Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] Scheduled Tasks

2010-03-30 Thread James Carlson
This doesn't sound like a governance issue; redirecting to
opensolaris-discuss.

Marco Reyes Rasse wrote:
 Hello, my name is Marco Reyes from Chile, i new in this mailing list, i
 need help with one Scheduled Tasks for OpenSolaris and SunSolaris, and i
 have make one script to check if one folder of server is empty or not,
 this task should be executed at certain times of day.

You can run scheduled tasks using cron.  See the crontab(1M) man page.
For example, this entry will make the /export/myscript program run
once a day at 8AM local time:

0 8 * * * /export/myscript

As for checking whether a directory is empty, it depends on the shell
you're using, but one way to check emptiness is with Perl:

perl -e 'opendir D, $ARGV[0]; $i++ while (readdir D); print $i\n;' \
   directoryname

That'll print 2 or less if the directory is empty.

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Re: [osol-discuss] failure upgrading from snv_131 to snv_134

2010-03-14 Thread James Carlson
On 3/14/2010 3:56 AM, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
 James Carlson wrote:
 How is it that a bug fixed back in build 127 didn't affect me in build
 131 but started affecting me in build 134 ... ?
 
 The great renaming brought it back to life in 133:
 http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=14906

OK; that explains it.  Thanks!

Even with poring over the release announcements, it seems to be hard to
keep up with the bumps.  I hope it gets smoother soon.

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[osol-discuss] failure upgrading from snv_131 to snv_134

2010-03-13 Thread James Carlson
I just attempted to upgrade my OpenSolaris build 131 AMD64 system to
build 134, and failed miserably.  Here's what happened:

First, since this step is normally required, I tried to do pkg install
SUNWipkg.  That didn't work.  It failed (after downloading well over
1GB) telling me that I had to use an alternate boot environment due to
the nature of the update.

I tried doing pkg image-update, and that failed, telling me that I had
to install a new SUNWipkg first.  That was a bit expected, though
obviously not possible.

I next did (as root; I'm still old school in some respects):

beadm create opensolaris-8
beadm mount opensolaris-8 /mnt/tmp
pkg -R /mnt/tmp install SUNWipkg

That more or less worked, with a lot of errors about trouble installing
(clone) drivers -- something that's apparently a known problem and can
be safely ignored.  No other errors were seen.

I next did:

beadm unmount opensolaris-8
beadm activate opensolaris-8
reboot

That was a bad idea.  This is a picture of the screen that greeted me
after a fast reboot:

http://www.workingcode.com/p1030100.jpg

I rebooted a couple more times, hoping that a slow reboot would get it.
 No dice.  It wouldn't boot.  And OpenSolaris has no failsafe option,
so I didn't know what to do.  I ended up going back to the previous
(build 131) BE.  That's where I'm stuck now.

I googled the messages, and come up with a few postings by other folks
who'd seen this problem, but all were old (build 128 or older) and
didn't seem to address this scenario.

Is this a known problem?  Did I do something wrong during the upgrade?
What should I have done to recover?

Should I file a bug?  If so, what sort of information would be helpful
in diagnosing the failure?

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Re: [osol-discuss] failure upgrading from snv_131 to snv_134

2010-03-13 Thread James Carlson
On 03/13/10 18:44, Shawn Walker wrote:
 On 03/13/10 03:10 PM, James Carlson wrote:
 I just attempted to upgrade my OpenSolaris build 131 AMD64 system to
 build 134, and failed miserably.  Here's what happened:

 First, since this step is normally required, I tried to do pkg install
 SUNWipkg.  That didn't work.  It failed (after downloading well over
 1GB) telling me that I had to use an alternate boot environment due to
 the nature of the update.
 
 Do you have packages from /contrib installed?  If so, they have
 incorrect dependencies which caused the solver to incorrectly attempt to
 upgrade you to a new build.  The solver in b134+ doesn't allow that.
 
 The solution is to remove /contrib (or /pending) packages and try again.

Hmm.  I'd removed those once before.  I thought the problem was fixed.

Thanks; I'll have to remember that one for next time.  It's a bit of a
hurdle.

 I tried doing pkg image-update, and that failed, telling me that I had
 to install a new SUNWipkg first.  That was a bit expected, though
 obviously not possible.
 
 Use the -f option to ignore the SUNWipkg version check (which is
 probably wrong anyway due to the packages above).

OK.

 I next did (as root; I'm still old school in some respects):

 beadm create opensolaris-8
 beadm mount opensolaris-8 /mnt/tmp
 pkg -R /mnt/tmp install SUNWipkg
 
 Err...not quite right.  See FAQ B1:
 
 http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Project+pkg/FAQ

That link just hangs.  I guess I'll read it another day.

I was able to get to 134 by using bootadm update-archive but it looks
like I'm going back to 131, because there's a lot that just plain
doesn't work right in 134.  In particular, less and telnet seem to
be terribly broken -- both just appear to hang unless I press ^J.  I
expect it's some sort of problem in the GNOME terminal emulator.

Too bad.  I liked the new log-in screen, and GNOME itself seemed
*much* snappier once I was logged in.  But I can't stand having the
system be unusable for long periods of time or having basic things not
work at all.

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Re: [osol-discuss] failure upgrading from snv_131 to snv_134

2010-03-13 Thread James Carlson
On 03/13/10 22:44, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
 James Carlson wrote:
 I was able to get to 134 by using bootadm update-archive but it looks
 like I'm going back to 131, because there's a lot that just plain
 doesn't work right in 134.  In particular, less and telnet seem to
 be terribly broken -- both just appear to hang unless I press ^J.  I
 expect it's some sort of problem in the GNOME terminal emulator.
 
 Sounds a lot like the ptmx permissions bug in the release notes actually,
 which is fixable with a simple chmod.
 

Really?

The comments in that bug (particularly #26) seem to state that this was
fixed in build 127.  That was long ago.  I was running build 131 and I
tried to upgrade to build 134.

How is it that a bug fixed back in build 127 didn't affect me in build
131 but started affecting me in build 134 ... ?

I'll give it another try, but I'm skeptical, to say the least.  Is it
really fixed as the many comments in that bug seem to say?

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Re: [osol-discuss] [networking-discuss] link aggregating

2009-10-12 Thread James Carlson
Arun Tomar wrote:
 I've a zfs box for storage and gigabit network. the max data transfer
 speed that i could get is may be between 100-125 mbps need to check
 that. 

Is that MBps (megabytes per second) or Mbps (megabits per second)?  The
former sounds about right.

 I wanted to achieve close to 300mbps of data transfer speed. 
 
 I remembered that if i could use link aggregation, it improves
 reliability and performance. 

In general, true.

 so my question is if supposed with 1 lan card if my transfer speed is
 100 mbps, then if i aggregate the links (2 gigabit lan cards aggregated)
 then would it double to 200 mbps? 

Not necessarily.

If you don't have a bottleneck elsewhere (meaning that your CPU, disks,
and other parts of your system can deliver that kind of performance),
and if you have enough distinct flows to hash out over the available
interfaces, then, yes, it'll scale in that way.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Permission/Misc Questions

2009-06-15 Thread James Carlson
The Big T writes:
 1) I installed the latest build off the site, yet did not notice a x64 
 build...  Was just curiouse if there is a 64bit build available.

It's all the same.  If you have 64-bit system, then it runs 64-bit by
default.  If you don't, then it runs 32-bit.  There's no separate
build necessary.

 Now the biggest question that I have is about the permissions on the CIFS 
 share I dont have much experiance with the Solaris/Unix permission types and 
 havent been able to get the information that i need from google or the 
 zfs/acl docs on the site over the past two days. SO hopefully someone here 
 can help me out.

You might get help here, but zfs-disc...@opensolaris.org or
cifs-disc...@opensolaris.org might be better paths to the experts.

 3) My last question is whats the best way to remote (i'm looking for 
 something like Remote Desktop) into my OpenSolaris box from a windows/linux 
 machine?  Right now im using VPN through the gnome daemon though I would like 
 something that does not require the user to be logged in locally on the 
 server.

I'd use ssh with the automatic X11 redirection, but there's also VNC
for those who like such things.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Have read-only mount option for /usr

2009-06-15 Thread James Carlson
Ian Collins writes:
  Should work fine. Actually you can even do it via jumpstart profile 
  (no finish script required):
 
pool rpool auto 8192 8192 mirror c0t0d0s0 c0t1d0s0
bootenv installbe bename sol10_u7 dataset /var
 
 There has always been an option to split /var.  /usr is a different story.

lucreate(1M) includes this example:

 The following command, like the  preceding,  creates  a  new
 boot  environment  on a machine on which a BE has never been
 created. However,  the  following  command  differs  in  two
 respects:  the -c option is omitted and the /usr file system
 is mounted on its own disk slice, separate from /.


   # lucreate -m /:/dev/dsk/c0t4d0s0:ufs -m /usr:/dev/dsk/c0t4d0s1:ufs \
   -n second_disk
   lucreate: Please wait while your system configuration is determined.
   many lines of output
   lucreate: Creation of Boot Environment c0t4d0s0 successful.

And filesystem(5) says this:

 /usr

 Mount point for the /usr file system. See description of
 /usr file system, below.

And the jumpstart guide has this:

  http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/820-0179/6nbugkoo4?a=view#frcfq

I'm pretty sure that (at least apart from OpenSolaris IPS), using a
split root/usr layout has been supported.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Have read-only mount option for /usr

2009-06-15 Thread James Carlson
Ian Collins writes:
  # lucreate -m /:/dev/dsk/c0t4d0s0:ufs -m /usr:/dev/dsk/c0t4d0s1:ufs \
  -n second_disk
 
 That's with UFS root (I've used this a few times), how about ZFS root?

Ah; I knew I had to be missing something there, because the answer was
too easy.

No, not with ZFS root.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Huawei E220 hot plugging and USB serial freesing problem drivers for snv111

2009-06-12 Thread James Carlson
Lei Chen writes:
 Yes, I have some discussion with Chototsu. And I will contact submitter 
 of CR6840063 for further help. This CR is the first one with a coredump. 
 And thank you for the hint of STREAM analysis. Once the root cause is 
 known, I will putback my fix.

OK; not trying to rush it.  I'm just making sure all of you folks are
talking.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Possible ZFS corruption?

2009-06-12 Thread James Carlson
Joel Robison writes:
  ::stack
 mutex_enter+0xb()
 metaslab_free+0x68()
 zio_dva_free+0x1f()
 zio_execute+0x60()
 zio_nowait+9()

Looks a lot like CR 6794136, which was fixed in build 115.

