Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSolaris

[Мартин Бохниг]

 On top of that, keeping $$$ aside (I had to sell my i7 2700K and also my 16GB 
DDR3!)
The entire OpenSXCE project was most and above all sponsored by my work and the 
money from _my_ family!

The sole fact that only 4 persons showed happiness that Inetl-KMS now works on 
Illumos.
No - cannot beieve there are only 4 folks who waited for this.

Conclusion: Nobody responded because they are boycotting me.
Under such circumstances: Find a single reason why I should as a result _not_ 
have reacted in this way.
Tell me ...

I'm the last dirt for the Illumos crowd.
Under these conditions: wtf.



>Суббота,  9 января 2016, 16:44 +03:00 от Мартин Бохниг :
>
>
>>Пятница,  8 января 2016, 17:15 +01:00 от Aurélien Larcher < 
>>aurelien.larc...@gmail.com >:
>>
>>
>>>I already know sending this is most likely a waste of time based on
>>>the previous posts I read, but if any of this gets through to you let
>>>me know.
>>
>>I do get you point but, please, can we focus instead of firing endless 
>>threads.
>>
>>Time could be better spent migrating the ~100 remaining packages to 
>>oi-userland.
>>
>
>
>
>What? and my 6 weeks of night and day and weekends and X-Mas work are worth no 
>single penny?
>I didn't ask for donations from those who already did donate last year. In 
>fact one friend contacted me privately and asked how he can donate, BUT I 
>THANKFULLY *REFUSED* (because he alsready did notate 50 EUR in 2015)
>I wanted it from the commercial parasites who only take, but never give 
>something back (including give nothing back to you, but you appear to enjoy 
>that!)
>
>Plus: Folks expect me to upload the stuff (I already uploaded most parts in 
>December as src), although I cannot even obtain the basic right to submit it 
>upstream into Illumos mit my humble name, like all the contris are doing??
>You folks must be insane!
>
>Nice to see what you really think without your typical sliming "Dear Martin, 
>Kindest regards"
>
>That US' Illumos guy also once again didn't find it necessary to even only 
>respond privately or anything.
>I was requesting a response since they intelligently blocked me in 2013 for 
>having said the truth about USA's Syria plans.
>
>This here is not a community, IT IS A SHAME.
>
>And now also ban me from the OI lists, then at least the status is synced with 
>Illumos.
>I wonder why any person wants to contribute at all into the project.
>If *that's* the reward.
>
>I regret I fell into the OpenSolaris trap for so long since 20050614 (and 
>since 2003 at CSW).
>But with such handlings the project won't have a future anyway. Because 
>presumably also other contributors like Alexander will feel fed up rather 
>earlier than later.
>After his Hipster releases the public reactions were also mostly from pathetic 
>to shameful.
>
>
>And now: Justice for everyone.
>
>
>Y.S., Martin Bochnig
>
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [oi-dev] OpenSolaris

[Aurélien Larcher]

Hi Martin,

On top of that, keeping $$$ aside (I had to sell my i7 2700K and also my
> 16GB DDR3!)
> The entire OpenSXCE project was most and above all sponsored by my work
> and the money from _my_ family!
>
> The sole fact that only 4 persons showed happiness that Inetl-KMS now
> works on Illumos.
> No - cannot beieve there are only 4 folks who waited for this.
>

Your frustration is more than legitimate considering your dedication.

Regarding your work on Intel KMS it is indeed important to get more people
to provide testing and feedback.
Maybe Nikola at least will be able to do so but it would be nice to expand
the circle ;)

When I have the time I will upload kernel dumps and logs I collected and
post a message to the ML to keep you updated.

Thanks !
Best regards,

Aurelien
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Σχετ: Re: [oi-dev] OpenSolaris

[Aurélien Larcher]

Hi Apostolos,

Actually I have installed the latest editionof Hipster to test the driver
> on thesystem I complained. I will provide feedback next week.
>

Great, thanks a lot !
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Σχετ: Re: [oi-dev] OpenSolaris

[Sriram Narayanan]

On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 11:28 PM, Aurélien Larcher <
aurelien.larc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Apostolos,
>
> Actually I have installed the latest editionof Hipster to test the driver
> > on thesystem I complained. I will provide feedback next week.
> >
>
> Great, thanks a lot !
>

It'd also help if someone could provide a writeup on this work, and also
what it means for Open Indiana in particular and Illumos in general. Media
like Phoronix and such could then pick it up.

