Re: [osol-discuss] [zfs-discuss] Another MPT issue - kernel crash
On 5/05/10 10:42 PM, Bruno Sousa wrote: Hi all, I have faced yet another kernel panic that seems to be related to mpt driver. This time i was trying to add a new disk to a running system (snv_134) and this new disk was not being detected...following a tip i ran the lsitool to reset the bus and this lead to a system panic. MPT driver : BAD TRAP: type=e (#pf Page fault) rp=ff001fc98020 addr=4 occurred in module mpt due to a NULL pointer dereference If someone has a similar problem it might be worthwhile to expose it here or to add information to the filled bug , available at https://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=15879 That's an already-known CR, tracked in Bugster. I've updated defect.o.o and transferred your info to the Bugster CR, 6895862. Until the nightly inside-outside bugs.o.o sync up it'll still show up as closed, but don't worry, I've re-opened it. James C. McPherson -- Senior Software Engineer, Solaris Oracle http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [zfs-discuss] Another MPT issue - kernel crash
On 5/05/10 10:42 PM, Bruno Sousa wrote: Hi all, I have faced yet another kernel panic that seems to be related to mpt driver. This time i was trying to add a new disk to a running system (snv_134) and this new disk was not being detected...following a tip i ran the lsitool to reset the bus and this lead to a system panic. MPT driver : BAD TRAP: type=e (#pf Page fault) rp=ff001fc98020 addr=4 occurred in module mpt due to a NULL pointer dereference If someone has a similar problem it might be worthwhile to expose it here or to add information to the filled bug , available at https://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=15879 That's an already-known CR, tracked in Bugster. I've updated defect.o.o and transferred your info to the Bugster CR, 6895862. Until the nightly inside-outside bugs.o.o sync up it'll still show up as closed, but don't worry, I've re-opened it. James C. McPherson -- Senior Software Engineer, Solaris Oracle http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-code] source code for specific builds
On 30/04/10 12:59 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: Pardon the top post but old Sun Convergence is hardly user friendly sometimes :-) Re : http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/b138/ So then, six days later now. I have seen this : http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/website-discuss/2010-April/006490.html Which seems to indicate that the downloads for closed bits of snv_138 are held back due to a server not being in a rack ? Is that what I am to understand ? Strangely I can see snv_137 but not snv_138. Clearly this is not the same server unless it does quantum mechanical http tunnel through air connections from where ever it may be. No problem, please feel free to publish those bits to the community run genunix.org server and then you won't have these pesky delays again due to some server not being in a rack. If license is the issue then just grab any server that is currently still up and publishing files for download. After all, this is a community based project and I am sure that in a community we can get a simple web server up and running for people to get key components that are needed to build OpenSolaris(tm) based distros right ? Or, am I missing something ? You are missing two pieces: (1) The way we get files from inside the firewall to dlc.sun.com is through a staging server. It's this system which has been down for a larger chunk of time than anticipated. (2) # ### # ## # # # # # # # # # ## # # # # # # # # # # # # ### # # # # # # # # ### ### # # # ### We have Requirements which we *must* meet before files can be sent outside the firewall. Simply saying oh, just dump it on genunix.org ignores the reality of the system under which we are able to operate. Remember, this isn't just a bunch of people with no corporate oversight doing whatever, this is a community where a large component of the people who provide the code have constraints placed on what is permitted by corporate lawyers, corporate policies and even the US SEC (and other SEC-equivalents). You don't screw around with those constraints. James C. McPherson -- Senior Software Engineer, Solaris Oracle http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [driver-discuss] Project Proposal: starfish
Hi Ada, Ada wrote: Project Proposal:starfish The Starfish project's primary goal is to create synergy between OpenSolaris and NetBeans / Sun Studio, by leveraging the NetBeans / Sun Studio IDE to assist with OpenSolaris driver and kernel development. The sponsoring community group would be the Device Drivers group. About starfish: Starfish is an add-in module for NetBeans / SunStudio which currently features * scsi hba, nic and raid hba device driver generation from wizard * device driver package and ITU image generation * GUI environment for remote machine kernel level debugging * OpenSolaris source code download and update * OpenSolaris manpage searching * nightly build configuration and invocation * installation DVD creation with new / updated drivers For the next prototype we expect to add * source code cross reference search * sata hba driver engine * many more sample drivers * enhanced integration with debugging tools * driver source code checking Could I create a new project page on Device Driver Community? I think you need three +1 vote to get started as a project. I vote +1 to this project proposal. Who will be the project leads? cheers, James C. McPherson -- Senior Kernel Software Engineer, Solaris Sun Microsystems http://blogs.sun.com/jmcp http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [driver-discuss] Project Proposal: starfish
Masa Murayama wrote: - Original Message - This has the necessary +1's from the device driver community. It's good. Project setup, will you please set up the starfish project with the device driver community as sponsoring CG? Sorry, what is CG? I'd like to help it as long as time I can spend and my English ability :-). Community Group - in this case it's the Device Driver Community. James C. McPherson -- Senior Kernel Software Engineer, Solaris Sun Microsystems http://blogs.sun.com/jmcp http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [desktop-discuss] Plea: Can anyone please help me/ lend me a box for KDE4/Solaris builds?
Michal Bielicki wrote: James C. McPherson wrote: Manish Chakravarty wrote: I am _seriously _ falling short on hardware requirements while trying to build KDE4 on Solaris I have _one_ machine right now, a sub notebook ( the Acer Aspire 2920) It takes more than half a day to go through the build. Even for incremental builds, turnaround time is way too much! ( min: half an hour or so ) Sun does not have the try-and-buy scheme in India other wise would have gotten myself a Sun Ultra 25/45 for this purpose. [snip] Hi Manish, this sounds like exactly the sort of thing that the OpenSolaris test farm was setup to enable. Please have a look at http://opensolaris.org/os/community/testing/ and http://test.opensolaris.org/ [snip] I was searching for that, its really hard to find. Now that I found it I would like to ask if someone could expand on the rules for accessing that farm. Is it for people that work on accepted projects only, like kde-solaris ? Is it accessible also for people that port software to opensolaris and would like a testrun ? If yes I'd like to add a doc for that to the software porters community. Hi Michal, Jim Walker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is the OpenSolaris Test lead engineer, I've forwarded your email to him. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog http://blogs.sun.com/jmcp Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] code review request
Hi all, I'm working with Jason (jbk on #opensolaris) to integrate his unencumbered libdisasm for sparc. We're ready to get code review done, so if you have the time we'd appreciate your comments on the webrev: http://cr.opensolaris.org/~jmcp/libdisasm_sparc/ The bugs and rfes that we're resolving with this change are 6596739 need non-encumbered libdisasm.so.1 for sparc 6396410 Update dis for preferred assembly language syntax 4751282 fp conversion ops decode registers incorrectly 4767086 fmovrq registers decoded wrong 4767091 pixel compare source registers decoded wrong 4767154 Registers for fmul8x16, fmul8sux16, fmul8ulx16 decoded wrong. 4658958 dis misrepresents invalid opcodes Thankyou in advance, James C. McPherson -- Senior Kernel Software Engineer, Solaris Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] This is not a Solaris helpdesk
Alan Burlison wrote: Alan Burlison wrote: OK, here's a first stab, not currently linked to from anywhere else on the site. http://www.opensolaris.org/os/newbies/ Updated with Brian's list of links. Is it ok to mention this on blogs yet, or should I/we/... wait until it's solidified a bit more? James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Which reason will cause thi error?
