily, but the C++ libraries have to be duplicated, because they can't be compatible by Standard's requirement. So the usual way to handle this is to put them in a separate path (like /usr/g++/ now on OI-SFE), and set a runpath or library_path for the applications that need it. Studio compiled binaries find their own compiler libraries inside /opt/sunstudio/, only external C++ requirements have to be handled this way. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] iostat
Ouch! they are _some_ drives ... do you have swap running on them? how much ram do you have in that machine? On 11 October 2013 16:44, Jason Matthews ja...@broken.net wrote: i would say so. they are 800gb intel dc s3700s j. Sent from Jasons' hand held On Oct 11, 2013, at 1:08 AM, Jonathan Adams t12nsloo...@gmail.com wrote: do you have Enterprise grade disks in your machine? We saw a lot of %b and %w associated with Consumer Seagate disks ... not all the time, and not for over a year in production, but once it started happening across multiple servers we cottoned on pretty quickly. On 10 October 2013 21:39, jason matthews ja...@broken.net wrote: I am not sure when reporting zpool stats was introduced into iostat but i love it. however, i am not sure what to make of it. For instance, what does a wsvc time of 20 seconds tell me? seems like my queue is too big but that is not reflected in individual device statistics. in the case of zpools, is this some sort of reflection on transaction groups? can anyone explain why i see such large time associated with zpool in the iostat output? thanks, j. extended device statistics r/sw/sMr/s Mw/swait actv wsvc_t asvc_t %w %b device 0.0 3958.70.0 300.7 0.1 18.8 0.0 4.70 153 c3 0.0 11.8 0.00.1 0.0 0.00.0 0.6 0 0c3t55CD2E400012A66Cd0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t55CD2E400012B753d0 0.0 2679.70.0 149.1 0.1 9.90.0 3.75 80c3t50015178F36579E8d0 0.0 1267.20.0 151.5 0.0 8.80.0 7.03 73c3t50015178F3657B74d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t50015178F3657AECd0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t50015178F36579E1d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t50015178F3657B85d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t50015178F36579BAd0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t50015178F3657A05d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t50015178F36579FEd0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c5 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c5t4d0 0.0 3946.10.0 300.6 80582.9 26.2 20421.0 6.6 8889 data 0.0 11.60.00.1 0.0 0.01.10.8 0 0 rpool ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] iostat
the system config is as follows: 4x 4650L, 576GB of RAM, 8x 800GB DC S3700 load balanced over 2x LSI 9207-8i there is no swap. i am only running filebench on the pool so far. j. On Oct 11, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Jonathan Adams t12nsloo...@gmail.com wrote: Ouch! they are _some_ drives ... do you have swap running on them? how much ram do you have in that machine? On 11 October 2013 16:44, Jason Matthews ja...@broken.net wrote: i would say so. they are 800gb intel dc s3700s j. Sent from Jasons' hand held On Oct 11, 2013, at 1:08 AM, Jonathan Adams t12nsloo...@gmail.com wrote: do you have Enterprise grade disks in your machine? We saw a lot of %b and %w associated with Consumer Seagate disks ... not all the time, and not for over a year in production, but once it started happening across multiple servers we cottoned on pretty quickly. On 10 October 2013 21:39, jason matthews ja...@broken.net wrote: I am not sure when reporting zpool stats was introduced into iostat but i love it. however, i am not sure what to make of it. For instance, what does a wsvc time of 20 seconds tell me? seems like my queue is too big but that is not reflected in individual device statistics. in the case of zpools, is this some sort of reflection on transaction groups? can anyone explain why i see such large time associated with zpool in the iostat output? thanks, j. extended device statistics r/sw/sMr/s Mw/swait actv wsvc_t asvc_t %w %b device 0.0 3958.70.0 300.7 0.1 18.8 0.0 4.70 153 c3 0.0 11.8 0.00.1 0.0 0.00.0 0.6 0 0c3t55CD2E400012A66Cd0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t55CD2E400012B753d0 0.0 2679.70.0 149.1 0.1 9.90.0 3.75 80c3t50015178F36579E8d0 0.0 1267.20.0 151.5 0.0 8.80.0 7.03 73c3t50015178F3657B74d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t50015178F3657AECd0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t50015178F36579E1d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t50015178F3657B85d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t50015178F36579BAd0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t50015178F3657A05d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t50015178F36579FEd0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c5 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c5t4d0 0.0 3946.10.0 300.6 80582.9 26.2 20421.0 6.6 8889 data 0.0 11.60.00.1 0.0 0.01.10.8 0 0 rpool ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Mplayer problem