This good work needs some public relations style posting rather than just
Martin's posts with the scant few replies.

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[OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSolaris

[Мартин Бохниг]

>Пятница,  8 января 2016, 17:15 +01:00 от Aurélien Larcher 
>:
>
>
>>I already know sending this is most likely a waste of time based on
>>the previous posts I read, but if any of this gets through to you let
>>me know.
>
>I do get you point but, please, can we focus instead of firing endless threads.
>
>Time could be better spent migrating the ~100 remaining packages to 
>oi-userland.
>



What? and my 6 weeks of night and day and weekends and X-Mas work are worth no 
single penny?
I didn't ask for donations from those who already did donate last year. In fact 
one friend contacted me privately and asked how he can donate, BUT I THANKFULLY 
*REFUSED* (because he alsready did notate 50 EUR in 2015)
I wanted it from the commercial parasites who only take, but never give 
something back (including give nothing back to you, but you appear to enjoy 
that!)

Plus: Folks expect me to upload the stuff (I already uploaded most parts in 
December as src), although I cannot even obtain the basic right to submit it 
upstream into Illumos mit my humble name, like all the contris are doing??
You folks must be insane!

Nice to see what you really think without your typical sliming "Dear Martin, 
Kindest regards"

That US' Illumos guy also once again didn't find it necessary to even only 
respond privately or anything.
I was requesting a response since they intelligently blocked me in 2013 for 
having said the truth about USA's Syria plans.

This here is not a community, IT IS A SHAME.

And now also ban me from the OI lists, then at least the status is synced with 
Illumos.
I wonder why any person wants to contribute at all into the project.
If *that's* the reward.

I regret I fell into the OpenSolaris trap for so long since 20050614 (and since 
2003 at CSW).
But with such handlings the project won't have a future anyway. Because 
presumably also other contributors like Alexander will feel fed up rather 
earlier than later.
After his Hipster releases the public reactions were also mostly from pathetic 
to shameful.


And now: Justice for everyone.


Y.S., Martin Bochnig

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[OpenIndiana-discuss] Σχετ: Re: [oi-dev] OpenSolaris

[Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss]

Actually I have installed the latest editionof Hipster to test the driver on 
thesystem I complained. I will provide feedback next week.
AS

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  Στις Σάβ, 9 Ιαν, 2016 στις 17:09, ο χρήστης Aurélien 
Larcher έγραψε:   Hi Martin,

On top of that, keeping $$$ aside (I had to sell my i7 2700K and also my
> 16GB DDR3!)
> The entire OpenSXCE project was most and above all sponsored by my work
> and the money from _my_ family!
>
> The sole fact that only 4 persons showed happiness that Inetl-KMS now
> works on Illumos.
> No - cannot beieve there are only 4 folks who waited for this.
>

Your frustration is more than legitimate considering your dedication.

Regarding your work on Intel KMS it is indeed important to get more people
to provide testing and feedback.
Maybe Nikola at least will be able to do so but it would be nice to expand
the circle ;)

When I have the time I will upload kernel dumps and logs I collected and
post a message to the ML to keep you updated.

Thanks !
Best regards,

Aurelien
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [oi-dev] OpenSolaris

[Jonathan Adams]

On 9 Jan 2016 18:40, "Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss" <
openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote:

...

> Now, why 4 people have expressed their gratitute I don't know! But maybe
they are
> too shy to step forward :P :P :P

If you need me to say thanks then I'll say it, but since my voice counts
for nothing and I no longer use OI as my primary desktop and haven't tested
the changes, there didn't appear to be much point in me saying anything ...

I have and will always appreciate Martin's efforts, and in the past I
contributed to him financially when I needed a working Firefox with flash
support, but as an individual looking at OI as essentially a hobby now, I
am not really in a position to do so again.

As I said, thank you Martin, I have always been grateful for your
contribution to the community, over all the years I have worked with
Solaris, but my voice counts for almost nothing.

Jon
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Inputs for FAQ on the Intel DRM/KMS work

[ken mays via openindiana-discuss]

On Saturday, January 9, 2016 9:33 AM, Alan Coopersmith 
 wrote:

On 01/ 9/16 07:49 AM, Sriram Narayanan wrote:
> Please reply with responses to the above and with further questions and
> answers, if any.

