Re: [osol-discuss] blogs.sun.com invaded by marketing ?

2007-05-09 Thread Darren J Moffat

Roland Mainz wrote:

Hi!



Today I stumbled over http://blogs.sun.com/olympus/ and
http://blogs.sun.com/samqfs/ (erm, this is not thought as offense
against the QFS or Olympus people but AFAIK group/project blogs should
be in the project-specific blogging areas at opensolaris.org and not at
blogs.sun.com) ... somehow this feels not good that products start to
have blogs (except they start to run and think without human
assistance... :-) ), e.g. people could think that the whole
blogs.sun.com is just a marketing thing and not really a personal
blogging site with real people... ;-(



Exactly what has this got to do with OpenSolaris ?

and what about blogs.sun.com/security which was originally just an RSS 
feed for Sun Security Alerts but is now also a group blog of the Sun 
security community.


Though again exactly what has this got to do with OpenSolaris ?

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Re: [osol-discuss] blogs.sun.com invaded by marketing ?

2007-05-09 Thread Tom Albers

Roland Mainz wrote:

Hi!



Today I stumbled over http://blogs.sun.com/olympus/ and
http://blogs.sun.com/samqfs/ (erm, this is not thought as offense
against the QFS or Olympus people but AFAIK group/project blogs should
be in the project-specific blogging areas at opensolaris.org and not at
blogs.sun.com) ... somehow this feels not good that products start to
have blogs (except they start to run and think without human
assistance... :-) ), e.g. people could think that the whole
blogs.sun.com is just a marketing thing and not really a personal
blogging site with real people... ;-(



Bye,
Roland



Hi,

The samqfs blog was created by a member of the SAM-QFS Engineering
team to bring more visibility to the project.  We just recently had
a project approved for OpenSolaris and are working on getting that
project page set up.  It seems that there are different opinions
on where the blog should live.  I don't have the answer for that.
I do know that the blog was created before the OpenSolaris project,
and that it is not a marketing effort.

Regards,
Tom Albers
SAM-QFS Engineering

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[osol-discuss] blogs.sun.com invaded by marketing ?

2007-05-08 Thread Roland Mainz

Hi!



Today I stumbled over http://blogs.sun.com/olympus/ and
http://blogs.sun.com/samqfs/ (erm, this is not thought as offense
against the QFS or Olympus people but AFAIK group/project blogs should
be in the project-specific blogging areas at opensolaris.org and not at
blogs.sun.com) ... somehow this feels not good that products start to
have blogs (except they start to run and think without human
assistance... :-) ), e.g. people could think that the whole
blogs.sun.com is just a marketing thing and not really a personal
blogging site with real people... ;-(



Bye,
Roland

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Re: [osol-discuss] blogs.sun.com invaded by marketing ?

2007-05-08 Thread Artem Kachitchkine



somehow this feels not good that products start to have blogs


It can be interesting to meet real people behind a product share their 
views from the other side of the fence. For instance, Microsoft's IEBlog 
is quite popular. The concept of group blogs is okay, though some 
implementation are good and some are bad. In fact, personal blogs 
sometimes sound not-so-personal as well.


-Artem.
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Re: [osol-discuss] blogs.sun.com invaded by marketing ?

2007-05-08 Thread Roland Mainz
Artem Kachitchkine wrote:
 
  somehow this feels not good that products start to have blogs
 
 It can be interesting to meet real people behind a product share their
 views from the other side of the fence.

Right... and I don't disagree with that... but somehow the idea that
products start to have their own blogs ... sounds... uhm... weired.
Until now I always associated blogs with real living people and not
something like a product which starts writing it's blog (Cyc may be
an execption but AFAIK noone tried such an experiment yet... ;-/ ).



Bye,
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Re: [osol-discuss] blogs.sun.com invaded by marketing ?

2007-05-08 Thread Artem Kachitchkine



Right... and I don't disagree with that... but somehow the idea that
products start to have their own blogs ... sounds... uhm... weired.


I think you're reading it too literally. It is common for groups in 
organizations to be named after the product they are working on. So 
perhaps when they call the blog olympus, they really mean 
group_of_people_working_on_the_olympus_product_line, it'd just be more 
typing. You can actually see names of people under each posting. But 
again, it's really the contents and style of the postings that matter. 
Nothing prevents group blog contributors from sharing personal views and 
experiences. If they start mirrorig dump press releases there, then that 
would be a problem, though not with group blogging as a whole, but with 
some people not understanding the concept of blogging.


-Artem.

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Re: [osol-discuss] blogs.sun.com invaded by marketing ?

2007-05-08 Thread Tom Haynes
So I have the problem that when I blog, I might be doing it on 
OpenSolaris, soccer coaching, science fiction, etc.


While that is good in that it shows I have interests outside of work, it 
creates many threads of

conversation which it can be hard to navigate through.

I just recently learned that for the blog feeds for projects and 
communities, you could differentiate based
on category. So, for the NFS community, I could tell it to only pull my 
NFS blog entries and not my

science fiction blog entries.

I think that some people are also confused about this and want to focus 
attention just to the specific
project. Instead of learning how to aggregate on a web page or to 
redistribute a feed (like planet.opensolaris.org),

they focus in on a group blog.

I wouldn't call this organized marketing, I'd liken it more to 
grassroots or guerrilla marketing. The difference
being that it isn't the marketing department driving some agenda, it is 
simply a development group pushing
awareness of their own work on the world. I'd also argue that most 
corporate based blogging falls under this
category. And most open source developers are probably just as proud to 
get their products out in the open.

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