Re: [osol-discuss] [laptop-discuss] Intel Wireless 4965 support

2008-04-30 Thread Stephen Lau
I tried with the SUNWiwk driver from snv_87 and it seems to be noticably 
better now...

Quaker Fang wrote:
> Hi Stephen,
>
> Please file a bug against this, and please describe the details of 
> your AP's configuration.
> I have a T61 on hand, I will try to steup an env like yours.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -- 
> Quaker
>
> Stephen Lau wrote:
>> Hi Quaker,
>>I tried this again with the OpenSolaris RC2 release (which claims 
>> to be onnv_86), and still observed really really slow/poor performance.
>>
>> cheers,
>> steve
>>
>> Quaker Fang wrote:
>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>
>>> You may hit CR6677167, it has been fixed in snv_86, please upgrade 
>>> to latest build, then have a try.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Quaker
>>>
>>> Stephen Lau wrote:
 Hi Geeta,
 pkginfo -l SUNWiwk says "VERSION: 11.11,REV=2008.03.17.17.33", 
 this is on an Lenovo Thinkpad T61 running snv_81.  I notice 
 occasionally I get bursts of higher-speed, but most of the time it 
 seems quite slow (around 10kB/sec).
 cheers,
 steve

 Krishna, Geetanjali wrote:
  
> Steve,
>
> Performance runs done by Brian Xu had showed much better results:
>
> 1. ftp
> get/put 2 GigaByte file with speed 3200KB/s or so
> 2. ttcp performance
> 6 sessions - 65000 data length - bi direction, we get rate 22-25Mb/s.
>
> Could you post more details of the configuration you are using so 
> we can
> investigate further? Did you use version 1.0 or 1.1 of the driver?
>
> Most of the wireless discussions take place on the laptop-discuss
> mailing list so I am copying that list as well.
>
> Thanks,
> Geeta
>  
>
> 
>
>> I've run it on snv_81.  Seems to work (with WPA2 Personal), but it's
>> deathly slow.  I haven't been able to get more than 10kB/sec out 
>> of it.
>>
>> -steve
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Re: [osol-discuss] [laptop-discuss] Intel Wireless 4965 support

2008-04-30 Thread Quaker Fang
Hi Stephen,

Please file a bug against this, and please describe the details of your 
AP's configuration.
I have a T61 on hand, I will try to steup an env like yours.

Thanks,

--
Quaker

Stephen Lau wrote:
> Hi Quaker,
>I tried this again with the OpenSolaris RC2 release (which claims 
> to be onnv_86), and still observed really really slow/poor performance.
>
> cheers,
> steve
>
> Quaker Fang wrote:
>> Hi Stephen,
>>
>> You may hit CR6677167, it has been fixed in snv_86, please upgrade to 
>> latest build, then have a try.
>>
>> -- 
>> Quaker
>>
>> Stephen Lau wrote:
>>> Hi Geeta,
>>> pkginfo -l SUNWiwk says "VERSION: 11.11,REV=2008.03.17.17.33", 
>>> this is on an Lenovo Thinkpad T61 running snv_81.  I notice 
>>> occasionally I get bursts of higher-speed, but most of the time it 
>>> seems quite slow (around 10kB/sec).
>>> cheers,
>>> steve
>>>
>>> Krishna, Geetanjali wrote:
>>>  
 Steve,

 Performance runs done by Brian Xu had showed much better results:

 1. ftp
 get/put 2 GigaByte file with speed 3200KB/s or so
 2. ttcp performance
 6 sessions - 65000 data length - bi direction, we get rate 22-25Mb/s.

 Could you post more details of the configuration you are using so 
 we can
 investigate further? Did you use version 1.0 or 1.1 of the driver?

 Most of the wireless discussions take place on the laptop-discuss
 mailing list so I am copying that list as well.

 Thanks,
 Geeta
  

 
 
> I've run it on snv_81.  Seems to work (with WPA2 Personal), but it's
> deathly slow.  I haven't been able to get more than 10kB/sec out 
> of it.
>
> -steve
>
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Re: [osol-discuss] Help with Compiz

2008-04-30 Thread heather valentine
alanc

hi

i had tried the test version of Solaris
Everything seemed ok with Compiz
it looked nice.

My drive mapping was different then it is now.

i was unhappy about Mplayer being absent there,
and not being able to play avi with totem.
There was no xvid packaging was there either.