snow wrote: Thanks! I passed no flags to modload.And I try the flag '-p',but the error is alike The original error that you saw was can't load module, no such file or directory Which is caused by modload not finding the driver that you wanted to load. farnarkle:tmp $ modinfo |grep -is sgen farnarkle:tmp $ su root -c ' modload sgen' Password: can't load module: No such file or directory farnarkle:tmp $ su root -c ' modload /kernel/drv/amd64/sgen' Password: farnarkle:tmp $ modinfo |grep -i sgen 261 f7fc3000 4980 145 1 sgen (SCSI generic driver 1.16) Solution: give modload the absolute path to the module which you want loaded. You could have figured this out for yourself by reading the manual page for modload. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Sun to make Solaris more Linux like
UNIX admin wrote: ... Mostly what you have in the latter scenario are Windows/UNIX well rounded system administrators which have never seen a 50-pin narrow SCSI cable before. I'm not kidding, that's a true story also. Now, the link between the 50-pin narrow SCSI cable and Solaris might not be readily apparent... let me guess - backwards and forwards compatibility, using published and well documented standards... James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Sun to make Solaris more Linux like
Ceri Davies wrote: On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 03:01:32PM -0700, MC wrote: Two things: Improvement can only take place with change or supplementation. If something does not improve, it will be replaced by superior alternatives. Sun wants Solaris to be successful, so change (or supplementation) must occur. If POSIX told you to hang yourself, you wouldn't do it, right? :) I think the major point for Ian to be be taking away from here is that if he thought he could turn up to Sun and change the default behaviour of Solaris because nothing would break probably and gee it up by putting a bunch of exclamation points in his emails to the community then he probably joined the wrong company. Sun has users that depend on the default behaviour of Solaris, they're the users who've spent all the money so far (because apparently nobody else gives Sun any money due to csh) and breaking their stuff, or making them even question whether their stuff is going to break, is a very bad idea indeed. I hope that the Chief OS Platform Strategist at Sun has some better ideas than what is basically marketecture, and marketecture that looks like it may alienate a large proportion of the current user base at that. Anyway, I will try to shut up now, I think my position is reasonably clear :) Definitely. I don't think Ian walked in all naive and expected to change everything. Sure, he still has to prove himself - we all do when we join a community - but Sun does not (in my experience) generally appoint people to C-level positions without those people being thoroughly researched prior to interviewing, and those people are smart enough to do their research as well. I'm optimistic about Ian can and will achieve for OpenSolaris and I don't think he's going to screw us over. From what I've read so far, I think he is very well aware that care is needed. cheers, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Sun to make Solaris more Linux like
Ian Murdock wrote: On 5/10/07, James C. McPherson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: frank wang wrote: Sun will keep two universes, 1 is Linux alike, the other Solaris alike. User can just pick what they like or are familiar with. But it can't replace the efforts to scale the train coverage on everyting about Solaris/UNIX. will ??? I doubt it. The ATT and BSD universes reminds me of Pyramid systems from 1991. What's wrong with that? The first UNIX I used was Dynix, it had universes (this was right after Sequent switched from BSD to ATT), and I always found the concept to be a simple and elegant way to give users the environment they preferred without forcing one group's preferences on the other group. Isn't that basically what we're after here too? I wasn't trying to say that there was anything wrong with the universe concept. When I made use of that system back in 1991 I thought it was really funky. Of course, having come from a SunOS background I found the BSD universe more to my liking. But I certainly did appreciate that I could have either, on the same machine, and (iirc) I could even have two concurrent login sessions running in each universe. So yes, I do think that's what we're working towards. I did take exception to Frank's assertion that Sun was going to take a particular course of action. As a lurker on the psarc alias I think I know enough to not make such assertions! cheers, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] About Project Indiana
Hi Marc, Marc Hamilton wrote: There has been lots of discussion this week in the press and on this forum about Project Indiana. ... THANKYOU for sending this email. I particularly appreciate the acknowledgement of the importance of our OpenSolaris community in your reply. best regards, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Sun to make Solaris more Linux like
frank wang wrote: Sun will keep two universes, 1 is Linux alike, the other Solaris alike. User can just pick what they like or are familiar with. But it can't replace the efforts to scale the train coverage on everyting about Solaris/UNIX. will ??? I doubt it. The ATT and BSD universes reminds me of Pyramid systems from 1991. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Sun to make Solaris more Linux like
James C. McPherson wrote: frank wang wrote: Sun will keep two universes, 1 is Linux alike, the other Solaris alike. User can just pick what they like or are familiar with. But it can't replace the efforts to scale the train coverage on everyting about Solaris/UNIX. will ??? I doubt it. Frank, I think you are mis-reading / mis-understanding the psarc /usr/gnu case. Simply put: if we don't have a conflict in functionality, dump the gnu version in /usr/bin if we do have a conflict, create /usr/bin/g[blah] as a symlink to /usr/gnu/bin/[blah] Now, as to what Ian is proposing - we'll have to wait and see. I've heard that he had a really really hectic time at JavaOne so it could be a little while. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] About Solaris Express Community Build 65
Girts Zeltins wrote: When approximately will be available Solaris Express Community Build 65? The gate for snv_65 hasn't closed yet - it closes next week. I expect that the community build will be available at the normal time afterwards. It will be based on GNOME 2.18 or GNOME 2.18.1? I think it'll be 2.18, but somebody who is more knowledgeable about Gnome and JDS should really comment. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: qlc or fp drivers? solaris10
shay wrote: Are you sure on the Fcode version, you were at 3.3.117 what version are you trying to go to? I am tring to load the FCode from Not found fcode to FCode version 1.16(isp2312.prom). Also did you run the power off command and power back on the properly for on power on reset, so the firmware loads into the HBA correctly, then you should see a new firmware level with your fcinfo hba-port command? What do you meens about power off power back on? you meens to init 0-power off , then power on? I'm quite concerned that you're using this mailing list as a support option. The sorts of questions that you have been asking here are what you should have logged a call with Sun to answer. That will be a much more efficient way for you to get the knowledge that you need. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Bittorrent client for Solaris
UNIX admin wrote: I use azureus on Solaris 10/x86 without a problem, haven't tried one on nevada yet. Nope, it doesn't work on Solaris for the i86pc platform. And it won't 'compile', either. So much for Java's write once, run anywhere. I'd sure like to know, those of you who got lucky and got it to run, how'd you do it? Someone documented a hack workaround to get it to run, and I've tried it but that didn't work either. Did anybody contact the maker of Azaureus in the menawhile? The problem with Azureus is *not* with Java, but with Azureus' use of the IBM SWT toolkit, which is not generally built for Solaris on x86 or x64. That is IBM's decision, not Sun's. This url provides you with the necessary bits to pull down and use with Azureus: http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.swt.gtk.solaris.x86/ Blastwave has bittorrent packaged for Solaris on x86/x64 and sparc. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Bittorrent client for Solaris
James C. McPherson wrote: ... This url provides you with the necessary bits to pull down and use with Azureus: http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.swt.gtk.solaris.x86/ Acutally, this url provides the bug report which is more useful: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=84344query_format=specificorder=relevance+descbug_status=__open__ James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] qlc or fp drivers? solaris10
shay wrote: hello I have V240 , solaris10, QLA2342(HBA), connected to AMS500(HDS storage). 1. why I cannot see the Luns on PROM? 2. how I descover luns on the PROM? -- Details : -- ok show-devs . /[EMAIL PROTECTED],70/[EMAIL PROTECTED],1 /[EMAIL PROTECTED],70/[EMAIL PROTECTED] . format (the lun is): 4. c3t50060E801022CFD0d0 HITACHI-DF600F--25.00GB /[EMAIL PROTECTED],70/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0 Are you sure that this is attached with qlc? It looks to me as if it's really attached with lpfc or perhaps qla. Either way at obp the qlc/qla/lpfc/emlxs and fp drivers are not active. You could try running probe-scsi-all at obp to see what scsi (fc4) luns are presented to the host by the storage array. As others have said, though, you're asking about Solaris10 and these mailing lists are for OpenSolaris. Have you perused docs.sun.com and the documentation for your hba? James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] qlc or fp drivers? solaris10
Cyril Plisko wrote: On 4/30/07, James C. McPherson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shay wrote: format (the lun is): 4. c3t50060E801022CFD0d0 HITACHI-DF600F--25.00GB /[EMAIL PROTECTED],70/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0 Are you sure that this is attached with qlc? It looks to me as if it's really attached with lpfc or perhaps qla. Both lpfc and qla would bind sd underneath. Here we have ssd. That looks like QLogic card with PC BIOS flashed instead of FCode Yeah, they'll bind with sd underneath, but the OP was talking about probing at obp rather than at the OS level. cheers, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] ZFS W/Next Build ?
Horvath wrote: Will we see zfs in the next coming build ? I know it was promised in 62 but did not make it there. Are you sure that zfs is what you're asking for? ZFS has been in onnv for a heckuvalong time now. Perhaps you're thinking of zfs boot support? If you are, then you need an add-on kit at the moment. The installer groups are still working away on getting install to zfs integrated. cheers, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: installation solaris 10 in SATA HDD, with new configuration
Amey Abhyankar wrote: I am curious to know if you select ZFS file system while installing Solaris 10 on a SATA hdd. Not currently possible. The work required to do this has not been completed yet. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Poor SATA performance on x86
Ola Leifler wrote: I'm aware that this is not an optimal setup for zfs given more hardware resources, but currently I'm constrained by the size of the server box, cost (it's only a home server) and such considerations. My rationale was basically that I wanted the redundancy of a mirror, the ease of filesystem management of zfs and the simple expandability of raidz (in case I add a third disk later). With a mirrored setup, I thought it would be harder to add capacity and keep redundancy with a third disk.. What I'm curious about is why you think that a single-threaded utility can ever be an adequate method of testing filesystem and disk performance. Use one of the well-known and designed disk+filesystem benchmarking tools such as vdbench. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Source problem
Martti Hamunen wrote: What is the reason? ./configure is ok but make not. It is here: # make make all-recursive Making all in po Making all in src source='disc.c' object='disc.o' libtool=no \ DEPDIR=.deps depmode=none /bin/bash ../depcomp \ cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/include -g -c disc.c disc.c, line 33: cannot find include file: mntent.h this is /usr/include/sys/mntent.h, so change line #33 to read #include sys/mntent.h and re-try James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] ZFS, Pkg Update Questions
Horvath wrote: 1. After I installed Solaris do I need to create ZFS ? I've read some info and watched a video about ZFS it seems to be a good filesystem. Why doesn't it come as a default FS then ? Because there's an awful lot of work involved to make it the default. This work covers multiple consolidations, and affects just about everything you might want to consider when it comes to system admin. It's not something which can happen overnight - even with immense efforts by the engineers involved it still takes time. 2. How can I update a package or a program like firefox for instance ? If you're using Solaris Express then pretty much each new build (eg, snv_60) will contain an updated firefox. Otherwise you can go to mozilla.org or a mirror site to download the package. In order to get started with Solaris packages you should read through the Solaris System Administration Guide at docs.sun.com. You can also ask questions on the #opensolaris channel on the freenode irc network. cheers, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: ZFS, Pkg Update Questions
Horvath wrote: 1. So we'll see ZFS as a default FS in the future ? yes 2. How can I convert my current FS (I assume it's UFS that comes as default) to ZFS? Short answer - you need more disks, so that you can create the zpool and zfs, then copy your files across. At the moment there is no way of doing this in-place that I am aware of. 3. I upgraded my snv_59 to snv_60 and Firefox is still 2.0.1 I wonder why. Probably because the desktop team didn't integrate any new build of Firefox. Is it really a deal-breaker if you don't have the latest bleeding-edge version of firefox? James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] more generic firmware download software for Hitachi FC drive?
