[osol-discuss] versioning of opensolaris
I have several questions to understand how versioning of opensolaris works. 1. Are version numbers of Opensolaris and version number of Solaris line synchronized, or separate ? 2. Where can I see timeline of releases, by recent years, of Opensolaris and of Solaris, with version numbers ? 3. Are version number of the kernels separate from version numbers of distros, or same ? Are version number of Opensolaris kernels synchronized with version numbers of SOlaris kernels, or separate ? 4. Is whole solaris kernel opensourced, or only parts of kernel ? Thanks Viki This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] versioning of opensolaris
I have several questions to understand how versioning of opensolaris works. 1. Are version numbers of Opensolaris and version number of Solaris line synchronized, or separate ? 2. Where can I see timeline of releases, by recent years, of Opensolaris and of Solaris, with version numbers ? http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/roadmap/ 3. Are version number of the kernels separate from version numbers of distros, or same ? Are version number of Opensolaris kernels synchronized with version numbers of SOlaris kernels, or separate ? Right now I think that the builds identify the kernel version. About Major versions ... the 1 is going out this month or the next I think. 4. Is whole solaris kernel opensourced, or only parts of kernel ? http://cvs.opensolaris.org/source/ Thanks Viki This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] versioning of opensolaris
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/roadmap/ This page does not mention a single version number. How does it compare with Linux where every kernel version has a version number ? Opensolaris versions are not numbered ? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] versioning of opensolaris
Victoria Muntean writes: I have several questions to understand how versioning of opensolaris works. Unfortunately, the question you're asking doesn't really have a clear answer. (It seems you're basing your questions on the Linux kernel numbering scheme and, no, we don't do things quite that way.) Solaris has had two Major releases: those were the very first SunOS release decades ago, which was BSD-based, and the Solaris 2.0 SVr4-based release. Since 2.0 (which was a long time ago as well; circa 1992), we've had only Minor releases. Even Solaris 10 is technically a Minor (compatible) release. The current bits under development on opensolaris.org are code-named Nevada, and the current rules for integration (into OS-Net, the core of the operating system) specify that projects must have Minor release binding -- meaning compatible changes. The source code could be compiled to produce a Solaris 11 (another Minor release) at any time, but I know of no current plans to do so. (And if I did, this probably wouldn't be the right venue to talk about it anyway.) The key issue, though, that makes your questions unanswerable is that versioning is up to *distributors*. Those who create distributions based on OpenSolaris are free to choose content (and create local changes as well) that represent a range of possible release bindings and thus completely different numbering schemes. Nobody in OpenSolaris really has the power to force a distributor into one version numbering scheme or another. Or any at all. That includes the uname output, which distributors may (and probably should) change to suit local tastes. The default output says 5.11, but since that's not part of any released Sun product[1], that may well be untrue. 1. Are version numbers of Opensolaris and version number of Solaris line synchronized, or separate ? Neither. There's currently no version numbering (other than Mercurial changeset numbers) going on with OpenSolaris. 2. Where can I see timeline of releases, by recent years, of Opensolaris and of Solaris, with version numbers ? You can't see any for OpenSolaris, but for Solaris, google finds many references. A good one is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solaris_Operating_System Some of the distributions (such as Sun's Solaris Express Community Edition) have a build number that's based on the biweekly builds done by the Sun release engineers. Some distributions seem to follow that build numbering scheme, but nobody really compels any distributor to use it. For the biweekly schedule used in OS-Net, see: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/on/schedule/ 3. Are version number of the kernels separate from version numbers of distros, or same ? Are version number of Opensolaris kernels synchronized with version numbers of SOlaris kernels, or separate ? 4. Is whole solaris kernel opensourced, or only parts of kernel ? See: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/roadmap/conslist/ There are only a very few things (such as CDE) that aren't available due to licensing problems. (And, no, we generally can't do anything about those few unavailable parts. Complaining upstream would be more productive. :-) [1] There are murky areas here, such as OpenSolaris Developer Preview, that I don't understand. -- James Carlson, Solaris Networking [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems / 35 Network Drive71.232W Vox +1 781 442 2084 MS UBUR02-212 / Burlington MA 01803-2757 42.496N Fax +1 781 442 1677 ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] versioning of opensolaris
Victoria Muntean wrote: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/roadmap/ This page does not mention a single version number. This is not a roadmap of binary distribution releases. This was originally a roadmap outlining when pieces of Solaris and other processes and tools would be open sourced and available on opensolaris.org. This roadmap needs an overhaul but it will still be a roadmap about the program, not about the binary distributions. Bonnie How does it compare with Linux where every kernel version has a version number ? Opensolaris versions are not numbered ? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] versioning of opensolaris
Hi 1. Are version numbers of Opensolaris and version number of Solaris line synchronized, or separate ? No. Both are separate projects. Think Fedora and RHEL. 2. Where can I see timeline of releases, by recent years, of OpenSolaris and of Solaris, with version numbers ? For Solaris, you can check on Wikipedia. For OpenSolaris, checkout the timeline page, but there are several distributions and you'd only find out SXCE, SXDE and Indiana at opensolaris.org. Rest have their own websites. 3. Are version number of the kernels separate from version numbers of distros, or same ? Are version number of Opensolaris kernels synchronized with version numbers of SOlaris kernels, or separate ? There are no separate version numbers. Solaris/OpenSolaris are similar in this regard to *BSD. The whole thing is kernel + userland == distro. The distribution has build/version numbers. Individual components have revision numbers (changelog#). 4. Is whole solaris kernel opensourced, or only parts of kernel ? Kernel can't be talked in isolation when talking about Solaris/OpenSolaris. All the kernel bits are opensource, but some userland tools (eg. CDE) and other stuff too old/too encumbered isn't yet (and probably won't - they'd be removed/rewritten/replaced). Basically: Solaris : OpenSolaris :: RHEL : Fedora And OpenSolaris system is like *BSD system where you have the whole thing which comprises of kernel AND userland and called as an OS. I hope I'm correct in this explanation. - Akhilesh This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