The packages i normally use now on Solaris 10 or Solaris Express
>From ocean. did not work on the Solaris test system

i felt like i was using Ununtu with that package manager there

i hope the final version has all that working properly
 
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] [laptop-discuss] Intel Wireless 4965 support

2008-04-30 Thread Stephen Lau
Hi Quaker,
I tried this again with the OpenSolaris RC2 release (which claims to 
be onnv_86), and still observed really really slow/poor performance.

cheers,
steve

Quaker Fang wrote:
> Hi Stephen,
>
> You may hit CR6677167, it has been fixed in snv_86, please upgrade to 
> latest build, then have a try.
>
> -- 
> Quaker
>
> Stephen Lau wrote:
>> Hi Geeta,
>> pkginfo -l SUNWiwk says "VERSION: 11.11,REV=2008.03.17.17.33", 
>> this is on an Lenovo Thinkpad T61 running snv_81.  I notice 
>> occasionally I get bursts of higher-speed, but most of the time it 
>> seems quite slow (around 10kB/sec).
>> cheers,
>> steve
>>
>> Krishna, Geetanjali wrote:
>>  
>>> Steve,
>>>
>>> Performance runs done by Brian Xu had showed much better results:
>>>
>>> 1. ftp
>>> get/put 2 GigaByte file with speed 3200KB/s or so
>>> 2. ttcp performance
>>> 6 sessions - 65000 data length - bi direction, we get rate 22-25Mb/s.
>>>
>>> Could you post more details of the configuration you are using so we 
>>> can
>>> investigate further? Did you use version 1.0 or 1.1 of the driver?
>>>
>>> Most of the wireless discussions take place on the laptop-discuss
>>> mailing list so I am copying that list as well.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Geeta
>>>  
>>>
>>> 
>>>  
 I've run it on snv_81.  Seems to work (with WPA2 Personal), but it's
 deathly slow.  I haven't been able to get more than 10kB/sec out of 
 it.

 -steve

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Re: [osol-discuss] xntp interval

2008-04-30 Thread Darren Dunham
NTP adjusts the clock constantly.  What changes is the poll intervals.  Unless 
you override it, it will begin polling servers at 64 second intervals.  If the 
clock is stable and the links to the remote clocks are good, it will raise the 
interval to a maximum of 1024 seconds between polls.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Passwd not able to updated Centerlize LDAP Server

2008-04-30 Thread Lars Tunkrans
> I have[b]openldap[/b]   running  on solaris 10 x86 server
> with all system users are migrated on LDAP TREE.!.
> I configure client on other solaris 10 x86 server.

WHy ?There  are  perfectly  usable  working  Native Solaris   LDAP 
Servers  and  client .   They have worked   since  Solaris 8  . 

If you need  OpenLDAP   support   ask   at  www.openldap.org 


//Lars
 
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] what to do with the questions

2008-04-30 Thread Lars Tunkrans
Hi, 

  I have been looking at the help forum for these past months.  

  Lots of  problems are  networking.  these can be categorised as :

  1)   Missing  entry in /etc/driver_aliasesfor a particular  NIC  with an 
otherwise  supported driver.

 2)  The enduser  is ignorant of NICs  and Drivers  and has  a unsupported NIC. 
 Or even worse  a Laptop  with a builtin  unsupported NIC. 
 
 3)  User error  in configuration. 

  
  Second  recurring question   is  the  missing ATAPI  support in the nv-sata  
driver. 



 Last month  has seen  a growing  trend  with non-english  questions that never 
 receives an answer.   
One soulution I can suggest  is that  people will be encouraged  to ask local 
language
questions in the user group forums  as these mail are sent out to the usergroup 
members. 
It seems likely that an answer  will arrive faster that way. 


If  permission can be granted.I think we should  take the Solaris FAQ   
from BIGADMIN  and just expand it. 

http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/content/misc/solaris2faq.html

  
  //Lars
 
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] versioning of opensolaris

2008-04-30 Thread Akhilesh Mritunjai
Hi

> 1. Are version numbers of Opensolaris and version
> number of Solaris line synchronized, or separate ?

No. Both are separate projects. Think Fedora and RHEL.

> 2. Where can I see timeline of releases, by recent
> years, of OpenSolaris and of Solaris, with version
> numbers ?

For Solaris, you can check on Wikipedia. For OpenSolaris, checkout the timeline 
page, but there are several distributions and you'd only find out SXCE, SXDE 
and Indiana at opensolaris.org. Rest have their own websites.