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[osol-discuss] random OpenSolaris complaints [was Re: StudioExpress-sol-x86-2009-03-pkg.sh installer woes]

2009-06-12 Thread James Carlson
Anon Y Mous writes:
 When are we going to get an OpenSolaris server core that is command line 
 and text only with no X-windows dependencies?

The answer depends on when people decide to stop complaining about
missing features in the work-in-progress that is the OpenSolaris
distribution, and instead start working on providing those features.

Seriously: I'm not on the Indiana team, but, as someone who has talked
with those folks, I know that they're keenly aware of these
shortcomings.  The work is not done.  It's not finished yet.  You're
looking at a work in progress.  There are known feature gaps -- among
them are many enterprise-class features.  They're not being
forgotten.  The issues won't be ignored.  The people doing this work
just aren't that foolish.

It takes time to do work.  It takes more time if you have to run
through a gauntlet of people throwing stones.

I'm almost hoping we can get back to arguing about GPLv3 or Sun's
buy-out.

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Re: [osol-discuss] SUNWglrt prerequisite

2009-06-12 Thread James Carlson
John DeHart writes:
 forgive my ignorance but, what does 'encumbered' mean relative to the OpenGL 
 package?

Nobody who knows can give you the specifics, but encumbered
generally means that there are legal restrictions on how the code must
be handled.  Some aspect of it (or of the documentation used to
produce it) are controlled by an entity outside of Sun.

There are a few things we have that are encumbered in one way or
another.  In some cases, we can freely share the binaries, but not the
source.  In others, the binaries must be individually licensed.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Huawei E220 hot plugging and USB serial freesing problem drivers for snv111

2009-06-11 Thread James Carlson
Georg-W. Koltermann writes:
 From Kazuhiko Kobayashi chototsu_moush...@yahoo.co.jp:
  USB serial freesing problem(Bug ID 6719062) patch and
  binary for snv111
  http://chototsumoushinp.dip.jp/solaris/usbser.snv111.t
  ar.bz2
[...]
 chototsu you rock!!
 
 I'm online from OpenSolaris 2009.6 (snv111b) with your binary patch, using a 
 Nokia N95 mobile
 phone!
 
 How long have I waited for this day!
 
 Hello Sun, if you are listening, could you _please_ consider this patch? It 
 makes it possible for me to
 use OpenSolaris at home, without it I'm stuck with Linux :-(((  Can you 
 really be answerable to that ;-) ?

It's wonderful to see this ... folks have been mis-attributing the
problem to PPP for a while now, and it's good news that the root cause
in USB has been found.

The RE on that bug is Raymond Chen.  I've copied him on this reply,
and I'd hope that he'd follow up with the original poster.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Few questions w.r.t. OS 2009.06 ZFS mirroring and installation.

2009-06-04 Thread James Carlson
Karel Gardas writes:
 Hello,
 I do have few questions w.r.t. OS 2009.06 ZFS mirroring and installation:
 
 1) if I install OS2009.06 on one drive and then just attach another drive to 
 the installation to form the mirror, will it also mirror all needed 
 information from the boot block and partition table? i.e. will second drive 
 be bootable (if I for example need to change the first one)?

You'll need to run installgrub.  The zpool attach command will
remind you to do that when you create the mirror.

 2) what's the recommended practice? Partition the drive or let OS install to 
 whole drive? How it'll affect (1)? (I'm talking here about options provided 
 by the livecd installer)

If you don't have anything special on the drive and don't plan to have
GRUB entries for different OSes, it's simpler to say whole drive.

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Re: [osol-discuss] open solaris on lenovo

2009-06-04 Thread James Carlson
khaldoun writes:
 hello alfred,
 thank you very much for your kind support.
 i had realized that to work on open office installed on regular laptop, is 
 not the same as working on a macintosh apple laptop.
 i am very beginner in that, for example, you've told me 
 3. Install with pkg Command line:% pfexec pkg install openoffice
 but i don't know where i can write this command to execute it.
 i tried to do it from the terminal but it is saying bad command.

What exactly did you type into that terminal window?  Did you type the
% at the beginning?  If so, don't.  That's just a prompt.  The
command you enter should begin with pfexec.

 i am sorry that i am giving you a lot of pressure, but i need your help 
 badly, since i have notice that even i don't have the concept how to deal 
 with the opensolaris OS

It might be worthwhile to look for a book or two about OpenSolaris
and/or Solaris and/or UNIX in general.  There happens to be a pretty
good book specifically about OpenSolaris available now.

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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris 2009.06 missing SXCE b114 desktop applications

2009-06-02 Thread James Carlson
Andrew Watkins writes:
 With that in mind how would a user find out which package has the given 
 program in it.
 
 So, I want gimp how do I know which package it is in??

This will work:

  % pkg search -r /usr/bin/gimp

... but, yeah, it'd be nice if the package names reflected the actual
contents.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Live Upgrade question

2009-05-29 Thread James Carlson
Ivan Ordonez writes:
 I want to know if there is a good howto on Live Upgrade for opensolaris, or 
 is it possible to do live upgrade on opensolaris? .

Assuming you mean the OpenSolaris distribution (as opposed to the
Solaris Express bits), Live Upgrade isn't possible on OpenSolaris,
because Live Upgrade depends on System V packaging, which isn't used
there for the base system itself.

Instead, OpenSolaris uses the pkg and beadm commands.  They have
the same basic feature set, but work differently.

 There is no manual entry for lustatus, luugrade, etc... on my machine.  Can 
 someone please give me a hint?
 
 SunOS hostname 5.11 snv_110 i86pc i386 i86pc Solaris

That could be either Solaris Express or OpenSolaris.  What does pkg
say?

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Re: [osol-discuss] Live Upgrade question

2009-05-29 Thread James Carlson
Ivan Ordonez writes:
 I did get the manual entry for pkg and beadm command.  I will look into 
 it and see if these packages can help me.  I have 3 harddrive on the machine 
 and I want to make a clone of my boot environment, put it on the second disk. 
  Sort of like making an image of one drive to another.

It's not quite the same.

The old (and encumbered) LU code was built around disk slices, so the
underlying implementation just did a mkfs followed by a massive
find|cpio to copy bits around.  The new beadm is built around ZFS, so
it's *MUCH* faster (it just snapshots the file system), but it doesn't
work the way you're expecting.

Your best bet is probably to do what most of the rest of us do: set up
a ZFS mirror for the bootable dataset (usually named rpool), and
then use 'installgrub' to make sure you've got both disks made
bootable.

(Incidentally, the newest LU on SXCE and S10 also supports ZFS, and
also does the snapshot trick.  So it's much faster and more usable
there, but doesn't quite have the same conceptual simplicity as you're
describing.)

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Re: [osol-discuss] Live Upgrade question

2009-05-29 Thread James Carlson
Ivan Ordonez writes:
 uname -v shows snv_110.  Is that Nevada?  Sorry I'm a total noob.

The 110 part is the build number (one new build every two weeks),
and snv means Solaris Nevada, which is the code name for that
thing after Solaris 10 that marketing isn't allowing us to call 11.

None of it tells you whether you have the OpenSolaris distribution or
you have SX:CE.  (Other distributions may also have indistiguishable
uname output.)

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Re: [osol-discuss] NEW desktop

2009-05-28 Thread James Carlson
Shamun Mahmud writes:
 i am building a new desktop.  been using the hcl as guidance.  have a tyan 
 m/b and two amd opterons, along with 2 gbs of ram.  which dvd+-rw drive would 
 the folks on this distribution recommend?  what about hard drives and 
 controllers?

I haven't been able to locate ones that _don't_ work.

As for brands, I like the Lite-On and Plextor DVD drives, Seagate and
WD for hard disk drives, and Adaptec for controllers ... but I doubt
this is significant.  SCSI and SAS seem to be faster than ATA and
SATA.  As I said, though, I haven't been able to find ones that don't
work.

(Things that may or may not to work, and might require more caution,
are exotics like hardware RAID.  There are supported hardware RAID
devices from Areca, DPT, and LSI.  Others may need to be put in a
compatibility mode to work.  I prefer software RAID anyway for
flexibility reasons.)

It shouldn't be this hard ...

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Re: [osol-discuss] packet forwarding, one port in, another port out

2009-05-28 Thread James Carlson
Tom Chen writes:
 There are two network ports on the tested network adapter also and they are 
 connected to the two ports on the equipment. Testing packets sent from the 
 external equipment come to one port of our card, qlge0,  but the packets must 
 be forwarded to another port, qlge1, then forwarded again back to the second 
 port of the external equipment. So, the equipment can know when the packets 
 it sends and when packets come back. Thus, it can calculate the performance.
 
 I am wondering how do I set up the test client machine so that the packets 
 received by one port can exit from another port? I know in Linux, I can use 
 iptables, but iptables isn't available in OpenSolaris. So, how do I set up?

Why not just configure the two ports on separate subnets and enable IP
forwarding?

# routeadm -e ipv4-forwarding -u

That seems like the simplest possible answer.  If you really want
iptables-like difficulty in this test, you could use the equivalent
functionality in IP Filter -- the to keyword should do what you're
asking.

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Re: [osol-discuss] NAT router.

2009-05-28 Thread James Carlson
Gary Gendel writes:
 My hardware ethernet router is showing some signs of age and it occurred to 
 me that this is a great opportunity to chuck it and use my SOHO OpenSolaris 
 (SXCE) server to perform this function along with all the other services 
 (mail-server, file-server, etc.).
 
 Internet [nic 1] - OpenSolaris (router services) - Intranet [nic 2]
   |
   v
   network services (web, mail, etc.)

Yep; that's what I do.

 However, this encompasses a number of areas that are unfamiliar to me.  
 Specifically:
 * dhcp server - How do I properly set this up and automatically add dhcp 
 clients to the hosts and/or DNS tables for intranet lookup? How do I pass the 
 appropriate gateway/dns server information to the clients?

Run /usr/sadm/admin/bin/dhcpmgr and follow the instructions.  It's not
too hard to puzzle through (and it's been many years since I set it
up), but if you need help, there's always docs.sun.com.

 * crossbow - Is it better to set up this router in a zone or not? 

It's probably simpler to get things working first, and then figure out
how to move it to a zone if that's what you want.

 * port forwarding/NAT - General how to (ipf, etc.)

