Re: [Opensim-users] [Opensim-dev] Streaming sessions on Twitch

[Diva Canto]

FYI a fairy inside Twitch added me to the do-not-ban list. More 
generally, they said: "Second Life is banned but not every similar 
looking game has the same restrictions. Can't promise we wouldn't take 
action if the content ends up breaking ToS, but sounds like that 
wouldn't be expected."


On 12/23/2020 8:09 AM, roy corr wrote:

I actually asked Twitch why a few years ago. Second Life is banned supposedly 
because of the unpredictability of griefers appearing with adult content. I 
have asked about Opensim and they see it as grey area as it's similar, can be 
easily mistaken, or SL and the same stuff potential can happen.


Roy,

Head of Mobius Team






 On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 07:36:34 -0800 Diva Canto  
wrote 


Hi Teravus,

Interesting to know. I had no idea!
But, indeed, this is not Second Life. And, for the most part, the
content on my sessions, so far, has been about the server side -- so,
terminals, vi, and all that good stuff. I plan to do one session
inworld, though, so I'll make sure to give those notices upfront.

Thanks!
Diva

On 12/22/2020 11:04 PM, Teravus Ovares wrote:

The only thing that I would caution..and, this would be a
technicality..

SecondLife is on Twitch's Banned games list.

Granted..  I know that you're not playing SecondLife.

However, these rules are up for interpretation by their moderation team,
which, in the past, has been very "uneven" in their application of the
rules.   If a random viewer sees it and reports you for playing
'SecondLife' it may be a bit of a challenge to deal with it.
I would suggest big notices stating things like,  "this is not SecondLife".



On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 1:26 PM Diva Canto <mailto:d...@metaverseink.com> wrote:


Final spam to this mailing list about this. From here on, follow me on
Twitter (@divacanto) if you want to get a heads up about my streaming
sessions.

I'm going to stream again around 2:30pm PST to set up Wifi on my new
grid. Tune in if you're interested to see how I do this, and want to ask
me questions live:
https://www.twitch.tv/divacanto

Otherwise, all of these videos end up on my YT channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfWW4e3cSIEpVdnbZ4VgrbA

On 12/12/2020 7:39 AM, Diva Canto wrote:

Thanks. It turns out that the workflow that Twitch streamers follow is
to stream on Twitch and then upload those videos to YouTube. Twitch
allows us to do that with the click of a button, so I did that too.

My YouTube channel is linked from my Twitch channel, but here it is:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfWW4e3cSIEpVdnbZ4VgrbA

Yesterday's video is already there.

I will stream again in about 90 minutes to finish setting up that grid
that I started yesterday.

On 12/12/2020 4:22 AM, Michel Beauregard wrote:

That is great that you willing to take time to do that. There is this
web page that contain some kind of structure for start-up
understanding on opensim programming stucture .
http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Codebase_overview .  This is the only
permanent record aside of git that  I found offered by opensimulator
project to help people interested in the project coding.

I would like to add that tracing opensimulator execution to try to
understand its processing of information is quiet a challenge. So your
initiative is greatly appreciate.

I notice from twitch help  source as follow that on demand video will
only last 14 days if you dont setup that option and 60 days if you do
as describe here :.
https://help.twitch.tv/s/article/video-on-demand?language=en_US
Given that you provide permission me or someone better equipped then
me could record you presentation via screen recording.  And post a
link in the above opensimulator wiki codebase overview page .

The first one being how to install opensim grid mode actually still
available on twitch.
https://www.twitch.tv/divacanto

GiMiSa

   Le jeudi 10 décembre 2020 17 h 47 min 45 s HNE, Diva Canto
<mailto:d...@metaverseink.com> a écrit :
Hello everyone,

During OSCC the idea has come up of documenting opensim through a series
of live streaming sessions showing how to do assorted things in and
around the code. The Holidays are coming, so I hope I have time to do
this!

In fact, I'm in the process of setting up a new grid that I plan to use
in a course next quarter, so, as I was starting to set things up, it
occurred to me that I could be streaming what I do, so that others could
learn/compare. The first 2 streaming sessions will be about (1) setting
up a multi-sim grid and (2) installing Wifi and other plugins. Not quite
code yet, but it's a good starting point.