Places you may find some answers include:

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=Solaris-DRM-KMS-2015
http://www.x.org/wiki/Events/XDC2015/Program/#Fishel_status_drm_i915_solaris
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Rendering_Manager
http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/kernel_mode_setting
http://lanyrd.com/topics/x-window-system/

-alan-



Hi Sriram,

1. Elevator pitch/ Two sentence summary of Martin's work on Intel DRM/KMS.

Martin Bochnig is the Principal Software Engineer of OpenSXCE. He 
volunteered to update and port the Intel-based open source kernel components of 
the Intel Graphics KMS/GEM and Direct Rendering Infrastructure 2D/3D graphics 
driver stack to OpenSolaris-related distros.  


2. What is Intel DRM? 


Direct Rendering Manager (DRM)
is a kernel module that gives direct graphics hardware access to DRI clients. 
This module deals with DMA, memory management, resource locking, and secure 
hardware access. 


3. What is Intel KMS? 


Full kernel mode setting support to run the recent usermode ddx and mesa 
drivers for Intel GPUs. 

4. Why are these important?


The open source Intel GEM/KMS/DRM/DRI libraries and device driver support 
Intel's GPUs on the lowest level. This technology is responsible for managing 
the HDMI/TV/DVI video outputs, power management, low-level graphics commands 
execution, monitor hotplug detection and all the low-level bits required for 
the Intel GPU graphics hardware to work. The end goal provides gen4-gen9 Intel 
GPU 2D/3D hardware-accelerated graphics support for OpenSolaris-related distros.



5. What is Martin doing in this space? 

Martin Bochnig is the Principal Software Engineer of OpenSXCE. He 
volunteered to update and port the open source kernel components of the 2015Q4 
Intel Graphics 2D graphics driver stack to OpenSolaris-related distros.


6. What can Open Indiana users do to help test? 

Help Martin in support, testing, funding, and driver-related feedback. 
Support for OpenSXCE is welcome.


7. How does this fit in the Open Indiana roadmap ? 

The end goal provides gen4-gen9 Intel GPU 2D/3D hardware-accelerated 
graphics support for OpenSolaris-related distros. This project will support 
legacy Intel GPUs, Intel HD Graphics, and Intel Iris Pro Graphics (aka Intel 
Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge/Bay Trail/Haswell/Broadwell/Skylake).


8. How does this fit with the Illumos cause? 


The goals of the illumos project  provide community support and 
improvements to the original OpenSolaris-related OS/Net source code. Intel 
GPU-specific laptop users, sys admins, and developers requested basic 2D 
graphics driver support in their assistance to the illumos project goals.


Sidenote: I'd like to recognize Randy Fishel, Principal Software Engineer at 
Oracle, for his 'status of Intel DRM/KMS' presentations and documentation on 
the kernel-related Intel graphics driver port at Oracle for the Solaris OS 
product. 


Hope this info helps the Solaris/OpenSolaris/OpenIndiana and Intel graphics 
engineering community,
Ken Mays

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[OpenIndiana-discuss] Inputs for FAQ on the Intel DRM/KMS work

[Sriram Narayanan]

Hi all:

I think it'd be worthwhile putting together a write up of Martin's work on
this topic. We could then send this out to the list, educate users on how
to test it, and even send to some journalists such as Phoronix, et al.

Here's an initial list of questions. Please feel free to edit. I'll collate
the responses onto the OpenIndiana wiki, and we can then decide what to do
next.

1. Elevator pitch/ Two sentence summary of Martin's work on Intel DRM/KMS.

2. What is Intel DRM?

3. What is Intel KMS?

4. Why are these important?

5. What is Martin doing in this space?

6. What can Open Indiana users do to help test?

7. How does this fit in the Open Indiana roadmap ?

8. How does this fit with the Illumos cause?

Please reply with responses to the above and with further questions and
answers, if any.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [oi-dev] OpenSolaris

[Apostolos Syropoulos via openindiana-discuss]

>
> Regarding your work on Intel KMS it is indeed important to get more people
> to provide testing and feedback.
> Maybe Nikola at least will be able to do so but it would be nice to expand
> the circle ;)
> 


I am bit confusing. What Martib did is very important for our OS. At the moment
we can only use nVIDIA graphics cards and this happens only because Oracle still
supports Solaris 10. In fact, once KMS works flawless, people can work on making
the ATI driver usable. And the next step would be to port the open source nVIDIA
driver. This means that people will be able to run OI on almost any kind of 
computer!
Now, why 4 people have expressed their gratitute I don't know! But maybe they 
are
too shy to step forward :P :P :P

A.S.