Richard L. Hamilton wrote: I know there's a downloader in the patch 116464-02, but what I've got is a 2nd-hand DK32EJ-72FC that has NetApp firmware on it, that I just put in my Sun Blade 2000; and (if it's possible without trashing the drive), I'd prefer to put the Sun firmware on it. However, the downloader AFAIK will only download to drives with the expected inquiry data (matching model and such); if the firmware on the drive identifies it otherwise, in this case as Vendor: NETAPP Product: X235_HJURD073F10 Revision: NA06 it will (sensibly enough) leave it alone. Is either (a) the source for the download program in that patch available somewhere, Nope - these things tend to be manufacturer-specific and held tightly. or (b) some other more generic download program available somewhere Not as such, no. There have been requests for such a thing in the past but I don't think they've been accepted - for a variety of reasons. and does anyone know whether the firmware upgrade I have in mind would work? Unlikely - there's no guarantee that the drive vendor hasn't done something funky to enable the NetApp vid/pid/rev, let alone anything else that NetApp as the VAR might want implemented. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] marTux boots on T2000 - Cosmic thanks and regards to Menno Lageman !!
Martin Bochnig wrote: ### ### ## ## Cosmic thanks and regards to Menno Lageman !! ## ### ### Menno Lageman - Sun Microsystems - http://blogs.sun.com/menno has gently invested his weekend and has tested marTux_0.2 on sun4v for us, enjoy: There are are few (easily solvable [wait for marTux_0.3 due until April30th]) issues, but it already boots up: ... Hi Martin, this is excellent news. I just wish that I had a T2000 to play with so I could explore MarTux in style. Makes me wonder, though - has anybody tried booting MarTux on a StarCat (F15K/25K) or StarKitty (F12K/20K) ? cheers, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] where can I download the latest LiveCD image of Solaris Express
Jian-Hua Lin wrote: Where can I download the LiveCD image of Solaris Express? eg, the liveCD image of SDX 1 You can't, because it doesn't exist. Belenix and iirc Nexenta provide LiveCD functionality. One of the things that the Caiman project is working on is LiveCD support. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Elluminate...possible solution?
Alan DuBoff wrote: Folks, I've had this wild idea that we can do better with collaborating, that if we can extend out reach to the network, we could get people involved that are on the opposite side of the globe, like down under (hi JamesM, AlanH!;-), but we want to hear from you folks also...you would get bored listening to us all the time...:-/ I don't have enough time to get this setup this month for our SVOSUG, but trying to convince the speaker for the April meeting to consider using this software, to see if we can pull off a virtual meeting. I've heard that Sun owns a 50 client license for this software, and there's some flash-o-mercials, here's the meeting based software one: http://www.futureu.com/technology/elluminate/resources/elluminate_meetings.swf The software is written in Java, so runs on Solaris. I know that 50 clients can be a problem, but I think if we can get 50 connected online for a meeting, we can then try to get more clients. Would like to get your thoughts! That looks a heckuvalot like Meeting Central whatever the case, I do like the idea of getting together with a Java system like that though. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [osol-announce] Intel Project going live
Glynn Foster wrote: Hi Sherry, Sherry Moore wrote: The Intel Project is now live at http://opensolaris.org/os/project/intel-platform It is a collaboration site for enhancing Solaris performance on Intel platforms, enabling and utilizing new features on Intel processors, accelerating driver availability, and other development efforts for making Solaris the Unix operating system of choice on Intel platforms. Discussion will take place on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please see project page for details. I realize that you may be unable to answer these questions, but there's a couple of things that kind of bug me a little bit - o Core Developers Mailing List Subscription is restricted to people doing actual coding or reviewing. Is this based on a social restriction of wanting a list of good technical content, purely legal that we can't talk about the code in public, or otherwise? o onnv-intel: Anonymous push/pull is disabled. You must either be a leader of this project (or a committer for the onnv-intel repository) to push/pull. Neither of which feels very inclusive, and suggests that quite frankly, this project might not be a good fit for *open*solaris.org. I'd love to hear some perspective on this, and why you made the decisions you did. Agreed. Given Bryan's questions to OGB candidates last week it does make me wonder. Sherry: can we have a [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list as well, and leave the list(s) hosted at opensolaris.org as fully open? Re the hg repo, could we have named pull rather than a blanket you must be blessed restriction? cheers, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [networking-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Proposoal for a new OpenSolaris project: Kernel Sockets
Rao Shoaib wrote: James C. McPherson wrote: Anders Persson wrote: Everyone, There is currently no interface for using sockets within the kernel. However, there is a need for kernel sockets and the currently solution used by developers is to use private interfaces. So I propose to start a new project within the Networking community that would develop a well defined interface for using kernel sockets. Hi Anders, I don't doubt that there is a need for in-kernel sockets, however I don't see any justification from you about why we should have a project created to work on them. Would you provide some explanation (and urls) to back up your proposal please? What is the criteria for creating an open solaris project ? In this part particular case many vendors have asked for kernel sockets on networking-discuss. We want to design/develop the interface in the open so that vendors who will use this interface can provide input in the design and also contribute towards coding. The email was sent to opensolaris-discuss, as well as networking-discuss. I have not seen any traffic about kernel sockets on opensolaris-discuss, and I am not subscribed to networking-discuss. I thought it was quite fair enough to ask for more information. You can't assume that everybody on one list is on the other as well. cheers, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: SuperMicro 7045B/AHCI
Boris Derzhavets wrote: Thank you James. Just one question. Is it possible to track addressing of CRs in upcoming releases ? Of course! Since you know two CR numbers, you can observe their state using bugs.opensolaris.org (and yes, it's a horrible and day-behind interface) http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6491508 http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6532763 For support of a new chipset (or new features within a chipset), you should also watch the ONNV flag day webpage http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/on/flag-days/ cheers James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Proposoal for a new OpenSolaris project: Kernel Sockets
Anders Persson wrote: Everyone, There is currently no interface for using sockets within the kernel. However, there is a need for kernel sockets and the currently solution used by developers is to use private interfaces. So I propose to start a new project within the Networking community that would develop a well defined interface for using kernel sockets. Hi Anders, I don't doubt that there is a need for in-kernel sockets, however I don't see any justification from you about why we should have a project created to work on them. Would you provide some explanation (and urls) to back up your proposal please? cheers, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Errror in OpenSolaris Device Detection Tool
Shawn Walker wrote: On 03/03/07, James C. McPherson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Gendel wrote: I was surprised to find that the ddtool said everything except my modem was supported on my laptop. Then I looked further... The broadcom wireless a/b/g miniPCI card was supported by the aac driver. Isn't that a driver for a RAID disk controller? Yup Sounds like the ddtool needs a little more smarts to ferret out conflicting information. I agree totally. I've got a cheapie dual-port pci serial card which self-identifies with a pci compatible property of pci9710,9835.1000.12.1 The question is, why does it do that? What is the intent of the dual-port pci serial card that makes it list that PCI ID? /me pages in from off-site storage That is a darned good question. I have absolutely no idea. I paid a grab total of about RMB25 (=~ AUD4) for it during my trip to Beijing last year and I'd really like to get it working properly. Don't currently have the time to dive in and debug it though. cheers, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: SuperMicro 7045B/AHCI
Boris Derzhavets wrote: Are OpenSolaris 57 and Solaris Express (community edition) build 57 same things? Actually, my question is :- If I will purchase Solaris Express (community edition) build 59 would I be able to install OS on SATA HDD connected to Intel’s South Bridge (ICH8R) running in AHCI mode ? Hi Boris, The short answer to your question is, I think, no. It appears that ICH8R support is currently a gap. There are at least two CRs filed for it: 6491508 and 6532763 which I hope will be addressed shortly. I don't know which of Sun's teams is working on chipset support though. cheers, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] when was intel wireless support removed from nevada?