> 3. Are version number of the kernels separate from
> version numbers of distros, or same ?  Are version
> number of Opensolaris kernels synchronized with
> version numbers of SOlaris kernels, or separate ?

There are no "separate" version numbers.
Solaris/OpenSolaris are similar in this regard to *BSD. The whole "thing" is 
kernel + userland ==> distro. The "distribution" has build/version numbers. 
Individual components have revision numbers (changelog#).

> 4. Is whole solaris kernel opensourced, or only parts
> of kernel ?

Kernel can't be talked in isolation when talking about Solaris/OpenSolaris. All 
the kernel bits are opensource, but some userland tools (eg. CDE) and other 
stuff too old/too encumbered isn't yet (and probably won't - they'd be 
removed/rewritten/replaced).

Basically:

Solaris : OpenSolaris :: RHEL : Fedora

And OpenSolaris "system" is like *BSD "system" where you have the whole thing 
which comprises of kernel AND userland and called as an OS.

I hope I'm correct in this explanation.

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Re: [osol-discuss] versioning of opensolaris

2008-04-30 Thread Bonnie Corwin
Victoria Muntean wrote:
>> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/roadmap/
> This page does not mention a single version number. 

This is not a roadmap of binary distribution releases.  This was 
originally a roadmap outlining when pieces of Solaris and other 
processes and tools would be open sourced and available on opensolaris.org.

This roadmap needs an overhaul but it will still be a roadmap about the 
program, not about the binary distributions.

Bonnie

> 
> How does it compare with Linux where every kernel version has a version 
> number ? Opensolaris versions are not numbered ?
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Re: [osol-discuss] versioning of opensolaris

2008-04-30 Thread James Carlson
Victoria Muntean writes:
> I have several questions to understand how versioning of opensolaris works.

Unfortunately, the question you're asking doesn't really have a clear
answer.  (It seems you're basing your questions on the Linux kernel
numbering scheme and, no, we don't do things quite that way.)

Solaris has had two Major releases: those were the very first SunOS
release decades ago, which was BSD-based, and the Solaris 2.0
SVr4-based release.

Since 2.0 (which was a long time ago as well; circa 1992), we've had
only Minor releases.  Even Solaris 10 is technically a Minor
(compatible) release.

The current bits under development on opensolaris.org are code-named
Nevada, and the current rules for integration (into OS-Net, the core
of the operating system) specify that projects must have Minor release
"binding" -- meaning compatible changes.

The source code could be compiled to produce a "Solaris 11" (another
Minor release) at any time, but I know of no current plans to do so.
(And if I did, this probably wouldn't be the right venue to talk about
it anyway.)

The key issue, though, that makes your questions unanswerable is that
versioning is up to *distributors*.  Those who create distributions
based on OpenSolaris are free to choose content (and create local
changes as well) that represent a range of possible release bindings
and thus completely different numbering schemes.

Nobody in OpenSolaris really has the power to force a distributor into
one version numbering scheme or another.  Or any at all.

That includes the "uname" output, which distributors may (and probably
should) change to suit local tastes.  The default output says "5.11,"
but since that's not part of any released Sun product[1], that may
well be untrue.

> 1. Are version numbers of Opensolaris and version number of Solaris line 
> synchronized, or separate ?

Neither.  There's currently no version numbering (other than Mercurial
changeset numbers) going on with OpenSolaris.

> 2. Where can I see timeline of releases, by recent years, of Opensolaris and 
> of Solaris, with version numbers ?

You can't see any for OpenSolaris, but for Solaris, google finds many
references.  A good one is:

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solaris_Operating_System

Some of the distributions (such as Sun's "Solaris Express Community
Edition") have a build number that's based on the biweekly builds done
by the Sun release engineers.  Some distributions seem to follow that
build numbering scheme, but nobody really compels any distributor to
use it.

For the biweekly schedule used in OS-Net, see:

  http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/on/schedule/

> 3. Are version number of the kernels separate from version numbers of 
> distros, or same ?  Are version number of Opensolaris kernels synchronized 
> with version numbers of SOlaris kernels, or separate ?
> 
> 4. Is whole solaris kernel opensourced, or only parts of kernel ?

See:

  http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/roadmap/conslist/

There are only a very few things (such as CDE) that aren't available
due to licensing problems.  (And, no, we generally can't do anything
about those few unavailable parts.  Complaining upstream would be more
productive.  :-<)


[1] There are murky areas here, such as OpenSolaris Developer Preview,
that I don't understand.