Unfortunately, I don't think I can commit to specific days/times to do
this, since assorted work tends to come my way all the time. But if you
subscribe to my Twitch channel, you will be notified when I go live.
And, iirc, Twitch stores the videos of the sessions, so if you miss the
live session, it can be replayed.

Anyway, if you're interested, please subsc

Re: [Opensim-users] [Opensim-dev] Streaming sessions on Twitch

[Diva Canto]

Hi Teravus,

Interesting to know. I had no idea!
But, indeed, this is not Second Life. And, for the most part, the 
content on my sessions, so far, has been about the server side -- so, 
terminals, vi, and all that good stuff. I plan to do one session 
inworld, though, so I'll make sure to give those notices upfront.


Thanks!
Diva

On 12/22/2020 11:04 PM, Teravus Ovares wrote:

The only thing that I would caution..and, this would be a
technicality..

SecondLife is on Twitch's Banned games list.

Granted..  I know that you're not playing SecondLife.

However, these rules are up for interpretation by their moderation team,
which, in the past, has been very "uneven" in their application of the
rules.   If a random viewer sees it and reports you for playing
'SecondLife' it may be a bit of a challenge to deal with it.
I would suggest big notices stating things like,  "this is not SecondLife".



On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 1:26 PM Diva Canto  wrote:


Final spam to this mailing list about this. From here on, follow me on
Twitter (@divacanto) if you want to get a heads up about my streaming
sessions.

I'm going to stream again around 2:30pm PST to set up Wifi on my new
grid. Tune in if you're interested to see how I do this, and want to ask
me questions live:
https://www.twitch.tv/divacanto

Otherwise, all of these videos end up on my YT channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfWW4e3cSIEpVdnbZ4VgrbA

On 12/12/2020 7:39 AM, Diva Canto wrote:

Thanks. It turns out that the workflow that Twitch streamers follow is
to stream on Twitch and then upload those videos to YouTube. Twitch
allows us to do that with the click of a button, so I did that too.

My YouTube channel is linked from my Twitch channel, but here it is:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfWW4e3cSIEpVdnbZ4VgrbA

Yesterday's video is already there.

I will stream again in about 90 minutes to finish setting up that grid
that I started yesterday.

On 12/12/2020 4:22 AM, Michel Beauregard wrote:

That is great that you willing to take time to do that. There is this
web page that contain some kind of structure for start-up
understanding on opensim programming stucture .
http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Codebase_overview  .  This is the only
permanent record aside of git that  I found offered by opensimulator
project to help people interested in the project coding.

I would like to add that tracing opensimulator execution to try to
understand its processing of information is quiet a challenge. So your
initiative is greatly appreciate.

I notice from twitch help  source as follow that on demand video will
only last 14 days if you dont setup that option and 60 days if you do
as describe here :.
https://help.twitch.tv/s/article/video-on-demand?language=en_US
Given that you provide permission me or someone better equipped then
me could record you presentation via screen recording.  And post a
link in the above opensimulator wiki codebase overview page .

The first one being how to install opensim grid mode actually still
available on twitch.
https://www.twitch.tv/divacanto

GiMiSa

  Le jeudi 10 décembre 2020 17 h 47 min 45 s HNE, Diva Canto
 a écrit :
   Hello everyone,

During OSCC the idea has come up of documenting opensim through a series
of live streaming sessions showing how to do assorted things in and
around the code. The Holidays are coming, so I hope I have time to do
this!

In fact, I'm in the process of setting up a new grid that I plan to use
in a course next quarter, so, as I was starting to set things up, it
occurred to me that I could be streaming what I do, so that others could
learn/compare. The first 2 streaming sessions will be about (1) setting
up a multi-sim grid and (2) installing Wifi and other plugins. Not quite
code yet, but it's a good starting point.