On my system, I have this in my /etc/ipf/ipf.conf:

  pass in quick proto tcp from any to thishost port 3  31000 flags S 
keep state

and this in /etc/ipf/ipnat.conf:

  map e1000g1 192.168.254.0/24 - myhostname/32 portmap tcp/udp 1:3
  map e1000g1 192.168.254.0/24 - myhostname/32

... but configuring packet filters is a much deeper topic.  You'll
probably want to spend some time working on that, and using 'xnmap'
(or similar) to check your work.

 Has anyone actually done this?  I've found snippets of information on the 
 internet that is useful, but I don't want to put my server out of commission 
 for too long.  I really need to put all my ducks in a row before I attempt 
 it.  I would use another machine, but none of the ones with multiple nics are 
 available.

I suggest doing one thing at a time.  Set up DHCP and get that
working.  Retire your old DHCP server and make sure you can serve all
the clients properly.  Then figure out how to filter away the packets
you don't want.  Spend some time testing that and making sure that
you're not accidentally dropping necessary traffic.  Then, finally,
enable NAT and switch the link over.

 Barring that, would someone act as mentor?  I could keep notes and put 
 together a document for anyone wanting to do something similar in the future. 
  I'm probably making too much out of this and it's probably much easier than 
 I imagined, but there are a lot of places for silly mistakes.

Based on my experience, the part that's easiest to get wrong is the
packet filtering.  Once you cross that hurdle, all else is easy.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Q: possible to turn OpenSolaris into a Wifi access point?

2009-05-27 Thread James Carlson
Martin Bochnig writes:
 For normal chipsets found in PCI 2.2 based cards (Desktop systems)
 there isn't much WLAN driver support yet. For Laptops it looks better.

The big missing piece, though, is the lack of AP functionality.  I
don't think there's even an RFE filed for it yet.

(And many of the interfaces I've used don't seem to support ad-hoc
mode, either.)

laptop-discuss would be the right place to ask about AP functionality.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Some trouble with Samba Snapshots

2009-05-19 Thread James Carlson
Edward Ned Harvey writes:
 The solution was pretty easy.
 
 Autosnapshot is just a bunch of cron jobs, /lib/svc/method/zfs-auto-snapshot
 
 When I edit that file, there’s a variable, SEP=: and the comment says
 it’s explicitly editable due to “:” being invalid CIFS character.

YUCK!

Please file a bug.  The scripts under /lib/svc/method/* aren't
intended to be configuration interfaces (so changing this is _not_
supported and _will_ fail on upgrade), and, at least in my opinion,
there's no good reason at all to have two features that are so
obviously in conflict by default.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Question about ZFS Send

2009-05-15 Thread James Carlson
Edward Ned Harvey writes:
  Note also that the data format for the ZFS send/receive mechanism
  isn't stable.  Unless these two systems are running exactly the same
  OS build and are upgraded in lock-step fashion, you may run into
  problems.
 
 Understood.  I've always been paranoid and obsessive about even dump and
 restore for ext3 etc.  Always the same precise exact version.  So I
 appreciate that caution. 

No idea about ext3, but for UFS, dump and restore are safer, because
the UFS on-disk format is a Committed Private interface, and the
utilities generate streamed versions of that same interface.  The same
sort of locking-down just hasn't been done with ZFS yet.

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Re: [osol-discuss] How do I set up a DSL or (TCP / I.Pv4) connection for OpenSolaris 2008.11?

2009-05-14 Thread James Carlson
Dora Henaire writes:
 Can anyone tell me how to set up a DSL connection or better known as (TCP / 
 I.Pv4)? I have tried everything and nothing has worked!

In general, you shouldn't have to do anything special.  It should
just work.

Since it doesn't, you'll need to provide some details:

  - Do you have an external router / NAT device?  If so, is it
configured to supply addresses by way of DHCP?

  - When you run Windows, do you need to configure PPPoE?

  - When you installed OpenSolaris, did you run the device driver
detection tool available in the live CD?  What did it report?

  - Bring up a terminal window, try running these commands, and report
the results:

pfexec dladm show-link
pfexec ifconfig -a

Some other pointers:

  - Try visiting this site for troubleshooting ideas:

http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/nwam/picea/troubleshooting/

  - If you're having networking problems, I recommend posting to
networking-disc...@opensolaris.org, rather than to this list.  The
opensolaris-discuss list is a rather noisy one, and not everyone
involved with networking is on it.

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Re: [osol-discuss] files stored

2009-05-14 Thread James Carlson
vattini giacomo writes:
 Hi there how can i know where are stored some files broadcasting in streaming?
 in which temporary directory?

There's no clear answer for that question.

You'll need to figure out first what application you're using for
streaming.  Then consult the documentation for that application or
perhaps use a debugger or tracing tool (such as mdb, dtrace, or truss)
to find out what the application is doing.

It's possible that the file in question is kept only in memory, and
never stored on disk anywhere.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Question about ZFS Send

2009-05-14 Thread James Carlson
Edward Ned Harvey writes:
 . Will my data stream going across the network require 1Tb every
 night?  Or will the system somehow generate a delta from the last zfs send
 until the present time?

You have to set it up to do what you want.  If you take a snapshot,
and then send deltas with the zfs send -i option, then you'll just
send the deltas over.  If you don't, then you'll end up sending
everything.

It's not automatic; you have to choose what you want to send.  See the
zfs(1M) man page for details.

Note also that the data format for the ZFS send/receive mechanism
isn't stable.  Unless these two systems are running exactly the same
OS build and are upgraded in lock-step fashion, you may run into
problems.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Regular panics: BAD TRAP: type=e

2009-05-12 Thread James Carlson
Marco Stadler writes:
 I did some days ago, but nobody seems to care about. What can I do now?

File a bug.

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Re: [osol-discuss] root changes to xorg.conf?

2009-05-11 Thread James Carlson
Cooky Hex writes:
 On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 12:16 AM, Calum Benson calum.ben...@sun.com wrote:
  You might find this useful:
 
  http://developers.sun.com/jsp_utils/PrintPage.jsp?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdevelopers.sun.com%2Fdeveloper%2FtechnicalArticles%2Fopensolaris%2Fpfexec.html
 
 That's very very helpful for newbie like me :)
 Lots of thanks to you for your time of providing the materials!

You can also do this:

pfexec pkg install SUNWsudo

... then you'll have sudo on OpenSolaris, just like on other systems.

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Re: [osol-discuss] process state varies from linux to solaris

2009-05-11 Thread James Carlson
barun parichha writes:
 I don't know, why both of them deviate from the basic open source
 format, which creates extra confusion.

If you're reporting a problem, I suggest filing a bug instead.

As for the variations on process state in 'ps' between OSes, I don't
see a problem.  There's a lot of alignment between them (in
particular, at least [STZ] are identical, and [R] is quite similar),
and in the places where they're not exactly the same, they're
reflecting differences in the underlying system implementation.

Solaris isn't Linux, so process status on Solaris shouldn't
necessarily be the same as on Linux, should it?

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Re: [osol-discuss] Dual Boot issue.

2009-05-08 Thread James Carlson
Kamin Horvath writes:
 All the Grubs are the same. It's simply a matter of transferring the  
 contents of the osol menu.lst to the Ubuntu one (or vice versa)
 
 If you can access the osol partition (such as via livecd), just copy  
 the boot entries from your osol menu.lst and paste them into the new  
 Ubuntu one.

I don't believe that's true.  The OpenSolaris GRUB can read and boot
from ZFS, but I don't think the Ubuntu one can do that.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Regular panics: BAD TRAP: type=e

2009-05-07 Thread James Carlson
Marco Stadler writes:
 May  6 09:30:38 tank genunix: [ID 655072 kern.notice] ff00043c1b30
 zfs:dbuf_
 write_ready+1e7 ()
 May  6 09:30:38 tank genunix: [ID 655072 kern.notice] ff00043c1b60
 zfs:arc_w
 rite_ready+2c ()

There seem to be several bugs filed with somewhat similar symptoms.
Have you tried contacting zfs-disc...@opensolaris.org?

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Re: [osol-discuss] How to track SSH bad log in attempts / brute force attacks in Solaris?

2009-05-06 Thread James Carlson
Anon Y Mous writes:
 May  6 01:41:43 zone1 sshd[8833]: Failed keyboard-interactive for root from 
 64.27.1.36 port 37553 ssh2
 
 But what log file are these console messages written to in OpenSolaris 
 2008.11? Does anybody know?

They're logged via the auth_log() function in sshd, which, unless
you've specified the -e or -d (debugging) options when invoking,
calls syslog().

You should see the messages showing up as auth.notice in the default
case, which you can redirect to any file you want via /etc/syslog.conf.

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Re: [osol-discuss] opensolaris boot process

2009-05-06 Thread James Carlson
Nischal writes:
 can anyone please explain me the boot process in opensolaris? I would like 
 somebody to explain the boot process at the process level like what forks and 
 what execs and so on ( our textbooks say that init forks and execs getty, 
 login blah blah... which is so outdated :) .  )

The svc.startd(1M) and smf(5) man pages are probably a good
introduction to the way services are started on OpenSolaris.

Like traditional UNIX, OpenSolaris does start 'initd' at boot time,
but if you look at /etc/inittab, you'll see very few things actually
started by init -- only autopush, soconfig, and svc.startd.  It's that
last one that effectively behaves as the global 'initd' process on
OpenSolaris, and forks/execs all the processes you see.

(And, since this is System V, there's no getty, but instead ttymon.
It'd be nice, though, if someone put ttymon out of our misery and
installed mgetty instead ...)

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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 10/08 install Crossbow

2009-05-05 Thread James Carlson
Gian Paolo Buono writes:
 Thanks for your reply,
 Now I have installed  Solaris Express Community Edition and Crossbow work
 fine ...
 
 Can I create a zone with solaris10 on nevada ?

I don't believe that's supported yet, but you'd need to contact the
Zones community (zones-disc...@opensolaris.org) to get more accurate
information.

 For Solaris 8 i have read that there is Solaris 8 Migration Assistant work
 on nevada ?

Yes, I think that does exist.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 10/08 install Crossbow

2009-05-04 Thread James Carlson
Gian Paolo writes:
 is possible to install Crossbow on Solaris 10 10/08 sparc ?

No.

You could reinstall your system with OpenSolaris, and thus get
Crossbow (plus a lot of other new features), but there's no way to
install Crossbow on Solaris 10.

If you have a support contract, then I would recommend contacting your
Sun support representative and asking about CR 6790102.