Patrick P Korsnick wrote: i just installed sxce last night and saw that iwi support was not there-- i know i can get it from the wireless page, but for the last few releases i remember it just being there. was it removed from the standard install image for this build or an earlier one? just curious... Hi Patrick, iwi has not been integrated yet, so it has not been removed. Support for ipw2100 support was integrated recently, as were pcwl and pcan. Perhaps you have Casper's frkit suite installed? James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] 3 solaris problems
Mohamad Kassem Taha wrote: I’m newbie in solaris and I need to ask couple questions: Firstly, welcome! 1- I’m having a problem installing gcc on my solaris, also the path is a problem I’m getting this error: # ./configure loading cache ./config.cache checking host system type... sparc-sun-solaris2.10 checking target system type... sparc-sun-solaris2.10 checking build system type... sparc-sun-solaris2.10 checking for a BSD compatible install... ./install-sh -c ./configure: cc: not found *** The command 'cc -o conftest -g conftest.c' failed. *** You must set the environment variable CC to a working compiler. You should find a copy of gcc already installed on your system, in /usr/sfw/bin/gcc. Add /usr/sfw/bin to your $PATH and you should be fine. 2- what is the command line in order to know your solaris version /bin/uname -v or /bin/uname -r There are a variety of options to add, so check the uname manpage with man uname 3- I downloaded pkg-get but it seems that it is failing to connect although I did as the readme file said. Pkg-get –I wget Warning: gpg no found Warning : no catalog file for site ibiblio.org Updating catalog file first Getting catalog… --12:35:31—http://ibiblio.org/pub/packages/solaris/csw/unstable/sparc/5.10/catalog à ‘catalog’ Resolving ibiblio.org…done Connecting to ibiblio.org[152.46.7.80]:80…faild:connection timed out You should probably choose a blastwave mirror site closer to you than ibiblio. Have a read through this page http://www.blastwave.org/mirrors.php and once you've done a traceroute or two to the Greek, Czech, Italian and Hungarian mirrors, add their urls into the file /opt/csw/etc/pkg-get.conf then re-try the catalog import 4- it seems that every time I download and install a package after I logout or switch to other user as if nothing is installed because when I use the commands associated with the package it will not work on both root and any user account You need to ensure that the path to the package's binaries is included in your $PATH. You can read more on this in the manpage for whichever shell you are using. If you're stuck, please join us on the #opensolaris irc channel, available on the irc.freenode.net network. cheers, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Errror in OpenSolaris Device Detection Tool
Gary Gendel wrote: I was surprised to find that the ddtool said everything except my modem was supported on my laptop. Then I looked further... The broadcom wireless a/b/g miniPCI card was supported by the aac driver. Isn't that a driver for a RAID disk controller? Yup Sounds like the ddtool needs a little more smarts to ferret out conflicting information. I agree totally. I've got a cheapie dual-port pci serial card which self-identifies with a pci compatible property of pci9710,9835.1000.12.1 This is all well + good, except that pci1000,12 is the LSI53C895A PCI to Ultra2 SCSI Controller ... and by default that's handled by the symhisl scsi driver. I had to rem_drv symhisl and then update_drv to add the pci9710,9835 string to the aliases list for the asy driver. Until this gets fixed, just remember that you should always double-check what the DD Tool prints for your system. cheers, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Sun joins the Free Software Foundation
Richard Nekus wrote: ...something smells in Denmark... :) Yeah ... probably the whole concept of putting one's money where the mouth is. Shocking, that. I'm sure it will never catch on with all the cool kids. Given the increasing involvement that Sun has had with the FSF I've been wondering how long it would be before this happened. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: Fault Management Event Registry
cindi wrote: Some folks could not read the project proposal as an attachment, so let's try this. Cindi This project will export the fault management registry of event specifications and diagnosis article content. The initial delivery to the OpenSolaris community will include the registry contents and a set of CLIs and a web-based browser tools to access event class and payload specifications, diagnosis messages and article details. The initial target audience of this project is system administrators and developers who want a listing of the possible fault diagnosis messages and the event class and payload specifications. ... The OpenSolaris event registry source will be regularly updated to coincide with updates to message IDs at http:///sun.com/msg. Community contributions to the event registry source will be permitted and sponsored for developers contributing fault management error handling and diagnosis software for hardware and software components that are FMA capable and aware. +1 from me. Any news on when the programmer's reference manual might be made available? cheers, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: java kstats
Peter Tribble wrote: I would like to propose a project (jkstat for short) to provide a Java binding to the kstat library, so that system kstats can be accessed from Java applications. The project would aim to provide the basic API and JNI interface, and a set of example tools to demonstrate its use. This would provide a simple mechanism for a java application to gain access to any system kstats, and would allow the construction of graphical system observability tools to display the vast wealth of information collected by kstats. The interface would also allow the Chime DTrace visualization tool to link DTrace probes with kstat data. Initial leaders for this project are myself and Tom Erickson. I have already prototyped an implementation that demonstrates such a project to be both feasible and useful. I would be delighted to receive any comments or suggestions - or code assistance - that would improve the project. See http://www.petertribble.co.uk/Solaris/jkstat.html (Note that this proposal does not imply that my existing prototype is preselected as the implementation to be used for the project, although I believe it to be a useful starting point. It's going to need extensive revision at the very least.) +1 from me. /me starts thinking about a java class to provide errno mappings from /usr/include/sys/errno.h . cheers, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Clock synchronization in distributed servers
K. Srikanth wrote: I would like to know Sun's current implementation of clock sync across distributed Solaris servers and any specific alogorithm used for the same including event sequencing Aren't you in fact asking about ntp? James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Getting rid of CD images for future SX:CE deliveries
John Plocher wrote: It sounds like the answer is probably along the lines of don't do this right now; come back in 6 to 12 months and ask again... Sounds reasonable to me. The most consistent feedback (ok, vats of vitriol) that I get about the OpenSolaris download process is two-fold: 1) why is there no link to the solitary sparc or x86 dvd iso image? People *really* hate having to start 5 or 6 separate downloads when they have the connection to sustain a single iso download. 2) why don't Sun provide a torrent? I believe I know some of the answers/reasons for (2), but it would be *really good* if they could be spelt out on the dlc.sun.com site as well as sun.com/downloads. cheers, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Getting rid of CD images for future SX:CE deliveries
Moinak Ghosh wrote: James C. McPherson wrote: John Plocher wrote: It sounds like the answer is probably along the lines of don't do this right now; come back in 6 to 12 months and ask again... Sounds reasonable to me. The most consistent feedback (ok, vats of vitriol) that I get about the OpenSolaris download process is two-fold: 1) why is there no link to the solitary sparc or x86 dvd iso image? People *really* hate having to start 5 or 6 separate downloads when they have the connection to sustain a single iso download. As a quick fix suggestion the SUN Download Manager can be enhanced to start 1 download streams in parallel for the file segments, unzip and subsequently join them together (and also verify the checksums). This should ease the hate factor. A good suggestion, except that the people who complain to me about it really do not want to be using a java app in order to do a download. wget is where it's at for them. The incrediblylongandwierdlygeneratedrandomdownloadfilenames are also a significant annoyance factor. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] /usr/gnu project?
Laszlo (Laca) Peter wrote: So the /usr/gnu proposal[1] was approved by PSARC. Obviously, the reason for defining /usr/gnu wasn't theoretical -- it allows moving GNU packages from /usr/sfw to /usr or /usr/gnu and it helps us integrating more GNU packages into Solaris. We have already seen the first few putbacks (m4, bison). [snip] I think the GNU Solaris community would be a perfect place for these, if it wasn't a community but a project (or a consolidation?). I propose that we launch a project that aims for creating a repository of spec files that follow the /usr/gnu rules. Sun could pick the packages that we want to integrate into Solaris and support, other packages could be available from opensolaris.org with community support only. Hi Laca, +1e6 from me - this appears to me to be a massive opportunity for the community to really ramp up our delivery of the GNU toolchain and remove one of those major gaps that people complain about. cheers, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: [cab-discuss] Nominating James McPherson for OGB
Joshua Clulow wrote: Greetings, I would like to nominate jmcp (James McPherson) as a candidate for the Governing Board. As a core contributor for the SOSUG (Sydney, AU) Usergroup I've met James several times and frequently converse with him via IRC. He's hard working, knowledgeable, and always happy to help -- as such he is a valuable asset to the OpenSolaris community. If James can find the spare cycles to be on the Board then I feel it would be richer for it. Hi Josh, thankyou for the nomination - I humbly accept. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] which open solaris for a total newbie
Eric Enright wrote: On 2/18/07, brad kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok I have some linux experience (not much) and wanted to learn solaris on my own time without dishing out to sun to do so. I can across this page... http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads/#use and see all these choices. I'd love some opinions on which one you think is the closest to the pay for solaris os...oh and as you might assume I would be installing on a plain old pc...thanks much for your thoughts...once I do this I will next need suggestions on a good book but that is for another thread... There is no pay for Solaris -- it's all free. With Sun's distribution the only thing you pay for is, optionally, support. So you probably want Solaris Express Community Edition. Welcome to the community! Seconding Eric's suggestion, I'd add that you should go and look at the hardware compatibility list at http://sun.com/bigadmin Note that if your hardware is listed as working with Solaris 10 then it's pretty certain to work with Solaris Express unless it is *really really* old. Apart from that, make sure you wander on over to the #opensolaris irc channel on irc.freenode.net where you'll find a lot of people who can and will help you get started, and answer other questions along the way. PS - docs.sun.com is your friend, too :-) cheers, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: which open solaris for a total newbie
brad kelley wrote: thank you so much for the detailed response..actually since I was using fedora I don't know apt I know rpm/yum (well kinda) so I wonder if I should just go to the developer version first..I know the basics of starting stopping services tcpip and some simple networking services (samba dns apache) so I guess I am just a partial newbie...well compared to you guys still a total noob :) Another thing to do is wander over to the immigrants community - www.opensolaris.org/os/community/immigrants which is dedicated to bridging the gap for people who are new to the OS. cheers, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Community participation (was GPLv3 ravings)