Unfortunately, I don't think I can commit to specific days/times to do
this, since assorted work tends to come my way all the time. But if you
subscribe to my Twitch channel, you will be notified when I go live.
And, iirc, Twitch stores the videos of the sessions, so if you miss the
live session, it can be replayed.

Anyway, if you're interested, please subscribe to my channel; live
action may happen there soon!

Twitch


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Re: [Opensim-users] [Opensim-dev] Streaming sessions on Twitch

[Diva Canto]

Final spam to this mailing list about this. From here on, follow me on 
Twitter (@divacanto) if you want to get a heads up about my streaming 
sessions.


I'm going to stream again around 2:30pm PST to set up Wifi on my new 
grid. Tune in if you're interested to see how I do this, and want to ask 
me questions live:

https://www.twitch.tv/divacanto

Otherwise, all of these videos end up on my YT channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfWW4e3cSIEpVdnbZ4VgrbA

On 12/12/2020 7:39 AM, Diva Canto wrote:
Thanks. It turns out that the workflow that Twitch streamers follow is 
to stream on Twitch and then upload those videos to YouTube. Twitch 
allows us to do that with the click of a button, so I did that too.


My YouTube channel is linked from my Twitch channel, but here it is:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfWW4e3cSIEpVdnbZ4VgrbA

Yesterday's video is already there.

I will stream again in about 90 minutes to finish setting up that grid 
that I started yesterday.


On 12/12/2020 4:22 AM, Michel Beauregard wrote:
That is great that you willing to take time to do that. There is this 
web page that contain some kind of structure for start-up 
understanding on opensim programming stucture . 
http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Codebase_overview  .  This is the only 
permanent record aside of git that  I found offered by opensimulator 
project to help people interested in the project coding.


I would like to add that tracing opensimulator execution to try to 
understand its processing of information is quiet a challenge. So your 
initiative is greatly appreciate.


I notice from twitch help  source as follow that on demand video will 
only last 14 days if you dont setup that option and 60 days if you do 
as describe here :.

https://help.twitch.tv/s/article/video-on-demand?language=en_US
Given that you provide permission me or someone better equipped then 
me could record you presentation via screen recording.  And post a 
link in the above opensimulator wiki codebase overview page .


The first one being how to install opensim grid mode actually still 
available on twitch.

https://www.twitch.tv/divacanto

GiMiSa

 Le jeudi 10 décembre 2020 17 h 47 min 45 s HNE, Diva Canto 
 a écrit :

  Hello everyone,

During OSCC the idea has come up of documenting opensim through a series
of live streaming sessions showing how to do assorted things in and
around the code. The Holidays are coming, so I hope I have time to do 
this!


In fact, I'm in the process of setting up a new grid that I plan to use
in a course next quarter, so, as I was starting to set things up, it
occurred to me that I could be streaming what I do, so that others could
learn/compare. The first 2 streaming sessions will be about (1) setting
up a multi-sim grid and (2) installing Wifi and other plugins. Not quite
code yet, but it's a good starting point.

Unfortunately, I don't think I can commit to specific days/times to do
this, since assorted work tends to come my way all the time. But if you
subscribe to my Twitch channel, you will be notified when I go live.
And, iirc, Twitch stores the videos of the sessions, so if you miss the
live session, it can be replayed.

Anyway, if you're interested, please subscribe to my channel; live
action may happen there soon!

Twitch


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[Opensim-users] Streaming sessions on Twitch

[Diva Canto]

Hello everyone,

During OSCC the idea has come up of documenting opensim through a series 
of live streaming sessions showing how to do assorted things in and 
around the code. The Holidays are coming, so I hope I have time to do this!


In fact, I'm in the process of setting up a new grid that I plan to use 
in a course next quarter, so, as I was starting to set things up, it 
occurred to me that I could be streaming what I do, so that others could 
learn/compare. The first 2 streaming sessions will be about (1) setting 
up a multi-sim grid and (2) installing Wifi and other plugins. Not quite 
code yet, but it's a good starting point.