Hi Milan, # pkg info mplayer pkg: info: no packages matching the following patterns you specified are installed on the system. Try specifying -r to query remotely: mplayer # more /etc/release OpenIndiana Development oi_151.1.8 X86 (powered by illumos) Copyright 2011 Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Use is subject to license terms. Assembled 19 February 2013 # pkg install mplayer Creating Plan - pkg install: No matching version of media/mplayer can be installed: Reject: pkg://sfe-encumbered/media/mplayer@1.1,5.11-0.151.1.5:20120818T211441Z Reason: All versions matching 'require' dependency pkg:/library/lzo@2.6,5.11-0.151.1 are rejected Reject: pkg://sfe/library/lzo@2.6,5.11-0.151.1:20111025T174618Z pkg://sfe/library/lzo@2.6,5.11-0.151.1.5:20120807T181521Z Reason: Higher ranked publisher openindiana.org was selected Reject: pkg://sfe-encumbered/media/mplayer@1.1,5.11-0.151.1.6:20120930T223145Z pkg://sfe-encumbered/media/mplayer@1.1,5.11-0.151.1.8:20130930T195946Z pkg://sfe-encumbered/media/mplayer@1.1,5.11-0.151.1.8:20130930T201848Z Reason: All versions matching 'require' dependency pkg:/library/lzo@2.6,5.11-0.151.1.5 are rejected Reject: pkg://sfe/library/lzo@2.6,5.11-0.151.1.5:20120807T181521Z Reason: Higher ranked publisher openindiana.org was selected # pkg uninstall mplayer Creating Plan pkg uninstall: 'mplayer' matches no installed packages ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] iostat
:( there really shouldn't be any problem with that system then ... do you have the latest firmware installed on the controller/drives? You'll need someone (other than me) with more dtrace experience to help any further. On 11 October 2013 19:43, jason matthews ja...@broken.net wrote: the system config is as follows: 4x 4650L, 576GB of RAM, 8x 800GB DC S3700 load balanced over 2x LSI 9207-8i there is no swap. i am only running filebench on the pool so far. j. On Oct 11, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Jonathan Adams t12nsloo...@gmail.com wrote: Ouch! they are _some_ drives ... do you have swap running on them? how much ram do you have in that machine? On 11 October 2013 16:44, Jason Matthews ja...@broken.net wrote: i would say so. they are 800gb intel dc s3700s j. Sent from Jasons' hand held On Oct 11, 2013, at 1:08 AM, Jonathan Adams t12nsloo...@gmail.com wrote: do you have Enterprise grade disks in your machine? We saw a lot of %b and %w associated with Consumer Seagate disks ... not all the time, and not for over a year in production, but once it started happening across multiple servers we cottoned on pretty quickly. On 10 October 2013 21:39, jason matthews ja...@broken.net wrote: I am not sure when reporting zpool stats was introduced into iostat but i love it. however, i am not sure what to make of it. For instance, what does a wsvc time of 20 seconds tell me? seems like my queue is too big but that is not reflected in individual device statistics. in the case of zpools, is this some sort of reflection on transaction groups? can anyone explain why i see such large time associated with zpool in the iostat output? thanks, j. extended device statistics r/sw/sMr/s Mw/swait actv wsvc_t asvc_t %w %b device 0.0 3958.70.0 300.7 0.1 18.8 0.0 4.70 153 c3 0.0 11.8 0.00.1 0.0 0.00.0 0.6 0 0c3t55CD2E400012A66Cd0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t55CD2E400012B753d0 0.0 2679.70.0 149.1 0.1 9.90.0 3.7 5 80c3t50015178F36579E8d0 0.0 1267.20.0 151.5 0.0 8.80.0 7.0 3 73c3t50015178F3657B74d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t50015178F3657AECd0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t50015178F36579E1d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t50015178F3657B85d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t50015178F36579BAd0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t50015178F3657A05d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c3t50015178F36579FEd0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c5 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 0c5t4d0 0.0 3946.10.0 300.6 80582.9 26.2 20421.0 6.6 8889 data 0.0 11.60.00.1 0.0 0.01.10.8 0 0 rpool ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Mplayer problem
Hi Russell, you are using hipster, aren't you? Well, I have no good solution for you here because hipster includes own lzo package which is in collision with SFE lzo package. And mplayer depends on SFE lzo. And mplayer2 is unbuildable for now, so I cannot fix mplayer2 to the next OI release. The only option on hipster is then gnome/media/gnome-media-extras for totem. SFE packages are built on OI. Probably somebody from hipster should take care of own SFE hipster builds. Best regards, Milan On pá, 2013-10-11 at 20:14 +0100, russell wrote: Hi Milan, # pkg info mplayer pkg: info: no packages matching the following patterns you specified are installed on the system. Try specifying -r to query remotely: mplayer # more /etc/release OpenIndiana Development oi_151.1.8 X86 (powered by illumos) Copyright 2011 Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Use is subject to license terms. Assembled 19 February 2013 # pkg install mplayer Creating Plan - pkg install: No matching version of media/mplayer can be installed: Reject: pkg://sfe-encumbered/media/mplayer@1.1,5.11-0.151.1.5:20120818T211441Z Reason: All versions matching 'require' dependency pkg:/library/lzo@2.6,5.11-0.151.1 are rejected Reject: pkg://sfe/library/lzo@2.6,5.11-0.151.1:20111025T174618Z pkg://sfe/library/lzo@2.6,5.11-0.151.1.5:20120807T181521Z Reason: Higher ranked publisher openindiana.org was selected Reject: pkg://sfe-encumbered/media/mplayer@1.1,5.11-0.151.1.6:20120930T223145Z pkg://sfe-encumbered/media/mplayer@1.1,5.11-0.151.1.8:20130930T195946Z pkg://sfe-encumbered/media/mplayer@1.1,5.11-0.151.1.8:20130930T201848Z Reason: All versions matching 'require' dependency pkg:/library/lzo@2.6,5.11-0.151.1.5 are rejected Reject: pkg://sfe/library/lzo@2.6,5.11-0.151.1.5:20120807T181521Z Reason: Higher ranked publisher openindiana.org was selected # pkg uninstall mplayer Creating Plan pkg uninstall: 'mplayer' matches no installed packages ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] iostat
