Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Suitable Dev box to replace Ultra 80
I would love a sparc port. Right now I am putting openbsd on my blade1000 because I hate to see it sit there and collect dust. I just wish we had a driver for the xvr-1200 although truthfully vi doesn't really need much 3d acceleration. On 01/23/12 08:04 PM, Peter Firmstone wrote: I've used Sparc since the 90's, in my undergrad university days, I used to log in remotely to the University network, using a Sparc Classic, I never suffered the consequences of MS Word documents becoming corrupted, or the other PC reliability issues and had the benefit of additional account privileges (unofficially) like untimed internet access, only because the sysadmin used sparc and all the important infrastructure at the Uni was sparc or Unix based. I'm somewhat afraid of using Intel hardware, especially on the internet, due to the bios and network hardware security issues that OS's can't prevent. OpenBoot is far more powerful than typical x86 bios. It would be nice to have a Niagara dev box, for multi threading development. How portable is Openindiana, from what I can tell it's intel only? How easy is Openindiana to build, do you think there would be enough interest in a sparc port? Or perhaps an ARM64 port? Arm seems to have much greater economy of scale and could displace x86 the same way x86 displaced the big Unix vendors (well actually it was more like top brass knee jerk reactions, like Alpha's untimely and premature death). Unlike Intel, anyone can license arm (or sparc for that matter, but ARM has the numbers). If Openindiana was to support ARM64 some time in future, now would be the time to start, while hardware vendors are looking to enter new markets. Cheers, Peter. Message: 4 Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 08:22:40 -0500 From: Daniel Kjar dk...@elmira.edu To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Suitable Dev box to replace Ultra 80 Message-ID: 4f1d5f20.6010...@elmira.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed If you like old sun hardware you could pick up an ultra 40 or 20 used. I put a 3ghz dual core in my ultra 20 and 8 gbs of ram + 4 hard drives. The 40 has much better options. I also have a 4x2 core (885s I believe) v40z with 32gb of ram I picked up for 500 dollars a couple years ago. That is my openindiana sunray server. Follow the instructions on the sunray users forum and it works great. No kiosks though. Sadly I have had to retire my old blade1000 due to the same kind of stuff you mention. I use the ultra 20 as a file server and my desktop. 08:21am up 61 days 21:53 On 01/22/12 12:16 AM, Peter Firmstone wrote: Hi, I've got a Grandfathers Axe, Ultra 80, 4 CPU, 4GB Ram, 4 x 2.5 SAS Drives, 2 x 3.5 SCSI, 2x XVR-1000's and dual 24 LCD Monitors. I had been waiting for Sun to release a new sparc workstation, but it never happened. Its a Java dev box, all round work computer (with sunray clients), has a zone with a web server, online since 2005. I recently noticed that JDK1.7 isn't supported on my release of Solaris 10, I'm guessing it isn't on Openindiana either ;), but better to have community support than nothing at all! I also participate in the Apache River project, once I replace this workstation, our software will no longer be tested on Solaris Sparc, so support for that OS / Hardware combo will be dropped. What's the best (Rock solid) CPU / Motherboard / ECC Ram / Hardware to run Openindiana with? Can Openindiana server thin clients eg ltsp? Where do you order Openindiania DVD's? Thanks, Peter. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss -- Dr. Daniel Kjar Assistant Professor of Biology Division of Mathematics and Natural Sciences Elmira College 1 Park Place Elmira, NY 14901 607-735-1826 http://faculty.elmira.edu/dkjar ...humans send their young men to war; ants send their old ladies -E. O. Wilson ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Suitable Dev box to replace Ultra 80
I've used Sparc since the 90's, in my undergrad university days, I used to log in remotely to the University network, using a Sparc Classic, I never suffered the consequences of MS Word documents becoming corrupted, or the other PC reliability issues and had the benefit of additional account privileges (unofficially) like untimed internet access, only because the sysadmin used sparc and all the important infrastructure at the Uni was sparc or Unix based. I'm somewhat afraid of using Intel hardware, especially on the internet, due to the bios and network hardware security issues that OS's can't prevent. OpenBoot is far more powerful than typical x86 bios. It would be nice to have a Niagara dev box, for multi threading development. How portable is Openindiana, from what I can tell it's intel only? How easy is Openindiana to build, do you think there would be enough interest in a sparc port? Or perhaps an ARM64 port? Arm seems to have much greater economy of scale and could displace x86 the same way x86 displaced the big Unix vendors (well actually it was more like top brass knee jerk reactions, like Alpha's untimely and premature death). Unlike Intel, anyone can license arm (or sparc for that matter, but ARM has the numbers). If Openindiana was to support ARM64 some time in future, now would be the time to start, while hardware vendors are looking to enter new markets. Cheers, Peter. Message: 4 Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 08:22:40 -0500 From: Daniel Kjar dk...