Unfortunately, I don't think I can commit to specific days/times to do 
this, since assorted work tends to come my way all the time. But if you 
subscribe to my Twitch channel, you will be notified when I go live. 
And, iirc, Twitch stores the videos of the sessions, so if you miss the 
live session, it can be replayed.


Anyway, if you're interested, please subscribe to my channel; live 
action may happen there soon!


https://www.twitch.tv/divacanto

Cheers,
Diva
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Re: [Opensim-users] Zoom in opensim

[Diva Canto]

FYI, Zoom works in the inworld browser, at least in Firestorm, with the 
obvious limitations: it can't access the microphone and the camera, but 
it shows the video, the screen shares, and you can chat. And if you join 
by phone, you can have audio too. So, almost fully functional. Picture 
attached.


This is almost entirely a client-side feature, not server side, so it 
has nothing to do with OpenSim vs. Second Life. All the server does is 
send the current URL and prim properties to all viewers that connect to 
the region.



On 4/16/2020 5:44 AM, PF Anderson wrote:

A friend had these thoughts:

"the problem is most open sim server code is shipped "80%" complete and
everyone tried to add stuff they miss from SL

I believe zoom uses port 445 and if the open sim software has this blocked
for security reasons zoom may not work"

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 5:11 PM Dr Ramesh Ramloll 
wrote:


Hey there,
I tried zoom on a MOAP page in the various versions of opensim including
the latest one, but the in world browser cannot handle it. Any ideas or
tips for getting zoom to work in world?
Thanks
Ramesh
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[Opensim-users] New hosting

[Diva Canto]

A heads up that we are moving the opensimulator.org server to a new 
hosting server, and things may be a bit wonky for a few days -- mantis, 
wiki, etc.


Diva
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[Opensim-users] Release announcement: OpenSimulator 0.9.0.0

[Diva Canto]

Hi everyone,

I'm pleased to announce the much awaited release 0.9.0.0 of OpenSimulator!

As usual, the release packages can be found in [1], as well as on the 
front page of the the project's web site. The release notes can be found 
in [2].


For those who have not been following the development branch, we caution 
to be extra careful with upgrading your grids this time, as there are 
almost 2 years-worth of changes in this release. A good practice is to 
deploy it on a test grid first, and then deploy it for production.


Best,
Diva
(Diva distro / Wifi will follow soon)

[1] http://dist.opensimulator.org/
[2] http://opensimulator.org/wiki/0.9.0.0_Release (The release notes are 
still a work in progress, but they list the main changes)

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[Opensim-users] Pre-release announcement for OpenSimulator

[Diva Canto]

Hi everyone.

This is an announcement of the *second* release candidate for the much 
awaited OpenSimulator 0.9, opensim-0.9.0.0-rc2. As usual, the release 
packages can be found in [1].


0.9.0.0 includes all the code donated by Avination about one year ago, 
as well as several more improvements made since then. The code was a bit 
unstable as we worked through thousands of merged commits, and 
correspondent regressions, but we feel it is now stable enough to cut a 
release out of it. Many people have already been using it for a few 
months, including OSGrid.


rc2 contains many fixes identified in rc1, including some important 
permissions issues.


We're still working on the release notes [2].

We appreciate people trying out this release candidate and reporting any 
issues back to us via mantis. We are particularly sensitive to 
regressions -- things that worked in 0.8.2 and stopped working in 0.9.0.


Best,
Diva

[1] http://dist.opensimulator.org/   (scroll to the bottom)
[2] http://opensimulator.org/wiki/0.9.0.0_Release
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[Diva Canto]

Hi everyone.

This is an announcement of the first candidate release for the much 
awaited OpenSimulator 0.9, opensim-0.9.0.0-rc1. As usual, the release 
packages can be found in [1].


0.9.0.0-rc1 includes all the code donated by Avination about one year 
ago, as well as several more improvements made since then. The code was 
a bit unstable as we worked through thousands of merged commits, and 
correspondent regressions, but we feel it is now stable enough to cut a 
release out of it. Many people have already been using it for a few 
months, including OSGrid.


