[osol-discuss] Could we have XFCE/KDE in the next OpenSolaris build?

2007-04-24 Thread Manish Chakravarty
Hi everyone,

Could we have XFCE/KDE in the next OpenSolaris build?
Both of them work on OpenSolaris.
KDE 3.4.3 has been built using Sun Studio.

It would be great for KDE users (like me) or other XFCE users (I am sure
there must be some)

KDE is good for the power users , IMHO (I have no intention of a DE
flamewar. Just saying some people like KDE or XFCE)

Regards
Manish

PS: Can fluxbox be included as well?
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Re: [osol-discuss] Could we have XFCE/KDE in the next OpenSolaris build?

2007-04-24 Thread Dennis Clarke

On 4/24/07, Manish Chakravarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi everyone,

Could we have XFCE/KDE in the next OpenSolaris build?
Both of them work on OpenSolaris.
KDE 3.4.3 has been built using Sun Studio.

It would be great for KDE users (like me) or other XFCE users (I am sure
there must be some)

KDE is good for the power users , IMHO (I have no intention of a DE
flamewar. Just saying some people like KDE or XFCE)



XFCE 4.4.1 just hit the testing stage here :

   http://www.blastwave.org/testing/index_cron.html

see the files for xfce from a few days ago.

Feel free to download and *test* .. this will hit the unstable
repository shortly and then it can be had via pkg-get as per usual.

Dennis
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Re: [osol-discuss] Could we have XFCE/KDE in the next OpenSolaris build?

2007-04-24 Thread Darren J Moffat

Manish Chakravarty wrote:

Hi everyone,

Could we have XFCE/KDE in the next OpenSolaris build


If you wish to have an OpenSolaris related discussion on this I highly 
suggest that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the appropriate alias 
and please look at what is going on in the desktop community first:

http://opensolaris.org/os/community/desktop  or more specifically:

http://opensolaris.org/os/community/desktop/communities/kde
and
http://opensolaris.org/os/community/desktop/communities/xfce/
and
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/xfce/


Now which distribution are you talking about ?

If this is Sun's Solaris Express releases then the answer is no, not for 
the next build because that just isn't enough time (builds are done 
every two weeks).


However it could be possible to do this if you or someone else is 
willing to do the work to integrate them into Sun's Solaris 
distribution.  In the case of KDE I highly suspect his means creating a 
new consolidation which is a non trivial amount of work.


The very important thing that would need to be done is actually 
convincing Sun's marketing that they should include KDE in Solaris 
Express.  This is something that is best addressed directly with Sun not 
on this OpenSolaris alias I'm afraid.  This would be similar to 
convincing any Linux distribution to include multiple DEs - some do and 
some don't.



On the other hand if what you want is a distribution based on 
OpenSolaris that uses KDE then that already exists in the form of Belenix.


Hope this helps explain the situation and your choices.

--
Darren J Moffat
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Re: [osol-discuss] Could we have XFCE/KDE in the next OpenSolaris build?

2007-04-24 Thread Dennis Clarke

On 4/24/07, Alan Coopersmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Manish Chakravarty wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 Could we have XFCE/KDE in the next OpenSolaris build?

OpenSolaris has no builds to include them in - it's a source
base for distros to be built from, and I believe a couple of
the distros already include those.

If you're referring to the Solaris Express Community Edition
ISO's, then you will need to convince Sun to take on the burden
of building, shipping, and supporting them - which at the minimum
will require reviews by the Architecture Review Committee (ARC)
and Sun's Product management committees, which for KDE would
probably take closer to months than the 2 weeks between each build cycle.
(That is not trying to say that there's anything wrong with KDE,
  just that it's a very large body of work to review - the original
  GNOME reviews took many months too.)


or .. for the sake of just doing it you could always do a pkg-get -i
xfce and then you have XFCE 4.4.1 but with no support. That's the same
thing you get will almost all the open source GNUish non-OpenSolaris
stuff anyways.

So .. XFCE 4.4.1 will be released from Blastwave in the next few days.
I just have to make some screenshots and write a quick report .. then
its out.  William Bonnet in France did all the hard work on this and
it runs on Solaris 8 and 9 and 10 and should run just fine on the
snv_XX releases from Sun.

Dennis
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