I think we can close this thread off with the following carton - seen today at http://xkcd.com/c225.html img src=http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/open_source.png; James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] hardware detection tool
Dennis Clarke wrote: ... http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/hcts/device_detect.html I looked at the XML file that I downloaded and then used wget to fetch the jar file and unzipped it : Did you read the faq for that tool? http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/hcts/device_detect.html#jnlp answers your question. $ /opt/csw/bin/wget http://java.sun.com/webapps/download/GetFile/vvv2/multiple-i586/sddt_1_0.jar $ unzip sddt_1_0.jar Archive: sddt_1_0.jar bt! If you want to run an app delivered via a jar file, run $ java -jar sddt_1_0.jar You can find out more by using google: http://www.google.com.au/search?q=how+do+i+run+a+java+jar+file James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] NV57 fails on bootup on Athlon 64 3500
Jeremy Teo wrote: a successful install of NV57 results in a panic after bootup: error messages as shown below (painstakingly captured by hand) ereport.cpu.amd.nb.wdog ena=204cae318e1 detector=[ version=0 scheme=hc hc-list=[...] ] bank_status=b2070f0f bank-number=4 addr=80180c080 add-valid=0 ip=0 privileged=1 panic[cpu0]/thread=d2dcbde0: Unrecoverable Machine Check Exception d2dcbc9c unix:cmi_mca_trap+46 (d2dcbca8) d2dcbca8 unix:mcetrap+5a (fec301b0, d96f,) d2dcbd00 unix:ddi_io_get8+13 )d5baac00) d2dcbd14 ata:ata_get_status+6f (d5baac00, d2dcbd5c) d2dcbd40 ata:ghd_intr+47 (d5baac94, d2dcbd5c) d2dcbd60 ata:ata_intr+22 (d5baac00,0) d2dcbdac unix:av_dispatch_autovect+69 (f) d2dcbdcc unix:dispatch_hardint+1a(f,0) Any ideas? I've tried force-booting into 32 bit mode, disabling the CPU specific module (mentioned by gavinm some time back), as well as disabling HAL, (suspecting that it may be due to bug 6491248 FWIW, i was installing over a old build of 48 which was working fine. Hi Jeremy, that does look like 6491248 x2100 (Aquarius) crashes when running snv_51. The mce is important, I think. The MCE (Machine Check Exception) indicates that there's something quite weird going on. ereport.cpu.amd.nb.wdog that'll be the watchdog on the northbridge of your cpu. As to why you're getting that ... I don't know for sure but I'm suspecting your cd/dvd datapath. Were you able to capture a crash dump? cheers, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] NV57 fails on bootup on Athlon 64 3500
James C. McPherson wrote: Jeremy Teo wrote: a successful install of NV57 results in a panic after bootup: error messages as shown below (painstakingly captured by hand) ereport.cpu.amd.nb.wdog ena=204cae318e1 detector=[ version=0 scheme=hc hc-list=[...] ] bank_status=b2070f0f bank-number=4 addr=80180c080 add-valid=0 ip=0 privileged=1 panic[cpu0]/thread=d2dcbde0: Unrecoverable Machine Check Exception d2dcbc9c unix:cmi_mca_trap+46 (d2dcbca8) d2dcbca8 unix:mcetrap+5a (fec301b0, d96f,) d2dcbd00 unix:ddi_io_get8+13 )d5baac00) d2dcbd14 ata:ata_get_status+6f (d5baac00, d2dcbd5c) d2dcbd40 ata:ghd_intr+47 (d5baac94, d2dcbd5c) d2dcbd60 ata:ata_intr+22 (d5baac00,0) d2dcbdac unix:av_dispatch_autovect+69 (f) d2dcbdcc unix:dispatch_hardint+1a(f,0) Any ideas? I've tried force-booting into 32 bit mode, disabling the CPU specific module (mentioned by gavinm some time back), as well as disabling HAL, (suspecting that it may be due to bug 6491248 FWIW, i was installing over a old build of 48 which was working fine. Hi Jeremy, that does look like 6491248 x2100 (Aquarius) crashes when running snv_51. Just for the archives - the bug apparently has a workaround (which hasn't made it to the workaround field yet): boot single-user and disable hal / rmvolmgr James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Intel 82562EZ Network Controller support
Girts Zeltins wrote: I will report ID in this week, but how to get ID of controller? Which coomand to use to find ID of controller? Hi Girts, I address this common issue in a blog entry: http://blogs.sun.com/jmcp/entry/how_do_i_find_out and http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/roller/jmcp/entry/how_to_find_my_nic A quick check of the Sourceforge-hosted PCI ident list shows that the Intel 82562EZ controller has these known (possible) entries in the pci 'compatible' table: 8086 Intel Corporation ... 1050 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Controller 1462 728c 865PE Neo2 (MS-6728) 1462 758c MS-6758 (875P Neo) 8086 3020 D865PERL mainboard 8086 302f Desktop Board D865GBF 8086 3427 S875WP1-E mainboard There is an entry for iprb with pci8086,1050 in my /etc/driver_aliases, so the nic should just work once you've got the correct driver alias there. The above two blog entries should get you on your way with minimal fuss. cheers, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: Enable/Enhance Solaris support for Intel Platforms
Sherry Moore wrote: I'd like to propose a project to enable and enhance Solaris support for shipping and future Intel processors and platforms. As we are all aware of, Sun and Intel have formed an alliance to make Solaris the Unix operating system of choice on Intel platforms. We believe the only sensible and the most effective way to pursuit this goal is to do development in the OpenSolaris community. Our first effort will focus on the following areas on Bensley platform, but will be ongoing as new processors and platforms become available: - Performance improvement - CPU feature enabling - Power management support - Virtualization support - FMA support (coming soon) Some of the detailed technical discussions will likely to be conducted in other communities, such as Virtualization, but this project will be the central hub for the collaboration. We encourage contributions from all community members. +1 from me, as long as you can tell me what the Bensley platform is cheers, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: Enable/Enhance Solaris support for Intel Platforms
Mike Kupfer wrote: Ian == Ian Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know about physical access, but we should be able to provide remote root access and remote power cycle, which may get you farther then you think. Ian Yes, that would be OK for testing loadable modules, which I guess Ian most of the features would be. I was thinking of the case where a Ian BFU or kernel change that could brickify the box was required. Those should be relatively rare. If you have a kernel change you're not sure of, use Install -G, and put the kernel in its own tree. Don't use BFU until the kernel changes are stable enough to boot and do another BFU. Otherwise you'll end up observing a well-known entity in the development universe: the warm brick. Been there, done that I should organise a cafepress tshirt James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] CAB/OGB Position Paper # 20070207
Al Hopper wrote: CAB/OGB Position Paper # 20070207 version 0.6 Topic: Should OpenSolaris be dual licensed via CDDL and GPLv3 Published by: OpenSolaris CAB/OGB current members: Casper Dik, Al Hopper, Roy Fielding, Simon Phipps, Rich Teer ... +1e6 at least. Thankyou. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Sun Microsystems Solaris on HP
Paul Maher wrote: I'm a newbie. We have several sun systems we purchased our sun reseller, MCA http://www.mcac.com. We are now migrating some of our applications on to HP servers. Would they support solaris 10? Good question. Care to give details on the boxes you're migrating to and from? James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Community participation (was GPLv3 ravings)
Josh Hurst wrote: On 2/5/07, James C. McPherson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Ok Josh, how about you provide detail on which of those rules Sun is suddenly pushing forward, and why they are mindless. If they truly are mindless then it would be really good for other people to find out why. Few examples: Why is it required to remove .so and lint libraries? You don't do that for X11 even when the API is not public. Why is is necessary to demand the removal of diff files from the source tree even after the project team has begged Sun to leave them in? Why are 3 Arc cases required for one shell? Why does it take that long to get a simple shell added to Solaris? Josh, you haven't actually provided specific details so I really cannot comment on the .so, lint and diff claims. And no, I'm not really interested in wading through many Mb of emails on ksh93 to try to figure out what you're referring to. Regarding ARC issues, I get the distinct impression you do not pay attention to what the relevant ARCs are saying. Their input is very important to the success of both Solaris and OpenSolaris projects. And no, it's not just because the ARCs can act as a sort of gatekeeper. The people who are members of those committees have significant decades of experience not only in the software and hardware engineering fields, but also in computer science, computer security and maths+physics. In my experience, if you address the issues and questions that ARC members raise before you submit an RTI request, then your project has a significantly greater chance of initial success and longer-term maintenance than if you ignore them. cheers, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Community participation (was GPLv3 ravings)
Josh Hurst wrote: On 2/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And how far have the star or ksh projects progressed? The last one appears to be in serious trouble now because Sun has to complain about every little detail and the star project makes either zero progress or no progress announcements. The only problem in the ksh93 project is people who are not part of the project team and who are not participating in the review and who understand bugger all of the processes we created for OpenSolaris and which have worked reasonably well for Sun internally, butting in with inflamatory remarks when there's even the slightest hint of constructive criticism in messages from Sun employees. The major problem with the ksh93 project is Sun Microsystems who is adding more and more mindless rules. Once one task has been finished Sun always comes up with two more items. Which kind of cooperation is this? I really think there are too many rules. They may work within Sun and may even explain the degradation of quality once Sun tries to ship it (re: JDS versus normal Gnome) but this is hardly appropriate for an Open Source project. Ok Josh, how about you provide detail on which of those rules Sun is suddenly pushing forward, and why they are mindless. If they truly are mindless then it would be really good for other people to find out why. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Community participation (was GPLv3 ravings)
Erast Benson wrote: unfortunately, I do not see up-and-to-the-right type of numbers, but at least numbers are steady, this gives me more hopes that it is not to late to fix that if at all possible/needed. On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 19:28 +, Peter Tribble wrote: On 2/1/07, Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK. I'll buy it. Than based on what we can claim that our community is indeed fast-growing, what numbers we should use? If we have such numbers, could somebody provide a comparative statistics during past 6 months? Could it be over-all number of users on mailing lists? How many subscribed/unsubscribed during certain period? Number of downloads may be? There are some metrics: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/marketing/metrics/latest/ Hi Erast, I *really* do not understand why you appear to be so concerned about how large or extensive the OpenSolaris community actually is. Yes, the number of those who would call themselves part of the OpenSolaris community is probably not as large as Linux-adherents, but who really cares? Why does it matter? Having numbers just for sake of a mine is larger than yours style competition is a distraction from the real effort of making OpenSolaris better. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Community participation (was GPLv3 ravings)
S Destika wrote:
[b]Do not reply to me - I read this forum. My email ID is INVALID. Thank
you.[/b]
James C. McPherson wrote:
Hi Erast, I *really* do not understand why you appear to be
so concerned
about how large or extensive the OpenSolaris
community actually
is.