If you don't have a support contract, then I'd recommend sticking with
OpenSolaris instead.  You could upgrade your system to SX:CE in a
relatively simple manner.

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Re: [osol-discuss] b111a: Power Management and nwam-issue ?

2009-04-30 Thread James Carlson
Paul Griffith writes:
 I am still seeing issues with VirtualBox 2.2.2 and nwam.

If you're seeing the 'dhcpagent' process spinning and consuming CPU
time, then it's very likely to be the same CR that I cited.  The fix
for that problem was just integrated yesterday.

 Running OS 2008.11, waiting for 2009.06 to hit release!

2008.11 is now ancient.  Unless you really have a need to stick with
that (a paid support contract would be a good reason), I'd suggest
moving over to the 'http://pkg.opensolaris.org/dev' package authority.

It won't help right away with this problem -- unless you're willing to
build your own binaries, you'll need to wait for the fix to percolate
through the system; probably around 4 weeks -- but it'll certainly
allow you to pick up the fix as soon as it's available rather than
waiting many months between the 'stable' releases.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 Startup

2009-04-29 Thread James Carlson
Mike Magie writes:
 What replaced the /etc/rc2.d/s89 startup scripts in Solaris 10? 

There's no simple answer to that, because the numbers on the scripts
reflected only relative ordering, not any sort of identity.  (In other
words, administrators and third party vendors were free to use S89 as
a prefix for their own scripts.)

Are you referring to S89PRESERVE or maybe the obscure S89bdconfig?

If it's S89PRESERVE, then that's still present, and it still runs at
boot time.  If it's S89bdconfig, then that's also still there in S10,
but it's gone from OpenSolaris.  Everything relating to buttons and
dials is long since obsolete.

If it's something else, then please specify.  (And you may want to use
smf-inter...@opensolaris.org instead of this list; your question seems
to be about SMF in particular, not about OpenSolaris in general.)

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Re: [osol-discuss] b111a: Power Management and nwam-issue ?

2009-04-28 Thread James Carlson
Detlef drew...@sun.com writes:
 3. Also: After the boot I see dhcpagent/1 consuming 50 % CPU (looks like 
 1 core) and the nwam applet will not show up in the gnome panel. I first 
 have to kill -9 the dhcpagent, then the nwam applet comes up and the 
 cpu consuming goes away.

This part sounds like CR 6743929.  A fix for it has been code reviewed
and should be integrated some time soon now.

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Re: [osol-discuss] uname -a ... 32bit vs 64bit

2009-04-27 Thread James Carlson
Octave Orgeron writes:
 Now putting all that info into uname would just complicate life for everyone 
 and break all sorts of stuff. As such, uname is for very high-level info and 
 isainfo is for detailed.

Exactly.  Putting detailed processor information into uname is not
only unnecessary, but it breaks backward compatibility by forcing
people who are depending on uname output (often inside of 'configure'
scripts) to deal with new and unexpected responses from the system.

When we've done this in the past, it's been to add support for a new
processor or system family, and not when we've just added support for
yet another variant of an existing processor.

Breaking existing code can sometimes be the only answer, but it'd
better be for a really good reason.  I'm not sure that merely
disliking i386 as shorthand for all Intel and AMD x86 compatible
CPUs is enough of a reason to make ./configure fall over and die.

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Re: [osol-discuss] how to check the time stamp on Solaris?

2009-04-14 Thread James Carlson
Amy writes:
 To change the date on my Solaris computer, I log in as superuser, and I use 
 the date command to change the date.  But how do I know if the date was 
 later changed by someone else, and then, changed back again?

The simplest answer is to make sure you have good control over who has
privileged access to your system: use good passwords and hand them
out.

A more complicated answer is to set up the auditing subsystem.  Start
by reading bsmconv(1M) and audit(1M), and look into the documentation
on docs.sun.com.

Perhaps a more useful answer is that you likely shouldn't have to set
the date by using the date command at all.  If you're connected to
any half-way reasonable network, you should have access to an NTP
server somewhere.  Set up /etc/inet/ntp.conf (see /etc/inet/ntp.client
for an example), and then svcadm enable ntp.

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Re: [osol-discuss] how to check the time stamp on Solaris?

2009-04-14 Thread James Carlson
James Carlson writes:
 Amy writes:
  To change the date on my Solaris computer, I log in as superuser, and I use 
  the date command to change the date.  But how do I know if the date was 
  later changed by someone else, and then, changed back again?
 
 The simplest answer is to make sure you have good control over who has
 privileged access to your system: use good passwords and hand them
 out.

... and don't hand them out.

What a difference a word can make.  ;-}

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Re: [osol-discuss] gettext

2009-04-13 Thread James Carlson
Hanma writes:
 checking for library containing acl_trivial... -lsec

That part looks right.

 /bin/sh ../libtool --tag=CC--mode=link gcc -std=gnu99  -g -O2-o 
 msgcmp msgcmp-msgcmp.o libgettextsrc.la   
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Re: [osol-discuss] gettext

2009-04-13 Thread James Carlson
Hanma writes:
 Carlsonj, can you tell me, how can I install Epiphany browser? Many .tar.gz 
 open source packages don't installes. So how can I install packages?

If it's .tar.gz, then you need to do this to unpack it first:

gunzip -c filename.tar.gz | tar xf -

where filename is the name of the file on your system.  That will
extract (decompress and unarchive) the contents of the file.  What you
do next depends on what was _inside_ that .tar.gz file.

Some software is shipped as source, in which case you'll need to
configure and compile it.  Other software is shipped as binaries with
an installer script, and you'll need to run that.  Still other
software is shipped as System V packages, and you'll need to run
pkgadd with -d to pick up that directory.

Most .tar.gz files have a README or INSTALL file with detailed
instructions located somewhere in the archive.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Can mysql be slower in a zone?

2009-04-10 Thread James Carlson
Mike Gerdts writes:
 On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Mike DeMarco mikej...@yahoo.com wrote:
  You should only see a very little performace hit when using zones. Maybe 1 
  or 2 %.
  Are you using exclusive NIC to move the TCP stack down into the zone?
 
 What evidence do you have for that?  There should be no overhead for a
 zone.  If you have workloads that show a performance hit in zones,
 please bring it up at zones-discuss.

Indeed.  It's not as though they go through any sort of layer.  The
zone ID in the kernel is just a number and it's used in much the same
way that a UID or GID is used.  We're always comparing based on it,
and the default (when there are no zones present) is just zero (also
known as the global zone).

If you see a performance difference, then I'd class that as a defect.
It shouldn't be a measurable change, just as running with either UID 0
or UID 302 shouldn't be noticably different in performance.

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Re: [osol-discuss] network autocomfiguration daemon question

2009-04-09 Thread James Carlson
Alex writes:
 I have an acer aspire one laptop running OpenSolaris 111 that I connect to 
 the internet via ethernet at work.  Is there anyway to re-request a DHCP 
 lease via the network autoconf daemon?

The system does that all on its own.  The DHCP client will attempt to
get a lease continuously.  There's no failed state where we just
give up.

 For example, i have an ip of 0.0.0.0 without a cable plugged in, I plug an 
 Ethernet cable and it remains at 0.0.0.0.  I've tried switching between auto 
 and wired networks without success.
 
 I know how to configure things manually, but I would prefer to do it 
 automatically.

It sounds like the interface itself isn't working.  Some of the
troubleshooting techniques on the NWAM web page might be helpful, but
I'd say that the first things to check are the output of ifconfig
(does it say DHCP is running?) and either snoop or wireshark.

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Re: [osol-discuss] disconnecting hdd from zfs mirror hangs whole

2009-04-07 Thread James Carlson
UNIX admin writes:
 Or volume management, which to this day doesn't work correctly (one can't 
 create a zpool on a removable device, then eject (zpool export) and plug that 
 device somewhere else and have it instantly imported by vold(1M).
 
 And if you're interested, the RFE for this was closed as will not fix.

When saying something like that, it helps quite a lot of you can cite
the actual CR number so that others can help either rescue the CR (if
it's in need of rescue) or provide a more comprehensive explanation.

In this case, though, I'll hazard a guess: everything related to the
old 'vold' is gone.  Just plain gone.  Removed by PSARC/2005/672.  It
is no more.  It is an ex-daemon.  ;-}

RFEs to it are moot.  The Tamarack project is the replacement for it.

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Re: [osol-discuss] disconnecting hdd from zfs mirror hangs whole

2009-04-07 Thread James Carlson
a b writes:
 
  When saying something like that, it helps quite a lot of you can cite
  the actual CR number so that others can help either rescue the CR (if
  it's in need of rescue) or provide a more comprehensive explanation.
 
 The CR is 681661
 
 http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6811661

That's all you needed to supply.

The CR was closed by renaud.ma...@sun.com, who noted in the evaluation
that vold is gone, Tamarack replaced it, and that Tamarack *does*
handle ZFS storage pools.

The CR was then updated by artem.kachitch...@sun.com, who noted that
Tamarack did do this, but that the methods it added are not invoked by
USB hot plug, so that's still a problem.

I'll leave it up to Artem (whom I've copied) to explain why he just
updated the Evaluation field and didn't either reopen it or change the
status, but my guess would have to be that this CR (given as a see
also to the CR you cite) is the reason:

  6786446 hald doesn't handle zfs formatted hotplug media and raises
  an error dialog.

Fixing that problem would fix the problem you later reported in
6811661, making your CR effectively a duplicate.

 Is my time completely worthless? Should I have to worry about such details, or
 should I be able to use Solaris to get work done, and get it done fast and 
 efficiently?

You probably shouldn't assume that developers are either (a) trying to
thwart you deliberately or (b) actually paying attention to your
individual needs.  Software development is just not the same thing as
paid support.  If you need paid support, there are solutions for that,
but arguments on opensolaris-discuss probably won't get there.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Possible IBM aquisition of Sun

2009-04-06 Thread James Carlson
Alexander Vlasov writes:
 Have you tried aptitude?

I sure have.  Having suffered long enough with apt and aptitude on
Debian is what eventually drove me to convert my home system from
Linux to Solaris.  :-/

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Re: [osol-discuss] disconnecting hdd from zfs mirror hangs whole system

2009-04-06 Thread James Carlson
[corrected top-post]

Alexander Vlasov writes:
 roland wrote:
  i added a bugreport to bugster for this yesterday. unfortunately, i dumped 
  the response mail with the bug-id and now i cannot find my own bugreport 
  anymore. 
  (did somebody delete that?)
  
  as this thread is linked from the bugster bugreport, whoever is
  reading this thread please post the bug id here.
 