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Xanthi, Greece

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[OpenIndiana-discuss] Get openindiana.org posts as news feeds

[Aurélien Larcher]

Hi,
in case there is an interest, you can get RSS feeds from www.openindiana.org
by adding /feed to the URL.

News:

http://www.openindiana.org/category/news/feed/

Announcements:

http://www.openindiana.org/category/announcements/feed/

See: https://codex.wordpress.org/WordPress_Feeds#Categories_and_Tags

Best regards

Aurelien

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Inputs for FAQ on the Intel DRM/KMS work

[Alan Coopersmith]

On 01/ 9/16 07:49 AM, Sriram Narayanan wrote:

Please reply with responses to the above and with further questions and
answers, if any.


Places you may find some answers include:

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=Solaris-DRM-KMS-2015
http://www.x.org/wiki/Events/XDC2015/Program/#Fishel_status_drm_i915_solaris
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Rendering_Manager
http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/kernel_mode_setting
http://lanyrd.com/topics/x-window-system/

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Σχετ: Re: [oi-dev] OpenSolaris

[Aurélien Larcher]

Dear Sriram,

> It'd also help if someone could provide a writeup on this work, and also
> > what it means for Open Indiana in particular and Illumos in general.
> Media
> > like Phoronix and such could then pick it up.
> >
> > This good work needs some public relations style posting rather than just
> > Martin's posts with the scant few replies.
> >
>
> In fact, I volunteer for making this happen. I'll send a separate post on
> this.
>

You are totally right.
With the newly updated website (though not perfect), the intent was to
provide more information on the current status and highlight the need of
contributions in specific areas (testing, packaging): this is slowly moving
forward.
Alexander's, Ken's and Martin's progresses are not as visible as they
should be.

There are several levels of information:
- users should get updates on the news pages:
http://www.openindiana.org/category/news/
- contributors should be able to understand where help is needed on the
roadmap page: http://www.openindiana.org/overview/roadmap/
- developers use the wiki to track their progress:
http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Hipster

So the website's purpose shoud be two-fold:
- give general information for users
- provide entry points to the wiki for contributors/developers

As long as people have to dig several hours to find information I do not
think we will be getting any feedback.

Although this is not enough, I added:
- an "Intel KMS driver" page to the wiki:
http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Intel+KMS+driver
- a bullet point to the roadmap:
http://www.openindiana.org/overview/roadmap/

Best regards

Aurelien
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Σχετ: Re: [oi-dev] OpenSolaris

[Sriram Narayanan]

On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 11:39 PM, Sriram Narayanan 
wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 11:28 PM, Aurélien Larcher <
> aurelien.larc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Apostolos,
>>
>> Actually I have installed the latest editionof Hipster to test the driver
>> > on thesystem I complained. I will provide feedback next week.
>> >
>>
>> Great, thanks a lot !
>>
>
> It'd also help if someone could provide a writeup on this work, and also
> what it means for Open Indiana in particular and Illumos in general. Media
> like Phoronix and such could then pick it up.
>
> This good work needs some public relations style posting rather than just
> Martin's posts with the scant few replies.
>

In fact, I volunteer for making this happen. I'll send a separate post on
this.


>
> -- Ram
>
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[OpenIndiana-discuss] Improved Network Performance

[russell]

Hi,

I just want to say thanks for the improvement in Network performance 
that I have noticed in the last two or three releases of OpenIndiana. It 
has effectively doubled the transfer rates when I use filezilla from a 
linux client to my desktop.


I have an Intel Corporation 82571EB Dual Port Gigabit Ethernet PCI-e 
Controller, if it is a driver improvement thats great or if is 
improvements in SSH that is also great.



As an aside, when I use Cheese Webcam Booth 2.28.1 I have found that it 
is not possible to capture video at any of the supported resolutions 
160x120, 320x240, 640x480 and 1280x960 on my Dual Quad Core Opteron 2389.
However, on a Dual Dual Core Opteron 2216 which is running LinuxMint 
using Cheese Webcam Booth 3.10.2 it is capable of capturing video at 
1920x1080 down to 160x90 using a Logitech C920 camera.


Regards

Russell

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