Yes, the number of those who would call themselves
part of the
OpenSolaris community is probably not as large as
Linux-adherents,
but who really cares? Why does it matter?
Well duh..! As a community project one of the measures of success is
definitely community participation and how big it is.
Certainly community participation is essential. Where I disagree
with you is on big -- quality quality quality over volume.
Forgive the expression, but we do *not* need a pissing contest of
my community is bigger than yours therefore mine is better.
If you need reasons - better x86{_64} support, lots of drivers (as a
testament - I have till now failed to install Solaris on any of my 8
x86/64 machines - Linux runs just fine there and recognizes most hardware
thrown at it), quicker resolution of people's problems and addition of
new features/improvements (suspend/resume anyone?), new architecture
support - lots of reasons why OpenSolaris needs larger community. No? You
think what was not possible in last year without community participation
will be possible going forward without community? Do you think Sun
engineers are going to spend their time fixing Joe Random's problems?
You don't actually prove a point here. In a related thread
somebody argued that it was better to have code that kinda
works first, followed by code that mostly works, on most
architectures followed by code that just works(tm).
I believe that proposal got a big thwap in response, and
rightly so.
The size of an OSS community is irrelevant if the community
cannot provide quality code to resolve issues. I include
both bugs *and* RFEs in issues.
I seriously doubt that if you researched the involvement of
Sun engineers in the OpenSolaris community -- and in the
general Solaris from well before OpenSolaris was even a twinkle
in some exec's eyes -- then you would not make that final,
throwaway and uninformed remark.
James C. McPherson
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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Community participation (was GPLv3 ravings)
S Destika wrote: [b]Do not reply to me - I read this forum. My email ID is INVALID. Thank you.[/b] If you cannot be bothered setting up a valid email address for the mailing lists then perhaps you're not really interested in being part of the community. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you? (was Re: [Fwd: Re: [osol-discuss] GPLv3?])
Alan Burlison wrote: [snip Alan's excellent posting] +1 from me. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Need Help on device structure
Masthan, Dudekula (STSD) wrote: Hi All, I opened a device ( in raw mode) and I filled the entire space (from 1 block to last block) with some random data. While writing data, I am seeing the following warning messages in dmesg buffer. Jan 30 08:32:36 masthan scsi: [ID 107833 kern.warning] WARNING: /scsi_vhci/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (ssd175): Jan 30 08:32:36 masthan Corrupt label; wrong magic number Any idea on this ? I thought my application is corrupting device structure (device structure has disk label, partition table..etc). In linux, the first block of the device has device structure. Do you know the blocks which has device structure in solaris ? You answered your own question - you said that you filled the entire device from block 1 to the last block. In doing so you overwrote the disk label. Next time you want to test this device, make sure you skip at least the first block. cheers, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] help with finding the source
Ashok Nair wrote: Hi, During a apptrace one of the function call were mount- librpcsvc.so.1:bool_t xdr_mountres3 Searching under /onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/lib/librpcsvc for xdr_mountres3 resulted in only one match http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/lib/librpcsvc/common/mapfile-vers SUNWprivate_1.1 declaration. How/Where can I find the function definition? I had to do a bit of digging, but I found it in http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/stand/lib/fs/nfs/mount.c#130 cheers, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: help with finding the source
Ashok Nair wrote: Thanks, Can you clarify a bit about how library call to librpcsvc.so.1 can resolve to a function defined in mount.c? I was expecting the function to be defined in librpcsvc.so.1. I dont have any prior experince in the build process. Hi Ashok, sorry, I can't help you with this one - I'm surprised by it too. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: SXCR Build 55 available
Boyd Adamson wrote: ... Before anyone else goes looking like I did, it seems the DeveloperTools directory is NOT there on the SPARC DVD image. Correct, and I don't believe it was supposed to be there either. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: SXCR Build 55 available
Octave Orgeron wrote: Why? Probably best that somebody With Authority (tm) answers that question. /me looks towards Stephen Harpster . cheers, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] ndi calls man page
kiran wrote:
Could anyone please provide me the link for man pages for the ndi calls..
I also want to know under what circumstances does the ndi_devi_online fail??
Hi Kiran,
as far as I can see, the ndi* calls are not documented in the
manpages. I recall that they're mentioned in the Writing Device
Drivers guide on docs.sun.com.
Apart from that, the source for the routine ndi_devi_online(..)
is viewable here:
http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/uts/common/os/devcfg.c#5390
There are two places where a return code != NDI_SUCCESS can be
generated:
5405 ndi_devi_enter(pdip, circ);
5406 /* bind child before merging .conf nodes */
5407 rv = i_ndi_config_node(dip, DS_BOUND, flags);
5408 if (rv != NDI_SUCCESS) {
5409 ndi_devi_exit(pdip, circ);
5410 return (rv);
5411 }
where if the i_ndi_config_node() call fails we'll get a non-success
value for rv, and
5433 /*
5434 * devi_attach_node() may remove dip on failure
5435 */
5436 if ((rv = devi_attach_node(dip, flags)) == NDI_SUCCESS) {
5437 if ((flags NDI_CONFIG) || DEVI_NEED_NDI_CONFIG(dip)) {
5438 (void) ndi_devi_config(dip, flags);
5439 }
5440
5441 if (branch_event)
5442 (void) i_log_devfs_branch_add(dip);
5443 }
where the call to devi_attach_node() may fail.
You should follow through the code paths to determine which
cases your code is seeing.
best regards,
James C. McPherson
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Re: [osol-discuss] Proposal to create an OpenSolaris KDE project
John Sonnenschein wrote: Following the official proposal guidelines, I'd like to take this opportunity to propose that we collaborate with the KDE e.V. and kde-core-devel in order to integrate KDE as an OpenSolaris project +1 I don't particularly like kde, but I see no reason why it should be the poor cousin of Gnome. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Running Solaris and ZFS on Sparc with 128MB of memory
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Sun Ultra 10 with only 128 MB of memory. I intend to run some kind of solaris kernel on it (closed or open) and ZFS - at home, as an experiement. Suggestions? ZFS is only supported by Solaris 10 and Open Solaris. Solaris 10 with ZFS requires 512MB RAM, so that won't work. Yes. Buy more ram. It's very cheap these days. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Running Solaris and ZFS on Sparc with 128MB of memory
Martin Bochnig wrote: James C. McPherson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Sun Ultra 10 with only 128 MB of memory. I intend to run some kind of solaris kernel on it (closed or open) and ZFS - at home, as an experiement. Suggestions? ZFS is only supported by Solaris 10 and Open Solaris. Solaris 10 with ZFS requires 512MB RAM, so that won't work. Yes. Buy more ram. It's very cheap these days. Sol1[0-1] sparc _will_ work with only 128MB of physical mem. and I certainly did not say that it would not. And I can't see a reason, why ZFS should have a problem with it (provided, your hdd's swap slice is big enough). Despite the years of experience with ZFS and how it uses kmem... IMNSHO the bottom line is this - if you want to have a fair crack at seeing what ZFS can do for you, you need a 64bit processor and 1Gb of ram. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Running Solaris and ZFS on Sparc with 128MB of memory
Martin Bochnig wrote: James C. McPherson wrote: Despite the years of experience with ZFS and how it uses kmem... IMNSHO the bottom line is this - if you want to have a fair crack at seeing what ZFS can do for you, you need a 64bit processor and 1Gb of ram. The OP's question had been, whether or not Solaris 10 with ZFS runs __at all__ on his U10 with only 128MB RAM. And clearly my definition of being able to run at all differs from yours. My experience with suggesting system sizing over the years shows that the system's users greatly appreciate being told - from the outset - that they need a more appropriate config. Performance would be the next question (while he did not ask it). Definitely. He should also replace his U10 with a chep Blade 1000 (below $300 these days) then. Agreed, but if the OP does not have the opportunity to do so, adding more ram is the next best thing. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Running Solaris and ZFS on Sparc with 128MB of memory
Dennis Clarke wrote: Martin Bochnig wrote: James C. McPherson wrote: ... IMNSHO the bottom line is this - if you want to have a fair crack at seeing what ZFS can do for you, you need a 64bit processor and 1Gb of ram. let's be more honest and say 4GB of RAM and dual 64-bit procs No, that's not necessary. I am beginning to think that ZFS is a feature of Vista because it seems to eat all available RAM endlessly. My snv_52 machine here has a zpool on it and a few ZFS filesystems. No one is logged in graphically, there is one user, me. I'm doing nothing. Look here : bash-3.1# vmstat 5 kthr memorypagedisk faults cpu r b w swap free re mf pi po fr de sr f0 m5 m6 m7 in sy cs us sy id 0 0 0 1109032 161304 1 5 8 4 4 0 10 -0 0 0 0 539 145 152 0 3 97 0 0 0 920696 23352 1 5 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 738 77 523 0 5 95 0 0 0 920680 23312 1 3 13 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 510 69 116 0 1 99 ^C I would have thought you'd realise that showing a mere 15 seconds worth of vmstat output -- with a 5 second granularity -- is pretty useless to illustrate your point. bash-3.1# bash-3.1# prstat -m -n 5 -c PID USERNAME USR SYS TRP TFL DFL LCK SLP LAT VCX ICX SCL SIG PROCESS/NLWP 1097 root 3.8 13 0.2 14 31 0.0 38 0.2 707 39 3K 0 prstat/1 491 root 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 100 0.0 9 0 19 0 Xsun/1 533 root 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 100 0.0 28 0 49 0 dtgreet/1 543 dclarke 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 100 0.0 3 0 26 0 sshd/1 1014 daemon 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 100 0.0 1 0 1 0 nfsd/2 Total: 51 processes, 197 lwps, load averages: 0.45, 0.20, 0.08 PID USERNAME USR SYS TRP TFL DFL LCK SLP LAT VCX ICX SCL SIG PROCESS/NLWP 1097 root 0.1 0.4 0.0 0.6 1.7 0.0 97 0.0 24 1 162 0 prstat/1 491 root 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 100 0.0 11 0 22 0 Xsun/1 543 dclarke 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 100 0.0 3 0 53 0 sshd/1 533 root 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 100 0.0 32 0 55 0 dtgreet/1 341 root 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 100 0.0 5 0 25 5 xntpd/1 Total: 51 processes, 197 lwps, load averages: 0.41, 0.20, 0.08 PID USERNAME USR SYS TRP TFL DFL LCK SLP LAT VCX ICX SCL SIG PROCESS/NLWP 1097 root 0.1 0.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 100 0.0 7 0 136 0 prstat/1 543 dclarke 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 100 0.0 2 0 45 0 sshd/1 491 root 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 100 0.0 9 0 18 0 Xsun/1 533 root 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 100 0.0 27 0 45 0 dtgreet/1 589 noaccess 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 74 26 0.0 170 0 173 0 java/23 Total: 51 processes, 197 lwps, load averages: 0.38, 0.19, 0.08 Again, the above does not show data with enough granularity to prove your point. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: new to solaris, some differences from linux...