 Knowing your SunID it would take 5 minutes. Bugster supports reported 
 email as search criterion.

It's CR 6826247.  I don't see where anything was deleted.

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[osol-discuss] fun with aptitude [was Re: Possible IBM aquisition of Sun]

2009-04-06 Thread James Carlson
Alexander Vlasov writes:
 That's really strange. Have you read
 /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README?

I didn't specify what problems I had, so I guess I don't see why it's
necessarily strange.

And, yes, for the record, I did read the documentation.  I'd been
running Linux for years before I gave up.

 currently pkg has very rudimentary search ability, like you can't ask 
 `which packages were installed only to satifsy other packages' 
 dependencies', `show me all games' or `which packages has arrived into 
 repository since last update'. Some search abilities of aptitude aren't 
 even applicable in pkg since pkg doesn't have appropriate concepts (like 
 priorities; pkg only supports `preferred' and `other' repos, no 
 arrangement by-priority)

The nasty problem I had with aptitude was (with Debian 'unstable';
'stable' had too few features) wandering into dark corners with
certain desired upgrades being prohibited because of a lack of version
compatibility in other packages, and other upgrades causing still
other bits to begin failing.  The real issue, I suspect, is a lack of
stability and basic architecture in the underlying system, but it
shows through the packaging system as the most annoying sort of chaos.

I had no problems searching for packages.  I did have problems with
random packages breaking over time.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Clean Install ZFS root SNV_110 Panics at Boot

2009-04-03 Thread James Carlson
aric writes:
 The failsafe does not appear to understand the 'boot' command. I tried 
 setting the svcadm milestone -d none: svcadm Repository is read-only. 
 Exiting. Init 6 and rebooting puts me back to the same problem. Can I edit 
 grub to do this?

Yes.  At boot time, edit the grub entry (with 'e'), select the kernel
entry, and edit (again, 'e') to add -m milestone=none (for instance).

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Re: [osol-discuss] libumem.so problem in Solaris 8

2009-04-02 Thread James Carlson
Jason King writes:
 On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Anandram anandra...@huawei.com wrote:
  Also, please let me know whether the library /usr/lib/libumem.so is present 
  in solaris 8? or it is present only in solaris 9 and above versions?
 
 This isn't really the place for Solaris 8 or 9 support.  But to answer
 the question, I wasn't aware of an official libumem backport.  Either
 way the error is saying your're trying to use a 32bit lib with a 64bit
 binary.
 
 Try /usr/lib/sparcv9/libumem.so instead.

Or just leave out the path.  LD_PRELOAD=libumem.so.1 should work.

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Re: [osol-discuss] useradd

2009-04-01 Thread James Carlson
Hanma writes:
 I can't understand what to do to authorise the user. I can't understand this
 -A authorization
 One or more comma separated authorizations defined in auth_attr(4). Only a 
 user or role who has grant rights to the authorization can assign it to an 
 account.
 
 what I must to write after -A? Please give me an example. I searched 
 everywhere, but i can't find what to write.

Did you try looking at the auth_attr(4) man page?

An example might be:

  useradd -A solaris.admin.usermgr.pswd passfixer

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Re: [osol-discuss] DHCP obtained address random released

2009-04-01 Thread James Carlson
zhang yi writes:
   This issue annoy me so much. I am now using opensolaris 101a version. The 
 NIC card release its DHCP obtained IP address automatically without renew its 
 address after maybe 24 hrs of work. The address disappears without notice. 
 wow... So fancy features...
   This seems also exist in 106 based opensolaris.

Better mailing lists for this might be networking-discuss and/or
nwam-discuss.

It's hard to tell from that description what problem you might be
having.  It could be a driver problem, something wrong with the DHCP
server, or even a bad IP filter configuration.  I suggest starting
here to gather some useful information about the problem:

  http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/nwam/picea/troubleshooting/

and (after gathering debug logs) try posting on one of the lists
described above, or (if you're certain you've found a problem in the
system) use defect.opensolaris.org to file a bug.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Does wvdial work for OpenSolaris?

2009-03-30 Thread James Carlson
Martin Bochnig writes:
 On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:00 AM, Paul Harper pjhar...@yahoo.com wrote:
  I use wvdial to connect to my gprs phone with Linux. I have tried to find a 
  ready made  wvdial package for OpenSolaris but apparently one does not 
  exist.
 
  Would wvdial work for OpenSolaris if compiled or is OpenSolaris's version 
  of pppd so different from Linux that it would not work?
 
 
 Mmh, the ppp implementation should not be the blocker.
 Circa since Solaris 8 June 2000 (Update 1) Solaris uses exactly the
 same pppd, as LinUX does.
 Namely exactly pppd, rather than the UUCP based aspppd.

Yes.  And in fact, that version of PPP (originally written at CMU,
then maintained at ANU, and now by samba.org) was originally written
well before there was such a thing as Linux, and it ran on SunOS and
Solaris systems before Linux itself was written.

That people confuse pppd with Linux is unfortunate but expected.  :-/

In any event, I don't know of anyone who has tried to run wvDial on
Solaris.  I would expect that it could be ported with some effort, as
it's just a user-level application.  (Scanning the web, it seems it
relies on something called WvStreams, which others have tried and
failed to port to other systems.)

I haven't tried myself, mostly because my experience with ease of
use tools like this is poor: they don't always work, and when they
fail, you're usually worse off than you were before.  I find it easier
just to configure pppd properly.

But if someone wanted a project, porting that stuff over and
contributing it would probably be a good one.

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Re: [osol-discuss] useradd

2009-03-30 Thread James Carlson
Hanma writes:
 how to use useradd comand in terminal? i can't understand how in manual. can 
 you give me example?

# useradd newuser

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[osol-discuss] package naming [was RE: Which Samba packages to use and, what do Usr, Kernel, Root packages me]

2009-03-28 Thread James Carlson
a b writes:
  and there are
  some obscure ones (such as the .u and .v architecture-specific
  packages).
 
 Aaahhh! Now things are getting to be really interesting!  I love such arcane 
 knowledge,
 if you don't mind, please share insight on what these meant, if you have any.

They're still around.  The .u is for sun4u and .v is for sun4v.

For example, if you look a the SPARC Solaris install media, you'll see
two packages, one named SUNWcar.u and the other named SUNWcar.v.
One has ARCH=sparc.sun4u and the other has ARCH=sparc.sun4v.  The
installer has some magic to make sure that the right ones are
installed.

 IPS is long ways away from being useful, and it's slow; on top of that, they 
 really shot
 themselves in the foot with setting GNU to be the default.

IPS is a work in progress.  They're nowhere near done, so I think it's
pretty unfair to judge them.  It would be better at this point to
contribute constructively (e.g., if you find a performance problem,
analyze it, and fix it).

For what it's worth, I'm slowly converting my systems over from SX:CE
to the OpenSolaris distribution.  It's tough work, but given the
direction things are going, I think it'll eventually be worthwhile.

And since I have simple control over my own path by setting $PATH, the
GNU by default thing never really bugged me.  I was more harmed by
ancient (and awful) scripts of mine finally going kablooie and forcing
me to fix the old bugs they had.

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Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] General THANKLESS- and RESPECTLESSness towards Joerg Schilling (and others, which I leave out of this msg.) __/__ Was: Emergency project to rescue Opensolaris from IBM

2009-03-25 Thread James Carlson
Garrett D'Amore writes:
 I don't know who Jennifer is, but I think everyone who's had more than 
 passing experience with either Solaris or OpenSolaris knows that Joerg 
 has made some real contributions.  While Jennifer's comments are 
 unfortunate, I don't think they are representative of any community, and 
 I think all the parties concerned (excepting perhaps Jennifer herself) 
 already know that.  Its not worth getting too upset over, I think.

Indeed.  procmail works great for solving problems like this.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Which Samba packages to use and, what do Usr, Kernel, Root packages me

2009-03-24 Thread James Carlson
UNIX admin writes:
 The r is the root portion of this component, payload which goes into / 
 (usually /etc/, which is in the / filesystem).
 Then there is the u portion of the component, which goes into the /usr 
 filesystem.
 Finally there is the kr portion of the component, which usually delivers 
 (kernel) drivers.

For what it's worth, those are just naming conventions, and not
everything follows that naming.  The actual package type is set by the
SUNW_PKGTYPE variable, described in the pkginfo(4) man page.

The reason that there's a distinction between root and usr bits is
that Solaris (at least at one point) supported booting off of a small
local disk (containing just /), and remote mounting /usr.  More
generally, it's because /usr is noted as a supported mount point in
filesystem(5).

The kernel distinction has to do at least in part with Zones.  A zone
has both root and usr packages, but there's no point at all in putting
kernel drivers into a zone.

We've had other packaging and naming distinctions in the past, such as
the regular and x (64 bit) packages [removed in S10], and there are
some obscure ones (such as the .u and .v architecture-specific
packages).

Most of this arcana, though, is probably fading in meaning.  Sun's
OpenSolaris distribution no longer bases the system on System V
packaging.

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Re: [osol-discuss] IBM and Auschwitz __/__ Re: Possible IBM aquisition of Sun

2009-03-23 Thread James Carlson
Martin Bochnig writes:
 Be also aware, that IBM supported Nazi-Germany's dead-camps, by
 selling the needed information technology to them:

Many thanks from all of us for Godwinning this pointless thread.  It
needed to be done.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

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Re: [osol-discuss] IBM and Auschwitz __/__ Re: Possible IBM aquisition of Sun

2009-03-23 Thread James Carlson
ольга крыжановская writes:
 On 3/23/09, James Carlson james.d.carl...@sun.com wrote:
  Martin Bochnig writes:
Be also aware, that IBM supported Nazi-Germany's dead-camps, by
selling the needed information technology to them:
 
 
  Many thanks from all of us for Godwinning this pointless thread.  It
   needed to be done.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
 
 James, this is not very funny. Do you wish to hear what the Nazis did
 in the Ukraine?

I don't wish to hear about it on opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org,
where it is entirely off-topic.

I also don't wish to hear more about the business deal that may or may
not occur between Sun and some other corporation on this list.
Besides being essentially just rumor-mongering, the discussion is
being had by folks who *by definition* have no useful information
about the topic -- none of them could have special information on the
deal, if there indeed is one -- rendering the whole thing just plain
pointless.

In any event, many thanks again for killing off the thread.  It's
quite welcome.

