Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] bmc driver in Openindiana for Supermicro IPMI controllers?

2013-03-20 Thread Hans J. Albertsson

I tried the solaris bmc driver...

Not good:

ipmitool -I bmc user list

makes the box crash and dump

Some other commands had the same effect.

I can probably live with accessing the server ipmis solely from my laptop.

Out the bmc and sbms/ipmi drivers go.


On 2013-03-19 22:53, Hans J. Albertsson wrote:

Anyone know if there's an OpenIPMI package compiled for OI??

And: would it be legal to install and use Sun's bmc or sbmc+ipmi 
drivers from the oracle solaris repository???


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] bmc driver in Openindiana for Supermicro IPMI controllers?

2013-03-20 Thread Jim Klimov

On 2013-03-19 23:34, James Carlson wrote:

On 03/19/13 17:53, Hans J. Albertsson wrote:

And: would it be legal to install and use Sun's bmc or sbmc+ipmi drivers
from the oracle solaris repository???


It depends on what you mean.  Your copy of OpenIndiana is yours and you
alone can determine what you want to install on it.  If you have legally
obtained data or executables, you're free to use them as you see fit.

However, the terms under which you obtain those bits from Oracle may
restrict the ways in which you may use them, whether on OpenIndiana or
elsewhere.  Nobody here is likely to be competent to tell you how (or
even if) those terms apply in this situation.  If you're concerned about
that, then you should contact Oracle or retain your own legal counsel.

(And, for what it's worth, that's not a special OpenIndiana issue.  It
applies pretty much generally.  Mailing lists are poor substitutes for
real legal advice.)




Likewise, IANAL, but there was similar discussion on Sun/Oracle wikis
regarding licensing of some enterprise products that Sun allowed to use
in any way without limitations, and Oracle - only for 30-90 day trials.

The answer was that the license used when downloading and installing the
product applies.

So if you've got old OpenSolaris ISOs legally (downloading from Sun and
agreeing to that license) then you may use and may not redistribute,
particularly, the closed-source bmc driver, and are not entitled to
any updates from the vendor (at least those to which another license
applies - such as one that requires a purchase, while you continue
free use).

That said, bmc from sxce snv_130 or so does work on OI copied ditto
(search the net for my posts last year or so). There were some tricks
to use it with Thumper's botched IPMI card implementation, but that
applied originally as well.

HTH,
//Jim

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] bmc driver in Openindiana for Supermicro IPMI controllers?

2013-03-20 Thread Jim Klimov

On 2013-03-20 11:05, Jim Klimov wrote:

That said, bmc from sxce snv_130 or so does work on OI copied ditto
(search the net for my posts last year or so). There were some tricks
to use it with Thumper's botched IPMI card implementation, but that
applied originally as well.


Also, the original SXCE bmc driver is closed-source, hence it is
not in illumos, and hence the license restrictions such as not
redistribution other than as part of OpenSolaris.

It was discussed that an open-sourced (bsd?) driver port was worked
on, but I am not sure whether that has been completed and integrated.
Probably, the nice people at Joyent or some other hosting-oriented
illumos contributor would have more to say on this :)

//Jim


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] bmc driver in Openindiana for Supermicro IPMI controllers?

2013-03-19 Thread Hans J. Albertsson

Anyone know if there's an OpenIPMI package compiled for OI??

And: would it be legal to install and use Sun's bmc or sbmc+ipmi drivers 
from the oracle solaris repository???


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] bmc driver in Openindiana for Supermicro IPMI controllers?

2013-03-19 Thread Rich
The IPMI driver that is in upstream Illumos will presumably do the
thing you want with OpenIPMI.

Of course, to my knowledge, there's no version of OI cut with that
revision of Illumos, so...

- Rich

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 5:53 PM, Hans J. Albertsson
hans.j.alberts...@branneriet.se wrote:
 Anyone know if there's an OpenIPMI package compiled for OI??

 And: would it be legal to install and use Sun's bmc or sbmc+ipmi drivers
 from the oracle solaris repository???


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] bmc driver in Openindiana for Supermicro IPMI controllers?

2013-03-19 Thread James Carlson
On 03/19/13 17:53, Hans J. Albertsson wrote:
 And: would it be legal to install and use Sun's bmc or sbmc+ipmi drivers
 from the oracle solaris repository???

It depends on what you mean.  Your copy of OpenIndiana is yours and you
alone can determine what you want to install on it.  If you have legally
obtained data or executables, you're free to use them as you see fit.

However, the terms under which you obtain those bits from Oracle may
restrict the ways in which you may use them, whether on OpenIndiana or
elsewhere.  Nobody here is likely to be competent to tell you how (or
even if) those terms apply in this situation.  If you're concerned about
that, then you should contact Oracle or retain your own legal counsel.

(And, for what it's worth, that's not a special OpenIndiana issue.  It
applies pretty much generally.  Mailing lists are poor substitutes for
real legal advice.)

-- 
James Carlson 42.703N 71.076W carls...@workingcode.com

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