The release notes are emerging in [2] -- they are a bit of an 
understatement at the moment. A lot more will be written there in the 
next couple of weeks as we make our way to the official release. We 
appreciate people trying out the release candidate and reporting any 
issues back to us via mantis. We are particularly sensitive to 
regressions -- things that worked in 0.8.2 and stopped working in 0.9.


Best,
Diva

[1] http://dist.opensimulator.org/   (scroll to the bottom)
[2] http://opensimulator.org/wiki/0.9.0.0_Release
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Re: [Opensim-users] Minor release announcement: OpenSimulator 0.8.2.1

[Diva Canto]

Try downloading it again, but unzip it in Cygwin using unzip, rather 
than using the explorer


On 12/10/2015 3:37 PM, Unadecal Arado wrote:
I am still unable to to follow the new instructions to install Wifi 
for grids. MAUTIL still abends with the following error:


C:\Opensim\opensim-0.8.2.1\bin>mautil.exe -reg 
c:\opensim\addins-registry reg-update
ERROR: Add-in scan operation failed. The runtime may have encountered 
an error w

hile trying to load an assembly.
ERROR: Add-in scan operation failed (Could not load file or assembly 
'file:///C:
\Opensim\opensim-0.8.2.1\bin\Mono.Addins.dll' or one of its 
dependencies. Operat

ion is not supported. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80131515))
ERROR: The add-in database could not be updated. It may be due to file 
corruptio

n. Try running the setup repair utility

C:\Opensim\opensim-0.8.2.1\bin>




On 10 December 2015 at 06:54, Oren Hurvitz <or...@kitely.com 
<mailto:or...@kitely.com>> wrote:


Scratch that, I see the new commits now. They also end with
"Flipped flavour to release"...

On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Oren Hurvitz <or...@kitely.com
<mailto:or...@kitely.com>> wrote:

I don't see a new branch in Git. Is this build from the
0.8.2-post-fixes branch? That branch's last commit was on Nov
16 ("Flip flavour to release").

    On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 11:58 PM, Diva Canto
<d...@metaverseink.com <mailto:d...@metaverseink.com>> wrote:

Yes, precisely.


On 12/9/2015 1:39 PM, Unadecal Arado wrote:

Thank you for this release Diva. Does the mono dll
upgrades include a fix for the mono addins on windows,
which seemed to be calling .net 3.5 routines?

On 9 December 2015 at 19:41, Diva Canto
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Hi everyone,

We packaged a new release off the 0.8.2 branch with a
minor fix for future-proofing and a few dll upgrades.
The download buttons in the project's front page have
been updated to point to these new packages.

Release notes:
http://opensimulator.org/wiki/0.8.2.1_Release

Releases:
http://dist.opensimulator.org/

Best,
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Re: [Opensim-users] Minor release announcement: OpenSimulator 0.8.2.1

[Diva Canto]

Yes, precisely.

On 12/9/2015 1:39 PM, Unadecal Arado wrote:
Thank you for this release Diva. Does the mono dll upgrades include a 
fix for the mono addins on windows, which seemed to be calling .net 
3.5 routines?


On 9 December 2015 at 19:41, Diva Canto <d...@metaverseink.com 
<mailto:d...@metaverseink.com>> wrote:


Hi everyone,

We packaged a new release off the 0.8.2 branch with a minor fix
for future-proofing and a few dll upgrades. The download buttons
in the project's front page have been updated to point to these
new packages.

Release notes:
http://opensimulator.org/wiki/0.8.2.1_Release

Releases:
http://dist.opensimulator.org/

Best,
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[Opensim-users] Minor release announcement: OpenSimulator 0.8.2.1

[Diva Canto]

Hi everyone,

We packaged a new release off the 0.8.2 branch with a minor fix for 
future-proofing and a few dll upgrades. The download buttons in the 
project's front page have been updated to point to these new packages.


Release notes:
http://opensimulator.org/wiki/0.8.2.1_Release

Releases:
http://dist.opensimulator.org/

Best,
Diva



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[Opensim-users] Release announcement: OpenSimulator 0.8.2.0

[Diva Canto]

Hi everyone.