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Re: [osol-discuss] IBM and Auschwitz __/__ Re: Possible IBM aquisition of Sun

2009-03-23 Thread James Carlson
Alan Coopersmith writes:
 Martin Bochnig wrote:
  Be also aware, that IBM supported Nazi-Germany's dead-camps, by
  selling the needed information technology to them:
 
 It's highly unlikely anyone working at IBM in the late 1930's/early 1940's
 is still working there.   Blaming the current IBM employees for the actions
 of some of their predecessors makes no more sense than blaming everyone in
 Germany today for the horrific actions taken by some of the people who were
 there 70 years ago.So like Jim, I don't see any real relevance to
 current events there.

Actually, that's not quite what Jim was saying.  He was saying that he
sees no relevance whatsoever to this list, at least at this point in
time.

I'll leave questions of collective guilt and the historical record for
those better equipped to answer them.  Fortunately, we needn't resolve
them here ... as they're still quite glaringly off-topic.

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Re: [osol-discuss] wireless browsing is slow

2009-03-20 Thread James Carlson
W. Wayne Liauh writes:
  have you tested whether it is slow with another OS?
  can you provide a comparison in performance on the
  same wlan between windows and opensolaris.
 
 As I have been told, many of the wireless-related problems will be solved in 
 build 110.  Fingers crossed.

The fix for CR 6805726 went into build 110.  It seems to have updated
the 'iwh', 'iwk', and 'wpi' drivers.  Users of 'iwk' have reported
that the new driver is *much* more stable.

That seems to be the only wireless fix in build 110, but for those
affected by stability problems on those drivers, it seems to be a
biggie.

There are fixes for problems in many of the wired drivers as well, but
none looks as interesting.

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Re: [osol-discuss] files newer than a certain hours/minutes

2009-03-16 Thread James Carlson
Omer Faruk Sen writes:
 I have just realised that even Solaris 10's find command has not cmin
 option (which is valid for Linux) there is only ctime is used for
 Days. How can I check files which are created for example 1 hour ago?

In addition to the common touch-based work-around, you can also just
invoke GNU find as gfind on OpenSolaris, and, just as on Linux, it
has the -cmin option.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Opensolaris Bible: Buy it!

2009-03-12 Thread James Carlson
Harry Putnam writes:
 I wanted to partition and slice up my disk to be able to work with
 raidz.  Maybe that isn't really important and all the same stuff
 applies to  any zpool.  I don't know yet... I'm just getting
 started. 

I'm not sure that's a wise idea in the first place.  A RAID volume
tries to spread the I/O load across the members.  If you do that with
multiple partitions, you're naturally going to get the lowest possible
performance -- causing the disk head to bounce back and forth between
partitions on each access.

It's redundant array of inexpensive *disks*, not partitions.  As
Dave said, your best bet is to feed ZFS a whole disk, and let it do as
it will with it.

 I had some trouble getting advice about making raidz on partitions,
 probably because it isn't the best usage of raidz or even of zfs.

Indeed.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Regarding Pstack

2009-03-12 Thread James Carlson
Akhil Jain writes:
 Can you please tell me some good doc links about understanding the output of 
 Pstack. Like when I do a pstack on my process it shows like:
 
 0009a890 main (1c, ffbff45c, ffbff4d0, 24d000, fd0a0380, fd0a03c0) + 2018
  00098448 _start   (0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0) + 108
 
 So I want to know what exactly is +2018 or +108 . I want to know about 
 the contents of the stack of a process.

Those numbers are the actual offset (in hex) of the program counter
from the symbol given.

In other words, the stack shows that a call was made from _start+108
to the function main(), and the program counter is currently at the
instruction main+2018.

The numbers on the left-hand side are the stack frame pointers.  The
numbers in parenthesis are the values of the registers usually used
for argument passing.  (There's no guarantee that they represent the
actual passed values, as the compiler tends to reuse registers.  You
need to look at the actual assembly code to tease this information
apart.)

This probably isn't terribly interesting information unless you're
looking at the code in a debugger, such as mdb.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Copying files and folders

2009-03-12 Thread James Carlson
Hanma writes:
 What means ''grep: illegal option -- q
 Usage: grep -hblcnsviw pattern file . . .
 grep: illegal option -- q
 Usage: grep -hblcnsviw pattern file . . .
 
 it don't works. There is message ./install.sh[1756]: cd: 
 usr/share/icons/hicolor: [No such file or directory]
 cp: cannot access usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/opera.png
 cp: cannot access usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/opera.png
 cp: cannot access usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/apps/opera.png

It means that the person who wrote the script assumed that 'grep'
would take a -q option.  That's true for the POSIX standards-
conforming grep (/usr/xpg4/bin/grep) and for GNU grep
(/usr/gnu/bin/grep), but unfortunately not true for /usr/bin/grep on
Solaris.

The problem is in this part of the 'install.sh' script (lines
1194-1197):

manifest_contains ()
{
grep -q $1'$' Manifest.md5
}

Changing that grep to ggrep should fix the problem.

(For what it's worth, lack of support of -q in the default
/usr/bin/grep is just a bug, not an intentional feature.)

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Re: [osol-discuss] Any groups working on consol developement

2009-03-09 Thread James Carlson
Harry Putnam writes:
 Lingbo Tang lingbo.t...@sun.com writes:
  There have been virtual console functionality in solaris kernel. It's
  easy to
  extend the console environment, like scrollable screen in future.
  You can refer to project page on opensolaris.org for the latest status.
  If anyone from community can offer help, that will be great.
 
 Thank you.
 
 I'm not sure which project you mean... something here?
http://opensolaris.org/os/projects/#portal

http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/vconsole/

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Re: [osol-discuss] Link to phoronix benchmark on opensolaris.com

2009-03-04 Thread James Carlson
Lurie writes:
 Seriously guys,
 
 What on earth is the link to AMD Shanghai Opteron: Linux vs. OpenSolaris 
 Benchmarks doing on main page of opensolaris.com ? That article is seriously 
 biased towards Linux as has been discussed many times already. Way to put 
 potential users off... :)

It looks like something that's auto-generated to me, not something
that was put there intentionally.

In any event, aren't we opensolaris.org here and not opensolaris.com?

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Re: [osol-discuss] opensolaris.org not responding

2009-03-03 Thread James Carlson
m...@bruningsystems.com writes:
 I would post this to website-discuss, except that I am not on that 
 mailing list.
 To get on that mailing list, I need to get to opensolaris.org.  
 www.opensolaris.org
 has timed out every time I have tried it today.  I am having no problems 
 with any
 other sites.

You can also subscribe to mailing lists by using the -request
address.  Just send a subscription request to:

website-discuss-requ...@opensolaris.org

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Re: [osol-discuss] EADDRINUSE error even after setting SO_REUSEADDR

2009-03-03 Thread James Carlson
neelesh writes:
I am running a TCP client and TCP server in the same machine(64 bit x86 
 machine with Solaris 10). The Server and Client establish a connection and 
 exchange messages. The port used by them is in TIME_WAIT state, after the 
 completion.
 
   If I run the  Server and Client programs again immediately within the 
 TIME_WAIT state, in the Client program I get the errno 125 when it tries to 
 connect(). I am using IPv6 addresses. I ensured to set the socket option 
 SO_REUSEADDR.
 
Can some one help me if there is any way to overcome this error.

Can you post your code?

At a guess, you might not have set the socket option before doing the
bind() call, as is generally required for TCP-speaking servers.  But
that's just a guess.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Basic questions about pkg

2009-03-02 Thread James Carlson
Harry Putnam writes:
 James Carlson james.d.carl...@sun.com writes:
  There aren't any.  Should there be?
 
 I'm not telling pkg where to connect to on the command line.  Yet it
 knows.  Its getting information somewhere... in some sense that is a
 configuration.

There are no files that are documented for you to tweak.  Yes, of
course, the information is stored in a file.  It's not documented,
because it may change.

 I guess I'm asksing how to control that.

pkg set-authority

 
  http://pkg.opensolaris.org/dev/
 
 [...]
 
 OK, thanks.  So will that be integrated into my `image' or will I need
 to upgrade everything to dev for a new `image'?

It switches you from the stable branch to the development branch.
When you do an upgrade, you'll be pulling the newer development bits.

 I now have several on the grub menu when I boot, but looking in
 /boot/grub I don't find anything that resembles what I see at
 boot time.

You shouldn't need to do that.  What are you trying to do?

 I guess this is another case of there being no configuration.  So If I
 wanted to remove some of those BE... how would I do that?  Just by the
 `e' edit key at boot time?

See beadm(1M).

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Re: [osol-discuss] Basic questions about pkg

2009-02-28 Thread James Carlson
Harry Putnam writes:
 what does an `authority' designation look like (the URL).

Here are two:

http://pkg.opensolaris.org/
http://pkg.opensolaris.org/dev/

 Where is that set if not command line (pkg -a AUTH)?

One comes with the system as normally installed.

 I did not find info about where to find any configuration files for
 pkg. 

There aren't any.  Should there be?

 Also was not at all clear (to me) how to add a new addon authority.
 I mean in a configuration... not from command line.  I did see the
 `-a' flag but no real description of what the URL would consist of.

You do it from the command line.  I assume by in a configuration,
you mean that you _want_ to edit a file.  It doesn't work that way.

 For example, I'm running opensol-11 installed from the official CD.
 Whatever authority it sets up, doesn't know anything about the pkg
 `lynx'.
 
 
 Although I saw on google that it is available in a SUN pkg somewhere.
 
 How would I tell pkg how to find that and install it.
 `pkg search -r lynx' doesn't find it.

I think lynx integrated as of build 106, which means that it's not
yet on the stable branch.  You can pick it up by moving to the dev
branch -- by making your authority be this:

http://pkg.opensolaris.org/dev/

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Re: [osol-discuss] emacs under solaris suggested keybindings please

2009-02-20 Thread James Carlson
Dag H. Wanvik writes:
 Dieter Kluenter die...@dkluenter.de writes:
 
  and a ~/.xmodmaprc file
  keycode 64 = Meta_L Alt_L
  this allows Alt+x operations
 
 Personally, I chose to use this stanza in my .emacs file to avoid
 changing the meaning of Alt and Meta for other programs:
 
 (setq x-alt-keysym 'meta)

I haven't found that the above works for the odd changes in the Xorg
server that occurred between 106 and 107.  After a bunch of trial and
error (mostly error), I found that the following, though, does restore
normal operation:

  xmodmap -e clear mod4

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[osol-discuss] what are all these versions anyway? [was Re: emacs under solaris suggested keybindings please]

2009-02-20 Thread James Carlson
Harry Putnam writes:
 (If this question seems to off topic, please feel free to reply
 privately if you have time)

No problem.  I've changed the subject line to match the new topic.