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Re: [osol-discuss] versioning of opensolaris

2008-04-30 Thread Victoria Muntean
> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/roadmap/
This page does not mention a single version number. 

How does it compare with Linux where every kernel version has a version number 
? Opensolaris versions are not numbered ?
 
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] Problema Java Desktop system,release 3

2008-04-30 Thread Ether.pt
SInce your start kde, you have third party software installed ... check the 
libraries installed.. maybe one has corrupted the original.

Regards
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Re: [osol-discuss] versioning of opensolaris

2008-04-30 Thread Ether.pt
> I have several questions to understand how versioning
> of opensolaris works.
> 
> 1. Are version numbers of Opensolaris and version
> number of Solaris line synchronized, or separate ?
> 
> 2. Where can I see timeline of releases, by recent
> years, of Opensolaris and of Solaris, with version
> numbers ?
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/roadmap/

> 3. Are version number of the kernels separate from
> version numbers of distros, or same ?  Are version
> number of Opensolaris kernels synchronized with
> version numbers of SOlaris kernels, or separate ?
Right now I think that the builds identify the kernel version.
About Major versions ... the 1 is going out this month or the next I think.

> 4. Is whole solaris kernel opensourced, or only parts
> of kernel ?
http://cvs.opensolaris.org/source/

> Thanks
> Viki
 
 
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[osol-discuss] versioning of opensolaris

2008-04-30 Thread Victoria Muntean
I have several questions to understand how versioning of opensolaris works.

1. Are version numbers of Opensolaris and version number of Solaris line 
synchronized, or separate ?

2. Where can I see timeline of releases, by recent years, of Opensolaris and of 
Solaris, with version numbers ?

3. Are version number of the kernels separate from version numbers of distros, 
or same ?  Are version number of Opensolaris kernels synchronized with version 
numbers of SOlaris kernels, or separate ?

4. Is whole solaris kernel opensourced, or only parts of kernel ?

Thanks
Viki
 
 
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[osol-discuss] what to do with the questions

2008-04-30 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Just thinking...seems every question that's not nonsense should
ideally have _some_ value in answering it (over and above to the
person asking):

* if it crops up a lot, it could be a FAQ entry somewhere, as well as
  something that needs to be more easily found in the documentation

* if it's nontrivial user error, perhaps that's suggestive of an opportunity
  to improve some documentation or offer some training (whether by the
  user paying for it, or a user group sponsoring it, or free online training, or
  whatever)

* if it's a real problem, there should be a bug report

* if it's something that's not currently possible, perhaps there should be an 
RFE

etc (which is to say that the above list itself should be subject to growth and
revision as needed).

I think stats are kept on code (and documentation?) contributions.  Perhaps
if stats were kept on the disposition of questions, it would be possible to
quantify more benefits, identify more strengths, weaknesses, and opportunities,
substantively refute cynicism (or at least respond to it), and visibly do a more
systematic job of both getting the maximum value out of user input, and
minimizing repetitive questions.

To do that without being too burdensome would take a decent database app,
designed to help avoiding duplicate entries.  And it would take a procedure,
something like: asker identifies which answer(s) were conclusive for them,
and either the asker or one of the major contributors to the answer enters
the question, answer, and (optionally) suggested long-term measure to keep
the question from needing to be asked again.

In a free support environment, I think the asker should summarize, otherwise
they're more like a parasite than a symbiote.  In a paid support environment,
or if both the value of the question/answer and the expertise to summarize it
effectively are more apparent to the responder, then perhaps they should
summarize.  IMO at a dead minimum though, the asker should consider
themselves responsible to either indicate what answer(s) they considered
responsive, or that they've given up.  Otherwise, the Q&A wanders or just
fades away pointlessly.

Maybe that could be done on a wiki rather than a database app - it would need
to be widely editable rather than burdening just a few privileged people; and
a wiki can still be "protected" by simply reverting unreasonable changes.
How it could be organized though (depending only on question and short-term
answer, since the suggested long-term response might be absent or revised),
that's where I run out of ideas.

Maybe that's all it takes, thinking about how to capture the value of feedback
and interaction, putting out some guidelines (and revising them as needed),
and (time permitting) encouraging people to add or update wiki entries.
It's not about one more hoop to jump, it's about giving just a bit of structure
to the _opportunity_ to capture that value.
 
 
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