I'm pleased to announce release 0.8.2.0 of OpenSimulator. The release 
notes can be found in [2]. As usual, the release packages can be found 
in [1], as well as on the front page of the the project's web site.


FYI, OSCC will be on this version.

Best,
Diva
(Diva distro will follow soon)

[1] http://dist.opensimulator.org/
[2] http://opensimulator.org/wiki/0.8.2.0_Release
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Re: [Opensim-users] Release and pre-release announcement for OpenSimulator

[Diva Canto]

Yes, we recommend you do, especially if you run an open grid or if your 
grid is HG-enabled. 0.8.1.2 has a fix to handle certain edge cases of 
teleports with upcoming versions.


On 10/20/2015 8:10 AM, Jeff Kelley wrote:

At 10:04 PM -0700 10/21/15, Diva Canto wrote:

0.8.1.2 is cut from the 0.8.1 branch with a couple of bug fixes over 
the 0.8.1 release. You may remember that we did a previous 0.8.1.1 in 
between that fixed a nasty bug related to primitive assets. Hopefully 
everyone upgraded their 0.8.1 installations. If not, please upgrade 
now to 0.8.1.2, which also future-proofs your 0.8.1 installations, so 
that they work without any issues with newer simulators (particularly 
important in open/hyper grids).



Hi Diva.

If we run 0.8.1.1, should we upgrade to 0.8.1.2 ?

Thanks for the good work.


-- Jeff
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Re: [Opensim-users] Diva Wifi 0.8.0 on 0.8.1.1 - Windows

[Diva Canto]

Wifi does not require mono.

On 10/21/2015 1:15 AM, Unadecal Arado wrote:

Good morning,

I run a small grid on Windows machines (Windows 7 Pro 64), currently 
still on 0.8.0.3. I want to upgrade to 0.8.1.1, but I am being held up 
by the recent changes to Diva,and in particular to the Wifi module for 
Robust, since it requires mono, and my grid is exclusively Win/.Net. I 
haven't seen any posts explaining how to integrate the latest Wifi 
version into Windows installs which do not require a full recompile of 
the sources, which is out of the question.


Has anyone managed to integrate Wifi for 0.8.0 into 0.8.1.1 at all? 
Would attempting this break 0.8.1.1?


Failing this, can anyone recommend a simple alternative to Wifi as an 
interim measure? I am beginning to think about using JOpensim, which 
will require the obligatory Joomla learning curve, so that won't 
happen in a hurry.


Many thanks,

Unadecal


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[Opensim-users] OSCC'15

[Diva Canto]

OSCC'15 is coming up! This year, it's 1 formal day (December 5) and 1 
informal day (December 6). On the formal day, we will do single-track 
events; the next day, the whole conference center will be open to the 
community for organized as well as impromptu gatherings.


The call for proposals is out, so consider submitting one:
http://conference.opensimulator.org/2015/

As usual, everyone interested in Opensimulator, related projects and VR 
in general is very welcome.


Best,
Diva

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Re: [Opensim-users] The Patent LL was awarded in Dec 2014

[Diva Canto]

DO NOT SEND ANY LINKS TO ANY PATENTS TO THE MAILING LISTS HOSTED AT OUR 
SERVER.

DO NOT DISCUSS PATENTS IN THESE MAILING LISTS.
It doesn't matter who the assignee is. Open source and patents don't mix.
If you want to cause FUD do it in your own server or on social networks.
The next person who does this will be kicked out of the mailing list 
without warning.




On 4/24/2015 12:07 PM, Han Held wrote:
...should probably be something you're aware of before you continue 
throwing time and money on  this project:

https://www.google.com/patents/US8612196

And before you blow it off by saying it applies to every MMO ever or 
similar, I should point out that every MMO ever isn't competing 
directly with Linden Lab.


See you in SL(/2)!
-Han Held



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Re: [Opensim-users] Anyone recognise versanet.de or 94.135.203.122

[Diva Canto]

I think it's a lot. Ppl writing these hypergates should be a little more 
restrained. There's no need to spam.