 Fisrt, thanks for the additional tip.
 
 I'm very new here (on osol) and somewhat lost about mentions of
 version I see in the various news groups.  Names like Nevada and
 Indiana also apparently versions.

Not exactly.

Nevada is the code name for the next Minor release of Solaris after
Solaris 10.  It was given a code name rather than a number
(essentially) because marketing reserves the right to compute N+1 at a
later time.  ;-}

OpenSolaris (the source code) and Nevada are effectively the same
thing right now.

Indiana is the name of a project.  That project is producing
something called the OpenSolaris distribution, which is based on a
new installer and software packaging system.  A distribution is a
packaged form of the code that you can run on a system.  There are
many distributions using (or based on) OpenSolaris; see the web site
for more information.

Yes, it's a little confusing to have two distinct things both called
OpenSolaris -- a source base and a distribution -- but that's how it
is.

There's also the Solaris Express distribution, which is the old
installer and uses SysV packaging.  This is slowly being replaced, and
still exists because it's required for those who build from source.

Finally, there are build numbers.  These are incremented every two
weeks.  Because they're tracked at the source level, most
distributions number their releases based on the build number.

 At a uname -a prompt I see `5.11 snv_101b'.  I wondered if you might
 be able to steer me to documentation that explains how versioning and
 the various names work under Solaris? 
 
 You mention 106 and 107.. where do those come from?

If you're using the OpenSolaris distribution (and it sounds like you
are), then you need to switch to the dev branch to see the newer
builds -- change your authority to http://pkg.opensolaris.org/dev/;.
If you do that, you should be able to upgrade to each of the weekly
builds.

The 101b build was the one released as OpenSolaris 2008.11.  There'll
likely be another such stable release in a few months for those who
aren't on the dev train.

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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris install on x4150?

2009-02-17 Thread James Carlson
Rich Reynolds writes:
 I had a similar problem on different hardware, and found that hand 
 plumbing the interface and re-enable nwam served as a sufficient work 
 around...

svcadm clear nwam is the simpler work-around.

The real problem here isn't nwam, but the device subsystem, which
(inconsistently) requires all privileges in order to open the DLD
control node early in boot.  The fix (integrated into build 109) is to
make nwamd open the device using all privileges (sigh).

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Re: [osol-discuss] Build error (dmake: Warning: Target `all.targ' not remade because of errors)

2009-02-05 Thread James Carlson
Henry Lau writes:
 Hi,
 
 While trying to build the latest src of opensolaris with Studio 12, I hit 
 following errors. Any idea what I did wrong. Thanks!
 
 /export/home/bl/Desktop/usr/src/tools/proto/opt/onbld/bin/i386/ctfconvert -i 
 -L VERSION debug32/modhash.o
 dmake: Warning: Target `all.targ' not remade because of errors
 Current working directory /export/home/bl/Desktop/usr/src/uts/intel/genunix

The crucial information that would identify the problem is _above_
this point in your 'nightly.log' file.  The above text shows that
dmake has detected an error while building all.targ in genunix, but
doesn't show what actual build rule failed or how it failed.

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Re: [osol-discuss] opensolaris + pppoe

2008-12-17 Thread James Carlson
Ulrich Hiller writes:
 My files look like this:
 /etc/ppp/peers/myisp:
[...]
 user [my account name at my ISP]
 password [my password at my ISP]

Use either the (old) password option, or the more modern
/etc/ppp/*-secrets files, but not both.  It's not necessary to specify
the password both ways.

 /etc/ppp/options.iprb0:
 38400 
 asyncmap 0xa 

Those two options don't make sense here, and should be removed.

 /etc/ppp/myisp-chat:

That file isn't involved -- there's no text mode chatting on a PPPoE
link -- ignore it.

 When I now run
 `pppd call myisp' I get a short LED blink at the dsl modem but a 
 connection is not established. There cannot be a hardware or modem 
 problem, because under several linux distributions it works.
 
 /var/adm/messages does not give a message about it. 
 /etc/ppp/connect-errors says
 2008/12/14 18:57:13CET: /usr/lib/inet/pppoec: PPPoE operation requires 
 the use of a tunneling device
 
 What does that mean? Can somebody give me a hint what I have to do?

It means that you haven't run /usr/sbin/sppptun to configure iprb0 for
use with PPPoE.  Setting up the /etc/ppp/pppoe.if file makes sure that
this happens at system boot time, but changes to that file don't
affect the running system.

You can simulate the same thing that happens at boot (and thus
configure iprb0 for use with PPPoE tunneling) by doing this:

pfexec /etc/init.d/pppd

See the sppptun(1M) man page for more information.

If you have other problems with PPP, please do run it with the debug
option, and post any issues to networking-disc...@opensolaris.org.

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Re: [osol-discuss] [on-discuss] New community based development list

2008-12-10 Thread James Carlson
Ghee Teo writes:
 C. Bergström wrote:
  Thanks for the support Alexander.. I think the reception from those 
  outside Sun is quite positive so far.

 +1 from me. Another one from inside Sun :)

He's gotten several +1s from inside Sun (including one from me), and,
as far as I can tell, nobody posting from a sun.com account has said
otherwise, at least publicly.

That he's still qualifying that statement seems quite strange to me.

In any event, I think he's fixing a problem that doesn't actually
exist, removing barriers that are purely imaginary.

If you want to make changes in the code -- go ahead.  Knock yourself
out.  Compile and distribute (or not) that code as you see fit.  You
can also share your changes on hg.opensolaris.org with fairly minimal
overhead; there's just enough of a fog-a-mirror test there to make
sure we don't have a pile of p0rn and ripped software repositories set
up by bad guys.

The part of the process that has overhead occurs only _IF_ you choose
to integrate into the common gate.  That requires review (sometimes
multiple kinds of review, depending on the kind of change) and
testing, so that the common gate doesn't just become a cesspool.

If the request is to create a random project to do something possibly
interesting to zero or more people, then +1.  Go for it, even if the
result is a long-lived fork.  If the request here really is for the
common ON gate to become a cesspool, though, I'd have to give a -1 to
that.  I don't think anyone could possibly benefit from such a result,
even the original requester.

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Re: [osol-discuss] SUNWgnome-im-client breaks beadm

2008-12-09 Thread James Carlson
paul writes:
 robs schrieb:
  # pkg install SUNWgnome-im-client
  DOWNLOADPKGS   FILES XFER (MB)
  Completed  67/67 11346/11346 143.05/143.05
 [snip]
 pathetic isn't it? The bottom line is: you can't install software with 
 pkg as you will end up with an inconsistent system image. The only 
 halfway safe command is pkg image-update.

You *can* end up inconsistent that way because it pulls in the
dependencies, but doesn't chase back up the chain to find what was
dependent on those things.  I believe it's a known problem, and the
simple solution (until the problem is fixed) is to do image-update
before adding any packages.

 It totally escapes me how opensolaris managed to mess up the distinction 
   between OS and applications even more than all those stupid linux 
 package managers.

I don't believe it has anything to do with any such distinction.

 Get a life, use windows ;)

I think you're missing at least the word or in that statement ...

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Re: [osol-discuss] [on-discuss] New community based development list

2008-12-09 Thread James Carlson
Shawn Walker writes:
 If have no idea why you think you can't do all of that using 
 opensolaris.org, but good luck.

I think the original complaint is the need for code review before ON
integration.  It's too slow.

But +1 to both of your comments.

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Re: [osol-discuss] where to file bugs for s10 u6?

2008-12-01 Thread James Carlson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I get an error using ::whatis in mdb with solaris 10 update 6.
 
  30001d69f00::whatis
 mdb: couldn't find modctl walker: unknown walk name
 
 
 Do I need a support contract to file a bug?  If not, where is the
 right place?  (I tried google, but I guess I am not searching for the
 right thing).

You'll likely need a support contract to get a fix, and filing a bug
through support is probably the best approach.

Filing a bug at bugs.opensolaris.org for an S10 problem, though, will
eventually get to the right place, at least for evaluation.  The
system isn't very automated, and we have to triage the bugs arriving
through there by hand.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Using NWAM to connect to secured wifi networks

2008-11-26 Thread James Carlson
Roman Strobl writes:
 is there a way to connect using NWAM to a secured wifi network that 
 doesn't broadcast it's SSID?

See:

  http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=5048

It's a bug we're currently fixing.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Using NWAM to connect to secured wifi networks

2008-11-26 Thread James Carlson
Roman Strobl writes:
  It's a bug we're currently fixing.
 Thanks! I assume that this will not get fixed for 2008.11, right?

2008.11 is already out the door.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Any xemacs users out there? I could use some advice wrt packaging xemacs for OpenSolaris

2008-11-24 Thread James Carlson
Gordon Prieur writes:
 I tried contacting an xemacs user who used to work at Sun, but it looks 
 like he no
 longer works at Sun.

There are some around.  I think Sebastien Roy is one.

The excess of GUI grot annoys me, so I stick with GNU emacs with X.  A
few others around here use one of the emacs flavors inside a terminal
window (for no reason I can see).

 I looked at the mailing lists at xemacs.org and it 
 looks like a
 usenet newsgroup is their primary mailing list.

NNTP -- try news1nwk.sfbay for a SWAN-based server, or just use
google's news access.

 As soon as I figure out 
 what tools Sun
 has for reading from and sending to newsgroups, I'll post there (I 
 haven't read news
 groups sine the late 80's:-)

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Re: [osol-discuss] [Fwd: [accessibility-discuss] I have some questions]

2008-11-14 Thread James Carlson
Li Yuan writes:
 Hi, I am going to try open solaris, but I have to get more memory first.
 My questions are as follows.
How forgiving is open solaris to times when the computer looses power. I 
 know this can be a serious problem in windows, but I have had no problem when 
 this happened with my ubuntu machine.

Very forgiving.  ZFS is designed to maintain coherent data on the disk
at all times; all writes are scheduled so that the disk data
structures move from one known-correct state to another, so there's no
need for fsck or Windows chkdsk.

UFS (not used by default anymore) includes a transaction logging
feature that's enabled by default.  This also protects against
corruption in case of failure.

Right now you need 750 Mb to run the live CD. Is this going to be 
 corrected so 512 Mb will work?