noel wrote: so what should we do to get this cheat sheet goin? What would be the most important commands to put? and which config files are also significant and different for administering the system? all this depends on what you need to find out. Perhaps it would help to start by asking what configuration files and commands are important on linux, and determining what their analogs are in Solaris. Hmm, I was just checking out solaris cuz sun says its the most secure os. Sun does have data (including certifications) to back up that claim. But my real question is why people are leaving linux for a foreign environment like solaris. Foreign ... to you :) People use Solaris for a variety of reasons, including scalability, robustness, adherence to published standards the list goes on. It seems that there is somewhat less software available for solaris. (I don't mind paying for software if it's what I'm looking for, so there might be commercial apps for solaris that I haven't come across). http://partneradvantage.sun.com/catalog/search/ProductTab.jsf shows 25 entries per page, for a total of 7025 entries. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SATA AHCI HBA driver enhancement
Dachuan Fir Qin wrote: *Project Proposal: SATA AHCI HBA driver enhancement* This project is aiming at supporting more ahci-compliant chipsets and adding more features to ahci driver. The webpage of AHCI project for opensolaris is at: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/device_drivers/projects/AHCI/ Hi Fir, this proposal gets a +1 (vote in agreement) from me. best regards, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Apache2 included with Open Solaris
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 1/10/07, Robert Milkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to documentation it should. But I didn't manage to compile it on snv_54. I installed openldap from Blastwave and compiled against it - worked perfectly. I don't have a snv_54 build locally, but if you can provide the compilation errors, I might be able to help. (I'd recommend using httpd 2.2.4 which was just released.) I built apache v2.2.3 on snv_49 with ldap and no problems as far as I can see though admittedly I haven't gotten around to configuring any ldap authentication yet. I used the following settings: CC=/opt/SUNWspro/bin/cc CFLAGS='-xlibmil -xlibmopt -xO5' CXX=/opt/SUNWspro/bin/CC CXXFLAGS='-xlibmil -xlibmopt -xO5' #requires openssl in /opt/local/lib LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/local/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH ./configure --prefix=/scratch/web/apache/2.2.3 \ --enable-modules=all --enable-file-cache --enable-cache --enable-dbd \ --enable-deflate --enable-ldap --enable-mime-magic --enable-expires --enable-headers \ --enable-usertrack --enable-unique-id --enable-version --enable-proxy --enable-proxy-connect \ --enable-proxy-ftp --enable-proxy-http --enable-proxy-ajp --enable-proxy-balancer --enable-ssl \ --enable-http --enable-dav --enable-info --enable-cgi --enable-vhost-alias --enable-imagemap \ --enable-speling --enable-rewrite --enable-so --with-mpm=prefork --with-ssl=/opt/local \ --enable-authnz-ldap --with-ldap --disable-static-support --enable-static-htpasswd=no \ --enable-static-htdigest=no --enable-static-rotatelogs=no --enable-static-logresolve=no \ --enable-static-htdbm=no --enable-static-ab=no --enable-static-checkgid=no which I mentioned on my blog at http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/roller/page/jmcp?entry=more_on_infrastructure_apache_tomcat James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Compiling one 1 core, runnig on multicore
Nauman Rafique wrote: Is it possible that I compile opensolaris on a single core machine, and copy the binaries and run them on a multi-core/multi-processor machine? Yes. Solaris does not have a limitation like that. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] correct way to move home directory to ZFS filesystem?
Patrick P Korsnick wrote: i've done lots of solaris installs in the last year and one thing that i'm still a bit foggy on is moving my user's home directories to a ZFS filesystem. whenever i install a system i use smc to add users and it creates their home directories. i then make ZFS filesystems for each user and move the contents of the home directories to the new ZFS filesystems. sometimes it works fine and sometimes it breaks gnome. i'm sure it has to do with the automounter-- i've turned off the automounter by commenting out my users in /etc/auto_home. one thing that's weird is in smc when you add a user it lists the home directory as /export/home/foo, but in /etc/passwd it adds the user entry with /home/foo. so by disablng the automounter and fixing the /etc/passwd file to reflect /export/home/foo i can get it to work fine. i'm just wondering if there is a better way... maybe using 'useradd' command and telling it to not create home directory? Hi Patrick, I don't think you're using the automounter correctly. SMC, btw, is doing the Solaris-standard thing. The automounter will by default (iirc) assume that the user's physical home directory location is at /export/home/$USER, and try to mount that as /home/$USER. So one possible way forward is to create a zfs which is mounted at /export/home: # zfs create -o mountpoint=/export/home mypool/fsname That would alleviate the need to play around with the /etc/auto_home file, and leave your user homedirs on zfs. Useradd, unless you specify the -m option, will not create a home directory for you. best regards, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: AHCI SATA support
Bob Palowoda wrote: Hi, All Sorry for my late on responding to this topic. I was not aware that AHCI was discussed here in opensolaris forum. This project is almost finished and is under its final test. Hopefully this driver could be putback by the end of this year. In the first phase, AHCI driver will support Intel ICH6 and VIA vt8251 chipsets; hotplug is also supported. ... I don't know if it's me but when you refer to This project can you refer to the opensolaris project name you are talking about? Don't worry Bob, yes, it's just you :) Fir is referring specifically to the AHCI project, and I don't think that there is an OpenSolaris project associated with this PSARC entity 2006/384. cheers, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris x86 I can't find network interface
Jack Woehr wrote: Wow, I've got a 64-bit mp Solaris up on my new core2duo box ... nice work ... But ..How do I figure out which device is my network interface so I can write /etc/hostname.whatever and get my network up and running, please? At least, if that's still the way it works, my Solaris knowledge is a little rusty. Hi Jack, have a look at my blog entries on this subject: http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/roller/page/jmcp?entry=how_to_find_my_nic and http://blogs.sun.com/jmcp/entry/how_do_i_find_out You've probably got a version of the Intel iprb installed so a quick update_drv to add its alias should be sufficient. cheers, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] solaris 10 x86:detect new hard drive
wb wrote: hi. I'm on solaris 10 X86, and I added a hdd today. I can see it int the bios, but nothing appears in my solaris' files: vfstab, mnttab...etc. How could I make solaris detect my new hdd please? If the device shows up in iostat -En or if you see it in the output of prtconf -v then the kernel has detected it. Another good check is to see whether the '/usr/sbin/format' command presents it as a selectable device. You won't see any filesystems mounted from it until you actually create some on that disk, and then mount them. Once you've got to that point, you can edit /etc/vfstab as required. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] snv_51 doesn't offer upgrade from snv_49
Sarah Jelinek wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello opensolaris-discuss, I had to re-install to snv_51 on my x64 workstation. Installer didn't offer upgrade option - :((( System was put on mirrored SVM volume. Zones (zone upgrade not yet supported in Nevada, I think)? No, not yet. Due soon. Did you have local zones configured? Does LiveUpgrade work though? If it doesn't, can I as a workaround for the moment do this: shutdown all zones backup /etc/zones to somewhere safe rm /etc/zones/* reboot with the new dvd choose the upgrade option Thanks in advance, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] snv_51 doesn't offer upgrade from snv_49
Sarah Jelinek wrote: ... One other piece of data.. the zones upgrade project is very close to putback. If you can hang tight until that integrates, another build maybe, then you can do your upgrades. Fortunately for me, the box that I've got zones on can wait until I get back from Beijing in three weeks. cheers, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: ASUS M2N SLI Deluxe
W. Wayne Liauh wrote: Have you tried using the OSS sound drivers for solaris? http://www.4front-tech.com/solaris.html Thanks, but no luck (yet). Probably b/c the sound chipset (MCP55) is too new. Hi Wayne, you might want to have a go at Jürgen Keil's audioi810 driver from http://www.tools.de/solaris/audio. I hacked in the following line to the 1.9beta version in order to get my K8NS-Pro builtin audio to work: $ diff -c drv/i810/audioi810.c drv/i810/audioi810.c.new *** drv/i810/audioi810.cFri Jul 29 00:48:15 2005 --- drv/i810/audioi810.c.newTue Sep 27 17:28:55 2005 *** *** 583,588 --- 583,589 case 0x01b1: revstr = nForce MCP; break; case 0x006a: revstr = nForce MCP2; break; case 0x00da: revstr = nForce MCP3; break; + case 0x00ea: revstr = nForce3 250Gb MCP-T; break; } break; case 0x1039: /* SiS */ === my device's full pci compatible strings are :compatible (1871c0195TBL) | pci10de,ea.1458.a002.a1 | | pci10de,ea.1458.a002 | | pci1458,a002 | | pci10de,ea.a1 | | pci10de,ea | | pciclass,040100 | | pciclass,0401 | cheers, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: ON Tool Hg Conversion