On 1/11/2015 9:00 AM, Shaun T. Erickson wrote:

On 1/11/15 5:53 AM, Ai Austin wrote:



From: Shaun T. Erickson s...@smxy.org

What kind of traffic is it? My Blamgates check their destinations once
an hour - perhaps they are doing something similar, but at a greater
frequency? Just a wild guess, though.



Thanks Shauin, and yes from the port numbers begin used I expect it 
is indeed some scripts to check for things benign alive or pinging 
hypergates, etc.


I wondered if anyone recognized the 191 second interval as well as 
the IP address.


Once an hour is not too bad.. and I see four or five such IP 
addresses one of which might be your blam gate for us..  e.g. 
65.78.40.167


But every 191 seconds means my Robust.exe console is now full up with 
these debug messages when I check things every so often... yes I know 
I can turn that down to INFO only being shown..


Samples below...  !!

08:55:32 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest from 94.135.203.122:63188
08:57:53 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest from 94.135.203.122:63260
[SNIP]
Once an hour is not too bad.. and I see four or five such IP 
addresses one of which might be your blam gate for us..  e.g. 
65.78.40.167


Yes, that's my address. :)

You think every 191 seconds is a lot? My grid sees one of these every 
few seconds:


...
11:33:34 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:33:37 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:33:40 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:33:44 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:33:48 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:33:52 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:33:55 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:34:07 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:34:14 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:34:16 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:34:23 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:34:26 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:34:46 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:34:49 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:34:53 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:34:58 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:35:01 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:35:08 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:35:14 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:35:15 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:35:17 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:35:27 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:35:30 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:35:39 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:35:45 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:35:48 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:36:12 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
...

I can't see who they're from, however. I'm guessing that was added 
since December 5th, which is the last time I updated my production 
grid (or maybe I need to set something, so the addresses show).


Given that my grid has a region that's a popular HG hub, and that many 
people have taken copies of the gate I have out, that's configured to 
bring them to my grid, I imagine that some of what I'm seeing are 
those gates checking to see that my grid is up. However, I think the 
majority of it (in addition to the ~80 gates to other grids) is likely 
to be the roller-coaster I have set up in that region ... I have 100 
Blamgates, laying horizontally, up in the sky. There is a gate on the 
ground, that rezzes you just above the first of them, and you fall 
into it. Then it sends you to just above the next one, and so on, 
until you get to the last gate which puts you back where you started. 
It's quite a wild ride that lasts for about a minute. :) Anyway, all 
of them are of the check the destination type of gate, so I imagine 
I'm doing most of it to myself. :) Oh, if you ever want to try the 
roller-coaster, look for the gate labelled 101, in Eld2. :)


What might be nice is a simple way of turning off just this one message.

-ste
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Re: [Opensim-users] Anyone recognise versanet.de or 94.135.203.122

[Diva Canto]

Ai's log shows a probe originating from the same IP address 
(94.135.203.122) every minute and a half. If this address is yours, 
please consider dialing this down. If I see this level of spam coming 
into my grids, I will block the originating IP.


On 1/11/2015 9:50 AM, Shaun T. Erickson wrote:
As do my gates - hence 24 times a day. That's very low. But if many 
people are using a copy of your teleporter or my gate and have them 
configured to, say, a popular grid,  then they will of course, see a 
lot more than 24 a day. Or maybe there's someone out there who made a 
device that checks more often than ours ...


-ste

On 1/11/15 12:38 PM, Diva Canto wrote:

My teleporting device probes every hour.

On 1/11/2015 9:34 AM, Shaun T. Erickson wrote:

I got that feature from *your* teleport booth, Diva. :)

I don't think my address pinging another 24 times in one day is a 
lot, really. However, if you get tons doing that, then perhaps.


-ste

On 1/11/15 12:17 PM, Diva Canto wrote:
I think it's a lot. Ppl writing these hypergates should be a little 
more restrained. There's no need to spam.


On 1/11/2015 9:00 AM, Shaun T. Erickson wrote:

On 1/11/15 5:53 AM, Ai Austin wrote:



From: Shaun T. Erickson s...@smxy.org

What kind of traffic is it? My Blamgates check their 
destinations once
an hour - perhaps they are doing something similar, but at a 
greater

frequency? Just a wild guess, though.