I doubt it.  We're generally moving forward in time rather than
backwards, and new machines aren't getting less memory.  But do check
with the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list about the installer
technology.  Perhaps it'd even be possible for you (or someone else
who cares about old systems) to start a project to support that.

I would also like to know if there is a add remove programs feature for 
 picking software?

Sure.  On the OpenSolaris distribution, that's the pkg(1) command, and
in the GNOME desktop, there are GUI tools under System-Administration
for package management and upgrades.

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Re: [osol-discuss] [Fwd: [accessibility-discuss] I have some questions]

2008-11-14 Thread James Carlson
Glenn Lagasse writes:
 Several of us have been working on fixing this for a few weeks now.
 We're mostly 'there', just a few loose ends to tie up as it were.  The
 formal release of 2008.11 should install on systems with only 512M of
 ram.

Cool!

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Re: [osol-discuss] Seeking OpenSolaris help for Fluendo

2008-11-06 Thread James Carlson
Brian Cameron writes:
 Perhaps you misunderstand how codeina works, or I misunderstand
 something.  The codeina application autodetects when a user tries to
 play a file that can't be played due to a lack of a codec.  If Fluendo
 offers a codec for sale that enables playing that format, it pops up
 a window.  The window steps the user through purchasing the plugin
 (via a mozembed plugin accessing their webstore), then after purchase
 it downloads the package and installs the plugins for you.

I think there might be some simple ways to do this.  One would be to
have the codeina install process itself save a file somewhere on the
system (under /var might be good) indicating exactly what kind of
package was used to install codeina itself, and where it was installed
from.  Each distribution format of codeina can install a different
file indicating how and where to get more.

You then use this at run time to determine how to get more packages.
The assumption is that the mechanism used to install codeina is the
same as the common one that the user wants for all packages, and that
you can have slightly different data in each package format you
distribute, generated as part of the packaging process.

I think the worst way to solve this problem would be to condition the
logic based on the platform.  There's no obvious or reliable
technical definition of platform (it's more of a marketing issue),
nor does there appear to be a way to tie platform into anything
about preferred installation method.

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Re: [osol-discuss] /etc/release on Solaris Express

2008-10-28 Thread James Carlson
Andrew Wasilczuk writes:
 Thanks James, this makes sense.  The software I'd like to patch is 
 called facter[1], which I use with puppet[2] to automate the management 
 of our freebsd servers.  Now I'd like to use it with opensolaris.  
 Facter basically returns facts about the operating system, such as the 
 hostname, kernel version etc.  The previous release worked fine, but 
 since the new version they've added the operatingsystemrelease fact to 
 solaris 10 (which uses /etc/release) and it broke on opensolaris because 
 the formating is different.

That sounds like a bug to file against 'facter' ... though there are
complications here.  One of the complications is that it's unclear
what naming is being used for OpenSolaris.

OpenSolaris (the source base) is still using the code-name Nevada
bi-weekly build numbering system, which is a system that we use for
marketing releases under development.  It's the way we've developed
Solaris effectively forever.  That makes those builds unreleased or
work in progress artifacts.  That includes the Solaris Express
builds.

OpenSolaris (the distribution) has its own numbering system, but it's
not yet an integrated project, so the state of it as a release is
quite unclear to me.  I suppose the 'facter' folks could discuss the
issue with the OpenSolaris Indiana project team if they were
interested in supporting it.  There probably should be something
available that can be tested.

 On my solaris 10 box the operatingsystemrelease fact returns 10_u5.  I 
 guess on opensolaris this should be set to snv_XX (which, I can take 
 from uname so no problem).  On Solaris 10 what's the best place to get 
 the exact release from (including the update number) other than from 
 /etc/release?

The release is `uname -r`.  Updates are *not* distinct releases in
that sense, because they are all part of one patch train.  In
particular, it's possible to install some of the patches that are part
of one Update without upgrading everything to the entire Update.  What
should the tool report in those cases?  10_u4.5?

It might be possible to get the KJP information from `uname -v`
... but I suspect that whatever is depending on seeing the string
10_u5 is itself broken, and the right string should be 10 or (more
properly) 5.10.

In other words, I disagree with what they're doing.  I don't have
enough context to figure out a better solution, but I what you're
reporting doesn't make sense to me.

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Re: [osol-discuss] snv_99 jumpstart issue

2008-10-27 Thread James Carlson
Tom Albers writes:
 My jumpstart no longer works as of build snv_99.  Build snv_98 works fine.
 Problem occurs on both SPARC and x64 architectures.  Is there an existing
 CR and a workaround?

It might be CR 6760873 ... but the bug system seems to be down.  :-

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Re: [osol-discuss] /etc/release on Solaris Express

2008-10-27 Thread James Carlson
Andrew Wasilczuk writes:
 I'm patching a bit of software to work on opensolaris which uses 
 /etc/release to get system information from.  I've only got indiana 
 installed here and I'm not sure how different /etc/release is on sxde.  
 It would be nice to make it work on both.  Could someone with sxde 
 around please paste the contents of their /etc/release so that I can 
 have a look at the formating?  Or is it exactly the same as on indiana?

Here's /etc/release from an OpenSolaris system:

  OpenSolaris 2008.11 snv_99 X86
   Copyright 2008 Sun Microsystems, Inc.  All Rights Reserved.
Use is subject to license terms.
Assembled 08 October 2008

and one from Solaris Express:

  Solaris Express Community Edition snv_101 X86
   Copyright 2008 Sun Microsystems, Inc.  All Rights Reserved.
Use is subject to license terms.
Assembled 20 October 2008

However, I'd say that if you're using the contents of /etc/release to
make any automated decisions, then you're pretty much on your own.
Those aren't in any way stable interfaces -- we don't commit to any
sort of stability in the text contained in that file, or the even the
formatting of the text, other than to say that it should be readable
by a human who understands English.  If we wanted to change these four
lines to read:

Sorry
We
Broke
You

... there'd be no real impediment to doing it.  ;-}

I recommend using something else to perform whatever test it is that
you're performing -- or find a way to avoid the test entirely.

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Re: [osol-discuss] /etc/release on Solaris Express

2008-10-27 Thread James Carlson
Ian Collins writes:
 James Carlson wrote:
  If we wanted to change these four
  lines to read:
 
  Sorry
  We
  Broke
  You
 
  ... there'd be no real impediment to doing it.  ;-}
 Is Sun relocating to Redmond?
 
 :)

No.  I'm just trying to make it really clear that this file was
intended for human eyes.  If you're scripting around it, you've
wandered off the reservation.  You may get hurt, and it's not
necessarily the case that anyone will notice ... or come to your
rescue.

It's like parsing the contents of man pages.  It might work ... but
probably not for long.

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Re: [osol-discuss] [OT] was Re: The future of the IPS system

2008-10-24 Thread James Carlson
Martin Bochnig writes:
 Also: I'm not talking about getting famous like Madonna. It would be
 very nice already, if _certain_ folks would stop throwing fish at me.
 Or better: If the community would protect me from experiences like
 that.

I doubt that having others choose a different packaging system
(whether that's RPM in Nexenta, SysV in SX, IPS in OpenSolaris)
necessarily hinders someone else from choosing yet another packaging
system.  Except for a user fan base, I see no obvious competition
between these systems.

If it's good and people want it, it'll stand on its own merits.  If
it's not, it won't.  That goes for IPS as well as it does for Conary
or anything else.

A more interesting question for this group, I think, is what
requirements need to put onto the projects delivering into OpenSolaris
consolidations so that those systems can work.  Right now, I think we
have a possibly unstable situation: the source isn't just 'source,' it
also (naturally) includes packaging information.  That information is
in SysV format, which (through scripting) has flexibility that other
systems (such as IPS) don't have, so accomodating those downstream
consumers (distribution constructors) is an issue.

Do we restrict projects to the least common denominator?  Somehow
abstract packaging away?  Select one mechanism as reference and
convert everything over?

We probably need something like an OpenSolaris-wide policy here.

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Re: [osol-discuss] sun qfe card

2008-10-20 Thread James Carlson
Steve Szabo writes:
 I recently built a new peecee with the intention of running Solaris 10.
 
 It seems that Solaris 10 x86 does not include support for the Sun Quad Fast 
 ethernet card.
 
 Is this card supported under OpenSolaris or any of the variants?

Neither hme nor qfe (same hardware, different package) are supported
on x86 yet.  These two are CRs 6342827 and 6401215.

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Re: [osol-discuss] crontab

2008-10-20 Thread James Carlson
Bill Shannon writes:
 I'm just asking about monitoring the messages file.  I'm researching
 it by asking here.  My budget is $0.  I'm hoping there's an obvious
 solution that's part of OpenSolaris.
 
 I found System Log Viewer, although it gives lots of error messages
 when started up.  I guess that's the right answer once it works.

Unfortunately, the bulk of messages that show up in the system log
files are not in any sense stable.  There's little that those
programs can rely on that we can't (or won't) change without notice,
even in a patch.

With rare exceptions, changes to those messages go through no review
at all.  The only standard is that the output is supposed to be
legible to an English-speaking human (i18n doesn't apply for debug
logs), or at least to a system administrator.

That doesn't mean that people don't try to parse them automatically
anyway.  There are several log-scraping 'solutions' out there, both
free and from commercial sources.  A common one is called Sawmill.

The right answer to this sort of problem is a structured, stable, and
documented facility, such as FMA or SNMP.  Getting the right answer
though costs far more than getting an expedient and fragile one.

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Re: [osol-discuss] crontab

2008-10-20 Thread James Carlson
Bill Shannon writes:
 In the olden days I could start up a console window that would display
 all the messages logged to the console.  Now the messages just go into
 the log file.

You can still do that.  I usually crank up something like this to
watch for log messages that would have gone to the system console:

  /usr/X11/bin/xterm -C -e /usr/bin/sleep 864000 

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Re: [osol-discuss] ISC DHCPD problem (3.1.1 version).

2008-10-17 Thread James Carlson
Miguel Da Silva - URI writes:
 svc-cswdhcp: Executing: /opt/csw/sbin/dhcpd  -d  -cf /opt/csw/etc/dhcpd.conf

I'm no ISC DHCP expert (I currently use the Solaris one), but the
above looks like a mistake to me.

The '-d' option enables debug *and* forces the daemon to run in the
foreground.  That's unlikely to be what you want.  It'll block the SMF
start method from completing, and when that times out, it'll go into
maintenance state.

Remove the '-d' (just use syslog for debugging) and you should be
fine.

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