@elmira.edu To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Suitable Dev box to replace Ultra 80 Message-ID: 4f1d5f20.6010...@elmira.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed If you like old sun hardware you could pick up an ultra 40 or 20 used. I put a 3ghz dual core in my ultra 20 and 8 gbs of ram + 4 hard drives. The 40 has much better options. I also have a 4x2 core (885s I believe) v40z with 32gb of ram I picked up for 500 dollars a couple years ago. That is my openindiana sunray server. Follow the instructions on the sunray users forum and it works great. No kiosks though. Sadly I have had to retire my old blade1000 due to the same kind of stuff you mention. I use the ultra 20 as a file server and my desktop. 08:21am up 61 days 21:53 On 01/22/12 12:16 AM, Peter Firmstone wrote: Hi, I've got a Grandfathers Axe, Ultra 80, 4 CPU, 4GB Ram, 4 x 2.5 SAS Drives, 2 x 3.5 SCSI, 2x XVR-1000's and dual 24 LCD Monitors. I had been waiting for Sun to release a new sparc workstation, but it never happened. Its a Java dev box, all round work computer (with sunray clients), has a zone with a web server, online since 2005. I recently noticed that JDK1.7 isn't supported on my release of Solaris 10, I'm guessing it isn't on Openindiana either ;), but better to have community support than nothing at all! I also participate in the Apache River project, once I replace this workstation, our software will no longer be tested on Solaris Sparc, so support for that OS / Hardware combo will be dropped. What's the best (Rock solid) CPU / Motherboard / ECC Ram / Hardware to run Openindiana with? Can Openindiana server thin clients eg ltsp? Where do you order Openindiania DVD's? Thanks, Peter. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Suitable Dev box to replace Ultra 80
The Solaris port to ARM is stagnant; http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Project+osarm ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Suitable Dev box to replace Ultra 80
http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Project+osarm/ I have found that I need the trailing slash for the link to come up. Jerry On 01/23/12 08:32 PM, Gary Driggs wrote: The Solaris port to ARM is stagnant; http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Project+osarm ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Suitable Dev box to replace Ultra 80
If you like old sun hardware you could pick up an ultra 40 or 20 used. I put a 3ghz dual core in my ultra 20 and 8 gbs of ram + 4 hard drives. The 40 has much better options. I also have a 4x2 core (885s I believe) v40z with 32gb of ram I picked up for 500 dollars a couple years ago. That is my openindiana sunray server. Follow the instructions on the sunray users forum and it works great. No kiosks though. Sadly I have had to retire my old blade1000 due to the same kind of stuff you mention. I use the ultra 20 as a file server and my desktop. 08:21am up 61 days 21:53 On 01/22/12 12:16 AM, Peter Firmstone wrote: Hi, I've got a Grandfathers Axe, Ultra 80, 4 CPU, 4GB Ram, 4 x 2.5 SAS Drives, 2 x 3.5 SCSI, 2x XVR-1000's and dual 24 LCD Monitors. I had been waiting for Sun to release a new sparc workstation, but it never happened. Its a Java dev box, all round work computer (with sunray clients), has a zone with a web server, online since 2005. I recently noticed that JDK1.7 isn't supported on my release of Solaris 10, I'm guessing it isn't on Openindiana either ;), but better to have community support than nothing at all! I also participate in the Apache River project, once I replace this workstation, our software will no longer be tested on Solaris Sparc, so support for that OS / Hardware combo will be dropped. What's the best (Rock solid) CPU / Motherboard / ECC Ram / Hardware to run Openindiana with? Can Openindiana server thin clients eg ltsp? Where do you order Openindiania DVD's? Thanks, Peter. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Suitable Dev box to replace Ultra 80
Hi, I've got a Grandfathers Axe, Ultra 80, 4 CPU, 4GB Ram, 4 x 2.5 SAS Drives, 2 x 3.5 SCSI, 2x XVR-1000's and dual 24 LCD Monitors. I had been waiting for Sun to release a new sparc workstation, but it never happened. Its a Java dev box, all round work computer (with sunray clients), has a zone with a web server, online since 2005. I recently noticed that JDK1.7 isn't supported on my release of Solaris 10, I'm guessing it isn't on Openindiana either ;), but better to have community support than nothing at all! I also participate in the Apache River project, once I replace this workstation, our software will no longer be tested on Solaris Sparc, so support for that OS / Hardware combo will be dropped. What's the best (Rock solid) CPU / Motherboard / ECC Ram / Hardware to run Openindiana with? Can Openindiana server thin clients eg ltsp? Where do you order Openindiania DVD's? Thanks, Peter. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