Richard Lowe wrote: Bonnie Corwin wrote: I propose the 'ON Tool Hg Conversion' project to convert the ON tools that currently have knowledge of TeamWare and/or SCCS to work with Mercurial. The list of tools can be found at: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/tools/scm/ontools.html The scope of this project is to lay out a plan and a design for converting these tools to work with Mercurial, do the conversion work, and review the changes against the plan/design. The project is finite. Once the tools have been converted to work with Mercurial, the project is complete and finishes. +1 And +2 from me too. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: [osol-bugs] add_to_install_server appears to be missing from snv_49 and snv_46
Cyril Plisko wrote: On 10/13/06, James C. McPherson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to setup a jumpstart server and integrate it with SUNWjet. One thing that's currently a problem for me is that the documentation refers to a script called add_to_install_server which according to the manpage is installed at media-mnt-pt/Solaris_XX/Tools/add_to_install_server But it's not there. Kinda makes things difficult for me. Any idea where it might have wandered off to? Does anybody have a copy of the script that I could use in the interim? It should be on all the CDROMs, but the 1st. Also DVD may not have this script at all - it kinda not needed there. Indeed you are correct. It seems that what I was really suffering from an old version of SUNWjet - v4.3 doesn't appear to correctly support Solaris Express, whereas v4.3.2 does. cheers, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: lockups with Supermicro H8DAR-8
Bob Palowoda wrote: Maybe this is Bug ID: 6391605 AMD DRAM scrubber should be disabled when errata #99 applies http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bu g_id=6391605 Kind of a funky submit date of Feb 06 when it's reported against S10 update 2. It was reported against a pre-FCS build of S10u2, namely s10u2_09a. cheers, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] add_to_install_server appears to be missing from snv_49 and snv_46
Hi folks, I'm trying to setup a jumpstart server and integrate it with SUNWjet. One thing that's currently a problem for me is that the documentation refers to a script called add_to_install_server which according to the manpage is installed at media-mnt-pt/Solaris_XX/Tools/add_to_install_server But it's not there. Kinda makes things difficult for me. Any idea where it might have wandered off to? Does anybody have a copy of the script that I could use in the interim? thanks and regards, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Performance comparison between Sun cc compiled and Gcc compiled (Nex
Jerry wrote: Do I have to recompile packages for JDS (Gnome) everytime there is (security) updates? Or there is already binary package that I can just install. no you don't. You need to pull down the latest vermillion release from http://dlc.sun.com/osol/jds/downloads In nexenta, it's done using apt-get which is very easy. yes, yes ... it's different. And is there roadmap for JDS, like when it will use Gnome 2.16? Yes there is, you could have found that by looking in the archives. As it happens, the *initial* plan was to integrate 2.16 into nevada build 50, though this seems to have slipped and build 52 is now more likely. cheer,s James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Cross Compile OpenSolaris in Linux?
Jerry wrote: This may sound crazy, building OpenSolaris in Linux host, by bootstrapping the compiler (Sun compiler?) and use the produced compiler and other necessary package to compile the OS. Has anyone done that? or is it possible? I don't think anybody has done that, no. Part of the issue is gmake versus Sun make. Another part is that I don't think anybody has bootstrapped gcc to build on linux and output Solaris executables or object. You're more than welcome to try :) I guess as a pre-requisite, SunStudio must be running in linux first to be able to do this. Nope. Gcc is enabled for shadow compilation. The reason I do this is because I only have left with one machine for experimentation and at this time, the Linux FC5 can't be removed. But I have spare HD for new partition to do the cross compiling and chrooting into that partition. Either save your money and get another hd, or use the Nexenta livecd. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Performance comparison between Sun cc compiled and Gcc compiled (
Jerry wrote: It seems that build 50 is not far away, 10/09/2006 http://opensolaris.org/os/community/on/onnv_schedule.txt How about Solaris Express, which build is it? Jerry, you could start to explorer the opensolaris.org website and find out these things for yourself quite easily. OpenSolaris is build49 at the moment: http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/b49/ and if you look at the urls found here http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads/on/ you'll see that Solaris Express is at build 48. James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: From Linux to OpenSolaris
Darren J Moffat wrote: [snip] No you don't. If you want to upgrade from one Solaris Express release to another you can use live upgrade by just using lofiadm and mount to make the iso install image available. I was under the distinct impression that the discussion was in the context of bfu archives, hence the comment. The update_nonON stuff can't possibly ever work outside of Sun and is really only for people who are using bfu but want to grab updated bits from other consolidations. It has nothing to do with Solaris Express releases. Actually, I did manage to get the update_* scripts to work outside of SWAN. On reviewing the thread I see I was incorrect in my assumptions about the context. The update_* scripts are still very useful though and I don't think it would be difficult to make the public. cheers, James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Forum/Mailing list for Solaris developers?
Raymond wrote: Hi, is there a forum or a mailing list where it is appropriate to ask questions in regard to software development on Solaris, i.e. Solaris systems programming, code optimisations for multithreaded programs and UMA/NUMA hardware architectures, etc. Start with opensolaris-code@opensolaris.org James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog Find me on LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamescmcpherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Oracle on ZFS
Robin McDonald wrote: So basically you raise 3 excellent points ... [snip] 2. ASM is a tool that runs on most OS oracle supports so to get the best performance out of it you must do some tuning which is OS storage dependent. ASM is basically a free (once you've paid for your oracle licence) clusterable extent based filesystem. So while you could say there are other clusterable / extent based filesystems (veritas SAMFS) neither are free. My exposure to ASM was sufficiently traumatising that I decided that if I ever worked for Oracle I would have to re-engineer it so that it worked properly. (imnsho of course). The main problem I encountered with it had to do with scsi 2 / scsi 3 pgr reservations. As I recall it, ASM's method of reserving a lun was to run dd in a loop since dd is a command which does the same thing on all their target architecture. This was the problem for me, is that dd does not actually set a scsi2 pgre / scsi3 pgr key on the lun itself... and ASM basically left itself a window of opportunity to die horribly in the short period of time between one dd finishing and the next one starting. I *hope* that ASM has changed since I had to deal with it. James C. McPherson (daddy make the bad ASM man stop!) ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: AMD buys ATI....
W. Wayne Liauh wrote: This is the first step of a long (upcoming) journey of Dell's AMD-powered PCs: http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/dimen_c521?c=uscs=19l=ens=dhs Perhaps someone at Sun will try to sell Mr. Michael the vision of Solaris-based business desktops? Dell running on AMD is about the only thing that could convince me to buy a Dell laptop or workstation for myself. But Solaris still doesn't work on AM2 type motherboards. (Or does it?) It certainly does, and I've ordered one myself: http://store.sun.com/CMTemplate/CEServlet?process=SunStorecmdViewProduct_CPcatid=131490 James C. McPherson -- Solaris kernel software engineer, system admin and troubleshooter http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Netgear FA311 NIC @ CompUSA
Andrew Pattison wrote: Who should I send my driveralias entries for inclusion in Solaris Nevada to? log an RFE on bugs.opensolaris.org requesting that the driver aliases get added for $driver. James C. McPherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Netgear FA311 NIC @ CompUSA
Hi Wayne, W. Wayne Liauh wrote: For those who have been trying to explore a move from Linux to Solaris, the most frustrating problem (plse note I didn't say one of . . .) is the inability to make NIC work under Solaris. Sun's developers seem determined to exclude ALL of those drivers for NICs that are embedded in AMD-based motherboards. (Strangely enough, most OpenSolaris-derivatives, including NexentaOS and BeleniX, have no problem with those cheap/free but essentially ubiquitous NICs.) That's quite a claim to make. I would dearly love to know on what evidence you base the claim about Sun's engineers. Which devices in particular are you bitter about? This week, CompUSA has Netgear FA311 NIC on sale for $4.99 (after rebate). Listed at the very end of the Solaris HCL, it works flawlessly with Solaris10u2 and SE44. This is good to know. I wonder what the shipping charges outside of the continental USA are, though. BTW, which driver are you using for this card? That's the sort of info which will most definitely help others. James C. McPherson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