i am starting to wonder if iostat is broken in 151a8 - perhaps for this class of disk? in this pass i am testing a single mirror. the filebench parameters are set for 8k random writes. the numbers reported by iostat differ wildly from filebench, zpool iostat, and fsstat zfs which seem to express similar values over the same time period. iostat returns 11541 writes/s @ 314 MB/s which would imply that the write size was 39250 bytes (314MB/8k) zpool iostat consistently returns about 22-23k write ops/s at about 163MB/s fsstat zfs returns about 20k write ops/s at about 163MB/s filebench returned for the whole run any thoughts? j. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] pulseaudio
Totally agree! I looked at Xspice as an alternatief to ALP but you need a 10 Gbps network if people want to use youtube. The Sun Ray is really light-weight for simple multimedia and even works well over WAN connections. As for pulsaudio. Xspice also needs pulsaudio to be able to transfer audio to the client. Xspice is still in developement. Kind regards, Ivar Jonathan Adams schreef: SunRays aren't easily replaced. they're a very cheap, reliable and versatile system. SunRays all support high resolutions out of the box. They all support smart card technology to connect to the correct session. They are a true thin-client, a SunRay client uses less electricity than my set of LED fairy lights, that I hang in the office at Christmas. The protocol they use is exceptionally light-weight, possibly even better than RDP, orders of magnitude better than VNC. We've looked around for replacements to our system, but because we hot-desk (it's a laboratory, people walk about all day) most other clients just don't do what we need. We've taken to buying up other peoples SunRays when they sell them off. They're one of the greatest systems/protocols that Sun produced, but because the margin was small, their sales guys just weren't interested in pushing them, except in the 1000s, and because of this they didn't know what they did, in order to push them in the market ... and with no profit coming from the line, Oracle dropped the product. Just my 2cents. Jon ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Mplayer problem
Try specifying both the path and the complete file name. # pkg install -g http://pkg.openindiana.org/sfe/ pkg://sfe/library/lzo@2.6,5.11-0.151.1.5:20120807T181521Z I listed the steps I took to update from mplayer2 to mplayer in this bug report: https://www.illumos.org/issues/4184 --Fred On Oct 11 20:30:06, Milan Jurik wrote: Hi Russell, you are using hipster, aren't you? Well, I have no good solution for you here because hipster includes own lzo package which is in collision with SFE lzo package. And mplayer depends on SFE lzo. And mplayer2 is unbuildable for now, so I cannot fix mplayer2 to the next OI release. The only option on hipster is then gnome/media/gnome-media-extras for totem. SFE packages are built on OI. Probably somebody from hipster should take care of own SFE hipster builds. Best regards, Milan On pá, 2013-10-11 at 20:14 +0100, russell wrote: Hi Milan, # pkg info mplayer pkg: info: no packages matching the following patterns you specified are installed on the system. Try specifying -r to query remotely: mplayer # more /etc/release OpenIndiana Development oi_151.1.8 X86 (powered by illumos) Copyright 2011 Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Use is subject to license terms. Assembled 19 February 2013 # pkg install mplayer Creating Plan - pkg install: No matching version of media/mplayer can be installed: Reject: pkg://sfe-encumbered/media/mplayer@1.1,5.11-0.151.1.5:20120818T211441Z Reason: All versions matching 'require' dependency pkg:/library/lzo at 2.6,5.11-0.151.1 are rejected Reject: pkg://sfe/library/lzo@2.6,5.11-0.151.1:20111025T174618Z pkg://sfe/library/lzo@2.6,5.11-0.151.1.5:20120807T181521Z Reason: Higher ranked publisher openindiana.org was selected Reject: pkg://sfe-encumbered/media/mplayer@1.1,5.11-0.151.1.6:20120930T223145Z pkg://sfe-encumbered/media/mplayer@1.1,5.11-0.151.1.8:20130930T195946Z pkg://sfe-encumbered/media/mplayer@1.1,5.11-0.151.1.8:20130930T201848Z Reason: All versions matching 'require' dependency pkg:/library/lzo at 2.6,5.11-0.151.1.5 are rejected Reject: pkg://sfe/library/lzo@2.6,5.11-0.151.1.5:20120807T181521Z Reason: Higher ranked publisher openindiana.org was selected # pkg uninstall mplayer Creating Plan pkg uninstall: 'mplayer' matches no installed packages ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