Thanks Shauin, and yes from the port numbers begin used I expect 
it is indeed some scripts to check for things benign alive or 
pinging hypergates, etc.


I wondered if anyone recognized the 191 second interval as well 
as the IP address.


Once an hour is not too bad.. and I see four or five such IP 
addresses one of which might be your blam gate for us.. e.g. 
65.78.40.167


But every 191 seconds means my Robust.exe console is now full up 
with these debug messages when I check things every so often... 
yes I know I can turn that down to INFO only being shown..


Samples below...  !!

08:55:32 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest from 94.135.203.122:63188
08:57:53 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest from 94.135.203.122:63260
[SNIP]
Once an hour is not too bad.. and I see four or five such IP 
addresses one of which might be your blam gate for us.. e.g. 
65.78.40.167


Yes, that's my address. :)

You think every 191 seconds is a lot? My grid sees one of these 
every few seconds:


...
11:33:34 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:33:37 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:33:40 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:33:44 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:33:48 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:33:52 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:33:55 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:34:07 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:34:14 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:34:16 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:34:23 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:34:26 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:34:46 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:34:49 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:34:53 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:34:58 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:35:01 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:35:08 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:35:14 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:35:15 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:35:17 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:35:27 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:35:30 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:35:39 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:35:45 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:35:48 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
11:36:12 - [Wifi]: DefaultRequest
...

I can't see who they're from, however. I'm guessing that was added 
since December 5th, which is the last time I updated my production 
grid (or maybe I need to set something, so the addresses show).


Given that my grid has a region that's a popular HG hub, and that 
many people have taken copies of the gate I have out, that's 
configured to bring them to my grid, I imagine that some of what 
I'm seeing are those gates checking to see that my grid is up. 
However, I think the majority of it (in addition to the ~80 gates 
to other grids) is likely to be the roller-coaster I have set up 
in that region ... I have 100 Blamgates, laying horizontally, up 
in the sky. There is a gate on the ground, that rezzes you just 
above the first of them, and you fall into it. Then it sends you 
to just above the next one, and so on, until you get to the last 
gate which puts you back where you started. It's quite a wild ride 
that lasts for about a minute. :) Anyway, all of them are of the 
check the destination type of gate, so I imagine I'm doing most 
of it to myself. :) Oh, if you ever want to try the 
roller-coaster, look for the gate labelled 101, in Eld2. :)


What might be nice is a simple way of turning off just this one 
message.


-ste


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Re: [Opensim-users] about OpenSim GRID security.

[Diva Canto]

Not sure if this will make it to 0.8, but I recently added HTTP 
authentication to all robust-bound connectors of internal grid services. 
HTTP authentication is not hard security, but it makes it much harder 
for unauthorized accesses to the grid services. (I, too, run a grid with 
simulators in different data centers.)


On 6/2/2014 4:16 PM, David Saunders wrote:

GRid Security?

Well there is a lacking of  it. I been working on a ways to prevent 
grids/Simulators to connect to our network.  Its built around allowing 
sims to authenticate with a configuration server that will open the 
door for them to connect to the grid services.  But I not found a list 
of ports that need to open for clients to use,  and been testing a 
list simulator ports to splite the services from the client to a 
public set of ports and the simulator a set of private port that can 
be open when they connect.


 This would be easy if we did not allow trusted remote simulators to 
connect.


When I asked about security lasst I was given you keep the ports a 
secret and only give them out to people you trust.


A locked door is moor sure the a unlocked door behind a bush.

David.


On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Shaun T. Erickson s...@smxy.org 
mailto:s...@smxy.org wrote:


A good firewall config will handle much of it.

-ste


On 6/1/14, 6:29 AM, Luisillo Contepomi wrote:

I dont know if exist or not this list but I think it would be
very interesting.
OpenSimulator is a Alpha declarated by developers but  I
think that
the project has enough maturity to start thinking seriously about
security.


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